Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-04 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 06:17:12PM -0400, Stephen R Laniel wrote: Anyway, the point is that you really *shouldn't* trust the root user if you don't have to. And if you can encrypt your filesystem, you should. You do have to trust the entity that provides your service, and its agents, at least

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-04 Thread Steve Lamb
Shaun Lipscombe wrote: ... and I should have said.. and then use ~/dominik as your ~. Don'tcha mean I should have said, chmod 700 ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} pwd /home/grey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} ls -ld /home/grey drwxr-xr-x 59 grey grey 2856 2005-07-04 03:51 /home/grey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} chmod

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-04 Thread privacy.at Anonymous Remailer
You do have to trust the entity that provides your service, and its agents, at least to some extent. For example, an encrpyted filesystem does you no good if you are using the hardware provided by the hosting company which can insert keyloggers and take copies of the private keys which

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-04 Thread Douglas Ward
On Sunday 03 July 2005 03:16, Dominik Margraf wrote: Hello! Currently, the default setting is that root can see and modify anything, including the contents of the users' folders, moreover, users can also see the contents of other users' folders by default. These pose a significant

encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Dominik Margraf
Hello! Currently, the default setting is that root can see and modify anything, including the contents of the users' folders, moreover, users can also see the contents of other users' folders by default. These pose a significant confidentiality and security risk. Therefore is there any way to

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Lee Braiden
On Sunday 03 Jul 2005 08:16, Dominik Margraf wrote: Currently, the default setting is that root can see and modify anything, including the contents of the users' folders, moreover, users can also see the contents of other users' folders by default. These pose a significant confidentiality and

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Lee Braiden wrote: root needs to be responsible, trustworthy, and trusted. Since root can do virtually anything, it makes no sense to *try* to hide things from him/her. The best you can do is to obscure things, so that root won't accidentally find them out without trying to. If you don't

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Lee Braiden
On Sunday 03 Jul 2005 09:29, Steve Lamb wrote: Lee Braiden wrote: root needs to be responsible, trustworthy, and trusted. Since root can do virtually anything, it makes no sense to *try* to hide things from him/her. The best you can do is to obscure things, so that root won't

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Lee Braiden wrote: I'm not sure what you're getting at. The alternative of not having anyone who is trusted? Yup. Imagine trying to install something when even root cannot write to the install directories. That's what NT was like without admin privies on any user. -- Steve

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Adam Fabian
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 07:16:57PM +1200, Dominik Margraf wrote: Therefore is there any way to encrypt all users' folders and making the computer to set this up by default when a new user is generated? So that even the root can't see the contents of the users' folders. If you set up

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Greg Madden
On Saturday 02 July 2005 11:16 pm, Dominik Margraf wrote: Hello! Currently, the default setting is that root can see and modify anything, including the contents of the users' folders, moreover, users can also see the contents of other users' folders by default. These pose a significant

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 02:03:39PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: On Saturday 02 July 2005 11:16 pm, Dominik Margraf wrote: Currently, the default setting is that root can see and modify [snip] The default permission for the first user (greg) on a new install on my Sarge box is: 'drwxr-xr-- 70

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:25:21AM -0500, Adam Fabian wrote: The short version is that you must trust the root user, period That's nice as a general guideline, but most of the time you have no reason to trust *or* distrust the root user. Most people's sysadmins are through big corporations like

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Saverio Trioni
As with Windows NT security, it is false that no one can read the data on the disk. If you boot with a proper rescue CD that can read NTFS, then you can read everything, regardless of permission. In Mac OS X you have the option to encrypt home directories, but there is the possibility to

Re: encrypting the users' folders

2005-07-03 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 06:17:12PM -0400, Stephen R Laniel wrote: On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:25:21AM -0500, Adam Fabian wrote: The short version is that you must trust the root user, period [snip] Anyway, the point is that you really *shouldn't* trust the root user if you don't have to. And