Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 03:21:14PM +0100 or thereabouts, Andrew Saunders wrote: > On 9/26/06, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >It's a non-issue. > > I agree. However much you might wish it, list policy is not determined > by plebiscite. Hi Andrew: Thanks for your comments. It should be,

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 03:35:27AM +0100 or thereabouts, Andrew Saunders wrote: > On 9/24/06, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Why don't such things ever get submitted for a vote, to see exactly > >where the membership stands on this ? > > I would guess that the vast majority of those who

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Seth Goodman
On Monday, September 25, 2006 8:08 PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > IIRC, the Debian lists are powered by mailman. Have they just > disabled this functionality, or is it a technical/political issue? If they use Mailman, there is a feature to allow users to determine whether they r

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 9/24/06, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why don't such things ever get submitted for a vote, to see exactly where the membership stands on this ? I would guess that the vast majority of those who post without being subscribed don't follow the list except to monitor follow-ups to their o

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500 or thereabouts, Seth Goodman wrote: > I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: > > 1) allow users to subscribe for posting only, > > 2) require users to subscribe before posting and > > 3) allow users to

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: > > I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: > > 1) allow users to subscribe for posting only, > IIRC, the Debian lists are powered by mailman. Have they just disabled this functional

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Seth Goodman
ndrei pointed in http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg01837.html that for an occasional poster to a high volume list, it is a burden to require them to receive all list traffic. It's not a problem when the list allows subscribing for posting only (i.e. majordomo 'nomail', Mailm

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-24 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:34 -0400, Stephen wrote: > One can endlessly debate the issue, but at the end of the day, if the > majority wish this to be implemented, then it should be done. The views of a > few, should never outweigh those of the majority, and it doesn't in the > slightest prevent pe

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-24 Thread Stephen
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 01:22:30PM -0500 or thereabouts, Seth Goodman wrote: > You are right in saying there is no apparent way to subscribe without > getting all the list traffic. Without this feature, it is impractical > to require that posters first confirm their email address. Why ? I don't

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-23 Thread Seth Goodman
On Friday, September 22, 2006 12:15 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: > "Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu > > wrote: > > > > > It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 > > > mails/day just for a simple answer.

re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-22 Thread celejar
On 9/22/06, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 mails/day > > just for a simple answer. > > There's no reason you h

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 mails/day > > just for a simple answer. > > There's no reason you have to receive list traffic. You can already do > thi

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Seth Goodman
On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: > It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 mails/day > just for a simple answer. There's no reason you have to receive list traffic. You can already do this if you subscribe via email. There is no reason the web

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:44 PM -0500, Matus UHLAR - fantomas > wrote: > > > I don't think that closing mailing lists is the right way to fight > against spam. > > The question is whether requirin

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Seth Goodman
On Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:44 PM -0500, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > I don't think that closing mailing lists is the right way to fight against spam. The question is whether requiring a user to answer one confirmation message before posting is any real burden. You have to send

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Stephen
t; > without needing to do that step. I don't buy the argument that it's too > > much of a hurdle to expect a newbie to debian to subscribe -- > > Subscribing to e-mail lists is done pretty much everywhere, so it's an > > expected task, by pretty much anyone usi

closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
urdle to expect a newbie to debian to subscribe -- > Subscribing to e-mail lists is done pretty much everywhere, so it's an > expected task, by pretty much anyone using them. I have already seen spammer subscribed to the mailing list just to push the spam into it. We may expect more, as

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-30 Thread Kevin Buhr
Kevin Buhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The final alternative is to employ ugly per-MUA hacks, like the > "use_from" Mutt option that Andrew mentioned. Whoops... It looks like Andrew's descriptions were a little mixed up. According to the Mutt manual, it isn't "use_from" that does this, it's "

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-30 Thread Kevin Buhr
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > When I send from thunderbird from any machine, it works as it is > connecting directly to santiago. If I use mutt on santiago, it works > fine there as well since it is running an instance of Postfix which can > be reached from the public intern

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 01:06:04PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > what does your "From" header look like? Is it supposed to show a > return address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would assume not, that it > should show a return address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] The point is, are > you setting your Fro

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
antiago (smarthost) -> Internet > > Now, miami runs postfix, but it is not accessible from the outside. > Now, when I am using mutt on miami, sending a message to the Sourceforge > mailing lists generates a reply like this to santiago (which acts as the > smarthost) since the Re

[OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-07 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
om the outside. Now, when I am using mutt on miami, sending a message to the Sourceforge mailing lists generates a reply like this to santiago (which acts as the smarthost) since the Return-Path is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aug 7 20:28:50 santiago postfix/smtp[11711]: 778272403E: to=, relay=extern

Re: Using real email addresses to mailing lists (was Re: securing an Ubuntu box in a shared office?)

2006-07-06 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
. Currently I am not having any problems with d-u. But I am having problems with other mailing lists like vim where I had to approve the new "from addresses" manually. More details at http://forums.bluebottle.com/index.php?showtopic=221 But this inconvenience is minor compared to going t

Using real email addresses to mailing lists (was Re: securing an Ubuntu box in a shared office?)

2006-07-06 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 05:40:12PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > But not everyone has the resources to run a dedicated mail server and > maintain > it. Many people use webmail such as gmail, yahoo, hotmail etc., What about > them? They should suffer by exposing their email address to the p

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-25 Thread T
On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:39:47 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> >>> Different mail to news gateways. The gmane.* heirarchy is generally >>> the best mail to news gateways. > > T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> 2nd to that. > > Sorry, what do you mean with `2nd to that'? (My

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-25 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > In my experience, it is possible to read and send messages to debian lists > in at least three ways: e.g., the present one: > via `debian-user' mailing list; through `linux.debian.user' newsgroup; > through `gmane.linux.debian.user' newsgrou

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-24 Thread T
On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:11:28 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 21 May 2006 09:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's >> original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID >> into a different value. > > Differen

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 21 May 2006 09:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's > original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID > into a different value. Different mail to news gateways. The gmane.* heirarchy is generally the bes

About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-21 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi, all. In my experience, it is possible to read and send messages to debian lists in at least three ways: e.g., the present one: via `debian-user' mailing list; through `linux.debian.user' newsgroup; through `gmane.linux.debian.user' newsgroup. Now, I realised that `gmane.li

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-03 Thread Bill Marcum
> I'm pretty sure you can post via news, at least on gmane.org, and am > testing it with this very message. > > -- > Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Thanks, > I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Here is a smaller sig... sorry... I didn't mean to annoy anyone... > Most sincerely, > > "For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that > whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting li

RE: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
3:16 GOD's Holy BIBLE -Original Message- From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:32 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Da

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Thanks, > I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not > lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... > I'll keep trying... If you're doing gmane.org, it's gmane.linux.debian.user Once you attempt your first p

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:34:33PM +0200, Martin A. Brooks wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >with all due respect, you must not send such lengthy signatures in > >your emails to this list. > > Andrew, you should also quote and trim properly when replying to list > email ;) point well take

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Martin A. Brooks
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: with all due respect, you must not send such lengthy signatures in your emails to this list. Andrew, you should also quote and trim properly when replying to list email ;) -- Martin A. Brooks | http://www.antibodymx.net/ | Anti-spam & anti-virus Consultant

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > Thanks, > I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not > lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... > I'll keep trying... > Most sincerely, with all due respect, you m

View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Thanks, I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... I'll keep trying... Most sincerely, Love is very patient and kind, never jealous or envious, never boastful or proud, never haughty or

forward newsgroup messages to mailing lists

2006-04-03 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Hi all My actual problem is to forward the messages that appear in news groups http://groups.google.com/group/cornell.marketplace/ http://groups.google.com/group/ithaca.marketplace/ http://groups.google.com/group/ithaca.general/ etc., to a mailing list http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-baz

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Florian Kulzer: [...] generated garbage addresses. I recall seeing quite sophisticated implementations of this, in which an "invisible" (for normal users) link on a webpage leads email harvesting robots into a maze of dynamically generated bogus pages full of t

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-19 Thread s. keeling
ress as the > forged sender, my email address will end up on public display on one > more web page, your "Poison The Well" project page. This in turn I should say here that, as my personal philosophy on spam goes, "munging", or otherwise hiding your email address, is essen

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Florian Kulzer: s. keeling wrote: [...] Consider joining my (ad hoc) "Poison The Well" project: http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html Maybe I misunderstand what you are doing, but aren't you increasing the spam load for people whose real email addres

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:51:20PM -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > Thirdly, it also hides the email addresses from which I receive the > email. I always have to click on "More options" to see brief headers. > For some reason I like to see the email addresses (brief headers) from > which I re

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-18 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > On forums.debian.net, people should be redirected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > when they don't get an answer there, because debian-user has more > 'powerusers' than forums.debian.net. The audiences of both support > resources are reasonably separate, because people tend to either swear > by forums

[OT] Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated?

2006-03-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Kelly Clowers: > [?]: > > 3) But since gmail's conversation view is not very convenient to read a > > Just out of curiosity, what do you find inconvenient about gmail's interface? Based on your reply, it apparently encourages one to lose attributions. -- Any technology distinguis

[OT] Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from kamaraju kusumanchi: > Kelly Clowers wrote: > > > >>3) But since gmail's conversation view is not very convenient to read a > > > >Just out of curiosity, what do you find inconvenient about gmail's > >interface? > >For me, gmail is the best interface I have found for reading d-u. >

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread Michael Marsh
On 3/18/06, kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Q: what's wrong with Gmail?] > For starters, it encourages the use of top posting by placing the cursor > at the begining of the message instead of placing the cursor at the end > of the message - like thunderbird does. Ideally they can gi

[OT] Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums? Related ?

2006-03-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Willie Wonka: > Please trim extraneous text next time. > subscribing to it, thinking it was necessary to join/post on this list > (linux.debian.user) > > This is the list -->> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<-- They are the gatekeepers of the Usenet _newsgroups_ linux.debian.* (and perhaps o

[OT] Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated?

2006-03-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Håkon Alstadheim: > s. keeling wrote: > >Incoming from Florian Kulzer: > >>s. keeling wrote: > >>> > >>>Consider joining my (ad hoc) "Poison The Well" project: > >>> > >>>http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html > >> > >>sender address by the spammers? How do you make sure not to i

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums? Related ?

2006-03-18 Thread Willie Wonka
net and other mailing lists such as debian-user for example. > > [...] > > This could be a real problem in the long run if the procedure is > > adopted by many. For example, a user searching the archives in > > forums.debian.net might not find the answer even though

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Kelly Clowers wrote: 3) But since gmail's conversation view is not very convenient to read a high volume mailing list such as d-u, pop the emails into your favorite client such as thunderbird Just out of curiosity, what do you find inconvenient about gmail's interface? For me, gmail is th

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Florian Kulzer: s. keeling wrote: Consider joining my (ad hoc) "Poison The Well" project: http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html Maybe I misunderstand what you are doing, but aren't you increasing the spam load for people whose real email a

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread Kelly Clowers
> 3) But since gmail's conversation view is not very convenient to read a > high volume mailing list such as d-u, pop the emails into your favorite > client such as thunderbird Just out of curiosity, what do you find inconvenient about gmail's interface? For me, gmail is the best interface I have

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Florian Kulzer: > s. keeling wrote: > >Incoming from Hex Star: > > > >>[snip] > >>contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other > >>lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like >

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Hex Star: [snip] contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc) it's fully displayed in its original f

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread Hex Star
y email address gets harvested by even more spam bots...and btw, how could people not like gmails conversation model? :P I love it, especially for mailing lists because it makes following the postings really easy, just click the first post in the mailing list "thread" in the gmail webmail i

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Hex Star: > [snip] > contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other > lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like > user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc) it's fully displayed in its > original form

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Hex Star wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in the archive of this list, the posts I made publicly contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc)

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-18 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:13:44AM -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: >I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to feel that > users are getting confused between multiple forms of support available - > forums.debian.net and other mailing lists such as debian-user fo

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-18 Thread Hex Star
all > > > I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to> > > feel that> > > users are getting confused between multiple forms of support> > > available - > > > forums.debian.net <http://forums.debian.net> and other mailing&

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
/17/06, *kamaraju kusumanchi* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all > > > I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to > > > feel that > > > users are getting c

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-17 Thread Hex Star
IL PROTECTED] >> wrote:>> Hi all> I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to> feel that> users are getting confused between multiple forms of support> available - > forums.debian.net <http://forums.debian.net> and other m

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-17 Thread Hex Star
sts I made> > publicly contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated > > like on other lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive> > to something like user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc) it's> > fully displayed in its original form

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-17 Thread Tim Connors
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:40:14 -0800: > Hex Star wrote: > > > Hi, I've noticed that in the archive of this list, the posts I made > > publicly contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated > > like on

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-17 Thread Marc Shapiro
Hex Star wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in the archive of this list, the posts I made publicly contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc)

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-17 Thread Marc Shapiro
ED]>> wrote: Hi all I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to feel that users are getting confused between multiple forms of support available - forums.debian.net <http://forums.debian.net> and other mailing lists such as debian-user for exam

Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-17 Thread Hex Star
Hi, I've noticed that in the archive of this list, the posts I made publicly contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc) it's fully di

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-17 Thread Hex Star
re but I am starting to feel that users are getting confused between multiple forms of support available -forums.debian.net and other mailing lists such as debian-user for example.For example, recently a post is made to debian-user http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/03/msg01447.htmland the same

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-17 Thread Hex Star
allI might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to feel thatusers are getting confused between multiple forms of support available -forums.debian.net and other mailing lists such as debian-user for example. For example, recently a post is made to debian-userhttp://lists.debian.org/de

users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-17 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Hi all I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to feel that users are getting confused between multiple forms of support available - forums.debian.net and other mailing lists such as debian-user for example. For example, recently a post is made to debian-user http

Re: debian lists subscription options

2006-03-16 Thread Jacob S
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:12:29 +0530 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to subscribe to debian-* mailing lists with mail > delivery turned off? No, but you can post if you're not subscribed. HTH, Jacob -BE

debian lists subscription options

2006-03-16 Thread riteshsarraf
Hi, Is there a way to subscribe to debian-* mailing lists with mail delivery turned off? Thanks, Ritesh -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf RESEARCHUT -- http://www.researchut.com "Necessity is the mother of invention" "Stealing logics from one person is plagiarism, stealing from many is researchut"

Re: RE: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2006-01-29 Thread samgamgee
i certainly hope so -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

2006-01-17 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 15:22:25 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 06:46:48PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [...] > > > > I'm not too big a fan of too many surveys... but that's my personal > > opinion. > > > > Johannes > > > > Actually, prior to OP message showi

Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

2006-01-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 06:46:48PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > >SkSowe wrote: > > > >>Dear participant, > >> > >>We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing > >>lists (Kde, Mentor

Debian Mailing Lists Survey

2006-01-17 Thread SkSowe
Title: E-mail message content Dear participant,   We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing lists (Kde, Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives http://lists.debian.org/. Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these lists during the

Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

2006-01-17 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: SkSowe wrote: Dear participant, We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing lists (Kde, Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives http://lists.debian.org/. Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these lists

Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

2006-01-17 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
SkSowe wrote: Dear participant, We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing lists (Kde, Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives http://lists.debian.org/. Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these lists during the period January 2001

Debian Mailing Lists Survey

2006-01-17 Thread SkSowe
Title: E-mail message content Dear participant,   We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing lists (Kde, Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives http://lists.debian.org/. Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these lists during the

Re: HTML e-mail and mailing lists

2005-11-17 Thread Realos
> Mitch Wiedemann wanted us to know: >On the topic mentioned above, I find HTML e-mail useful sometimes, but I >wouldn't send it to an e-mail list unless it was a generally accepted >practice on the specific list. Some people use text based MUAs that do not support html. Thus I think we should be

HTML e-mail and mailing lists

2005-11-16 Thread Mitch Wiedemann
Jon Dowland wrote: >On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 01:29:23PM +0100, privacy.at Anonymous Remailer wrote: > > >>And it has no place on this (or any other) mailing list. >>E-mail should be sent in plain text only. >> >> > >I don't agree, entirely. Email is a convenient transport mechanism for >many

Smartlist vacation, lists gateways

2005-11-02 Thread Chema
ation, which is what I always prefer for high volume lists anyway, since I prefer to Google Group such lists. I had a quick try to find out how to do it in a Smartlist before vacation, but my only results were: Smartlist uses X-Commands (simple additions to the mail headers I supose) to interact

Fwd: how to use mailing lists

2005-09-19 Thread Sergio Cuéllar Valdés
2005/9/18, linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > is it just me or is this mailing list useless? > i posted my question ages ago and have recieved nothing but heaps of > responses to other questions that i don't understand > are mailing lists meant to work like this? how do i get

Re: how to use mailing lists

2005-09-19 Thread Fritz Brown
Mailing lists are an inefficient way to get an answer to a single question because you will get loads (I'm on 1,000 since I signed on here) of responses to things that don't even remotely relate to your question. However, it is also a GREAT way to really get into a subject. And, to

Re: how to use mailing lists

2005-09-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 18 September 2005 09:21 pm, linux wrote: > is it just me or is this mailing list useless? It's you. > i posted my question ages ago and have recieved nothing but heaps of > responses to other questions that i don't understand are mailing lists meant > to work l

Re: how to use mailing lists

2005-09-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 02:21:16PM +1000, linux wrote: > is it just me or is this mailing list useless? i posted my question > ages ago and have recieved nothing but heaps of responses to other > questions that i don't understand are mailing lists meant to work like > this? ho

Re: how to use mailing lists

2005-09-19 Thread Jochen Schulz
linux: > > is it just me or is this mailing list useless? It's probably not just you, but for the majority of subscribers it is not useless. :) > i posted my question ages ago and have recieved nothing but heaps of > responses to other questions that i don't understand >

Re: how to use mailing lists

2005-09-18 Thread Robert Kopp
--- linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is it just me or is this mailing list useless? > i posted my question ages ago and have recieved > nothing but heaps of > responses to other questions that i don't understand > are mailing lists meant to work like this? how

how to use mailing lists

2005-09-18 Thread linux
is it just me or is this mailing list useless? i posted my question ages ago and have recieved nothing but heaps of responses to other questions that i don't understand are mailing lists meant to work like this? how do i get better results out of this mailing list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: last -t lists all entries in wtmp

2005-07-22 Thread michael
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 13:03 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > On 2005-07-22 @ 00:13:38 (week 29) michael wrote: > > > I think it's a question of interpretation of the man pages. To me it > > seems that '-x' *also* gives the runlevel info; and that '-t' gives all > > entries *up to* a date (as opposed

Re: last -t lists all entries in wtmp

2005-07-22 Thread J.A. de Vries
On 2005-07-22 @ 00:13:38 (week 29) michael wrote: > I think it's a question of interpretation of the man pages. To me it > seems that '-x' *also* gives the runlevel info; and that '-t' gives all > entries *up to* a date (as opposed to since or on that date) Here's the two relevant excerpts fr

Re: last -t lists all entries in wtmp

2005-07-21 Thread michael
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 23:03 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > Hi, > > For a monitor script I thought I'd use the -t switch of the last command > hoping to get only the latest entries from wtmp. Seems there's something > wrong there, since it will return all entries in wtmp regardless. Before > I submi

Re: Error Reading Package Lists

2005-06-11 Thread Jochen Schulz
Strake: > > Thx, it worked. I think I'll go download sarge now :D You don't need to download an installation CD and reinstall from scratch. Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change entries with 'woody' to 'sarge'. Then run 'aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade'. You might want to read

Re: Error Reading Package Lists

2005-06-11 Thread Marty
, and it gave me this error: Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occurred while processing pkcipe (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-1386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not

Re: Error Reading Package Lists

2005-06-11 Thread Strake
Thx, it worked. I think I'll go download sarge now :D On 6/11/05, Maurits van Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:52:28AM -0400, Strake wrote: > > E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room > > That should be solved by specifying the 'Cache-Limit' for > apt in /etc/apt/apt.conf, e.

Re: Error Reading Package Lists

2005-06-11 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:52:28AM -0400, Strake wrote: > E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room That should be solved by specifying the 'Cache-Limit' for apt in /etc/apt/apt.conf, e.g. like this: echo 'APT::Cache-Limit "2000";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf (Or edit that file manually.) > I'm running 3.0

Error Reading Package Lists

2005-06-11 Thread Strake
this error: Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occurred while processing pkcipe (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-1386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or

Re: [OT] Re: how do you protect from spammers in Debian lists?

2005-05-24 Thread David Jardine
ad was about the reject messages I didn't get. If the > > Peoria Inter-Denominational College of Neo-Tibetan Goldfish Juggling > > received thirty of my dollops of spam, who else was getting them and > > was I being put on blacklists by, well, "clueless mail

Re: [OT] Re: how do you protect from spammers in Debian lists?

2005-05-23 Thread s. keeling
d bandwidth. > The worry I had was about the reject messages I didn't get. If the > Peoria Inter-Denominational College of Neo-Tibetan Goldfish Juggling > received thirty of my dollops of spam, who else was getting them and > was I being put on blacklists by, well, "clueles

Re: [OT] Re: how do you protect from spammers in Debian lists?

2005-05-23 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Larry Felton Johnson: > keep the folks in my work group > amused with a "Spam of the Week" posting, often involving the stream I recently stumbled across a thread on my local user group list where victims were holding "dick wars" over the highest SA scores they've seen ("mine's bigg

Re: [OT] Re: how do you protect from spammers in Debian lists?

2005-05-23 Thread David Jardine
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 04:43:43PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from David Jardine: > > > > What worries me is the spam that is sent out under my name. Just > > I get bounces from clueless mail admins all the time. If they'd spend > two seconds scanning the original's Received: headers,

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