Re: xfree86 4.4.0 vs. XOrg?

2004-07-05 Thread John Muller
Thomas Dickey wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --=-=-= Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is XOrg driver-compatible with xfree86? What do you mean by driver compatible? The changes made are to the modular tree (as you've read by that

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-05 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 00:39:37 - Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: essentially it demands equal treatment - the notion of which is repugant to some people While (as posts of mine in this list will demonstrate) I'm no big fan of Slashdot, it's easy to see why you don't like it. From

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-05 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:13:17 +0200 David Fokkema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I (think I) have read the previous thread about the license change, but probably not good enough. Would someone care to explain to me what exactly is the fuss about the license change? I understand that XFree86 has the

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-05 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:13:17 +0200 David Fokkema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I (think I) have read the previous thread about the license change, but probably not good enough. Would someone care to explain to me what exactly is

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 03:50:01PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken the X version in debian, despite being 4.3 is more in the direction of a pre version of 4.4 (just before the license change).

Re: xfree86 4.4.0 vs. XOrg?

2004-07-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --=-=-= Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is XOrg driver-compatible with xfree86? What do you mean by driver compatible? The changes made are to the modular tree (as you've read by that link). Can you

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread jack kinnon
Hi, I'm not familiar with those licencing stuff. Does it mean that future software fr xfree86 will no more be free? I have tried to search apt-get.org but it doesn't seem to work. It can't find even Debian packages I am currently using. Looks like I have to stick with 4.3.0 for the moment. How

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 07:07:41AM -0700, jack kinnon wrote: I have tried to search apt-get.org but it doesn't seem to work. It can't find even Debian packages I am currently using. Apt-get.org is specifically for NON-STANDARD debs, that is, for things that aren't in the current release

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Bob Proulx
jack kinnon wrote: I'm not familiar with those licencing stuff. Does it mean that future software fr xfree86 will no more be free? Yes, that is correct. XFree86 changed their copyright recently and it is no longer free. The major distros have dropped it due to the new licensing restrictions.

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 11:13:52AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: jack kinnon wrote: I'm not familiar with those licencing stuff. Does it mean that future software fr xfree86 will no more be free? Yes, that is correct. XFree86 changed their copyright recently and it is no longer free. The

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 07:07:41AM -0700, jack kinnon wrote: Hi, I'm not familiar with those licencing stuff. Does it mean that future software fr xfree86 will no more be free? Xfree86 is still free and you can download the source at www.xfree86.org. I am not sure exactly what the problem

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 08:13:17PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 11:13:52AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: jack kinnon wrote: I'm not familiar with those licencing stuff. Does it mean that future software fr xfree86 will no more be free? Yes, that is correct.

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that is correct. XFree86 changed their copyright recently and it is no longer free. The major distros have dropped it due to the new licensing restrictions. This is not a Debian specific. Here are some slashdot articles on it. citing slashdot

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Kent West
Thomas Dickey wrote: Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that is correct. XFree86 changed their copyright recently and it is no longer free. The major distros have dropped it due to the new licensing restrictions. This is not a Debian specific. Here are some slashdot articles on it.

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for more detail in my other post, but essentially they also require you now to acknowledge their contribution along with any acknowledgment to other software distributed with it. essentially it demands equal treatment - the notion of which is

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-03 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On fredag 2. juli 2004, 15:24, jack kinnon wrote:  Is Xfree86 4.4.0 available for Debian stable? Apart from that 4.4.0 has license problems and will probably not go into Debian in any form, the answer to such question is usually a search on apt-get.org. If you can't find it there, the answer

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 10:55:27AM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On fredag 2. juli 2004, 15:24, jack kinnon wrote:  Is Xfree86 4.4.0 available for Debian stable? Apart from that 4.4.0 has license problems and will probably not go into Debian in any form, the answer to such question

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-03 Thread Thomas Dickey
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken the X version in debian, despite being 4.3 is more in the direction of a pre version of 4.4 (just before the license change). no judging by the bug-reports. It's 4.3 -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 03:50:01PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am not mistaken the X version in debian, despite being 4.3 is more in the direction of a pre version of 4.4 (just before the license change). no judging by the bug-reports. It's

xfree86 4.4.0 vs. XOrg?

2004-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- jack kinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Is Xfree86 4.4.0 available for Debian stable? If so, how do I download a copy? Read this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/debian-x-200403/msg03376.html (and follow-ups) So is XOrg driver

Re: xfree86 4.4.0 vs. XOrg?

2004-07-03 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is XOrg driver-compatible with xfree86? What do you mean by driver compatible? The changes made are to the modular tree (as you've read by that link). Can you be more specific, or elaborate. -- Thomas Adam = The Linux Weekend Mechanic --

Re: xfree86 4.4.0 vs. XOrg?

2004-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is XOrg driver-compatible with xfree86? What do you mean by driver compatible? The changes made are to the modular tree (as you've read by that link). Can you be more specific, or elaborate. Will XF86

xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-02 Thread jack kinnon
Hi folks, Is Xfree86 4.4.0 available for Debian stable? If so, how do I download a copy? Cheers __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: xfree86 4.4.0

2004-07-02 Thread Thomas Adam
--- jack kinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Is Xfree86 4.4.0 available for Debian stable? If so, how do I download a copy? Read this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/debian-x-200403/msg03376.html (and follow-ups) -- Thomas Adam = The Linux Weekend Mechanic -- http