Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: 明覺 writes: yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other language programmed softwares installed in

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/22 Peter Crawford : > > Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? > > Eventually you might find DirectFB acceptable. > http://en.wi

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > 明覺 writes: >> yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full >> control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other >> language programmed softwares installed in my system, it will be hard to >> main

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, 明覺 wrote: ... Looks like a strange idea to me to run a "one programming language only" system, it would hint that there's a "one fits all" language and other are just for decoration purpose... (Well, some may agree I guess ;-) ) yes, currently, I'm almost a "one

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* 明覺 [2009 Jun 22 10:00 -0500]: > 2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > >> reach it? > > > > Not y

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:59:18PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > 2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > >> reac

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Tony Baldwin
明覺 wrote: > 2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >>> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >>> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >>> reach it? >> Not yet until you help us writing syste

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 08:54:02AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Let's throw some data into this discussion: > > LXDE is a rather minimalistic desktop. IceWM is an example of a > resonable (not-so-bloated) window manager. > > $ aptitude why lxde perl ... It looked good but you are missing basic

RE: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Peter Crawford
Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? Eventually you might find DirectFB acceptable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectFB Lack of XDi

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? Not yet until you help us writing system commands in C/C++. > I removed the 2 packages,

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread John Hasler
明覺 writes: > yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full > control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those other > language programmed softwares installed in my system, it will be hard to > maintain for me. If learning enough of another language to do

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/22 Osamu Aoki : > Hi, > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? > > Not yet until you help us writing system commands in C/C

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread John Hasler
明覺 writes: > thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been > tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "learning", it's just > some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to C/C++. C/C++ is really just improved FORTRAN. Learn Lisp and Haskell and For

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > 明覺 writes: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >>> So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? >>> >>> Python? Python is not a dependency.

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Eduardo M >> KALINOWSKI wrote: >>> >>> If you don't want to learn Perl or Python, then simply don't. You don't >>> have >>> to know the language to run programs writt

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Michael Ekstrand
明覺 writes: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> >>> So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? >> >> Python? Python is not a dependency. perl-base is. perl is, to a lesser >> extent. > gnome depends on

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: If you don't want to learn Perl or Python, then simply don't. You don't have to know the language to run programs written in it, and you don't need to have plans to modify the programs in order to use the

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: >> >> I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my >> programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the >> programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明�X
2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : > 2009/6/22 明�X : >> 2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : >>> 2009/6/22 明�X : On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, thveillon.debian wrote: >>Sebastian Günther wrote: >> * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: >>> I want to keep the programs in my system all written

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, thveillon.debian wrote: >>明�X wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, >> thveillon.debian wrote: Sebastian Günther wrote: * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 22 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote: I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I will be able to modify them someday in the future. thanks If you don't

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/22 Sebastian Günther : > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:20 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > > >> >> thank you for the perfect analysis! so does it mean debian determines >> the use of python and perl? could you help recommend some >> distributions that do not need perl or python? thanks >> > > I do not know

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Neal Hogan
2009/6/22 明�X : > 2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : >> 2009/6/22 明�X : >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, >>> thveillon.debian wrote: >Sebastian Günther wrote: > * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or p

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread thveillon.debian
>明覺 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, > thveillon.debian wrote: >>> Sebastian Günther wrote: >>> * 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >>>

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 01:43:02PM +0200, Sebastian Günther wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:20 +0800 > 明覺 wrote: > > > thank you for the perfect analysis! so does it mean debian determines > > the use of python and perl? could you help recommend some > > distributions that do not need perl or

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明�X
2009/6/22 Neal Hogan : > 2009/6/22 明�X : >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, >> thveillon.debian wrote: Sebastian Günther wrote: * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programm

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Neal Hogan
2009/6/22 明�X : > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, > thveillon.debian wrote: >>>Sebastian Günther wrote: >>> * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible t

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Sebastian Günther
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:20 +0800 明覺 wrote: > > thank you for the perfect analysis! so does it mean debian determines > the use of python and perl? could you help recommend some > distributions that do not need perl or python? thanks > I do not know any distribution, that does not depend on

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* 明覺 [2009 Jun 22 04:48 -0500]: > 2009/6/22 Sebastian Günther : > > BTW: perl and python are not that hard to learn or read, since their > > main purpose was to help sysadmins to get their jobs done. And mostly > > they are not programming gurus... > yes, they are not hard to learn, but if to lea

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:45:46PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > > > yes, currently, I'm almost a "one programming language only" people, I > > can accept the existence of other languages, but I think they should > > be optional, not necessory! On 22.06.09 10:06, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Such an attitude wo

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Steve Kemp
On Mon Jun 22, 2009 at 18:02:28 +0800, ?...@k4 wrote: > no problem with perl, I just want to keep my system simple so that I > will be able to modify them someday in the future, without learning > any other programming languages. You will not be able to run a Debian desktop system without Perl.

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > >> So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? > > Python? Python is not a dependency. perl-base is. perl is, to a lesser > extent. gnome depends on python, if other deskt

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:45:46PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > yes, currently, I'm almost a "one programming language only" people, I > can accept the existence of other languages, but I think they should > be optional, not necessory! Such an attitude won't get you very far in a Linux ecosphere. If you'r

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? Python? Python is not a dependency. perl-base is. perl is, to a lesser extent. > could you help recommend some distributions that do not need perl or > python? thanks What's you

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
2009/6/22 Sebastian Günther : > * 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 05:33]: >> I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my >> programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the >> programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I will be >> able to

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM, thveillon.debian wrote: >>Sebastian Günther wrote: >> * 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: >>> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >>> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >>> reach it? I remove

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, i

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-22 Thread thveillon.debian
>Sebastian Günther wrote: > * 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, >> and of ca

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-21 Thread Sebastian Günther
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 05:33]: > I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my > programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the > programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I will be > able to modify them someday in the future. t

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-21 Thread Sebastian Günther
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it p

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-21 Thread 明覺
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > 明覺 wrote: > >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, >> and of

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-21 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop > mana

Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-21 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:17 PM, 明覺 wrote: > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it poss

is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

2009-06-21 Thread 明覺
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop manager without perl and

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