Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-26 Thread David Christensen
On 4/26/22 15:04, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:56:50 -0700 David Christensen wrote: On 4/25/22 07:18, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700 David Christensen wrote: Rather than a Live Linux distribution for troubleshooting, I install Debian onto a

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-26 Thread Charles Curley
Update. I had a friend with a power supply checker check the power supply. The +12 volt line is running at 11.5v, barely within spec. Fishy, but livable for the nonce. I had been running Finnix as Debian wouldn't boot. I pulled all the external USB lines except for a 3.5" external floppy disk

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-25 Thread David Christensen
On 4/25/22 07:18, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700 David Christensen wrote: So, RAID 5 HDD's are sda, sdc, and sdd, and optical is sdb? Optical is sr0. Interesting. (Must be the SATA controller expansion card?) sda is an SSD with all the system, /home, etc.

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:47:50 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > I will assume all three HDD's are the same make and model, per > smartctl(8) report below. Nope. Two WD Reds, as the report indicates, but not bought at the same time so likely to be different in detail. One Seagate Ironwolf. > >>

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > So, RAID 5 HDD's are sda, sdc, and sdd, and optical is sdb? Optical is sr0. sda is an SSD with all the system, /home, etc. md0 is mounted at /crc. > > > You do have a backup of your Debian system configuration files and > your

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread David Christensen
On 4/24/22 17:10, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:08:03 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. RAID has not yet failed the errant drive. Just now, via ssh into finnix: root@0:~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [linear]

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread David Christensen
On 4/24/22 15:37, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 14:07:14 -0700 David Christensen wrote: On 4/24/22 12:08, Charles Curley wrote: I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. What is the make and model of your motherboard? ASUS H97M-E I'd call that a multimedia desktop

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:08:03 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. RAID has not yet failed the errant drive. Just now, via ssh into finnix: root@0:~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid10]

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 14:07:14 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 4/24/22 12:08, Charles Curley wrote: > > I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. > > > What is the make and model of your motherboard? RAID HDD's? ASUS H97M-E > > > How is the motherboard connected to the HDD's? SATA.

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread David Christensen
On 4/24/22 12:08, Charles Curley wrote: I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. This morning my motherboard went wonky and crashed. USB devices on the motherboard are acting up. I cannot reboot to Debian. I can, however, boot to finnix 120. Using that, I have fscked all partitions, including

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hello Charles On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 01:08:03PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. This morning my motherboard > went wonky and crashed. USB devices on the motherboard are acting up. I > cannot reboot to Debian. I can, however, boot to finnix 120. Using >

Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Charles Curley
I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. This morning my motherboard went wonky and crashed. USB devices on the motherboard are acting up. I cannot reboot to Debian. I can, however, boot to finnix 120. Using that, I have fscked all partitions, including the RAID array. I am running checksums,

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-04 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > But, as said previously, old PC-BIOS does not care for partitions. > GRUB does. Normally it can handle partition tables if the necessary GRUB > modules are loaded. For GPT: insmod part_gpt Thank you Thomas, I now understand this use case.

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > I am not sure if grub can boot off GPT without UEFI. That's the use case of the GRUB BIOS boot partition with Type GUID 21686148-6449-6e6f-744e656564454649. See "GPT" section in https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/BIOS-installation.html It is

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > The OP has described a problem with a ~2006 laptop which, as far as > I can understand it, involves GPT devices (as well as MBR ones), > and *BIOS* booting. > I am not sure if grub can boot off GPT without UEFI. I honestly never thought of this. For me both go hand in

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 03 Jul 2020 at 21:04:44 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Matthew Campbell wrote: > > > Nothing seems good enough. Do you want a picture? I'm not typing all of > > that in on my tablet. Some people post pictures to appropriate sites when it's not possible to copy the text (eg, in the BIOS,

Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread deloptes
Matthew Campbell wrote: > Nothing seems good enough. Do you want a picture? I'm not typing all of > that in on my tablet. Let's just let it go. I'm working on understanding > grub. I'm going to boot from a USB flash drive. When I want to boot from the USB drive with GPT configured I first make

Fw: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread Matthew Campbell
drive. >> >> >> […] >> >> >> The hard drive, /dev/sdb, always responds faster than the USB flash >> >> >> drives so it is always /dev/sdb. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now Debian Linux is running on my new hard drive using

Re: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-03 Thread David Wright
t; >> The hard drive, /dev/sdb, always responds faster than the USB flash > >> >> drives so it is always /dev/sdb. > >> >> > >> >> Now Debian Linux is running on my new hard drive using /dev/sdb1 as the > >> >> root partition. > > […] > &

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-02 Thread David Wright
gt; /dev/sdb is the new 4 TB Toshiba External USB 3.0 hard drive. > >> […] > >> The hard drive, /dev/sdb, always responds faster than the USB flash drives > >> so it is always /dev/sdb. > >> > >> Now Debian Linux is running on my new hard drive using

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-02 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-07-02 01:12, Matthew Campbell wrote: The 4 TB hard drive uses a GPT type partition table, not an MBR type table, which is why the computer can't see it. It can't make sense of GPT tables. It is a Toshiba Satellite laptop. Satellite P105-S6187, model number PSPAAU-01L00S. I just

Re: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-02 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: This message was only sent to the OP by mistake. David On 2020-06-14 18:16, Matthew Campbell wrote: I'm kind of stuck using the ProtonMail app on my tablet. The message you replied to was properly indented. Other than top-posting and the "name=Mathew..." field, your

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Matthew Campbell wrote: > The 4 TB hard drive uses a GPT type partition table, not an MBR type table, > which is why the computer can't see it. It can't make sense of GPT tables. Not knowing what's actually causing your problem, i have to doubt this theory. If the machine's firmware has no

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-07-01 Thread David Wright
ly partition. Both use a DOS MBR partition table > that sets the first partition as active/bootable. > > The hard drive, /dev/sdb, always responds faster than the USB flash drives so > it is always /dev/sdb. > > Now Debian Linux is running on my new hard drive using /dev/sd

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-17 Thread deloptes
Matthew Campbell wrote: > My computer cannot see a GPT partition table. I've had to use a dos MBR > partition table on my USB flash drives. I mount my file systems as > read-only first so I can check them after booting before remounting them > read-write. I am sorry to say it, but you are not

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-17 Thread deloptes
Matthew Campbell wrote: > Now Debian Linux is running on my new hard drive using /dev/sdb1 as the > root partition. I need to set up a separate USB flash drive to do all of > this by default so I don't have to do all of this work every time the > computer boots up. I also need to i

Re: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 15 iun 20, 01:16:16, Matthew Campbell wrote: > I'm kind of stuck using the ProtonMail app on my tablet. The ProtonMail web app has the option to send plain text only. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-14 Thread deloptes
Matthew Campbell wrote: > I'm kind of stuck using the ProtonMail app on my tablet. > > I would like to be able to disconnect the internal hard drive in the > laptop. I'll need to turn off the laptop before moving it so I can look > for that model number. I hope to get to that soon. I can't do

Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-14 Thread Matthew Campbell
Man, that text really got screwed up. name=Matthew%20Campbell=trenix25%40pm.me Original Message On Jun 14, 2020, 6:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > The internal hard drive was visible to Grub, as was the other external USB > hard drive, a Western Digital drive. Having an

Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-14 Thread Matthew Campbell
The internal hard drive was visible to Grub, as was the other external USB hard drive, a Western Digital drive. Having an external hard drive connected with USB is not the problem. Grub was on /dev/sda and used to boot the Western Digital drive just fine, until Grub was reconfigured to boot the

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread deloptes
The Wanderer wrote: > That's *probably* not a problem relative to the fact that this is a USB3 > external hard drive, but it certainly can't be helping. I am not sure, but I think there were 686 BIOSes that could not see 4TB disks

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-06-13 at 18:44, David Christensen wrote: [that on 2020-06-13 at 15:38, Matthew Campbell wrote:] >> /dev/sda: Toshiba MK1234GS, 111.8 GiB (Internal) >> /dev/sr0: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-850S , DVD R/W (Internal IDE) >> /dev/sdb: Toshiba External USB 3.0 3.7 TiB >> /dev/sdc: PNY 32 USB 2.0 FD

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread David Christensen
Matthew Campell -- Whatever client software you are using for e-mail, it is not indenting previous message content when you reply. This makes it very hard to follow the conversation, especially when there are replies to replies, to replies, to replies, etc.. Rather than trying to fix the

Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread Matthew Campbell
of your USB flash drive? Answered above. Are you using a USB 2.0 port or a USB 3.0 port? All USB ports are USB 2.0. > Grub has /dev/sdb1 listed as an option, but says the disk does not exist and > to load the kernel first, which of course is on the new hard drive partition > /dev/sdb1

Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread Matthew Campbell
in too. The flash drive is > _really_ slow. > > Grub has /dev/sdb1 listed as an option, but says the disk does not > exist and to load the kernel first, which of course is on the new hard > drive partition /dev/sdb1 which I can access just fine after starting > the kernel. The catch is t

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
gt; exist and to load the kernel first, which of course is on the new hard > drive partition /dev/sdb1 which I can access just fine after starting > the kernel. The catch is that I have to boot the flash drive /dev/sdc1 > to do so thus making it the root filesystem. > > 1) How can I he

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread tomas
w. > > Grub has /dev/sdb1 listed as an option, but says the disk does not exist and > to load the kernel first, which of course is on the new hard drive partition > /dev/sdb1 which I can access just fine after starting the kernel. The catch > is that I have to boot the flash dri

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread David Christensen
and model of your USB flash drive? Are you using a USB 2.0 port or a USB 3.0 port? Grub has /dev/sdb1 listed as an option, but says the disk does not exist and to load the kernel first, which of course is on the new hard drive partition /dev/sdb1 which I can access just fine after starting

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-13 Thread deloptes
Matthew Campbell wrote: > I booted the Debian netinst disc and installed Linux on /dev/sdb1 as the > root partition. My computer is old. The system BIOS does not see this hard > drive, nor does Grub, but the Linux kernel does. I'm running the > 4.19.0-9-686-pae kernel, #1 SMP Debian 4.19.118-2

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-12 Thread elvis
to install Linux on a 32 GB USB flash drive just to get my computer to boot. Now I can boot Windows again too. The flash drive is _really_ slow. Grub has /dev/sdb1 listed as an option, but says the disk does not exist and to load the kernel first, which of course is on the new hard drive

Re: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

2020-06-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Matthew Campbell wrote: > I hope I don't create a fight with this. It's really much more rare than your recent experience would suggest. > I booted the Debian netinst disc and installed Linux on /dev/sdb1 as the root > partition. My computer is old. The system BIOS does not see this hard

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 feb 20, 09:08:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 03:01:52PM +0100, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > > kaye n wrote: > > > *For the future, you could paste the (relevant part from) the output of > > > 'parted -l'.* > > > Just curious, never encountered that command before. > > >

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-12 Thread didier . gaumet
Le mercredi 12 février 2020 15:10:04 UTC+1, Felix Miata a écrit : [...] > If you present to it what it wants, it makes no partitioning changes. If you > don't, it will divide up what you do give it, as long as what you do give it > can meet its minimum requirement. [...] I am sure now that you

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 03:01:52PM +0100, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > kaye n wrote: > > *For the future, you could paste the (relevant part from) the output of > > 'parted -l'.* > > Just curious, never encountered that command before. > > kaye@laptop:~$ parted -l > > bash: parted: command not found >

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-12 Thread Felix Miata
didier.gau...@gmail.com composed on 2020-02-12 01:57 (UTC-0800): >> Windows will automatically create a partition out of the 50GB partition >> that I made for it? > I may be wrong, but I do not think the Microsoft Windows installer will do > so: it will probably try to create other partitions

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-12 Thread Klaus Singvogel
kaye n wrote: > *The (U)EFI partition seems far to small, I think mine was about 200 MB > originaly and I extended it to 700 MB, so I was able to make UEFI updates. > > *Are UEFI updates necessary? What's the smallest allowable size I can > make for UEFI partition? Or is that not a wise thing to

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-12 Thread didier . gaumet
Please use a correct quoting method: it is difficult to differenciate your discourse from others when when replying to you :-) Le mercredi 12 février 2020 09:00:05 UTC+1, kaye n a écrit : > Are UEFI updates necessary? What's the smallest allowable size I can make > for UEFI partition? Or is

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 feb 20, 15:53:37, kaye n wrote: > > *For the future, you could paste the (relevant part from) the output of > 'parted -l'.* > Just curious, never encountered that command before. > kaye@laptop:~$ parted -l > bash: parted: command not found It's in package 'parted' and must be run as

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread kaye n
*The (U)EFI partition seems far to small, I think mine was about 200 MB originaly and I extended it to 700 MB, so I was able to make UEFI updates.*Are UEFI updates necessary? What's the smallest allowable size I can make for UEFI partition? Or is that not a wise thing to do? *PXE Boot is booting

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 11 feb 20, 21:07:05, kaye n wrote: > Thank you guys for telling me the email got lost. I'll just describe it. > > The partition table is GPT. > > Imagine you're looking at the graphical presentation of my hdd in GParted. > > Starting from the left: For the future, you could paste the

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread Felix Miata
kaye n composed on 2020-02-11 21:07 (UTC+0800): > The partition table is GPT. Created how? Did you do it yourself prior to beginning installation of Debian? > Imagine you're looking at the graphical presentation of my hdd in GParted. > Starting from the left: > 858GB NTFS partition (intended

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Thanks. Two thoughts about your failures: The (U)EFI partition seems far to small, I think mine was about 200 MB originaly and I extended it to 700 MB, so I was able to make UEFI updates. PXE Boot is booting over network (TFTP) and not want you want. You can configure your boot device in the

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread kaye n
Thank you guys for telling me the email got lost. I'll just describe it. The partition table is GPT. Imagine you're looking at the graphical presentation of my hdd in GParted. Starting from the left: 858GB NTFS partition (intended for storing all kinds of data) then 20GB ext4 partition,

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Felix Miata wrote: > kaye n composed on 2020-02-11 17:23 (UTC+0800): > > > No one? > > Your OP seems to have gotten lost in the ether. I don't see it on > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/threads.html and don't remember > seeing it arrive among any other debian-user email. I do see

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread Felix Miata
kaye n composed on 2020-02-11 17:23 (UTC+0800): > No one? Your OP seems to have gotten lost in the ether. I don't see it on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/threads.html and don't remember seeing it arrive among any other debian-user email. I do see there another original post from

Re: Having trouble installing Debian on brand new hard drive

2020-02-11 Thread kaye n
No one? On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:35 PM kaye n wrote: > Hello Friends! > > Are my attached files too big? If so, let me know, I'll make them smaller > next time. > > debian_01.jpg shows how I formatted the brand new hard drive. My goal is > to install Debian first, then

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 16 Mar 2019 at 10:49:19 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 11/03/2019 à 19:46, David Wright a écrit : > > On Sat 09 Mar 2019 at 20:31:36 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > > > > I did not mean using UDF on opticals discs but on regular drives, just > > > as any other general purpose

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/03/2019 à 19:46, David Wright a écrit : On Sat 09 Mar 2019 at 20:31:36 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: I did not mean using UDF on opticals discs but on regular drives, just as any other general purpose filesystem. I once considered using it for file sharing between Windows and Linux

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 09 Mar 2019 at 20:31:36 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 08/03/2019 à 04:15, David Wright a écrit : > > On Thu 07 Mar 2019 at 23:12:29 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 07/03/2019 à 20:23, David Wright a écrit : > > > > > > > > A filesystem > > > > that has a label, has that

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-09 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 08/03/2019 à 04:15, David Wright a écrit : On Thu 07 Mar 2019 at 23:12:29 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 07/03/2019 à 20:23, David Wright a écrit : A filesystem that has a label, has that label regardless of any OS. Have you ever used UDF ? Yes. As far as my experience goes,

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-08 Thread David Wright
Please don't oversnip. This subthread was about labels (aka LABELs). On Fri 08 Mar 2019 at 08:20:40 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:15:51PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 07 Mar 2019 at 23:12:29 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 07/03/2019 à 20:23, David

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:15:51PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Yes. As far as my experience goes, there's not a lot of difference. > I've had no occasion to *write* DVDs on a computer system, so I can > only speak of reading them. For writing, fstab and mount are not involved in any way

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Cousin Stanley
David Wright wrote: > I would not expect to find the characters > /dev/disk/by-label/ anywhere in the partition. > > That string belongs to the linux system, not to the card. > > That's what I meant by "actually belongs to the filesystems". OK, that's clear and I understand. >> I'm not

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Mar 2019 at 23:12:29 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 07/03/2019 à 20:23, David Wright a écrit : > > > > A filesystem > > that has a label, has that label regardless of any OS. > > Have you ever used UDF ? Yes. As far as my experience goes, there's not a lot of difference. I've

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Mar 2019 at 13:49:42 (-0700), Cousin Stanley wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > I prefer to populate fstab with canonical information > > that actually belongs to the filesystems that are to be mounted. > > I don't understand what you're saying here. > > Does a disk label not

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Cousin Stanley
Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 01:49:42PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: >>David Wright wrote: >>> All that stuff in /dev/disk/ is just an ephemeral >>> bunch of convenient symbolic links, presumably conjured >>> up by udev or somesuch, if not the linux kernel >> >> But are they

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 07/03/2019 à 20:23, David Wright a écrit : A filesystem that has a label, has that label regardless of any OS. Have you ever used UDF ? It has a set of identifiers, and I observed that Windows and blkid did not use the same identifier as the label.

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 01:49:42PM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: David Wright wrote: All that stuff in /dev/disk/ is just an ephemeral bunch of convenient symbolic links, presumably conjured up by udev or somesuch, if not the linux kernel But are they not accurate after boot for particular

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Cousin Stanley
David Wright wrote: > I prefer to populate fstab with canonical information > that actually belongs to the filesystems that are to be mounted. I don't understand what you're saying here. Does a disk label not belong to a filesystem that is to be mounted ? > A filesystem that has a

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Mar 2019 at 09:59:43 (-0700), Cousin Stanley wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 07:11:36AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: > >>Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >>> > >>> and my fstab is: > >>> > >>> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > >>> > >> > >>

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:59:43AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 07:11:36AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: Stephen P. Molnar wrote: and my fstab is: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. I've found that labeling my disk

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Cousin Stanley
Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 07:11:36AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: >>Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >> >>> >>> and my fstab is: >>> >>> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. >>> >> >> I've found that labeling my disk partitions >> and using

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Felix Miata
Cousin Stanley composed on 2019-03-07 07:11 (UTC-0700): > To label the disk partitions check the man pages > for the following labeling options > >$ ls -1 /sbin | grep label >dosfslabel >e2label >exfatlabel >fatlabel >ntfslabel >swaplabel > The e2label

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 07:11:36AM -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote: Stephen P. Molnar wrote: and my fstab is: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. I've found that labeling my disk partitions and using /dev/disk/by-label/xyzzy lines in the /etc/fstab file seems to be

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-07 Thread Cousin Stanley
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > and my fstab is: > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > I've found that labeling my disk partitions and using /dev/disk/by-label/xyzzy lines in the /etc/fstab file seems to be much easier for my own small brain to comprehend.

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-06 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I would beg the group's indulgence again, as I want to be sure I get this correctly. I think this is what I want as the fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/03/2019 à 15:17, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda  8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk ├─sda1   8:1    0 457.9G  0 part / ├─sda2   8:2    0 1K  0 part └─sda5   8:5    0   7.9G  0 part [SWAP] sdb  8:16   0   1.8T  0 disk ├─sdb1   8:17   0   1.8T 

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 03/01/2019 01:56 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 08:46:30 (-0500), Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am sure that you will castigate men for two things: 1. Top posting 2. Not replying to debian-users However, I wanted to keep my reply private in the hope of not starting a flame

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-01 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 12:49:11PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>nofail is intended for removable drives that could be missing on boot, > >>such as Thinkpad ultrabay drives/CF or SD cards. > > It is also, as he said, useful if you don't want a failure of > > a non-essential disk to

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>nofail is intended for removable drives that could be missing on boot, >>such as Thinkpad ultrabay drives/CF or SD cards. > It is also, as he said, useful if you don't want a failure of > a non-essential disk to make the system drop to single user on boot. Yup. `nofail` corresponds to the

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 12:00:06 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 10:52:00AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 01:30:47 (-0500), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > > That's what I'd been thinking, too. Because of your question, I just > > > tried a search for... >

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 07:30:15 (+), Dekks Herton wrote: > David Wright writes: > > On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 15:45:47 (-0500), Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > >> # > >> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a > >> # device;

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 10:52:00AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 01:30:47 (-0500), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > That's what I'd been thinking, too. Because of your question, I just > > tried a search for... > > > > "defaults,rw" /etc/fstab > > You've really limited what can

Re: string "defaults" in fstab options columns (was: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive)

2019-03-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 02:51:33 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > Cindy-Sue Causey composed on 2019-03-01 01:30 (UTC-0500): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> David Wright composed on 2019-02-28 20:26 (UTC-0600): > >>> I always add an explicit rw or ro under options, along with defaults. > > >> English can

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Mar 2019 at 01:30:47 (-0500), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 2/28/19, Felix Miata wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2019-02-28 20:26 (UTC-0600): > > > >> I always add an explicit rw or ro under options, along with defaults. > > > > English can be tricky. Please clarify. AIUI, the string

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 07:30:15AM +, Dekks Herton wrote: David Wright writes: I always add an explicit rw or ro under options, along with defaults. With systemd, I add nofail to any filesystems that aren't vital for the system to run, which means the system will still boot fully without

Re: string "defaults" in fstab options columns (was: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive)

2019-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
Cindy-Sue Causey composed on 2019-03-01 01:30 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> David Wright composed on 2019-02-28 20:26 (UTC-0600): >>> I always add an explicit rw or ro under options, along with defaults. >> English can be tricky. Please clarify. AIUI, the string "defaults" is a >>

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-02-28 Thread Dekks Herton
David Wright writes: > On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 15:45:47 (-0500), Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >> I am running Stretch and after much trial and tribulation, and at >> times abject horror, I have succeeded in installing a new SSD. >> >> My drive structure is: >> >> comp@AbNormal:~$ lsblk >> NAME

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-02-28 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/28/19, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2019-02-28 20:26 (UTC-0600): > >> I always add an explicit rw or ro under options, along with defaults. > > English can be tricky. Please clarify. AIUI, the string "defaults" is a > placeholder, unnecessary if > any other option is

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2019-02-28 20:26 (UTC-0600): > I always add an explicit rw or ro under options, along with defaults. English can be tricky. Please clarify. AIUI, the string "defaults" is a placeholder, unnecessary if any other option is specified. Man mount doesn't make it clear to me.

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-02-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 15:45:47 (-0500), Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Stretch and after much trial and tribulation, and at > times abject horror, I have succeeded in installing a new SSD. > > My drive structure is: > > comp@AbNormal:~$ lsblk > NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-02-28 Thread Dekks Herton
"Stephen P. Molnar" writes: > I am running Stretch and after much trial and tribulation, and at times > abject horror, I have succeeded in installing a new SSD. > > My drive structure is: > > comp@AbNormal:~$ lsblk > NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT > sda 8:00 465.8G 0 disk

User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-02-28 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Stretch and after much trial and tribulation, and at times abject horror, I have succeeded in installing a new SSD. My drive structure is: comp@AbNormal:~$ lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:00 465.8G 0 disk ├─sda1 8:10 457.9G 0 part / ├─sda2

Installing the MBR on a new Hard Drive

2012-04-26 Thread Martin McCormick
I have made a copy of the / file system from the boot drive on a Debian Squeeze system to a new flash drive as the original drive is about 13 years old, works fine, but I don't want to push my luck too far. I used fdisk to format the new drive, made Partition 1 bootable and then used rsync

Installing the MBR on a new Hard Drive

2012-04-26 Thread Martin McCormick
I have made a copy of the / file system from the boot drive on a Debian Squeeze system to a new flash drive as the original drive is about 13 years old, works fine, but I don't want to push my luck too far. I used fdisk to format the new drive, made Partition 1 bootable and then used rsync

Re: Installing the MBR on a new Hard Drive

2012-04-26 Thread Martin McCormick
Very sorry for the duplicate posting. It looked like the first attempt bounced so I re-sent it and both worked. Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Installing the MBR on a new Hard Drive

2012-04-26 Thread Gary Dale
On 26/04/12 10:02 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: I have made a copy of the / file system from the boot drive on a Debian Squeeze system to a new flash drive as the original drive is about 13 years old, works fine, but I don't want to push my luck too far. I used fdisk to format the new

Re: Installing the MBR on a new Hard Drive

2012-04-26 Thread Martin McCormick
Gary Dale writes: Personally, I'd just dd the entire old disk to the new one. Then use gparted (from a live distro) to resize your partitions. Actually, that is probably the best solution. I did that on a previous disk several months ago and it worked fine However, since you have already done

Re: new hard drive usb WD My Passport essential SE 1Tb

2011-03-05 Thread François TOURDE
Le 15036ième jour après Epoch, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen écrivait: I have a new usb hard drive of the specs in the subject line. On plugging it in it shows on the desktop, but on clicking it nothing happens. Anybody have experience getting this to work on debian (squeeze)? I've exactly

Re: new hard drive usb WD My Passport essential SE 1Tb

2011-03-03 Thread Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen
I should add that the package says it has usb 3.0 On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 17:27, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kjetil1...@gmail.com wrote: I have a new usb hard drive of the specs in the subject line. On plugging it in it shows on the desktop, but on clicking it nothing happens. Anybody have

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