Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: > On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: We need a list for each package! You can't ruly home in on your questions of interest until you have dedicated lists for each package.

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : >> Ahoj, >> >> it seems, that t

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: > On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org >>> wrote: Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : > Ahoj, > > it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for tes

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/07/2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : Ahoj, it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing users. >>> >>> I agree

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/24/14, Bret Busby wrote: > On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > wrote: >> >> >> Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : >>> Ahoj, >>> >>> it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing >>> users. >> >> I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... the

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/07/2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : >> Ahoj, >> >> it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing >> users. > > I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... theoretically > at least), so we could imagine

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/23/14, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2014 03:55:36 The Wanderer wrote: >> Then people promptly started expressing confusion over the whole thing, >> and here we are. > > Curt often loses me. He is well named. ;-) I recommend going back to read that initial reply from "Dr. Jeckyll

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 July 2014 03:55:36 The Wanderer wrote: > Then people promptly started expressing confusion over the whole thing, > and here we are. Curt often loses me. He is well named. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 04:34 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2014 17:29:11 The Wanderer wrote: >> Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Seemed obvious enough to me, but I'm not >> necessarily a typical audience. > > I got lost at "Have you undergone a person

Re: VLC error polluting terminal ( was: Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? ) )

2014-07-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 22 iul 14, 12:28:20, The Wanderer wrote: > > The trouble is that you didn't then change the Subject line, so > less-well-behaved mail clients will still sort it as part of the same > thread, and even for people who use better ones the message is still > being presented as being about the su

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 17:29:11 The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 07/22/2014 12:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:35:58 Curt wrote: > >> On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I sus

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread berenger . morel
Le 22.07.2014 15:38, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : And emacs ... just ... wierdo! Yeah, vim is better :) (let's change the nowaday usual trolling about systemd and go back to good old traditional trolls :p) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 12:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:35:58 Curt wrote: > >> On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it >>> isn't there. As far as I can see, Doctor Miles F

Re: VLC error polluting terminal ( was: Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? ) )

2014-07-22 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 12:16 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > Concerning burying my request for help in an existing thread. I used > Emacs to delete the reply-to header line and thought that would be > enough. Obviously, not. I have learned yet another thing not t

Re: VLC error polluting terminal ( was: Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? ) )

2014-07-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140722_1037+0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 22.07.2014 00:00, Paul E Condon a écrit : > >Please help. > > Wow nice off-topic... I have no idea about where this is related to > the question of the interest of splitting debian-user ML into a > stable and a testing ML... >

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:35:58 Curt wrote: > On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:03:17 Curt wrote: > >> now you've turned into Mr. Miles. > > > > Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it isn't > > there. As far as I can see, Doctor Miles Fidelman

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman wrote: Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit died? Huh? You were Dr. Fidelman and now you've turned into Mr. Miles. If there's a Dr. Fidelman out there - it ain't me. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:58:16 -0400 Miles Fidelman napísal: > Slavko wrote: > > Ahoj, > > > > Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman > > napísal: > > > >> Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with > >> testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:03:17 Curt wrote: >> now you've turned into Mr. Miles. > > Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it isn't there. > As > far as I can see, Doctor Miles Fidelman sometimes calls himself, Miles > Fidelman or M. Fid

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 15:03:17 Curt wrote: > now you've turned into Mr. Miles. Where do you get the Mr. from? I can't see it. I suspect it isn't there. As far as I can see, Doctor Miles Fidelman sometimes calls himself, Miles Fidelman or M. Fidelman. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 03:47:36PM CEST, Slavko said: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman > napísal: > > > Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with > > testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a > > very bad idea.

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit died? >> >> > Huh? > You were Dr. Fidelman and now you've turned into Mr. Miles. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Curt wrote: On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman wrote: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a very bad idea. Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit died? Huh? -- In theory, t

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman napísal: Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a very bad idea. Someone inhibit you to subscribe to both? What - you don't

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-22, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with > testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a > very bad idea. Have you undergone a personality transplant or has your rabbit died? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:33:28 -0400 Miles Fidelman napísal: > Some of us are actually interested in knowing what's going on with > testing, before it becomes stable. Separating the lists seems like a > very bad idea. Someone inhibit you to subscribe to both? regards -- Slavko http:/

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/22/14, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 7/22/14, David Guntner wrote: >> Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >>> There is one >>> >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ >>> >>> but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily >>> used list and that it's not a list for frea

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/22/14, Paul E Condon wrote: > I use Wheezy. I have been using Debian since Potato, as I remember, I > started with Debian just after Y2K. I started out to write about the > debian-testing ML but first I need help with a crazyness in my mail > system that I just noticed, and must be a reinstal

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 7/22/14, David Guntner wrote: Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: There is one https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily used list and that it's not a list for freaking out about systemd. Neither is

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/22/14, David Guntner wrote: > Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >> There is one >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ >> >> but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily >> used list and that it's not a list for freaking out about systemd. > > Neither is this o

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM, wrote: > > Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : > >> it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing > >> users. > > > > I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... theoretically at > > least)

VLC error polluting terminal ( was: Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? ) )

2014-07-22 Thread berenger . morel
Le 22.07.2014 00:00, Paul E Condon a écrit : Please help. Wow nice off-topic... I have no idea about where this is related to the question of the interest of splitting debian-user ML into a stable and a testing ML... Anyway, we can guess from what you posted that you have started vlc som

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-21, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > [0x8c579e8] main libvlc error: vlc_object_find_name("puzzle") is not safe! > This appears in the window that was running Mutt and displaying the incoming This is vlc (a media player) complaining; what this has to do with mutt or your email workflow escap

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 21 iul 14, 16:00:04, Paul E Condon wrote: > I use Wheezy. I have been using Debian since Potato, as I remember, I > started with Debian just after Y2K. I started out to write about the > debian-testing ML but first I need help with a crazyness in my mail > system that I just noticed, and mus

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-21 Thread Paul E Condon
I use Wheezy. I have been using Debian since Potato, as I remember, I started with Debian just after Y2K. I started out to write about the debian-testing ML but first I need help with a crazyness in my mail system that I just noticed, and must be a reinstall of wheezy that I completed a few days ag

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-21 Thread David Guntner
Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:56 PM, David Guntner wrote: >> Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >>> >>> There is one >>> >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ >>> >>> but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily >>> used list and tha

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-21 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:56 PM, David Guntner wrote: > Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >> >> There is one >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ >> >> but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily >> used list and that it's not a list for freaking out about syste

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-21 Thread David Guntner
Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > There is one > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ > > but a quick look at the its archives shows that it isn't a heavily > used list and that it's not a list for freaking out about systemd. Neither is this one, but that doesn't seem to stop people...

Re: testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-21 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM, wrote: > Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : >> >> it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing >> users. > > I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... theoretically at > least), so we could imagine that different MLs for

testing-dedicated ML? ( was Re: End of hypocrisy ? )

2014-07-21 Thread berenger . morel
Le 21.07.2014 15:31, Slavko a écrit : Ahoj, it seems, that there can good idea to provide separate ML for testing users. I agree, since testing is not for normal users (well... theoretically at least), so we could imagine that different MLs for (beta-)testing and productive usage (question