Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Wednesday 09 November 2016 14:50:03 Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > But let's just clarify that these authentication failures are not > because of MTA configuration only but also a matter of > Google's "email relay hardening". That is why it is a matter for _Google_ and your relationship with

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 7 November 2016 at 19:56, Henning Follmann wrote: > > Amen! > This should now be official gospel for the rest of this thread. > > Class dismissed. > Agreed. But let's just clarify that these authentication failures are not because of MTA configuration only but also

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 05:32:24PM +, Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 16:32:24 +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > > On 7 November 2016 at 15:52, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > Did you encode it in Base64, or is what you type it into > > > doing this on your

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 16:32:24 +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > On 7 November 2016 at 15:52, David Wright wrote: > > > > Did you encode it in Base64, or is what you type it into > > doing this on your behalf? > > > > Just typed the password, as always. Meaning

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Monday 07 November 2016 12:52:30 Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > - update the corresponding debian's wiki page on reportbug Since you obviously don't want to use any of what has been suggested, and since reportbug seems to be the only/main(?) bugbear, why not: Purge reportbug Make sure you have

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 7 November 2016 at 15:52, David Wright wrote: > > Did you encode it in Base64, or is what you type it into > doing this on your behalf? > Just typed the password, as always. Meaning unencoded. This is another part that maybe I haven't cleared out. I never had an MTA

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 14:46:01 (+0200), Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > On 7 November 2016 at 00:51, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 03:44:49PM +, Brian wrote: > >> > >> I'd agree with that (it can be tested if needs be). In his reportbug > >> preferences file

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 6 November 2016 at 17:48, Henning Follmann wrote: > > You are submitting directly to googles MTA. > You have to figure out, how google expects you to authenticate. > This is exactly the purpose of this thread, let's investigate of a way that one: - could sent

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 6 November 2016 at 17:07, Brad Rogers wrote: > ... > > It's google being google. It's their servers, their rules. Like I said, > it is possible to configure a google account to allow connections to > non-google software, but where to find the right box to (un)tick, I have

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 7 November 2016 at 00:51, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 03:44:49PM +, Brian wrote: >> >> I'd agree with that (it can be tested if needs be). In his reportbug >> preferences file Sophoklis Goumas has >> >> smtphost "smtp.gmail.com:587" >> smtpuser

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 03:44:49PM +, Brian wrote: > On Sun 06 Nov 2016 at 10:28:38 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 04:57:02PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > > On 6 November 2016 at 14:20, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > > > > Because google

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

from the link that i posted earlier- https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/configure-postfix-to-use-gmail-as-a-mail-relay/ you are supposed to have these in your main.cf- relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_security_options =

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sun 06 Nov 2016 at 10:28:38 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 04:57:02PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > On 6 November 2016 at 14:20, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > > Because google consider anything not written by them to be "insecure". > > > For

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 04:53:39PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > On 6 November 2016 at 13:54, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > ... > > > > You haven't said what email client you are using, for a start. Some people > > have assumed that you are using your own mail server. Are you?

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 04:57:02PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > On 6 November 2016 at 14:20, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > Because google consider anything not written by them to be "insecure". > > For some time now google has disallowed (by default) what they deem to be > >

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 16:57:02 +0200 Sophoklis Goumas wrote: Hello Sophoklis, >Is Google just being stubborn or are they just actually trying to >enforce, in their way, some more secure way which reportbug is not >compatible to comply with yet? It's google being google.

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 6 November 2016 at 14:20, Brad Rogers wrote: > > Because google consider anything not written by them to be "insecure". > For some time now google has disallowed (by default) what they deem to be > insecure connections. As a result, one has to alter settings to "allow >

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 6 November 2016 at 13:54, Lisi Reisz wrote: > ... > > You haven't said what email client you are using, for a start. Some people > have assumed that you are using your own mail server. Are you? Are you > perhaps just using Gmail's own mail interface?? > Postfix. Here

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 5 November 2016 at 23:56, emetib wrote: > On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 4:00:03 PM UTC-5, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > i'm not a sysadmin, yet from what people are saying in there reports, no. > Ok. > > when is the last time that you used this before this rejection? >

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 07:16:29 -0500 Henning Follmann wrote: Hello Henning, This is really for the benefit of the OP, rather than yourself >So you said that you were able to relay mails axacly this way and now >it's not working anymore? Because google consider

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 06:22:56PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > On 5 November 2016 at 17:47, Henning Follmann > wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:42:55PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > What's not to understand. You do not authenticate properly. > > > >

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Saturday 05 November 2016 21:05:06 Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > I have supplied more information in my initial message: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/11/msg00087.html That is a matter of opinion. You haven't said what email client you are using, for a start. Some people have

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 4:00:03 PM UTC-5, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > > On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 9:50:04 AM UTC-5, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > ... > > > >> > >> Does one need to to enable adjust appropriately the "Allow less secure > >> apps" setting [1] ? > >> > > yes > > > >

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 5 November 2016 at 21:27, Michael Milliman wrote: > On Sat, 2016-11-05 at 09:30 -0700, emetib wrote: > It would help to know exactly what the problem is that you are having. > What email client are you using? What is happenning? It is impossible to > give you

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 5 November 2016 at 18:30, emetib wrote: > On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 9:50:04 AM UTC-5, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > ... > >> >> Does one need to to enable adjust appropriately the "Allow less secure >> apps" setting [1] ? >> > yes > >

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sat, 2016-11-05 at 09:30 -0700, emetib wrote: > On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 9:50:04 AM UTC-5, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > > Hello. > > > > Anybody else having troubles when using GMails' SMTP servers? > > > no It would help to know exactly what the problem is that you are having. What email

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 9:50:04 AM UTC-5, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > Hello. > > Anybody else having troubles when using GMails' SMTP servers? > no > Does one need to to enable adjust appropriately the "Allow less secure > apps" setting [1] ? > yes

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On 5 November 2016 at 17:47, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:42:55PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > What's not to understand. You do not authenticate properly. > Well, some useful feedback to it would be if someone just using those configurations

Re: reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:42:55PM +0200, Sophoklis Goumas wrote: > Hello. > > Anybody else having troubles when using GMails' SMTP servers? > > Does one need to to enable adjust appropriately the "Allow less secure > apps" setting [1] ? > > Excerpts from my ~/.reportbugrc: > smtphost

reportbug and GMail SMTP servers

Hello. Anybody else having troubles when using GMails' SMTP servers? Does one need to to enable adjust appropriately the "Allow less secure apps" setting [1] ? Excerpts from my ~/.reportbugrc: smtphost "smtp.gmail.com:587" smtpuser "olspookishma...@gmail.com" smtptls Error messages received: