Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc.

On 28.11.17 21:41, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > After trying to get various GUI drawing > > packages to function at the most basic level, > > and failing to produce anything, I'm just > > finishing the 8 drawings for my new house > > build (floor plan, elevations,

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Speaking of pic(1), this URL in the man page is broken Brian W. Kernighan, PIC — A Graphics Language for Typesetting (User Manual). AT Bell Laboratories, Computing Science Technical Report No. 116 (revised May,

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Erik Christiansen wrote: > Interesting ... I had not heard of it > previously. Looking at it on wikipedia, I see > "Most operations in Xfig are performed using > the mouse," For the first, I've had no luck > mouse-wrangling GUI drawing packages - it's > all so counter-intuitive, and nothing works

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Erik Christiansen wrote: > After trying to get various GUI drawing > packages to function at the most basic level, > and failing to produce anything, I'm just > finishing the 8 drawings for my new house > build (floor plan, elevations, sections, and > site plan), using raw postscript. That has >

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On Tue 28 Nov 2017 at 23:12:19 (+1100), Erik Christiansen wrote: > If I used a mouse, all the walls would differ in thickness, and only be > approximately in the right position. Yeah, there's probably snap-to-grid, > but that has to be too fine to add anything, if it's to handle arbitrary >

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On 28.11.17 07:58, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Tuesday, 28 Nov 2017 at 15:37, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > After trying to get various GUI drawing packages to function at the most > > basic level, and failing to produce anything, I'm just finishing the 8 > > drawings for my new house build (floor

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Hello there, if you want to make the investment in learning CAD and want to do drawings programmatically, then FreeCAD with the the CadQuery Module for FreeCAD (https://github.com/jmwright/cadquery-freecad-module) is an elegant option. CheersBrian On Tue, 2017-11-28 at 15:37 +1100, Erik

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On Tuesday, 28 Nov 2017 at 15:37, Erik Christiansen wrote: > After trying to get various GUI drawing packages to function at the most > basic level, and failing to produce anything, I'm just finishing the 8 > drawings for my new house build (floor plan, elevations, sections, and > site plan),

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On 23.11.17 21:35, Doug wrote: > > On 11/23/2017 05:06 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > > > > What you won't be given is a dialog box with > > > X and Y size and coordinates, and invited to > > > edit them, it doesn't work that way. > > > That's how an object-oriented drawing program >

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Gary R wrote: > I'm surprised that no one has mentioned > FreeCAD in this whole discussion. It is my > goto for any cad work. It has an architecture > workbench, is under heavy development and is > reasonably intuitive. It will be in your > distro. just apt-get install freecad. It also > handles

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On 11/24/2017 09:23 AM, Weaver wrote: On 2017-11-25 02:51, Cousin Stanley wrote: Emanuel Berg wrote: Is there a piece of software that works like gnuplot or pic/troff were you feed the program a script with instructions and data and then the program generates the drawing? You might

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On 2017-11-25 02:51, Cousin Stanley wrote: > Emanuel Berg wrote: > >>> Is there a piece of software that works >>> like gnuplot or pic/troff were you feed >>> the program a script with instructions and data >>> and then the program generates the drawing? >>> > >You might look at the

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Emanuel Berg wrote: >> Is there a piece of software that works >> like gnuplot or pic/troff were you feed >> the program a script with instructions and data >> and then the program generates the drawing? >> You might look at the Graphics Layout Engine available under debian stretch

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On sex, 24 nov 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote: If we are talking LaTeX now, does anyone have a "MWE" as they like to say? It absolutely doesn't have to be CAD by any standard other than the ability to draw simple geometrical objects and have them denoted with labels. There are several here:

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Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >> TikZ and PGF are absolutely awesome (package >> is texlive-pictures, BTW.). But quite >> a different kettle of fish: not a CAD >> program by a long shot. > > Definitely, but they do fit his new request: > > Is there a piece of software that works > like gnuplot

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On sex, 24 nov 2017, tomas wrote: TikZ and PGF are absolutely awesome (package is texlive-pictures, BTW.). But quite a different kettle of fish: not a CAD program by a long shot. Definitely, but they do fit his new request: Is there a piece of software that works like gnuplot or pic/troff

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:16:52AM +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: [...] > Asymptote, perhaps? > > If you're willing to add a little Latex around your drawing, the Tikz package. TikZ and PGF are absolutely awesome (package is texlive-pictures,

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On qui, 23 nov 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote: Is there a piece of software that works like gnuplot or pic/troff were you feed the program a script with instructions and data and then the program generates the drawing? That would be simpler and more to the point as I'm not designing anything, I'm just

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:00:27AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > t wrote: > > > Yeah. But generally, whatever Professional > > (TM). > > Here, does "professional" denote some quality > with the software or is it about who uses it > and how? Neither

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t wrote: >> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/figures/pic/llc > > :-) > > Now write an Elisp-to-pic compiler > > (seq (circle :radius 0.5 :label "best effort > core") (arrow :size 0.2) ...) This is something I wanted for years. But it has to be real-time so the moment you evaluate (plot-pixel 0 0

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t wrote: > Yeah. But generally, whatever Professional > (TM). Here, does "professional" denote some quality with the software or is it about who uses it and how? Because when I chop firewood, I do it with the most expansive axe in the hardware store. While this doesn't make me a professional,

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 09:33:18AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > t wrote: > > > For those of us around a little longer, > > perhaps you remember that time when GNU/Linux > > started to get some traction. At that time, > > Microsoft used to say that

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t wrote: > For those of us around a little longer, > perhaps you remember that time when GNU/Linux > started to get some traction. At that time, > Microsoft used to say that well, an OS wasn't > that hard, but for something really complex > like a web browser... the free software > couldn't

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 03:16:08AM -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: [...] > I would think precisely the opposite. Gaining control over the software > you use will prove really useful only when you are planning to use it > for a long time. The question

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On Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 02:06 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 03:39:58AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Doug wrote: > > > > > I do not disparage the hard work some devs > > > have put into Linux CAD routines, but I

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 03:39:58AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Doug wrote: > > > I do not disparage the hard work some devs > > have put into Linux CAD routines, but I don't > > think that's the way to go if you're going to > > do some serious CAD

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:29:06AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: [...] > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/figures/pic/llc :-) Now write an Elisp-to-pic compiler (seq (circle :radius 0.5 :label "best effort core") (arrow :size 0.2) ...)

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Doug wrote: > I do not disparage the hard work some devs > have put into Linux CAD routines, but I don't > think that's the way to go if you're going to > do some serious CAD work over the course > of time. ... why not? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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On 11/23/2017 05:06 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Joe wrote: What you won't be given is a dialog box with X and Y size and coordinates, and invited to edit them, it doesn't work that way. That's how an object-oriented drawing program would work. Well, this is certainly a first that I'm an OO guy

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t wrote: > The more I read your musings the more I think > you are looking for OpenSCAD. > > Here is a snippet out of some random .scad > file, the things OpenSCAD stores its data in: > > module strip(startpoint=[0, 0, 0]) { > translate(startpoint) > difference() { > cube([60,

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:37:30PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Is there a piece of software that works like > gnuplot or pic/troff were you feed the program > a script with instructions and data and then > the program generates the drawing? That

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Is there a piece of software that works like gnuplot or pic/troff were you feed the program a script with instructions and data and then the program generates the drawing? That would be simpler and more to the point as I'm not designing anything, I'm just want a computer representation of what

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Joe wrote: > What you won't be given is a dialog box with > X and Y size and coordinates, and invited to > edit them, it doesn't work that way. > That's how an object-oriented drawing program > would work. Well, this is certainly a first that I'm an OO guy by intuition, because yes, that is how

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:26:12 +0100 Emanuel Berg wrote: > Cousin Stanley wrote: > > > You might find useful information at the > > LibreCAD site [...] > > OK, thanks Cousin Stanley and Farmer Joe, so > the short answers to my question "how do I draw > an approximate rectangle

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Cousin Stanley wrote: > You might find useful information at the > LibreCAD site [...] OK, thanks Cousin Stanley and Farmer Joe, so the short answers to my question "how do I draw an approximate rectangle and then set the properties to the measured values" is 1. don't do it, and 2. use the

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:07:54 -0600 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 23 Nov 2017 at 09:05:51 (+), Joe wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:05:14 +0100 > > Emanuel Berg wrote: > > > > > Librecad seems good and I got it working > > > instantly on a Debian

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On Thu 23 Nov 2017 at 09:05:51 (+), Joe wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:05:14 +0100 > Emanuel Berg wrote: > > > Librecad seems good and I got it working > > instantly on a Debian box. > > > > Only how do I draw a box and then change the > > properties to specific side

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Emanuel Berg wrote: > Librecad seems good and I got it working > instantly on a Debian box. > > Only how do I draw a box and then change the > properties to specific side lengths? > You might find useful information at the LibreCAD site http://librecad.org/cms/home.html

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:46:46PM +0100, hdv@gmail wrote: > On 2017-11-23 09:08, Weaver wrote: > > > I don't think you'll find LibreCad is `dead'. > > I think you'll find it just takes a little more than five minutes to get > > on top of a

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On 2017-11-23 09:08, Weaver wrote: > I don't think you'll find LibreCad is `dead'. > I think you'll find it just takes a little more than five minutes to get > on top of a programme. > The traffic on a mailing list is also no indication of usage or how > `good' a package is. > Traffic may well be

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:05:14 +0100 Emanuel Berg wrote: > Librecad seems good and I got it working > instantly on a Debian box. > > Only how do I draw a box and then change the > properties to specific side lengths? > > For example, if I want to picture a building > that is

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> > For example, if I want to picture a building > > that is rectangular (from above) with one side > > 10m and the other 5m? > > > > I managed to make an approximate rectangle with > > the "rectangle" tool but how do I bring up > > properties so that I can assign the > > exact values? > > > > I

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On 2017-11-23 02:05, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Librecad seems good and I got it working > instantly on a Debian box. > > Only how do I draw a box and then change the > properties to specific side lengths? > > For example, if I want to picture a building > that is rectangular (from above) with one

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Librecad seems good and I got it working instantly on a Debian box. Only how do I draw a box and then change the properties to specific side lengths? For example, if I want to picture a building that is rectangular (from above) with one side 10m and the other 5m? I managed to make an

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On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 01:01:57PM -0500, Doug wrote: > install some kind of sound, and PCLOS doesn't know what to do with that. If > there is an Ubuntu version then it should certainly install in Debian, which > INVENTED the .deb system. Try it--the The advice to not install an Ubuntu package

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On 11/22/2017 05:36 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/21/2017 05:04 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Kent West wrote: I've recently discovered sweethome3d, and have enjoyed designing a new house for myself. CAD Software Free Download |

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Anil Duggirala wrote: > Librecad or Qcad are the best options to my > knowledge. QCad: QCad has been removed from wheezy for depending on qt3 and containing non- distributable fonts, patterns, libraries, and documentation. LibreCAD is the community-maintained qt4 port

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Anil Duggirala wrote: > Librecad or Qcad are the best options to > my knowledge. Both are in the repos as well. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Doug wrote: > > On 11/21/2017 05:04 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: >> Kent West wrote: >> >>> I've recently discovered sweethome3d, and have enjoyed designing a >>> new house for myself. >>> >> sweethome3d is in my repos but it says it is an "interior" design >>

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On 11/21/2017 05:04 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Kent West wrote: I've recently discovered sweethome3d, and have enjoyed designing a new house for myself. sweethome3d is in my repos but it says it is an "interior" design application and what I need is an "exterior" ditto :) No sign of DraftSight

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Joe wrote: > It looks to be a general-purpose CAD program, > with no obvious house/garden object library, > so I wouldn't have thought it would be much > of an improvement over LibreCAD (formerly > QCad). $ aptitude show librecad LibreCAD is an application for computer aided design (CAD) in two

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Joe wrote: > If you really need 3d, then you might try > openSCAD, where you basically write > subroutines and the graphic bit renders them, > not terribly photorealistically. But there > are lots of libraries for it, which may > include some useful garden stuff. You can > probably also find

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On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 23:04:14 +0100 Emanuel Berg wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > > I've recently discovered sweethome3d, and > > have enjoyed designing a new house > > for myself. > > sweethome3d is in my repos but it says it is an > "interior" design application and what I

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Kent West wrote: > I've recently discovered sweethome3d, and > have enjoyed designing a new house > for myself. sweethome3d is in my repos but it says it is an "interior" design application and what I need is an "exterior" ditto :) No sign of DraftSight tho so how would one acquire and install

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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > What software is typically used to do outdoor > drawings with houses, gardens, etc.? > > I know about Dia, Gimp, and such but was > wondering if there is specific software? > > It can be either "kid style" when you drag and

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On 11/21/2017 12:05 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: What software is typically used to do outdoor drawings with houses, gardens, etc.? I know about Dia, Gimp, and such but was wondering if there is specific software? It can be either "kid style" when you drag and drop items (as long as the

software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc.

What software is typically used to do outdoor drawings with houses, gardens, etc.? I know about Dia, Gimp, and such but was wondering if there is specific software? It can be either "kid style" when you drag and drop items (as long as the proportions are correct), or basically whatever tools