Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 23:03:29 David Christensen wrote: > On 08/21/2018 07:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote: > >> Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400): > >>> it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda. > >> > >> I've bee

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-22 Thread David Christensen
On 08/21/2018 08:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 21 August 2018 23:03:29 David Christensen wrote: Are you using the d-i in standard "install" mode, or in "advanced -> expert" mode? The latter gives you much more control. I think I tried that on the first attempt, but the acronyms weren'

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 23:03:29 David Christensen wrote: > On 08/21/2018 07:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote: > >> Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400): > >>> it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda. > >> > >> I've bee

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread David Christensen
On 08/21/2018 07:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote: Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400): it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda. I've been scratching my head trying to remember the details of bootloader installation in

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400): > > it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda. > > I've been scratching my head trying to remember the details of > bootloader installation in debian-installer and coming up nada,

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 21:51:36 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 08/21/2018 05:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 August 2018 18:33:50 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> On 08/19/2018 12:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400): > it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda. I've been scratching my head trying to remember the details of bootloader installation in debian-installer and coming up nada, except for somehow being able to specify /dev/null as location,

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 08/21/2018 05:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 21 August 2018 18:33:50 Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 08/19/2018 12:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 08:29:12PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: So its off to do the 8th install to the same hard drive today... Just think of all the time you might not have wasted if you'd just told us what the problem was when you tried to mount the partition. Because what you're trying to do

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 18:33:50 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 08/19/2018 12:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition > > and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I > > didn't let it overwrite the

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 08/21/2018 10:28 AM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 20 Aug 2018 at 18:13:22 (-0700), Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 08/20/2018 01:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 20 August 2018 11:23:00 Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 20/08/18 05:40, Gene Heskett wrote: Whats the recommended way to do these mounts s

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 08/19/2018 12:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy from. I figured I'd mount

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Aug 2018 at 18:13:22 (-0700), Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 08/20/2018 01:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Monday 20 August 2018 11:23:00 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > > >>On 20/08/18 05:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>>Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain as > >>>much con

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 09:23:27PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2018 20:08:11 David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 20 Aug 2018 at 16:27:18 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > So I reboot to a different installer supplied by the linuxcnc > > > people, and installed it. Weird, I had acce

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
I like network manager when I'm out and about with my notebook it works great for connecting to wireless hotspots. It does what it was designed for. The new udev naming convention does look strange but at least udev no longer randomly flip flops the nics on my UTM putting the inside ruleset on the

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 09:16:22PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2018 19:51:36 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:00:10PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:27:18PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > If you had read that wall of tex

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2018 20:08:11 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 20 Aug 2018 at 16:27:18 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 20 August 2018 11:13:08 Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:33:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >sudo reboot doesn't unmount the system drive cle

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2018 19:51:36 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:00:10PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:27:18PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > If you had read that wall of text, the error was that the new > > > version of ext4 supported stuff the

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 08/20/2018 01:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 20 August 2018 11:23:00 Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 20/08/18 05:40, Gene Heskett wrote: Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain as much continuity as possible? Those other areas, are they logical volumes perhaps? lv

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 07:19:26PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 21 Aug 2018 at 09:48:37 (+1000), Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:42:00PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > But now, for no known reason, stretch's network has gone away. And all > > > the tools I am fam

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 21 Aug 2018 at 09:48:37 (+1000), Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:42:00PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > But now, for no known reason, stretch's network has gone away. And all > > the tools I am familiar with have been excised from stretch. Sigh... > > Hm, frustrating

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Aug 2018 at 16:27:18 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2018 11:13:08 Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:33:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >sudo reboot doesn't unmount the system drive cleanly enough? Then I'd > > >call it a bug. > > > > I'm sure you

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 05:00:10PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:27:18PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > If you had read that wall of text, the error was that the new version of > > ext4 supported stuff the wheezy version didn't and it recommended > > getting an updated e2

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:42:00PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2018 13:53:14 Brian wrote: > > On Sun 19 Aug 2018 at 20:58:28 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:33:32 David Wright wrote: > > > > Can you not run your stretch installation then? In a new s

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:27:18PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: If you had read that wall of text, the error was that the new version of ext4 supported stuff the wheezy version didn't and it recommended getting an updated e2fs-utils, which of course is not available in a wheezy repo. That was the

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2018 13:53:14 Brian wrote: > On Sun 19 Aug 2018 at 20:58:28 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:33:32 David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > > Can you not run your stretch installation then? In a new system, > > > I'd mount the old wheezy disk(s) and pull th

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2018 11:23:00 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 20/08/18 05:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain as > > much continuity as possible? > > Those other areas, are they logical volumes perhaps? lvms. > No, straight partitions accord

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2018 11:13:08 Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:33:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >sudo reboot doesn't unmount the system drive cleanly enough? Then I'd > >call it a bug. > > I'm sure you would. But for all of your wall-of-text ranting, you > failed to ever p

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Brian
On Mon 20 Aug 2018 at 13:55:55 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 06:53:14PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > My suggestion is along the same lines as David Wright's. > > > > Boot the installer and stop when you get to partitioning. > > Switch to a console (ALT-F2) and mount the wheezy

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 06:53:14PM +0100, Brian wrote: My suggestion is along the same lines as David Wright's. Boot the installer and stop when you get to partitioning. Switch to a console (ALT-F2) and mount the wheezy and stretch partitions. Use cp to copy files between the two partitions. E

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Aug 2018 at 20:58:28 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:33:32 David Wright wrote: [...] > > Can you not run your stretch installation then? In a new system, I'd > > mount the old wheezy disk(s) and pull the files across. Leaving the > > wheezy mount there makes i

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 20/08/18 05:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain as much > continuity as possible? Those other areas, are they logical volumes perhaps? lvms. Cheers A.

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:33:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: sudo reboot doesn't unmount the system drive cleanly enough? Then I'd call it a bug. I'm sure you would. But for all of your wall-of-text ranting, you failed to ever provide basic information like "what is the result of trying to m

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2018 09:37:05 Michael Stone wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 03:40:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition > > and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I > > didn't let it overwrite the grub o

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2018 08:29:14 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:51:24 PM -04 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:15:43 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote: > > > > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 03:40:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy from. I figured I'd moun

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-20 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:51:24 PM -04 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:15:43 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote: > > > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > > > I just installed stretch to a

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 03:40:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and > format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let > it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy from. > > I figure

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread David Christensen
On 08/19/2018 12:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy from. I figured I'd mount

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:33:32 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 19 Aug 2018 at 15:40:55 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition > > and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I > > didn't let it

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:15:43 Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote: > > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it > > > autopartition and format for separate /, sw

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread David Wright
On Sun 19 Aug 2018 at 15:40:55 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and > format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let > it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy f

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote: > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and > > format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let > > it overwrite th

Re: painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread john doe
On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy from. I figured I'd mount it

painted into a corner

2018-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st drive it was/is booting wheezy from. I figured I'd mount it to wheezy and copy over my personal stuff