Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread deloptes
Erwan David wrote: > > systemd is NOT an init system. It is a global system pretending to > replace init, session management,dns, ntp, and more and more other > components with incomplete solutions thought only for the laptops of its > developers (see the "we won't support hard disks, we all use

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread Erwan David
Le 01/10/2017 à 21:49, David Wright a écrit : > On Tue 10 Jan 2017 at 20:54:50 (+0100), Steffen Dettmer wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > I'd rather keep it as simple as possible you can still use sysvinit as init >> >> I read that

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 08:57:36 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com sent: > > > This is called evolution. > > > > There are dissenting views, and y'all know that. > > Just to get my $0.02 in, evolution makes many mistakes. In fact, it > is a process of (accidental) trial and error. ;-) After

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Jan 2017 at 20:54:50 (+0100), Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > >>> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible > >> > >> you can still use sysvinit as init > > I read that trying to use sysvinit causes trouble and several

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 08:54:50PM +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > >>> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible > >> > >> you can still use sysvinit as init > > I read that

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread Joe
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:54:50 +0100 Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Michael Biebl > wrote: > >> > >> you can still use sysvinit as init > > I read that trying to use sysvinit causes trouble and several things > depend on

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread Steffen Dettmer
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Monday, 9 January 2017 22:49:02 CET Steffen Dettmer wrote: >> I'm looking at Jessie (Debian 8) man fsck. I found no refernce >> to systemd. I think this is some compatiblity feature of systemd. > > See

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread Steffen Dettmer
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible >> >> you can still use sysvinit as init I read that trying to use sysvinit causes trouble and several things depend on systemd at the moment. > The shell scripts used by

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread deloptes
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 03:39:06 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 09:14:48AM +0100, deloptes wrote: >> > Michael Biebl wrote: >> > > Am 10.01.2017 um 00:43 schrieb deloptes: >> > >> Steffen Dettmer wrote: >> > >>> I'd rather keep it as simple

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Jan 2017 at 12:51:09 (+0100), Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Monday, 9 January 2017 22:49:02 CET Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > I'm looking at Jessie (Debian 8) man fsck. I found no refernce > > to systemd. I think this is some compatiblity feature of systemd. > > See systemd.mount(5) and

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 03:39:06 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 09:14:48AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > > Michael Biebl wrote: > > > Am 10.01.2017 um 00:43 schrieb deloptes: > > >> Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > >>> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible > > >> > > >> you can

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday, 9 January 2017 22:49:02 CET Steffen Dettmer wrote: > I'm looking at Jessie (Debian 8) man fsck. I found no refernce > to systemd. I think this is some compatiblity feature of systemd. See systemd.mount(5) and systemd.swap(5) Compatiblity is done by systemd-fstab-generator HTH --

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 10:49:02PM +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > Because man page says so? Because fsck's job is to check fs? > Don't know what systemd interferes at all. See systemd-fsck(8). -- Jonathan Dowland Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description:

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 09:14:48AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Michael Biebl wrote: > > > Am 10.01.2017 um 00:43 schrieb deloptes: > >> Steffen Dettmer wrote: > >> > >>> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible > >> > >> you can still use sysvinit as

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-10 Thread deloptes
Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 10.01.2017 um 00:43 schrieb deloptes: >> Steffen Dettmer wrote: >> >>> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible >> >> you can still use sysvinit as init > > The shell scripts used by sysvinit are not simpler. More familiar maybe, > but not simpler. > > This is

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-09 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 10.01.2017 um 00:43 schrieb deloptes: > Steffen Dettmer wrote: > >> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible > > you can still use sysvinit as init The shell scripts used by sysvinit are not simpler. More familiar maybe, but not simpler. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-09 Thread deloptes
Steffen Dettmer wrote: > I'd rather keep it as simple as possible you can still use sysvinit as init or follow without-systemd.org regards

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-09 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, thank you for your quick reply. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:38 AM, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 08 Jan 2017 at 15:56:36 (+0100), Steffen Dettmer wrote: >> apparently is ignored and "1" is assumed instead, BUT systemd does not >> call fsck! fsck parsed the line as

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-08 Thread David Wright
On Sun 08 Jan 2017 at 15:56:36 (+0100), Steffen Dettmer wrote: > Hi, > > main problem was the disk indeed! Apparently there was a typo in > fstab, probably leading to a parse error (which isn't shown > unfortunately) then the value "0" in the "pass" row for fsck > apparently is ignored and "1" is

Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-08 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, main problem was the disk indeed! Apparently there was a typo in fstab, probably leading to a parse error (which isn't shown unfortunately) then the value "0" in the "pass" row for fsck apparently is ignored and "1" is assumed instead, BUT systemd does not call fsck! fsck parsed the line as

systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

2017-01-08 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, I think I found some more information. In short: "Failed at step exec spawning /bin/plymouth: no such file or directory" but I have no clue why it is suddenly missing or suddenly required. I found postings in the internet that simply installing plymouth seems not to solve this issue. What