Andy Smith wrote:
>> Except for people aging and dying I didn't understand any
>> of this post ...
>
> I'm happy to explain any part of it that you were not able
> to understand, but you'll have to be more specific.
No, I understand now, as a blueprint for a human to read as
well, not just
Hello,
On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 02:46:49AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Except for people aging and dying I didn't understand any of
> this post ...
I'm happy to explain any part of it that you were not able to
understand, but you'll have to be more specific.
I must have been very unclear indeed
Andy Smith wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:05:28AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > For a single user's machine, it's unlikely to be rewarding
> > except intellectually.
[good arguments snipped]
> There have honestly been times in my life where I've had to look at
> something set up by someone
Andy Smith wrote:
>> For a single user's machine, it's unlikely to be rewarding
>> except intellectually.
>
> It is however a great way to document a system for those
> that don't get around to making free text notes.
> The language of the configuration management tool both does
> the setup and
Dan Ritter wrote:
> That's just knowing what packages you want to install.
What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know?
>>>
>>> Examples [...]
>>
>> Okay, right, no here we're only concerned with the state of
>> the OS in terms of packages that are installed so that they
Hello,
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:05:28AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> For a single user's machine, it's unlikely to be rewarding
> except intellectually.
It is however a great way to document a system for those that don't
get around to making free text notes. The language of the
configuration
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> >>> That's just knowing what packages you want to install.
> >>
> >> What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know?
> >
> > Examples:
>
> Okay, right, no here we're only concerned with the state of
> the OS in terms of packages that are
Dan Ritter wrote:
>>> That's just knowing what packages you want to install.
>>
>> What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know?
>
> Examples:
>
> - you have installed a load balancer; it needs
> a configuration file to work.
>
> - you have installed bind or unbound to provide DNS,
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > That's just knowing what packages you want to install.
>
> What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know?
Examples:
- you have installed a load balancer; it needs a configuration
file to work.
- you have installed bind or unbound to
Dan Ritter wrote:
> That's just knowing what packages you want to install.
What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know?
> If that's all you want, you can use dpkg --set-selections
> and a text list.
What about using the interactive commands?
sudo apt-get -qq update
sudo apt-get
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> >>> You can do it with puppet, chef, ansible, salt...
> >>>
> >>> You can go further into it with guix and nix.
> >>>
> >>> It can be quite a lot of work
> >>
> >> Okay, but why so, since it looks like the task to be done
> >> is just a config file
IL Ka wrote:
> With a non-interactive frontend you can install all packages
> and configure them with one script.
Right, and I happen to know exactly what I want, I want - from
the repos, with the default configuration - if by
configuration you mean install options - these programs
feh
mpv
>
>
> Noninteractive is the word! Thank you.
>
>
This is a technical term covered by debconf(7) :)
https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/debconf-doc/debconf.7.en.html
The idea is covered here:
https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/debconf-doc/debconf-devel.7.en.html
With a non-interactive
Dan Ritter wrote:
>>> You can do it with puppet, chef, ansible, salt...
>>>
>>> You can go further into it with guix and nix.
>>>
>>> It can be quite a lot of work
>>
>> Okay, but why so, since it looks like the task to be done
>> is just a config file that's iterated by a script and
>> boiled
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > You can do it with puppet, chef, ansible, salt...
> >
> > You can go further into it with guix and nix.
> >
> > It can be quite a lot of work
>
> Okay, but why so, since it looks like the task to be done is
> just a config file that's iterated by a
IL Ka wrote:
> You are probably looking for unattended installation and
> configuration using "noninteractive" dbconf frontend.
> https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/debconf-doc/debconf.7.en.html#Unattended_Package_Installation
Noninteractive is the word! Thank you.
But obviously people can
Mike Kupfer wrote:
> I have half of that, sort of. A static file has 1 package
> name per line, and each line has a usage tag like "base",
> "dev", or "emacs-build", and distro tags, like "deb10" or
> "f25". I run a script, telling it the usage and distro, and
> it spits out a list of packages. I
Dan Ritter wrote:
> You can do it with puppet, chef, ansible, salt...
>
> You can go further into it with guix and nix.
>
> It can be quite a lot of work
Okay, but why so, since it looks like the task to be done is
just a config file that's iterated by a script and boiled down
to suitable
You are probably looking for unattended installation and
configuration using "noninteractive" dbconf frontend.
https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/debconf-doc/debconf.7.en.html#Unattended_Package_Installation
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:10 AM Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Have a look at this blog post
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Have a look at this blog post and program:
>
> Managing OpenBSD installed packages declaratively
>
> https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-05-05-openbsd-declarative-packages-with-pkgset.html
>
> That's sure one idea, to have a config file (that's the
> "declarative"
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 11:10 PM Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Have a look at this blog post and program:
>
> Managing OpenBSD installed packages declaratively
>
> https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-05-05-openbsd-declarative-packages-with-pkgset.html
>
> That's sure one idea, to have a config file
Mike Kupfer wrote:
>> Have a look at this blog post and program:
>>
>> Managing OpenBSD installed packages declaratively
>>
>> https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-05-05-openbsd-declarative-packages-with-pkgset.html
>>
>> [...] Anyone has that for Debian and Debian-like systems?
>
> I have
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Have a look at this blog post and program:
>
> Managing OpenBSD installed packages declaratively
>
> https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-05-05-openbsd-declarative-packages-with-pkgset.html
[...]
> Anyone has that for Debian and Debian-like systems?
I have half of that,
> Anyone has that for Debian and Debian-like systems?
Or, to be exact, systems that use APT.
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
Have a look at this blog post and program:
Managing OpenBSD installed packages declaratively
https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-05-05-openbsd-declarative-packages-with-pkgset.html
That's sure one idea, to have a config file (that's the
"declarative" part) and then a script that converts
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