Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-19 Thread kmself
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 11:36:12PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 11:55:23PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: Also, as this started off as a Debian thread somewhere/somehow, do you have any suggestions for auditing a box through dpkg / apt,

Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-17 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
You should have a look a osh: $ apt-cache show osh Package: osh Priority: extra Section: shells Installed-Size: 67 Maintainer: Preston Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 1.7-6 Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2), libncurses5, base-files (= 2.1.6) Suggests: nvi Architecture: i386 Size: 45946 MD5sum:

Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-16 Thread kmself
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:38:11PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 03:47:48PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: But you've got zero control of commands available, and no logging of what commands are being run as root. true, but this goes back to

Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 11:55:23PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: I'm aware of these limitations. You've got to work out acceptible policies and risks while providing the tools to get the job done. The problem I've had with direct root access is that users come on as root fromsome

Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-15 Thread kmself
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 03:11:42PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:31:27PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: you could also accomplish this by creating mulitple uid=0 accounts with different passwords, at least that way if Tim gets his user password

Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 03:47:48PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: But you've got zero control of commands available, and no logging of what commands are being run as root. true, but this goes back to my original comment that allowing a user account to run anything as sudo does nothing but

using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-14 Thread kmself
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:23:14PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 08:56:32PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: I use sudo, logged in as a regular user. It's generally considered a security risk to be logged in as root, and a bit less of a risk to use

Re: using sudo (was Re: bash login for root)

2000-09-14 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:31:27PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: The advantage in a multiuser environment is that you providing (and controlling) root access at the user level rather than at the system level. Eg, Tim, Bob, Alice, and Nate have access to a system. Tim, Alice, and Nate