Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-19 Thread Lee
On 2/17/22, Tim Woodall wrote: >>> It's on my todo list, along with ntp, to move to something else... >> >> I've seen references to chrony and ntpsec as replacements. > > ntpsec is supposed to be an almost drop in replacement. If I'm interpreting the popcon pages right, ntpsec 228 users chron

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-17 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022, Lee wrote: On 2/12/22, Tim Woodall wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, Lee wrote: Any idea what the chances are of getting an enhancement request for the dhcp client to add an ignore option; that says not use the option given by the dhcp server? isc-dhcp-client? zero. https:/

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-16 Thread Lee
On 2/12/22, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, Lee wrote: > >> Any idea what the chances are of getting an enhancement request for >> the dhcp client to add an >> ignore option; >> that says not use the option given by the dhcp server? >> > isc-dhcp-client? zero. > > https://www.isc.org/dhc

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-11 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, Lee wrote: Any idea what the chances are of getting an enhancement request for the dhcp client to add an ignore option; that says not use the option given by the dhcp server? isc-dhcp-client? zero. https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ The client and relay portions of ISC DHCP are n

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 11:00:14AM -0500, Lee wrote: > *sigh* naturally I picked the "move it somewhere else" option that > won't prevent an upgrade from re-creating the file. Missing config files will not be reinstalled, unless you call dpkg with the "--force-confmiss" option. You should be fine

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Reco
On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 10:49:34AM -0500, Lee wrote: > >> My first thought was telling the machine to ignore the NTP server > >> address handed out via DHCP. Maybe there's a way to do that, but I > >> couldn't figure out how :( > > > > supercede ntp-servers "..." in dhclient.conf should do it for

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Reco
On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 11:00:14AM -0500, Lee wrote: > Any idea what the chances are of getting an enhancement request for > the dhcp client to add an > ignore option; > that says not use the option given by the dhcp server? apt install dhcpcd5 It can do this, it is called "nooption ntp_servers

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Lee
On 2/9/22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 05:44:25PM +0300, Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 09:05:51AM -0500, Lee wrote: >> > On 2/8/22, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Lee wrote: >> > >> How to tell systemd to leave the

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Lee
On 2/9/22, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 09:05:51AM -0500, Lee wrote: >> On 2/8/22, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Lee wrote: >> >> How to tell systemd to leave the ntpd config alone? >> > >> > What makes you think the two are connected i

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 05:44:25PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 09:05:51AM -0500, Lee wrote: > > On 2/8/22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > >> How to tell systemd to leave the ntpd config alone? > > > > > > What mak

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 09:05:51 -0500 Lee wrote: > 2nd thought was telling the DHCP server to not hand out an NTP server > address to this one machine, but that's another damnifi know how to. If you are running isc-dhcp-server, look for "option ntp-servers" in /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf. Another way to d

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 09:05:51AM -0500, Lee wrote: > On 2/8/22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Lee wrote: > >> How to tell systemd to leave the ntpd config alone? > > > > What makes you think the two are connected in any way? > > $ grep "Network

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-09 Thread Lee
On 2/8/22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Lee wrote: >> How to tell systemd to leave the ntpd config alone? > > What makes you think the two are connected in any way? $ grep "Network Time Service" syslog Feb 6 12:06:48 spot systemd[1]: Stopping Network Time Serv

Re: systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Lee wrote: > How to tell systemd to leave the ntpd config alone? What makes you think the two are connected in any way? Under bullseye, if the ntp package (which supplies the ntpd program) is installed, then systemd-timesyncd is removed. The two packages

systemd/dhcp v. ntpd

2022-02-08 Thread Lee
How to tell systemd to leave the ntpd config alone? I had everything working with a static ethernet config and then decided I wanted a media server for my ROKU. My understanding is the DLNA server has to be on the same subnet as the ROKU, so I joined my PC to the wlan ... and broke the ntpd servi