date:20120711

El Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:49:55 -0400, luis escribió:

 On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:30:38 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote:
 El Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:13:09 -0400, luis escribió:

 On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:09:32 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote:

 (...)

 En resumen, depende del modelo/chipset exacto de módem: entre un PCI
 bueno o un USB malote me quedo con el PCI.

 Gracias Camaleon el chipset es Motorola

 ¿Sabes la cantidad de chipsets que tiene Motorola? ;-)

 Esa información es insuficiente, necesitas saber el chipset exacto
 tanto de Conexant como de Motorola. O al menos el modelo del modem.
 
 Si el choset es Motorola

¿Te has quedado en un bucle espacio-tiempo? :-)

Ya sé que el chipset es motorola (y conexant) pero hay varios chipsets 
motorolas y conexants, es necesario saber el modelo exacto de ambos para 
comprobar si tiene soporte en linux o no.

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Re: Buscar mensajes en el archivo de la lista (era: Introduccion a UML - 1341862915)

El Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:22:07 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió:

 2012/7/10 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

(...)

 http://lists.debian.org/caabycjoepbkrs7zuaupjwhu8bc_m_n0oqpwooykjclsjw...@mail.gmail.com

 podría automatizarme el proceso de encontrar un hilo en el archivo? o
 para qué sirve?

 No sé qué es esa URL :-?, pero puedes buscar mensajes en el archivo de
 la lista por su identificador:

 http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/


 Es un alias a ese buscador.
 
 http://lists.debian.org/id se traduce a
 http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/?m=id

El problema es que la URL de arriba no me devuelve nada, da error:

***
Sorry, no match found for message-id 
caabycjoepbkrs7zuaupjwhu8bc_m_n0oqpwooykjclsjw...@mail.gmail.com
***

Por eso decía que no sabía de dónde venía, a no ser que sea de un mensaje 
que ya haya sido eliminado del archivo.

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Re: Chequear consumo de conexión a internet en Router /Firewall con Debian

El Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:25:48 -0300, ciracusa escribió:

 Recién me consulta un usuario de la red que nota la conexión un poco
 lenta (vale decir que por esta conexíón salen mas de 100 usuarios).

¿Y qué capacidad tiene tu enlace?

Más de 100 usuarios para un ADSL de 1 MB/256 KB podría atorarse enseguida 
si no usas ningún tipo de QoS ni filtrado.
 
 Ahora bien, chequee el enlace con pings que hago a ciertos hosts para
 tener como parámetro y los valores son los habituales.

¿Hiciste ping al modem o al equipo que hace de router?

 Al respecto les consulto, que pruebas podría hacer para verificar que no
 se desmadre nada?

(...)

Podrías monitorizar el consumo del ancho de banda con vnstat, iptraf o 
ntop como ya haces.

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Re: Problema con logrotate

2012-07-11 Thread Maykel Franco Hernández


Buenas Silvia, gracias por tu interés.

No sé si lo vistes, pero dejé comentado por qué no me funcionaba:




Buenas, creo que he dado con el problema. No sé si llevaré razón o no, 
pero la versión que lleva es la logrotate 3.7.9


Me he generado un fichero en un server que tengo en casa, que tiene 
otra versión de logrotate 3.7.8


He realizado la misma prueba y en el server de mi casa funciona 
perfectamente...


http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2007-1002.html


Saludos y gracias.



El 2012-07-07 12:16, Silvia Pérez Sevilla escribió:

Hola.has podido probar loque te dije?
El 28/06/2012 14:30, Maykel Franco Hernández
may...@maykel.sytes.net [4] escribió:


Buenas tardes, tengo un servider web montado en un debian y quería
rotarlos diariamente cuando superen el tamaño de 1 GB. He puesto en
el cron que se ejecute la tarea cada hora. El cron funciona
correctamente el que falla es el logrotate. Esta es la
configuración que me falla:

/tmp/web-proxy.log {
    rotate 365
    daily
    missingok
    notifempty
    compress
    size 1024M
    create 640 apache apache
}

Ése log crece muy rápido por unas pruebas que estoy haciendo y
porque el nivel del log está puesto para que recoja todo. El
problema es que teniendo el log más de 1GB, el cron salta, ejecuta
la instrucción de logrotate pero no hace nada.

[root@server tmp]# du -hs *
32K     0410472063
40K     0518957361
32K     1365870157
1,2G    web-proxy.log

Lanzo el modo debug de logrotate para que lo simule:

[root@server tmp]# logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.d/web
reading config file /etc/logrotate.d/web

Handling 1 logs

rotating pattern: /tmp/alsa-proxy.log  after 1 days (365
rotations)
empty log files are not rotated, only log files = 1073741824 bytes
are rotated, old logs are removed
considering log /tmp/alsa-proxy.log
  log does not need rotating

Y esta es la tarea del cron:

0 * * * *       /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/alsa

Qué puede estar pasando??

Gracias por adelantado.

Saludos.

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Re: Re: chromium y facebook

2012-07-11 Thread Ariel

Yo tambien tnego el mismo problema, tanto con la version que esta en stable
como la de testing. en 32 y 64 bits respectivamente.
Con midori tambien existe dicho problema, por lo menos en testing.

Re: chromium y facebook

El Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:58:55 -0300, Ariel escribió:

Fiuuu... un poco tarde ¿no crees?

Y si además borras todo el texto del correo al que respondes, se pierde 
el contexto del correo. 

Y para rematar, una pizca de html en el mensaje, que le da sabor :-)

 Yo tambien tnego el mismo problema, tanto con la version que esta en
 stable como la de testing. en 32 y 64 bits respectivamente. Con midori
 tambien existe dicho problema, por lo menos en testing. 

El problema de Chromium y Facebook es que la versión de Squeeze es muy 
antigua, conviene instalar Chrome en su lugar.

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Re: Buscar mensajes en el archivo de la lista (era: Introduccion a UML - 1341862915)

2012-07-11 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2012/7/11 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 El Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:22:07 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió:

 2012/7/10 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 (...)

 http://lists.debian.org/caabycjoepbkrs7zuaupjwhu8bc_m_n0oqpwooykjclsjw...@mail.gmail.com

 podría automatizarme el proceso de encontrar un hilo en el archivo? o
 para qué sirve?

 No sé qué es esa URL :-?, pero puedes buscar mensajes en el archivo de
 la lista por su identificador:

 http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/


 Es un alias a ese buscador.

 http://lists.debian.org/id se traduce a
 http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/?m=id

 El problema es que la URL de arriba no me devuelve nada, da error:

 ***
 Sorry, no match found for message-id
 caabycjoepbkrs7zuaupjwhu8bc_m_n0oqpwooykjclsjw...@mail.gmail.com
 ***

 Por eso decía que no sabía de dónde venía, a no ser que sea de un mensaje
 que ya haya sido eliminado del archivo.


El problema es que el sistema de la lista que coloca esos enlaces en
el pie del mensaje quita algunos caracteres (al parecer los '=') de
los Message-Id, por lo que el enlace no encuentra al mensaje en el
archivo.

El message-id original era
CAABYcjOEPbkrS7Zua=Upjwhu8bc_m_n0oQpwOOyKJcLsj=w...@mail.gmail.com y a
ese si lo encuentra:

http://lists.debian.org/CAABYcjOEPbkrS7Zua=Upjwhu8bc_m_n0oQpwOOyKJcLsj=w...@mail.gmail.com

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Re: Buscar mensajes en el archivo de la lista (era: Introduccion a UML - 1341862915)

2012-07-11 Thread Pedro

Creo que ya lo entiendo,
todos los mensajes de arriba los puedo abrir ya, pero el anterior de
hace 3 minutos no.

Porque:
The archive is updated every 20 minutes.

Esto es problemático para los que leemos el correo de forma instantánea


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Re: Buscar mensajes en el archivo de la lista (era: Introduccion a UML - 1341862915)

El Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:46:15 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió:

 2012/7/11 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

(...)

 El problema es que la URL de arriba no me devuelve nada, da error:

 ***
 Sorry, no match found for message-id
 caabycjoepbkrs7zuaupjwhu8bc_m_n0oqpwooykjclsjw...@mail.gmail.com ***

 Por eso decía que no sabía de dónde venía, a no ser que sea de un
 mensaje que ya haya sido eliminado del archivo.


 El problema es que el sistema de la lista que coloca esos enlaces en el
 pie del mensaje quita algunos caracteres (al parecer los '=') de los
 Message-Id, por lo que el enlace no encuentra al mensaje en el archivo.

¿Mande? Yo los veo bien :-?
 
 El message-id original era
 CAABYcjOEPbkrS7Zua=Upjwhu8bc_m_n0oQpwOOyKJcLsj=w...@mail.gmail.com y a
 ese si lo encuentra:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/CAABYcjOEPbkrS7Zua=Upjwhu8bc_m_n0oQpwOOyKJcLsj=w...@mail.gmail.com

No sé de dónde se ha sacado esa URL, a mí no me aparece y los pie de 
página de mis mensajes funcionan bien, por ejemplo:

***
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jthirg$cnl$7...@dough.gmane.org
***

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Re: Buscar mensajes en el archivo de la lista (era: Introduccion a UML - 1341862915)

El Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:53:23 +0200, Pedro escribió:

 Creo que ya lo entiendo,
 todos los mensajes de arriba los puedo abrir ya, pero el anterior de
 hace 3 minutos no.
 
 Porque:
 The archive is updated every 20 minutes.
 
 Esto es problemático para los que leemos el correo de forma
 instantánea

Eso es otra cosa distinta de la que estamos hablando :-)

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Re: Buscar mensajes en el archivo de la lista (era: Introduccion a UML - 1341862915)

2012-07-11 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2012/7/11 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 El Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:46:15 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió:

 2012/7/11 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 (...)

 El problema es que la URL de arriba no me devuelve nada, da error:

 ***
 Sorry, no match found for message-id
 caabycjoepbkrs7zuaupjwhu8bc_m_n0oqpwooykjclsjw...@mail.gmail.com ***

 Por eso decía que no sabía de dónde venía, a no ser que sea de un
 mensaje que ya haya sido eliminado del archivo.


 El problema es que el sistema de la lista que coloca esos enlaces en el
 pie del mensaje quita algunos caracteres (al parecer los '=') de los
 Message-Id, por lo que el enlace no encuentra al mensaje en el archivo.

 ¿Mande? Yo los veo bien :-?

 El message-id original era
 CAABYcjOEPbkrS7Zua=Upjwhu8bc_m_n0oQpwOOyKJcLsj=w...@mail.gmail.com y a
 ese si lo encuentra:

 http://lists.debian.org/CAABYcjOEPbkrS7Zua=Upjwhu8bc_m_n0oQpwOOyKJcLsj=w...@mail.gmail.com

 No sé de dónde se ha sacado esa URL, a mí no me aparece y los pie de
 página de mis mensajes funcionan bien, por ejemplo:

 ***
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jthirg$cnl$7...@dough.gmane.org
 ***

 Saludos,

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Esa URL la añade el sistema de la lista de correo al final de cada
mensaje al reenviarlos a los usuarios. El problema es que el sistema
remueve los caracteres '=' de los Message-ID, dejando un enlace a un
message-id que no existe.

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OT: NAT via Telnet ¿se puede?

2012-07-11 Thread Jawifi

Buenas tardes, les hago esta consulta, que es SUPER OT, pero no se donde
hacerla.

Tengo un Modem Router Huawei HG520C y no encuentro la manera de
configurar el NAT via telnet.

Lo puedo hacer via web desde una pc de la lan, pero si lo quiero hacer
desde afuera, a traves de internet, entro por ssh a una pc de la lan y
quiero abrir un puerto (el 631 para cups) mediante telnet y no se
hacerlo, he buscado en google un buen rato y todo lo que encuentro es
para hacerlo a traves de browser, cosa que se hacer, pero no voy a ir al
lugar donde esta el router hasta dentro de diez días y necesito entrar a
la web de cups de manera urgente.

Si alguien me puede orientar, agradecido.
De lo contrario, pido disculpas por el OT.

Juan


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Re: OT: NAT via Telnet ¿se puede?

2012-07-11 Thread Marc Aymerich

2012/7/11 Jawifi jawif...@gmail.com:
 Buenas tardes, les hago esta consulta, que es SUPER OT, pero no se donde
 hacerla.

 Tengo un Modem Router Huawei HG520C y no encuentro la manera de
 configurar el NAT via telnet.

 Lo puedo hacer via web desde una pc de la lan, pero si lo quiero hacer

si lo puedes hacer via web y tienes accesso SSH entonces puedes hacer
un tunerl SSH y usarlo como proxy para acceder a la web de tu modem.

ssh -C2qTnN -D 8080 username@remote_machine.com

y luego en el firefox tienes que configurar un SOCKS proxy con 127.0.0.1 y 8080

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script para descargar y comprimir

2012-07-11 Thread inf

Tengo un script que me permite descargar la actualizacion del NOD32 de 
un ftp remoto y me genera un fichero de texto con informacion de la 
descarga, fecha, hora ,etc.


Quiero agregarle unas lineas al script para comprimir las carpetas 
descargadas, pero no tengo ni idea de como puede ser.


Alguna sugerencia?






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Re: script para descargar y comprimir

2012-07-11 Thread Flako

El día 11 de julio de 2012 16:13,  i...@zetihl.azcuba.cu escribió:
 Tengo un script que me permite descargar la actualizacion del NOD32 de un
 ftp remoto y me genera un fichero de texto con informacion de la descarga,
 fecha, hora ,etc.

 Quiero agregarle unas lineas al script para comprimir las carpetas
 descargadas, pero no tengo ni idea de como puede ser.

 Alguna sugerencia?


man tar, y gzip...


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Re: script para descargar y comprimir

2012-07-11 Thread JulHer

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El 11/07/12 21:13, i...@zetihl.azcuba.cu escribió:
 Tengo un script que me permite descargar la actualizacion del NOD32
 de un ftp remoto y me genera un fichero de texto con informacion de
 la descarga, fecha, hora ,etc.
 
 Quiero agregarle unas lineas al script para comprimir las carpetas 
 descargadas, pero no tengo ni idea de como puede ser.
 
 Alguna sugerencia?


Si...

cat mislineas  script

Si lo que quieres saber es que usar para comprimir... pues mira el man
de tar y el de gzip, por ejemplo.

Un saludo

JulHer

 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: script para descargar y comprimir

2012-07-11 Thread inf

ya tengo la solucion..en parte..todavia quiero afinar mas el script, la 
linea que le agregue quedaria asi


tar -czf KAV-$(date+%Y%m%d).tar.gz /ftp/Antivirus/actualizacion

Ahora..que pasa..el comprimido creado tiene la misma estructura de 
carpetas de donde se lee


/ftp
   /Antivirus
 /actualizacion


Me gustaria que solo quedara dentro del .tar.gz el contenido de la 
carpeta actualizacion.


Se entiende?


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Re: script para descargar y comprimir

2012-07-11 Thread sergiogomez


On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:20:01 +0200, i...@zetihl.azcuba.cu wrote:

ya tengo la solucion..en parte..todavia quiero afinar mas el script,
la linea que le agregue quedaria asi

tar -czf KAV-$(date+%Y%m%d).tar.gz /ftp/Antivirus/actualizacion

Ahora..que pasa..el comprimido creado tiene la misma estructura de
carpetas de donde se lee

/ftp
   /Antivirus
 /actualizacion


Me gustaria que solo quedara dentro del .tar.gz el contenido de la
carpeta actualizacion.

Se entiende?


actual=$PWD
cd /ftp/Antivirus/actualizacion
tar -czf KAV-$(date+%Y%m%d).tar.gz ./
cd $actual

Algo así?

Saludos.


 Sergio D. Gómez
Tostado (SF) Arg.


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Re: script para descargar y comprimir (SOLUCIONADO)

2012-07-11 Thread Josue


El 2012-07-11 16:29, sergiogomez escribió:

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:20:01 +0200, i...@zetihl.azcuba.cu wrote:

ya tengo la solucion..en parte..todavia quiero afinar mas el script,
la linea que le agregue quedaria asi

tar -czf KAV-$(date+%Y%m%d).tar.gz /ftp/Antivirus/actualizacion

Ahora..que pasa..el comprimido creado tiene la misma estructura de
carpetas de donde se lee

/ftp
   /Antivirus
 /actualizacion


Me gustaria que solo quedara dentro del .tar.gz el contenido de la
carpeta actualizacion.

Se entiende?


actual=$PWD
cd /ftp/Antivirus/actualizacion
tar -czf KAV-$(date+%Y%m%d).tar.gz ./
cd $actual

Algo así?

Saludos.


 Sergio D. Gómez
Tostado (SF) Arg.


Perfectoeso es lo que queria.

Gracias a todos por la ayuda


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Optimizar Debian

2012-07-11 Thread Carlos Carcamo

Saludos lista.

Últimamente he notado que mi sistema se ha vuelto un tanto mas lento,
inclusive se congela algunas veces, supongo que es por que tengo
varios programas instalados o porque a lo mejor estoy corriendo varios
programas a la vez..

Usando el reproductor de vídeo VLC, Aptana y el chrome se pone un
tanto lenta, mas aun cuando abro pestañas en el navegador, es obvio
que se pondrá lenta yo lo se, ya que mi pc tampoco es una gran cosa es
una minilaptop con 1GB de RAM y procesador Atom de 1.66GHz.

Se que no debo de esperar que debían haga maravillas con tan pocos
recursos pero he pensado que a lo mejor existe alguna forma de sacar
el máximo estos recursos, quizá quitando algunos servicios o algo por
el estilo...

Que me recomiendan hacer?, espero de su ayuda.

Saludos.



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Re: Optimizar Debian

2012-07-11 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2012/7/11 Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com:
 Saludos lista.

 Últimamente he notado que mi sistema se ha vuelto un tanto mas lento,
 inclusive se congela algunas veces, supongo que es por que tengo
 varios programas instalados o porque a lo mejor estoy corriendo varios
 programas a la vez..

 Usando el reproductor de vídeo VLC, Aptana y el chrome se pone un
 tanto lenta, mas aun cuando abro pestañas en el navegador, es obvio
 que se pondrá lenta yo lo se, ya que mi pc tampoco es una gran cosa es
 una minilaptop con 1GB de RAM y procesador Atom de 1.66GHz.

 Se que no debo de esperar que debían haga maravillas con tan pocos
 recursos pero he pensado que a lo mejor existe alguna forma de sacar
 el máximo estos recursos, quizá quitando algunos servicios o algo por
 el estilo...

 Que me recomiendan hacer?, espero de su ayuda.

 Saludos.


Qué entorno de escritorio utilizas? si estas en Gnome, lo más simple
es cambiarse a uno más ligero como XFCE o LXDE.
Sobre los servicios, hazlo, quita servicios que creas que no
necesites. De todos modos es fácil reponerlos si algo deja de
funcionar ;-)

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Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log visitas em certos sites ?

2012-07-11 Thread hamacker

Olá pessoal,

Gostaria de saber dos colegas se há alguma opção no squid3 que permita
não registrar no log visitas em certos sites.
Na empresa em que estou, eles são clientes do GoogleApps e usufruem de
todos os serviços do Google sob seu domínio registrado, ocorre que
mais de 80% do que é feito pelos colaboradores da Internet estão nos
servidores do google e aparecem no log do squid, esses registros de
visitas é inutil segundo a empresa então procurei alguma opção no
squid que me permitisse não registrar isso no log e não encontrei.

Então apliquei 2 modificações que funcionarão paralelamente, peguei
todos os registros do log que tinham a ver com visita ao google e
liberei no gateway/firewall e ajustei o squid para que esses sites
fossem ignorados pelo squid sendo portanto tratados pela
gateway/firewall. Além disso, tive de criar um script que varria os
logs do squid e removesse visitas ao google que por acaso tenham sido
tratados pelo squid. Isso deu trabalho para algo tão simples.

Assim eu gostaria de perguntar aos nobres colegas se alguem conhece
alguma opção de configuração do squid que permita não registrar no log
certos sites/url's.
Isso permitiria ter nos logs menores visando coisas que não são feijão
e arroz da empresa.

[]'s a todos.

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Problemas pós-upgrade do Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Éverton Arruda

Olá a todos.
Utilizo a versão Testing do Debian e há 2 dias atrás fiz um upgrade.

Antes desse upgrade, minha versão do Gnome era o 2 (ainda), e agora está
com o Gnome 3.4.

Após esse upgrade, 2 coisas eu não consegui corrigir:
1 - ícone de indicador de bateria não está sendo exibido no canto superior
direito (em nenhum canto, na realidade).
2 - Tema ficou quebrado, com aparência igual à do Windows 95, cinza e
quadrado ( aí você vê meu desespero :D )

Alguém passou por isso, ou pode me indicar alguma página que possa me
ajudar a corrigir tais problemas?

Passei os últimos dois dias procurando e testando possíveis soluções, mas
até agora nada.

Abraço,

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Re: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log visitas em certos sites ?

2012-07-11 Thread hamacker

Acho que me expressei mal.
A solução atual já é assim, determinados sites vão direto pelo gateway
sem o proxy-cache intermediando e com isso não há log do squid para
esses sites.

Eu procuro algo como :

acl sites_googleurl_regex -i /etc/squid3/acl/sites_google.txt
no-log sites_google

Porém, não há algo como no-log, ou pelo menos não encontrei ainda !
Então, o workaround que tenho feito é :
always_direct allow sites_google

Mas essa solução não é satisfatória porque eu perco o cache que
poderia melhorar a performance de minha rede.
Resumidamente, eu quero o cache, o que eu não quero é o log de
determinados sites.

[]'s

Em 11 de julho de 2012 11:48, Paulo Ricardo Bruck
paulobru...@gmail.com escreveu:
Bom dia

pelo que eu me lembro existe no squid a opção no-cache

exemplo:

acl google dstdomain .google.com
no-cache google

para o squid 2.7 no squid 3.x mudou para cache. Veja a doc em
http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/cache/

hehhee justamente agora que eu estou fazendo a documentação da solução
Zeus mostrando como se configura o squid..80)
http://www.contatogs.com.br ( GPL3)

bom divertimento 80)

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Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 11 de Julho de 2012 11:32:50
Assunto: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log visitas
em certos sites ?
Olá pessoal,

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Re: Problemas pós-upgrade do Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Rodolfo

Instala os pacotes responsáveis por tais gerenciamentos.

o de energia do gnome, se não me falhe a memória, é o *gnome-power*-manager,
e o de temas é o *gnome*-*themes*-extras, acho que a reinstalação de alguns
pacotes pode resolver.

Em 11 de julho de 2012 10:45, Éverton Arruda not...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá a todos.
 Utilizo a versão Testing do Debian e há 2 dias atrás fiz um upgrade.

 Antes desse upgrade, minha versão do Gnome era o 2 (ainda), e agora está
 com o Gnome 3.4.

 Após esse upgrade, 2 coisas eu não consegui corrigir:
 1 - ícone de indicador de bateria não está sendo exibido no canto superior
 direito (em nenhum canto, na realidade).
 2 - Tema ficou quebrado, com aparência igual à do Windows 95, cinza e
 quadrado ( aí você vê meu desespero :D )

 Alguém passou por isso, ou pode me indicar alguma página que possa me
 ajudar a corrigir tais problemas?

 Passei os últimos dois dias procurando e testando possíveis soluções, mas
 até agora nada.

 Abraço,

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Re: Problemas pós-upgrade do Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Éverton Arruda

Já os instalei, mas vou tentar reinstalá-los pra ver se resolve.

Mias tarde eu resondo se o problema foi solucionado.

Obrigado.

2012/7/11 Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com

 Instala os pacotes responsáveis por tais gerenciamentos.

 o de energia do gnome, se não me falhe a memória, é o *gnome-power*-manager,
 e o de temas é o *gnome*-*themes*-extras, acho que a reinstalação de
 alguns pacotes pode resolver.

 Em 11 de julho de 2012 10:45, Éverton Arruda not...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá a todos.
 Utilizo a versão Testing do Debian e há 2 dias atrás fiz um upgrade.

 Antes desse upgrade, minha versão do Gnome era o 2 (ainda), e agora está
 com o Gnome 3.4.

 Após esse upgrade, 2 coisas eu não consegui corrigir:
 1 - ícone de indicador de bateria não está sendo exibido no canto
 superior direito (em nenhum canto, na realidade).
 2 - Tema ficou quebrado, com aparência igual à do Windows 95, cinza e
 quadrado ( aí você vê meu desespero :D )

 Alguém passou por isso, ou pode me indicar alguma página que possa me
 ajudar a corrigir tais problemas?

 Passei os últimos dois dias procurando e testando possíveis soluções, mas
 até agora nada.

 Abraço,

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Instalando vncserver

2012-07-11 Thread Mauricio Neto


Amigos da lista,
Meu problema pode ser off-topic mas não aguento mais gloogar sem 
conseguir uma solução para o problema.


Instalei um servidor Debian como domU em um host Xen e como tenho que 
instalar o Oracle e o mesmo obriga uma interface gráfica optei por 
configurar o vncserver. Depois de muitos (muitos mesmo) tutoriais 
diferentes consegui conectar remotamente ao vnc mas a tela fica preta, 
não aparecendo nada.


Obs:Consultei e escrevi para a lista xen-br, lugar que considero mais 
logico esta busca,  mas não obtive resposta.


Abaixo os arquivos de configuração.

Arquivo/vncservers
VNCSERVERS=1:root
VNCSERVERARGS[1]=-geometry 800x600

/Arquivo //home/root/.vnc/xstartup/

unset SESSION_MANAGER
exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ]  exec /etc/vnc/xstartup
[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ]  xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
xsetroot -solid grey
vncconfig -iconic 
xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop 
gnome-session 

Percebi que executando a segunda linha já aparece um erro:
xrdb: Can't open display ''
xmodmap:  unable to open display ''
** (gnome-session:27510): WARNING **: Não foi possível abrir a tela:

Repetindo, já estou nesta briga a uma semana e não consigo resolver.

Agradecendo

Mauricio Neto


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Re: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log visitas em certos sites ?

2012-07-11 Thread hamacker

Me parece que essa opção é para desativar o log completamente ou
determinar o formato dele, não para delimitar o que deve ou não ir
para o log.


Em 11 de julho de 2012 15:41, Paulo Ricardo Bruck
paulobru...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Tarrrde 8)

 - Mensagem original -
 De: hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com
 Para: Paulo Ricardo Bruck paulobru...@gmail.com
 Cc: Lista Debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 11 de Julho de 2012 13:17:35
 Assunto: Re: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log 
 visitas em certos sites ?
 Acho que me expressei mal.
 A solução atual já é assim, determinados sites vão direto pelo gateway
 sem o proxy-cache intermediando e com isso não há log do squid para
 esses sites.

 Eu procuro algo como :

 acl sites_google url_regex -i /etc/squid3/acl/sites_google.txt
 no-log sites_google

 Porém, não há algo como no-log, ou pelo menos não encontrei ainda !
 Então, o workaround que tenho feito é :
 always_direct allow sites_google

 humm ok agora ficou + claro, mas tente tambem enviar sempre qual distro 
 debian vc está usando e qual a versão do squid.

 olhando mais calmamente a doc do squid.conf que vem comentada:

 zless /usr/share/doc/squid3-common/squid.conf.documented.gz


 vc tem :

 #  TAG: access_log
 #   These files log client request activities. Has a line every HTTP or
 #   ICP request. The format is:
 #   access_log filepath [logformat name [acl acl ...]]
 #   access_log none [acl acl ...]]
 #
 #   Will log to the specified file using the specified format (which
 #   must be defined in a logformat directive) those entries which match
 #   ALL the acl's specified (which must be defined in acl clauses).
 #   If no acl is specified, all requests will be logged to this file.
 #
 #   To disable logging of a request use the filepath none, in which case
 #   a logformat name should not be specified.
 #
 #   To log the request via syslog specify a filepath of syslog:
 #
 #   access_log syslog[:facility.priority] [format [acl1 [acl2 ]]]
 #   where facility could be any of:
 #   authpriv, daemon, local0 .. local7 or user.
 #
 #   And priority could be any of:
 #   err, warning, notice, info, debug.
 #
 #   Default:
 #   access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log squid
 #Default:
 # access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log squid

 bem eu nunca testei o
 access_log none acl acl acl
 access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log squid

 mas deve funcionar...80)

 []s



 Mas essa solução não é satisfatória porque eu perco o cache que
 poderia melhorar a performance de minha rede.
 Resumidamente, eu quero o cache, o que eu não quero é o log de
 determinados sites.

 []'s

 Em 11 de julho de 2012 11:48, Paulo Ricardo Bruck
 paulobru...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Bom dia
 
  pelo que eu me lembro existe no squid a opção no-cache
 
  exemplo:
 
  acl google dstdomain .google.com
  no-cache google
 
 
  para o squid 2.7 no squid 3.x mudou para cache. Veja a doc em
  http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/cache/
 
 
  hehhee justamente agora que eu estou fazendo a documentação da
  solução Zeus mostrando como se configura o squid..80)
  http://www.contatogs.com.br ( GPL3)
 
 
  bom divertimento 80)
 
  - Mensagem original -
  De: hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com
  Para: Lista Debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
  Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 11 de Julho de 2012 11:32:50
  Assunto: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log
  visitas em certos sites ?
  Olá pessoal,
 
  Gostaria de saber dos colegas se há alguma opção no squid3 que
  permita
  não registrar no log visitas em certos sites.
  Na empresa em que estou, eles são clientes do GoogleApps e usufruem
  de
  todos os serviços do Google sob seu domínio registrado, ocorre que
  mais de 80% do que é feito pelos colaboradores da Internet estão
  nos
  servidores do google e aparecem no log do squid, esses registros de
  visitas é inutil segundo a empresa então procurei alguma opção no
  squid que me permitisse não registrar isso no log e não encontrei.
 
  Então apliquei 2 modificações que funcionarão paralelamente, peguei
  todos os registros do log que tinham a ver com visita ao google e
  liberei no gateway/firewall e ajustei o squid para que esses sites
  fossem ignorados pelo squid sendo portanto tratados pela
  gateway/firewall. Além disso, tive de criar um script que varria os
  logs do squid e removesse visitas ao google que por acaso tenham
  sido
  tratados pelo squid. Isso deu trabalho para algo tão simples.
 
  Assim eu gostaria de perguntar aos nobres colegas se alguem conhece
  alguma opção de configuração do squid que permita não registrar no
  log
  certos sites/url's.
  Isso permitiria ter nos logs menores visando coisas que não são
  feijão
  e arroz da empresa.
 
  []'s a todos.
 
 
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Re: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log visitas em certos sites ?

2012-07-11 Thread Eden Caldas

Hamacker

Isso daqui é pra squid 2. Não testei mas faz sentido.

# Example how to configure Squid to not log certain requests
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/monit\/token$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/server-status$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/admedia\/reste_300x250.php$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/admedia\/reste_120x600.php$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/admedia\/reste_728x90.php$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/geoip\/rectangle_forum_postbit.html$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/geoip\/banner_iframe.php
acl dontlog urlpath_regex ^\/js\/amazon.js
acl dontlog urlpath_regex .js$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex .css$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex .png$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex .gif$
acl dontlog urlpath_regex .jpg$
access_log /var/log/squid/access.log combined !dontlog

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Em 11 de julho de 2012 18:05, hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Me parece que essa opção é para desativar o log completamente ou
 determinar o formato dele, não para delimitar o que deve ou não ir
 para o log.


 Em 11 de julho de 2012 15:41, Paulo Ricardo Bruck
 paulobru...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Tarrrde 8)
 
  - Mensagem original -
  De: hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com
  Para: Paulo Ricardo Bruck paulobru...@gmail.com
  Cc: Lista Debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
  Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 11 de Julho de 2012 13:17:35
  Assunto: Re: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log
 visitas em certos sites ?
  Acho que me expressei mal.
  A solução atual já é assim, determinados sites vão direto pelo gateway
  sem o proxy-cache intermediando e com isso não há log do squid para
  esses sites.
 
  Eu procuro algo como :
 
  acl sites_google url_regex -i /etc/squid3/acl/sites_google.txt
  no-log sites_google
 
  Porém, não há algo como no-log, ou pelo menos não encontrei ainda !
  Então, o workaround que tenho feito é :
  always_direct allow sites_google
 
  humm ok agora ficou + claro, mas tente tambem enviar sempre qual distro
 debian vc está usando e qual a versão do squid.
 
  olhando mais calmamente a doc do squid.conf que vem comentada:
 
  zless /usr/share/doc/squid3-common/squid.conf.documented.gz
 
 
  vc tem :
 
  #  TAG: access_log
  #   These files log client request activities. Has a line every HTTP
 or
  #   ICP request. The format is:
  #   access_log filepath [logformat name [acl acl ...]]
  #   access_log none [acl acl ...]]
  #
  #   Will log to the specified file using the specified format (which
  #   must be defined in a logformat directive) those entries which
 match
  #   ALL the acl's specified (which must be defined in acl clauses).
  #   If no acl is specified, all requests will be logged to this file.
  #
  #   To disable logging of a request use the filepath none, in
 which case
  #   a logformat name should not be specified.
  #
  #   To log the request via syslog specify a filepath of syslog:
  #
  #   access_log syslog[:facility.priority] [format [acl1 [acl2 ]]]
  #   where facility could be any of:
  #   authpriv, daemon, local0 .. local7 or user.
  #
  #   And priority could be any of:
  #   err, warning, notice, info, debug.
  #
  #   Default:
  #   access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log squid
  #Default:
  # access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log squid
 
  bem eu nunca testei o
  access_log none acl acl acl
  access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log squid
 
  mas deve funcionar...80)
 
  []s
 
 
 
  Mas essa solução não é satisfatória porque eu perco o cache que
  poderia melhorar a performance de minha rede.
  Resumidamente, eu quero o cache, o que eu não quero é o log de
  determinados sites.
 
  []'s
 
  Em 11 de julho de 2012 11:48, Paulo Ricardo Bruck
  paulobru...@gmail.com escreveu:
   Bom dia
  
   pelo que eu me lembro existe no squid a opção no-cache
  
   exemplo:
  
   acl google dstdomain .google.com
   no-cache google
  
  
   para o squid 2.7 no squid 3.x mudou para cache. Veja a doc em
   http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/cache/
  
  
   hehhee justamente agora que eu estou fazendo a documentação da
   solução Zeus mostrando como se configura o squid..80)
   http://www.contatogs.com.br ( GPL3)
  
  
   bom divertimento 80)
  
   - Mensagem original -
   De: hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com
   Para: Lista Debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
   Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 11 de Julho de 2012 11:32:50
   Assunto: Há alguma opção no squid3 que permita não registrar no log
   visitas em certos sites ?
   Olá pessoal,
  
   Gostaria de saber dos colegas se há alguma opção no squid3 que
   permita
   não registrar no log visitas em certos sites.
   Na empresa em que estou, eles são clientes do GoogleApps e usufruem
   de
   todos os serviços do Google sob seu domínio registrado, ocorre que
   mais de 80% do que é feito pelos colaboradores da Internet estão

Re: Installing a new HDD and mounting others

On Mi, 11 iul 12, 05:27:57, Mark Panen wrote:
 
 gparted sees my two HDD as /dev/sda  /dev/sdb, not in partitions.

Of course, the HDDs are sda and sdb, but you need the partition 
designations.

 I will try find out the partitions numbers of the /devs

If you can't find your way around gparted try 'fdisk -l' or 'blkid'.

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Re: Why compiling.

On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:50:02, Celejar wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not quite sure I get you - if my hypothetical router (running x86 HW,
 not like my actual routers that run OpenWRT on arm, and that don't
 have lots of extra MB to spare) needs a new kernel, I can just send over
 a distro stock one;

From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom 
kernel.

 why should my work machine kernel need to be
 appropriate for my router?

A stock kernel should work for both. IMHO, even if you do use custom 
kernels, it's probably a good idea to keep a stock kernel around for 
backup and troubleshooting.

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drive already mounted or busy ... dmsetup routine

2012-07-11 Thread John Magolske

I've been having issues with a particular hard drive, where after
a suspend-resume cycle with s2ram, it won't mount:

# mount /dev/sdb1 /media
mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media busy
# umount /media
umount: /media: not mounted

So I end up doing the following routine:

# dmsetup ls

(observe the device uuid's and input those to the remove below)

# dmsetup remove 
*-part1
# dmsetup remove *

After this I can mount/umount multiple times no problem. But after
every suspend-resume cycle I have to do that dmsetup routine again.

Could this be a hard-drive hardware issue? Or maybe something is
mis-configured? Seems to have started after a dist-upgrade a while
back. I'm able to mount other flash-drives fine without the dmsetup
routine.

TIA for any help,

John

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Re: full automated installation preseed without any network connection?

On Ma, 10 iul 12, 16:29:54, anots...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 can Debian be fully automated installed when there is no network
 connection available?

Could you please give more details about what you want to achieve? I'd 
install on a removable drive, boot the new system with it and cp -a 
everything over.

If you need to do this on several (more or less identical) machines you 
can create an image that you can just copy over.

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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

On Mi, 11 iul 12, 06:08:15, Darren Baginski wrote:
 
 I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such functionality should be intergrated
 in to the Debian installer.
 My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?  

debian-boot is the mailing list dedicated to developing the Debian 
Installer.

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Re: wheezy backports

On Mi, 11 iul 12, 12:46:54, lina wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I need install fglrx and xorg from wheezy backports,
 
 are there some links can be used to feed the sources.list?

http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/

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Re: Why compiling.

2012-07-11 Thread Dom


On 11/07/12 01:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:

Howdy,

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:


why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
have been using it on different platform in CLI mode. but no need of
compiling in this time window.


The kernel provided when you install Linux, Debian included, has to work
on nearly every system out there so it includes drivers for nearly piece
of hardware that can be installed in a PC.

I always compile a kernel with only the hardware I have in my computer.
This gives me a smaller memory footprint and a smaller disk footprint.

It's all a matter of what you want.


Those smaller footprints usually aren't needed for modern computers,
since we've usually got more than enough disc space and RAM. OTOH we
perhaps change some hardware from time to time and then we need
different modules. Perhaps a visitor has some hardware, that should work
on our computers. It's a dangerous balancing act. I wouldn't remove too
much.


The key word there is usually...

I run stock kernels on all my newer systems, but I have some old ones 
which it just won't work with. Therefore I compile my own. It's 
customised for those particular systems, so doesn't need to be portable.


I always keep the previous known working version of a kernel on the 
system until I'm certain that the newly compiled one is stable, and if a 
system becomes unbootable I can usually recover by removing the hard 
disk and connecting it to a working system and fixing whatever the 
problem was.


I realise that my situation is quite different to the average user with 
their 256GB/6GHz/128 bit systems ;-)

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Re: syslog filter

2012-07-11 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan

Thanks bro. it worked :)

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
 On 10.07.2012 16:24, Michael Biebl wrote:

 With rsyslog you have powerful filtering capabilities and you can
 basically match on any part of the syslog message and drop it with the
 ~ operator.

 http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_conf_filter.html

 http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/property_replacer.html → Available
 Properties lists the properties you can match against.


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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Tom H

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net wrote:
 On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:

 Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
 particular.
 While installing I faced some issues.
 Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
 BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
 while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
 One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
 After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
 `grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
 you have to run
 `modprobe efivars`
 `efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
 and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

 I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such
 functionality should be intergrated
 in to the Debian installer.
 My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?

 There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.

Please bottom-post.

That discussion isn't about UEFI but about UEFI's Secure Boot feature.


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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Tom H

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Darren Baginski kick...@yandex.com wrote:

 Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more 
 particular.
 While installing I faced some issues.
 Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is BIOS 
 or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
 while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
 One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
 After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
 `grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
 you have to run
 `modprobe efivars`
 `efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
 and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

 I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such 
 functionality should be intergrated
 in to the Debian installer.
 My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?

For the archives: it's grub-efi and grub-efi-amd64 (not -uefi).

As Andrei pointed out, you might want to ask on debian-boot. I'd add
that you might want to ask whether they could use the Ubuntu
grub-installer patch that detects BIOS/UEFI and installs the
appropriate grub.


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Re: Why compiling.

2012-07-11 Thread Atıf CEYLAN

On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 19:15 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
  On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 
  This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
  need your help.
 
  why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
  compiling kernel on debian.
  what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
  have been using it on different platform in CLI mode. but no need of
  compiling in this time window.
 
  secondly i have read  that people are compiling Squid SAMBA and all
  the other packages but why. i am using KVM, squid samba etc  for
  almost more then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever
  i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
  any environment then why compiling?
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  There is little need to compile code. In fact, doing so will probably have a
  negative impact on your system's stability, especially if you use other than
  the official sources.
 
  People who prepare the individual packages or distributions are usually the
  only ones who need to compile code. However, some brave/foolhardy souls must
  have the latest code from the developer's source and compile their own. This
  is invariably a bad idea.
 
  When you leave the safety of your distribution's code repositories, you
  become responsible for managing the various inter-dependencies between
  programs and libraries. This is not a trivial task.
 
  If you need later code than is available from the official repositories,
  look for backports or, in the case of Debian, move to testing. In the
  testing repositories you get up to date code that is somewhat stable for
  non-critical work.
 
  Compiling from the official sources is a slightly different issue. For
  example, some people will compile a custom kernel from the official sources
  to do one of several things:
  - create a kernel that doesn't need an initramfs - everything is built in
  - create a smaller kernel that contains only the options they need -
  rendering it non-portable
  - creating a kernel with non-standard options for a particular situation.
 
  Other code may need similar tweaking. I once compiled a CUPS driver for a
  printer to include a bug fix I needed that hadn't made it into SID yet.
 
  However, these situations are rare. For the vast majority of people,
  compiling is something you shouldn't worry about. The package maintainers do
  a great job of getting everything to work together properly. Don't undermine
  their work.
 
 noway i am undermining their work but i have heard that people do
 compile kernels  and some time hardware vendors suggest users to
 compile their drivers from source though i couldn't get the idea of
 what they are discussing.
 
 so after reading your detailed answer things are crystal clear. i
 applicate the effort and i thank you for help.
 
 
 
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For example, my wireless card is not supported by debian wheezy standart
kernel. Also non-free package is not working. So I compile it from
source code and I change some part of the code (because some part of
code is not working with my hardware). So I must make compiling :)
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Re: wheezy backports

2012-07-11 Thread Mika Suomalainen

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Hi,

On 11.07.2012 07:46, lina wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I need install fglrx and xorg from wheezy backports,
 
 are there some links can be used to feed the sources.list?
 
 Thanks with best regards,

As far as I know, there isn't such thing as wheezy backports.

If you mean Squeeze backports, you can enable them by putting the
following lines to your sources.list:

deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports stable-backports main
contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian-backports stable-backports main
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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Jerome BENOIT




On 11/07/12 09:19, Tom H wrote:

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:

On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:


Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
`grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
you have to run
`modprobe efivars`
`efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such
functionality should be intergrated
in to the Debian installer.
My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?


There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.


Please bottom-post.

That discussion isn't about UEFI but about UEFI's Secure Boot feature.


``EFI and Secure Boot'' precisely.

Jerome






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Re: help with xserver-xorg-video-ast

2012-07-11 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 10 July 2012 19:45, Shane Johnson s...@rasmussenequipment.com wrote:

  Keith,
 That was my plan but I can't find where the autoconf file is trying to
 locate the macros at?  I located /usr/share/aclocal/xorg-macros.m4 but I
 can't find where the link is supposed to be.  Any ideas?

 Re :and now when I try to re-install is says glibc-2.13 is required when
2.14 is installed.

I would try something like

ln -s glibc-2.14 glibc-2.13

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Re: Why compiling.

2012-07-11 Thread Raffaele Morelli

2012/7/10 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com

 This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
 need your help.

 why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
 compiling kernel on debian.
 what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
 have been using it on different platform in CLI mode. but no need of
 compiling in this time window.


Sometimes compiling kernel is needed because you want to add features not
enabled in the stock kernel, some other because you want to remove features.

eg. I am used to compile a vanilla kernel in order to obtain a RT one
(vanilla sources + realtime patch
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/) doing this the
debian-way.




 secondly i have read  that people are compiling Squid SAMBA and all
 the other packages but why. i am using KVM, squid samba etc  for
 almost more then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever
 i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
 any environment then why compiling?


again, adding/removing features could be of some interest, don't know about
samba but eg. when php was not shipped with gd support compiling was needed.
just think about deb packages which do not include features not compliant
with debian free software guidelines, so again you need to compile. eg.
mapserver not shipped with ecw support because libecw is proprietary soft
(now I believe is completely dead), so you should compile ecw and then gdal
libs with ecw support enabled...



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Re: full automated installation preseed without any network connection?

2012-07-11 Thread rjc

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 07:11:13AM BST, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Ma, 10 iul 12, 16:29:54, anots...@fastmail.fm wrote:
  Dear list,
  
  can Debian be fully automated installed when there is no network
  connection available?
 
 Could you please give more details about what you want to achieve? I'd 
 install on a removable drive, boot the new system with it and cp -a 
 everything over.
 
 If you need to do this on several (more or less identical) machines you 
 can create an image that you can just copy over.

What the OP means is using Debian Installer (d-i) with preseeding.

I personally use it for fully automated install over the network but
yes, you can use d-i with preseeding for off-line installation - think
CD/DVD or USB memory stick with a local .deb repository.

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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Tom H

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net wrote:
 On 11/07/12 09:19, Tom H wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net
 wrote:
 On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:

 Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
 particular.
 While installing I faced some issues.
 Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
 BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
 while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
 One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
 After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
 `grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
 you have to run
 `modprobe efivars`
 `efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
 and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

 I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive
 such
 functionality should be intergrated
 in to the Debian installer.
 My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?

 There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.

 Please bottom-post.

 That discussion isn't about UEFI but about UEFI's Secure Boot feature.

 ``EFI and Secure Boot'' precisely.

It's also about Debian... :(


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Re: Slowness problem

2012-07-11 Thread Merciadri Luca

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Hi,

I'm writing from my brand new installation now. I actually installed
Debian Squeeze, together with a new kernel (2.6.32-5-686).

The problem which was majoritarly present when dealing with e.g. HD
videos was coming from the fact that I was missing the nvidia-libvdpau1
package on the preceding installation (i.e. I did not install it). The
problem was also present here (i.e. brand new install) before installing this 
package.

After installing it, everything related to HD playing goes quite well. Now, for 
the
intermittent slowness problems that I had with the previous (old, lenny)
installation, I still can't explain them (anyway, they are only past).

I've however understood why HD videos were read that slowly. Thanks to all!


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Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)

Hello everyone,

I'm planning to get a new computer, and the one I really like is an
All-in-one from Lenovo with *ATI HD 6450 *graphics. Does anyone have
experience with that? I made a huge mistake last time by getting an nVidia
Optimus card, it turned out that neither Linux nor many games work properly
with it (nVidia's fault for not releasing proper drivers).  I tried a lot
of stuff including bumblebee etc (which doesn't work but I botched the
uninstall and it still lives on my computer)

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Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 17:30 +0530, aditya menon wrote:
  All-in-one from Lenovo with ATI

I bought a mobo with an integrated ATI that as separated card has got
proprietary driver support, but the integrated thingy only worked with
the FLOSS driver, without 3D acceleration. The manual does call it
Integrated ATI Radeon X 1250-based graphics, the keyword seems to be
based. I bought a NVidia card for the mobo.

I suspect that for many needs Intel graphics will work best with Linux,
but I don't know people playing games, perhaps Intel graphics don't fit
to gamer's needs.

For NVidia cards I only heard about issues with the new proprietary
drivers, but older drivers work like a charm. Since I'm a kernel-rt
user, there's a serous license issue. Nouveau (FLOSS) is a PITA for many
needs and many tasks and nv (FLOSS) is dropped, just a few distros still
ship with the nv driver. The proprietary driver is hard to use with a
kernel-rt and if it should work, than you'll offend the licenses.

I dunno if there are licenses issues for ATI too, there shouldn't be
such issues for Intel drivers.

Cheers,
Ralf

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Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)

Hi Ralf,

Sorry about the formatting, I'll keep it plain from now on =)

Thank you for your detailed reply. The main reason I want Graphics card
support on Linux is that I want a high resolution to work with. The
integrated card offers atrocious support for resolution (only 800x600).

So the summary would be that there are open source drivers available, they
do work, but I may be violating licences - am I right?

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

 On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 17:30 +0530, aditya menon wrote:
   All-in-one from Lenovo with ATI

 I bought a mobo with an integrated ATI that as separated card has got
 proprietary driver support, but the integrated thingy only worked with
 the FLOSS driver, without 3D acceleration. The manual does call it
 Integrated ATI Radeon X 1250-based graphics, the keyword seems to be
 based. I bought a NVidia card for the mobo.

 I suspect that for many needs Intel graphics will work best with Linux,
 but I don't know people playing games, perhaps Intel graphics don't fit
 to gamer's needs.

 For NVidia cards I only heard about issues with the new proprietary
 drivers, but older drivers work like a charm. Since I'm a kernel-rt
 user, there's a serous license issue. Nouveau (FLOSS) is a PITA for many
 needs and many tasks and nv (FLOSS) is dropped, just a few distros still
 ship with the nv driver. The proprietary driver is hard to use with a
 kernel-rt and if it should work, than you'll offend the licenses.

 I dunno if there are licenses issues for ATI too, there shouldn't be
 such issues for Intel drivers.

 Cheers,
 Ralf

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Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 18:04 +0530, aditya menon wrote:

 So the summary would be that there are open source drivers available,
 they do work, but I may be violating licences - am I right?

You aren't. Pardon for my broken English. Open source drivers don't
violate any license. A combination of open source licensed software and
proprietary drivers sometimes does offend each others license, but not
always.

There are open source drivers. You should search the web, if the card
you wish to use is supported. The open source drivers don't support or
have a limited support of 3D acceleration, but usually all resolutions
do work. If a card isn't supported, than usually the open source vesa
driver does work without 3D acceleration and only with a limited
resolution, take a look at (extended) vesa standards.

Hth,
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Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)

 If a card isn't supported, than usually the open source vesa
 driver does work without 3D acceleration and only with a limited
 resolution, take a look at (extended) vesa standards.
  Oops, (extended) VGA standards



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Re: Why compiling.


On 10/07/12 11:28 PM, Celejar wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com  wrote:


On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com   wrote:

...


Having a portable kernel is a lot simpler than trying to rescue a
non-bootable machine from a live CD.

True - but then I can just grab a distro stock kernel before I swap
HDDs.


You still need to go through the aggravation of booting from a live CD
then setting up a chroot environment just to get around the fact that
you compiled a non-portable kernel. You wouldn't have to do any of that
if you had just stuck with the stock kernel.

I must have misunderstood what you meant. If machine A is non-bootable,
then I need to recover using resources from machine B. But even if
machine B generally runs my custom kernel, before I pull its HDD and
move it to A, I can just add a stock kernel to B. Can you explain what
you mean here?
The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware change 
is capable of doing that with a custom kernel. I'm not talking about 
using a machine with a custom kernel to rescue another machine, I'm 
talking about the much greater chance that a machine with a custom 
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Okay, thanks again... I'll research more again if the card is supported
(and whether I can get extended VGA standards) :)

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  If a card isn't supported, than usually the open source vesa
  driver does work without 3D acceleration and only with a limited
  resolution, take a look at (extended) vesa standards.
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Re: Installing a new HDD and mounting others


On 10/07/12 11:27 PM, Mark Panen wrote:

On 10/07/2012 23:36, Gary Dale wrote:

On 09/07/12 05:12 PM, Mark Panen wrote:

On 09/07/2012 20:02, Gary Dale wrote:

On 09/07/12 01:47 PM, Mark Panen wrote:

Hi,

I have followed this except to replace ext3 with ext4:

http://linux.justinhartman.com/Installing_a_second_hard_drive

I installed a new HDD and installed Squeeze on it.

When i open My Computer in Gnome i can see and mount the other two
HDD's.

But i cannot get the /etc/fstab entry right, on boot i get fsck
errors on the other two HDD's.

Mount them with:

mount -t ext4 /dev/hdc1 /new-disk as an example works once the system
is up.

but the /etc/fstab example does not when i reboot.

Is it perhaps that i have the boot flag entry on the other two HDD's?

Can you post the lines from your /etc/fstab referring to the two 
disks?





#/dev/sda   /mnt/store9ext4   
defaults,errors=remount-ro0   0
#/dev/sdb   /mnt/store3ext4noatime,defaults
0   0



1) if these your lines, they are commented out so they will be ignored.
2) if the actual lines don't include the #, you need the partition 
number and not just the drive device (i.e. /dev/sda should probably 
be something like /dev/sda1)
3) the /dev/sda line includes errors=remount-ro, which tells the 
system to remount it read-only if errors are detected, but the last 
0 tells the system to not check the partition. The final 0 should 
be 2 for any non-root partition (you want it checked after the / 
partition, otherwise it can't be mounted).

4) do the directories /mnt/store3 and /mnt/store9 exist?
5) are the device letters correct? In your original e-mail you 
referred to /dev/hdc1, not /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. The device 
designation doesn't change between the command line and /etc/fstab. 
They should be the same in both cases.





gparted sees my two HDD as /dev/sda  /dev/sdb, not in partitions. I 
will try find out the partitions numbers of the /devs

gparted also shows the partitions. You mount partitions, not disk drives.



I have commented out the lines as squeeze fails to boot with these 
lines in fstab.

I'm not surprised



directories /mnt/store3 and /mnt/store9 exist.

Good.



I still don't understand when i go to places and click on the computer 
icon it sees all the HDD's and i can mount them?


It doesn't show the drives. It shows the partitions. The difference 
between /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 is important.



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Re: Installing a new HDD and mounting others


On 10/07/12 10:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:47:31 +0200, Mark Panen wrote:


I have followed this except to replace ext3 with ext4:

http://linux.justinhartman.com/Installing_a_second_hard_drive

I installed a new HDD and installed Squeeze on it.

When i open My Computer in Gnome i can see and mount the other two
HDD's.

But i cannot get the /etc/fstab entry right, on boot i get fsck errors
on the other two HDD's.

Fsck? Are you sure? :-?

Those errors can be important, can you post them?
This is expected. fsck /dev/sda will give an error since it can't find a 
file system.





Mount them with:

mount -t ext4 /dev/hdc1 /new-disk as an example works once the system is
up.

but the /etc/fstab example does not when i reboot.

Is it perhaps that i have the boot flag entry on the other two HDD's?

Unless you are using an old kernel (lenny or ealier releases) I would
mount the partitions by their uuid (or id/label/path), avoid using the
old naming system (/dev/sda1...) to ensure you are calling the right
device and using uuid will be the best option for this.

You can get the partitions uuid by:

ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/

Then adjust the /etc/fstab entry accordingly and verify the mount point
is already set.

Greetings,
Reasonable advice normally, but first I'd try to understand /etc/fstab. 
This seems to be his problem. He's put in entries without understanding 
what they mean. Replacing a device name with a UUID is optional and can 
be done easily once he's got his /etc/fstab working properly.



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Re: Squeeze, MySQL and hosts.allow and hosts.deny ignored

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:07 +0200, Zdenek Herman wrote:

 On 10/07/12 17:29, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Ah, how curious... It seems to be documented here:

 4.2.2. Connecting to the MySQL Server
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/connecting.html

(...)


 Camaleón is correct.

 When you are logged into mysql, you can enter the status command and
 it will show how you are connected.

 Connect via -h localhost:

(...)

 Connect via -h 127.0.0.1:

(...)

 Connection:127.0.0.1 via TCP/IP ...
 TCP port:3306
 ...

 Hope that clears it up a bit.

 It might be possible to disable the socket connection in the MySQL
 config, but I haven't looked into that.


 Ok  - many thanks guys for reply
 This explain first part of problem - my fault sorry. I tried set in my
 hosts.allow
 mysqld: 127.0.0.1 \
  : spawn ( echo $(date '+%%d.%%m.%%y %%T') access ALLOWED from %u@%h [%a] 
  /var/log/tcp_wrapper/%d.log )  
 This allow connect from localhost - its ok. But why when connect from 
 remote machine or 127.0.0.1 nothing in log ? With sshd work same command 
 great.

I would rather use the IP of the machine where MySQL runs (192.168.1.1) 
instead the loopback device (127.0.0.1) and not only for hosts.allow/
deny but also for the running MySQL daemon if you want to be accessible 
from clients in your local network.

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Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)


On 11/07/12 09:07 AM, aditya menon wrote:
Okay, thanks again... I'll research more again if the card is 
supported (and whether I can get extended VGA standards) :)


AMD/ATI make proprietary drivers for their cards. However for many 
cards, the open source drivers work as well or better. The radeonhd 
driver is part of X.org.


By coincidence, I've just also purchased a HD 6450 card since the price 
was right. Got it at Canada Computers for $19.99 (after mail-in rebate) 
yesterday. It's a step up from the integrated HD 3300 on my motherboard.


To learn how to install the proprietary drivers go to 
http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary/#Squeeze.


Note that you can also install from AMD/ATI's installer but this is 
trickier and may not work with Squeeze. Using the Debian/Squeeze 
sources, you can usually get it working without too much effort.





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Re: Why compiling.

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:04 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
 The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware change 
 is capable of doing that with a custom kernel.

+1

I almost exclusively use self-build kernels only, because I need them,
but I don't drop too much hardware support, usually I try to use as much
of the config of a distro's default kernel as possible. As somebody
already mentioned, even on machines where RAM is an issue, there's no
need to load all modules. Since compiling a kernel does take a long
time, I would like to get rid of stuff I never ever will need, but to
get rid of it IMO is too time consuming itself.

My way is to copy a distro's kernel config, to patch my kernel, choose
my settings (add what is needed and what must be removed) and to run
make oldconfig.

On disk the needed space can become an issue, when collecting many,
many, many kernels, but one or a few kernels shouldn't be an issue.


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Re: Installing a new HDD and mounting others

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:13:13 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:

 On 10/07/12 10:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:47:31 +0200, Mark Panen wrote:

(...)

 But i cannot get the /etc/fstab entry right, on boot i get fsck errors
 on the other two HDD's.
 Fsck? Are you sure? :-?

 Those errors can be important, can you post them?

 This is expected. fsck /dev/sda will give an error since it can't find a
 file system.

I can't tell (my crystal ball is out of range) so I prefer to be sure 
about the nature of the errors the OP is experiencing.

 Mount them with:

 mount -t ext4 /dev/hdc1 /new-disk as an example works once the system
 is up.

 but the /etc/fstab example does not when i reboot.

 Is it perhaps that i have the boot flag entry on the other two HDD's?

 Unless you are using an old kernel (lenny or ealier releases) I would
 mount the partitions by their uuid (or id/label/path), avoid using
 the old naming system (/dev/sda1...) to ensure you are calling the
 right device and using uuid will be the best option for this.

 You can get the partitions uuid by:

 ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/

 Then adjust the /etc/fstab entry accordingly and verify the mount
 point is already set.

 Reasonable advice normally, but first I'd try to understand /etc/fstab.

Understanding /etc/fstab also involves using the proper device naming.

 This seems to be his problem. He's put in entries without understanding
 what they mean. Replacing a device name with a UUID is optional and can
 be done easily once he's got his /etc/fstab working properly.

When using a modern kernel that's is more than optional but highly 
recommended or you can end up with an unbootable system or messed mount 
points.

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Re: Installing a new HDD and mounting others


On 11/07/12 09:47 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:13:13 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:


On 10/07/12 10:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:47:31 +0200, Mark Panen wrote:

(...)


But i cannot get the /etc/fstab entry right, on boot i get fsck errors
on the other two HDD's.

Fsck? Are you sure? :-?

Those errors can be important, can you post them?

This is expected. fsck /dev/sda will give an error since it can't find a
file system.

I can't tell (my crystal ball is out of range) so I prefer to be sure
about the nature of the errors the OP is experiencing.
Occam's razor. The lines in his /etc/fstab will create fsck errors on a 
normal system. No need to hunt for other problems yet.





Mount them with:

mount -t ext4 /dev/hdc1 /new-disk as an example works once the system
is up.

but the /etc/fstab example does not when i reboot.

Is it perhaps that i have the boot flag entry on the other two HDD's?

Unless you are using an old kernel (lenny or ealier releases) I would
mount the partitions by their uuid (or id/label/path), avoid using
the old naming system (/dev/sda1...) to ensure you are calling the
right device and using uuid will be the best option for this.

You can get the partitions uuid by:

ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/

Then adjust the /etc/fstab entry accordingly and verify the mount
point is already set.


Reasonable advice normally, but first I'd try to understand /etc/fstab.

Understanding /etc/fstab also involves using the proper device naming.


This seems to be his problem. He's put in entries without understanding
what they mean. Replacing a device name with a UUID is optional and can
be done easily once he's got his /etc/fstab working properly.

When using a modern kernel that's is more than optional but highly
recommended or you can end up with an unbootable system or messed mount
points.

Greetings,

Only if you are switching around HDs. You can also run into the opposite 
problem when changing drives and the UUID changes but the device name 
doesn't.



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Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:30:05 +0530, aditya menon wrote:

I'm planning to get a new computer, and the one I really like is an
All-in-one from Lenovo with *ATI HD 6450 *graphics. Does anyone have
experience with that? I made a huge mistake last time by getting an
nVidia Optimus card, it turned out that neither Linux nor many games
work properly with it (nVidia's fault for not releasing proper drivers).
I tried a lot of stuff including bumblebee etc (which doesn't work but
I botched the uninstall and it still lives on my computer)

I want to mitigate that risk this time... please help? Thanks!

I find the current graphics card market very unpleasant for linux users:

1/ Intel chipsets are usually well supported from the open source driver
but their hardware is (or can be, depending on the user needings) a bit
lacking.

2/ nVidia has a good deal between their hardware (apart from their
bambidubi thingy, of course) and driver but you probably end up using
the closed source one which is very good but non free.

3/ ATI... well, ATI has (or should have by now) a good open source driver
(radeon) and also powerful VGA cards/chipsets but you'd first ensure the
chipset you are planning to buy is supported within the kernel version
you planning to install.

Let's see. ATI HD 6450 pertains to their northern island (caicos)¹
series and looking into the Xorg card matrix², it seems this chipset
is supported since kernel 2.6.38 (remember that Squeeze has an older
kernel 2.6.32 but there's still the backported one 3.2.x).

¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_series
²http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#Feature_Matrix_for_Free_Radeon_Drivers

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Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)

Thank you, *everyone*, for the very helpful and detailed replies!

I am much more confident of that chip now. Looks like it's a Buy ;D

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:30:05 +0530, aditya menon wrote:

I want to mitigate that risk this time... please help? Thanks!

I find the current graphics card market very unpleasant for linux users:

1/ Intel chipsets are usually well supported from the open source driver
but their hardware is (or can be, depending on the user needings) a bit
lacking.

2/ nVidia has a good deal between their hardware (apart from their
bambidubi thingy, of course) and driver but you probably end up using
the closed source one which is very good but non free.

¹
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_series
²
http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#Feature_Matrix_for_Free_Radeon_Drivers

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Re: Installing a new HDD and mounting others

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:58:20 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:

 On 11/07/12 09:47 AM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 This is expected. fsck /dev/sda will give an error since it can't find
 a file system.
 I can't tell (my crystal ball is out of range) so I prefer to be sure
 about the nature of the errors the OP is experiencing.

 Occam's razor. The lines in his /etc/fstab will create fsck errors on a
 normal system. No need to hunt for other problems yet.

I'm not completely sure about that assertion. I would not expect a fsck 
for a volume that is misplaced in the fstab.

(...)

 This seems to be his problem. He's put in entries without
 understanding what they mean. Replacing a device name with a UUID is
 optional and can be done easily once he's got his /etc/fstab working
 properly.

 When using a modern kernel that's is more than optional but highly
 recommended or you can end up with an unbootable system or messed mount
 points.

 Only if you are switching around HDs. 

No, it can happen arbitrarily on every boot.

 You can also run into the opposite problem when changing drives and the
 UUID changes but the device name doesn't.

UUID is used precisely to avoid such scenario (the UUID could change only 
if you are reinstalling the system or formatting the drive).

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Re: wheezy backports

2012-07-11 Thread lina

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Ezequiel ezequielandr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, there is a way to install fglrx in wheezy, but you wil need to downgrade
 X to a previous version.
 I found a solution out there and posted it here.

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00647.html

Finally ... after hours back to before.
Thanks for the link, it's very helpful.

Best regards,


 regards
 Zeke

 2012/7/11 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 I need install fglrx and xorg from wheezy backports,

 are there some links can be used to feed the sources.list?

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Re: drive already mounted or busy ... dmsetup routine

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:09:59 -0700, John Magolske wrote:

 I've been having issues with a particular hard drive, where after a
 suspend-resume cycle with s2ram, it won't mount:
 
 # mount /dev/sdb1 /media
 mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media busy 
 # umount /media
 umount: /media: not mounted

I wouldn't use /media as mount point but an isolate mount point and 
better yet static if the hard drive is to be used every day.
 
 So I end up doing the following routine:
 
 # dmsetup ls
 
 (observe the device uuid's and input those to the remove below)
 
 # dmsetup remove
 *-part1 #
 dmsetup remove
 *
 
 After this I can mount/umount multiple times no problem. But after every
 suspend-resume cycle I have to do that dmsetup routine again.

Is the hard drive partition being used/recognized as as device mapper 
volume? :-?

 Could this be a hard-drive hardware issue? Or maybe something is
 mis-configured? Seems to have started after a dist-upgrade a while back.
 I'm able to mount other flash-drives fine without the dmsetup routine.

These errors are commom when resuming from suspension or even 
hibernation. What you can do is unmounting the USB devices before 
entering into suspension mode and mount them again after system comes to 
life.

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Re: Installing a new HDD and mounting others

2012-07-11 Thread Mark Panen


On 11/07/2012 16:21, Camaleón wrote:

UUID is used precisely to avoid such scenario (the UUID could change only
if you are reinstalling the system or formatting the drive).
The original URL i posted on how to add an additional HDD, in my 
original post, had no UUID mentioned, just a simple old fashioned 2008 
/etc/fstab entry.


I will play around with UUID's  and see what happens.

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Debian quiet boot

2012-07-11 Thread Mostafa Hashemi

hi friends
i want to hide the messages shown while Debian boots up. i dont want to use
boot splash, i want the user see nothing at all and the user dont have the
ability to see what are being shown while Debian boots up ...
what should i do ? please help im new to Debian ...
im using Debian 6 amd64

thanks ...

Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote:

(please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) )

 Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI
 propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to downgrade
 Xserver to a version prior to 1.12.
 Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new XOrg.

(...)

In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to 
install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in this 
Debian's forum thread):

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494

Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library) would 
be better, though...

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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)


On 11/07/12 10:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote:

(please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) )


Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI
propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to downgrade
Xserver to a version prior to 1.12.
Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new XOrg.

(...)

In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to
install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in this
Debian's forum thread):

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494

Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library) would
be better, though...

Greetings,

The problem with using AMD's drivers is that they aren't always current 
with the latest X.org. That's probably why there is no fglrx-driver in 
the current Wheezy repositories. Moreover, the driver will likely break 
later as Wheezy evolves.


I've been down this route myself. Eventually I just settled on the open 
source drivers. They work well and are kept updated. The proprietary 
drivers are just too much work when running debian/testing.



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Re: Debian quiet boot

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:02:24 +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:

 hi friends

Hi! (but please, don't post using html, thanks)

 i want to hide the messages shown while Debian boots up. i dont want to
 use boot splash, i want the user see nothing at all and the user dont
 have the ability to see what are being shown while Debian boots up ...
 what should i do ? please help im new to Debian ... im using Debian 6
 amd64

You can use a black splash image but pressing Esc will still showing 
the booting messages.

If you want to completely disable these messages I think there's a kernel 
option you can toggle on/off but, would you prefer to recompile the 
kernel just for this? :-?

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Test Post

2012-07-11 Thread David Baron

To see if proper titles and headers are now coming through (one can always 
hope).


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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

2012-07-11 Thread lina

Today I tried the sid one fglrx-driver and the xserver-xorg* in wheezy box.

It's reported segmental fault.

Fixed by following the advice downgrading the xserver-xorg, at the
same time, the fglrx-driver is from wheezy-backports.
so it came as old days.


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Re: ATI Propietary driver install in Debian Wheezy (Xorg downgrade to a working previous version)

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:09:49 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:

 On 11/07/12 10:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 05:56:50 -0300, Ezequiel wrote:

 (please, keep html turned off, thanks :-) )

 Hi all: Searching in the Internet I've found a way to make ATI
 propietary driver work under Wheezy. Of course, it implies to
 downgrade Xserver to a version prior to 1.12.
 Now I can wait fglrx 12-5 (wich is supposed to work under the new
 XOrg.
 (...)

 In the Spanish mailing list, a user posted an alternative method to
 install the latest flgrx package in Wheezy (instructions detailed in
 this Debian's forum thread):

 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=80708#p440494

 Not sure what solution (downgrading packages or patching a library)
 would be better, though...


 The problem with using AMD's drivers is that they aren't always current
 with the latest X.org. That's probably why there is no fglrx-driver in
 the current Wheezy repositories. Moreover, the driver will likely break
 later as Wheezy evolves.

That's the usual thing to happen and not only for ATI but also nvidia 
closed source drivers. It shouldn't be a problem if these drivers were 
ready for the xorg version in place. OTOH, when using a rolling release 
(as can be testing when not freezed) recompiling the closed source 
driver installed from upstream sources is a must when a new kernel is 
installed.

 I've been down this route myself. Eventually I just settled on the open
 source drivers. They work well and are kept updated. The proprietary
 drivers are just too much work when running debian/testing.

IIRC, the open source driver still has some problems with powersaving.

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Re: Debian quiet boot

2012-07-11 Thread Darac Marjal

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:14:14PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:02:24 +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
 
  hi friends
 
 Hi! (but please, don't post using html, thanks)
 
  i want to hide the messages shown while Debian boots up. i dont want to
  use boot splash, i want the user see nothing at all and the user dont
  have the ability to see what are being shown while Debian boots up ...
  what should i do ? please help im new to Debian ... im using Debian 6
  amd64
 
 You can use a black splash image but pressing Esc will still showing 
 the booting messages.
 
 If you want to completely disable these messages I think there's a kernel 
 option you can toggle on/off but, would you prefer to recompile the 
 kernel just for this? :-?

Adding quiet nosplash to the kernel command line should remove MOST of
the messages.



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Re: Debian quiet boot

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:19:34 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:14:14PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:02:24 +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
 
  hi friends
 
 Hi! (but please, don't post using html, thanks)
 
  i want to hide the messages shown while Debian boots up. i dont want
  to use boot splash, i want the user see nothing at all and the user
  dont have the ability to see what are being shown while Debian boots
  up ... what should i do ? please help im new to Debian ... im using
  Debian 6 amd64
 
 You can use a black splash image but pressing Esc will still showing
 the booting messages.
 
 If you want to completely disable these messages I think there's a
 kernel option you can toggle on/off but, would you prefer to recompile
 the kernel just for this? :-?
 
 Adding quiet nosplash to the kernel command line should remove MOST of
 the messages.

Yes, but not all of them and my wild guess is that the OP wanted 
none :-)

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CD image doesn't exist for download?

2012-07-11 Thread Kirsten Milligan

After several attempts over several years, I haven't yet had complete 
success installing Linux.  I'm hungry to learn, but am very poor at 
computerspeak, so please be gentle.


I'm trying again.  I know, some steps would be removed from the process if 
I'd buy disks, but I'd really like to master this.


I navigated to http://atterer.org/jigdo/ from debian.org, and am trying to 
follow the instructions on Atterer's page.  I'm concerned because near the 
top of the page is the following:


'This software is now in maintenance mode, development has stopped. 
Unfortunately, this means that various parts (in particular the GUI download 
tool) will remain unfinished,'


with a note above saying that the last update was on 2010-9-23.  I wouldn't 
think debian.org would send me to the page, if the page were no longer 
useful, so I've been plowing ahead.


I have downloaded jigdo-lite 
(http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2009-08/jigdo/jigdo-win-0.7.2.zip) 
(I'm using Windows XP), and I believe I've successfully got a command line 
interface.  (I have a black window with a bunch of text that has 
proliferated with previous unsuccessful attempts (due to typos and the like) 
to access Debian's 6.0.5 CD-1 image.)  At the jigdo prompt, I have typed 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-6.0.5-i386-CD-1.jigdo, 
which link location I copied from the list at 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/i386/jigdo-cd/.


What seem most pertinent to me, of the things jigdo is telling me, are the 
parts that say, 301 Moved Permanently, followed by a URL, then a 
Resolving, followed by a Connecting, and a connected, then 404 Not 
Found, and File 'debian-6.0.5-i386-CD-1.jigdo' does not exist!


I decided to return to the jigdo window, before sending this, to try again, 
this time with the CD-1 template; maybe I'd garner more information about my 
trouble that way.  Now I'm even more confused, because I can't get a jidgo 
prompt.  There's just a blinking cursor at the left edge, with stuff above 
that looks like what I've been entering, but which seems to bleed off the 
right edge, though there is no scroll bar at the bottom of the window, and 
though I cannot expand the window horizontally (double-headed arrow appears, 
but doesn't work).  Nothing I type makes a difference to the window; the 
cursor just keeps blinking.  I tried making the window full-page, but it 
looks just the same, only bigger.


Is it clear, from what I've described, what I've done to hang up jigdo, and 
why I can't access the CD image for download?  Can anyone help me make this 
work?


Specifically, is there a way to get back to a jigdo prompt, other than 
uninstalling and reinstalling jidgo?  And is that CD image really available 
for download?  And, if so, what do I need to do differently in order to 
download it?


Thanks very much for your attention.

Kirsten 



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Re: Test Post

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 18:13 +0300, David Baron wrote:
 To see if proper titles and headers are now coming through (one can always 
 hope).

What should be bad David? The mail and the mail's source are ok here. :)
Ralf


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Re: Debian quiet boot

2012-07-11 Thread Mostafa Hashemi

thank you my friends
where should i add quiet nosplash exactly ?
any other ways 

thanks agian ... :D

Re: CD image doesn't exist for download?

2012-07-11 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 11 July 2012 16:36, Kirsten Milligan kirs...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 After several attempts over several years, I haven't yet had complete
 success installing Linux.  I'm hungry to learn, but am very poor at
 computerspeak, so please be gentle.

 I'm trying again.  I know, some steps would be removed from the process if
 I'd buy disks, but I'd really like to master this.
 [.]
 Thanks very much for your attention.


Personally I recommend that you just download a (standard) CD-1 image from
the Debian site as you say you are not experienced with Linux.

It will make installation easier for you,  then once that is up  running,
start learning about Linux  Debian.

You will get plenty of encouragement from mailing lists  forums to help
you learn your new system, but until you have a working system of your own,
it will be difficult to explain things.

Another point : Do you want to replace your Win XP, or do you want to have
both (dual booting) on your computer.


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Re: CD image doesn't exist for download?

Welcome Kirsten,

is there a reason for you not to download the CD image by using
InternetExplorer, Firefox or any other browser?

http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: CD image doesn't exist for download?

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 17:41 +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:
 Do you want to replace your Win XP, or do you want to have both (dual
 booting) on your computer.

We aren't at this point ;). IMO everybody should get rid of Windows, if
possible, but in this case I recommend to keep XP, for emergency cases,
e.g. a broken Linux.

2 Cents,
Ralf


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Re: Debian quiet boot

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:49:12 +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:

(remember to send in plain text...)

 thank you my friends
 where should i add quiet nosplash exactly ? any other ways 

In Wheezy, that's the default, I guess. 

It can be set from /etc/default/grub file, variable 
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet, not sure for squeeze, though.

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Re: full automated installation preseed without any network connection?

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:29:54 -0700, anotst01 wrote:

 can Debian be fully automated installed when there is no network
 connection available?

Yes, but depending on the installation media (netiso, CD or DVD) the 
amount of packages you can install will vary.

 Did you actually test it? If so, can share your preseed.cfg please?

Nope, sorry. Preseeding is still something in my to-do list :-) but a 
sample template can be found here:

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/tmp/en.amd64/apb.html

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Re: Debian quiet boot

On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:49 +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
 thank you my friends
 where should i add quiet nosplash exactly ?
 any other ways 
 
 
 thanks agian ... :D

Grub2 or Grub Legacy?


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Re: Debian quiet boot