Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Indeed. I found this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PolicyKit#Suspend_and_hibernate Follow that and addgroup power and adduser to power and you can now hibernate and suspend. So this just seems to be matter or missing PK privileges, in

Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 16:58, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Linux-Fan
On 12/19/2012 04:58 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 19.12.2012 16:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
To keep professional systems secure, it's helpful to force users to keep their home desktop PC secure too, because security is a chain. I know that there are cases, when we are not part of this chain, e.g. for an audio workstation, that isn't connected to the Internet. IMO it's ok to force users

Re: Reasons for rights policies, political or technical ? Was : Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
experimental blob. I think that you can not force user to be responsible about security, when you make configuration a hell where only specialized guys can find their way. From what I can see, now, when you ask how to use pm-hibernate with normal user, people say to use something else, based on dbus

pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, What should be done to be able to execute pm-hibernate as user? pm-utils is installed. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kaqtf2$m87$1

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
-hibernate as user? pm-utils is installed. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2d4bac3778631fdce2b535f2900af...@neutralite.org

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think giving rights to some softwares is its role. sudo is one option, the other is to

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 00:36, Michael Biebl wrote: $ dbus-send --print-reply \ --system \ --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower \ /org/freedesktop/UPower \ org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend thinko on my part: you want org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate, of course.

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think giving rights to some softwares is its role. sudo is one

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think giving rights to

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think giving rights to