Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/06/11 08:46, Brian wrote: On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 21:07:07 +0100, Dom wrote: On 09/06/11 19:35, Brian wrote: The question remains - Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet cable be expected to bring the interface up or down? This sounds like a job for ifplugd It is, because

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:29:39 +0100, Brian wrote: On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 19:11:48 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) The question remains - Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet cable be expected to bring the interface up or down? It does not have to be an isolated event. For

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 22:55:38 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: #allow-hotplug eth0 auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static The device name changed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 21:24:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet cable be expected to bring the interface up or down? That's the whole point of allow-hotplug. In which case it is not

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 18:51:06 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: e100: eth0 NIC Link is Down e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex Shows the cable was initially unplugged and then connected. The machine was booted/woke up before the connection was made? You're using dhcp? And ifconfig

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/06/11 22:20, Brian wrote: On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 21:24:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet cable be expected to bring the interface up or down? That's the whole point of allow-hotplug.

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 11:25:25 +, Camaleón wrote: Now we have to extract some conclusions which is what I tried to do. The premise is false: plugging in a cable does not bring up the interface with ifconfig. This would make the conclusions suspect. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 23:40:35 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 10/06/11 22:20, Brian wrote: Remove cable. root@dektop3:~# dmesg | tail -n 1 [ 158.220270] via-rhine :00:12.0: eth0: link down snipped eth0 is not brought down Yes it is

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:25:40 +0100, Brian wrote: On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 11:25:25 +, Camaleón wrote: Now we have to extract some conclusions which is what I tried to do. The premise is false: plugging in a cable does not bring up the interface with ifconfig. This would make the

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/06/11 00:43, Brian wrote: On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 23:40:35 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 10/06/11 22:20, Brian wrote: Remove cable. root@dektop3:~# dmesg | tail -n 1 [ 158.220270] via-rhine :00:12.0: eth0: link down snipped eth0 is not brought down Yes it is

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 11 Jun 2011 at 02:46:04 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: Re-inserted text (referring to an active cable being plugged and unplugged:- What is an 'active' cable? -- If you change the static settings to dhcp it should change - provided network manager is not installed of course.

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 19:02:43 +, Camaleón wrote: I can't tell for sure, but many users are experincing the same problem, and not only from Debian but also from Ubuntu and Mint, so... casualty? :-) I'm always more comfortable with specifics. Hum... I don't rebember nothing about dhcp

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:48:00 +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 19:02:43 +, Camaleón wrote: I can't tell for sure, but many users are experincing the same problem, and not only from Debian but also from Ubuntu and Mint, so... casualty? :-) I'm always more comfortable with

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 17:55:50 +, Camaleón wrote: Hum... what happens when you attach a USB device to the computer? Kernel detects it and DE mounts it based on user's settings. And what happens when you dettach the key? Kernel (or udev, or both) remove/umount the device. You are

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:35:48 +0100, Brian wrote: On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 17:55:50 +, Camaleón wrote: Hum... what happens when you attach a USB device to the computer? Kernel detects it and DE mounts it based on user's settings. And what happens when you dettach the key? Kernel (or udev,

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Dom
On 09/06/11 19:35, Brian wrote: On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 17:55:50 +, Camaleón wrote: Hum... what happens when you attach a USB device to the computer? Kernel detects it and DE mounts it based on user's settings. And what happens when you dettach the key? Kernel (or udev, or both)

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 19:11:48 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:35:48 +0100, Brian wrote: You are talking about *devices* here. AFAIK, network devices (NICs) are also managed by udev. Maybe - but the cable is not a device. With a static address stanza in /e/n/i the interface

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 21:07:07 +0100, Dom wrote: On 09/06/11 19:35, Brian wrote: The question remains - Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet cable be expected to bring the interface up or down? This sounds like a job for ifplugd It is, because manipulating a cable does not and

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Mitchell Laks ml...@post.harvard.edu wrote: On 11:39 Tue 07 Jun     , Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:10:48 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: The following is a problem I have on all laptops, I dont know how to configure to connect when the ethernet cable is

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 19:02:43 +, Camaleón wrote: Hum... I don't rebember nothing about dhcp or static addressing but something about plugging/unplugging the ethernet cable and after that no interface coming up. Why

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-09 Thread Mitchell Laks
I hope that you all realize I am not replying to this correspondent, but rather following up the thread. I am __not__ using dhcp. This is not a dhcp problem. I use static IP addresses on all of my ethernet cabled networks. I have approximately 100 different debian machines in multiple

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:03:28 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: On 11:39 Tue 07 Jun , Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:10:48 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: The following is a problem I have on all laptops, I dont know how to configure to connect when the ethernet cable is attached.

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Brian
On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 19:03:28 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#list-of-stanzas-in-eni refers to man 5 interfaces which doesn't seem to explain what software is doing the work after the plugin of the ethernet cord... and only if auto and

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:09:41 +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 19:03:28 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#list-of- stanzas-in-eni refers to man 5 interfaces which doesn't seem to explain what software is doing the work after the

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Brian
On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 16:06:34 +, Camaleón wrote: It seems it can fail, at least under some scenarios ;-) ifupdown: /etc/init.d/networking should support allow-hotplug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550014 This isn't a failure of allow-hotplug but a perceived defect in

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:27:44 +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 16:06:34 +, Camaleón wrote: It seems it can fail, at least under some scenarios ;-) ifupdown: /etc/init.d/networking should support allow-hotplug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550014 This

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-07 Thread Brian
On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 00:10:48 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: I have a stanza in the /etc/network/interfaces that configures the eth0. Seeing /etc/network/interfaces wouldn't do any harm. This is on laptops I try that I have this problem. You're not running Network Manager on the laptop? --

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:10:48 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: The following is a problem I have on all laptops, I dont know how to configure to connect when the ethernet cable is attached. (...) Maybe you just need to tweak some options in your interfaces file (e.g., allow-hotplug?):

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-07 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 11:39 Tue 07 Jun , Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:10:48 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: The following is a problem I have on all laptops, I dont know how to configure to connect when the ethernet cable is attached. (...) Maybe you just need to tweak some options in your

laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-06 Thread Mitchell Laks
Hi, The following is a problem I have on all laptops, I dont know how to configure to connect when the ethernet cable is attached. I have an ibook laptop (it is a powerpc system running squeeze) and when i plug in the ethernet cord I find that I have to log into a terminal or console and

Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop

2011-06-06 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/07/11 at 12:10am, Mitchell Laks wrote: Hi, The following is a problem I have on all laptops, I dont know how to configure to connect when the ethernet cable is attached. I have an ibook laptop (it is a powerpc system running squeeze) and when i plug in the ethernet cord I find that