Re: Impressora no Samba?

2008-03-27 Thread plebeo
Uai... se você está usando o Cups, para que ter o Samba compartilhando impressora?! Tem algum cliente Win9x?! Se é de Windows 2000 para cima e Linux, então nem precisa compartilhar esta impressora no Samba. É só Cups mesmo e pronto. Eu estou usando o samba, prq essa maquina é um servidor de

Re: Sistema de Custos, alguem conheçe algo ?

2008-03-27 Thread Renato S. Yamane
hamacker escreveu: O sistema de custos que me refiro é algo mais automatizado, cadastra-se os produtos, materias-primas, serviços, etc... todos com valores e quantidades e a relação entre eles, no final solta um preço de custo para aquele produto. Talvez seja algo além das suas necessidades,

Re: Fazer videos

2008-03-27 Thread Still
* Konnichiwa Carlos Augusto Beltrame-sama: ola pessoal, alguem sabe algum programa que captura a tela em forma de video, para se fazer tutoriais?? obrigado... Tem vários: - xvidcap -- avi - krecordmydesktop -- ogg - recordmydesktop -- ogg - vnc2swf -- swf Tem mais alguns,

Re: Acesso via serial

2008-03-27 Thread Marcos_A
Prezado ,,, Grato pelo retorno. Mas com sua dica não consegui fazer funcionar .. Consegui com o slattach rodando no proprio debian, fiz o seginte: nas duas maquinas debian #slattach -s 115200 /dev/ttyS1 depois subi a interface sl0 nas duas maquinas tambem #ifconfig sl0 IP-da-maquina netmask

CHAMADA PÚBLICA: DIVULGUE O FLISOL!

2008-03-27 Thread Ronald Emerson Scherolt da Costa
Olá Pessoal, Segue uma chamada para oficial para divulgação para o FLISOL 2008 em Brasília. CHAMADA PÚBLICA: DIVULGUE O FLISOL! O Festival Latinoamericano de Instalação de Software Livre (FLISOL) é o maior evento de difusão de Software Livre na América

Re: catalogo de livro

2008-03-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-03-2008 20:03, caio abreu ferreira wrote: Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: On 22-03-2008 13:19, caio abreu ferreira wrote: Leonardo Rosa wrote: Fala aê fera. Nunca usei, mas pelo que deu pra perceber, atende as suas necessidades.

Re: Moinmoin e temas para as Wikis.

2008-03-27 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-03-2008 16:16, Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática wrote: Exatamente! Cada wiki tem o seu diretório data e underlay, além do mais no arquivo farmconfig.py tenho todas as wikis configuradas na lista wikis e cada uma com o seu wikiconfig.py

Monitorar serviço LDAP em sincronia

2008-03-27 Thread Pedro Celio
Olá pessoal, Montei um servidor LDAP com um PDC com a base de dados sincronizadas com um BDC, os dois autenticando usuários windows através do samba. Tá funcionando corretamente. Se o PDC para o BDC assume automaticamente, para não deixar os usuários impedidos de acessar a rede. Ai surgiu a

Re: Monitorar serviço LDAP em sincronia

2008-03-27 Thread Rodrigo Resende
Oi Pedro, Nagios pode ajudar Abs, Rodrigo Pedro Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Olá pessoal, Montei um servidor LDAP com um PDC com a base de dados sincronizadas com um BDC, os dois autenticando usuários windows através do samba. Tá funcionando corretamente. Se o PDC para o BDC assume

Re: Problemas Placa de Rede RTL8139D

2008-03-27 Thread Márcio H. Parreiras
Placa falsificada :-) Algumas funcionam com o drive via-rhine, outras com o sundance, fealnx ou tulip. -- Márcio H. Parreiras @ Pedro Leopoldo - MG - Brazil Por favor evite enviar-me anexos Excel (.xls), PowerPoint (.ppt) ou Word (.doc); Veja

Nnsey, pick matches for Liunard

2008-03-27 Thread LoveHappens
choose a match for Liunard Klaudytza, Romania Gianina, Romania Ariana, Romania Ana Maria, Romania Viorica, Romania see all the people you're helping: http://www.lovehappens.com/fw/friend/helpeeList.html?al=fXuWBtJvsxa9e_WEsid=1983supp=M-HELPER invite your

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:05:53AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: Well, yes, it works, but I get mail sent to me by cron explaining that the job executed successfully. I'd prefer not to get the mail. I don't get mail for any of the other jobs in cron.daily, and I don't understand enough of

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread ss11223
On Mar 26, 12:10 pm, Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh. Sorry. This page:http://www.google.com/trends?q=debian Ah, but compare to other queries like linux or japan or massachusetts or canada. Maybe there just is a general downward trend for many general terms. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Addons and Iceweasel

2008-03-27 Thread Walt L. Williams
Greetings Possibly a simple question. How can I get my favorite firefox addons to work with iceweasel Walt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

2008-03-27 Thread Joey Hess
David Fox wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you informed sculpture.cz or wherever the mail originated? I'd rather have them know that they have to reconfigure their mail system. I CCed the first message to their Postmaster, maybe

Re: debian sdcc + pic16f877a help

2008-03-27 Thread jeffry s
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Amit Uttamchandani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:15:47 +0800 jeffry s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anyone here who work on pic16f877a. i am using debian sid. and doing c programming for pic16f877a. but i am new and don't have any

Re: Addons and Iceweasel

2008-03-27 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Walt L. Williams wrote: Greetings Possibly a simple question. How can I get my favorite firefox addons to work with iceweasel Just install them. As you would in Firefox. They'll workt the same. Iceweasel is Firefox. Just the name has been changed. -- Overflow on /dev/null, please

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Mark Neidorff
OK. Try that search again. This time add , windows xp (the comma will give you 2 graphs on the same axes), or try , windows vista. I don't think that this is a valid tool for predicting user base. On Wednesday 26 March 2008 10:51 am, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 02:43:37PM

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Marcher
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This indicates that Debian is losing its users, e.g.

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 26 Mar 2008, ss11223 wrote: On Mar 26, 12:10 pm, Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh. Sorry. This page:http://www.google.com/trends?q=debian Ah, but compare to other queries like linux or japan or massachusetts or canada. Maybe there just is a general downward trend for

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Bob Cox
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 21:28:12 +0800, Wei Chen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Oh. Sorry. This page: http://www.google.com/trends?q=debian http://www.google.com/trends?q=debian,fedora,suse Lies, damned lies and statistics ;-) -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. signature.asc

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PS: people don't like ponies either, apparently. http://www.google.com/trends?q=poniesctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0 want to see what's /really/ popular recently? http://www.google.com/trends?q=recessionctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0 Cybe R. Wizard --

Re: Digital Camera

2008-03-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/26/08 07:27, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/25/08 19:00, s. keeling wrote: David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 07:43:37AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2008 11:43:37 pm Wei Chen wrote: The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This

Re: curious -anyone else seeing this?

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 03:18:57PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Mumia W.. wrote on 2008-03-26 12:55: I'm just a user. I meant that I configured my mailreader to ignore such messages. But yes, someone (not I) should inform sculpture.cz of the problem. It's probably futile though; if

SOLVED: LVM operations block

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Marcher
Hi, a quick note so that it will get indexed :) I'm on a plain debian/etch (no backports or other unofficial packages not originally included in etch) Whenever I do operations on lvm (pvdisplay, vgdisplay, lvdisplay) it just sits there and blocks. It does look like it's waiting for some I/O.

Re: Addons and Iceweasel

2008-03-27 Thread Jochen Schulz
Walt L. Williams: How can I get my favorite firefox addons to work with iceweasel The same way you do it with Firefox. Additionally, some addons are available as Debian packages and can be installed system-wide. J. -- I enjoy shopping, eating, sex and doing jigsaw puzzles of idealised

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread omer
Hi, I tried to whip up a small cron job, I put a short script in /etc/cron.daily thinking that this would work. Well, yes, it works, but I get mail sent to me by cron explaining that the job executed successfully. I'd prefer not to get the mail. I don't get mail for any of the other jobs

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Brian McKee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-Mar-08, at 2:43 AM, Wei Chen wrote: Hi, The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search take heart - IE is already dead!

email without From: header (was: disassembling machine code)

2008-03-27 Thread Mirko Parthey
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 08:33:52PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: Mutt may be a lesser piece of crap than most mailers, but it is still a piece of crap. It screws up when From: is missing, and acts as if you had send it. I think it may be worse than that: I set my MTA up to add a default

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Marcher
Hi, afaik cron (by default) mails all output from a script. If i create a cronjob I usually dump all stdout (just redirect it to /dev/null) But I want to be informed of any errors so I keep stderr. example: # this will get mailed echo My cool cron script # this will not mail stdout, but

Re: debian sdcc + pic16f877a help

2008-03-27 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:15:47 +0800 jeffry s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anyone here who work on pic16f877a. i am using debian sid. and doing c programming for pic16f877a. but i am new and don't have any idea how to start. anyone can help me or point me a good sdcc+pic tutorial out

Re: Tunnel iceweasel?

2008-03-27 Thread Joost Witteveen
Hi, the issue here isn't the speed Well, you mentioned it takes forever, so I thought I'd help you with speed as well:). and besides, i prefer to have it directly connected to my Xserver, rather than runnign in VNC. Me too, but for me a direct X connection is simply to slow. The point

Re: how to determine from script if/where X is running

2008-03-27 Thread Patter
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:50:07 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: Most programs simply check for the DISPLAY environment variable. This is not totally reliable as it can be changed at will, but if the user messes around with that variable, it is considered his fault. And you're in good company.

Re: how to determine from script if/where X is running

2008-03-27 Thread Bob McGowan
Martin Kraus wrote: Hello, is there a standard way in debian to determine on what VT and display is X running? Say I have a script that does something and I need to return output to the user, but the user can be in linux console or in X or X doesn't have to be running etc. So I need to

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Curt Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I tried to whip up a small cron job, I put a short script in /etc/cron.daily thinking that this would work. Well, yes, it works, but I get mail sent to me by cron

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Wei Chen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/3/26, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Wei The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Max Hyre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Wei Chen: May I remind you of some wisdom from /.'s poll results page: This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything

Re: Gnome Network Manager appears disconnected when using Static IP...

2008-03-27 Thread El Amigo De La Playa
Thank you, Roberto, for your answer. Here's my feedback: 1) My user account is indeed part of the netdev group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ groups martin adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev powerdev 2) I use a static IP for this eth0... Thank you anyway, if any

Re: debian sdcc + pic16f877a help

2008-03-27 Thread owens
is there anyone here who work on pic16f877a. i am using debian sid. and doing c programming for pic16f877a. but i am new and don't have any idea how to start. anyone can help me or point me a good sdcc+pic tutorial out there. it seems not so many i can found by asking google :(

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff
Wei Chen wrote: Hi, The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This indicates that Debian is losing its users, e.g. about 50% in the last 3 years. The Debian team should

Risposta automatica Fuori sede: ***INFECTED*** delivery failed

2008-03-27 Thread Federica Prete
Thank you for your email. I am out of office and I will be back on 31th of March. I will answer as soon as possible. Kind regards Federica Prete

Re: Addons and Iceweasel

2008-03-27 Thread Carl Fink
Install them as usual. Iceweasel is Firefox, except Debian can't use the trademark. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 04:49:09PM -0600, Walt L. Williams wrote: Greetings Possibly a simple question. How can I get my favorite firefox addons to work with iceweasel Walt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

KDM XDMCP error

2008-03-27 Thread Towncat
I have two lenny boxes, and I want to login to an X session on one of them from the other using XDMCP. If I run KDM on the remote machine and try to log in, KDM just restarts. If I run XDM on the same machine, I can login in through XDMCP. I can also log in with KDM locally on the remote machine.

Re: Common home with multiboot

2008-03-27 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Sudev Barar wrote: I have three different flavours of Linux on my laptop...Ubuntu, Debian and Ubuntu Beta. The third really is changed from time to time to Fedora/CentOs/Suse etc... for testing. Common problem was how to keep mail/browser and my ssh keys etc. working when I switch from

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 06:28:12 am Wei Chen wrote: Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/3/26, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This

Fwd: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread Strong Cypher
-- Forwarded message -- From: Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:13:54 +0100 Subject: Re: Silent Cron Jobs To: Curt Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] your script need to drop any think from output to be able to drop mail sending you have to redirect any command line

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread CaT
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:28:12PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This indicates that Debian is losing its users, e.g. about 50%

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread Patter
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:40:12 +0100, Curt Howland wrote: I tried to whip up a small cron job, I put a short script in /etc/cron.daily thinking that this would work. Well, yes, it works, but I get mail sent to me by cron explaining that the job executed successfully.

debian on Dell R900

2008-03-27 Thread Lestat V.
I am trying to use 2.22-bigmem kernel on Dell R900( wherein 4 Xeon E7310's and 16G RAM). When I boot it, it goes well until it dectected 16 CPU's and display information Brought up 16 CPUs and then the boot process suspends!! PS. It works well with 2.22 kernel(non-bigmem)! Can anyone help to

Re: Tunnel iceweasel?

2008-03-27 Thread John Schmidt
On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Rich Healey wrote: Joost Witteveen wrote: On 24/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:46:56AM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: On 23/03/2008, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to tunnel an iceweasel

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread W Paul Mills
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curt Howland wrote: | Hi. | | I tried to whip up a small cron job, I put a short script | in /etc/cron.daily thinking that this would work. | | Well, yes, it works, but I get mail sent to me by cron explaining that | the job executed successfully. |

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Deng Xiyue
Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/3/26, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Wei The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This indicates

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Joey Hess
Juha Tuuna wrote: Do 'losing users' correlate 1:1 (or with some other ratio) to using the word 'Debian' as a search word in your search engine here? Maybe someone maintaining a _major_ mirror could tell something about installer downloads. http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png As

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Brian McKee [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Mar 27 06:47 -0500]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-Mar-08, at 2:43 AM, Wei Chen wrote: Hi, The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the

Bruce Perens run for OSI board?

2008-03-27 Thread s. keeling
This is Bruce' platform statement: http://techp.org/p/7 My question is, why has he only garnered ca. 1800 votes? Has nobody heard of this? Do you know something I don't? He was a Debian DPL, his being at Pixar gives us Potato, Etch, etc., he runs technocrat.net, one of the most thoughtful

Re: Gnome Network Manager appears disconnected when using Static IP...

2008-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:13 AM, El Amigo De La Playa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I wanted to have my regular static IP (I need it, because I share files between various PC's in my local network...). I successfully configured it, but the nm-applet 0.6.5 displayed the red cross, saying no

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread Tom Goulet
On 3/26/08, Curt Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to whip up a small cron job, I put a short script in /etc/cron.daily thinking that this would work. Well, yes, it works, but I get mail sent to me by cron explaining that the job executed successfully. That's odd, usually cron only

Re: Configuring dhcp3 to send hostname mappings to clients

2008-03-27 Thread Reid Priedhorsky
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:10:08 +0100, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 01:45:55PM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: On 23/03/2008, Reid Priedhorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, My /etc/hosts contains a handful of mappings useful on my internal subnet: The

Debian users on LinkedIN

2008-03-27 Thread Tim Thaens
I believe a lot of computer technical people (and thus also a lot of debian users) are using the professional-networking website Linkedin ( www.linkedin.com). There is a feature in LinkedIN to be part groups. I've searched for a long time, and I finaly came across a debian usersgroup. Maybe you

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, March 25, 2008 11:43 pm, Wei Chen wrote: The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This indicates that Debian is losing its users, e.g. about 50% in the last 3

Debian users on LinkedIN

2008-03-27 Thread Tim Thaens
I believe a lot of computer technical people (and thus also a lot of debian users) are using the professional-networking website Linkedin ( www.linkedin.com). There is a feature in LinkedIN to be part groups. I've searched for a long time, and I finaly came across a debian usersgroup. Maybe you

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Wei Chen wrote: The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This indicates that Debian is losing its users, e.g. about 50% in the last 3 years. I'm

liszt.debiang.org having trouble?

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Hey list, it's sort of futile to report a list problem to the list, but... here it is. Is anyone else seeing problems sending mail to the list? I'm getting debian-user mail stacked up in my mailq. Typical messages from liszt.debian.org are 451 4.3.5 Server configuration error or SMTP timeout ...

Re: Problems after upgrading to Lenny

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:17:28AM +, Michael wrote: Hi list, i upgraded to Debian Lenny two months ago. Now i'm having some problems with my Computer. One of the most annoying is that the computer freezes from time to time without any hints. It just stops and i have to reboot. Another

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:23:41AM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: On 26/03/2008, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West That means I get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13:11AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Maybe you don't came across: on the list linux.debian.ports.amd64 this was discussed several times, see, e.g., Re: In-place upgrade from i386 http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2008/02/msg00155.html I hadn't seen that,

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:28:12PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/3/26, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Wei The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Tim Thaens
But what about users who already installed that software? They aren' t going to be in the count everytime, but they are still debian users. 2008/3/27, Deng Xiyue [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/3/26, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Wei

[OT] how to connect to nokia 5100 screen

2008-03-27 Thread Jabka Atu
Hello,.. I found an old nokia 5100 phone in my garage and realized that it can be connected to a computer. i ripped the screen out and found out that there are 9 pins that controlling it. did anyone did some DIY hack with it ? im searching for some circute to connect it to my computer . --

ZIP File Blocking - Report

2008-03-27 Thread exadmin
The container file(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED] were deleted. The original attachment was blocked from delivery due to current attachment blocking rules. If you wish to send a container file, please rename the file extension to an unknown extension. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: debian on Dell R900

2008-03-27 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Lestat V. wrote: I am trying to use 2.22-bigmem kernel on Dell R900( wherein 4 Xeon E7310's and 16G RAM). When I boot it, it goes well until it dectected 16 CPU's and display information Brought up 16 CPUs and then the boot process suspends!! PS. It works well with 2.22 kernel(non-bigmem)! Can

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Rico Secada
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 02:43:37PM +0800, Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most famous search engines. This indicates that Debian is losing its users, e.g.

Re: liszt.debiang.org having trouble?

2008-03-27 Thread Bob Cox
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 14:36:39 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hey list, it's sort of futile to report a list problem to the list, but... here it is. Is anyone else seeing problems sending mail to the list? I'm getting debian-user mail stacked up in my mailq.

Re: Addons and Iceweasel

2008-03-27 Thread Walt L. Williams
Thank you for the replies I can click on the Tools and Add-ons and it already shows that I have them installed. The only thing is there not (??) active. Maybe I will have to delete what is there and reinstall them. Any thoughts? Best Regards Walt L. Williams On Thursday, 27 March 2008 5:11

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-27 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Klein Moebius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Touche. But if I told my wife I married her for her cookies... Of course. Only at his peril does a man tells his wife the real reason he married her. Shhh! Pfft, we all know

Can I configure one truetype font for ghostscript while bitmap fonts for other applications?

2008-03-27 Thread Wu Kejia
Hi all, Because truetype font is somewhat obscure on screen, I wish to use truetype as printing font while bitmap fonts for screen display. Can I do that? Thank you for any instructions. Best regards, Wu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Alsa Problems with new Etch

2008-03-27 Thread alan
Assembled Wisdom! As mentioned here in a different thread, I pursued, perhaps idiosyncratically, the goal of upgrading from sarge to etch, and have now for the most part a successful etch system. My biggest remaining problem is ALSA. I believe it to be successfully installed, since I used the

Re: liszt.debiang.org having trouble?

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:54:07PM +, Bob Cox wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 14:36:39 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hey list, it's sort of futile to report a list problem to the list, but... here it is. ... Seems ok now. yep, we're back ;) A

Re: Silent Cron Jobs

2008-03-27 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 March 2008, Patter [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/cron/ Thanks for all the help, everyone. Indeed, for this, redirecting stderr is just fine too, so cmd /dev/null 21 is exactly what I need.

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am somewhat disappointed that when you see that post, what most of you, if not all, reply to argue that the decrease of search volume does not indicate the loss of users, rather than thinking of ideas for something that can be done to help,

I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Walt L. Williams
Greetings all I just made the move from SuSE 10.3 to Debian Etch. When I updated from SuSE 10.0 to 10.3 I found myself disgusted at how unpolished and rough it was. Things that worked before didn't after the update. XMMS was gone, I couldn't play MP3's, the online update feature was broken,

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 01:12:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Juha Tuuna wrote: Do 'losing users' correlate 1:1 (or with some other ratio) to using the word 'Debian' as a search word in your search engine here? Maybe someone maintaining a _major_ mirror could tell something about

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 06:23:38 pm Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PS: people don't like ponies either, apparently. http://www.google.com/trends?q=poniesctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0 want to see what's /really/ popular recently?

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:13:58AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 26 Mar 2008, ss11223 wrote: On Mar 26, 12:10 pm, Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh. Sorry. This page:http://www.google.com/trends?q=debian Ah, but compare to other queries like linux or japan or

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 10:11:45 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote: What I find interesting is the much smaller relative magnitude of the new release spike for debian. I would attribute this to the fact that new releases are becoming so easy that there is no need for traffic. THe migration

Re: debian on Dell R900

2008-03-27 Thread Marcin Giedz
Try and install kernel for BIGSMP more than 8CPU's in system. I've the same problem with Intel Harwitch 16CPU's. Regards, Marcin - Wiadomosc oryginalna - *Od:* Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Do:* Lestat V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Kopia:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Data:* 27.03.2008

Re: Alsa Problems with new Etch

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:30:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assembled Wisdom! As mentioned here in a different thread, I pursued, perhaps idiosyncratically, the goal of upgrading from sarge to etch, and have now for the most part a successful etch system. My biggest remaining

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Micha
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:49:32 +0100 Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wei Chen wrote on 2008-03-26 14:28: Oh. Sorry. This page: http://www.google.com/trends?q=debian - From this [1] it would appear, that debian is presently

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Michael Marsh
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - From comparing the results on 'windows' and 'linux' of that site, it would appear that only about three times as many people prefer the first to the latter [3]. [3]

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Bob Cox
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:23:11 +0800, Wei Chen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] Even if the losing of users is not proportional to the decrease of search volume, there is a high probability that they are positively correlated. Is there? How? Why? What losing of users? For a computer

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Bogdan Marian
Walt L. Williams wrote: Greetings all I just made the move from SuSE 10.3 to Debian Etch. When I updated from SuSE 10.0 to 10.3 I found myself disgusted at how unpolished and rough it was. Things that worked before didn't after the update. XMMS was gone, I couldn't play MP3's, the online

Cannot boot from root lvm volume: lvm2 broken?

2008-03-27 Thread Benjamin Kircher
Hi there, need some advice over here. Installed Etch from netinstall iso and upgraded to sid, which works flawlessly. All partitions except /boot are in a LVM group (even my root fs is a LVM volume). Then I removed (more precise: purged) 2.6.18-5-486 kernel in favor of 2.6.24-1-686. After

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Alsom, FTR, I've learned that the biggest hurdle is the fact that you can't complete the debootstrap process without already running a 64bit kernel. You need to be able to chroot into the new install and run *its* binaries to complete the process. That means you need

Re: how to determine from script if/where X is running

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Kraus
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 06:38:31PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: Hello Martin, On 2008-03-26 16:25 +0100, Martin Kraus wrote: Hello, is there a standard way in debian to determine on what VT and display is X running? Say I have a script that does something and I need to return output

Re: Cannot boot from root lvm volume: lvm2 broken?

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 08:32:50PM +0100, Benjamin Kircher wrote: Hi there, need some advice over here. Installed Etch from netinstall iso and upgraded to sid, which works flawlessly. All partitions except /boot are in a LVM group (even my root fs is a LVM volume). Then I removed (more

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:32:35PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Alsom, FTR, I've learned that the biggest hurdle is the fact that you can't complete the debootstrap process without already running a 64bit kernel. You need to be able to chroot into the new

Re: Alsa Problems with new Etch

2008-03-27 Thread alan
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:30:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alsa has gone through some changes. And though I'm no expert at all, you should likely provide us with some additional information to help you on the way. Please provide the output of dpkg -l \*alsa\* and lsmod | grep

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:23:11PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am somewhat disappointed that when you see that post, what most of you, if not all, reply to argue that the decrease of search volume does not indicate the loss of users, rather

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:58:02AM -0700, Jeff wrote: If you want Debian to be popular with more people, work at making it better for more people. However, be careful not to make it worse for the previously loyal users. If you add fancy but fragile knobs and eye-candy, the fragility will

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