Re: How can I get verbose shutdown from the GUI (Mate)?

2023-10-03 Thread debian-user
Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Am 03/10/2023 um 10:43 schrieb Bret Busby: > > Also, why do you not use, instead of the command that you specified, > > shutdown -h > > or, (if instead, wanted, for example, after doing a kernel update) > > shutdown -r > > ? > >

Re: How can I get verbose shutdown from the GUI (Mate)?

2023-10-03 Thread David Wright
On Tue 03 Oct 2023 at 13:15:48 (+), Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Am 03/10/2023 um 11:47 schrieb Ottavio Caruso: > > Am 03/10/2023 um 10:43 schrieb Bret Busby: > > > Also, why do you not use, instead of the command that you specified, > > > shutdown -h > > >

Re: How can I get verbose shutdown from the GUI (Mate)?

2023-10-03 Thread Bret Busby
no idea if the laptop is completely off or just thinking about it. Is there a way to force verbosity during shutdown without opening a terminal window or creating a keyboard shortcut? Thanks It is not the answer to your question, but, it may be the answer that you seek; "the screen

Re: How can I get verbose shutdown from the GUI (Mate)?

2023-10-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/10/2023 16:14, Ottavio Caruso wrote: $ sudo systemctl poweroff ... Is there a way to force verbosity during shutdown without opening a terminal window or creating a keyboard shortcut? Perhaps all you need is sudo journalctl -b -1 -e when you boot your machine next time. Likely

Re: Re: I cannot shutdown/poweroff after a HW upgrade - kernel gets stuck.

2023-03-26 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 11:33 PM Ram Ramesh wrote: > Hi Ramesh, > > this might help. The bug is fixed with kernel 6.0.2-1 > > https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.bugs.dist/c/p-sgJiTR00A?pli=1 > > All the best to you > Eike > > Elke, > > Thanks. v6.1 is available on bullseye-backports. I

Re: Re: I cannot shutdown/poweroff after a HW upgrade - kernel gets stuck.

2023-03-26 Thread Ram Ramesh
Hi Ramesh, this might help. The bug is fixed with kernel 6.0.2-1 https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.bugs.dist/c/p-sgJiTR00A?pli=1 All the best to you Eike Elke, Thanks. v6.1 is available on bullseye-backports. I installed it and the trouble is gone now. BTW, does non-free firmware

Re: I cannot shutdown/poweroff after a HW upgrade - kernel gets stuck.

2023-03-26 Thread Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ
On Sonntag, 26. März 2023 18:08:15 -04 Ram Ramesh wrote: > I wanted to upgrade my server from 10 year old HW to something newer. > THis server runs debian bullseye with v5.19 kernel from backports. [snip] > > The only trouble I have is that it refuses to > reboot/shutdown/poweroff

I cannot shutdown/poweroff after a HW upgrade - kernel gets stuck.

2023-03-26 Thread Ram Ramesh
my RAID disks are working. No issue as long as it runs. The only trouble I have is that it refuses to reboot/shutdown/poweroff. It seem to go through all steps and reach the end but seem to get stuck in this endless cycle complaining about some blkdev issue.  Here are the last lines printed

Re: How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-15 Thread David Wright
On Thu 15 Dec 2022 at 16:12:32 (+0100), Tobias Diekershoff wrote: > > > > perhaps someone of you can help me with tool / log file I have not > > > investigated > > > so far. I have a Thinkpad with Debian Bullseye on it, running KDE/Plasma > > > as main > > > desktop environment and from time to

Aw: Re: How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-15 Thread Tobias Diekershoff
ptoms) would be appreciated! > A good place to start is to check journald logs for previous boot: >     # journalctl --boot -1 Thanks for that hint, I'll have a look when the shutdown happens next time. Right now I don't have the time to figure out which last boot process was the last that failed ;-) Tobias

Aw: Re: How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-15 Thread Tobias Diekershoff
Hey David! > > perhaps someone of you can help me with tool / log file I have not > > investigated > > so far. I have a Thinkpad with Debian Bullseye on it, running KDE/Plasma as > > main > > desktop environment and from time to time it just turn off without prior > > indication to do so. > >

Aw: Re: How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-15 Thread Tobias Diekershoff
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2022 um 10:00 Uhr > On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 01:40:06PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > On 14.12.2022 12:22, Tobias Diekershoff wrote: > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > perhaps someone of you can help me with tool / log file I have not > > > investigated

Re: How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-14 Thread David Wright
On Wed 14 Dec 2022 at 08:22:01 (+0100), Tobias Diekershoff wrote: > > perhaps someone of you can help me with tool / log file I have not > investigated > so far. I have a Thinkpad with Debian Bullseye on it, running KDE/Plasma as > main > desktop environment and from time to time it just turn

Re: How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-14 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 01:40:06PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 14.12.2022 12:22, Tobias Diekershoff wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > > > perhaps someone of you can help me with tool / log file I have not > > investigated > > so far. I have a Thinkpad with Debian Bullseye on it, running

Re: How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-14 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 14.12.2022 12:22, Tobias Diekershoff wrote: Hey everyone, perhaps someone of you can help me with tool / log file I have not investigated so far. I have a Thinkpad with Debian Bullseye on it, running KDE/Plasma as main desktop environment and from time to time it just turn off without prior

How to investigate sudden shutdown?

2022-12-13 Thread Tobias Diekershoff
Hey everyone, perhaps someone of you can help me with tool / log file I have not investigated so far. I have a Thinkpad with Debian Bullseye on it, running KDE/Plasma as main desktop environment and from time to time it just turn off without prior indication to do so. It it not particular warm

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-23 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 06:22:57PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> Hm. With SysV, you can't either (spoiler alert: the shutdown process >> itself is the one doing the timing by sleeping until fulfillment of >> its task). But you always can cancel it (

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-23 Thread Anssi Saari
Sven Joachim writes: > Perhaps that the --show option was only added in systemd 250 and is not > available in Bullseye and older Debian releases. Except as a backport, Bullseye backports has systemd 251.3.

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Kamil Jońca
Sven Joachim writes: [...] > > Perhaps that the --show option was only added in systemd 250 and is not > available in Bullseye and older Debian releases. > > Cheers, >Sven Ach, indeed. Sorry. KJ -- http://wolnelektury.pl/wesprzyj/teraz/

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Urs Thuermann
Kamil Joñca writes: > kjonca@alfa:~%man shutdown > SHUTDOWN(8) > &

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:11:15PM +0100, Ximo wrote: > El 22/11/2022 a las 13:23, Urs Thuermann escribió: > > After shutdown -h I see no way to see this scheduled shutdown. > > Before systemd, I could always see the shutdown process with its > > arguments using ps(1). &g

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 21:11:55 +0100 Sven Joachim wrote: > > kjonca@alfa:~%sudo shutdown --show > > No scheduled shutdown. > > > > Am I overlooked something? > > Perhaps that the --show option was only added in systemd 250 and is > not available in Bulls

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Ximo
El 22/11/2022 a las 13:23, Urs Thuermann escribió: After shutdown -h I see no way to see this scheduled shutdown. Before systemd, I could always see the shutdown process with its arguments using ps(1). # date --date @$(head -1 /run/systemd/shutdown/scheduled |cut -c6-15)

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2022-11-22 20:18 +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: > Urs Thuermann writes: > >> After shutdown -h I see no way to see this scheduled shutdown. >> Before systemd, I could always see the shutdown process with its >> arguments using ps(1). > > Hm. > kjonca

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 08:18:31PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: > Urs Thuermann writes: > > > After shutdown -h I see no way to see this scheduled shutdown. > > Before systemd, I could always see the shutdown process with its > > arguments using ps(1). > > Hm

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Kamil Jońca
Urs Thuermann writes: > After shutdown -h I see no way to see this scheduled shutdown. > Before systemd, I could always see the shutdown process with its > arguments using ps(1). Hm. kjonca@alfa:~%man shutdown S

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 12:29:49PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 06:22:57PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Hm. With SysV, you can't either [change the time, but you can cancel] > The systemd shutdown(8) man page has a -c option for canceling a pending &g

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 06:22:57PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Hm. With SysV, you can't either (spoiler alert: the shutdown process > itself is the one doing the timing by sleeping until fulfillment of > its task). But you always can cancel it (shutdown -c with SysV, dunno

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 09:09:56AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 22 Nov 2022 at 15:56:48 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 08:48:25AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > There's a file, "scheduled&

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 09:09:56 -0600 David Wright wrote: > > > I haven't tried editing, say, the noisiness, to see whether I can > > > stop the flow of Wall messages on all my xterms. > > > > *My* shutdown has a command line option (-Q) for the

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 22 Nov 2022 at 15:56:48 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 08:48:25AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > There's a file, "scheduled", that's created in /run/systemd/shutdown, > > which contains the time, noisiness and dest

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 08:48:25AM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > There's a file, "scheduled", that's created in /run/systemd/shutdown, > which contains the time, noisiness and destiny of the shutdown. > I haven't tried editing, say, the noisiness, to see whether I

Re: How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 22 Nov 2022 at 13:23:14 (+0100), Urs Thuermann wrote: > After shutdown -h I see no way to see this scheduled shutdown. > Before systemd, I could always see the shutdown process with its > arguments using ps(1). > > Now, the call to shutdown returns to the shell imme

How to check for scheduled shutdown

2022-11-22 Thread Urs Thuermann
After shutdown -h I see no way to see this scheduled shutdown. Before systemd, I could always see the shutdown process with its arguments using ps(1). Now, the call to shutdown returns to the shell immediately leaving no process. It probably communicates to the init process 1, but, as usual

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-07-02 Thread mick crane
g job, make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. > > and it takes 1 minute 30 seconds to stop that and start shutdown. > > What could be causing that ? > > > > mick > > > That method of stopping the pc is quite dangerous to the hard drive, you > may kill the po

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-07-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Jun 2022 at 20:49:40 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 08:42:44PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Will Mengarini wrote: > > > I feel old. > > > http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/Big-Red-Switch.html > > > > Me too. This bu

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread gene heskett
am.de [22-06/29=We 16:46 +0200]: [...] the button triggers an orderly shutdown (otherwise the PC wouldn't get a chance to output a message) [...] I feel old. Go right ahead, or is that behind me? I'm 87, down to one eye as I just had laser surgery on the other. One of the hazards of the ultima

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 08:42:44PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Will Mengarini wrote: > > I feel old. > > http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/Big-Red-Switch.html > > Me too. This button pressing for shutdown frightens me. > Two years ago i had to craft a mol

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Will Mengarini wrote: > I feel old. > http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/Big-Red-Switch.html Me too. This button pressing for shutdown frightens me. Two years ago i had to craft a molly-guard for the on-off-button on top of this box: https://static3.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnai

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread Dan Ritter
make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. > > > and it takes 1 minute 30 seconds to stop that and start shutdown. > > > What could be causing that ? > > > > > > mick > > > > > That method of stopping the pc is qui

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread Will Mengarini
xteam.de [22-06/29=We 16:46 +0200]: > [...] the button triggers an orderly shutdown (otherwise > the PC wouldn't get a chance to output a message) [...] I feel old. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/Big-Red-Switch.html

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread tomas
t; It usually is very quick and to start up again. > > There is printer attached to other PC. > > Recent update of bookworm when turning off PC with power button there is > > the message, > > " stopping job, make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. > &g

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread Yvan Masson
attached to other PC. Recent update of bookworm when turning off PC with power button there is the message, " stopping job, make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. and it takes 1 minute 30 seconds to stop that and start shutdown. What could be causing that ? mick T

Re: stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread gene heskett
when turning off PC with power button there is the message, " stopping job, make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. and it takes 1 minute 30 seconds to stop that and start shutdown. What could be causing that ? mick That method of stopping the pc is quite dangerous t

stopping job before shutdown.

2022-06-29 Thread mick crane
button there is the message, " stopping job, make Cups quicker for external" or something like that. and it takes 1 minute 30 seconds to stop that and start shutdown. What could be causing that ? mick

Re: Atrasar o desligamento no processo de shutdown

2022-03-10 Thread Paulino Kenji Sato
Ola, On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 6:55 PM Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > Em princípio você pode colocar um script em > /lib/systemd/system-shutdown/ que chama um sleep de quanto tempo você > quiser, e o processo de desligamento vai esperar ele terminar. Veja a > manpage de `systemd-shutdo

Re: Atrasar o desligamento no processo de shutdown

2022-03-10 Thread Vitor Hugo
' para poder rodar um fsck e reparar. O processo de shutdown atualmente está muito rápido, então estou especulando que a causa da corrupção seja o corte no fornecimento de energia antes que o SSD grave de fato os dados. Para comprovar ou não essa especulação precisaria atrasar o power off após

Re: Atrasar o desligamento no processo de shutdown

2022-03-08 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 04:24:11PM -0300, Paulino Kenji Sato wrote: > Ola, > Estou tendo problemas de corrupção de FS em um SSD. > De vez em quando preciso iniciar um 'live linux' para poder rodar um fsck e > reparar. > O processo de shutdown atualmente está muito rápido, então esto

Atrasar o desligamento no processo de shutdown

2022-03-08 Thread Paulino Kenji Sato
Ola, Estou tendo problemas de corrupção de FS em um SSD. De vez em quando preciso iniciar um 'live linux' para poder rodar um fsck e reparar. O processo de shutdown atualmente está muito rápido, então estou especulando que a causa da corrupção seja o corte no fornecimento de energia antes que o

Re: Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-13 Thread José Luis González
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:13:28 -0600 Flacusbigotis wrote: > > I wonder if the package ntopng is necessary for something. > > See manpage gor ntopng it's for monitoring network resources/activity. > > So if you aren't interested in doing that then you don't need it installed. Yes, I have

Re: Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-12 Thread Flacusbigotis
> I wonder if the package ntopng is necessary for something. See manpage gor ntopng it's for monitoring network resources/activity. So if you aren't interested in doing that then you don't need it installed.

Re: Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 11 feb 22, 13:36:09, José Luis González wrote: > > I wonder if the package ntopng is necessary for something. If I remove > it nothing else complains. I didn't know this package before. At least on buster/arm64 nothing depends on it. Was the package manually installed or does the

Re: Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-11 Thread José Luis González
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 21:03:14 -0600 Flacusbigotis wrote: > Just a question to help you start troubleshooting: > > Does the shutdown finish quickly/quicker if you first stop the ntopng > systemd service manually before doing the full shutdown? I did a "# service status nto

Re: Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-11 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 2/11/22, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2022-02-11 at 00:58 +0100, José Luis González wrote: >> Hi, >> >> When shutting down, after upgrading to Debian 11, system shutdown hangs >> (freezes) for some time (about 1-2 minutes) anytime, making it >> bothersome to shut

Re: Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-11 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2022-02-11 at 00:58 +0100, José Luis González wrote: > Hi, > > When shutting down, after upgrading to Debian 11, system shutdown hangs > (freezes) for some time (about 1-2 minutes) anytime, making it > bothersome to shut the system down. > > The freeze happens afthe

Re: Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-10 Thread Flacusbigotis
Just a question to help you start troubleshooting: Does the shutdown finish quickly/quicker if you first stop the ntopng systemd service manually before doing the full shutdown? On Thu, Feb 10, 2022, 5:59 PM José Luis González wrote: > Hi, > > When shutting down, after upgrading to

Stalled system shutdown

2022-02-10 Thread José Luis González
Hi, When shutting down, after upgrading to Debian 11, system shutdown hangs (freezes) for some time (about 1-2 minutes) anytime, making it bothersome to shut the system down. The freeze happens afther the "Stopped target remote filesystems" status line. After a while "A stop

Re: Service stuck at shutdown

2021-11-12 Thread Erwan David
Le 11/11/2021 à 17:55, Erwan David a écrit : Le 11/11/2021 à 06:16, David Wright a écrit : A workaround that might shorten the wait, but only if you're confident that there aren't processes that need that long to complete, is to edit the line   DefaultTimeoutStopSec=90s   in

Re: Service stuck at shutdown

2021-11-11 Thread Erwan David
(for user erwan is said). How can I debug this, know which service is blocking the shutdown ? Assuming you system is using systemd then look at the logs for the last boot with: #journalctl -b-1 and scroll to the end where you will see what was going on during shutdown. Errors will likely

Re: Service stuck at shutdown

2021-11-10 Thread David Wright
top (for user erwan is said). > > > > > > How can I debug this, know which service is blocking the shutdown ? > > Assuming you system is using systemd then look at the logs for the last > > boot with: > > > > #journalctl -b-1 > > > > and scroll to the

Re: [DEBIAN-BR] halt vs shutdown

2021-09-14 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le mardi 14 septembre 2021 à 00:45 -0300, Gilberto F da Silva a écrit : > Estou surpreso commuma coisa. Achava que essas coisas de linha de > comando eram iguais em todas as distribuções. Na verdade em geral é, mas o Slackware em particular segue o SysV mais de perto, enquanto as outras são mais

Re: [DEBIAN-BR] halt vs shutdown

2021-09-14 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
never be > called directly. From release 2.74 on halt and reboot invoke > shutdown(8) if the system is not in runlevel 0 or 6. This means > that if halt or reboot cannot find out the current runlevel (for > example, when /var/run/utmp hasn't been initialized correctly and > /va

Re: [DEBIAN-BR] halt vs shutdown

2021-09-13 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
caso no systemd, e nada fala sobre o Slackware. >> ¿Que diz o man do Slackware? > > NOTES > > Under older sysvinit releases, reboot and halt should never be > called directly. From release 2.74 on halt and reboot invoke > shutdown(8) if the system is not in runlevel 0 or 6. Thi

Re: [DEBIAN-BR] halt vs shutdown

2021-09-10 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
10 set 2021 9:40 −3, Gilberto F da Silva: > No Slackware o halt desliga a máquina. man halt: ‘Note that on many SysV systems halt used to be synonymous to poweroff, i.e. both commands would equally result in powering the machine off. systemd is more accurate here, and

[DEBIAN-BR] halt vs shutdown

2021-09-10 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
, é a mesma coisa que os outros, mas sem desligar a >máquina. Ou seja, encerra o sistema operacional, mas deixa a máquina >ligada. Não vejo muita utilidade, na minha ignorância. Shutdown é uma palavra muito comprida para quando você morrendo de sono e só quer desligar a má

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Pablo Lorenzzoni
Olha... a classica diferenca entre poweroff, shutdown e halt eh: halt - termina todos os processos e encerra a CPU poweroff - exatamente igual ao halt, mas envia um comando ACPI para a placa-mae e para o PSU para que corte a energia. shutdown - eh igual ao poweroff, mas executa os scripts de

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Ednardo Lobo
On 09/09/2021 17:24, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: Le jeudi 09 septembre 2021 à 15:26 -0300, Ednardo Lobo a écrit : Desconfio que: 1) shutdown Encerra o SO. E a máquina. Pelo menos esse é o uso mais comum, embora ele seja versátil. Sim, você está certo! Grato, por corrigir

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le jeudi 09 septembre 2021 à 15:26 -0300, Ednardo Lobo a écrit : > Desconfio que: > > 1) shutdown > > Encerra o SO. E a máquina. Pelo menos esse é o uso mais comum, embora ele seja versátil. > 2) halt > > Encerra o SO (shutdown) e para, ou seja, não desliga o

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Ednardo Lobo
Desconfio que: 1) shutdown Encerra o SO. 2) halt Encerra o SO (shutdown) e para, ou seja, não desliga o hardware. 3) poweroff Encerra o SO (shutdown) e desliga o hardware. No Debian (10.10) os comandos shutdown, halt e poweroff são uma referência (link) simbólica para o comando: systemctl

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le jeudi 09 septembre 2021 à 12:24 -0300, Sinval Júnior a écrit : > nunca vi em máquinas i386, contudo era bastante comum em > arquiteturas, SUN Tinha Sun i386, mas imagino que fosse outro nível também. > IBM, SPARC, usando o comando halt, podíamos > inclusive trocar alguns processadores,

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Sinval Júnior
Leandro, nunca vi em máquinas i386, contudo era bastante comum em arquiteturas, SUN, IBM, SPARC, usando o comando halt, podíamos inclusive trocar alguns processadores, memória...Antigamente essas arquitetura eram bastante usadas em storage etc... Atualmente não sei como funciona. Com relação à

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
9 set 2021 9:21 −3, Sinval Júnior: > poderá fazer sentido, pelo menos em computadores antigos, efetuar > alguma manutenção Que manutenção faz‐se sem sistema operacional mas com a máquina ligada? O mais próximo que consigo imaginar seria ou /firmware/, que exige a reinicialização até onde eu

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
9 set 2021 à 7:37 −3, Vitor Hugo: > no caso de se utilizar um Wake-On-Lan seria mais aconselhável > utilizar o halt uma vez que a maquina não ficará desligada > totalmente? Não, a máquina fica completamente ligada, só sem sistema operacional ativo. O nível de energização, digamos assim, que

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-09 Thread Vitor Hugo
Entendo, no caso de se utilizar um Wake-On-Lan seria mais aconselhável utilizar o halt uma vez que a maquina não ficará desligada totalmente? Obrigado; Em 08/09/2021 17:33, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro escreveu: Il giorno mer 8 set 2021 alle ore 16:03 Vitor Hugo ha scritto: Boa

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-08 Thread Vitor Hugo
Boa tarde, o halt seria hibernar a maquina? Em 08/09/2021 15:54, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA escreveu: Le mercredi 08 septembre 2021 à 09:08 -0300, Vitor Hugo a écrit : Qual a diferença entre halt, shutdown e poweroff? Simplesmente evocações diferentes da mesma ação, mas o halt não

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-08 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
Il giorno mer 8 set 2021 alle ore 16:03 Vitor Hugo ha scritto: > > Boa tarde, o halt seria hibernar a maquina? Não. Como disse, é a mesma coisa que os outros, mas sem desligar a máquina. Ou seja, encerra o sistema operacional, mas deixa a máquina ligada. Não vejo muita utilidade, na minha

Re: halt vs shutdown

2021-09-08 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le mercredi 08 septembre 2021 à 09:08 -0300, Vitor Hugo a écrit : > Qual a diferença entre halt, shutdown e poweroff? Simplesmente evocações diferentes da mesma ação, mas o halt não desliga a máquina, enquanto o shutdown e o poweroff sim. -- Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA

halt vs shutdown

2021-09-08 Thread Vitor Hugo
Qual a diferença entre halt, shutdown e poweroff?

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:15:56PM +, Long Wind wrote: 3rd installation failure is probably not caused by problem disk but 1st and 2nd installation failure is Almost certainly not. Turning off *is not* a symptom of a bad disk. You have at least a cooling issue, and who knows what other

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:36:21PM +, Long Wind wrote: i've been warned "Core temperature above threshold" for a long time i just ignore it. probably it isn't cause of shutdown if it is, it can warn explicitly in /var/log that it will shutdown surely it can beep before shutd

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-10 Thread Long Wind
i've been warned  "Core temperature above threshold" for a long timei just ignore it.  probably it isn't cause of shutdownif it is, it can warn explicitly in /var/log that it will shutdownsurely it can beep before shutdown, but i didn't hear any beep it shutdown unexpectedly, it me

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-10 Thread Long Wind
On Thursday, September 10, 2020, 8:03:16 AM EDT, Michael Stone wrote: there was never anything reported that sounded remotely like a hard disk problem. 3rd installation failure is probably not caused by  problem diskbut 1st and 2nd installation failure is the pc is stable, it

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:03:22PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: After you recently already have had difficult to explain problems with a hard disk, there was never anything reported that sounded remotely like a hard disk problem.

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-10 Thread Marco Möller
as pc maintenance. i have removed heat sink but unable to install back. before that i have tested memory with memtest86+, it quickly shutdown. i think it's not memory's fault, if it is memtest86+ shall report error in red. Of course your hardware needs all fans clean and also the thermal

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-10 Thread Long Wind
heat sink but unable to install back. before that i have tested memory with memtest86+, it quickly shutdown. i think it's not memory's fault, if it is memtest86+ shall report error in red.

Re: my pc is shutdown unexpectedly

2020-09-09 Thread Felix Miata
Long Wind composed on 2020-09-10 04:52 (UTC): > possible cause : cpu too hot? > Sep 10 00:00:54 debian kernel: [ 9858.515989] CPU0: Core temperature/speed > normal > Sep 10 00:15:46 debian kernel: [10751.125312] CPU0: Core temperature/speed > normal > Sep 10 00:20:50 debian kernel:

Re: lxde + ligthdm Shutdown

2020-07-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 iul 20, 12:04:51, basti wrote: > Hello, when i try to shutdown from my lxde session i get:| > > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InteractiveAuthorizationRequired: > Interactive authentication required. Hmm, this worked for me out of the box. Is your user a mem

lxde + ligthdm Shutdown

2020-07-14 Thread basti
Hello, when i try to shutdown from my lxde session i get:| GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InteractiveAuthorizationRequired: Interactive authentication required. When i frist logout then I can Shutdown from ligthdm. OS: Debian Buster Best Regards |

Re: HP Device Manager loses network printer on shutdown

2020-05-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 18 May 2020 11:24:17 +0200 Frank Weißer wrote: Hello Frank, >Everytime I start my workstation (DebianEdu 9) I have to re-run setup >of the HP Device Manager , because the LaserJet Pro 200 color, >connected via network, is lost. The setup routine dousn't need to >connect to hp again, as

HP Device Manager loses network printer on shutdown

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Weißer
Hi! Everytime I start my workstation (DebianEdu 9) I have to re-run setup of the HP Device Manager , because the LaserJet Pro 200 color, connected via network, is lost. The setup routine dousn't need to connect to hp again, as id did at the first installation of the printer. Where do I have

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:03:19 +1100 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Also, there is a process to get one PC to download the updates, and > share that /var/cache/apt/archives/ to your other PCs You might look into apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng for that. -- Does anybody read signatures any more?

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-15 Thread Yvan Masson
this (not sure if it's your issue or not): https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837155 If /var resides on a separate file-system which is unmounted before unattended-upgrade-shutdown is run, it may repeatedly (by default for 10 minutes) try to acquire it's lock-file but fail since

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-15 Thread Curt
's this (not sure if it's your issue or not): https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837155 If /var resides on a separate file-system which is unmounted before unattended-upgrade-shutdown is run, it may repeatedly (by default for 10 minutes) try to acquire it's lock-file but fail since

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-15 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 15/10/2019 à 09:19, Yvan Masson a écrit : Le 15/10/2019 à 08:03, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : On 15/10/19 11:31 am, Keith Bainbridge wrote: How to prevent a repeat is the real question. My only suggestion is extend the time-out, but how long.  Maybe run manual upgrades on one machine every

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-15 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 15/10/2019 à 08:03, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : On 15/10/19 11:31 am, Keith Bainbridge wrote: How to prevent a repeat is the real question. My only suggestion is extend the time-out, but how long.  Maybe run manual upgrades on one machine every day, before shutting down the others??

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-15 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 15/10/19 11:31 am, Keith Bainbridge wrote: How to prevent a repeat is the real question. My only suggestion is extend the time-out, but how long.  Maybe run manual upgrades on one machine every day, before shutting down the others?? There was a response suggesting getting cron to run

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 11:31:22 +1100 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > It was intuition rather than any knowledge I had - beyond the fact > that sometimes upgrade takes longer than normal. > > How to prevent a repeat is the real question. Upgrades and updates often require fetching across the network,

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-14 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 14/10/19 7:42 pm, Yvan Masson wrote: You were right Keith: after applying some updates manually, remaining updates are properly installed with unattended-upgrade… Now I need to understand what was blocking. It was intuition rather than any knowledge I had - beyond the fact that

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-14 Thread Yvan Masson
12/10/2019 à 18:45, Yvan Masson a écrit : Hi list, I configured some Buster desktops in a school to upgrade automatically on shutdown via unattended-upgrades. I am almost sure it worked at first but it does not anymore. I would really appreciate any suggestion as I already spent a few hours

Re: unattended-upgrades does not install upgrades on shutdown

2019-10-13 Thread Keith Bainbridge
, I configured some Buster desktops in a school to upgrade automatically on shutdown via unattended-upgrades. I am almost sure it worked at first but it does not anymore. I would really appreciate any suggestion as I already spent a few hours on this issue without any result. Symptoms

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