Re: set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-15 Thread phoebus phoebus
again on the mailing list for >>discussion about the debian-install system: >>  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/ I sent an email to the list with the subject: "set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed (specify_usage)" Regards, Thierry

Re: set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-14 Thread David
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 00:32, phoebus phoebus wrote: > Thanks for the update. > >>From there I found this file for bullseye: > >> https://preseed.debian.net/debian-preseed/bullseye/amd64-main-full.txt > >>which contains this stanza which appears to match your description: > I tryed to adapt li

Re: set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-14 Thread David Wright
On Sun 14 Nov 2021 at 13:32:45 (+), phoebus phoebus wrote: >     1024 1024 2048 ext4 \ >   lv_name{ var+logc } \ >   method{ lvm } format{ } \ >     use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext4 } \ >   mountpoint{ /var/logc } \ >     options/nodev{ nodev } \ >     options/nosuid{

Re: set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-14 Thread phoebus phoebus
--- but it apply to all FS. /etc/mke2fs.con also indicates the values:     news = {         inode_ratio = 4096     }     largefile = {         inode_ratio = 10485

Re: set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-13 Thread David
On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 at 04:10, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 13 Nov 2021 at 00:31:42 (+), phoebus phoebus wrote: > > Do you know if it possible to set the number of inodes to create in > > the filesystem during the installalation with the pressed file? > > If i start

Re: set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Nov 2021 at 00:31:42 (+), phoebus phoebus wrote: > Do you know if it possible to set the number of inodes  to create in the > filesystem during the installalation with the pressed file? > > If i start from this example for the filesystem /var/log, how to set numbers

Re: set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-13 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2021-11-13 5:31 GMT+05:00, phoebus phoebus : > Do you know if it possible to set the number of inodes to create in the > filesystem during the installalation with the pressed file? You may try create fs in another console and use in without formatting. -- Stanislav

set the number of inodes during FS creation via pressed

2021-11-12 Thread phoebus phoebus
Hello all, Do you know if it possible to set the number of inodes  to create in the filesystem during the installalation with the pressed file? If i start from this example for the filesystem /var/log, how to set numbers of inodes inside it ?     500 550 1024 ext4

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
0GB root filesystem has 2½million inodes (13% used), > and /home (180GB) has 11½million (3%). So I'm not too apprehensive > about any future demise of mbox format. (Obviously, running a mailing > list or news server would be a different matter.) Thanks for the information, but, darn, I

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread David Wright
file, while maildir stores each email in a separate file. > > I suppose that, for someone who was going to archive a lot of mail and store > it in maildir format, they might have to consider more inodes (i.e., the news > option). > > (Even further aside: I am worried that wh

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 14:10, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : I suppose that, for someone who was going to archive a lot of mail and store it in maildir format, they might have to consider more inodes (i.e., the news option). Probably. Or use a filesystem type such as Btrfs or XFS which, unlike ext

You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
in > > an usual desktop environment ? > > I don’t think there’s any difference between SSD and spinning disk (for the > particular question of how many inodes are needed). > > If your planned usage is “typical” then, for either type of hardware, > “typical usage” is the right choi

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-06 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Tue, 2018-02-06 at 09:56 +1300, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 06/02/18 04:52, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults.  It > > took > > over an hour, but no errors were reported. > > Please try parallel memtester and stress. These found memory er

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 06/02/18 04:52, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took over an hour, but no errors were reported. Please try parallel memtester and stress. These found memory errors for me that were not found by memtest86+. In *eight* terminal window

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 06/02/18 07:32, David Wright wrote: I'm not in the habit of upgrading BIOS/UEFI on my computers. (I do have {amd64,intel}-microcode installed.) What old or buggy code would I be running when booting a linux installation? (I accept that Grub has to run, and the kernel and initramfs be found, in

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 19:40 +0100, Felipe Salvador wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 11:06:21PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > wrote: > > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > > Lately, it seems if I have been p

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Felipe Salvador
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 11:06:21PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlin

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 14:45:17 (-0200), Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am rather hesitant about updating the BIOS/UFEI. In fact I can't > > seem to find an upgrade for the FX-8320 on the AMD web site. > > An update, if any are available,

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/4/18, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. >> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlinked" files or directories were sti

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Jochen Spieker
Stephen P. Molnar: > > I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took > over an hour, but no errors were reported. That's not long enough. From what I have read you should let it run for a day or so and even then you cannot be sure that there are no memory errors. > I am ra

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
up to you, really. Your system is clearly misbehaving (unless you like to power it off improperly or something, in which case the orphan inodes are *expected* and you should have told us that first thing :p). -- Henrique Holschuh

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 10:15 +1300, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 05/02/18 09:49, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > They seem to happen when I am > > running  four or more apps at the same time. > > I would never expect to see orphaned inodes except after a system > c

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Sun, 2018-02-04 at 23:06 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > > nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlinked

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
(cue the cries of protest from > various  > corners that super-duper-dijeridoo-fs isn't exotic, and that I'm a  > dinosaur) but ext4 is in very wide use and as far as I know, stable. > > Anyway worth confirming what filesystem(s) is/are actually on the > disks  > where

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Sun, 2018-02-04 at 20:45 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2018 15:49:36 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > nodes. > > > > I have goggled the causes

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
lks reading the Debian-users list.  I always shut down the system with the Shutdown command. The only exception would be a locked system, which is the only recourse I know of for orphaned inodes? -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Consultant www.molecular-modeling.net (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > Can anyone give me some guidance in what I should be looking for?  It > would be much appreciated. >From my experience most probably inappropriate shutdown (no unmount when shutdown). How do you shutdown your machine? Can you try without systemd (just install sysvinit a

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread David Christensen
On 2/4/18 12:49 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: receiving warning messages from the OS, Please post the warning messages from the OS, and identify where they are coming from. Please run 'mount' and post the prompt, the command, and the relevant portions of the output. Please do the same for

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread The Wanderer
ion not uncommonly on boot-up, and I suspect it's from this cause, for the simple reason that most of my shutdowns are unclean; specifically, most of my shutdowns are due to power loss. I don't tend to shut the machine down on purpose very often. I don't find it surprising that o

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 February 2018 15:49:36 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no > results that make any se

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. That means: 1. "unlinked" files or directories were still open when the filesystem had to be shutdown/made re

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Mark Fletcher
as I know, stable. Anyway worth confirming what filesystem(s) is/are actually on the disks where orphaned inodes are occurring. If it is something more unusual, you might have found a bug in the filesystem. Also, do you use encryption on your disks eg LUKS? Just a couple of thoughts Mark

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 05/02/18 09:49, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: They seem to happen when I am running  four or more apps at the same time. I would never expect to see orphaned inodes except after a system crash or kernel memory corruption. How did you test your CPU and RAM? Do you see any other symptoms such as

Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no results that make any sense to me. I've been using computer since the early 1960's but am an or

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-24, John Hasler wrote: > Tony Baldwin writes: >> They DO show ads. They just don't do the tracking and the >> filtering/manipulation of your search results. > > You know this how? They were awarded the European Privacy Seal, which apparently is based on verifiable criteria, if you're

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:04 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 22:31 +0100, Padraig Rocks wrote: > > > If one has an objection to using google (privacy, tracking, cookies) > > is it not a little hypocritical to use Startpage which is still > > relying on Google search anyway ? >

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 22:31 +0100, Padraig Rocks wrote: > If one has an objection to using google (privacy, tracking, cookies) > is it not a little hypocritical to use Startpage which is still > relying on Google search anyway ? Yesno, it is and it isn't at the same time, if you ask this questio

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Padraig Rocks
On Saturday, 24 May 2014, Tony Baldwin wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:29:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Reco writes: > > > He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show > > > any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on > > > their site, and

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread John Hasler
Tony Baldwin writes: > Startpage proxies google results, so it already brings you those > results without all the filtering, manipulating, tracking, etc. with > no further effort on your part to block that crap. Since I always block all that crap no further effort is required. -- John Hasler jha

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread John Hasler
Tony Baldwin writes: > They DO show ads. They just don't do the tracking and the > filtering/manipulation of your search results. You know this how? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:29:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Reco writes: > > He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show > > any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on > > their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're > > l

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 07:34:18AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and > > trackers blocked. > > Chris Bannister writes: > > It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) > > How is that easier? Startpage proxies goo

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:29:39 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Reco writes: > > He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show > > any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on > > their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're > >

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread John Hasler
Reco writes: > He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show > any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on > their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're > lifting Google's search results. But I always block ads, cookies, scrip

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 07:34:18AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and > > trackers blocked. > > Chris Bannister writes: > > It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) > > How is that easier? They do it all for yo

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 24 May 2014 07:34:18 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and > > trackers blocked. > > Chris Bannister writes: > > It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) > > How is that easier? He meant that StartP

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Richard Hector
On 24/05/14 23:04, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp >>> doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't e

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and > trackers blocked. Chris Bannister writes: > It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) How is that easier? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 24/05/14 12:04, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp >>> doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't e

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote: So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes. Except that if they're in the 

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 23 mai 14, 20:05:57, Tony Baldwin wrote: > > I found that /etc/apache2/php5.ini had session.save_path set to "/tmp". > I rent a server from contabo, where this line is commented out, so I > commented it out here on the little home server. > No more sess files are being written to /tmp. > I'

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Joel Rees writes: > > The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside... > > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and > trackers blocked. It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) -- "I

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Richard Hector
On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp > doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes. Except that if they're in the 'normal' place (/var/lib/php5), there&#

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread John Hasler
Joel Rees writes: > The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside... Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Joel Rees
the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not >> > write to disk). >> > df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of >> > inodes. >> > I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a natur

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Tony Baldwin
gt; > write to disk). > > df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of > > inodes. > > I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like > > sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3 > > in /tmp at a rate

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Joel Rees
d that / was 100% full of > inodes. > I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like > sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3 > in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute. > [...] Does searching the web for "sess files" produce any

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Jerry Stuckle
ing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of inodes. I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3 in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute. They can't be session files for users on my sites on

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Tony Baldwin
f -i showed that / was 100% full of > inodes. > I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like > sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3 > in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute. > They can't be session files for users on my sites on th

rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Tony Baldwin
Yesterday I could not log into a site on a little server here in my office. I ssh-ed to the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not write to disk). df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of inodes. I'v e since found that apache2 i

Re: Large File Systems - Enough inodes?

2014-05-20 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/05/14 09:22, theartloy wrote: > Just a data point, this behaviour has changed; > > wheezy's mke2fs(8) has this: >> > Be warned that it is not possible to expand the number of inodes >> > on a filesystem after it is created, so be careful deciding the >&

Re: Large File Systems - Enough inodes?

2014-05-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/20/2014 12:00 PM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 21/05/14 04:24, Sven Hartge wrote: ... > I like to create filesystems relatively small, on LVM, so that any of > them can be grown later, when I find out where the space is needed. But > extending an ext(2|3|4) filesystem doesn't

Re: Large File Systems - Enough inodes?

2014-05-20 Thread theartloy
On 20/05/14 18:00, Richard Hector wrote: > I like to create filesystems relatively small, on LVM, so that any of > them can be grown later, when I find out where the space is needed. But > extending an ext(2|3|4) filesystem doesn't create new inodes, so the > ratio of inodes to

Re: Large File Systems - Enough inodes?

2014-05-20 Thread Richard Hector
> >> Will 'mkfs' create "enough" inodes? Or, would it be better to, say, >> split the 2TB into four 500GB file systems. Or, some other approach? > > I have in my 15 years as Linux admin only run out if inodes in two > cases: > > a) INN2 usenet

Re: Large File Systems - Enough inodes?

2014-05-20 Thread Sven Hartge
Kenneth Jacker wrote: > I am buying two new SATA hard drives: 1TB and 2TB. > I'd like to use the 2TB unit for backups (typical Linux directories > and files) ... with just a single file system (ext4 most likely). > Will 'mkfs' create "enough" inodes? Or

Large File Systems - Enough inodes?

2014-05-20 Thread Kenneth Jacker
I am buying two new SATA hard drives: 1TB and 2TB. I'd like to use the 2TB unit for backups (typical Linux directories and files) ... with just a single file system (ext4 most likely). Will 'mkfs' create "enough" inodes? Or, would it be better to, say, split the

read ext3 w/inodes>128 from XP

2010-08-07 Thread Freeman
to work on ext2/ext3 partitions with 256 inodes. My favorite, Ext2 IFS, calls >128 inodes a new feature of the latest kernel. The suggested workaround: |Currently there is only one workaround: Please backup the files and create |the Ext3 file system again. Give the mkfs.ext3 tool the I 128

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed March 17 2010 17:34:50 Mike Bird wrote: > (1) You don't have an inode shortage. You have 99%/89%/99% inodes free. > (2) You can confirm this with "df -i". > (3) Hardlinks do not consume any inodes, only directory space. > (4) You're short of blocks (not inod

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Bird
guess it is those hardlinks > that are consuming the inodes. (1) You don't have an inode shortage. You have 99%/89%/99% inodes free. (2) You can confirm this with "df -i". (3) Hardlinks do not consume any inodes, only directory space. (4) You're short of blocks (not inodes) on yo

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100317_222432, Siju George wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Stefan Monnier > wrote: > >> I am runnig backuppc on this server and I guess it is those hardlinks > >> that are consuming the inodes. > > > > hardlinks do not use inodes (they o

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Siju George
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I am runnig backuppc on this server and I guess it is those hardlinks >> that are consuming the inodes. > > hardlinks do not use inodes (they only use up space in the directory in > which they appear).  But ev

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I am runnig backuppc on this server and I guess it is those hardlinks > that are consuming the inodes. hardlinks do not use inodes (they only use up space in the directory in which they appear). But every symlink and every directory does use an inode. Stefan -- To UNSUB

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
those hardlinks >> that are consuming the inodes. >> Is there any way to increase the inode nos? > > If this is extX, AFAIK you have to back up you data, re-run mkfs with > "-N " to change the inode count, and restore your data. May as well use "mkfs.xfs&quo

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Javier Barroso
/boot 173 GB (99% inode=99%): >> > I am runnig backuppc on this server and I guess it is those hardlinks >> > that are consuming the inodes. >> > Is there any way to increase the inode nos? >> >> If this is extX, AFAIK you have to back up you data,

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Siju George
ver and I guess it is those hardlinks > > that are consuming the inodes. > > Is there any way to increase the inode nos? > > If this is extX, AFAIK you have to back up you data, re-run mkfs with > "-N " to change the inode count, and restore your data. > Thanks

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Tom H
> I got this warning from nagios about one of my debian systems > DISK WARNING - free space: /var 426 GB (54% inode=99%): / 6 GB (1% > inode=89%): /boot 173 GB (99% inode=99%): > I am runnig backuppc on this server and I guess it is those hardlinks > that are consuming the inodes.

Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Siju George
Hi, I got this warning from nagios about one of my debian systems DISK WARNING - free space: /var 426 GB (54% inode=99%): / 6 GB (1% inode=89%): /boot 173 GB (99% inode=99%): I am runnig backuppc on this server and I guess it is those hardlinks that are consuming the inodes. Is there any way to

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-03-09 19:57:03, schrieb postid: > Again, my apologies, this time for not supplying more complete > info. I'm using ext3, running Sarge on an IBM R40 laptop along > with Knoppix (hd install) and WinXP (for encrypted DVDs. Why not use libdvdcss2 insteard of WinXP? Note: I had a R40-2328

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 08:41:02PM -0700, David Fox wrote: > On 3/10/08, postid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Isn't this a bit of a security breach? Anyone booting my laptop > > would have potential access to my files. Would a person using > > this shell have root privileges? > > You would only b

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 09:34:14PM +, postid wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:57:03PM +, postid wrote: > > > >>Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >>>On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 03:59:45PM +, postid wrote: > >>>The magic keystrokes just sync the disks, they do not unmoun

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-11 Thread postid
Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 postid wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 03:59:45PM +, postid wrote: For the second time in a month I got an error message indicating bad inodes and had to fsck manually. I've had bad inodes b

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/10/08 16:34, postid wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: [snip] >> >> Edit the kernel command line, add init=/bin/sh >> When the kernel boots, instead of runing /bin/init, it will run /bin/sh >> and give you a shell, no password required. > > Isn't

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-10 Thread David Fox
On 3/10/08, postid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't this a bit of a security breach? Anyone booting my laptop > would have potential access to my files. Would a person using > this shell have root privileges? You would only be running in init=/bin/sh temporarily, long enough to fix the issue, t

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-10 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 postid wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 03:59:45PM +, postid wrote: >> >>> For the second time in a month I got an error message >>> indicating bad inodes and had to fsck manually. >&

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-10 Thread postid
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:57:03PM +, postid wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 03:59:45PM +, postid wrote: The magic keystrokes just sync the disks, they do not unmount the filesystems. Thus, things can become corrupted. If it were me

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:57:03PM +, postid wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 03:59:45PM +, postid wrote: > >The magic keystrokes just sync the disks, they do not unmount the > >filesystems. Thus, things can become corrupted. If it were me, after > >such a rebo

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-09 Thread postid
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 03:59:45PM +, postid wrote: For the second time in a month I got an error message indicating bad inodes and had to fsck manually. I've had bad inodes before not long after a failure to load my PCMCIA modem (which resulted in endless

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-09 Thread postid
Mike Bird wrote: On Sun March 9 2008 08:59:45 postid wrote: Any ideas as to what causes such problems? Is it that PCMCIA loading problem, my hard drive dying, an OS problem or a software problem? ext2? ext3? ... If ext2, I'd suggest adding a journal. --Mike Bird ext3 -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 03:59:45PM +, postid wrote: > For the second time in a month I got an error message > indicating bad inodes and had to fsck manually. > > I've had bad inodes before not long after a failure to load > my PCMCIA modem (which resulted in endless erro

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 08:59:45 postid wrote: > Any ideas as to what causes such problems? Is it that PCMCIA > loading problem, my hard drive dying, an OS problem or > a software problem? ext2? ext3? ... If ext2, I'd suggest adding a journal. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/09/08 10:59, postid wrote: > Greetings: [snip] > > Any ideas as to what causes such problems? Is it that PCMCIA > loading problem, my hard drive dying, an OS problem or > a software problem? Inattentive parents? Republican budget cuts? Sex, d

What causes bad inodes?

2008-03-09 Thread postid
Greetings: For the second time in a month I got an error message indicating bad inodes and had to fsck manually. I've had bad inodes before not long after a failure to load my PCMCIA modem (which resulted in endless error messages on boot) and before I knew alt sysrq-r -s -e -i -u -b an

Re: 'out of space' vs 'out of inodes'?

2007-07-21 Thread Mike Bird
; of why a full inode table would be treated the same as a full partition. > Will have to look in some unix lore maybe... A small sensible set of kernel error codes makes it possible for applications to respond sensibly to errors. If every application had to worry about different errors for

Re: 'out of space' vs 'out of inodes'?

2007-07-20 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:54:00PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > A general Linux question: why does Linux report 'out of space' error > > when it runs out of inodes? Can't it distinguish between the 2 > > conditions to give the correct

Re: 'out of space' vs 'out of inodes'?

2007-07-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Kevin Mark wrote: > A general Linux question: why does Linux report 'out of space' error > when it runs out of inodes? Can't it distinguish between the 2 > conditions to give the correct message or is there some other issue? > Just curious as I just go this after making

Re: 'out of space' vs 'out of inodes'?

2007-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
question: why does Linux report 'out of space' error >>> when it runs out of inodes? Can't it distinguish between the 2 >>> conditions to give the correct message or is there some other issue? >>> Just curious as I just go this after making 1,000,000 small

Re: 'out of space' vs 'out of inodes'?

2007-07-20 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/20/07 18:13, Kevin Mark wrote: > > A general Linux question: why does Linux report 'out of space' error > > when it runs out of inodes?

Re: 'out of space' vs 'out of inodes'?

2007-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/07 18:13, Kevin Mark wrote: > A general Linux question: why does Linux report 'out of space' error > when it runs out of inodes? Can't it distinguish between the 2 > conditions to give the correct message or is there

'out of space' vs 'out of inodes'?

2007-07-20 Thread Kevin Mark
A general Linux question: why does Linux report 'out of space' error when it runs out of inodes? Can't it distinguish between the 2 conditions to give the correct message or is there some other issue? Just curious as I just go this after making 1,000,000 small test files and got

Re: Inodes date in future - problem

2007-02-18 Thread David Dawson
David Dawson wrote: > Running Debian Etch on an AMD Athlon 2100+ ECS motherboard with 3 hard > disks, the 40 G original hard disk was showing inodes date in future on a > user forced fsck. > The reason the user forced the fsck was because of a system sluggishness > he suspect

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