Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 07.05.21 um 02:12 schrieb Michael Biebl: exim4 is unfortunately still SysV-only and doesn't ship a native systemd .service file. So the correct command is "update-rc.d exim4 disable" For the curious: you can run "systemctl disable exim4" as well. This will just run the above command though

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-06 Thread Michael Biebl
exim4 is unfortunately still SysV-only and doesn't ship a native systemd .service file. So the correct command is "update-rc.d exim4 disable" "update-rc.d exim4 remove" will remove the symlinks in /etc/rc?.d/ but on the next package update, they will be recreated. So if you want to make this a

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 05:27:13PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 05 mai 21, 07:46:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > You're using a package that has not yet been converted to systemd. It's > > still using an old init.d script, and systemd is performing a conversion > > on the fly. > > > >

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 05 mai 21, 07:46:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > You're using a package that has not yet been converted to systemd. It's > still using an old init.d script, and systemd is performing a conversion > on the fly. > > The basic start and stop subcommands will work fine, but disable may > not

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 12:07:29PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 2021 18:44:12 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Could you kindly tell us what "systemctl status exim4.service" says > > on this buster machine of yours? Perhaps your command is turning up > > one of the automatically

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Joe
On Tue, 4 May 2021 18:44:12 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:14:45PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > ...and buster. It's exim4.service as stated by: > > systemctl --type=service | grep exim > > According to packages.debian.org[1] there is no such file in any > package. > > Of

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:14:45PM +0100, Joe wrote: > ...and buster. It's exim4.service as stated by: > systemctl --type=service | grep exim According to packages.debian.org[1] there is no such file in any package. Of course, that's not proof of the nonexistence of such a file, because it

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Joe
On Tue, 4 May 2021 18:27:57 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 2021 13:15:51 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:03:43AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > > That was the question, Greg: > > > > > > "Searching for exim in > > >

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 01:46:29PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > Try: > > man update-rc.d > man 8 update-rc.d > Please stop top-posting, and please reply to the list. > Greg Wooledge writes: > > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 01:27:56PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > > As per the man page

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 01:27:56PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > As per the man page for System V init, to disable launching of exim: > > update-rc.d -f exim remove What man page is this allegedly from, exactly?

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread John Conover
For the archives, this issue was created by looking for penetration vulnerabilities during the boot of a Debian Buster machine using tcpdump(1) on a machine between Buster, and the it's Internet facing router. There was exim traffic when exim boots, but exim was SUPPOSED to be disabled during

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread john doe
On 5/4/2021 7:28 PM, Erwan David wrote: Le 04/05/2021 à 19:26, Joe a écrit : On Tue, 4 May 2021 10:03:43 -0700 cono...@rahul.net (John Conover) wrote: Greg Wooledge writes: On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:17:38AM -0700, John Conover wrote: Searching for exim in

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:27:17AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > Thanks, Greg. "update-rc.d -f exim remove" is the command for > /etc/init.d. But its broken. You forgot to reply to the list. Nobody with any sense uses update-rc.d for system admin work. It's there for Debian packages to use,

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Erwan David
Le 04/05/2021 à 19:26, Joe a écrit : > On Tue, 4 May 2021 10:03:43 -0700 > cono...@rahul.net (John Conover) wrote: > >> Greg Wooledge writes: >>> On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:17:38AM -0700, John Conover wrote: Searching for exim in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/* and

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Joe
On Tue, 4 May 2021 13:15:51 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:03:43AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > That was the question, Greg: > > > > "Searching for exim in > > /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/* and > > /lib/systemd/system/* yields nothing." > >

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Joe
On Tue, 4 May 2021 10:03:43 -0700 cono...@rahul.net (John Conover) wrote: > Greg Wooledge writes: > > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:17:38AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > > Searching for exim in > > > /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/* and > > > /lib/systemd/system/* yields nothing. > >

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:03:43AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > That was the question, Greg: > > "Searching for exim in > /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/* and > /lib/systemd/system/* yields nothing." > > so, it wasn't there. Which service?, (or how to find out?) So... I

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread John Conover
Greg Wooledge writes: > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:17:38AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > Searching for exim in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/* > > and /lib/systemd/system/* yields nothing. > > > > How do I stop exim from launching across boots? > > Presumably there is a systemd

Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:17:38AM -0700, John Conover wrote: > Searching for exim in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/* > and /lib/systemd/system/* yields nothing. > > How do I stop exim from launching across boots? Presumably there is a systemd service, which is enabled. You will

exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-04 Thread John Conover
I use either exim or another MTA. When I want to use the other MTA, "update-rc.d -f exim remove" does not remove exim from "ps eax" after today's exim update. Searching for exim in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/* and /lib/systemd/system/* yields nothing. How do I stop exim from