Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 14:27, David Wright wrote: > Moral: always see what very large numbers look like in hex. Great tip, thanks!

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sun 30 Aug 2020 at 08:02:24 (+1000), David wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 19:51, Long Wind wrote: > > > sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda1 > [...] > > 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 068 000 Old_age Always - 403733086445 > > That result does not look good. It should be a low number. I wouldn't take

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 18:31:43 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > While storage in a file fine for trivial passwords such as those for > social sites storing important ones on the computer is a bad idea, > encrypted or not. So is copying and pasting them. Storing passords on paper in the clear ok, but

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

While storage in a file fine for trivial passwords such as those for social sites storing important ones on the computer is a bad idea, encrypted or not. So is copying and pasting them. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 08:38:41PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 11:34:27 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > tomas writes: > > > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is > > > memorized. > > > > I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random)

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 11:34:27 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is > > memorized. > > I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random) > passwords down. I end up memorizing the ones I use most, though.

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

tomas writes: > When a passphrase is long (16) I keep a little scrap until it is > memorized. I just follow Bruce Schneier's advice and write all of my (random) passwords down. I end up memorizing the ones I use most, though. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 09:20:18AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 03:34:30 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > The thing is... I didn't know I can easily memorize that until I > > tried! It's like getting up early without an alarm clock. If you > > trust yourself,

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 05:16:12 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 01 sep 20, 19:39:53, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending > > towards multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct" > > (all together as a

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wednesday, September 02, 2020 03:34:30 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > The thing is... I didn't know I can easily memorize that until I > tried! It's like getting up early without an alarm clock. If you > trust yourself, it kind of magically works. Until you (and/or your brain reach a certain

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sb, 29 aug 20, 21:03:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Uh, I have to ask. Or maybe I came into the middle of what has become a > boring thread? > > dd is a whole device writer, but his command line is to an existing > partition? His command line should not have had the 1 according to my >

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Ma, 01 sep 20, 19:39:53, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > That can be a good approach, but a modern approach seems to be tending > towards > multiple whole words, e.g. "book swimming Wednesday conduct" (all together as > a password. > > A password like this can be easier for a person to

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 11:30:44AM +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 02/09/2020 06:42, Mike McClain wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: > > > >>my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords > > The more experience you have the harder it is

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On 9/1/20 17:39, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 02:42:50 PM Mike McClain wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: >> >> >>> my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords >> >> The more experience you have the harder

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 02:42:50 PM Mike McClain wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: > > > > my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords > > The more experience you have the harder it is to find the > memory you're searching for.

Re: passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On 02/09/2020 06:42, Mike McClain wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords The more experience you have the harder it is to find the memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to

passwords + bad memory - Was (Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:41:06PM +, Long Wind wrote: > my memory is poor, i can't remember many accounts and passwords The more experience you have the harder it is to find the memory you're searching for. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Mnemonics can make passwords

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 12:15, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:41:06 + (UTC) Long Wind > wrote: > >On Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:24:54 PM EDT, Patrick Bartek > > wrote: > > My solution to all this has been to delete all my Yahoo accounts and be > > done with Yahoo.

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:41:06 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: >On Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:24:54 PM EDT, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > My solution to all this has been to delete all my Yahoo accounts and be > done with Yahoo.  Currently, I have only one account left which I'll be > keeping

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:24:54 PM EDT, Patrick Bartek wrote: My solution to all this has been to delete all my Yahoo accounts and be done with Yahoo.  Currently, I have only one account left which I'll be keeping for a few months until I can switch all the contacts over to the new

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 05:46:52AM +, Long Wind wrote: it's unbelievable that both tests passed i've installed debian to it some time ago, it failed today i install fedora from usb stick while waiting for copying i'm doing something else, not paying attention to pc screen. suddenly i find

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 15:04:46 +0100 Darac Marjal wrote: > On 31/08/2020 14:18, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > On 30/08/2020 19:02, Long Wind wrote: > >> On Sunday, August 30, 2020, 10:20:53 AM EDT, Charles Curley > >> wrote: > >>> Yahoo mail is broken. I encourage Mr. Wind to get another

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 31/08/2020 14:18, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 30/08/2020 19:02, Long Wind wrote: >> On Sunday, August 30, 2020, 10:20:53 AM EDT, Charles Curley >> wrote: >>> Yahoo mail is broken. I encourage Mr. Wind to get another mail reader. >> >> >> i don't have choice. gmail is blocked in china.

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 30/08/2020 19:02, Long Wind wrote: > On Sunday, August 30, 2020, 10:20:53 AM EDT, Charles Curley > wrote: >> Yahoo mail is broken. I encourage Mr. Wind to get another mail reader. > > > > i don't have choice. gmail is blocked in china. i've tried some free > chinese mail provider, they

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sunday, August 30, 2020, 10:06:55 PM EDT, Charles Curley wrote: Not good. Proton mail? https://protonmail.com/ Anyone got any other suggestions? Thank Charles,  Proton mail isn't blocked here now. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 22:02:21 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > i don't have choice. gmail is blocked in china. i've tried some free > chinese mail provider, they block debian list. (i've sent > subscription request thru their mail service, then nothing happened) Not good. Proton mail?

Re: Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:14:16 -0700 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > If someone can't be bothered to take the time to write a readable > message, I can't be bothered to take the time to decipher it. On the other tentacle, this sort of thing is usually the province of newbies. I think it would help to

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 30.08.20 03:03, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 29 August 2020 20:39:29 Marco Möller wrote: On 30.08.20 00:01, Long Wind wrote: (...) [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=8M status=progress (...) 14386462720 bytes (14 GB,

Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:30:01 +0200 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + > Andy Smith wrote: > >> Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very >> difficult to read your emails so I mostly haven't bothered. > > Hear, hear. My sentiments exactly. > > Yahoo

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + Andy Smith wrote: > Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very > difficult to read your emails so I mostly haven't bothered. Hear, hear. My sentiments exactly. Yahoo mail is broken. I encourage Mr. Wind to get another mail reader. -- Does

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

Hello, On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 12:00:38AM +, Long Wind wrote: > top-posting is default behavior of yahoo mail. i don't know why > it's inconvenient for some list users. I wouldn't normally bother to mention¹ but since you seem to be pushing back on this… Between your top posting and the

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 09:03:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > dd is a whole device writer, but his command line is to an existing > partition? No. 'dd' doesn't care. How/why should it? It can write to whatever is supposed to be organized as a sequence of blocks. I.e. a block device

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 30/8/20 10:39 am, Marco Möller wrote: [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=8M status=progress Um. my reading of the original question is that he Long tried to install onto /dev/sdb. Why are we blanking part of /dev/sda?

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Saturday 29 August 2020 22:01:03 Long Wind wrote: >On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 9:04:17 PM EDT, Gene Heskett > wrote: > > Uh, I have to ask. Or maybe I came into the middle of what has become > a boring thread? > > dd is a whole device writer, but his command line is to an existing >

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Saturday 29 August 2020 20:39:29 Marco Möller wrote: > On 30.08.20 00:01, Long Wind wrote: > (...) > > > [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=8M status=progress > > (...) > > > 14386462720 bytes (14 GB, 13 GiB) copied, 151.001

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 30.08.20 00:01, Long Wind wrote: (...) [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=8M status=progress (...) 14386462720 bytes (14 GB, 13 GiB) copied, 151.001 s, 95.3 MB/s dd: error writing '/dev/sda1': No space left on device 1719+0

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 10:04, Long Wind wrote: > On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 7:31:03 PM EDT, David > wrote: >> Many people have requested: >> CAN YOU PLEASE STOP TOP-POSTING. >> >> This means "please stop writing your reply at the top >> of the message". [...] >> Explained here: >>

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 7:31:03 PM EDT, David wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 09:08, Long Wind wrote: > where does /var/log/installer/syslog reside? > on the problem disk? In the filesystem of the new installation. > but i've just erased with command suggested by Marco: > sudo dd

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 09:08, Long Wind wrote: > where does /var/log/installer/syslog reside? > on the problem disk? In the filesystem of the new installation. > but i've just erased with command suggested by Marco: > sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=8M status=progress It appears that you

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 19:51, Long Wind wrote: > sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda1 [...] > 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 068 000 Old_age Always - 403733086445 That result does not look good. It should be a low number.

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 15:48, Long Wind wrote: > it's unbelievable that both tests passed > i've installed debian to it some time ago, it failed > today i install fedora from usb stick > while waiting for copying i'm doing something else, not paying attention to > pc screen. suddenly i find

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 05:46:52 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num  Test_Description    Status  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  > LBA_of_first_error > # 1  Extended offline    Completed

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 29.08.20 14:20, Long Wind wrote: it pass write test!  i really don't know where installation go wrong. After the disk itself seems to not cause the problem, at least not because of bad blocks, confirm that the data highways on your motherboard and any involved data caches are all still

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 29.08.20 10:18, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 29.08.2020 07:59, Long Wind wrote: installation of linux to sdb1 fails i believe hard disk has bad sector If hard drive has bad sectors or recently encountered them, information about this should be noted to hard drive's SMART table.

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, 7:11 AM Long Wind wrote: > Thank Alexander! i'll test it with write test. > > > > On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 4:18:31 AM EDT, Alexander V. Makartsev < > avbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 29.08.2020 07:59, Long Wind wrote: > > installation of linux to sdb1 fails > i

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On 29.08.2020 07:59, Long Wind wrote: > installation of linux to sdb1 fails > i believe hard disk has bad sector If hard drive has bad sectors or recently encountered them, information about this should be noted to hard drive's SMART table. Alternatively, you can use "badblocks" program from

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 15:48, Long Wind wrote: > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining LifeTime(hours) > LBA_of_first_error > # 1 Extended offlineCompleted without error

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 13:00, Long Wind wrote: Subject: how to test disk for bad sector > i believe hard disk has bad sector # smartctl -t short /dev/ # smartctl -t long /dev/ # smartctl -l selftest /dev/ Documentation: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SMART https://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: how to test disk for bad sector

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 02:59:53 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > installation of linux to sdb1 failsi believe hard disk has bad sectori use > e2fsck with -c, i.e. read-only testit doesn't  report any error How does install fail? Which version of Debian did you try to install? Did you read