Re: Latest licq packages seems broken

1999-11-18 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:55:00PM -0600, Christian Dysthe wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I upgraded to licq 0.7.1 on my potato box today. I didn't receive any
 error messages, but licq won't run now.
 
 When I try to run it I get:
 
 Illegal instruction
 
 Anyone know what might be wrong?
 
 TIA
 

This was a bug that was closed today.  Wait for your favorite mirror
to update and get the new licq.

Rob

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Re: Strange file names

1999-11-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, November 17, 1999, 3:45:18 PM, Rob wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 07:24:01AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
 I thought it was part of the script's syntax. (hmm.. what an
 enlightenment...)
 
 Oki

 18:39 ~ $ which [
 /usr/bin/[
 18:39 ~ $ type [
 [ is a shell builtin

 How strange.  I can't get dpkg to find what package provides the
 binary, either.

[ is test.  test is from shellutils.

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ATI?

1999-11-18 Thread luis
hello everybody:

which is the difference between an ATI AGP and an ATI Xpert AGP video
cards?

thnaks a lot


Linux as a router

1999-11-18 Thread Oki DZ
Hi,

I have an Intel/486 and want to set it up as a router.
I have installed the base slink system on it, but I'm still having
problem with the NE2K network card; the module for it can't be loaded.
But since Satan is not available for slink and the system is currently
non functional (nowadays, if your computer can't connect to a network,
basically it's not a computer), I'm going to install potato on it. (the
download is currently in progress)

Well, having a router with a network analyzer on board is slightly
overboard. But the aim is for testing, and I think the 800M space on its
disk can be made useful.

BTW, is anyone already familiar with Satan? Does it need an enormous
memory to do the scans? My machine has 8M of RAM. I need to scan only
one system; the Sparc that has slink on it. I'd like to know whether I
have set up the security settings of the system correctly.

Speaking about routers, could a Linux system be set as an SNMP device? I
read about snmp package in www.debian.org; does it the right package
for converting a PC to an SNMP device? 

Thanks in advance,
Oki


strange memory errors

1999-11-18 Thread Philip Thiem
I am running libc6.2.1.2-9 and stdc++2.10 2.95.2-2  in the last couple of
week I
upgraded to these packages and begun having some strange memory related
errors.

I've been working on some code in C/C++, and part of this involved a simple
string
class that takes caring of memory allocation, automated growing and
shrinking of
the character string memory, and null termination. I to use calloc as the
method of memory allocation so I would have less worries about null
termination and
garbage in the string buffer.  

All had seemed to work well, until I upgraded to these last releases, and
my program started crashing.  I pulled out gdb, and the first time gdb
reports a segfault in free().  I wasn't doing anything like freeing a freed
pointer, in fact, inside this class free is only called on destruction and
and reallocation.  The only other related function in used was of course
calloc() and also memncpy().  I am fairly certain certain my code was not
the source of the probably.  Recently I notice with a newer version of my
program I got working elsewhere, it wasn't crashing in free, but I was
getting strange behavior from calloc.  I would run this on a system with
128megs of ram with only a couple consoles open, and calloc would return
NULL.  which eventually in my class causes a bad_alloc exception to be
thrown.  I can upload this code to a ultrasparc and it will execute and
compile just fine(under g++ probably different version)  

Is there some new bug in this version of libc?  I am attaching a copy of my
main memory reallocation function recalloc, and inthis case I am passing a
reference to the string
size variable, 36 for the size, and null for the void pointer.

Philip Thiem
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Interests: Security, Operating Systems, Numerical Computing,
   Algorithm Analysis, Discrete/Linear/Modern Algebra,#include memory.h

/**
** recalloc
**-
**THIS IS A SWEET FUNCTION
** It uses calloc for dynamically resizing memory sizes
** *s must represent **t -- PERIOD
** all out arguments ARE LEFT ALONE till possibility of
**error has passed.  so if you get an error the
**memory is still intact
**here are the for arugments
** *s = ns nothing happens
** *s zero and ns is non-zero  acts like calloc
** *s non-zero and ns is zero  acts like free
** otherwise ns is callocated, and the min(*s,ns) 
**is copied
**return codes
**  0 aokay
**  BADINFO stop giving me bad information
**  COPYERR should never happen, an error in copying
**  MEMERR  error allocating RAM
** /
size_t recalloc (unsigned long *s, 
 unsigned long ns, 
 void ** t)
{
   void * n=0;/* a temp allocated memory variable */

   if (!s || !t) return BADINFO;
   
   if (!(*t || *s) || (*t  *s)) /* if *t = *s */
   {
  if (*s == ns) return 0;/* nothing to do if no sz change */

  if (ns)/* if there is a new size  0*/
  {
 if((n=calloc(ns,1))) /* if memory can be allocated */
 {
if (*s)/* if there exists data*/
{
   if (!memcpy(n, *t, MIN(*s, ns)))  /* if is uncopiable */
   {
  free(n);/*free the new mem   */
  return COPYERR;/*return an error*/
   }
   free(*t);  /*free if ok */
}
 }
 else return MEMERR;/* no memory allocate is err  */
  }
  else free(*t);/* act like free by (*s  ns)*/
/* as *t = *s   */
  *s = ns;  /* *s = new size */
  *t = n;   /* change old to new  */
  return 0; /* return aokay   */
   }
   
   return BADINFO;  /* and error of course*/
}



Re: pppd Crashes Serial Port

1999-11-18 Thread John Hasler
aphro writes:
 dont trust that infomration it can be flawed.  the kernel just spits out
 what is standard for those serial ports it does not detect conflicts or
 even the right IRQ at times

The information is correct at boot, however, the serial ports can be
rearranged in the init scripts.
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trouble installing debian

1999-11-18 Thread Chris Acheson
I'm having trouble installing debian on my system.  It's an IBM PS/1,
486sx33 w/ 8mb ram, and a 1.2gb quantum fireball hard drive, with 5
partitions.  I put the rescue disk in my floppy drive, reboot, and press
enter at the boot: prompt.  There is some disk activity for a few
seconds, and then the system freezes (the floppy drive light stays on, but
there is no activity).  I've tried several things to fix this problem, such
as using different disks with the resc1440.bin disk image, all of them
surface scanned before rawriting, using the resc1440-safe, resc1440-tecra,
resc1440-safe-tecra disk images, and booting by typing linux
floppy=thinkpad.  Is there any other way that I can get linux to boot from
my floppy drive?  If not, would installing off of my HD's 5th partition,
reformatting partitions 1-4, and then reformatting partition 5 once linux
is up and running cause problems?  DOS and OnTrack are on the 1st
partition, and win95 is on the 2nd.


Chris Acheson


Re: diff caches stuff in memory?

1999-11-18 Thread debuser
I too doubt this is directly related to diff (but I could be wrong).  Is
the clean_dir by chance on a network share?  I did have a similar problem
with a Samba share.  If someone logged onto the Samba machine and modified
a file, then a Windows machine on the network would not detect that the
file had been changed because the Windows machine was caching the file. 
This was fixed by putting the option oplocks = False in the smb.conf
file.  I'm not sure if NFS exported directories might have similar
problems.  This probably doesn't help, but I thought it might be worth a
shot.

Gerry

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, David Wright wrote:

 Quoting Colin Marquardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  apparently diff caches stuff in memory.
 
 That seems unlikely. I thought linux did that itself.
 
  I noticed that when I wanted to make a patch with
  
 diff -urN clean_dir patched_dir  my_patch
  
  The patch came out fine, but then I realized that clean_dir wasn´t
  really clean, so I made a new clean version *with the same* directory
  name.
  
  The second time I ran diff it went really fast. Too fast: it didn´t
  examine the files in clean_dir at all, it just used the data from
  the previous run which it had cached, so my patch was the same as
  before (wrong).
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by made a new clean version.
 (I'm sure you know that -N means any empty files that were
 cleaned away will have no effect on diff's output.)
 
  How can I get diff to forget what it saw? The manpage doesn´t tell
  me. (I didn´t think about `touch'ing the directory then, but I
  untarred clean_dir from a tarball, so it should have gotten a newer
  time stamp).
 
 I didn't know diff bothered about timestamps, and I doubt kernel
 caching uses them either. (Of course, programs like tar and zip do.)
 
 So, were I examining evidence, I'd be interested to know how you
 cleaned clean_dir, and I'd want to see a log showing diff getting
 the wrong answers (i.e. the diff output and two cats of affected
 files).
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: PHP4 packages will be soon uploaded

1999-11-18 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote:

 There were lots of questions about php4 and when it will be packaged.
 4.0b3 was released today, I'm now testing how it compiles and works with
 shared modules, I will package it this week. Expect an upload on Sunday.
 For now there will only be an apache module with separate modules for
 mysql, postgres, gd, xml and snmp. A cgi version and more modules will be
 arriving later.

Just to let you know about the progress... it builds, loads, seems to
work. I could even set apache up to load both php3 and php4 modules. This
will need a newer php3 upstream though (or a patch applied to the current
3.0.12), so php4 will conflict with php3 at the beginning. Don't worry,
the conflict will disappear later :)
Anyway this is nice:
Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU PHP/4.0b3 PHP/3.0.13-dev
;)

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Re: Debian SPARC

1999-11-18 Thread ferret


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:42:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I'm running a hybrid slink/potato system on a Sparc IPX right now. yes,
  slink is in general less stable/less working than potato. OTOH, potato and
  2.2.13 will not run at all on my system, probably because I use a serial
  console.
  
 
 Since this is a problem we need to address before release, can you be
 specific to the problems you are having?

This is a console log of a normal 2.2.13 boot of my IPX, kernel compiled
on the IPX, console on ttya, before I wiped the drive (AM Nov 17) and
reinstalled slink. Potato at that time was not letting me log in on
console (PM Nov 16) saying something about a 'function not implimented' on
/dev/ttyS0

BTW, kernel 2.2.13 compiled with slink (about noon, Nov 17) booted about
10-20 minutes ago with the same error. (except this time I purged
setserial) 2.2.13 took about 4-5 hours to build.

I'm booting with 2.0.35 (from the slink install disks) and I'm currently
compiling 2.0.35 with the sparc patches (from the slink packages) and will
see if that one likes me.

I'm running slink with potato's apt, parts of debhelper that aren't in
sparc's slink copied from my i386 slink's debhelper, and local-compiled
apt-move (slow 21.6k modem connection, so I'm making up a local mirror for
later reinstalls)

I'd hoped to use the box as a dialup gateway, but with all this (and
having learned just how badly the serial ports on it suck) I'll offer it
up to test stuff.

-- Ferret no baka


Power-Up State Test 
Context Register Bit Test 
Context Register Addressing Test 
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context  
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0001 
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0002 
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0003 
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0004 
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0005 
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0006 
Segment Map RAM MATS Pattern Test, Context 0007 
Page Map RAM MATS Pattern Test 
Limit 0 Register Test 
Counter Interrupt Level 10 Test 
Limit 1 Register Test 
Counter Interrupt Level 14 Test 
WARNING: Unable to determine keyboard type
Synchronous Error Reg Test 
Synchronous Error Virtual Address Reg Test 
Asynchronous Error Reg Test 
Asynchronous Error Virtual Address Reg Test 
Asynchronous Error Data Reg1 Test 
Asynchronous Error Data Reg2 Test 
System Enable Register Bit Test 
Cache Data RAM MATS Pattern Test 
Cache Tag RAM MATS Pattern Test 
PTE Access Bit Test 
PTE Modify Bit Test 
PTE Write-Protect Bit Test 
PTE Write-Invalid Bit Test 
PTE Read-Invalid Bit Test 
PTE Type 2 Space Bit Test 
PTE Type 3 Space Bit Test 
Synchronous Timeout Test 
Asynchronous Timeout Test 
 16 MegaBytes Found in Address Range 0x to 0x00ff 
 4 MegaBytes Found in Address Range 0x0100 to 0x01ff 
DRAM Word MATS Pattern Test (0x00fe - 0x0100) 
Parity/Memory Control Registers Bit Test 
33-bit SIMM Parity Test 
FAILURE: No Trap Taken, Exp Trap Type = 0009
Setting Segment Map
Setting RAM Parity Mode
Mode set to 33-bit
Sizing Memory
Mapping ROM
Mapping RAM
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 0,0  dma esp sd st le 
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 1,0  Nothing there
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 2,0  Nothing there
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 3,0  cgsix 
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 0,0  dma esp sd st le 
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 1,0  Nothing there
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 2,0  Nothing there
Probing /[EMAIL PROTECTED],f800 at 3,0  cgsix 

SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
ROM Rev. 2.6, 20 MB memory installed, Serial #2165154.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:c:dc:80, Host ID: 572109a2.



Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board

Testing   20 megs of memory   20  19  18  17  16  15  
14  13  12  11  10   9   8   7   6   5  
 4   3   2   1   0  

SBus slot 0 le esp dma 
SBus slot 1 
SBus slot 2 
SBus slot 3 cgsix 

Initializing   4 megs of memory at addr   100   3   2   1   
0  
Initializing  16 megs of memory at addr 0  15  14  13  
12  11  10   9   8   7   6   5   4   3  
 2   1   0  

Type b (boot), c (continue), or n (new command mode)
n
Type  help  for more information
ok boot disk
Boot device: /sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0   File and 
args: 
SILO boot: 
Uncompressing image...

Unstable Stable Debian on a same machine.

1999-11-18 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Hello:  The question is, Can I have unstable 'potato' on my first primary
drive and stable 'slink' on my secondary drive ?

As of now, I'm having 'potato' on my primary HDD with two images of the 
stable '2.2.13' and unstable '2.3.28' kernel. LILO resides on the first
HDD ie. /dev/hda on the / partition /dev/hda2.  I want to install 'slink'
on my second slave HDD /dev/hdb.  How do I add image parameters on my LILO
on /dev/hda2 for booting into both 'potato' and 'slink' ?


ragOO, VU2RGU.


/tmp permissions changed!

1999-11-18 Thread J Horacio MG
Hi,

all of a sudden I realized the /tmp permissions had changed to:

2 drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 2048 Nov 19 02:57 tmp/

so, I changed it back to sticky with:

# chmod 777 /tmp
# chmod a+t /tmp

Now, it seems alright, but I'm not sure about the rest (most of all
/var).  Could anyone check against his/her filesystem, please?
(also, anyone has an idea why it may have changed?  All I've done is
untar/ungzip 'ed a file in /tmp as a normal user;  then, I've removed
all the files, but it kept asking me if I wanted to delete the file
substitutin such or such mode).

Now it looks like:

1 drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 1024 Nov 14 11:47 ./
1 drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 1024 Nov 14 11:47 ../
1 drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 1024 Nov 18 20:17 alt/
0 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root0 Nov 19 02:45 amnt/
2 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 2048 Nov 14 16:52 bin/
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Nov 18 20:12 boot/
1 drwxrwsr-x   2 root cdrom1024 Feb  1  1999 cdrom/
18 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root17408 Nov 19 02:45 dev/
5 drwxr-xr-x  57 root root 5120 Nov 19 02:45 etc/
1 drwxrwsr-x   2 root floppy   1024 Feb  1  1999 floppy/
1 drwxrwsr-x   5 root staff1024 Nov 10 00:30 home/
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Feb  1  1999 initrd/
3 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 3072 Nov 14 21:30 lib/
12 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root12288 Nov  9 00:41 lost+found/
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Feb  1  1999 mnt/
1 drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 1024 Nov 17 18:28 opt/
0 dr-xr-xr-x  31 root root0 Nov 19 02:45 proc/
1 drwx--   7 root root 1024 Nov 17 23:35 root/
2 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 2048 Nov 16 14:43 sbin/
2 drwxrwxrwt   5 root root 2048 Nov 19 02:59 tmp/
1 drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 1024 Nov 17 13:06 usr/
1 drwxr-xr-x  17 root root 1024 Nov 14 16:50 var/
0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   19 Nov  9 01:17 vmlinuz -
boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Nov 14 11:47 zip/


TIA

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Re: Debian SPARC

1999-11-18 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Since this is a problem we need to address before release, can you be
  specific to the problems you are having?
 
 This is a console log of a normal 2.2.13 boot of my IPX, kernel compiled
 on the IPX, console on ttya, before I wiped the drive (AM Nov 17) and
 reinstalled slink. Potato at that time was not letting me log in on
 console (PM Nov 16) saying something about a 'function not implimented' on
 /dev/ttyS0

Actually it says something about function not implemented on /dev/cua0,
see:
tty_io.c: process 1 (swapper) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software to use 
/dev/ttyS0
link /dev/console to /dev/ttyS0 and see if it helps.

And btw what is that message about
Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board
? :)
The depmod problem is known, it will soon be fixed.

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Re: PHP4 packages will be soon uploaded

1999-11-18 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
 Just to let you know about the progress... it builds, loads, seems to
 work. I could even set apache up to load both php3 and php4 modules. This

I just read something about the PHP4 release that mentions that Zend is
licensed under the QPL.  Since PHP4 uses Zend, isn't there a licensing
issue here?

Chris
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Re: PHP4 packages will be soon uploaded

1999-11-18 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Christopher S. Swingley wrote:

  Just to let you know about the progress... it builds, loads, seems to
  work. I could even set apache up to load both php3 and php4 modules. This
 
 I just read something about the PHP4 release that mentions that Zend is
 licensed under the QPL.  Since PHP4 uses Zend, isn't there a licensing
 issue here?

QPL is DFSG-compliant, though not among the nicest licences out there.

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Re: good GPLed backup program

1999-11-18 Thread Min Xu
Hi, 

 *- On 17 Nov, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote about good GPLed backup program
  Hi,
  
  Looking for good reliable backup program under linux.
  I know BRU is good but it is priced. I want a free product.
  -gnana
  
  
 
 How do you define good: efficient, flashy, easy to use, flexible or 
 multi-platform?  There are kbackup, afbackup, taper, amanda(network
 backups), tob and the usual afio, cpio and tar.  Each have their pros
 and cons. All are packaged for Debian. I personally wrote my own scripts
 for use with afio and am happy.
 

I have tried several of these by myself. At last I settled on taper. The big 
win is that taper generates an index file of the archive, so it will be very 
quick to restore any file in the archive if you need. It just seeks to that 
file and restores it and no need to read all the files through to find the 
correct one if your tape supports.

I recently had a hard disk failure. And taper helps me a lot to restore the 
system.







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Re: [Q] Setting up a primary DNS server for my domain name on a Debian box...

1999-11-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
/usr/doc/bind/dns-setup.txt.gz looks like it more or less describes the
way Paul Vixie says to set it up in some document I once read and can't
recall where ...

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

 : [Note: Would appreciate if you Cc-ed me on your replies to this thread]
 : 
 : Hi,
 : 
 : I have never configured bind before.  I have a Debian (slink+potato) box. 
 : I have bind 8.2.2p3-1 installed on this box.
 : 
 : I want this box to be the primary DNS server (the one that is listed in the
 : whois record) for my domain name.  The entries for the various things in my
 : domain would be pretty simple.  Only one 'A' record for foo.org  Everything
 : else would (at the moment) be CNAME records pointing to the A record.
 : 
 : I tried following the instructions in the DNS HOWTO.  Things work fine when
 : I do a nslookup from the machine which is running bind.  But when I do an
 : nslookup remotely (setting this machine that is running bind as the server)
 : all queries time out.
 : 
 : Would greatly appreciate step by step instructions (or pointers to step by
 : step instructions) on how to set up a primary domain name server on Debian.
 : 
 : Thanks a lot.
 : 
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Re: 14.4kbps PPP link?

1999-11-18 Thread Colin Marquardt
* Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sometimes pinging the remote host seems to provoke the data transfer
 to start again (or is this coincidence?)

I have seen this as well, with the 14.4k of my parents (Doze´95).

At my parents, I had multiple Netscape connections open, and all of
them would stall. Then, Stopping transfer and reloading it would
make all connections react again. I have not pinged or anything, but 
maybe any new request tells the remote host you are alive.

It seems that the remote host thinks that since you are accept things
so slowly, it just pauses for a while. 

I seem to remember I was using different locations back then with the
14.4k, and all of them became respondent again after a reload request
on *one* location. So it could have been a host on the route that was
shared by my connections that was stalling transfer, i.e. one close
to me, *if* I remember correctly.

[...]
 Good point. However, I am worried I would have the same problems with a
 faster modem, too.

With 56k all goes well for me. But then, it´s Debian this time. If
it doesn´t go well, I´m usually thinking that my provider´s machines
just have short-term problems.

Colin

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Re: diff caches stuff in memory?

1999-11-18 Thread Colin Marquardt
Hi,

* David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Quoting Colin Marquardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 apparently diff caches stuff in memory.

 I'm not sure what you mean by made a new clean version.
 (I'm sure you know that -N means any empty files that were
 cleaned away will have no effect on diff's output.)

Okay, I haven´t been too understandable. Now I cannot reproduce it,
but the explanation what I did follows nevertheless.

Say, I want to do a diff against a directory that comes in a tarball
(xmms-0.9.5.1.tar.gz actually). I edit some files in a copy of that
directory (xmms-0.9.5.1_patch), then I diff against the original
directory (xmms-0.9.5.1, clean_dir in my previous example). 

I then realize that was I thought was the original wasn´t really the
directory as contained in the tarball because I did some
modifications there too. Now, to get a clean original directory
(xmms-0.9.5.1) I simply untar the tarball again (after deleting the
fake original directory), which gives me the same directory name as
before (xmms-0.9.5.1). Okay?

The original directory is now *really* original, i.e. *different* from
the former original (which was called xmms-0.9.5.1 as well), so I
should get also get a different diff output.

Now my second diff doesn´t recognize that the original directory has 
changed, it creates the same diff output as before.

 I didn't know diff bothered about timestamps, and I doubt kernel
 caching uses them either. (Of course, programs like tar and zip do.)

Okay, after some experiments I see that after untarring the original
directory anew, the timestamp on that directory is not the current
timestamp, but the timestamp at tar file creation. (tar xvzf
xmms-0.9.5.1.tar.gz)

 So, were I examining evidence, I'd be interested to know how you
 cleaned clean_dir, and I'd want to see a log showing diff getting
 the wrong answers (i.e. the diff output and two cats of affected
 files).

The test case I just set up worked! I don´t know what was
different... Maybe the error really was between keyboard and chair,
and I´ve now gotten the brown paper bag award :-(   I don´t know.

Thanks for taking the time to answer,
  Colin

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off-topic: quick LaTeX question

1999-11-18 Thread Rob Mahurin
I'm writing a LaTeX document that contains two very similar tables
which I would like to have side-by-side to accent their similarity:

--- ---
| table 1 | | table 2 |
| | | |
--- ---
caption 1   caption 2

LaTeX wants to put them one above the other.  How do I get what I
want?

Rob

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Re: Gnome panel and Enlightenment

1999-11-18 Thread Oki DZ


Harlan Crystal wrote:
 
 I've never used gnome panel, but I use enlightenment all the time.

Hi,
What is the spec of your machine?
Mine is a Pentium 100MHz/64MB, would this one run X/Gnome/E comfortably?

Oki


exim and procmail?

1999-11-18 Thread David S. Jackson
I have been getting an error procmail which has been bouncing my mails
to debian-user.  Basically, the procmail log messages get echoed back
to the debian list server.  I edited a line in /etc/exim.conf:

userforward:
  driver = forwardfile
  no_verify
  check_ancestor
  file = .forward
  ###modemask = 002
  filter
...


After commenting modemask the error seems to go away.  I only have one
user on the system right now (me).  

My question is why should I have been getting this error in the first
place?

A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its
recipients. The
following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
generated | /usr/bin/procmail -p

The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:

-- | /usr/bin/procmail -p --

procmail: [30016] Wed Nov 17 17:23:03 1999
procmail: Assigning PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
procmail: Assigning MAILDIR=/home/dsj/mail
procmail: Assigning PMDIR=/home/dsj/procmail
procmail: Assigning LOGFILE=/home/dsj/procmail/log
procmail: Opening /home/dsj/procmail/log

-- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers.
--


Any help gladly appreciated!

TIA

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usual everyday routine. --Shunryu Suzuki


Re: Debian SPARC

1999-11-18 Thread Ben Collins
 
 Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board
 

Umm, this concerns me, shouldn't you check into that? :)

As far as the cua0 errors and the overruns on the serial console, I forgot
how I fixed that on my system, but it is a simple fix. Try:

rm -f /dev/cua*

This will get rid of those devices and should correct that.

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test

1999-11-18 Thread David S. Jackson
this is just a test


Newbie Questions

1999-11-18 Thread Brian Neal
Hi all,

I am new to Debian and Linux in general. I managed to get an install
working, then got X going. I am currently using the slink versions
of gnome and enlightenment. Last night I got brave and figured out
apt-get and ran out and downloaded the latest gnome. 

Question 1) The new gnome looks good but the help icon doesn't
work. When I look at it's properties I see gnome-help-browser
however this doesn't seem to be installed anywhere on my machine.
Where do I get this?

Question 2) I decided to try and apt-get the latest enlightenment.
I added unstable to my sources.list file and did

apt-get update
apt-get install enlightenment

It went out and downloaded a ton of stuff, some of it looks
suspiciously unnecessary (like g++, gcc, gnat) as well as
an enlightenment *.deb file. But several errors occurred during
the install and it suggested I do a apt-get update to fix. This
didn't seem to work either. Any tips for getting the latest
enlightenment?

Question 3) How do I get sound working? I found a generic Linux
FAQ in /usr/doc that talked about recompiling the kernel. This
sounds scary but I could try it. But first, is there a specific
Debian method that I don't know about that I could try first?

Thanks very much!!!

Brian


Scratchy Lines in X now

1999-11-18 Thread debiangeek
Alright, I've got X up and running at a decent resolution, with Xfree86 3.3.5-2 
my chipset is supported. The only problem (and a very annoying one) is that 
there are scratchy horizontal lines that appear when I change something (ie 
scrolling windows in netscape, resizing windows, moving apps around the screen) 
and text boxes (Rxvt and Form fields on webpages) being filled in with solid 
black when I type in them. Any of you X gurus out there ever heard of this 
problem before, or know of any tips to fix it ?

I'm using Potato now, with an SiS 5598 Chipset running an SVGA X server.

Many Thanks in advance, debiangeek
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RE: Newbie Questions

1999-11-18 Thread Brendon Baumgartner
First of all, upgrading from slink to potato is quite a lot of changes. The
system is going to update about every package on your machine.

I beleive E 16 requires a lot of things in potato, so no getting around
upgrading.
What error is apt giving you?

For sound, I would check the How-tos or the archive. It can get involved...

Bb

-Original Message-
From: Brian Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 7:16 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Newbie Questions


Hi all,

I am new to Debian and Linux in general. I managed to get an install
working, then got X going. I am currently using the slink versions
of gnome and enlightenment. Last night I got brave and figured out
apt-get and ran out and downloaded the latest gnome.

Question 1) The new gnome looks good but the help icon doesn't
work. When I look at it's properties I see gnome-help-browser
however this doesn't seem to be installed anywhere on my machine.
Where do I get this?

Question 2) I decided to try and apt-get the latest enlightenment.
I added unstable to my sources.list file and did

apt-get update
apt-get install enlightenment

It went out and downloaded a ton of stuff, some of it looks
suspiciously unnecessary (like g++, gcc, gnat) as well as
an enlightenment *.deb file. But several errors occurred during
the install and it suggested I do a apt-get update to fix. This
didn't seem to work either. Any tips for getting the latest
enlightenment?

Question 3) How do I get sound working? I found a generic Linux
FAQ in /usr/doc that talked about recompiling the kernel. This
sounds scary but I could try it. But first, is there a specific
Debian method that I don't know about that I could try first?

Thanks very much!!!

Brian


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TCP (over ppp) problem with kernel 2.2.x

1999-11-18 Thread Miles Bader
Hi, I have a problem which is driving me crazy: If I use a 2.2.x kernel
(as opposed to 2.0.36), I can't make any network connections (over my
ppp link) that require tcp.  In other works, non-tcp net stuff, like
ping or dns lookup, work fine, but telnets just hang.

My system is actually not a complete potato system (it's originally a
slink system, and I've never done a complete upgrade), but I've upgraded
most base packages to potato.

I tried to use `tcpdump' to figure out what's going on, but I really
don't know how to interpret the results; one obvious difference is
that when using the 2.2.x krnel, tcpdump shows lots of strange options
turned on in the packets, whereas the packets sent by the older kernel
don't.

I recall seeing a mention on debian-user about people having similar
problems to mine; can someone give me a pointer, or recommend where I
can look for a solution?

Thanks,

-Miles
-- 
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pinning you underneath.  At night the ice weasels come.  --Nietzsche


Re: New intel 820 board with linux

1999-11-18 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Does anyone know how the new intel (I think its number is 820) board is
 compatible with linux?

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't - just don't expect absolute top
performance out of it though.

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There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the
universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein


Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?

1999-11-18 Thread ferret


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:48:55PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I'd like to set up a cross-compiler on my Lintel (AMD 266) to compile
  packages for my Sparc IPX. I'd preferably like to package the
  cross-compiler so I can esaily remove it if I no longer need it.
  
  The only cross-compiler in the slink packages list is for m68k.
  
  What do I need to do to set one up?
 
 The last cross-compiler I built (for kernel compiles) was using the m68k
 cross-compiler package. I just changed the m68k references to sparc, and
 ran dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot (change all of the m68k
 references in debian/ to sparc).

I just did a 'debian/rules binary' in 'gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1' after
changing 'm68k' to 'sparc', and I get a build error. Looks like the gcc
buildstrap isn't working.

./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include  -I. -I. \
-I./config  -g0 \
  -finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions  \
  -c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o
as: option `-s' is ambiguous
make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1'
make: *** [build] Error 2

I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough
about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package
from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx
for some reason)

I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being
downloaded as I type..

-- Ferret no baka



Re: gnome-pager loses windows and freezes X

1999-11-18 Thread Herbert Ho
*grin* yeah, forgot to method i tried this. when X froze it took the
keyboard with it. no C-A-F1 or C-A-DEL.

thanks though! =)

herbert

On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 04:17:30PM -0700, Kevin M. McLin wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I don't think I can help you with your gnome-pager problem (I'm old-fashioned 
 and prefer to use plain old fvwm - point and click gives me a headache). 
 However, in terms of killing a process, why can't you just do a ctrl-alt-F3, 
 or F-whatever, and log in on a virtual console to kill your process without 
 having to shut off your computer?
 
 
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My ppp connection is (stalling)

1999-11-18 Thread David J. Kanter
This is driving me nuts. My PPP connection seems to be stalling all the
time. I'm often seeing (stalled) in Netscape, and trying to do some updates
to Potato has become painful (multiple mirror sites); it'll download a bit,
then stop, download a bit, then stall...you get the picture.

I remember reading something about PPP and the 2.2.X kernels. Could that be
what's going on? I've got my pon configured to use all the compressions I can.

Thanks.
-- 
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Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies
and coincidences.
  -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University


Re: Debian SPARC

1999-11-18 Thread ferret


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote:

 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Since this is a problem we need to address before release, can you be
   specific to the problems you are having?
  
  This is a console log of a normal 2.2.13 boot of my IPX, kernel compiled
  on the IPX, console on ttya, before I wiped the drive (AM Nov 17) and
  reinstalled slink. Potato at that time was not letting me log in on
  console (PM Nov 16) saying something about a 'function not implimented' on
  /dev/ttyS0
 
 Actually it says something about function not implemented on /dev/cua0,
 see:
 tty_io.c: process 1 (swapper) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software to 
 use /dev/ttyS0
 link /dev/console to /dev/ttyS0 and see if it helps.
Ah, yeah /dev/console - /dev/cua0 (I'll fix that right up)
And I'll try 2.2.13 with it.


 
 And btw what is that message about
 Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board
 ? :)
I'm using 32-bit memory in a 33-bit system. :/ Took me a while to figure
it out.


 The depmod problem is known, it will soon be fixed.
Heard about that. One of the many reasons I reinstalled. Besides, it's
practice. :

-- Ferret no baka



Non-fatal (i think) Error messages while loading modules

1999-11-18 Thread Marshal Wong
I'm getting the following error messages when I first, boot up.
Anyone know what they might mean, and how to fix them?

Loading modules: vfat /lib/modules/2.2.13/fs/fat.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051253.ksyms No such file or directory
/lib/modules/2.2.13/fs/vfat.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051253.ksyms No such file or directory
lp /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/parport.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051253.ksyms No such file or directory
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/parport_pc.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/parport_probe.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/lp.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
ne2k-pci /lib/modules/2.2.13/net/8390.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
ne2k-pci.c:vpre-1.00e 5/27/99 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker 
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html
ne2k-pci.c: PCI NE2000 clone 'RealTek RTL-8029' at I/O 0x7f80, IRQ 9.
eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0x7f80, IRQ 9, 00:80:C8:DD:7B:3B.
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/ne2k-pci.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
ppp CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/slhc.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory
PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
PPP line discipline registered.
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/ppp.o: cannot create 
/var/log/ksymoops/19991018051254.ksyms No such file or directory


I have tons of space in /var.  There are other date.ksyms
in /var/log/ksymoops.  I don't know why they can't be created now.

Thanks!

Marshal


Re: Scratchy Lines in X now

1999-11-18 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
 The only problem (and a very annoying one) is that there are scratchy 
 horizontal lines that appear when I change something (ie scrolling windows 
 
 I'm using Potato now, with an SiS 5598 Chipset running an SVGA X server.

I'm certainly no X guru and I'm not familiar with that chipset, but I had
a similiar problem with the LCD display on my laptop (Trident Cyber9397).
Turns out X was trying to find the highest vertical scan rate the vid
card would support (which is a good thing) even though the LCD display
doesn't really have a refresh rate in the same way a CRT does (no electron
gun zapping phosphors, etc.).  

I solved the problem by removing all the monitor mode lines in XF86Config 
that referred to modes at anything but 60 Hz.  You might try commenting 
out the mode line that X11 is choosing and see if one of the other mode 
lines (at the same resolution) works better.  You can find out which one
it chose by running X like this: startx 1 /dev/null 2 ~/tmp/xlog 
Then look in ~/tmp/xlog.

(Incidentally, the above situation with my laptop causes all GUI install
programs to fail because it correctly identifies the video card, but tries
to run the display at 85 Hz)

Chris
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NIS over Internet

1999-11-18 Thread Brendon Baumgartner
From what I understand NIS isn't encrypted. NIS+ is, but NIS+ doesn't work
out of the box and requires a bunch of extra shit to make work. Is there a
way to ssh yp or something to get it working? I'd like to use it, but all my
servers are spread apart.

Thanks.
bb


Re: Debian SPARC

1999-11-18 Thread ferret


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote:
 
  On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Since this is a problem we need to address before release, can you be
specific to the problems you are having?
   
   This is a console log of a normal 2.2.13 boot of my IPX, kernel compiled
   on the IPX, console on ttya, before I wiped the drive (AM Nov 17) and
   reinstalled slink. Potato at that time was not letting me log in on
   console (PM Nov 16) saying something about a 'function not implimented' on
   /dev/ttyS0
  
  Actually it says something about function not implemented on /dev/cua0,
  see:
  tty_io.c: process 1 (swapper) used obsolete /dev/cua0 - update software to 
  use /dev/ttyS0
  link /dev/console to /dev/ttyS0 and see if it helps.
 Ah, yeah /dev/console - /dev/cua0 (I'll fix that right up)
 And I'll try 2.2.13 with it.
Fixed /dev/console and booted 2.2.13:
Same type of problem:

Cleaning: /tmp /var/lock /var/run.
Initializing random number generator... done.
Recovering nvi editor sessions... done.
zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite.
zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite.
zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite.
zs_open ttyS0, tty overwrite.
..

And then the kernel panic after a while.
I disabled nviboot: still does it.
It looks like it's doing it right when it's in runlevel 'S', right before
it goes runlevel 2.

I'll take a closer look at it in the morning.

  
  And btw what is that message about
  Power-On SelfTest FAILED ... Replace CPU Board
  ? :)
 I'm using 32-bit memory in a 33-bit system. :/ Took me a while to figure
 it out.
 
 
  The depmod problem is known, it will soon be fixed.
 Heard about that. One of the many reasons I reinstalled. Besides, it's
 practice. :


Re: PPP problems on potato

1999-11-18 Thread iehrenwald
 Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Using interface ppp0
 Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests 
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Connection terminated.
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
 Nov 17 21:29:47 debian pppd[137]: Exit.

I had this stupid pain in the ass problem also.  It seems that
/etc/serial.conf sets your ttyS1 as a 16450 instead of 16550A.  Change the
entry in /etc/serial.conf reguarding ttyS1 to 16550A.  I don't know why it
does that.  But it took me a week to debug that stupid stuff.  It never
donned on me to check something like that.  Finally I just did cat
/etc/*|grep ttyS1.  The rest is history. 

--Ian Ehrenwald


Re: One for you Fetchmail experts out there

1999-11-18 Thread Kent West
Nick Cabatoff wrote:
 
 On Nov 16, Kent West wrote:
  Configuration #2
  --
  I can further configure Eudora to delete read mail off the server
  after X days. After X days has transpired, the next time Eudora
  check the mail it deletes any messages older than X days off of
  the server (I assume this is based on the server's marking of the
  messages as having been seen or read).
 
  I don't know of any way to get fetchmail to do this.
 
 Nor I... the only solution that comes to mind which doesn't involve
 programming something yourself is to switch to Mutt and drop fetchmail.
 Mutt doesn't support the options you seek directly, but it would allow
 you to set up macros that would do it for you.  The action of opening
 the folder in question can be hooked to trigger the macro, so it would
 happen automatically.  If you're willing to contemplate changing
 mailreaders I'll show you how to do it.
 
  Configuration #3
  --
  I can further configure Eudora to delete read mail if I have
  deleted that mail from the local trash box.
 
  I don't know of any way to get fetchmail to do this either.
 
 This would be trickier I think.  Can you describe the mechanism in more
 detail (that is, the sequence of events leading up to mail being deleted
 on the server)?

I appreciate the response

I'm probably confused. I thought fetchmail would POP the mail
from my server, delivering it to my local box, and then I could
choose from a variety of reader apps, such as mutt or tkRat. What
you say indicates that mutt is both a reader and a fetcher.

(At this point, I realize that perhaps I could have made my point
more clear by substituting Netscape Mail for Eudora Pro Mail
in my original post. I can do the same thing with Netscape, as
follows.)

Both Netscape Mail and Eudora Mail have options in the
configuration screens to leave a copy of the message on the
server, popping only a copy of the message to the local computer.
Netscape does not have the option to delete popped messages after
X days, but Eudora does. Both have the capability to delete the
message on the next pop check if the popped message has been
deleted from the local machine and the trash emptied. The
process works like this:

I tell Eudora to check my mail. Eudora checks the ISP's server,
and finds, say for instance, ten new messages. The default
behavior is for Eudora to download those ten messages to my local
computer and then delete them off the ISP's server, but with the
setting mentioned above, Eudora instead downloads those ten
messages, but leaves a copy on the ISP's server.

I set Eudora to delete those messages from the server after seven
days. So eight days later, I tell Eudora to check my mail, having
never deleted any of the original ten messages. Eudora finds 5
new messages. It downloads those five messages, but leaves a copy
of those five on the server. However, it also sees those first
ten messages still on the server, realizes they've been hanging
around for seven or more days, and deletes them from the server.

Now I read those five messages. On my local computer's IN box,
I've got the original ten messages and the newest five, for a
total of fifteen. On the server, I only have the most recent
five, because the original ten have been erased based on their
being older than 7 days.

Of those five messages, I delete two of them. Then I empty the
trash. Then I delete one more. So I've got the original ten in
my IN box, two of the five in my IN box, and one of the five in
my TRASH box.

Next time Eudora checks for mail, it doesn't find any new
messages, but it deletes from the server the two messages that
were deleted and emptied from the trash.

Hopefully this explains better how the process works.


shared library not found

1999-11-18 Thread Alex V. Toropov
Hi all

I'm trying to run WordPerfect for linux from Corel
It stops with error libXpm.so.4 not found

when I try ldd xwp it shows among rest lines:
libXpm.so.4 = not found


when I try ldconfig -p it shows among rest lines:
libXpm.so.4 (libc6) = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4

what is the problem?
Why ldconfig shows libXpm in cache and ldd (ld.so as well) cann't find
them ?


TIA Alex


natd package

1999-11-18 Thread Dave Wiard
Could somebody tell me what package natd is in?  Is it broken with potato?

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Re: off-topic: quick LaTeX question

1999-11-18 Thread Kurt Taylor
You might try a LaTeX package called subfigure.  It can be downloaded from the 
CTAN
website at ftp://ftp.duke.edu/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/catalogue.html.  I 
don't know
how well it works as I just came across it a few days ago and haven't had a 
chance to
work with it yet, but it looks like it wil do what you want it to.
-Kurt

Rob Mahurin wrote:

 I'm writing a LaTeX document that contains two very similar tables
 which I would like to have side-by-side to accent their similarity:

 --- ---
 | table 1 | | table 2 |
 | | | |
 --- ---
 caption 1   caption 2

 LaTeX wants to put them one above the other.  How do I get what I
 want?

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Re: Question about Update site behaviour

1999-11-18 Thread John Foster
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 
 Previously Gerardo Mauricio Sarria wrote:
  deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ slink-update main
 
 No, that means you suddenly get a whole new set of packages and doesn't
 help him at all.
 
 Wichert.
---
 I do not run behind a proxy server. I operate from my own web site with
static addressing. I simply have not changed any of my update site
selections for some time and I guess some of them have changed. The ones
from the apt-get dist. file do seem to work OK. but I have been using
these instead and they do not work longer.

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian dists/slink-proposed-updates/
deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome.old/gnome-stage-slink
slink main
deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/

Any suggestions?
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/dev/console

1999-11-18 Thread Nagilum
I'm wondering how to get /dev/console to work properly in Debian.

I'm running Debian 2.1 slink, and a 2.2.12 kernel.  I've seen that the
Debian distribution sets /dev/console up as a symlink to /dev/tty0, while
slackware and Redhat create an actual device with Major # 5 and Minor # 1.

Is there a practical reason for this disparity?  I'm just trying to figure
out why this was done in Debian... also, I can't seem to get console
messages to log to the console on my Debian box, whereas the same setup
works fine in slackware.

Example: I have:
auth,authpriv.* /dev/console

in my syslog.conf.  These messages should then be logged to the console
(among other places).  The slackware 7 box handles it fine, but I don't
get any console output at all on the Debian machine. 

I've even tried creating the device (MAKEDEV console) and using it for the
syslog messages, but still -- I get nothing on the console.

Can anyone help me with getting the console device to work properly?  I
really can't see what else to try, it's a fairly basic problem, it just
seems to me like it should work.  ;)


Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?

1999-11-18 Thread virtanen

Hi, 

is out there anybody, who has got experience on using  Cobalt Qube 2? 
(Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured)

We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12
000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and
uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product
is one of the possibilities. 

For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? 
Problems?
Other experiences?

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Re: [Q] Setting up a primary DNS server for my domain name on a Debian box...

1999-11-18 Thread Onno

I'm not a wiz at DNS config but I've done some domain
install with success...

Here it goes:

At 01:50 PM 11/17/99 -0800, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

[Note: Would appreciate if you Cc-ed me on your replies to this thread]

Hi,

I have never configured bind before.  I have a Debian (slink+potato) box.
I have bind 8.2.2p3-1 installed on this box.


update to 8.2.2p5 (security reasons I belive).


I want this box to be the primary DNS server (the one that is listed in the
whois record) for my domain name.  The entries for the various things in my
domain would be pretty simple.  Only one 'A' record for foo.org  Everything
else would (at the moment) be CNAME records pointing to the A record.


CNAME's are depreciated, go for the A records.


I tried following the instructions in the DNS HOWTO.  Things work fine when
I do a nslookup from the machine which is running bind.  But when I do an
nslookup remotely (setting this machine that is running bind as the server)
all queries time out.


If you setup your
/etc/bind/named.conf
/etc/bind/db.127
/etc/bind/db.your_ip_here_without_the_lastpart
/etc/bind/db.your_domain_here

correctly and restarted your DNS (ndc restart)
(you updated your serial numbers before every restart right?)

Then check your /var/log/syslog file for any errors.
Then the domain should be ok...

Send me your /etc/bind dir and your /var/log/syslog and
I will take a look at it, although I can promise you anything...


Would greatly appreciate step by step instructions (or pointers to step by
step instructions) on how to set up a primary domain name server on Debian.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Cobalt Qube 2 Internet server?

1999-11-18 Thread Radim Gelner

I personally do not own CQ but what I know from debian-mips, they're using
their own, modified version of a Linux kernel. It should be available in a
source form from their homesite. They also run some mailing lists (as
mentioned at www.linux.sgi.com), maybe you should better ask there.

Radim Gelner


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, virtanen wrote:

 
 Hi, 
 
 is out there anybody, who has got experience on using  Cobalt Qube 2? 
 (Internet server appliance using linux, apache and smb preconfigured)
 
 We are thinking here (an educational organization, about 40 workers; 12
 000 students...) to buy a www-server with easy administration tasks and
 uses for intranet services and www-services. The above mentioned product
 is one of the possibilities. 
 
 For what kind of use have people used these Cobalt Cube machines? 
 Problems?
 Other experiences?
 
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Re: PPP problems on potato

1999-11-18 Thread Onno

I'm not an expert on this bit I have an idea...


Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Serial connection established.
Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Using interface ppp0
Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests


Here the error starts, the next line drops your connection.


Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Connection terminated.
Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
Nov 17 21:29:47 debian pppd[137]: Exit.


Your link expects probably an 8N1 setting but finds a 7 somthing setting.
Again I'm not an expert on this...

What do these lines mean? How can they be corrected? Did someone 
experience the same difficulties on potato installation?


Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Rickie


Re: /tmp permissions changed!

1999-11-18 Thread Onno

No problem here...
I installed from the potato boot flops.

Regards,

Onno

At 03:10 AM 11/19/99 +0100, J Horacio MG wrote:

Hi,

all of a sudden I realized the /tmp permissions had changed to:

2 drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 2048 Nov 19 02:57 tmp/

so, I changed it back to sticky with:

# chmod 777 /tmp
# chmod a+t /tmp

Now, it seems alright, but I'm not sure about the rest (most of all
/var).  Could anyone check against his/her filesystem, please?
(also, anyone has an idea why it may have changed?  All I've done is
untar/ungzip 'ed a file in /tmp as a normal user;  then, I've removed
all the files, but it kept asking me if I wanted to delete the file
substitutin such or such mode).

Now it looks like:

1 drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 1024 Nov 14 11:47 ./
1 drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 1024 Nov 14 11:47 ../
1 drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 1024 Nov 18 20:17 alt/
0 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root0 Nov 19 02:45 amnt/
2 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 2048 Nov 14 16:52 bin/
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Nov 18 20:12 boot/
1 drwxrwsr-x   2 root cdrom1024 Feb  1  1999 cdrom/
18 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root17408 Nov 19 02:45 dev/
5 drwxr-xr-x  57 root root 5120 Nov 19 02:45 etc/
1 drwxrwsr-x   2 root floppy   1024 Feb  1  1999 floppy/
1 drwxrwsr-x   5 root staff1024 Nov 10 00:30 home/
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Feb  1  1999 initrd/
3 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 3072 Nov 14 21:30 lib/
12 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root12288 Nov  9 00:41 lost+found/
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Feb  1  1999 mnt/
1 drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 1024 Nov 17 18:28 opt/
0 dr-xr-xr-x  31 root root0 Nov 19 02:45 proc/
1 drwx--   7 root root 1024 Nov 17 23:35 root/
2 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 2048 Nov 16 14:43 sbin/
2 drwxrwxrwt   5 root root 2048 Nov 19 02:59 tmp/
1 drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 1024 Nov 17 13:06 usr/
1 drwxr-xr-x  17 root root 1024 Nov 14 16:50 var/
0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   19 Nov  9 01:17 vmlinuz -
boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36
1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Nov 14 11:47 zip/


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Re: UDP port 1025(Blackjack)

1999-11-18 Thread Onno

Thanks for the great tip!

Regards,

Onno

At 07:31 PM 11/17/99 +, Chris Schleifer wrote:

Hi,

I don't know a lot about this stuff but I can help a little I think.

When you are using a network, ports will get opened on your machine
whenever you make a connection, this way the remote machine has
somewhere to talk to. This is probably why you are seeing ports open
during one scan and closed the next time.

Nmap uses an internal database of service to port mapping. When it says
Blackjack, it is just a guess as to what could be running on that port.
You will see things like nmap telling you Back Orifice is running on a
linux box because of this. Take whatever service nmap says with a grain
of salt. You can also do 'grep 1025 /etc/services' to do a simple check
for yourself.

But the main thing I want to suggest is to not use nmap for scanning
your machines. Use lsof instead (apt-get install lsof). Lsof is VERY
cool and useful for many things. Install it, do 'lsof -i' as root, and
it will show you exactly which ports are open, which process is using
it, which user owns the process, and more. I run 'lsof -i' after every
apt-get upgrade to quickly make sure it hasn't decided to add a server I
don't want (happened last week with the changes to netstd in potato).

Hope this helps,
Chris Schleifer


aphro wrote:

 During the process of closing non important ports on my new server i
 noticed it has port 1025(UDP) and the service is Blackjack according to
 nmap.  Anyone know what this is? i dont see anything in the dpkg list for
 blackjack and its not on my machine at home, and its not on my main
 server.

 tia

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Re: encryption licenses

1999-11-18 Thread Onno

Maybe the guys at debian-legal (licensing issues) know the answers
to your questions.

Regards,

Onno

At 08:47 AM 11/17/99 -0800, aphro wrote:


It's been really hard for me to get whats needed in terms of liceses(if
any) for encryption.

What i'd like to know, if anyone can enlighten me is whats teh deal with
using encryption in a commercial enviornment?  I downgraded my SSH 2
servers to SSH1 a while back when i heard that the license had changed in
regaurds to commercial use.  Another question is SSL ..there are a few
GPL/free SSL servers/modules out there..but are they clear for commercial
use?  Or do you just have to pay/register to use the certificates for SSL
transactions? and lastly i am in the process of installing vpnd and
testing it out as a encryption method for a (doh) vpn :)  it has
encryption too..and is GPL..whats the general rule to go about this kind
of stuff?  i've seen a lot of legal stuff on pages (like the mod_ssl
homepage) but its really beyond me as to what applies to me and what
doesn't.

thanks!

nate

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Re: How to install pine on slink from source

1999-11-18 Thread John
on 18 Nov 99, Philip Lehman wrote...

The first message in this thread did not reach me, so I don't know
who initiated the query.

I am a novice and asked the same question . If you go to the archives 
and look up Alec Smith's reply to me on 10th Nov, you will find a
fully detailed step by step guide covering Pine4.20. It worked for
me and if I can do it anyone can! (Avoid the error I made in
interpreting step2 - follow up messages cover this if you have any
difficulty).

Hope this helps whoever has the problem.

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Daniel Mashao wrote:

I once did it, but I forgot what I did. Searching the archives I could not
find pine installation messages. Anyone remember? I just can't get used to
mutt. It smells too much like vi and I find vi hard.

Get the source from any Debian mirror, last time I checked they were
in debian/project/experimental

- Get foo.orig.tar.gz, foo.diff.gz, and foo.dsc
  (where foo is something like pine plus the version number)
- `dpkg-source -x foo.dsc`
- `cd foo`
- as root: `debian/rules binary`

You also need dpkg-dev and the development packages of the libs
required by Pine. This will patch the source, compile, and build
binary debs ready to install with dpkg/dselect. HTH

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Re: /dev/console

1999-11-18 Thread Martin Fluch
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Nagilum wrote:

 Example: I have:
 auth,authpriv.* /dev/console
 
 in my syslog.conf.  These messages should then be logged to the console
 (among other places).  The slackware 7 box handles it fine, but I don't
 get any console output at all on the Debian machine. 

I have the lines

# The named pipe /dev/xconsole is for the `xconsole' utility.  To use it,
# you must invoke `xconsole' with the `-file' option:
# 
#$ xconsole -file /dev/xconsole [...]
#
# NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a reasonably
#  busy site..
#
daemon.*;mail.*;\
news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=alert;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   |/dev/xconsole

at the bottom of my syslog.conf, which seems to do the thing you want to.

Martin

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maillinglist news interface down?

1999-11-18 Thread Christoph Martin
Hi folks.

Does anyone know what happended to the Debian list to news gateway. I
did not get any knews from linux.debian.devel fro about a week. In
linux.debian.user there were only a dozen in the last days, which seem
to be come in over news directly and not via the mailling list.

Is the gateway down?

Do I have to resubscribe to the mailling list, to be able to read it
again?

Christoph

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How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Peter Weiss
Hello,

my harddisk is on the edge (still dma/ irq errors). Is there an easy way
to copy all partitions (Vfat WinNT/ Debian Linux/ Linux Swap) to new one
without reinstalling all things?

 TIA -- Peter

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dselect vs apt

1999-11-18 Thread Urban Gabor
Though it might be a lamer question, I would like to know the major
differences between dselect and apt. I do not upgrade my boxes via ftp, I
allways (more or less :-)) ) wait till the new release is assembled in CD
images. Why would I switch to apt?

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Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Radim Gelner

Depending on what type of harddrive you have. For example Seagate and
Quantum have a utility to transfer content of a whole harddrive to another
one (even bigger). But the free versions available work only with their
hardware. Also, I've tested it with fat32, not with ext2fs :-(.

Radim Gelner


On 18 Nov 1999, Peter Weiss wrote:

 Hello,
 
 my harddisk is on the edge (still dma/ irq errors). Is there an easy way
 to copy all partitions (Vfat WinNT/ Debian Linux/ Linux Swap) to new one
 without reinstalling all things?
 
  TIA -- Peter
 
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Mouse, please help

1999-11-18 Thread Haris Siakalis
Hello,
I have a problem with the mouse. After the installation finished,
and i startx there is no mouse. I see an x in the middle of the
screen.
I only installed debian yesterday, so be patient with me.
I did crtl+alt+del dropped to console and typed gpm but it said command
not found.i also typed gpmconfig and also command not found.
I try to run XF86Setup but i cannot move through the menus because there
is
no mouse. is there a console solution to this, or how can i do it
manually.Maybe the package gpm is not installed.How do i install it?
Is gpm responsible for the mouse in Xserver too or only for console?
Maybe is running and i don't know it. Maybe i need to tell kde to
recognise the mouse, but how can i communicate with kde if i have no
mouse?

Thanks


Re: off-topic: quick LaTeX question

1999-11-18 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Rob Mahurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm writing a LaTeX document that contains two very similar tables
 which I would like to have side-by-side to accent their similarity:
 
   --- ---
   | table 1 | | table 2 |
   | | | |
   --- ---
   caption 1   caption 2
 
Put each of them into a minipage-environment and maybe a \hfill
between.

Greetings,
joachim


xv instead of IM in mailcap?

1999-11-18 Thread Debian Mail
I manually exchanged ImageMagicks display against xv on
/etc/mailcap. But every time I install an application which alters
/etc/mailcap, display is again inserted. How can I prevent that?

Stef


How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Martyn Pearce


Peter Weiss writes:
| Hello,
| 
| my harddisk is on the edge (still dma/ irq errors). Is there an easy way
| to copy all partitions (Vfat WinNT/ Debian Linux/ Linux Swap) to new one
| without reinstalling all things?

dd --- diskdump --- is what you want.  Byte for byte copying.

Mx.


Re: My ppp connection is (stalling)

1999-11-18 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 17 Nov, David J. Kanter wrote about My ppp connection is (stalling)
 This is driving me nuts. My PPP connection seems to be stalling all the
 time. I'm often seeing (stalled) in Netscape, and trying to do some updates
 to Potato has become painful (multiple mirror sites); it'll download a bit,
 then stop, download a bit, then stall...you get the picture.
 
 I remember reading something about PPP and the 2.2.X kernels. Could that be
 what's going on? I've got my pon configured to use all the compressions I can.
 
 Thanks.

I had similiar problems as well.  What worked for me was to reduce the
default mtu/mru settings by about half.  If you do this and have an
internal network make sure and set the mtu of the network to the same
value as your ppp link.  Different mtu settings seems to cause problems
with ip masqurading.  Other pppd options that I played with and had
varying degrees of success are bsdcomp, deflate and vj-max-slots.  A
lot of the ppp stalling problems tend to be compression negotiation
between you and the isp.  And since each isp may use different software
the correct combination will be different in each case.

HTH,

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Re: Quick Latex question

1999-11-18 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:33:34AM +, Jose Marin wrote:
 
 Just use the minipage environment for each of the tables. Do something
 like this: (for instance)
 
   \begin{minipage}{0.4\textwidth}
 \begin{table}[t]
   \begin{center}
 \begin{tabular}[]{}
   % Table entries here
 \end{tabular}
 \caption{Table on the left}
 \label{tab:left}
   \end{center}
 \end{table}
   \end{minipage}
 
   \hfill  % Stretchable spacing
 
[duplicate above]

This gives this error:


! LaTeX Error: Not in outer par mode.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H return  for immediate help.
 ...  
  
l.6   \begin{table}[t]
  
? h
You've lost some text.  Try typing  return  to proceed.
If that doesn't work, type  X return  to quit.


If I remove the [t], it fails on \begin
   {center}.

If I comment out the minipage lines, the table comes out fine.  With
them in, In either case, my minipage doesn't print.  What's happening?

I'm going to put this back on the list in case anybody else knows.

Thanks a lot,

Rob

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no list mail

1999-11-18 Thread tf
Hey guys, 

I'm writing this, but I won't be able to see I did.  I'm not getting any
mail at all from debian-user.  Have any idea why this might be? 

cc me please,

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Re: Mouse, please help

1999-11-18 Thread virtanen
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Haris Siakalis wrote:

 Hello,
 Maybe the package gpm is not installed. How do i install it?

1) There exists a package called 'gpm'. 
2) Did you install it? 
3) Which method of intallation did you use?
4) Did the intallation procedure ask anything about the configuration of
the gpm package? I think that it should have done so. 
5) How to install it depends on your installation method. Basically it is
easiest to use afterwards apt or dselect. Just start
'dselect' and/or 'apt' again and look for gpm by 'Acces' - 'Update' -
'Select' and '/'
which produces: 'search for'. Answer 'gpm' and hit enter. Look at the
package if it is installed or not. 

6) If it is installed OK, you should find in /usr/doc/gpm a file
called 'faq.gz'. Read that using a command 'most faq.gz' Maybe some of
these faqs suit to your situation. Read man gpm as well. Which kind of
mouse do you have? Start again XF86Setup.

7) If it isn't installed hit '+' and enter to install it. And try again
configuring... It depends on your mouse type, how to define it while
running XF86Setup. Mine is 'Logitech M-S 48' with that funny roller on the
midel button... it took quite a long time to find out that it must be
defined as /psaux... 

hv
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Re: Quick Latex question

1999-11-18 Thread Jose Marin
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Rob Mahurin wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:33:34AM +, Jose Marin wrote:
  
  Just use the minipage environment for each of the tables. Do something
  like this: (for instance)
  
\begin{minipage}{0.4\textwidth}
  \begin{table}[t]
\begin{center}
  \begin{tabular}[]{}
% Table entries here
  \end{tabular}
  \caption{Table on the left}
  \label{tab:left}
\end{center}
  \end{table}
\end{minipage}
  
\hfill  % Stretchable spacing
  
 [duplicate above]
 
 This gives this error:
 
 
 ! LaTeX Error: Not in outer par mode.

Ooops!  Yes, the table environment can't go inside a minipage; it should
be the other way around: a table environment engulfing two minipages, each
containing just a tabular environment.  And if you don't want to make it
float, just remove the table environment (and the label and caption)
altogether.

Oh, and I shouldn't have left blanks between the two minipages!

See below.

Jose
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\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

This should work\ldots

\begin{table}[t]
  \begin{center}

\begin{minipage}{0.4\textwidth}
  \begin{center}
\begin{tabular}[t]{||l|r||}
  \hline
  \emph{type}  \emph{style} \\ \hline
  big   good \\
  small  bad \\
  better   worse \\
  \hline
\end{tabular}
  \end{center}
\end{minipage}
\hfill  % Stretchable spacing
\begin{minipage}{0.4\textwidth}
  \begin{center}
\begin{tabular}[t]{||l|r||}
  \hline
  \emph{type}  \emph{style} \\ \hline
  big   good \\
  small  bad \\
  better   worse \\
  \hline
\end{tabular}
  \end{center}
\end{minipage}

\caption{Tables showing blah...}
\label{tab:mytables}
  \end{center}
\end{table}



\end{document}

%%% Local Variables: 
%%% mode: latex
%%% TeX-master: t
%%% End: 


Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Onno

Norton Ghost would be a good util, see if you can
borrow it from a friend.

Regards,

Onno

At 11:26 AM 11/18/99 +0100, Peter Weiss wrote:

Hello,

my harddisk is on the edge (still dma/ irq errors). Is there an easy way
to copy all partitions (Vfat WinNT/ Debian Linux/ Linux Swap) to new one
without reinstalling all things?

 TIA -- Peter

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Re: the gimp?

1999-11-18 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 12:44:00PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
 
 Debian guarentees that everything in it's main distribution is free, which
 makes preprending -free to package names quite pointless. The gimp package
 suggests gimp-nonfree, which means that if you use dselect or any other
 reasonable tool for selecting gimp, and you have set up your system to
 access the nbon-free archives, you will be shown gimp-nonfree when you
 select gimp for installation.

Really?

peon:~# apt-get install gimp
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gimp 
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 2884kB of archives. After unpacking 6989kB will be used.
Get:1 ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu unstable/main gimp 1.0.4-2.0.1 [2884kB]
Fetched 2884kB in 8s (342kB/s) 
Selecting previously deselected package gimp.
(Reading database ... 73286 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gimp (from .../gimp_1.0.4-2.0.1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up gimp (1.0.4-2.0.1) ...

peon:~# 

gimp-nonfree is definitely available (it's reinstalling right now).
But I already knew about it.  I remember finding out about it being a
PITA, though.  For those of us who don't spend our free time reading
package dependencies, the name gimp doesn't suggest there's a
gimp-nonfree any more than shellutils suggests a
shellutils-nonfree.  

 
 Gimp-nonfree is not a complete gimp package, it just contains the gimp
 plugin. The gimp has a plugin architecture; the fact that Debian omits one
 non-free plugin from their base gimp package is not a good reason to say we
 should not call that package gimp.

I see your point here.  Perhaps a line like this could be added to
apt's (dpkg's?) output, to make these reasonable installation
methods:

Package 'gimp' suggests the following packages, which are not installed:
freefont, sharefont, gimp-nonfree, gimp-data-extras (= 1:1.0.0)
Please consider also installing these packages.

Rob

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Re: My ppp connection is (stalling)

1999-11-18 Thread mheyes


I had the same problem. My connection worked fine with a 2.0.36 kernel, but when
I used 2.2.13 I would stall after 50K or so downloaded. I read a posting about
certain ISPs using Ascend routers, which don't work well with the bsd_comp and
ppp-deplate compression schemes used in potato. I added a different account with
a different ISP and all my problems disappeared. Concentric was the ISP with the
problem, my new account is with Earthlink.

Michael Heyes







David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/17/99 11:32:57 PM

To:   Debian listerv debian-user@lists.debian.org
cc:(bcc: Mike Heyes/LincolnFP/BerisfordPlc)

Subject:  My ppp connection is (stalling)




This is driving me nuts. My PPP connection seems to be stalling all the
time. I'm often seeing (stalled) in Netscape, and trying to do some updates
to Potato has become painful (multiple mirror sites); it'll download a bit,
then stop, download a bit, then stall...you get the picture.

I remember reading something about PPP and the 2.2.X kernels. Could that be
what's going on? I've got my pon configured to use all the compressions I can.

Thanks.
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Re: Gnome panel and Enlightenment

1999-11-18 Thread Michael Stenner
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 07:48:25AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
 What is the spec of your machine?
 Mine is a Pentium 100MHz/64MB, would this one run X/Gnome/E comfortably?

I gotta bite...  I sit in front of a Dual PII 400 w/ 512MB ram at work
and recently switched back to afterstep (from Gnome/Enlightenment)
largely because of speed.  (Maybe afterstep spoils me, but still...)

  -Michael

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Re: Mouse, please help

1999-11-18 Thread Klaus Drews
Hi,

gpm is not responsible for your mouse in X.
To find out, if gpm-package is installed, type dpkg -l gpm. Now there should be 
something like
coma:~# dpkg -l gpm
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  gpm 1.14-3 General Purpose Mouse Interface

If the last line is something like the next line, the package is not installed.
coma:~# dpkg -l gpmd
No packages found matching gpm.

For XF86Setup I think, it works with TAB and the arrow-keys (how are they 
called ?)
instead of the mouse. 

But there are still open questions : What type of mouse do you use ? psaux or 
serial ?
To find out, what your mouse device is, type cat /dev/mouse or ttyS... . It 
wprked fine for me.
If you found the right device, you get output on your console.

KD




Re: Quick Latex question

1999-11-18 Thread Rob Mahurin
That worked quite nicely, thank you.  Also, if I put my \label and
\caption between \end{tabular} and \end{center}, I can have separate
captions on the tables, like I wanted.  Awesome.  Thanks a lot.

Rob

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RE: Sane / Scanner problem

1999-11-18 Thread mheyes


The scanner (HP 4c) id was set to 2. When I booted with the scanner off, and
entered the echo line you suggested, the scanner mounted and I was able to
access it.  Hmmm.  My lilo.conf forced recognition with
append=aha152x=0x140,9,2 so I tried changing the scsi id from 2 to 3 in the
append line and rebooted. The scanner was detected fine, and only at scsi id 2.
Dmesg showed  scsi generic sga at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0.

It works, I'm happy, but I don't understand the behavior. Any ideas?



Michael Heyes






Ingles, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/17/99 11:19:26 AM

To:   Mike Heyes/LincolnFP/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:

Subject:  RE: Sane / Scanner problem




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 When I boot, though, I get the scanner detection message, but
 I get messages detecting generic sga at scsi id 0, generic sgb
 at scsi id 1 ---generic sgf at scsi id 7.

 Are you positive the scanner's ID is 2? If it's set to the same ID
as the SCSI card (usually 7), you can see that behavior.

 Also, some broken SCSI hardware doesn't autodetect well. SCSI allows
for an ID and a LUN, logical unit number. This allows a SCSI device
to have sub-devices; for example, a CD changer will have each CD slot
on a seperate LUN. Some hardware only checks the ID, and responds to
multiple LUNs.

 There may be a way for the 152x driver to not probe all LUNs or
something like that.

 Finally, if nothing else works, there's a way to add a specific SCSI
device after the kernel is booted or the module is loaded. The command is

echo scsi add-single-device w x y z /proc/scsi/scsi

 (which must be done as root), where w = scsi host #, x = channel
number (some SCSI cards have multiple channels), y = ID, z = LUN.

 So, in your case, you'd boot with the scanner turned off. Then, turn
on the scanner, and do...

echo scsi add-single-device 0 0 2 0 /proc/scsi/scsi

 (I'm assuming the 152x is the only SCSI card.)

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles(248) 377-7735  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Windows 2000... will have lots of stuff you used to pay extra
 for but is now built in for free, although none of it works.
- Eric Lundquist





autoload balancing

1999-11-18 Thread Petr Vácha
Hi there.
 
I really need to know if it's possible to use autoload balancing on the
ethernet and, if yes, how can I configure it.
 
Thanks Petr Vacha


Presentations with latex

1999-11-18 Thread Manuel Arenaz Silva
Hello,

I use latex to prepare my presentations. Before installing Debian Slink
(default workstation setup), I had a latex class called seminar.cls
available. Nevertheless, I cannot use it now bacause it is not
installed. Which package(s) do I have to install? Are there any other
latex recomended packages to install?

Thanks in advance,

   Manuel Arenaz


Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?

1999-11-18 Thread Erik Mouw
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:52:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:48:55PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd like to set up a cross-compiler on my Lintel (AMD 266) to compile
  packages for my Sparc IPX. I'd preferably like to package the
  cross-compiler so I can esaily remove it if I no longer need it.
  
  The only cross-compiler in the slink packages list is for m68k.
  
  What do I need to do to set one up?
 
 The last cross-compiler I built (for kernel compiles) was using the m68k
 cross-compiler package. I just changed the m68k references to sparc, and
 ran dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot (change all of the m68k
 references in debian/ to sparc).
 
 I just did a 'debian/rules binary' in 'gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1' after
 changing 'm68k' to 'sparc', and I get a build error. Looks like the gcc
 buildstrap isn't working.

make bootstrap doesn't work for cross compilers, have a look at the
cross gcc FAQ: http://www.objsw.com/CrossGCC/ .

 ./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include  -I. -I. \
 -I./config  -g0 \
   -finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions  \
   -c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o
 as: option `-s' is ambiguous
 make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1'
 make: *** [build] Error 2
 
 I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough
 about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package
 from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx
 for some reason)

Looks like you're using the native binutils instead of cross binutils.

 I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being
 downloaded as I type..

You also need libc and kernel header files for the target system. The
kernel has to be configured for the target system, but that can be done on
the build host.


Erik

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Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?

1999-11-18 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:38:26PM +0100, Erik Mouw wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:52:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include  -I. -I. \
  -I./config  -g0 \
-finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions  \
-c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o
  as: option `-s' is ambiguous
  make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1'
  make: *** [build] Error 2
  
  I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough
  about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package
  from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx
  for some reason)
 
 Looks like you're using the native binutils instead of cross binutils.

Installing binutils-multiarch and compiling a native gas handles this.

  I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being
  downloaded as I type..
 
 You also need libc and kernel header files for the target system. The
 kernel has to be configured for the target system, but that can be done on
 the build host.

Install dpkg-cross and convert the native sparc libc6 and libc6-dev
packages. This will install them into /usr/sparc-linux/{include,lib} for
the cross-compile.

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Re: Presentations with latex

1999-11-18 Thread Paul Huygen
Manuel Arenaz Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Before installing Debian Slink [..], I had a latex class called seminar.cls
 available. Nevertheless, I cannot use it now bacause it is not
 installed. Which package(s) do I have to install? Are there any other
 latex recomended packages to install?

You have to install the seminar package. Probably you also have to install
the pstricks package. You can find them in the Comprehensive TeX Archive
Network (CTAN), e.g. at ftp.shsu.edu under /tex-archive, or at www.cs.ruu.nl.
In the archive there is a pointer to a search engine that helps you to find the 
items.


Paul Huygen


Re: diff caches stuff in memory?

1999-11-18 Thread David Wright
Quoting Colin Marquardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 The test case I just set up worked! I don´t know what was
 different... Maybe the error really was between keyboard and chair,
 and I´ve now gotten the brown paper bag award :-(   I don´t know.
 
 Thanks for taking the time to answer,

That's OK. It did just occur to me that there is software out there
that might suffer in the way you described, for example, mc (I use slink).

If you browse a zip file in mc, but change its contents in another
process*, I don't know how to make mc throw away its unzipped cache
short of exiting or unzipping something else big. Mind you, I don't
use C-x d (compare directories) at all, let alone in a zip file.

* something I do regularly.

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Compatible notebook

1999-11-18 Thread Rajesh Mittal

hi

I am trying to buy a notebook , and I will be installing debian or free bsd 
on that.

Has anybody got a suggestion about processor type , graphics card or  n/w card.
or as a whole .


rajesh

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how to start an obnoxious daemon at boot?

1999-11-18 Thread Ethan Benson

hi,

I have a BestPower UPS (it is a `smart' one) and I am trying to start 
the monitoring daemon with a /etc/init.d/ script like everything else 
(using the init.d/skeleton for a template), however i have a problem:


this daemon does not create .pid files, and it forks several times 
when its first starting up so start-stop-daemon --make-pidfile  gets 
the pid of a process that is killed as soon as the daemon is finished 
connecting to the UPS, so the `stop' part of the script won't work :(


and if that is not enough this daemon always leaves a zombie process 
after it starts up, so trying to fix the .pid with pidof does not 
work either since it finds 2 pids...


I have been trying various scripting tricks to replace 
start-stop-daemon creating an empty file in /var/run so i can tell 
when its running or not, the other problem I have is the way this 
daemon forks and exits it seems to cause my script to aport 
prematurely.


BestPower supplies the full source code to their software (and gives 
full specification on the comm protocol to anyone who asks), but I am 
not skilled enough of a programmer to fix these problems (that and 
the code is kinda gross...)


does anyone have any suggestions for how to do this?  does there 
happen to be a replacement software for these UPSs (that works in 
smart mode) ?




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Re: Perl5 (Potato) ... [satan]

1999-11-18 Thread J Horacio MG
El jue, 18 de nov de 1999, a las 12:35:54 +0100, Klaus Drews dijo:
 Hi,
 
 just a small hint :
 somewhere there is a README in the docs, which says, that you have
 to load and unload and convert things to work with 5.005. Look for it,
 befor upgrading. I crashed my system some time ago because I ran the
 fast way, just installing.
 By the way - if anyone has a proper description, what to look for, I would
 by appriciated receiving a copy.

I've been looking around and can't find any such document.  Since, as
you say, a wrong upgrade might crash the system, I won't until it's
safe.

Please, if you are told where to find that README, let me know.


Regards,

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Burning CD-Rs with Debian?

1999-11-18 Thread Jose L Gomez Dans
Hi!
I finally managed to get access to a CDR writer connected to the
Internet. I read the FAQ, but I think it is rather meagre in the information
it provides. I'd like to know what is the latest version of debian that I
might download (I guess it's slink.something). I'd like to know if I could
download a version of potato (the official CD would be a slink based thing,
woudln't it?), and how much size could one expect this mighty thing to take
up (I know that potato probably takes up more than slink, but...). Also,
what do I get for my money :) here? Do I just get main or do you get the
non-free bits as well?

Sorry if the questions are a bit stupid, but this is my first time.
So far, I kept going with network installs, but now it's time to upgrade the
old box at  home.

Thanks a lot!
Jose
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Department of Electronic Engineering
University of Sheffield UK


Re: How to install pine on slink from source

1999-11-18 Thread David Wright
Quoting Daniel Mashao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I once did it, but I forgot what I did. Searching the archives I could not
 find pine installation messages. Anyone remember? I just can't get used to
 mutt. It smells too much like vi and I find vi hard.

I must stop avoiding vi at once :-)

I just built pico for someone, and I keep notes:

--8

Ftp to ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/Mirrors/ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/
dists/slink/non-free/source and copied the .tar.gz .diff.gz and .dsc files
for pine_3.96M-2 to ~debian/slink-2.1.

mkdir ~/src and cd to it.
dpkg-source -x ~debian/slink-2.1/pine_3.96M-2.dsc
unpacks the distribution.

cd pine-3.96L
debian/rules build
press enter to accept advice.

bin/pico is what I wanted.

--8

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Re: Linux as a router

1999-11-18 Thread Brian Boonstra
You wrote:
 I have an Intel/486 and want to set it up as a router.


You might want to try the Debian-based Linux Router Project, at

http://www.linuxrouter.org/

The whole thing runs off a write-protected floppy, so you can't be hacked as  
badly as with a HD.  The docs on the official site are not too good, but  
here's a good one:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/9660/lrphowto.html


- Brian


Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Martin Fluch
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On 18 Nov 1999, Martyn Pearce wrote:

 Peter Weiss writes:
 | Hello,
 | 
 | my harddisk is on the edge (still dma/ irq errors). Is there an easy way
 | to copy all partitions (Vfat WinNT/ Debian Linux/ Linux Swap) to new one
 | without reinstalling all things?
 
 dd --- diskdump --- is what you want.  Byte for byte copying.

AFAIK dd can make the copied data useless, when the target hd isn't
identicaly to the source hd (and with identicaly I mean it: same geometry
and partitioned in the exact same way).

ext2 partitions can easyly moved along with tar, and for swap partitions
it makes no sense to copy them.

vfat/winNT partitions seem to me mor tricky (I've never did that)

Martin

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Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Martyn Pearce


Martin Fluch writes:
| AFAIK dd can make the copied data useless, when the target hd isn't
| identicaly to the source hd (and with identicaly I mean it: same geometry
| and partitioned in the exact same way).
| 
| ext2 partitions can easyly moved along with tar, and for swap partitions
| it makes no sense to copy them.
| 
| vfat/winNT partitions seem to me mor tricky (I've never did that)

Hm, this discussion moved off the list.
I later qualified the dd suggestion with the observation that it should
work iff both disks are set to LBA.  Otherwise, as you say, dissimilar
geometries will sink (almost always).  In the LBA case, one shouldn't
even need to rerun LILO, I think.  In the non-LBA case, the partitions
must be re-created on the target disk, and the partitions copied
one-by-one.

The LBA case is as you say wasteful on swap partitions, but the speed of 
convenience should more than make up for this.

Mx.


Re: the gimp?

1999-11-18 Thread Martin Fluch
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Rob Mahurin wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 12:44:00PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
  
  Debian guarentees that everything in it's main distribution is free, which
  makes preprending -free to package names quite pointless. The gimp package
  suggests gimp-nonfree, which means that if you use dselect or any other
  reasonable tool for selecting gimp, and you have set up your system to
  access the nbon-free archives, you will be shown gimp-nonfree when you
  select gimp for installation.
 
 Really?
 
 peon:~# apt-get install gimp
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   gimp 
 [...]

 gimp-nonfree is definitely available (it's reinstalling right now).
 But I already knew about it.  I remember finding out about it being a
 PITA, though.  For those of us who don't spend our free time reading
 package dependencies, the name gimp doesn't suggest there's a
 gimp-nonfree any more than shellutils suggests a
 shellutils-nonfree.

Dselect will prompt you for every sugested and recommended package, which
is not installed (apt-get don't, one could file a wishlist-bug against
apt, who about an comand line option to show not installed, suggested
packages, something like 'apt-get show-suggested gimp' in this case). But
when using dselect you don't have to look at the dependencies.

 [...]

Martin

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Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Brian Boonstra

 dd --- diskdump --- is what you want.  Byte for byte copying.


I'm not so sure this would work around bad sectors on the hard drives.


- Brian


Re: shared library not found

1999-11-18 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Alex V. Toropov wrote:

 
 Hi all
 
 I'm trying to run WordPerfect for linux from Corel
 It stops with error libXpm.so.4 not found
 
 when I try ldd xwp it shows among rest lines:
 libXpm.so.4 = not found
 
 
 when I try ldconfig -p it shows among rest lines:
 libXpm.so.4 (libc6) = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4
 
 what is the problem?
 Why ldconfig shows libXpm in cache and ldd (ld.so as well) cann't find
 them ?
 

grab libc5 libXpm and all would be ok

OK


Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread Martyn Pearce

Brian Boonstra writes:
|  dd --- diskdump --- is what you want.  Byte for byte copying.
| 
| 
|   I'm not so sure this would work around bad sectors on the hard drives.

If you mean bad blocks, then the HDD will not present them to the
outside world.

Mx.


Re: Presentations with latex

1999-11-18 Thread Martin Fluch
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Manuel Arenaz Silva wrote:

 I use latex to prepare my presentations. Before installing Debian Slink
 (default workstation setup), I had a latex class called seminar.cls
 available. Nevertheless, I cannot use it now bacause it is not
 installed. Which package(s) do I have to install? Are there any other
 latex recomended packages to install?

tetex-nonfree

There is an posibility to search for packages containing a specific file
at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages called Search the 'Contents of
the Latest Release'...

Martin

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Re: how to start an obnoxious daemon at boot?

1999-11-18 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 18 Nov, Ethan Benson wrote about how to start an obnoxious daemon at 
boot?
 
 does anyone have any suggestions for how to do this?  does there 
 happen to be a replacement software for these UPSs (that works in 
 smart mode) ?
 

You didn't mention if you tried the bpowerd Debian package.  

Package: bpowerd
Priority: extra
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 37
Maintainer: Mitch Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Version: 2.2-1
Provides: ups-monitor
Depends: sysvinit (= 2.69), libc6 (= 2.0.7u)
Conflicts: ups-monitor
Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/admin/bpowerd_2.2-1.deb
Size: 11992
MD5sum: 7fd176f6f425f68e8dab71aad3da3f05
Description: monitor UPS status for Best Patriot power supplies
 bpowerd is used to monitor a serial port for the status of
 a  Best  Patriot  power  supply.   It runs as a daemon and
 sends status information to the system log.   bpowerd  can
 detect  powerfail,  battery-low,  and power-restore condi-
 tions.   The  status   is   communicated   to   init   via
 /dev/initctl.  bpowerd can also send a signal to the power
 supply's inverter by using the -k switch.


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Re: pppd Crashes Serial Port

1999-11-18 Thread aphro
On 17 Nov 1999, John Hasler wrote:

john The information is correct at boot, however, the serial ports can be
john rearranged in the init scripts.

i read somewhere that the kernel just assumes what is what, i know for a
fact that the kernel incorrectly identifies my modem which i hardcode to
IRQ9 (IRQ2) and it detects the incorrect I/O address as well (forget it
off hand i dont have access to the machine from here).  during the 5 hour
process of trying to get 3 com ports working on different irqs and
different I/o addresses i read that.  as a result of the misdetection i 
have to use setserial manually to reconfigure the serial port on the modem

found it.. in the setserial manpage, if this is incorrect it should be
fixed(?)

[from setserial manpage]
During the normal bootup process, only COM ports  1-4  are initialized,
using  the default I/O ports and IRQ values, as listed below.
(...)
The standard MS-DOS port associations are given below:

/dev/ttyS0 (COM1), port 0x3f8, irq 4
/dev/ttyS1 (COM2), port 0x2f8, irq 3
/dev/ttyS2 (COM3), port 0x3e8, irq 4
/dev/ttyS3 (COM4), port 0x2e8, irq 3

[end excerpt]

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Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?

1999-11-18 Thread ferret


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Erik Mouw wrote:

 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:52:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:48:55PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'd like to set up a cross-compiler on my Lintel (AMD 266) to compile
   packages for my Sparc IPX. I'd preferably like to package the
   cross-compiler so I can esaily remove it if I no longer need it.
   
   The only cross-compiler in the slink packages list is for m68k.
   
   What do I need to do to set one up?
  
  The last cross-compiler I built (for kernel compiles) was using the m68k
  cross-compiler package. I just changed the m68k references to sparc, and
  ran dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot (change all of the m68k
  references in debian/ to sparc).
  
  I just did a 'debian/rules binary' in 'gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1' after
  changing 'm68k' to 'sparc', and I get a build error. Looks like the gcc
  buildstrap isn't working.
 
 make bootstrap doesn't work for cross compilers, have a look at the
 cross gcc FAQ: http://www.objsw.com/CrossGCC/ .
How was the package suppsed to build itself then, by hand? *g*

 
  ./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include  -I. -I. \
  -I./config  -g0 \
-finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions  \
-c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o
  as: option `-s' is ambiguous
  make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1'
  make: *** [build] Error 2
  
  I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough
  about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package
  from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx
  for some reason)
 
 Looks like you're using the native binutils instead of cross binutils.
 
  I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being
  downloaded as I type..
I can't get the cross' binutils-sparc (package hacked from binutils-m68k)
to build.

dpkg-gencontrol -Pdebian/tmp/binutils -pbinutils-sparc-linux
dpkg-gencontrol: error: source package has two conflicting values -
binutils-sparc-linux and binutils-m68k-linux
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 29

I edited all the references in debian/* from m68k' to sparc', and I don't
know enough about the package to even guess what else might need to be
tweaked.

 
 You also need libc and kernel header files for the target system. The
 kernel has to be configured for the target system, but that can be done on
 the build host.
 
 
 Erik
 
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get info on installed debian system

1999-11-18 Thread Evan Moore
How can I get version info etc. about the dist of debian that is already
installed on a machine?

Thanks Evan


Re: TCP (over ppp) problem with kernel 2.2.x

1999-11-18 Thread aphro
On 18 Nov 1999, Miles Bader wrote:

miles Hi, I have a problem which is driving me crazy: If I use a 2.2.x kernel
miles (as opposed to 2.0.36), I can't make any network connections (over my
miles ppp link) that require tcp.  In other works, non-tcp net stuff, like
miles ping or dns lookup, work fine, but telnets just hang.

check the routing table?  2.2.x handles initialization of routes slightly
differently, although ive never had any probs going from 2.0 to 2.2 (just
upgraded 2 machines yesterday.

and what kernel are you using? exactly ? check your firewall rules
too.. that ipmasq package has been nothin but trouble for me, pisses me
off :)

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Re: How to savely copy a disk?

1999-11-18 Thread wir95cgu
  | my harddisk is on the edge (still dma/ irq errors). Is there an easy way
  | to copy all partitions (Vfat WinNT/ Debian Linux/ Linux Swap) to new one
  | without reinstalling all things?

In my experience these dma/irq errors don't necessarily mean that your
hd is about to die. I had these with some older hard disks and they (the
errors) vanished when i turned off DMA data transfers (there is an option
in the kernel configuration for that, or you could use hdparm).

 ext2 partitions can easyly moved along with tar, and for swap partitions
 it makes no sense to copy them.
 
 vfat/winNT partitions seem to me mor tricky (I've never did that)

I've used cp -a to transfer both ext2 and vfat filesystems without any
problems. I don't know if there are some risks in copying open files,
anyway i played it safe and booted from cdrom before copying.

Hope this helps
Matthias




Re: Cross-compiling on Debian systems?

1999-11-18 Thread ferret


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Ben Collins wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:38:26PM +0100, Erik Mouw wrote:
  On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:52:42 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC-O2 -I./include  -I. -I. \
   -I./config  -g0 \
 -finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions -fno-exceptions  \
 -c ./crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN -o crtbegin.o
   as: option `-s' is ambiguous
   make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
   make[1]: Leaving directory `gcc-m68k-linux-2.8.1'
   make: *** [build] Error 2
   
   I get the exact same error if I use dpkg-buildpackage. I don't know enough
   about building gcc to know what's wrong. And this is the source package
   from ftp.ca.debian.org (us.debian.org not responding to me through lynx
   for some reason)
  
  Looks like you're using the native binutils instead of cross binutils.
 
 Installing binutils-multiarch and compiling a native gas handles this.
MM. binutils-multiarch and dpkg-cross are in slink for Sparc, but are
only in potato for i386. Time to compile, most likely.

I'll try this stuff out and then get back to the lists if I have any
further problems.

But let me make sure I have this one right. I need to compile an
i386-binary gas that will compile for sparc?


 
   I also found out I need the binutils-m68k-linux package, and that's being
   downloaded as I type..
  
  You also need libc and kernel header files for the target system. The
  kernel has to be configured for the target system, but that can be done on
  the build host.
 
 Install dpkg-cross and convert the native sparc libc6 and libc6-dev
 packages. This will install them into /usr/sparc-linux/{include,lib} for
 the cross-compile.
 
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Re: PPP problems on potato

1999-11-18 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:28:34AM +0100, Onno wrote:
 I'm not an expert on this bit I have an idea...
 
 Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Serial connection established.
 Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Using interface ppp0
 Nov 17 21:29:14 debian pppd[137]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
 
 Here the error starts, the next line drops your connection.
 
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Connection terminated.
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
 Nov 17 21:29:46 debian pppd[137]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
 Nov 17 21:29:47 debian pppd[137]: Exit.
 
 Your link expects probably an 8N1 setting but finds a 7 somthing setting.
 Again I'm not an expert on this...
 
 What do these lines mean? How can they be corrected? Did someone 
 experience the same difficulties on potato installation?

I get these occasionally.  AFAICT, it is the result of the ppp
negotiation with your ISP failing.  It could very well indicate a
problem at the ISP end of the link, however.

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