Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On 2005-08-18 13:15:23 +0800, csj wrote: > If that's the case the patent on mp3 should have expired by > now. There are several patents. See . -- Vincent Lefèvre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On 17. August 2005 at 10:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 17 August 2005 08:57 am, Javier-Elias Vasquez-Vivas wrote: > > On 8/13/05, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Saturday 13 August 2005 10:05 pm, Rishi wrote: > > > > Just curious. Any reasons w

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting On Wednesday 17 August 2005 08:57 am, Javier-Elias Vasquez-Vivas wrote: > On 8/13/05, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday 13 August 2005 10:05 pm, Rishi wrote: > > > Just curious. Any reasons why the 'lame' package is not included in > > > the debia

Packaging of lame upstream (was: Re: lame not in the debian package repository?)

Hi, this is just an aside on this discussion. I am a member of the lame team and I am gradually upgrading things related to the Debian packaging of lame, since a new release (that is, lame 3.97) is expected to happen soon. If you use MP3 for your computers/devices and you use Debian, please let m

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On 17. August 2005 at 6:04PM +0200, Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Ogg (Vorbis audio) is a much more recent technology than mp3, twenty or > so years if I'm not mistaken. mp3 has been around a lot longer than it > has been popular, mostly because PCs only became strong enoug

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

Javier-Elias Vasquez-Vivas wrote: How about flac? Is there any comparisson between flac and Ogg in terms of compresion and sound quality? Flac is lossless compression. Almost like zipping a wav file, the compression is just optimised for the type of data in an audio stream. Ogg does the sa

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

How about flac? Is there any comparisson between flac and Ogg in terms of compresion and sound quality? Thx, Javier. On 8/13/05, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 13 August 2005 10:05 pm, Rishi wrote: > > > Just curious. Any reasons why the 'lame' package is not included in

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 10:33 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 11:53:11PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > > He also incorrectly attributed the ownership of the patent(s). > > Just for the record, what *is* the proper patent attribution? The Fraunhofer Institute for Integrated C

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 11:53:11PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > > He also incorrectly attributed the ownership of the patent(s). Just for the record, what *is* the proper patent attribution? -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Saturday 13 August 2005 11:40 pm, Rishi wrote: > > As Paul pointed out, it is better to use a tool that implements a > > patent-free algorithm. > > Hmm. Then I guess I screwed up when I bought the Sony USB NS-11 MP3 > Player (512 MB). I tried to play an OGG file on the device, but no > joy. > >

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Monday 15 August 2005 04:37, Hans du Plooy wrote: > I really couldn't care if mp3 is free or not, it doesn't cost anything > to compile lame and it doesn't cost anything to play back mp3s either, > so what's the fuss? Another poster correctly stated it isn't DFSG-Free, though it is available.

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Monday 15 August 2005 10:37, Hans du Plooy wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > But the point still stands, if you want free you use Ogg. If you want > > wrong, go with MP3. > > I really couldn't care if mp3 is free or not, it doesn't cost anything > to compile lame and it doesn't cost anything to

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

Paul Johnson wrote: But the point still stands, if you want free you use Ogg. If you want wrong, go with MP3. I really couldn't care if mp3 is free or not, it doesn't cost anything to compile lame and it doesn't cost anything to play back mp3s either, so what's the fuss? What concerns me m

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Sunday 14 August 2005 08:25 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 02:45:21PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Then you should use MS Windows. :-/ > > I do, for some things. For other things, I use Linux, for still other > things I use oBSD, and for yet more things, I use MacOS X. B

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 02:45:21PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Then you should use MS Windows. :-/ I do, for some things. For other things, I use Linux, for still other things I use oBSD, and for yet more things, I use MacOS X. -- Marc Wilson | Behind every great computer sits a skinny

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On 2005-08-13 23:53:11 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > Paul did not point out that it was better to use a tool that > implements a patent-free algorithm. He merely made the usual "use > Vorbis!" knee-jerk reaction. > > Personally, I find "more widely supported" a compelling measure of > "better". The

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

Rishi: > > Does anyone know of hardware ogg players (usb) that I can buy? This question was answered just a couple of days ago. Search for "Portable OGG Player". My recommendation: Iriver H120 (or H140, for 40GB instead of 20). J. -- I frequently find myself at the top of the stairs with absolu

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 01:38:52AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > As Paul pointed out, it is better to use a tool that implements a > patent-free algorithm. Paul did not point out that it was better to use a tool that implements a patent-free algorithm. He merely made the usual "use Vorbis!"

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

> As Paul pointed out, it is better to use a tool that implements a > patent-free algorithm. Hmm. Then I guess I screwed up when I bought the Sony USB NS-11 MP3 Player (512 MB). I tried to play an OGG file on the device, but no joy. Does anyone know of hardware ogg players (usb) that I can buy?

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On August 13, 2005 22:38, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > As Paul pointed out, it is better to use a tool that implements a > patent-free algorithm. Yes, but unfortunately my car stereo only plays mp3's RJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 10:22:52PM -0700, Roy Pluschke wrote: > On August 13, 2005 22:05, Rishi wrote: > > Hi > > > > Just curious. Any reasons why the 'lame' package is not included in > > the debian package repository? > > > > Regards > > Legal reasons -- mp3 encoding is patented. Use ftp://ftp

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On August 13, 2005 22:05, Rishi wrote: > Hi > > Just curious. Any reasons why the 'lame' package is not included in > the debian package repository? > > Regards Legal reasons -- mp3 encoding is patented. Use ftp://ftp.nerim.net as a repository for lame, mplayer, audio/video codecs etc. RJP --

Re: lame not in the debian package repository?

On Saturday 13 August 2005 10:05 pm, Rishi wrote: > Just curious. Any reasons why the 'lame' package is not included in > the debian package repository? Thanks to BMG Music, all MP3 encoders are non-free. Try a patent-unencumbered format like Ogg Vorbis instead. pgpdv1anmYE7R.pgp Description:

lame not in the debian package repository?

Hi Just curious. Any reasons why the 'lame' package is not included in the debian package repository? Regards -- Rishi