Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-24 Thread Gareth Evans
On Thu 16 Jun 2022, at 22:13, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am struggeling with a little problem, I can not explain. > > A friend of mine uses a printer (Samsung SL-C480FW), which is connected to > the > router with wireless. However, although there are no drivers and no ppd-files >

Re: CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread Gareth Evans
On Mon 20 Jun 2022, at 23:50, Gareth Evans wrote: > On Mon 20 Jun 2022, at 23:31, Gareth Evans wrote: >> On Mon 20 Jun 2022, at 17:34, The Wanderer wrote: >>> On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote: >>> On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 09:28:30 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-06-20 at

Re: CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread Gareth Evans
On Mon 20 Jun 2022, at 23:31, Gareth Evans wrote: > On Mon 20 Jun 2022, at 17:34, The Wanderer wrote: >> On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote: >> >>> On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 09:28:30 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >>> On 2022-06-20 at 08:59, Brian wrote: >> > The ability to print to an IPP

Re: CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread Gareth Evans
On Mon 20 Jun 2022, at 17:34, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote: > >> On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 09:28:30 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> On 2022-06-20 at 08:59, Brian wrote: > The ability to print to an IPP printer involves discovering its URI. CUPS gets the URI

Re: CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread Brian
On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 19:49:18 +0100, Brian wrote: Please forget about this mai. I pressed the wrong key. Never done that before! > On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 12:34:19 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote: > > > > > "...once the URIis known"? What mechaism does that?

Re: CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread Brian
On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 12:34:19 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote: > > > "...once the URIis known"? What mechaism does that? Incidentally, a > > URI is required to query a printer for its attributes. > > Any of a number of mechanisms. > > CUPS could run discovery

Re: CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote: > On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 09:28:30 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2022-06-20 at 08:59, Brian wrote: >>> The ability to print to an IPP printer involves discovering its >>> URI. CUPS gets the URI via avahi-daemon whether it is an >>> on-demand or manual

Re: CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread Brian
On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 09:28:30 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-06-20 at 08:59, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 18:01:36 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> On 2022-06-19 at 15:47, Brian wrote: > > >>> You (or the OP) would have to say what is meant by "delete". > >>> CUPS

CUPS and available-printers-list management (was Re: non installed printer can not be removed)

2022-06-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-06-20 at 08:59, Brian wrote: > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 18:01:36 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2022-06-19 at 15:47, Brian wrote: >>> You (or the OP) would have to say what is meant by "delete". >>> CUPS essentially *discover* printers. It is why it exists. Is >>> that not wanted? >>

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-20 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 18:01:36 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-06-19 at 15:47, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 14:54:58 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> On 2022-06-19 at 14:50, Brian wrote: > > >>> What does being "precious" involve? > >> > >> I'm less certain about this, but

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sun 19 Jun 2022, at 23:01, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-06-19 at 15:47, Brian wrote: > >> On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 14:54:58 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> On 2022-06-19 at 14:50, Brian wrote: > What does being "precious" involve? >>> >>> I'm less certain about this, but my guess is

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-06-19 at 15:47, Brian wrote: > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 14:54:58 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2022-06-19 at 14:50, Brian wrote: >>> What does being "precious" involve? >> >> I'm less certain about this, but my guess is that it means that >> CUPS insists on having these detected

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 14:54:58 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-06-19 at 14:50, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 08:48:43 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > >> cups has an annoying habit of considering any printer it scanning > >> protocol detects as precious. To me its a bug. > > > >

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-06-19 at 14:50, Brian wrote: > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 08:48:43 -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> cups has an annoying habit of considering any printer it scanning >> protocol detects as precious. To me its a bug. > > I do not understand what you are trying to say here. What is this >

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 08:48:43 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/17/22 00:46, Gareth Evans wrote: > >  > > > > > > > On 17 Jun 2022, at 01:56, Gareth Evans wrote: > > > On Thu 16 Jun 2022, at 22:13, Hans wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > I am struggeling with a little problem, I can

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 19 Jun 2022, at 13:56, gene heskett wrote: > > On 6/18/22 05:54, Hans wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >>> You were expected to execute 'lpinfo -v' and give us the output. We >>> also expect the result of 'driverless'. >> this is difficult, as the computer is 600km away from me and I have no

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread gene heskett
On 6/18/22 05:54, Hans wrote: Hi Brian, You were expected to execute 'lpinfo -v' and give us the output. We also expect the result of 'driverless'. this is difficult, as the computer is 600km away from me and I have no access to it at the moment.> Put the URI in double quotes. I will try

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-19 Thread gene heskett
On 6/17/22 00:46, Gareth Evans wrote:  On 17 Jun 2022, at 01:56, Gareth Evans wrote: On Thu 16 Jun 2022, at 22:13, Hans wrote: Hi folks, I am struggeling with a little problem, I can not explain. D [17/Jun/2022:00:47:45 +0100] [Job 36] Resolving \"Brother MFC-L2740DW series\",

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-18 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Jun 2022 at 11:47:35 +0200, Hans wrote: > Just to add the following information: > > The command "driverless" is showing me the printer, beginning with > ipp://. Ok. > Does this mean, this printer does not need any ppd-file? The printer is queried by everywhere for its

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-18 Thread Hans
Hi Brian, > You were expected to execute 'lpinfo -v' and give us the output. We > also expect the result of 'driverless'. this is difficult, as the computer is 600km away from me and I have no access to it at the moment.> > Put the URI in double quotes. I will try it, next time, I get access

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-18 Thread Hans
Just to add the following information: The command "driverless" is showing me the printer, beginning with ipp://. Does this mean, this printer does not need any ppd-file? And who sets and where are the rights for this kind of printers set? As I already mentioned: The printer obviously

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-18 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Jun 2022 at 10:48:01 +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi again, > > As helped me recently: > > > > "# lpinfo -v > > showed me the uri from the printer. You were expected to execute 'lpinfo -v' and give us the output. We also expect the result of 'driverless'. > > to get a list of URLs (the one

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-18 Thread Hans
Hi again, > As helped me recently: > > "# lpinfo -v showed me the uri from the printer. > > to get a list of URLs (the one starting with ipp:// is the one > necessary), and then something like > > # lpadmin -p Brother2740 -v IPP_URL_FROM_ABOVE -E -m everywhere" > >

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-17 Thread Brian
On Thu 16 Jun 2022 at 23:13:11 +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am struggeling with a little problem, I can not explain. > > A friend of mine uses a printer (Samsung SL-C480FW), which is connected to > the > router with wireless. However, although there are no drivers and no ppd-files >

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-16 Thread Gareth Evans

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-16 Thread Gareth Evans
 > On 17 Jun 2022, at 01:56, Gareth Evans wrote: > On Thu 16 Jun 2022, at 22:13, Hans wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I am struggeling with a little problem, I can not explain. >> >> A friend of mine uses a printer (Samsung SL-C480FW), which is connected to >> the >> router with wireless.

Re: non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-16 Thread Gareth Evans
On Thu 16 Jun 2022, at 22:13, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am struggeling with a little problem, I can not explain. > > A friend of mine uses a printer (Samsung SL-C480FW), which is connected to > the > router with wireless. However, although there are no drivers and no ppd-files >

non installed printer can not be removed

2022-06-16 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I am struggeling with a little problem, I can not explain. A friend of mine uses a printer (Samsung SL-C480FW), which is connected to the router with wireless. However, although there are no drivers and no ppd-files installed, the printer is seen by cups (and also by