Re: USB-OTG hardware 5Volt parallel

2020-03-14 Thread Richard Lucassen
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 13:59:18 +0100 Geert Stappers wrote: > Een developmentboard met 5Volt voeding op eigen connector, > dat ook een USB-OTG connector met 5Volt heeft, > durf ik niet beide tegelijk aansluiten. > > Hoe voorbij mijn vrees te komen? > > Want ik moet _niet_ hebben dat er

USB-OTG hardware 5Volt parallel

2020-03-14 Thread Geert Stappers
Hoi, Voor oude 2 liter motor te starten heb ik een zware startaccu nodig. Maar die heb ik niet, wel twee lichtere accus en veel koperdraad. Met het parallel schakelen van de twee beschikbare accus krijg ik wel de benodigde startstroom. Merk op dat de twee accus elkaar op een

Re: Hardware for Debian

2020-03-11 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On 2/12/20, Malcolm Beeson-Earwicker wrote: > I've been a Debian user for about twenty years now, and have found that > I have to run more and more of my machines under windo$e because the > latest versions of Debian just fail, I imagine due to all this > UEFI-rubbish. Does anyone know of a

Re: Hardware for Debian

2020-02-12 Thread Felix Miata
Malcolm Beeson-Earwicker composed on 2020-02-12 :26 (UTC+0100): > I've been a Debian user for about twenty years now, and have found that > I have to run more and more of my machines under windo$e because the > latest versions of Debian just fail, Fail at what point? > I imagine due to all this

Re: Hardware for Debian

2020-02-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 February 2020 06:26:17 Malcolm Beeson-Earwicker wrote: > I've been a Debian user for about twenty years now, and have found > that I have to run more and more of my machines under windo$e because > the latest versions of Debian just fail, I imagine due to all this > UEFI-rubbish.

Re: Hardware for Debian

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Malcolm Beeson-Earwicker wrote: > I've been a Debian user for about twenty years now, and have found that > I have to run more and more of my machines under windo$e because the > latest versions of Debian just fail, I imagine due to all this > UEFI-rubbish. Does anyone know of a motherboard that

Re: Hardware for Debian

2020-02-12 Thread hdv@gmail
anyone know of > a > motherboard that will run Debian please? Last month I've replace my old system with new hardware. It has a ASUS PRO WS X570-ACE mobo with a AMD Ryzen 9 3950X CPU in it. I had to tweak the BIOS/UEFI a bit to get it to boot from NVME RAM. The other thing was that De

Re: Hardware for Debian

2020-02-12 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
I have a MSI B150M PRO-VDH motherboard. Never had any problem booting Linux on it. It can even disable UEFI stuff. Good luck.

Re: Hardware for Debian

2020-02-12 Thread Andrea Borgia
I have an ASRock B450M-HDV (for AMD Ryzen) and it works. with UEFI boot, too. Running "testing" because of the amdgpu driver. Il giorno mer 12 feb 2020 alle ore 13:15 Malcolm Beeson-Earwicker < malc...@emale.eu> ha scritto: > I've been a Debian user for about twenty years now, and have found

Hardware for Debian

2020-02-12 Thread Malcolm Beeson-Earwicker
I've been a Debian user for about twenty years now, and have found that I have to run more and more of my machines under windo$e because the latest versions of Debian just fail, I imagine due to all this UEFI-rubbish. Does anyone know of a motherboard that will run Debian please? I have one new

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-31 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 05:05:07PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > > > > > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > > > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its contents to > > > "debian-arm-devel", and

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 23:05:07) > On Monday 30 December 2019 16:49:14 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > > > > > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > > > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 December 2019 16:49:14 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > > > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its contents to > > "debian-arm-devel", and instituting a new

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its contents to > "debian-arm-devel", and instituting a new "debian-arm-users" list. Ahhh. We have struggled for ages in Debian

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
e had success with ARM specific questions on debian-arm, that is for things that are *really* ARM specific, like the support for certain hardware in u-boot, Linux and Xorg, etc.. Anything that is the same on all architectures (systemd, ssh, etc.) is much better suited on debian-user because: 1.

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
ut > > > > > > subjectwise it wanders badly but I'd like to show one full > > > > > > chain of recent events: > > > > > > > > > > [ Raspbian details snipped ] > > > > > > > > > > How do Debian w

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
nt > > > > > events: > > > > > > > > [ Raspbian details snipped ] > > > > > > > > How do Debian with linux-image-rt-* perform on that hardware? > > > > > > > > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-imag

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
th building a pre-empt-rt kernel for armhf, > > > > which allows linuxcnc to run in uspace. But subjectwise it > > > > wanders badly but I'd like to show one full chain of recent > > > > events: > > > > > > [ Raspbian details snipp

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
nc to run in uspace. But subjectwise it wanders > > > badly but I'd like to show one full chain of recent events: > > > > [ Raspbian details snipped ] > > > > How do Debian with linux-image-rt-* perform on that hardware? > > > > https://packages.debian.o

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
e to show one full chain of recent events: > > [ Raspbian details snipped ] > > How do Debian with linux-image-rt-* perform on that hardware? > > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-rt > I can't directly answer that, Jonas, as I shifted my attention to rasp

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ith linux-image-rt-* perform on that hardware? https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-rt - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-10, Richard Hector wrote: > > Similarly, one of our local fuel stations has (or had) vouchers that say > things like '10c per litre off every litre of fuel' - which also quickly > gets into trouble if taken literally :-) You mean that would mean 20c off the second litre and 30c off

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-11 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-10 23:44, Richard Hector wrote: On 11/08/19 3:06 AM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 10 Aug 2019 at 21:19:31 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: Richard Hector wrote: Sorry, this usage grates with me. $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread Richard Hector
On 11/08/19 3:06 AM, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 10 Aug 2019 at 21:19:31 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: >> On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: >>> Richard Hector wrote: >>> Sorry, this usage grates with me. $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread David Wright
On Sat 10 Aug 2019 at 21:19:31 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: > > Richard Hector wrote: > > > >> > >> Sorry, this usage grates with me. > >> > >> $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price > >> > >> $x times $price means multiply $price

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread Richard Hector
On 10/08/19 9:10 PM, deloptes wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: > >> >> Sorry, this usage grates with me. >> >> $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price >> >> $x times $price means multiply $price by $x >> >> so "2 times cheaper (than $450)" is: >> >> $450 - (2 x $450) =

Re: OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread deloptes
Richard Hector wrote: > > Sorry, this usage grates with me. > > $amount cheaper that $price means subtract $amount from $price > > $x times $price means multiply $price by $x > > so "2 times cheaper (than $450)" is: > > $450 - (2 x $450) = -$450. so what multiplied by 2 gives 450? 450

OT "x times cheaper", was: Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-10 Thread Richard Hector
On 10/08/19 6:20 AM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 01:16:49PM -0400, Celejar wrote: >> When you say five times cheaper, I gather you're talking about the >> prices for used units, in which case it's not really an >> apples-to-apples comparison. At least when I checked, the new units on >>

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Steven Mainor
I bought a turris omnia router recently and so far it has worked out pretty well. -- Steven Mainor On August 9, 2019 12:59:34 PM EDT, Reco wrote: >On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: >> John Hasler wrote: >> >> > Steven Mainor writes: >> > > It looks like there are

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread Bob Crochelt
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, at 10:14, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 09 August 2019 07:59:07 Bob Crochelt wrote: > > > Gene, > > I’m scheduled for some heart rewiring myself. Good luck to the both of > > us! Bob Crochelt > > My heart guy is out of the country till around Sept 1. So I'm takeing an >

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Reco
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 01:16:49PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 19:59:34 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > ... > > > > This one was very appealing > > >

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread John Hasler
$430 is way above my budget. "Linksys" and "Wireless" are both negatives. Maybe, if I could get it for $10 at a yard sale... -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 19:59:34 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: ... > > This one was very appealing > >

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Reco
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > > Steven Mainor writes: > > > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. > > > > Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I > > think I'll order one today. The

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread deloptes
John Hasler wrote: > Steven Mainor writes: > > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. > > Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I > think I'll order one today. The ancient Dell I'm now using as a > router/firewall is getting flaky. I've

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 August 2019 07:59:07 Bob Crochelt wrote: > Gene, > I’m scheduled for some heart rewiring myself. Good luck to the both of > us! Bob Crochelt My heart guy is out of the country till around Sept 1. So I'm takeing an extra half a 7.5gr warfarin pill a day to ward off another

Re: [OT] Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread Étienne Mollier
tomás, on 2019-08-09: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 12:24:41PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: [...] > >My message was actually addressed to anyone > > on the list, especially some writers with stronger language than > > usual, but I can't recall you being part of this set. Yes, I

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread John Hasler
Steven Mainor writes: > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I think I'll order one today. The ancient Dell I'm now using as a router/firewall is getting flaky. I've wanted to replace it some time

Re: [OT] Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 12:24:41PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: [...] > Good morning tomás, > > Sincere apologies if you took it personally, No worries, I didn't. Not as an offense, by the least. No need to apoligize. > I did not intend to >

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread Bob Crochelt
, on a T1, with a good UPS, well backed up, and with > > clones of hardware and software near at hand. And running Debian. > > > > Under those conditions, they do just fine. > > So does a 3+, running realtime stretch. Using a nearly 50 mhz spi > interface, its running 1

Re: [OT] Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread Étienne Mollier
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:12:22AM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: > > tomás, on 2019-08-09: > > > (Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment, > > > but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-) > > > > Oh my ${DEITY}, once you see it, you cannot "un-see" it... > > > >

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-09 Thread Igor Cicimov
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 3:35 PM Steven Mainor wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus > on > security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 > people at most. > > My requirements are: > > A server setup that can be

Re: [OT] Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:12:22AM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: > tomás, on 2019-08-09: > > (Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment, > > but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-) > > Oh my ${DEITY}, once you see it, you cannot "un-see" it... > > It sounds

Re: [OT] Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread Étienne Mollier
tomás, on 2019-08-09: > (Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment, > but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-) Oh my ${DEITY}, once you see it, you cannot "un-see" it... It sounds like a good opportunity to recall the code of conduct of the list; in addition to

[OT] Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread tomas
[...] > No, > I am helping the OP. As one wise man said once: from shit you can make only > shit [...] This wise man didn't know about agriculture, then. (Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment, but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-) Nevermind, cheers --

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 08 August 2019 18:01:01 ghe wrote: > On 8/8/19 4:39 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > I also hear stories about people, using Raspberry Pi Systems as > > Servers. > > At least a 3+, on a T1, with a good UPS, well backed up, and with > clones of hardware a

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-09 Thread ghe
On 8/8/19 4:39 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: > I also hear stories about people, using Raspberry Pi Systems as Servers. At least a 3+, on a T1, with a good UPS, well backed up, and with clones of hardware and software near at hand. And running Debian. Under those conditions, they do just f

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Steven Mainor
It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now. -- Steven Mainor On August 8, 2019 11:16:44 PM EDT, John Hasler wrote: >Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Disregarding OSHW I agree that above options are good highlights. >> Additionally I suggest Olimex A64-Olinuxino and ESPRESSObin,

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread John Hasler
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Disregarding OSHW I agree that above options are good highlights. > Additionally I suggest Olimex A64-Olinuxino and ESPRESSObin, both > (unlike above options) known to be mainlined and work with Debian > Buster. The ESPRESSObin would fulfill my requirements, but does

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread deloptes
erived topic. No, I am helping the OP. As one wise man said once: from shit you can make only shit and this is it with low budget crappy hardware servers. He may be wise to understand you too. I did not want to induce my opinion that way, but if there is no other way to say it clear ... I hope now

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread David Christensen
On 8/8/19 7:22 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: To summarize: if you're running ZFS, it can protect you from lots of sources of data corruption. It can't protect you from RAM errors without ECC, so you should opt for ECC if integrity is your goal. None of the other filesystems protect you against RAM

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 04:49:06PM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: So is the general consensus that there are no modern SBCs powerful enough to run nextcloud on (apache, mariadb, php) or a mail server (typical postfix, dovecot, opendkim, SpamAssassin etc... ) for a handful of people? That seems hard

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Steven Mainor wrote: > So is the general consensus that there are no modern SBCs powerful enough to > run nextcloud on (apache, mariadb, php) or a mail server (typical postfix, > dovecot, opendkim, SpamAssassin etc... ) for a handful of people? That seems > hard to believe. > I would

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Steven Mainor
gt; > wants ECC memory. It was time to migrate to server hardware. >> > > > >> > > > My understanding is that ZFS's need / desire for ECC is >> > > > something of a myth. It's certainly true that many ZFS / >FreeNAS >> > > > *users*

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-08, Dan Ritter wrote: >> >> I think you are missing the point: When someone asks a question on this >> list, then that someone gets to decide what the question is. > > Sure. But they also bear the burden of communicating precisely > what it is that they are asking for, and

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Judah Richardson
ied to make the statement more precise, cause the > > first half contradicts the second. Of course you could use any > > hardware that runs linux as a server, but putting those demands > > together, seems the guy is looking in the wrong direction. If you put > > together mise

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-08-08 17:25:02) > Hi. > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 04:54:17PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > > Then Intel stopped making desktop boards and I wanted ZFS. ZFS > > > > > wants ECC memory. It was time to migrate

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting deloptes (2019-08-08 17:13:03) > Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Reading the whole initial post (not only first half) is good too ;-) > > But please, I tried to make the statement more precise, cause the > first half contradicts the second. Of course you could use any &g

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 04:54:17PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > Then Intel stopped making desktop boards and I wanted ZFS. ZFS > > > > wants ECC memory. It was time to migrate to server hardware. > > > > > > My underst

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread deloptes
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Indeed. > > Reading the whole initial post (not only first half) is good too ;-) But please, I tried to make the statement more precise, cause the first half contradicts the second. Of course you could use any hardware that runs linux as a server, but putt

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
making desktop boards and I wanted ZFS. ZFS > > > wants ECC memory. It was time to migrate to server hardware. > > > > My understanding is that ZFS's need / desire for ECC is something of > > a myth. It's certainly true that many ZFS / FreeNAS *users* have > > s

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
tion was in order, since to many people "server > hardware" means "suitable for use in a datacenter: rackmountable, > space-efficient, high-powered, hotswap drives..." whereas a Raspberry > Pi is also a server when you treat it as one. The original poster quite clearl

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Dan Ritter
/ need an optical disk? As > long as the machine can boot via USB, is an optical disk really > important for a server? > > ... > > > Then Intel stopped making desktop boards and I wanted ZFS. ZFS wants > > ECC memory. It was time to migrate to server hardwar

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Dan Ritter
they are asking for, and accepting that some responses will offer advice rather than answers. Some of that advice is even valuable! > Question was not "please advice on buying what you consider a server" > but "please advice on buying what original poster considers a

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Celejar
ia USB, is an optical disk really important for a server? ... > Then Intel stopped making desktop boards and I wanted ZFS. ZFS wants > ECC memory. It was time to migrate to server hardware. My understanding is that ZFS's need / desire for ECC is something of a myth. It's certainly true t

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread John Hasler
Steven Mainor wrote: > I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary > focus on security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that > will serve 3 to 5 people at most. David Christensen writes: > Have you considered a mail hosting provider? The Internet is a war >

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, August 08, 2019 04:50:31 AM Nicolas George wrote: > deloptes (12019-08-08): > > Well strictly speaking two different things are referred as server: > > > I have observed that contributors on this mailing-list have a tendency > to fall in two categories: > > - those who try to

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Kenneth Parker (2019-08-08 12:39:35) > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 4:50 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > > deloptes (12019-08-08): > > > Well strictly speaking two different things are referred as > > > server: > > > > > > I have observed that contributors on this mailing-list have a > >

Re: Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 4:50 AM Nicolas George wrote: > deloptes (12019-08-08): > > Well strictly speaking two different things are referred as server: > > > I have observed that contributors on this mailing-list have a tendency > to fall in two categories: > > - those who try to understand what

Helpful attitude (was: Server hardware advice.)

2019-08-08 Thread Nicolas George
deloptes (12019-08-08): > Well strictly speaking two different things are referred as server: I have observed that contributors on this mailing-list have a tendency to fall in two categories: - those who try to understand what the original poster says in order to reply in the most helpful

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 07 aug 19, 10:21:25, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Disregarding OSHW I agree that above options are good highlights. > Additionally I suggest Olimex A64-Olinuxino and ESPRESSObin, both > (unlike above options) known to be mainlined and work with Debian > Buster. The Rock64Pro (possibly

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-08 Thread David Christensen
requirements are: A server setup that can be run with completely open source software and doesn't require any binaries to boot. I don't trust anything closed source for this particular project. I prefer Intel brand motherboards, and Dell products with Intel chips, because the hardware quality is good

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Steven Mainor wrote: > I would say a server is any piece of software or hardware that serves data > to other devices. > Well strictly speaking two different things are referred as server: hardware software In your case you are talking about buying hardware - correct? A

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:12:20 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: > > > Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very > > little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by > > using old hardware. (You can still use ol

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread jochen-2019-q2
): Helios4 - [1]. 4 SATA ports controller attached to PCI-E. GnuBee - [2]. 6 SATA ports attached to PCI-E. Odroid HC2 - [3]. Single SATA port, attached to USB bus. No powerful computers exist today completely without non-free parts: Since you point to Open Source Hardware below, beware that none of above

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
I would say a server is any piece of software or hardware that serves data to other devices. I have run an apache2/mariadb/php server from an old laptop with a headless LTS Linux for over two years without issue. Surely you aren't saying only a rack mounted 64 core monstrosity with a TB

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread ghe
Depends on what you're trying to do. I run a small domain on a T1 without pictures or audio, so I'm using a Raspberry Pi 3 as a server. Quite a bit faster than the old PDP-11s the 'Net started out with, and significantly less expensive. And smaller. My domain used to be a lot larger, but still a

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 05:12:20PM +0200, deloptes wrote: Michael Stone wrote: Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure it's new

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Michael Stone wrote: > Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very > little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by > using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure it's > new enough that it's from the era when powe

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Michael Stone
(virtual box or vmware - I do not test containers, but I assume this will add overhead). Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure it's

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Steven Mainor wrote: > I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the hard drive(s) > I already have drives. Less is better. When I read server hardware I understand also server hardware. It has many CPUs a lot of ram, redundant power supply etc. It consumes a lot of

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-07 11:13, Nektarios Katakis wrote: On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 02:08:30 -0400 Steven Mainor wrote: You are correct. That was an oversight. Of all the items on that page I could probably afford the screwdriver and the heatsinks. I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 05:58:57AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: > Thanks for the reply. Those seem like options to consider. The > pre-orders for the helios4 seem to be sold out for now. They are currently at fourth "campaign", i.e. they're manufacturing a fourth batch. Supply is

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
the github link for the > schematic seems to be broken. > > https://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO/blob/master/HARDWARE/A64-OLinuXino/A64-OlinuXino_Rev_C.pdf They reorganized and updated that git. Try step back to https://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO/tree/master/HARDWARE/A64-OLinuXino See also

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Nektarios Katakis
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 02:08:30 -0400 Steven Mainor wrote: > You are correct. That was an oversight. > > Of all the items on that page I could probably afford the screwdriver > and the heatsinks. > > I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the hard > drive(s) I already have

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO/blob/master/HARDWARE/A64-OLinuXino/A64-OlinuXino_Rev_C.pdf -- Steven Mainor On August 7, 2019 4:21:25 AM EDT, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >Quoting Reco (2019-08-07 08:53:52) >> On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: >> > I'm looking for advi

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
Thanks for the reply. Those seem like options to consider. The pre-orders for the helios4 seem to be sold out for now. -- Steven Mainor On August 7, 2019 2:53:52 AM EDT, Reco wrote: >On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for advice on how

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-08-07 10:53:35) > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 10:21:25AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > That list is outdated somewhat. But it gave me good ideas back in > > > the day. > > > > Care to elaborate? > > Specifically it gave me an idea to buy that Linksys WRT1200. > Works for

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Reco
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 10:21:25AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > That list is outdated somewhat. But it gave me good ideas back in the > > day. > > Care to elaborate? Specifically it gave me an idea to buy that Linksys WRT1200. Works for me since stretch, the only disadvantages are the

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
id-hc2-home-cloud-two/ > > > > I don't have a room dedicated to my devices, is there any solution > that is fan less? > Url (3) looks to be the case. The ODroid board ships with huge passive cooling which helps if the room is adequately cool - and otherwise will "throttle&

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
from nextcloud. > > These fit all your requirements (i.e. it'll run stock buster kernel > without any additional firmware): > > Helios4 - [1]. 4 SATA ports controller attached to PCI-E. > GnuBee - [2]. 6 SATA ports attached to PCI-E. > Odroid HC2 - [3]. Single SATA port, attac

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread john doe
On 8/7/2019 8:53 AM, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on >> security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 >> people at most. >> >> My

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Reco
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on > security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 > people at most. > > My requirements are: > > A server setup

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
You are correct. That was an oversight. Of all the items on that page I could probably afford the screwdriver and the heatsinks. I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the hard drive(s) I already have drives. Less is better. -- Steven Mainor On August 7, 2019 1:52:15 AM

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 7/08/19 5:29 PM, Steven Mainor wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on > security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 > people at most. > > My requirements are: > > A server setup that can be run with

Server hardware advice.

2019-08-06 Thread Steven Mainor
Hi all, I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 people at most. My requirements are: A server setup that can be run with completely open source software and doesn't require any

ffmpeg in buster: encoding on hardware

2019-07-30 Thread Reco
Dear list, Buster changed some things, and one of those is the version of ffmpeg and its features. Note that I'm talking about ffmpeg binary here, not libraries. In stretch, ffmpeg provided "nvenc" hardware acceleration (NVIDIA proprietary cards only), that really shortene

Re: New Hardware + old disks not recognized

2019-06-26 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 26/06/2019 à 20:15, Ross Boylan a écrit : So do you think the chroot generated initrd would have been OK if I'd mounted proc? Yes.

Re: New Hardware + old disks not recognized

2019-06-26 Thread Ross Boylan
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:31 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 24/06/2019 à 01:40, Ross Boylan a écrit : > > > > # update-initramfs -u -k 4.19.0-5-amd64 > > update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-5-amd64 > > /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot: 64: > >

Re: New Hardware + old disks not recognized

2019-06-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 24/06/2019 à 01:40, Ross Boylan a écrit : # update-initramfs -u -k 4.19.0-5-amd64 update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-5-amd64 /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot: 64: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot: cannot open /proc/mounts: No such file cryptsetup:

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