Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881 - conundrum

2008-08-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 23:10 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > All the hacker needs to do, before rooting the system, is to run my cronjobs > and > save the output, and then change the cronjobs to email me these 'all clear' > reports instead. The reports don't even have dates or times that require > u

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881 - conundrum

2008-08-26 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/8/27 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What I could recommend is to run only the necessary services, and if > possible restrict the IPs allowed to connect to them, keep the system > updated with security fixes, make frequent backups, and other obvious > things that we all already kno

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881 - conundrum

2008-08-26 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Sam Kuper wrote: > 2) Assuming your server is hosted with VPSVille, Slicehost or some > other hosting company that doesn't give you physical access but does > have a facility for reinstalling your OS on demand, you could, in the > following order: > > - Back up your data from it locally; > - Prepar

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881 - conundrum

2008-08-26 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/8/26 Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The more I think about it, the more I believe some sharp hacker out there > could easily have fooled me for months. > > Any suggestions now? 1) Be slightly less paranoid :) 2) Assuming your server is hosted with VPSVille, Slicehost or some other hosting

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881 - conundrum

2008-08-26 Thread Adam Hardy
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on 26/08/08 13:45, wrote: Adam Hardy escreveu: After-the-attack identification of a rootkit attack, it seems, can always be compromised if there is no safe read-only hash or encryption of the known-good system binaries. Unfortunately, I think that if you do not have physi

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881 - conundrum

2008-08-26 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Adam Hardy escreveu: After the attack, I quickly realized that I have no definitive way of deciding if my system was rooted or not, and so I installed rkhunter. This provides a simple hash-based mechanism to create an image of the clean system (although I can't actually do that with the Etch ve

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881 - conundrum

2008-08-26 Thread Adam Hardy
Osamu Aoki on 25/08/08 16:41, wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:51:56PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Adam Hardy on 13/08/08 10:27, wrote: Martin on 12/08/08 16:34, wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-25 Thread Adam Hardy
Osamu Aoki on 25/08/08 16:41, wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:51:56PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Adam Hardy on 13/08/08 10:27, wrote: apt-cache show tripwire Description: file and directory integrity checker Tripwire is a tool that aids system administrators and users in monitoring a designated

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-25 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:51:56PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Adam Hardy on 13/08/08 10:27, wrote: >> Martin on 12/08/08 16:34, wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with, especially if stuff >>>

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 13/08/08 10:27, wrote: Martin on 12/08/08 16:34, wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with, especially if stuff like rkhunter's not much better? tripwire maybe? apt-cache show tripwire Descri

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-14 Thread David Barrett
Adam Hardy wrote: David Barrett on 13/08/08 20:22, wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: Martin on 12/08/08 16:34, wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with, especially if stuff like rkhunter's not much better? [snip]

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-14 Thread Adam Hardy
David Barrett on 13/08/08 20:22, wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: Martin on 12/08/08 16:34, wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with, especially if stuff like rkhunter's not much better? [snip] One script I use

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-13 Thread David Barrett
Adam Hardy wrote: Martin on 12/08/08 16:34, wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with, especially if stuff like rkhunter's not much better? tripwire maybe? apt-cache show tripwire Description: file and di

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-13 Thread Adam Hardy
Martin on 12/08/08 16:34, wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with, especially if stuff like rkhunter's not much better? tripwire maybe? apt-cache show tripwire Description: file and directory integrity ch

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-12 Thread Martin
Hi, On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The question is, what do I replace chkrootkit with, especially if stuff like > rkhunter's not much better? tripwire maybe? apt-cache show tripwire Description: file and directory integrity checker Tripwire is a tool th

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-12 Thread Adam Hardy
s. keeling on 06/08/08 03:55, wrote: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thomas Preud'homme wrote: I don't think it's that important. chkrootkit seems a little hazardous=20 since there was a bug about chkrootkit killing a random process (in=20 fact one of its test was sending a signal to process 12

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 13:19 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > filtered != open > >Filtered means that a firewall, filter, >or other network obstacle is blocking the port so that Nmap cannot > tell whether >it is open or closed. -- man nmap I wish nmap would call "filtered" by a

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 14:52 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Yes, you are right, and I have been too slack to get around to changing it. I > am > looking at installing tripwire (after a fresh install) to be able to check up > what is going on after the fact. If you have more than one machine, you mi

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-06 Thread s. keeling
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thomas Preud'homme wrote: > > I don't think it's that important. chkrootkit seems a little hazardous=20 > > since there was a bug about chkrootkit killing a random process (in=20 > > fact one of its test was sending a signal to process 12345, this bug=20 > > has

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Hardy wrote: > Not shown: 65529 closed ports > PORT STATE SERVICE > 22/tcpopen ssh > 25/tcpopen smtp > 80/tcpopen http > 443/tcp open https > 3306/tcp open mysql > 12121/tcp open unknown > > > But when I run nmap from my home machine to scan it remotely, I see these

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Preud'homme wrote: > I don't think it's that important. chkrootkit seems a little hazardous > since there was a bug about chkrootkit killing a random process (in > fact one of its test was sending a signal to process 12345, this bug > has been corrected). That anyone could code such a th

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 04/08/08 14:50, wrote: thveillon.debian on 04/08/08 13:48, wrote: Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: [...snip] I talked to the support at the hosting company and they looked at the system and said they couldn't see anything wrong with it - but they can re-image it for me which

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Monday 04 August 2008, Adam Hardy wrote : > thveillon.debian on 04/08/08 13:48, wrote: > Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: > > > > [...snip] > > > I talked to the support at the hosting company and they looked > at the system and said they couldn't see anything wrong with it > >>>

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Adam Hardy
Thomas Preud'homme on 04/08/08 13:39, wrote: Monday 04 August 2008, Adam Hardy wrote : Thomas Preud'homme on 04/08/08 11:48, wrote: Le lundi 4 août 2008, Adam Hardy a écrit : Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: My webserver system is actually a UML slice of a system at memset.co.uk and all i

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Adam Hardy
thveillon.debian on 04/08/08 13:48, wrote: Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: [...snip] I talked to the support at the hosting company and they looked at the system and said they couldn't see anything wrong with it - but they can re-image it for me which normally costs a fee. Is it worth re-

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread thveillon.debian
Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: [...snip] I talked to the support at the hosting company and they looked at the system and said they couldn't see anything wrong with it - but they can re-image it for me which normally costs a fee. Is it worth re-imaging my system and re-installing everythi

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Monday 04 August 2008, Adam Hardy wrote : > Thomas Preud'homme on 04/08/08 11:48, wrote: > > Le lundi 4 août 2008, Adam Hardy a écrit : > >> Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: > >>> My webserver system is actually a UML slice of a system at > >>> memset.co.uk and all it does is run Apache Tomcat

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Adam Hardy
Thomas Preud'homme on 04/08/08 11:48, wrote: Le lundi 4 août 2008, Adam Hardy a écrit : Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: My webserver system is actually a UML slice of a system at memset.co.uk and all it does is run Apache Tomcat and sshd and the stuff from memset - I thought it was pretty

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le lundi 4 août 2008, Adam Hardy a écrit : > Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: > > My webserver system is actually a UML slice of a system at > > memset.co.uk and all it does is run Apache Tomcat and sshd and the > > stuff from memset - I thought it was pretty safe until I came back > > today an

Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-04 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 03/08/08 14:13, wrote: My webserver system is actually a UML slice of a system at memset.co.uk and all it does is run Apache Tomcat and sshd and the stuff from memset - I thought it was pretty safe until I came back today and found my nightly email report from chkrootkit said: T

chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-03 Thread Adam Hardy
My webserver system is actually a UML slice of a system at memset.co.uk and all it does is run Apache Tomcat and sshd and the stuff from memset - I thought it was pretty safe until I came back today and found my nightly email report from chkrootkit said: The following suspicious files and dire