Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:00:25PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > To use L I have to define the mailing lists I am subscribed to, this > causes mutt to do weird things (I don't remember exactly what, but it > might have shown debi

mutt list handling (was Re: netiquette: CCing on lists)

2003-10-29 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:00:25PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: | On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:38:45AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: | > Shouldn't you be hitting the L key in mutt, for 'reply-to-list' instead | > of g for 'reply-to-all'... Yes, he should. | To use L I h

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:36:06PM +, Richard Kimber wrote: | On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:10:57 +0800 "David Palmer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Sylpheed has 'reply to > all | > sender | > mailing list' | > | > option that works for me. |

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 07:51:09AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > >I like getting CCs. I receive hundreds of mailing list mail a day and > >might not be able to check up on all of them every day, but I make sure > >to check my main inbox, that way I can see if anybody replied t

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Richard Kimber
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:10:57 +0800 "David Palmer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sylpheed has 'reply to > all > sender > mailing list' > > option that works for me. But setting Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as you seem to have done, pr

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
d > of g for 'reply-to-all'... > Especially considering that the code of conduct for the list: > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct > says "When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a > carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unl

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2003 16:18, Bijan Soleymani wrote: I like getting CCs. I receive hundreds of mailing list mail a day and might not be able to check up on all of them every day, but I make sure to check my main inbox, that way I can see if anybody replied to anything

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Lou Losee
* Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-29 11:32]: > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > >I hit the g key in mutt. It usually does do CCs. I'm told that there is > >a header that people can set to request no CCs. I think you mentionned > >something along those lines. I am pretty sure mutt respects that. I >

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
t epidemic levels on debian-user? | | I don't find it bad, since the debian- mailing lists are configured | well. It's rampant on the postgresql- lists, where Reply All and | Reply To List produce identical results. In that situation, mutt's set ignore_list_reply_to = yes # fix

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Bijan Soleymani wrote: I like getting CCs. I receive hundreds of mailing list mail a day and might not be able to check up on all of them every day, but I make sure to check my main inbox, that way I can see if anybody replied to anything I said. But how does this translate into being good to s

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Bijan Soleymani wrote: I hit the g key in mutt. It usually does do CCs. I'm told that there is a header that people can set to request no CCs. I think you mentionned something along those lines. I am pretty sure mutt respects that. I think most of the CCs you are receiving are from borken mail-clie

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:12:49AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:36:47PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > > > Upon reading this, I have to agree with you -- having a supposedly > > private message sent to the list could range from mildly annoying to > > outrageous

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 16:18, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > I like getting CCs. I receive hundreds of mailing list mail a day and > might not be able to check up on all of them every day, but I make > sure to check my main inbox, that way I can see if anybody replied to > anything I said. Yup, th

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 07:44:52PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:12:28PM -0500, David Gaudine wrote: > > With this mail program (the default Mac mail program, which I've not > > used much), when I click "reply" it's your address that gets used. > > I manually changed it in

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
for over an hour, but CC's arrive almost instantaneously. The extra bandwidth consumed is very small. On the order of 10 extra emails over the hundreds I already get each day. Also for some lists (not debian-user yet) I use gmane where I read and write to the list through a news interface. In that ca

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
t; > camps, but I have now settled for the "harmful" camp. I've been to > > too many mailing lists with reply-tos, and what you get is a lot of > > mis-sent private messages, and then a lot of "sorry, didn't mean > > that", flame-wars over comme

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:57:42AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:14:15AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:03:05PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > > Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the > > > technical ability to setup

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Ron Jr
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 07:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:14:15AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:03:05PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: [snip] > > Is CC'ing at epidemic levels on debian-user? I don't find it bad, since

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread moseley
olicy) and thus think it's my problem dealing with it. Especially on a list like debian-user where there's no subscription required, there's lots of newbie posters, and people come and go often. I run a few small, stable lists (a hundred or so people each) and even there it's impossible

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:57:26 -0800, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > You have a point. However, I usually make an exception in the case > > of newbies becuase they may not receive list messages (because of > > Yahoo! or Hotmail sp

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:03:05PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > Monique Y. Herman said on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700: > > I put a comment in my sig requesting that I not receive CCs, and I > > swear that the number of CCs I received actually increased! > > > > What can I do that will c

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
specific "reply-to-list" function. In those mail > clients, the user only has the choice of "reply" or "reply-to-all". These are considered harmful for use on mailing lists. File a bug. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 05:12:42PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > mutt is _very_ powerful; at this point I use enough of its advanced > features and have enough keystrokes ingrained in my fingers that I > can't really handle mail (certainly not

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 10:37:49PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > And another thing: all those spamassassin headers are resent to the list. > Seems a waste of bandwidth... Murphy is running spamassassin, IIRC. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:12:28PM -0500, David Gaudine wrote: > With this mail program (the default Mac mail program, which I've not > used much), when I click "reply" it's your address that gets used. > I manually changed it in my earlier followup (s

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread David Palmer.
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:28:12 -0600 Ron Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 17:10, David Palmer. wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:37:49 +0100 > > Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Hrm

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Ron Jr
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 17:10, David Palmer. wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:37:49 +0100 > Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > [...] > > > Hrm.. Does debian-user not set the reply-to to the list, or is this my > > [...] [snip

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto Sanchez wrote: You have a point. However, I usually make an exception in the case of newbies becuase they may not receive list messages (because of Yahoo! or Hotmail spam filtering for such accounts). I know I had this problem when I first subscribed to the list. But otherwise, I tend to

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Steve Lamb wrote: Mark Ferlatte wrote: Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical ability to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I don't understand choose not to do so and instead depend upon the charity of the mailing list posters to cater to their reply whim

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
s the same kind of annoyance that spam was, what, 7 years ago? "Oh, just hit delete every now and again..." Rude is rude. The other part is, like it or not, on these lists it is also a matter of accepted conduct codified on the web page people should read before subscribing. So

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 04:51:14PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > You don't have to, the onus is on them to ask, explicitly, in the body > of the message that they want a CC. If they don't ask and you don't send > that is their problem. But sending a CC unasked you're causing unasked >

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Monique Y. Herman said on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 05:00:29PM -0700: > Something about slrn not handling quoted-printable multi-part messages > properly, I believe. I don't know the meaning of what I just said, but > that's what I've been told. I guess I could write a vim script to clean > it up on r

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 13:30 Subject: Re: netiquette: CCing on lists > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 19:12 GMT, David Gaudine penned: > > > > On Tuesday, O

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Monique Y. Herman wrote: For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why do you do this? Is there some benefit to doing so of which I'm unaware? None. They just like breaking the CoC for these mailing lists. <http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct&

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Mark Ferlatte wrote: Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical ability to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I don't understand choose not to do so and instead depend upon the charity of the mailing list posters to cater to their reply whims. This, to me, seems

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Bill Moseley wrote: I cc, but luckily my mailer mutt understands what you want. That's good because I can't keep track of what the hundreds (thousands?) of people on this list wish, and not all of them have smart mailers to set the Mail-Followup-To header. You don't have to, the onus is on the

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 23:38 GMT, Mark Ferlatte penned: > >=20 Whoa. Where did all of those `=3D' chars come from? Dunno. I see them on some of the messages I receive. And then again just now in the text you quoted. Something about slrn not handling quoted-printable multi-part messages proper

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 23:19 GMT, Bill Moseley penned: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a >> rant or flame ... >> >> For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, >> why do

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
o the list, or is >> > this my >> [...] Apparently not. I wonder why not. It would surely be a good >> idea - for those using simpler mail clients. I use kmail and filter >> lists direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list >> address to try to prevent mys

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:36:47PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: | But then I have to ask -- do some clients automagically CC the poster, | or are people going to the trouble of CCing manually? I forget who already mentioned it this time around, but it is automatic. Some mail clients aren't cu

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Monique Y. Herman said on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:41:56PM -0700: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 22:03 GMT, Mark Ferlatte penned: > [snip] > > > > Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the > > technical abi= lity to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I > > don't understand choo

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant > or flame ... > > For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why > do you do this? Is there some benefit to doing so of which I'm

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread David Palmer.
ld surely be a good idea - for > those using simpler mail clients. I use kmail and filter lists direct to > their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent > myself making mistakes... > > À propos, I've been thinking of giving mutt a try: can

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 22:03 GMT, Mark Ferlatte penned: [snip] > > Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the > technical abi= lity to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I > don't understand choose not = to do so and instead depend upon the > charity of the mailing list p

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 22:18 GMT, Kjetil Kjernsmo penned: > > I can't agree. For a review of the opposing viewpoints, see > http://marc.merlins.org/perso/listreplyto.html I've been in both > camps, but I have now settled for the "harmful" camp. I've been t

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 22:37, Richard Lyons wrote: > Apparently not.  I wonder why not.  It would surely be a good idea  - > for those using simpler mail clients.  I use kmail and filter lists > direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to > try to pr

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
se using simpler mail clients. If the tool doesn't work, get one that does. It's not like options aren't available or are overpriced. | I use kmail and filter lists direct to | their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent | myself making mistakes... |

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Erik Steffl
lists direct to their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent myself making mistakes... À propos, I've been thinking of giving mutt a try: can it do that too? yes, you can set up a list of list email addresses and then hit (IIRC) L to reply to the list

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Monique Y. Herman said on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700: > I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant > or flame ... Huzzah! Polite questions are gold. > For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why > do you do this? Is there some

RE: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Joyce, Matthew
ply' in Outlook 2002, it will have your email addy, if I click 'reply to all' it will have the debian-user addy too. I am on other lists, and 'reply' will use the list address for them. Those messages have, among others, the following headers set to the posting address for

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread p
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:34:25AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant > or flame ... > > For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why > do you do this? Is there some benefit to doing so of which I'm

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Clive Menzies
se using simpler mail clients. I use kmail and filter lists direct to > their own folders, where I set the reply-to-list address to try to prevent > myself making mistakes... > > À propos, I've been thinking of giving mutt a try: can it do that too? I don't think I coul

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:30, Monique Y. Herman wrote: [...] > Hrm.. Does debian-user not set the reply-to to the list, or is this my [...] Apparently not. I wonder why not. It would surely be a good idea - for those using simpler mail clients. I use kmail and filter lists direct

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 19:12 GMT, David Gaudine penned: > > On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > I believe I have the Mail-Followup-To header set on my outgoing > > messages, which should be a clue for some readers. (I was told that > > gmane would translate M

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread David Gaudine
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I believe I have the Mail-Followup-To header set on my outgoing > messages, which should be a clue for some readers. (I was told that > gmane would translate Mail-Copies-To to Mail-Followup-To automagically.) With this mail pr

netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
I'm going to attempt to make this a polite question, rather than a rant or flame ... For those of you who CC people when responding to the mailing list, why do you do this? Is there some benefit to doing so of which I'm unaware? I believe I have the Mail-Followup-To header set on my outgoing mes

Re: Please permanently block *@lists.debian.org from your mailing lists: [info@bairestrade.com: canned peach in syrup x 850 grs.]

2003-10-21 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:34:50AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Bairestrade: > > Someone is apparently subscribing one or more mailing lists at > @lists.debian.org to your mailing lists. These relate to a > computer-related project, the Debian GNU/Linux distribution, which ha

Please permanently block *@lists.debian.org from your mailing lists: [info@bairestrade.com: canned peach in syrup x 850 grs.]

2003-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
Bairestrade: Someone is apparently subscribing one or more mailing lists at @lists.debian.org to your mailing lists. These relate to a computer-related project, the Debian GNU/Linux distribution, which has no interest in your mailing lists. This has been reported to several spam reporting

Re: Questions about using the mailing lists

2003-10-08 Thread J Y
m the list several times.So you're not the only one this happens to. Maybe someone will look into what's really happening? Quoting Yuen Sum Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear everyone, > > I have used the debian mailing lists using yahoo mail services as the > emai

Questions about using the mailing lists

2003-10-07 Thread Yuen Sum Ng
Dear everyone,       I have used the debian mailing lists using yahoo mail services as the email account receiving the mails for several months. However, a fewer weeks ago, I cannot receive any mails from debian-user mailing lists. I do not know why this happen, but i have not accidentially set

unsubscribe from lists

2003-09-30 Thread David Hartman
Kim "A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men." ~Willy Wonka "There's a little witch in all of us" - Practical Magic I'm not a Bad Witch, I'm a Grumpy Witch <>

Re: Bug#206959: debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:17:47AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > This means e.g. gmane.org users will get a copy of each message, even > though they've already read them. No, it doesn't. Try thinking about what it means when the web page says "This list is not moderated, posting is allowed to anyon

Re: debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Travis Crump
Travis Crump wrote: Dan Jacobson wrote: I was surprised to find that some debian lists require a subscription to post, but have no "nomail" option. Umm, which debian lists require a subscription in order to post? never mind, I figured it out(some==2, debian-chinese-(big5|gb) and d

Re: debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Travis Crump
Dan Jacobson wrote: I was surprised to find that some debian lists require a subscription to post, but have no "nomail" option. Umm, which debian lists require a subscription in order to post? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

debian lists have no nomail option

2003-08-25 Thread Dan Jacobson
I was surprised to find that some debian lists require a subscription to post, but have no "nomail" option. This means e.g. gmane.org users will get a copy of each message, even though they've already read them. For modem users, for the privilege of posting one message, one mus

bounced mail & mailing lists ???

2003-07-06 Thread Michael D. Schleif
My web hosting service lost the aliases file, and mail was bounced back to senders for user unknown. It is fixed now; but, I am unclear on mailing list response to this situation? Will the bounced messages be re-sent? Are they lost forever? What do you think? -- Best Regards, mds mds resourc

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail (solved)

2003-06-24 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 04:53:34PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Thanks Derrick, your directions were a great help. | | The weirdest thing is that Netscape seems to tell IMAP daemon | where folders are, I think. Yes, that's the way the IMAP protocol is defined. | I only entered the IMAP dire

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imapmail (solved)

2003-06-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Derrick, your directions were a great help. The weirdest thing is that Netscape seems to tell IMAP daemon where folders are, I think. I only entered the IMAP directory in Netscape and then the IMAP daemon somehow picked this up and started serving the files that I had placed in that directo

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-19 Thread Joseph Zaino
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:31:36PM +0200, Dennis Stosberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: J?rgen A.Erhard wrote: What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to automatically sort mails from mailing lists. Just two days ago Sascha Andre

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:31:36PM +0200, Dennis Stosberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > J?rgen A.Erhard wrote: > > > What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to > > automatically sort mails from mailing lists. > > Just two days ago Sascha A

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail

2003-06-18 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:36PM -0700, J F wrote: | root:/var/log# pwd | /var/log | root:/var/log# egrep imap daemon.log | ... | Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: connect from a1700xp.ebeb.com | Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/imapd: | No such file or d

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imapmail

2003-06-16 Thread J F
root:/var/log# pwd /var/log root:/var/log# egrep imap daemon.log ... Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: connect from a1700xp.ebeb.com Jun 16 17:49:23 a1700xp imapd[978]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/imapd: No such file or directory root:/var/log#apt-get update root:/var/log#apt-get

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail

2003-06-16 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 01:01:38PM -0700, J F wrote: | It even responds sort of: | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# telnet 10.0.0.9 143 | Trying 10.0.0.9... | Connected to 10.0.0.9. | Escape character is '^]'. | ((It pauses a few seconds and then)) | Connection closed by foreign host. Apparently something

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-15 Thread Will Trillich
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:22:37AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 05:58:50PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > > Try this to identify all the Debian mailing lists in one whack: > > > > # Debian lists ... > > :0: > > * ^X-Mailing-List: .*[<[EMAI

Re: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imapmail

2003-06-14 Thread J F
ew knoppix hard disk install. Thanks in advance, J F J F wrote: Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail. ~$ mail Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001. Type ? for help. "/var/mail/jf": 118 messages 118 new >N 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jun 14 11:52 192/12701 Time

Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail

2003-06-14 Thread J F
Mail lists lots of headers but mozilla does not see any imap mail. ~$ mail Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001. Type ? for help. "/var/mail/jf": 118 messages 118 new >N 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jun 14 11:52 192/12701 Time Sensitive Information Regarding your ATTBI E-mail Account ... I

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-05 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 05:58:50PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > So they do... The other List headers are included. Oh well... > > Try this to identify all the Debian mailing lists in one whack: > > # Debian l

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-05 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > So they do... The other List headers are included. Oh well... Try this to identify all the Debian mailing lists in one whack: # Debian lists ... :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: .*[<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] * ^X-Mailing-List: .*[<]

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-05 Thread Dennis Stosberg
Jürgen A.Erhard wrote: > What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to > automatically sort mails from mailing lists. Just two days ago Sascha Andres has announced on [EMAIL PROTECTED] that he started to host a list of procmail recipes for mailing lists. At the m

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:21:08PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add > > > > List-Id? If so, where

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 04:04:16AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > Er... is debian-user using List-Id? I don't seem to be able to locate it > > in the headers... Might be my eyes, of

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add > > > List-Id? If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their > > > respective authors? > > >

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:40:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > Er... is debian-user using List-Id? I don't seem to be able to locate it > in the headers... Might be my eyes, of course, ;-) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78237 They

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:41:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add > > List-Id? If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their > > respective authors? > > When you find a list that doesn't, point out the RFC and ask the list > o

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:43:59PM +0200, J?rgen A.Erhard wrote: > What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to > automatically sort mails from mailing lists. I use, in order of preference, the List-id, X-Mailing-Li

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Mark
MLMs and their > > respective authors? > > You could try this. I'd bet that most popular MLMs already have > wishlist bugs to support RFC2919, but if you find any that don't it's > probably a good idea to file one. > > btw, I filter debian lis

Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
ir > respective authors? You could try this. I'd bet that most popular MLMs already have wishlist bugs to support RFC2919, but if you find any that don't it's probably a good idea to file one. btw, I filter debian lists via X-Mailing-List: . good times, Vineet -- http://www.door

How to Identify Mailing Lists

2003-06-04 Thread Jürgen A . Erhard
Hi list. [Please CC: me on list replies, I'm too far behind in ML traffic. Thank you.] I've googled every which way I can, but I didn't find it. "It" being a list of identifying markers for various mailing lists. What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filte

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-31 Thread moseley
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 10:04:32AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > Not a doc bug -- that part of the documentation is immediately > created from the relevant program code. But, of course, the Debian > package may unset use_domain in the systemwide configuration file > /etc/Muttrc. That's exactly

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2003-05-29 14:24:38 -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: > And to follow up to my own post. Mutt 1.5.4i (2003-03-19) does > not set $use_domain yes by default. The docs say: > use_domain > Type: boolean > Default: yes > When set, Mutt will qualify all local addresses (ones without the @host > porti

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-29-03 18:36]: > On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:39:13PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > > > The logic for the mail-followup-to header is a little more > > complicated, and involves both subscribed and known lists. > > > > F

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 01:40:51PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: > On a related note: I noticed that my reply had: > > Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > Debian users list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mutt users list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is not my address. > >

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Bill Moseley
On a related note: I noticed that my reply had: Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian users list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mutt users list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is not my address. I didn't have $hostname set in my .muttrc so I assume it set the Mail-Followup-

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:39:13PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > The logic for the mail-followup-to header is a little more > complicated, and involves both subscribed and known lists. > > First of all, mutt will only generate a mail-followup-to header if > (1) the $followup_t

Re: lists vs. subscribe (was Re: mutt to follow discussions.)

2003-05-30 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2003-05-25 13:23:32 -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: > I'm trying to figure this out myself. In particular, it looks > like there might be a bug in either the documentation or (I hope) > mutt 1.4. The documentation says that the ~l pattern matches > messages to known lists (anyt

Re: apt-get: Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-02-04 Thread Russell
Joel Alexandre wrote: can someone please tell me why this is happening? apt-get update; Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing courier-ssl (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt

apt-get: Reading Package Lists... Error!

2003-02-04 Thread Joel Alexandre
can someone please tell me why this is happening? apt-get update; Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing courier-ssl (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists

Re: Removed from lists due to email errors.

2003-01-13 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 12:37:35PM -0800, Xavian-Anderson Macpherson wrote: > "Your mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], has been removed > from the following mailing lists, because it generated an > exessive number of bounced mails:" bounced messages are normally not generated b

Removed from lists due to email errors.

2003-01-12 Thread Xavian-Anderson Macpherson
"Your mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], has been removed from the following mailing lists, because it generated an exessive number of bounced mails:" Someone else mention the same thing to me before, but I have no idea what is causing it or how to fix it. I have no idea what I may hav

Re: Inn2 shows empty LISTs after upgrade to Woody

2002-10-07 Thread Iain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Iain.) writes: > I'm finding that INN is returning empty replies to requests for lists > in /var/lib/news/, like active and newsgroups. It does however list > stuff in /etc/news like overview.fmt and motd. No takers? Oh well - I'll have to purge it and try

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