Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 02:09:54PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 30 iul 12, 21:33:38, Chris Bannister wrote: JFTR, you don't need accelerated graphics to watch a video. But you may need something like VDPAU. Ohh, OK. Interesting ... -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 30. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:55:16 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 30/07/12 07:02 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: (...) KMS is a wonderful feature, but I personally would rather see good OpenGL support than KMS, though. Nouveau's getting there, but it's support

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 31. Juli 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: Am Montag, 30. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:55:16 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 30/07/12 07:02 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: (...) KMS is a wonderful feature, but I personally would rather see good OpenGL support

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 31. Juli 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: But then one might argue why use integrated graphics at all. Well my main argument is that I am really quite fond with the Intel graphics. drivers that is. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 29. Juli 2012 schrieb Michael P. Soulier: On 29/07/12 11:15 AM, Gary Dale wrote: Any card you buy will likely work, either with the open source drivers or the proprietary ones. With Wheezy on the verge of becoming the current stable release, you shouldn't run into problems

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 29. Juli 2012 schrieb Gary Dale: On 29/07/12 03:21 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 29/07/12 02:23 PM, Gary Dale wrote: Interesting. You'd think NVidia would keep their proprietary drivers current with their hardware. ATI certainly does. I wouldn't worry about support

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Fletcher
hvw59601 hvw59601 at care2.com writes: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Then choose one that you like (because of price/design) and then check about its current support status in Linux ecosystem, though I would go for nvidia; their

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Gary Dale
On 30/07/12 03:04 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: hvw59601hvw59601at care2.com writes: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Then choose one that you like (because of price/design) and then check about its current support status in Linux ecosystem, though

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 07:04:34AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: Actually, right now, the nVidia-provided nVidia driver packaged in Debian has a number of problems with 3D support on several cards. For example I use an nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ which is 2-3 years old -- in other words, neither

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 07/30/2012 03:25 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 30/07/12 03:04 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: hvw59601hvw59601at care2.com writes: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Then choose one that you like (because of price/design) and then check about its current

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 iul 12, 21:33:38, Chris Bannister wrote: JFTR, you don't need accelerated graphics to watch a video. But you may need something like VDPAU. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread hvw59601
Mark Fletcher wrote: hvw59601 hvw59601 at care2.com writes: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Then choose one that you like (because of price/design) and then check about its current support status in Linux ecosystem, though I would go for

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Gary Dale
On 30/07/12 07:02 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: On 07/30/2012 03:25 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 30/07/12 03:04 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: hvw59601hvw59601at care2.com writes: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Then choose one that you like (because of

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Fletcher
Chris Bannister cbannister at slingshot.co.nz writes: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 07:04:34AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: Actually, right now, the nVidia-provided nVidia driver packaged in Debian has a number of problems with 3D support on several cards. For example I use an nVidia GeForce

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Fletcher
Gary Dale garydale at rogers.com writes: On 30/07/12 03:04 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: hvw59601hvw59601at care2.com writes: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Then choose one that you like (because of price/design) and then check Yet

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I experienced Nouveau as a PITA only. I had no issues with the proprietary 17x, but serious issues with 2xx for a while on Arch and Ubuntu, but at the moment current 2xx don't cause issues anymore. I'm not sure if it really was the proprietary driver, X or another package that did cause the

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:55:16 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 30/07/12 07:02 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: (...) KMS is a wonderful feature, but I personally would rather see good OpenGL support than KMS, though. Nouveau's getting there, but it's support for OpenGL (Through Gallium.) isn't really mature

what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread Michael P. Soulier
I'm currently using an older AMD system with Debian Squeeze, using an Nvidia GeForce FX 5500. This work well on Squeeze with the nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx package and nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms, and I'm able to play Flightgear. I'm looking to buy a new system and I'd like to be able to run the

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm currently using an older AMD system with Debian Squeeze, using an Nvidia GeForce FX 5500. This work well on Squeeze with the nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx package and nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms, and I'm able to play Flightgear.

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/07/12 10:41 AM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm currently using an older AMD system with Debian Squeeze, using an Nvidia GeForce FX 5500. This work well on Squeeze with the nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx package and nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms, and I'm able to play Flightgear. I'm looking to

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread hvw59601
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm currently using an older AMD system with Debian Squeeze, using an Nvidia GeForce FX 5500. This work well on Squeeze with the nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx package and nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms, and I'm able to

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 29/07/12 11:15 AM, Gary Dale wrote: Any card you buy will likely work, either with the open source drivers or the proprietary ones. With Wheezy on the verge of becoming the current stable release, you shouldn't run into problems with proprietary drivers not working with the latest X server.

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/07/12 01:42 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 29/07/12 11:15 AM, Gary Dale wrote: Any card you buy will likely work, either with the open source drivers or the proprietary ones. With Wheezy on the verge of becoming the current stable release, you shouldn't run into problems with

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 29/07/12 02:23 PM, Gary Dale wrote: Interesting. You'd think NVidia would keep their proprietary drivers current with their hardware. ATI certainly does. I wouldn't worry about support though. You can always fall back to VESA modes until the drivers catch up. Unless NVidia suddenly

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/07/12 03:21 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 29/07/12 02:23 PM, Gary Dale wrote: Interesting. You'd think NVidia would keep their proprietary drivers current with their hardware. ATI certainly does. I wouldn't worry about support though. You can always fall back to VESA modes until the