Re: Neteja d'spam maig del 2014
El 03/06/14 16:31, Adrià ha escrit: Com que ja estem al juny, ja es poden processar tots els correus brossa del maig de 2014. El meu granet de sorra, fet. Gràcies per la vostra ajuda!!! El sentiment és recíproc. robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392bf0a.3010...@gmail.com
nouvelles failles openssl
Bonjour Sid semble avoir corrigé les failles. Quant à Jessie, il faut (bizarrement) attendre... Il paraît que Les versions 0.9.8.za, 1.0.0m et 1.0.1h d'OpenSSL corrigent la faille https://linuxfr.org/users/elyotna/journaux/openssl-une-nouvelle-faille-decouverte-permet-une-attaque-de-l-homme-du-milieu https://linuxfr.org/news/nouvelle-faille-importante-dans-gnutls -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392d6d0.5060...@gmail.com
[IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Bonjour à toutes et à tous, suite à une attaque, j'ai restreint les accès sur le port 80 de mon serveur avec Iptables : === ~# iptables -L INPUT -nvx Chain INPUT (policy DROP 7178 packets, 2268524 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 9 774 DROP tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/0XXX.XXX.XXX tcp dpt:80 STRING match GET /w00tw00t.at. ALGO name bm TO 70 40 9636 DROP tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 XXX.XXX.XXX tcp dpt:80 STRING match Host: XXX.XXX.XXX ALGO name bm TO 600 93193 37333670 ACCEPT all -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0state RELATED,ESTABLISHED 7530 566937 ACCEPT all -- lo * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 33026804 ACCEPT icmp -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 00 ACCEPT all -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0state RELATED,ESTABLISHED 4480 234832tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0tcp dpt:80flags: 0x02/0x02 recent: SET name: web side: source 13 780 DROP tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0tcp dpt:80flags: 0x02/0x02 recent: UPDATE seconds: 5 hit_count: 10 name: web side: source 38 1992 DROP tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0tcp dpt:80flags: 0x02/0x02 limit: above 3/sec burst 7 mode srcip srcmask 28 4392 230136 ACCEPT tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0tcp dpt:80flags: 0x02/0x02 limit: avg 7/sec burst 12 37 1924 DROP tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0tcp dpt:80flags: 0x02/0x02 === Y a-t-il un moyen de lister les paquets rejetés pour vérifier que mes règles sont conformes à ce que je souhaitais faire ? D'autant plus que le serveur virtuel que j'utilise n'est pas Apache, mais NginX. J'ai peur que les match string soient un peu différentes… Je me suis servi de ressources sur le Web. Je peux vous les communiquer en cas de besoin. D'avance, merci pour vos lumières… Ph. Gras
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Le Samedi 7 Juin 2014 11:22 CEST, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit: Bonjour à toutes et à tous, suite à une attaque, j'ai restreint les accès sur le port 80 de mon serveur avec Iptables : === ~# iptables -L INPUT -nvx Chain INPUT (policy DROP 7178 packets, 2268524 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out === Y a-t-il un moyen de lister les paquets rejetés pour vérifier que mes règles sont conformes à ce que je souhaitais faire ? Je pense que tu peux utiliser LOG avant DROP. Ca ira dans la log système -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7fd0-5392f600-3-46a5ca00@89467399
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Bonjour, Le samedi 07 juin 2014, Philippe Gras a écrit... Y a-t-il un moyen de lister les paquets rejetés pour vérifier que mes règles sont conformes à ce que je souhaitais faire ? Tu peux loger les paquets qui correspondent à une règle. Il suffit de mettre la règle « -j LOG » juste avant la règle qui jette, avec une option --log-prefix parlante pour toi. Quand tu es bon sur la règle, tu vires le logging. -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607111203.GA7830@espinasse
problème compilation grass 6.4.3
Bonjour,
J'essaie de compiler grass 6.4.3 sur une LMDE 64 bits. Mais ça échoue. Je
me suis dit que ça venait peut-être de la LMDE. J'ai donc essayé de le faire
sur une debian testing mais ça échoue également.
Il fait pas mal de chose j'ai même l'impression que l'on ne doit pas être
loin de la fin mais ça finit sur :
Copying config.status to config.status.x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
GRASS is now configured for: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Source directory:/tmp/grass-6.4.3
Build directory: /tmp/grass-6.4.3
Installation directory: ${prefix}/grass64
Startup script in directory: ${exec_prefix}/bin
C compiler: gcc -g -O2 -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fPIE
-fstack-protector --param ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wformat
-Wformat-security -Werror=format-security -Wno-error=format-security -Wall -O
C++ compiler:c++ -g -O2 Building shared libraries: yes 64bit
support: no OpenGL platform: X11
MacOSX application: no
MacOSX architectures:
MacOSX SDK:
Tcl/Tk NVIZ:yes
BLAS support: no
C++ support:yes
Cairo support: yes
DWG support:no
FFMPEG support: no
FFTW support: yes
FreeType support: yes
GDAL support: yes
GEOS support: yes
GLw support:no
LAPACK support: no
Large File support (LFS): yes
Motif support: yes
MySQL support: yes
NLS support:yes
ODBC support: yes
OGR support:yes
OpenGL support: yes
PNG support:yes
PostgreSQL support: yes
Python support: yes
Readline support: yes
SQLite support: yes
Tcl/Tk support: yes
wxWidgets support: yes
TIFF support: yes
X11 support:yes
touch config.status
dpkg-buildpackage: erreur: debian/rules build a produit une erreur de sortie
de type 2 debuild: fatal error at line 1364:
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc -j5 failed
Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée de la cause ?
Gaëtan
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Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Le 7 juin 14 à 13:12, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le samedi 07 juin 2014, Philippe Gras a écrit... Y a-t-il un moyen de lister les paquets rejetés pour vérifier que mes règles sont conformes à ce que je souhaitais faire ? Tu peux loger les paquets qui correspondent à une règle. Il suffit de mettre la règle « -j LOG » juste avant la règle qui jette, avec une option --log-prefix parlante pour toi. Quand tu es bon sur la règle, tu vires le logging. -- jm OK et merci ! c'est une bonne idée, je vais plancher dessus :-) Pendant que j'y suis, j'ai réussi à dropper le pirate pendant son action ! J'ai eu l'impression que ça a eu un effet très déstabilisant. C'était du brute force et non du ddos, donc son script n'avait de conséquences que dans l'administration : 15.000 requêtes par jour et par action, sur la même page, et tout le backend ramait comme pas possible ! Ça vous intéresse de savoir comment j'ai fait ? Ph. Gras -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607111203.GA7830@espinasse
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
On Saturday 07 June 2014 14:18:23 Philippe Gras wrote: C'était du brute force et non du ddos, donc son script n'avait de conséquences que dans l'administration : 15.000 requêtes par jour et par action, sur la même page, et tout le backend ramait comme pas possible ! Ça vous intéresse de savoir comment j'ai fait ? Ph. Gras Oui, car mon site reçoit des requêtes permanentes sur des pages obsolètes et/ou sur des chemins qui n'existent pas... etc : 400 Bad Request 403 Forbidden 404 Not Found 302 tentative d'attaques André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406071431.29239.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
procmail et rbl
Bonjour, je recherche quelques règles pouvant être employées avec procmail et les listes rbl et sbl ( spamcop et spamhaus ) pour l'instant j'ai installé rblcheck et j'ai perdu quelques courriels du fait que je n'avais pas correctement renseigné une valeur et que tout est passé par /dev/nul merci de votre aimable attention sincères salutations bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607163102.725c29eb@hamtaro
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Le 7 juin 14 à 14:31, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Saturday 07 June 2014 14:18:23 Philippe Gras wrote: C'était du brute force et non du ddos, donc son script n'avait de conséquences que dans l'administration : 15.000 requêtes par jour et par action, sur la même page, et tout le backend ramait comme pas possible ! Ça vous intéresse de savoir comment j'ai fait ? Ph. Gras Oui, car mon site reçoit des requêtes permanentes sur des pages obsolètes et/ou sur des chemins qui n'existent pas... etc : 400 Bad Request 403 Forbidden 404 Not Found Pour ce qui est des 400, de certaines 404 et 403, je pense que tu peux t'inspirer de ça: http://spamcleaner.org/fr/misc/w00tw00t.html Je vais d'ailleurs le faire moi-même, parce que j'ai plein de requêtes avec cette chaîne : FCKeditor qui doit correspondre à un espace d'administration d'un CMS quelconque et ça correspondrait à de l'exploit. 302 tentative d'attaques Par contre, pour celles qui correspondent à ton, ou tes domaines et les redirections 302 tu ferais mieux de les laisser accessibles, pour ne pas cramer ton référencement naturel. Mais ce que j'ai réussi à faire n'a rien à voir puisqu'il s'agissait de bannir le pirate en train d'attaquer. Ça l'a stoppé net une première fois, il a changé de serveur et d'IP, mais j'ai pu le remarquer, et recommencer. Il a abandonné cette nuit-là. Ça dure depuis lundi. = # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -- dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -- dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP = Dans mes logs, ça donne ça : = 72.44.248.136 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:55:58 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - 72.44.248.136 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:55:59 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - 72.44.248.136 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:55:59 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - 72.44.248.136 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:55:59 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - 66.23.229.10 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:56:05 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - 66.23.229.10 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:56:05 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - 66.23.229.10 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:56:05 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - 66.23.229.10 - - [06/Jun/2014:00:56:06 +0200] POST /wp-login.php HTTP/1.0 403 168 - - = L'astuce, c'est après avoir rejeté l'IP en INPUT, on la rejette en RELATED,ESTABLISHED également (parce que le bot est connecté). Ça le déconnecte, et il ne peut plus revenir se connecter une nouvelle fois. Enjoy ! André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ 201406071431.29239.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Bonjour, Le 07/06/2014 18:16, Philippe Gras a écrit : = # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp --dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp --dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP = Sauf erreur de ma part, les deux dernière règles ci-dessus sont inutiles. Si ça matche pour l'une d'entre elles, ça matchera de toute façon pour une des deux premières. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53934dc3.5010...@free.fr
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Le 7 juin 14 à 19:37, Francois Lafont a écrit : Bonjour, Le 07/06/2014 18:16, Philippe Gras a écrit : = # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -- dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -- dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP = Sauf erreur de ma part, les deux dernière règles ci-dessus sont inutiles. Si ça matche pour l'une d'entre elles, ça matchera de toute façon pour une des deux premières. Non, en fait. Si le client est déjà connecté sur le serveur, INPUT ne matche pas. C'était le cas pour moi. J'ai vu que ça ramait dans le backend, et je suis allé voir les logs, et c'est là que j'ai remarqué le manège… J'ai d'abord établi la première règle, mais il était toujours là à taper dans le mur. Il faut d'abord le dropper en RELATED ou ESTABLISHED, et ensuite, il n'a plus la possibilité de revenir, à cause du drop en INPUT. Après avoir rejeté la première IP, le gars est revenu avec une deuxième. J'ai établi une deuxième série de 2 règles, et il a laissé tomber. Il était déjà tard. Ph. Gras -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53934dc3.5010...@free.fr
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Bonsoir, Le 07/06/2014 19:37, Francois Lafont a écrit : = # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp --dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp --dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP = Sauf erreur de ma part, les deux dernière règles ci-dessus sont inutiles. Si ça matche pour l'une d'entre elles, ça matchera de toute façon pour une des deux premières. J'aurais tendance à être d'accord avec ca : les deux premières règles doivent matcher , quelque soit l'état de la connexion. @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5393543f.7000...@stuxnet.org
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Le 7 juin 14 à 20:04, Christophe a écrit : Bonsoir, Le 07/06/2014 19:37, Francois Lafont a écrit : = # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -- dport 80 -s 72.44.248.136 -j DROP # iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -- dport 80 -s 66.23.229.10 -j DROP = Sauf erreur de ma part, les deux dernière règles ci-dessus sont inutiles. Si ça matche pour l'une d'entre elles, ça matchera de toute façon pour une des deux premières. J'aurais tendance à être d'accord avec ca : les deux premières règles doivent matcher , quelque soit l'état de la connexion. Non, justement pas quel que soit l'état de la connexion, et c'est logique. On n'aurait pas de règle pour les connexions établies, sinon ;-) @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5393543f.7000...@stuxnet.org -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6b7fc62a-8cf6-469b-83ce-208434e06...@worldonline.fr
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Bonsoir, Le 07/06/2014 20:31, Philippe Gras a écrit : Non, justement pas quel que soit l'état de la connexion, et c'est logique. On n'aurait pas de règle pour les connexions établies, sinon ;-) Euh ... -m précise un module complémentaire à ta règle . en l'occurrence -m state S'il n'est pas précisé , ta règle matche quelque soit le 'state' . Qu'il soit NEW, ESTABLISHED, RELATED, INVALID, ... @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53935b96.6080...@stuxnet.org
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Le 7 juin 14 à 20:36, Christophe a écrit : Bonsoir, Le 07/06/2014 20:31, Philippe Gras a écrit : Non, justement pas quel que soit l'état de la connexion, et c'est logique. On n'aurait pas de règle pour les connexions établies, sinon ;-) Euh ... -m précise un module complémentaire à ta règle . en l'occurrence -m state S'il n'est pas précisé , ta règle matche quelque soit le 'state' . Qu'il soit NEW, ESTABLISHED, RELATED, INVALID, ... J'en ai fait l'expérience jeudi, et je me souviens que ça n'a pas marché. @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53935b96.6080...@stuxnet.org -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27f7bd1e-2b9a-4f47-ad0f-0473589ad...@worldonline.fr
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
Le Samedi 7 Juin 2014 20:36 CEST, Christophe t...@stuxnet.org a écrit: Bonsoir, Le 07/06/2014 20:31, Philippe Gras a écrit : Non, justement pas quel que soit l'état de la connexion, et c'est logique. On n'aurait pas de règle pour les connexions établies, sinon ;-) Philippe a raison. INPUT ne sert pas pour une connexion déjà établie, seulement pour l'établissement d'une connexion (paquet tcp syn) Mais tout ceci n'est pas très Debian... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7fd0-53937e80-7-46a5ca00@89467401
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?
INPUT ne sert pas pour une connexion déjà établie, seulement pour l'établissement d'une connexion (paquet tcp syn) Merci de venir à mon secours :-) Autre chose que je n'ai pas bien capté : la différence entre -A (add) et -I (insert). Mais tout ceci n'est pas très Debian... C'est vrai, mais ça rentre bien à l'intérieur. Je n'ai pas vu de forum spécifique à iptables, alors je tente ma chance. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7fd0-53937e80-7-46a5ca00@89467401 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/588f56ad-4fe5-40a3-8701-cc209a2cb...@worldonline.fr
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejet és ?
Le Samedi 7 Juin 2014 23:12 CEST, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit: INPUT ne sert pas pour une connexion déjà établie, seulement pour l'établissement d'une connexion (paquet tcp syn) Merci de venir à mon secours :-) Autre chose que je n'ai pas bien capté : la différence entre -A (add) et -I (insert). Il faut voir A comme append. Ajout en fin de liste de règles. I, c'est un insert au début. Cooncernant tes règles ESTABLISHED il serait judicieux de les taper en interactif. Elles n'ont pas trop leur place dans un script après les règles INPUT. Bonne nuit -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7fd0-53938280-b-46a5ca00@89467403
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejet és ?
Bonjour, Le 07/06/2014 23:21, nb a écrit : Le Samedi 7 Juin 2014 23:12 CEST, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit: INPUT ne sert pas pour une connexion déjà établie, seulement pour l'établissement d'une connexion (paquet tcp syn) Pas tout à fait d'accord avec ça, mais rien à voir avec Debian, comme tu l'as précédemment précisé ... (c'est du noyau linux dont il est question ici). Merci de venir à mon secours :-) Autre chose que je n'ai pas bien capté : la différence entre -A (add) et -I (insert). Il faut voir A comme append. Ajout en fin de liste de règles. I, c'est un insert au début. J'approuve. Cooncernant tes règles ESTABLISHED il serait judicieux de les taper en interactif. Elles n'ont pas trop leur place dans un script après les règles INPUT. La, il va falloir que tu éclaires quelques lanternes ... ;) @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53939237.5090...@stuxnet.org
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejet és ?
Le 08/06/2014 00:29, Christophe a écrit : Cooncernant tes règles ESTABLISHED il serait judicieux de les taper en interactif. Elles n'ont pas trop leur place dans un script après les règles INPUT. La, il va falloir que tu éclaires quelques lanternes ...;) Je suis également curieux d'entendre nb à ce sujet. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/539397ac.5000...@rootshell.tk
Re: [IPTABLES] Comment lister les paquets rejet és ?
Le 8 juin 14 à 00:29, Christophe a écrit : Bonjour, Le 07/06/2014 23:21, nb a écrit : Le Samedi 7 Juin 2014 23:12 CEST, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit: INPUT ne sert pas pour une connexion déjà établie, seulement pour l'établissement d'une connexion (paquet tcp syn) Pas tout à fait d'accord avec ça, mais rien à voir avec Debian, comme tu l'as précédemment précisé ... (c'est du noyau linux dont il est question ici). Merci de venir à mon secours :-) Autre chose que je n'ai pas bien capté : la différence entre -A (add) et -I (insert). Il faut voir A comme append. Ajout en fin de liste de règles. I, c'est un insert au début. J'approuve. J'ai l'impression que ça sert surtout en ligne de commande. Rectifiez- moi si je me trompe ! Parce que la subtilité m'échappe. Moi, j'ai un script avec des -P au début pour définir toute la police, et ensuite, je n'ai que des -A. Mais si ça se trouve, ça devrait être des -N partout ? Cooncernant tes règles ESTABLISHED il serait judicieux de les taper en interactif. Elles n'ont pas trop leur place dans un script après les règles INPUT. La, il va falloir que tu éclaires quelques lanternes ... ;) Oui, pourquoi ? Sinon, j'ai bien mes journaux dans /var/log/messages (c'est Debian, ça °0°) : Jun 7 23:59:01 XX kernel: iptables hashlimitIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:22:4d:87:b4:27:10:8c:cf:28:fe:40:08:00 SRC=108.162.229.108 DST=XXX.XXX.XXX LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=59 ID=37922 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=38185 DPT=80 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Jun 7 23:59:01 XX kernel: iptables hashlimitIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:22:4d:87:b4:27:10:8c:cf:28:fe:40:08:00 SRC=108.162.229.111 DST=XXX.XXX.XXX LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=59 ID=30464 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=38193 DPT=80 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Jun 7 23:59:01 XX kernel: iptables hashlimitIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:22:4d:87:b4:27:10:8c:cf:28:fe:40:08:00 SRC=108.162.229.107 DST=XXX.XXX.XXX LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=59 ID=8650 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=11132 DPT=80 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Jun 7 23:59:02 XX kernel: iptables hashlimitIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:22:4d:87:b4:27:10:8c:cf:28:fe:40:08:00 SRC=108.162.229.108 DST=XXX.XXX.XXX LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=59 ID=37923 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=38185 DPT=80 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Jun 7 23:59:02 XX kernel: iptables hashlimitIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:22:4d:87:b4:27:10:8c:cf:28:fe:40:08:00 SRC=108.162.229.111 DST=XXX.XXX.XXX LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=59 ID=30465 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=38193 DPT=80 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 Jun 7 23:59:02 XX kernel: iptables hashlimitIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:22:4d:87:b4:27:10:8c:cf:28:fe:40:08:00 SRC=108.162.229.107 DST=XXX.XXX.XXX LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=59 ID=8651 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=11132 DPT=80 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 = Ça correspond à : 2102 LOGtcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0tcp dpt:80flags: 0x02/0x02 limit: above 3/sec burst 7 mode srcip srcmask 28 LOG flags 0 level 4 prefix iptables hashlimit == C'est parfait, merci Jean-Michel ! Les IP correspondent à celles de Cloudflare, il va falloir que je me renseigne pour les convertir, si possible… @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53939237.5090...@stuxnet.org -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/627183cd-c732-4e9c-b44b-a7103c116...@worldonline.fr
[Wheezy] installation sur un Acer Aspire One A0751h
Bonjour, J'essaie d'installer une Debian Wheezy sur un Acer Aspire One A0751h. L'installation se passe bien mais au démarrage j'ai un problème (qui ne m'étonne pas spécialement) avec la partie vidéo. Au début ça s'affiche correctement mais au bout de quelques secondes l'affichage part en cacahuète. Je voudrais donc booter en console pure. J'ai essayé le mode de dépannage mais il effectue aussi un changement de mode graphique qui amène au même problème qu'en mode normal. J'aimerai donc booter en restant en mode vga de base mais je ne sais pas ce qu'il faut mettre dans grub pour éviter le switch de mode graphique ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140608015115.78ec5e9420bb3314a8229...@neuf.fr
Re: Portatil con solo Linux
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:26:36PM +0200, Altair Linux wrote: estoy mirando en app informatica y en fnac, porque son dos de las tiendas más cercanas, algún portátil de gama media para usar Debian. [...] ¿Sugerencias sobre esto?. Hace un tiempo leí esto [0]. El caso es que cada fabricante tiene su propio procedimiento, con más o menos complicaciones. Si disfrutas habiendo conseguido una dura victoria, puedes probar este método. [0] http://gnulinuxvagos.es/topic/2480-no-quiero-una-licencia-de-windows-y-no-pienso-pagar-por-ella/ -- Adrià García-Alzórriz 0x09494C14 La riqueza consiste mucho mas en el disfrute que en la posesión. -- Aristóteles. (384-322 A.C.) Filósofo griego. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Portatil con solo Linux
Creo que debería haber una lista de fabricantes que ofrecen ordenadores sin sistema operativo, y vigilar todo de cerca. Sean sobremesas, portatiles o lo que sea, porque como indica el artículo ponen mil trampas. Un saludo El día 7 de junio de 2014, 14:31, Adrià ad...@fsfe.org escribió: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:26:36PM +0200, Altair Linux wrote: estoy mirando en app informatica y en fnac, porque son dos de las tiendas más cercanas, algún portátil de gama media para usar Debian. [...] ¿Sugerencias sobre esto?. Hace un tiempo leí esto [0]. El caso es que cada fabricante tiene su propio procedimiento, con más o menos complicaciones. Si disfrutas habiendo conseguido una dura victoria, puedes probar este método. [0] http://gnulinuxvagos.es/topic/2480-no-quiero-una-licencia-de-windows-y-no-pienso-pagar-por-ella/ -- Adrià García-Alzórriz 0x09494C14 La riqueza consiste mucho mas en el disfrute que en la posesión. -- Aristóteles. (384-322 A.C.) Filósofo griego. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+hdpf+zheopepuatujwyho4btpgb3k9oezhaz3_mg_nooa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Portatil con solo Linux
El pasado año compre uno con lo justito y sin sistema operativo. Aparte de instalar el s.o. al gusto, le cambie el disco duro y amplié la memoria. Imagino que habrá mas de un sitio que vendan este tipo de productos, pero ahí va uno. http://www.pccomponentes.com/portatiles/sin_s_o_/ Un saludo -Mensaje original- From: Adrià Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 2:31 PM To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Portatil con solo Linux On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:26:36PM +0200, Altair Linux wrote: estoy mirando en app informatica y en fnac, porque son dos de las tiendas más cercanas, algún portátil de gama media para usar Debian. [...] ¿Sugerencias sobre esto?. Hace un tiempo leí esto [0]. El caso es que cada fabricante tiene su propio procedimiento, con más o menos complicaciones. Si disfrutas habiendo conseguido una dura victoria, puedes probar este método. [0] http://gnulinuxvagos.es/topic/2480-no-quiero-una-licencia-de-windows-y-no-pienso-pagar-por-ella/ -- Adrià García-Alzórriz 0x09494C14 La riqueza consiste mucho mas en el disfrute que en la posesión. -- Aristóteles. (384-322 A.C.) Filósofo griego. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/163A0BFFE83D4A0A8779594220EA0821@Elefante
Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7
On 5 de junio de 2014 18:31:06 CEST, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:38:41 -0300, ciracusa escribió: On 04/06/14 11:06, Camaleón wrote: (...) Tendrías que buscar un chipset que admita vT y con un adaptador de red soportado por el kernel que en el caso de intel son la mayoría (e1000e): http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?VTX=trueMarketSegment=DT Una ves que tengas localizado el chipset podrás afinar mejor el modelo de placa Gigabyte. Camaleón perdona la burrada pero me quieres comentar como corno busco si un determinado chipset, por ejemplo el Intel h61, es soportado por Debian 6 (para usarlo eventualmente con OpenVZ)? Un chipset es un conjunto de componentes (buses, vga, tarjeta de red, puertos usb...) por lo que para buscar la compatibilidad de todos ellos con un sistema operativo tienes que comprobar uno a uno si la versión del kernel que quieres instalar los admite. En cuanto a poder usarlo con openVZ, no tienes más que consultar en enlace que puse más arriba para ver si el chipset admite extensiones de virtaulización. Supongo que aunque estéis hablando de openvz en realidad queréis decir proxmox, porque sino no veo qué relación puede tener con las extensiones de virtualización por hardware. Salut, jors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3cfd9603-20a1-481c-b224-926b0f885...@email.android.com
Re: Portatil con solo Linux
Buenas, uno de los factores es el tiempo, si para enviarlo al servicio técnico hay que hacer un envío internacional, y tardas varios meses en volver a tenerlo, malo. Y como encima haya que VOLVER a mandarlo, lo que me sucedió con un producto de una empresa, peor. El 7 de junio de 2014, 19:27, LUMINARIASCBA FOTON luminarias...@gmail.com escribió: yo creo que hay que levantar la mirada y ver lo que hay mas haya, por ejemplo ahora es totalmente posible tener un superordenador en casa, con el advenimiento de la pc como la rasberry pi o la banana pi totalmente escalable, con una potencia que no te la da ninguna fabricante (amd, intel etc) pero esto cuesta y es un camino poco transitado, o digo por experiencia hay muchas piedras!!! por otro lado con la tecnología tablet las notebook pasaron a la historia ya dentro de unos años no se van a fabricar mas y acá es a donde hay que ver otra ves a los chinos tienen productos muy bueno con toda la tecnología a un precio excelente, en todo y en tablet mas y ellos si ofrecen linux !!! es hora de abrir la mente, levantar la mirada y cambiar el rumbo de la historia :D [image: alejandro delgado on about.me] Alejandro Delgado http://about.me/luminariascba El 7 de junio de 2014, 12:15, Altair Linux altairli...@gmail.com escribió: Creo que debería haber una lista de fabricantes que ofrecen ordenadores sin sistema operativo, y vigilar todo de cerca. Sean sobremesas, portatiles o lo que sea, porque como indica el artículo ponen mil trampas. Un saludo El día 7 de junio de 2014, 14:31, Adrià ad...@fsfe.org escribió: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:26:36PM +0200, Altair Linux wrote: estoy mirando en app informatica y en fnac, porque son dos de las tiendas más cercanas, algún portátil de gama media para usar Debian. [...] ¿Sugerencias sobre esto?. Hace un tiempo leí esto [0]. El caso es que cada fabricante tiene su propio procedimiento, con más o menos complicaciones. Si disfrutas habiendo conseguido una dura victoria, puedes probar este método. [0] http://gnulinuxvagos.es/topic/2480-no-quiero-una-licencia-de-windows-y-no-pienso-pagar-por-ella/ -- Adrià García-Alzórriz 0x09494C14 La riqueza consiste mucho mas en el disfrute que en la posesión. -- Aristóteles. (384-322 A.C.) Filósofo griego. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+hdpf+zheopepuatujwyho4btpgb3k9oezhaz3_mg_nooa...@mail.gmail.com
Exim4
Hola lista: No tengo ningun problema enviando correos; pero al responder no encuentra el dominio. Responde a: nombre_de_maquina.dominio.org Tengo configurado el servidor con dpkg-reconfigure asi: Nombre: dominio.org dominios para los que se recibe correo: dominio.org. Esto ha funcionado correctamente por varios anos! Agregue en el archivo hosts: 192.168.5.50dominio.org Tenia solamente: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.5.50nombre_de_maquina.dominio.org nombre_de_maquina Alguno sabe por donde buscar, por favor? Gracias. latinfo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/a28cbdb35dd273e9bf21bfb0fbc217c3.squir...@mail.vcn.bc.ca
Re: Exim4
En el mail.log... ahi puedes iniciar Enviado desde mi dispositivo android. -Original Message- From: lati...@vcn.bc.ca To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: sáb, 07 jun 2014 19:36 Subject: Exim4 Hola lista: No tengo ningun problema enviando correos; pero al responder no encuentra el dominio. Responde a: nombre_de_maquina.dominio.org Tengo configurado el servidor con dpkg-reconfigure asi: Nombre: dominio.org dominios para los que se recibe correo: dominio.org. Esto ha funcionado correctamente por varios anos! Agregue en el archivo hosts: 192.168.5.50dominio.org Tenia solamente: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.5.50nombre_de_maquina.dominio.org nombre_de_maquina Alguno sabe por donde buscar, por favor? Gracias. latinfo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/a28cbdb35dd273e9bf21bfb0fbc217c3.squir...@mail.vcn.bc.ca
Re: Alo!!!
Não. Recife. Em 6 de junho de 2014 15:28, Emerson Monteiro emo...@gmail.com escreveu: Fred você é aqui de São Paulo? Em 06/06/2014 14:28, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 5 de junho de 2014 12:18, André Nunes Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com escreveu: On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 01:32 -0300, Augusto wrote: ... Existe uma lista (https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese/) que congrega os esforços. Se você ainda não tem ideia do que traduzir, talvez possa perguntar por lá se alguém está aceitando ajuda. Ao que me lembro alguém por lá começou a traduzir o Debian Handbook (http://debian-handbook.info/) e também uma atualização do manual de segurança do debian (https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese/2014/05/msg00011.html). Temos vários projetos de tradução e todos precisam de muita ajuda. Atualmente o debian-handbook está sendo traduzido para pt_BR (entre outras linguas) por várias pessoas. Eu estou dando pequenas colaborações, aprox. 30min/semana. o pessoal está usando uma infraestrutura muito legal para tradução via web, chamada weblate.org. projetos de tradução como o DDTP ou o debian-handbook podem ser feitos com muito pouco tempo. acho que a partir de 5 min/dia você já será de grande ajuda. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/capr829mq1jhc4k70x5lemgsmcxafvdqh2wkdhnfa6j99yg...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAPr829=0wsk3onpekmy98rlgwstxeemdvkzpitjrh3a9gx0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Alo!!!
Em 7 de junho de 2014 13:10, Augusto augustosouza@gmail.com escreveu: Pelo seguinte Sr. Fred. As Distros seguem as regras dos Países do qual se originam. O Fedora, por exemplo é americano. Tendo em vista os recentes problemas de espionagem que todo mundo sabe, evitaria ao máximo usá-lo. eu não sei. se está falando do heartbleed, distros de várias nacionalidades e as multinacionais sofreram do mesmo problema. Afinal, o openssl não era usado só por americanos. O Debian é europeu, sueco se não me engano. Esta foi a razão da escolha dele. Já usei o Fedora há alguns anos atrás. pode citar a fonte? nunca ouvi falar que o Debian era sueco. De problemas, já basta o Windows. Uma Distro BRASILEIRA seguiria as regras daqui, BRASIL, e não as de quem quer que seja. de que regras você está falando? pode dar um exemplo? se for quanto a tradução, então podemos dizer que nunca houve uma distro brasileira, já que os pacotes são em inglês, e só uma parte é traduzida. se está falando de fuso horário, moeda e etc as distros multinacionais, como o debian, estão iguais às supostas nacionais. e se você está falando do país onde o código fonte foi escrito, aí é que todo mundo é multinacional mesmo. mas finalmente, o que é nacionalidade de distro? que parâmetros você usou para dizer que a redhat é americana? ou que debian é sueca? Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/capr829mx919ny8bhfdovw0t1leirbjdttx8kz+hwudso54g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Alo!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Murdock Em 07-06-2014 23:15, Fred Maranhão escreveu: Em 7 de junho de 2014 13:10, Augusto augustosouza@gmail.com escreveu: Pelo seguinte Sr. Fred. As Distros seguem as regras dos Países do qual se originam. O Fedora, por exemplo é americano. Tendo em vista os recentes problemas de espionagem que todo mundo sabe, evitaria ao máximo usá-lo. eu não sei. se está falando do heartbleed, distros de várias nacionalidades e as multinacionais sofreram do mesmo problema. Afinal, o openssl não era usado só por americanos. O Debian é europeu, sueco se não me engano. Esta foi a razão da escolha dele. Já usei o Fedora há alguns anos atrás. pode citar a fonte? nunca ouvi falar que o Debian era sueco. De problemas, já basta o Windows. Uma Distro BRASILEIRA seguiria as regras daqui, BRASIL, e não as de quem quer que seja. de que regras você está falando? pode dar um exemplo? se for quanto a tradução, então podemos dizer que nunca houve uma distro brasileira, já que os pacotes são em inglês, e só uma parte é traduzida. se está falando de fuso horário, moeda e etc as distros multinacionais, como o debian, estão iguais às supostas nacionais. e se você está falando do país onde o código fonte foi escrito, aí é que todo mundo é multinacional mesmo. mas finalmente, o que é nacionalidade de distro? que parâmetros você usou para dizer que a redhat é americana? ou que debian é sueca? Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5393d27c.2050...@alessandroduarte.com.br
Re: openssl update?
On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 13:46:56 -0700 cono...@rahul.net (John Conover) wrote: I updated openssl, and none of the browsers, (firefox, chrome,) work-they just hang. Did I forget something? Nor firefox nor chrome use openssl, they use nss. It is very unlikely that upgrading openssl is connected to this 'browser malfuction' somehow. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607105034.e696af7e9e8c78218856d...@gmail.com
Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax
Two questions. And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two immediate questions. And as of now I have not got access to the device and network in question. I am trying to do my homework in advance. The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are probably general to AIO. We have the ULD and it is installed in both computers that need access. When the device is connected by USB to either computer, it works fine. But now we want, if possible, to network it. 1) I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop wirelessly connected to the router. Is this correct? 2) Can it scan over the network? Again, I assume so, but would be grateful for confirmation. Thanks for help. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406070835.14905.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies
2014-06-06 20:10 GMT+02:00 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: Oh, that's right. You were found to be a clueless troll there, also. And you were kicked out of them. So you had to find another place to troll. Does this discussion really need to continue? ChrisA Unfortunately the user list it's not moderated and those flames are more and more frequent.
Package system totaly a complete mess
Hello all, I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I don't want to make mistakes... Possibly my installation is now in such a state that I should reinstall, but everything *is* working. Anyway: - searching for broken packages gives 0 packages in synatiptic but 6 packages in aptitude. - marking upgradable packages causes both to want to remove lots of things (including parts of cups, Gimp, and of cours all my DE). - If I try to update with aptitude it gives me a liste of packages that should be removed because they are no more used, which is nonsense because most of them ARE in current use. I am thinking all this comes from the fact that I installed Wheezy with Gnome, installed another DE, then removed *parts* of gnome, and the system is thinking because part of Gnome is missing, it should clean up and remove anything that needs it (the list of removal is long, but does include gftp and so). Whats more, the system seems not logical, as it wants to remove Gimp but complains that gimp-data (not to be removed) needs Gimp Any way to bring this mess in order? Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406070948.44281.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax - ADDENDUM
On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote: Two questions. And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two immediate questions. And as of now I have not got access to the device and network in question. I am trying to do my homework in advance. The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are probably general to AIO. We have the ULD and it is installed in both computers that need access. When the device is connected by USB to either computer, it works fine. But now we want, if possible, to network it. 1) I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop wirelessly connected to the router. Is this correct? 2) Can it scan over the network? Again, I assume so, but would be grateful for confirmation. I omitted to say that the two computers are both running Debian Wheezy with TDE 3.5.13.2. The router is one supplied by Virgin (a cable company). I have no details. Thanks. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406070911.38356.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:48:44 +0200 Thierry de Coulon tcou...@decoulon.ch wrote: Hello all, I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I don't want to make mistakes... Possibly my installation is now in such a state that I should reinstall, but everything *is* working. Anyway: - searching for broken packages gives 0 packages in synatiptic but 6 packages in aptitude. - marking upgradable packages causes both to want to remove lots of things (including parts of cups, Gimp, and of cours all my DE). - If I try to update with aptitude it gives me a liste of packages that should be removed because they are no more used, which is nonsense because most of them ARE in current use. I am thinking all this comes from the fact that I installed Wheezy with Gnome, installed another DE, then removed *parts* of gnome, and the system is thinking because part of Gnome is missing, it should clean up and remove anything that needs it (the list of removal is long, but does include gftp and so). Whats more, the system seems not logical, as it wants to remove Gimp but complains that gimp-data (not to be removed) needs Gimp Any way to bring this mess in order? I'd try aptitude full-upgrade first. That will give you a list of proposals. If you don't like them, say no, and like Groucho Marx, it will give you another set, and so on. If you give up first, use 'q' to abort. If you can't reach an amicable arrangement with aptitude, it should at least have offered an insight into where the real problem lies. Another approach is apt-get -f install, which will offer you a list of proposed actions which you can decline. apt-get is a little less subtle than aptitude, and may cut to the root of the problem more quickly, if brutally. Another strategy which I find useful on sid, which probably is less use on wheezy, is to let Synaptic do everything it can without allowing it to remove anything, then reload and try again. Sometimes the order in which things are done makes the difference between working and not working. Don't forget you can rip out quite large chunks of non-system stuff and immediately reinstall (usually), which should bring in the right dependencies. I don't believe anything should ever be uninstallable on stable, unlike unstable sometimes. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607091232.2b871...@jretrading.com
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
On 07/06/14 03:38, Horatio Leragon wrote: *From:* Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz Are they really awesome? What do they do? What were the questions? I believe you are new to this mailing list. I've been told and even scolded umpteen times by some so-called Debian experts here that I've to first find out the answers myself using search tools, the almighty Debian Reference Manual, etc, etc, etc. So I'm repeating what I've been brainwashed: please find out yourself what the above command does. I'm not new to the list. I spent some time figuring out what they do, so I think I have a pretty good idea what they do. I was interested to know whether _you_ knew the answer. The second has some significant pitfalls imho, though that depends on the question. I can tell you what the original question was as I was the one who asked. It was: how to remove old kernels and their corresponding entries in the Grub2 bootloader menu from my computer? (I only wanted to keep the latest upgraded kernel) Right, that's a reasonable request. The answer, though, is not strictly what you asked for: it also removes the kernel image metapackages, so your kernel will not get new kernels when you do an apt-get upgrade. Also, I'd recommend keeping the last good kernel as well. So while it's a useful answer, I wouldn't say it's an awesome answer. It is much more useful if you're able to evaluate it and figure out what it really does before you go ahead. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392ce35.3030...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is racism really necessary or relevant? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406070936.39075.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/14 11:46, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 09:38:40PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote: Why should I subscribe to d-community-offtopic? Isn't chkrootkit a Debian package? No, it's a linux package. Debian in merely one of the distros that carries it in their repos. Um, no. chkrootkit is a tool that will work on GNU/Linux and other Unix-like systems. The ckhrootkit package in Debian is a Debian package. Know of any packages in Debian that aren't Debian packages? I think it's entirely reasonable to discuss its use in Debian on this list. Never said it wasn't. Apologies, I must have missed the context. Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTktBAAAoJELSi8I/scBaNqZMIALKxUU1SjDPPBFFes6HIWLdx jdQpEjLqFaaKJSUEoD74lfIfNMP7niUaNntWkgmyklGqR4+Sm3msKOR0mC/+SrrR ASgj2a+6y5DyTmheV9uP5270EiLsiAfHfRyEhOW3rIOh8YrFzLIOcZagH7Z+VoGM eEEFqCCY7m+2IjlbuxlFW+72/uKbEM9Y5dq+FdaYvnoFpyQfmtFtWATnMW0OLvQi bl8Qsnp05YYsVRnNskAJCHhdx4RN80wnDcPOBP/OS0EvEkNoawzvWXKGyeAdBX03 0fKRXjWF8gOnKisU6vA1sDKvve9ZJk5gbPNh5OvswzEel1mB5i4KsYWXLdBhB54= =iP6E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392d040.5040...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: GRUB2
On 2014-06-07, Man_Without_Clue love.cha...@gmail.com wrote: I understand I should re-install GRUB from Debian side. Now, how do I do that? install-grub command doesn't work. How do I install grub? Right. The command is grub-install (these small matters of syntax matter because our 'puters are so dense and cannot guess what you really mean). You must be root (or sincere, I forget). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlp5k6k.22h.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1 [SOLVED]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 05/06/2014 15:28, François Patte a écrit : Bonjour, Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media under xfce4: I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the media is not mounted and if I ask (mouse left click) to mount them the answer is: not authorized operation Yes, I have thunar correctly configured Strangely, I can mount CD and DVD using xfce mount plugin but this one does not show usb disks or sticks Any clue? (debian sid updated). Culprit are libpolkit-gobject-1-0:amd64 and libpolkit-backend-1-0:amd64 version: 0.105-6 Going back to version 0.105-4 solves the problem. It also solve the lightdm problem of impossible shutdown - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlOS1WMACgkQdE6C2dhV2JVVvgCfbWXCIWBV70ry4p0ZD13T62b2 WXAAniFWxmuIdjGjCSvT8Y0PcDrwH7/O =06eS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392d56a.9060...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
Re: GRUB2
install-grub is used on solaris x86 2014-06-07 10:45 GMT+02:00 Curt cu...@free.fr: On 2014-06-07, Man_Without_Clue love.cha...@gmail.com wrote: I understand I should re-install GRUB from Debian side. Now, how do I do that? install-grub command doesn't work. How do I install grub? Right. The command is grub-install (these small matters of syntax matter because our 'puters are so dense and cannot guess what you really mean). You must be root (or sincere, I forget). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlp5k6k.22h.cu...@einstein.electron.org -- esta es mi vida e me la vivo hasta que dios quiera -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cae7pj3azmcfvsmf_b4to-0qts-tweqnuezrncqfxrdvqkgt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GRUB2
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/817-5093/disksxadd-45774/index.html 2014-06-07 11:34 GMT+02:00 emmanuel segura emi2f...@gmail.com: install-grub is used on solaris x86 2014-06-07 10:45 GMT+02:00 Curt cu...@free.fr: On 2014-06-07, Man_Without_Clue love.cha...@gmail.com wrote: I understand I should re-install GRUB from Debian side. Now, how do I do that? install-grub command doesn't work. How do I install grub? Right. The command is grub-install (these small matters of syntax matter because our 'puters are so dense and cannot guess what you really mean). You must be root (or sincere, I forget). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlp5k6k.22h.cu...@einstein.electron.org -- esta es mi vida e me la vivo hasta que dios quiera -- esta es mi vida e me la vivo hasta que dios quiera -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAE7pJ3CHvaWmZ7x5p3ncVjk=5Tub8KSb+zCRLiXR7=y8zp+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GRUB2
On 2014-06-07, emmanuel segura emi2f...@gmail.com wrote: install-grub is used on solaris x86 I'm afraid I fail to find that fact in any way exculpatory. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlp5nns.22h.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:48:44 +0200 Thierry de Coulon tcou...@decoulon.ch napísal: Hello all, I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I don't want to make mistakes... Possibly my installation is now in such a state that I should reinstall, but everything *is* working. Anyway: - searching for broken packages gives 0 packages in synatiptic but 6 packages in aptitude. - marking upgradable packages causes both to want to remove lots of things (including parts of cups, Gimp, and of cours all my DE). - If I try to update with aptitude it gives me a liste of packages that should be removed because they are no more used, which is nonsense because most of them ARE in current use. I tried Synaptic some years ago and i decide to don't use it, mostly due style by which it works with dependencies (don't matter if Depends, Suggests or Recommends), where it wasn't marks installed dependencies as automatically installed, nor removes the packages which are not needed more (by other packages). You need to learn one thing - the A mark in the aptitude, eg (rest of lines removed): ilibpam0g-dev i A libpam0g ^^^ The highlighted A flag stand for automatically installed (as dependency of some other package) package. When all packages (which depends on automatically installed one) are removed (uninstalled), then the automatically installed package is removed too. Because Synaptic don't care about this dependency uninstall, then now you have a lot packages marked with A, but they seems as not needed any more – which can be false, as you can see in the gimp case (IMO by some meta-package uninstall). Don't afraid, simple go to the e.g. gimp line and press the + key (install) - it removes the A flag (and possible mark for update by the u flag). It takes osme work until you repair these dependencies relations, but it is safe - until you don't press the second g. To clean list of changes (the list before installation), you can simple more time switch back (q) and go (g). There can be useful the Cancel pending actions item in menu Actions, it unmarks all install/uninstall (perhaps the hold too) actions on all packages, but preserves the A flag, then you can continue play with A from the clean state. Finally, you can maintain the A flag by the M and/or m keys, which switch the A flag on/off. Hope this help you. -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: cryptsetup problem
On 6/06/2014 10:11 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 6/06/2014 12:08 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: The above script worked fine for around 45 minutes. Okay, another update. Sadly I've got a non-responsive server once again :( It almost completed the task on the first crypt device: DD_PID: 3622 dd,3622 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/md1_crypt bs=128M Saturday 7 June 14:09:36 EST 2014 27533+9 records in 27533+9 records out 3696161898496 bytes (3.7 TB) copied, 69967.8 s, 52.8 MB/s This is from the RAID1 (mdadm -D) details: Array Size : 3883658048 (3703.75 GiB 3976.87 GB) To shut down the system after a really bad kernel panic, do the following: Alt+SysRQ+e (sends TERM-signal, processes can shutdown properly (e.g. save data)) [not enabled] Alt+SysRQ+u (a sync will be done when unmounting anyway) Alt+SysRQ+i (for the processes that didn't listen for the TERM signal, this is a kill -9 process) [not enabled] Alt+SysRQ+b (reboot). After the reboot, I cannot find anything interesting in any logs, no hanging message, nothing. A. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1
06.06.2014, 10:56, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: Le 06/06/2014 10:29, David Dušanić a écrit : 05.06.2014, 15:28, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: Bonjour, Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media under xfce4: I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the media is not mounted and if I ask (mouse left click) to mount them the answer is: not authorized operation Yes, I have thunar correctly configured Strangely, I can mount CD and DVD using xfce mount plugin but this one does not show usb disks or sticks Any clue? (debian sid updated). Thanks I could think about a systemd issue. If you use policykit then it needs systemd now in sid. Are you still using sysv? Yes, I think so because I did not install systemd If you are right, what about a backward compatibility of installed systems? Developpers do not care? Problems are more important than I said first: 1- xfce4 systematically records my sessions when I logout and I don't want it does 2- lightdm no more allows to shutdown the system I have to do it as root from console... PS. These problems are stupid! I just wanted to show to some people that linux can now be used by people unable to use command line I missed! They will remain with windows... You are using sid, so it has nothing to do with the command line and new users. ;) You can disable session saving in Xfce from the xfce4-settings-manager or to be asked if you want to save the session (session management), three options, quite nice IMO. I am not a developer. Yep, some things got screwed because everybody is pushing systemd but I do not care, I use it already and everything works. Could be that Xfce still has to prepare for total systemd compatibility, therefore your problem with lightdm and shutdown. Maybe the BTS can help you find out what you could do right now: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741698 -- David Dusanic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/644781402135...@web14m.yandex.ru
Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax - ADDENDUM
On 06/07/2014 04:11 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote: Two questions. And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two immediate questions. And as of now I have not got access to the device and network in question. I am trying to do my homework in advance. The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are probably general to AIO. We have the ULD and it is installed in both computers that need access. When the device is connected by USB to either computer, it works fine. But now we want, if possible, to network it. 1) I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop wirelessly connected to the router. Is this correct? 2) Can it scan over the network? Again, I assume so, but would be grateful for confirmation. I omitted to say that the two computers are both running Debian Wheezy with TDE 3.5.13.2. The router is one supplied by Virgin (a cable company). I have no details. Thanks. Lisi If the router functions as a normal router ought to function, then that shouldn't be a problem. You don't say whether your network is set up for static IP addresses or DHCP. I find static addressing to be more straightforward in instances like this. If the printer/scanner/fax worked when connected via USB, then you should be able to use the same configuration files or apps and just change the device address. E.g., using CUPS for printing, create another printer and specify the CLX4195FN's network address. Prior to doing that though, try running a 'ping' from your two Wheezy boxes to the all-in-one's network interface to ensure it's reachable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392e5c1.2080...@mousecar.com
Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax
On Sat 07 Jun 2014 at 08:35:14 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: 1) I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop wirelessly connected to the router. Is this correct? Your printer speaks ipp. So, yes. 2) Can it scan over the network? Again, I assume so, but would be grateful for confirmation. Yes. Last time I did this the setup was made with sane. ULD? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/07062014111408.07c45d03b...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Systemd biting CUPS
On Fri 06 Jun 2014 at 16:39:22 +0200, Siard wrote: For a couple of weeks now, printing with CUPS does not work in Jessie after booting with systemd. However: after booting with SysVinit, everything works fine. Is this with 'init-/bin/systemd' or is systemd-sysv installed. Not that it particularly matters, it's just part of the picture. With systemd, upgrading showed lots of errors concerning CUPS. The problem is described here: www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1208054.html Those errors have gone lately, but printing still doesn't work with systemd, even though the site mentions that it should be fixed in CUPS 1.7.1-11, whilst CUPS in Jessie is already at 1.7.2-3. If the errors are gone the bug is fixed. E.g., LibreOffice sees no printers, it only lists a 'generic printer' and the CUPS interface at http://localhost:631 is unreachable. Is this your specific problem? I can think of reasons for it with printer discovery over a network but the 'works with sysvinit but not with systemd' wouldn't be part of the solution. It strikes me that I have not seen it mentioned in this list yet. Doesn't it affect others and is there perhaps an easy solution that I'm missing? A minimal Wheezy install upgraded smoothly to Jessie here and lpstat -a shows the print queues on a cups 1.7 server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/07062014105244.3293ff8ba...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
07.06.2014, 09:48, Thierry de Coulon tcou...@decoulon.ch: Hello all, I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I don't want to make mistakes... Possibly my installation is now in such a state that I should reinstall, but everything *is* working. Anyway: - searching for broken packages gives 0 packages in synatiptic but 6 packages in aptitude. - marking upgradable packages causes both to want to remove lots of things (including parts of cups, Gimp, and of cours all my DE). - If I try to update with aptitude it gives me a liste of packages that should be removed because they are no more used, which is nonsense because most of them ARE in current use. I am thinking all this comes from the fact that I installed Wheezy with Gnome, installed another DE, then removed *parts* of gnome, and the system is thinking because part of Gnome is missing, it should clean up and remove anything that needs it (the list of removal is long, but does include gftp and so). Whats more, the system seems not logical, as it wants to remove Gimp but complains that gimp-data (not to be removed) needs Gimp Any way to bring this mess in order? Thierry Sounds like many meta packages. That is why aptitude wants to remove a lot of your stuff. Now I have no easy answer to this. I only use apt, specifically because of what you describe, though they same can happen with apt if you do an autoremove. How about trying to update/upgrade your system with apt? -- David Dusanic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1605021402136...@web2g.yandex.ru
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
On Saturday 07 June 2014 11.58:41 Slavko wrote: Ahoj, (...) You need to learn one thing - the A mark in the aptitude, eg (rest of lines removed): ilibpam0g-dev i A libpam0g ^^^ (...) Hope this help you. Thanks Slavko. I'm not sure I got everything, but it shows the way to go: learn using aptitude. I'll do that and mybe return to you if I don't get it working. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406071222.04417.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax
On Saturday 07 June 2014 11:18:24 Brian wrote: On Sat 07 Jun 2014 at 08:35:14 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: 1) I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop wirelessly connected to the router. Is this correct? Your printer speaks ipp. So, yes. 2) Can it scan over the network? Again, I assume so, but would be grateful for confirmation. Yes. Last time I did this the setup was made with sane. Thanks, Brian. ULD? Sorry. Samsung's Universal Linux Driver. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406071131.08132.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax - ADDENDUM
On Saturday 07 June 2014 11:13:21 ken wrote: On 06/07/2014 04:11 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 07 June 2014 08:35:14 Lisi Reisz wrote: Two questions. And yes, I am googling and RTFMing, but I am left with two immediate questions. And as of now I have not got access to the device and network in question. I am trying to do my homework in advance. The AIO in question is a CLX4195FN, but the two questions I have are probably general to AIO. We have the ULD and it is installed in both computers that need access. When the device is connected by USB to either computer, it works fine. But now we want, if possible, to network it. 1) I assume that if the printer is connected by ethernet to a router, amd that router is a wireless router, the printer can be controlled from a laptop wirelessly connected to the router. Is this correct? 2) Can it scan over the network? Again, I assume so, but would be grateful for confirmation. I omitted to say that the two computers are both running Debian Wheezy with TDE 3.5.13.2. The router is one supplied by Virgin (a cable company). I have no details. Thanks. Lisi If the router functions as a normal router ought to function, then that shouldn't be a problem. You don't say whether your network is set up for static IP addresses or DHCP. I find static addressing to be more straightforward in instances like this. If the printer/scanner/fax worked when connected via USB, then you should be able to use the same configuration files or apps and just change the device address. E.g., using CUPS for printing, create another printer and specify the CLX4195FN's network address. Prior to doing that though, try running a 'ping' from your two Wheezy boxes to the all-in-one's network interface to ensure it's reachable. Thnaks, Ken. That is very helpful. I shall certainly follow your suggestion to ping both computers. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406071132.59645.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Networking an all-in-one printer/scanner/fax
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:35:14 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Lisi, 2) Can it scan over the network? Again, I assume so, but would be Scanning can be controlled by any computer with the correct software and access rights. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Every single one of us Devil Inside - INXS signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 07/06/2014 12:05, David Dušanić a écrit : 06.06.2014, 10:56, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: Le 06/06/2014 10:29, David Dušanić a écrit : 05.06.2014, 15:28, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: Bonjour, Since last upgrade, I cannot mount (or umount) any removable media under xfce4: I can see the icon on the desktop, mouse over indicates that the media is not mounted and if I ask (mouse left click) to mount them the answer is: not authorized operation Yes, I have thunar correctly configured Strangely, I can mount CD and DVD using xfce mount plugin but this one does not show usb disks or sticks Any clue? (debian sid updated). Thanks I could think about a systemd issue. If you use policykit then it needs systemd now in sid. Are you still using sysv? Yes, I think so because I did not install systemd If you are right, what about a backward compatibility of installed systems? Developpers do not care? Problems are more important than I said first: 1- xfce4 systematically records my sessions when I logout and I don't want it does 2- lightdm no more allows to shutdown the system I have to do it as root from console... PS. These problems are stupid! I just wanted to show to some people that linux can now be used by people unable to use command line I missed! They will remain with windows... You are using sid, so it has nothing to do with the command line and new users. ;) These kinds of problems also happen with stable version You can disable session saving in Xfce from the xfce4-settings-manager or to be asked if you want to save the session (session management), three options, quite nice IMO. Nope! this doesn't work (for many times now!) I had to put some command in my .Xresources (rm -fr .cache/sessions) to get rid of old sessions! I am not a developer. Yep, some things got screwed because everybody is pushing systemd but I do not care, I use it already and everything works. Could be that Xfce still has to prepare for total systemd compatibility, therefore your problem with lightdm and shutdown. I sent a message SOLVED, it is a bug in polkit... I don't understand why developping a new init must screw up the old one! So many times developpers do not care about backward compatibility and this is boring The best example is GNOME, that's why I switched to xfce. I can give other examples. I am a TeX user, and TeX has made many changes since its beginning but I have some 15 year old files which I can still use, because people developping TeX take care of final users, I don't think that it is the case for linux distro developpers/packagers - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlOS8BYACgkQdE6C2dhV2JUexACgglShvlN3nV2libag/1jSvcIU 5w8AoMs+18L+MjWC/nrjKV7FFV65aIHg =kMix -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392f01c.5060...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Yes, you're Jerry alright, imposting as a Jap? LOL From: Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh Jerry Stuckup, that's so sly of you. You're now hiding behind a new email address. I'm not Jerry, just a spectator checking that Murphy's law applied to mailing-lists is true: in each mailing-list you mind, one major dumb ass you'll find. AND PLEASE CONFIGURE CORRECTLY YOUR FRIGGING MUA! -- Meor: How do you say pig in japanese? Sleeping_God: Dish N°7. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140606184850.4e4ecdca@anubis.defcon1
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
No, it's in Hollandais, as in Francois Hollande. From: Curt cu...@free.fr To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 2014-06-06, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/06/2014 12:17 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote: I do have an IQ of 45. This explains a lot… Which IQ scale is this score on? I think it's in Celsius (in Fahrenheit that would be about 113). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlp3spf.22m.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
You dirty old man, where are the expletives? I miss them you know. You have been working behind the scenes, haven't you? From: Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 4/06/2014 11:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, it is in my nature to call a spade a spade. And you have already shown you have little background in Linux, as this post once again shows. Yet you refuse to even attempt to learn the basic knowledge you need to even understand how to use Linux. Instead, you go searching forums and mailing lists, expecting people to hand-feed you. It's not a judgement, and it's not stereotyping. It is what you have shown you are by your words. The fact you don't like it means nothing to me. I only care about those willing to take responsibility for their actions and knowledge. Amen brother, you picked this jerk well. Wonder if we can discourage him enough to choose another community to bring down, or better still to have him go offline completely! A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5391fc49.80...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Ah, you've finally decided to show your true colors?
You dirty old man! Jerk!
From: Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie.
enable internet access)?
On 6/06/2014 8:39 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote:
dpkg --list 'linux-image-*' \
| perl -ane 'BEGIN { $r = `uname -r` or die; chomp $r } print $F[1],
\n if $F[0] eq ii $F[1] !~ /\Q$r\E\b/' \
| xargs -r aptitude purge -y
This script'll remove linux-image-generic and the kernel will no
longer be upgraded automatically.
And if your box has Secure Boot (even disabled), the corresponding
linux-signed-* packages will be installed and won't be purged.
That sure sounds like it would be doing us all a great service!
A.
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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies
You're lying. Your social media friends say otherwise. I'm happily married. From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies On 6/6/2014 12:26 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: Poor old Jerry. He's a bitter, lonely man whose wife and kids have left him for another man. ROFLMAO! I am happily married - unlike you. But then your personal attacks show your level of maturity. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/539201e5.7020...@attglobal.net
Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies
I'm still with them, except that I wish to allot more time to you. To keep you company or you will resort to binge drinking. And why? Because your ex-wife discovered you are a loser and she decided to leave for another man. From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:02 AM Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies On 6/6/2014 12:28 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: Not true. I'm still popular on those forums, except that I've found Jerry Stuckup to be a very interesting case study for students of psychology. Then why don't you go back to them? Oh, that's right. You were found to be a clueless troll there, also. And you were kicked out of them. So you had to find another place to troll. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392023d.7030...@attglobal.net
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Poor Jerry Stuckup! I caught you lying again. Your social media friends can vouch you are a lonely divorcee who drowns his misery in booze. From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:06 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 6/6/2014 12:03 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: *From:* Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net *To:* Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Friday, June 6, 2014 10:35 PM *Subject:* Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? It's clear to anyone with half a brain. To those, the examples are quite good. But then Debian is made for people with half a brain - not trolls and idiots. Lemme psycho-analyze you: you're a miserable, lonely man full of bitterness and angry with the world. Your wife has divorced you and has custody of your children (if you have any to begin with) and you're a loser with women because you suck at relationship-building. That's why you spend almost your entire waking hours on a keyboard behind a computer monitor. Besides your computer, the only other companion you have is your beer. It's not hard to guess you're a pot-bellied, bald headed fatso. ROFLMAO! I guess you'd be talking about your own life - if you could have found a woman who would marry you. And no, you're wrong. I am happily married, and have been for a number of years. I spend my time on the computer because that's my job. But you wouldn't understand the term job. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53920311.3030...@attglobal.net
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
From: Joe j...@jretrading.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? rkhunter will not help an already compromised machine, No antivirus for the Microsoft or the Mac platform can rescue an already compromised machine. so the machine must be clean when it is first run. How do you ensure that the machine is clean? It must be re-initialised after anything is installed or updated. Its function is oddly similar to a discontinued third party software for Microsoft OS. Do you know of Patch Tuesday, the second Tuesday of the month? (In Europe, it's the following day) Yes, I've been a Microsoft customer since Windows 95 and prior to that, MS-DOS. No Debian bugfix is held back until an arbitrary date. I agree. Microsoft works closely with the NSA.
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
You're a troll, Jerry Stuckup. Admit it. And you lied when you said you're happily married. Your social media friends say otherwise. Troll..Troll From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:12 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 6/6/2014 12:14 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: *From:* Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net *To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Sent:* Friday, June 6, 2014 10:42 PM *Subject:* Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? And you once again show you refuse to learn - even when quoting the correct spelling. How many times must I tell you that I'm dyslexic? Have you ever heard of a spell checker? I didn't think so. How about a dictionary? Whether you are dyslexic or not is immaterial. The fact you refuse to learn and expect the world to hand feed you is. The pot calling the kettle black. You refuse to accept people for what they are. You want to mold them in your own conceited image. No, I just call trolls what they are. I already have. And I've figured out that what people like you think of me is immaterial. And do you think that your opinion of me matters to me? Do you think I care? It's obvious you haven't done enuf self-instropection. Or your wife wouldn't have left for another man, taking your kids along with her :-) ROFLMAO! The personal attacks continue. But you're wrong here, also. I am happily married. It's obvious you suck at relationship-building and your only companions are your computer and beer. I am excellent at relationship building, as shown by the successful businesses I've had (and continue to have). Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/539204a5.8030...@attglobal.net
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
You're speaking for yourself, troll. From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:14 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 6/6/2014 1:37 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 4/06/2014 11:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, it is in my nature to call a spade a spade. And you have already shown you have little background in Linux, as this post once again shows. Yet you refuse to even attempt to learn the basic knowledge you need to even understand how to use Linux. Instead, you go searching forums and mailing lists, expecting people to hand-feed you. It's not a judgement, and it's not stereotyping. It is what you have shown you are by your words. The fact you don't like it means nothing to me. I only care about those willing to take responsibility for their actions and knowledge. Amen brother, you picked this jerk well. Wonder if we can discourage him enough to choose another community to bring down, or better still to have him go offline completely! A. I doubt it, Andrew. Trolls like him don't go away easily. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53920518.5000...@attglobal.net
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
This mailing list is not your personal property, Jerry Stuckup. You think you're God's gift to Debian? Bah! Pui From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:08 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 6/6/2014 12:08 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: *From:* Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net *To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Sent:* Friday, June 6, 2014 10:39 PM *Subject:* Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? Nope, but then I'm not the one asking for help here. Oh, you Schadenfreude, you creep. Do you think for a split second that I would be helpless if I did not receive help here? Yes, because you've been kicked out of every other place you've trolled. Not at all. Just calling you for what you are. And once again, the spelling is JUDGMENTAL. But once again you prove you refuse to learn. You see, you're judgemental again. I suppose it's your character flaw. Your claim of having an IQ of 45 is an insult to those who really DO have an IQ of 45. I do have an IQ of 45. Are you accusing me of lying, you creep? No, I'm just saying you insult those who REALLY have an IQ of 45. That's not how Debian works. Are you now the official spokesman for Debian, Stuckup? Ah, yes. The third grade mentality shows up again. No, there is no official spokesman. But I've been using Debian and on this list a LOT longer than you have. This is not your personal help source for things you're too lazy to look up - or attempt to learn on your own. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/539203ad.2010...@attglobal.net
Re: where is my WiFi card? (ThinkPad T61)
You're now attacking the manufacturers? What a troll you are! Divorce has certainly exacted a heavy toll on you. Your ex-wife did the right thing when she left you for a better guy. Alright, you can now seek solace in booze. From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:31 AM Subject: Re: where is my WiFi card? (ThinkPad T61) On 6/6/2014 2:31 PM, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: On 2014-06-06 14:39, Jack Wilborn wrote: I guess that's funny, I configure my wifi in the interfaces file... Oh well... I know I had lots of problems with configuring of my wireless interfaces mostly because they were proprietary chip sets. I guess you are loading a 'blob', the term used for the extracted firmware of the manufacturers software. The 'wireless-tools' package is the best to interface with as the 'iw' commands are very useful. I will try and dig my notes up with the commands that I used and post them for you.. It seems like you should be able to at least figure out where the wifi is connected, i.e. usb or pci buss, I bet on the pci buss as it's faster I believe... Jack On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Stanisław Findeisen stf.list.debian.u...@eisenbits.com mailto:stf.list.debian.u...@eisenbits.com wrote: On 2014-06-05 23:08, Jack Wilborn wrote: Might be that the wireless is 'wlan0' instead. Might want to look at your config files to see it it's being used. The items you are using (like 'lsusb', I assume you used 'lspci -vv' or something like that) are tools that read all ports, and usually the wifi stuff is located on a psi connection (does not have to be).. What installation stuff did you do? (like 'wireless-tools') that should give you some indication of if it's working. Plus I think the 'lo' is the local loopback. Jack According to the wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#NetworkManager , when using NetworkManager, the wireless interface should not be referenced within Debian's /etc/network/interfaces file. So I didn't take any configuration steps, besides installing (aptitude) the packages: firmware-iwlwifi (non-free) network-manager network-manager-gnome network-manager-kde wireless-tools wpasupplicant and their dependencies. I am using KDE. It says that network-manager-kde: https://packages.debian.org/stable/network-manager-kde is a dummy package, and that network-manager-gnome: https://packages.debian.org/stable/network-manager-gnome works in KDE too. But I can't see a systray applet anywhere, unless I run nm-applet from the command line. I also disabled openvpn on startup (I think it was installed as one of the dependencies). openvpn 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off I'm sorry, but it was simply disabled in the BIOS config. :) The reason I couldn't find the right configuration switch was that it was in Security - I/O Port Access, instead of Config - Network. This + a proper stanza in /etc/network/interfaces solved the issue. No NetworkManager needed. LOL, don't you just LOVE how manufacturers make those settings intuitive? :) Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53920908.8090...@attglobal.net
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:35 AM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? but I agree that Horatio needs to learn, how to inform himself. Self-responsibility is mandatory when using *nix, so it's better to introduce Linux to him at the OT mailing list. How do you know that I don't learn on my own? When I offered two examples of answers that I got on my own effort, the so-called experts here lambasted not just me but the providers of the answers as well. It goes to show that those guys, Jerry Stuckup, Andrew McGlasgow, Bzzz are nothing but losers.
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Yeah, Andrew McGlasgow.. I'm expecting more expletives from you, you dirty old man! From: Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:45 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 7/06/2014 4:14 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I doubt it, Andrew. Trolls like him don't go away easily. Unfortunately I am pretty sure you are right Jerry, but I am amazed that people are still /trying/ to help him even after he has shown horrible form and he has pissed off so many of us. But enough from me on this topic, unless he again manages to bring out the worst in me (and I somehow cannot ignore it). A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53920c30.1040...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
On 7/06/2014 9:14 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: You dirty old man, where are the expletives? I miss them you know. You have been working behind the scenes, haven't you? No, you reap your own /rewards/ I'm just glad that others can see through you as well. It will only be natural with your responses that less and less people will take any notice of your posts... it is your doing, not anything to do with me whatsoever so don't kid yourself any further/ And DO NOT expect ANY further responses from me, you don't deserve them. Oh and it is very rare for me to use expletives, I save them for the /special/ people that really do deserve them. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392faf3.5010...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
What do you call people who chronically spews/utters expletives and obscenities? Yeah, it's called an Andrew. From: Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 7/06/2014 4:45 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 03:09 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote: Did you know that I'm dyslexic? And there are many categories of dyslexia? I suffer from dyslexia too, but I'm highly gifted and I guess your IQ is also higher than 45. Learning by doing, to understand --help and man pages is great when reading is an issue. What is it like to have dyslexia? Animations Illustrations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZLFTW4OGY I am sure that there are different levels of dyslexia, the same as there are different levels of other conditions. The extremes in that youtube video would be very hard to deal with; but given what we've seen, dyslexia is not his greatest problem -- rather it might be his greatest excuse. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53920f2c.2010...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Systemd biting CUPS
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:04:15 +0100, Brian wrote: On Fri 06 Jun 2014 at 16:39:22 +0200, Siard wrote: For a couple of weeks now, printing with CUPS does not work in Jessie after booting with systemd. However: after booting with SysVinit, everything works fine. Is this with 'init-/bin/systemd' or is systemd-sysv installed. Not that it particularly matters, it's just part of the picture. 'init=/bin/systemd' is added to the kernel command line. A second entry for jessie in /boot/grub/grub.cfg without it enables me to boot with SysVinit. With systemd, upgrading showed lots of errors concerning CUPS. The problem is described here: www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1208054.html Those errors have gone lately, but printing still doesn't work with systemd, even though the site mentions that it should be fixed in CUPS 1.7.1-11, whilst CUPS in Jessie is already at 1.7.2-3. If the errors are gone the bug is fixed. Error messages during an upgrade is what I meant here. E.g., LibreOffice sees no printers, it only lists a 'generic printer' and the CUPS interface at http://localhost:631 is unreachable. Is this your specific problem? I can think of reasons for it with printer discovery over a network but the 'works with sysvinit but not with systemd' wouldn't be part of the solution. It's just a locally connected printer. CUPS worked (after booting with systemd) until some upgrade, a few weeks ago. It strikes me that I have not seen it mentioned in this list yet. Doesn't it affect others and is there perhaps an easy solution that I'm missing? A minimal Wheezy install upgraded smoothly to Jessie here and lpstat -a shows the print queues on a cups 1.7 server. After booting with SysVinit: $ lpstat -a HL5240 accepting requests since vr 28 jun 2013 19:08:19 CEST PDF accepting requests since ma 05 apr 2010 22:49:03 CEST HL5240 (Brother) is the connected printer. PDF refers to cups-pdf. However, after booting with systemd: $ lpstat -a lpstat: Bad file descriptor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607132303.869ec64a.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 7 Jun 2014 12:22:04 +0200 Thierry de Coulon tcou...@decoulon.ch napísal: Thanks Slavko. I'm not sure I got everything, but it shows the way to go: learn using aptitude. Don't worry. If you uninstall something, you can always install it back (remember the + key?) :) Aptitude is simple and straightforward, for basic usage these keyboard shortcuts are needed only: - + (install), - - (uninstall), - _ (uninstall and purge), - m/M (mark/unmark auto) - q (close view) - g (process - needed twice to real process). All other things you will discovery over time. I'll do that and mybe return to you if I don't get it working. No problem, simple ask here. I or someone other will help you. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Why should I apologize when it's clearly Jerry Stuckup's fault? From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 3:24 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 15:04 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 6/6/2014 2:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Please Jerry and Horatio stopp this flame war. And especially you Horatio, consider if the above words from you are appropriate. IMO this goes much too far. :( Ralf, You're right. This guy is hopeless - even worse than most trolls. Hopefully others will ignore him as I plan to do. Jerry If Horatio should apologize to you, I'm willing to help him at the off-topic mailing list. If he shouldn't apologize to you, I will ignore him. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1402082644.799.27.camel@archlinux
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 21:43 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: [snip] Andrew do _not_ reply to Horatio yet. Only consider to reply, assumed he should apologized to the list and especially to Jerry! TIA, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1402141726.4950.25.camel@archlinux
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Go ahead Lisi Threats are for cowards made by cowards. From: Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On Friday 06 June 2014 19:57:48 Andrew McGlashan wrote: but given what we've seen, dyslexia is not his greatest problem I believe neither that he has dyslexia nor that his IQ is 45. But why on earth is anyone still bothering with him? Let's all kill-file him and get on with our lives. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406062239.08971.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
I'm beginning to believe that Ralf is a Nazi-sympathizer disguised as a Jew. From: lati...@vcn.bc.ca lati...@vcn.bc.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:13 AM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 21:38 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: On 06/06/14 05:22, Bob Holtzman wrote: Why should I subscribe to d-community-offtopic? Isn't chkrootkit a Debian package? No, it's a linux package. Debian in merely one of the distros that carries it in their repos. Um, no. chkrootkit is a tool that will work on GNU/Linux and other Unix-like systems. The ckhrootkit package in Debian is a Debian package. I think it's entirely reasonable to discuss its use in Debian on this list. It is, but Horatio mentioned Ubuntu ;). I like Horatio, no bad feelings here, but I agree that Horatio needs to learn, how to inform himself. Self-responsibility is mandatory when using *nix, so it's better to introduce Linux to him at the OT mailing list. 2 Cents, Ralf And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8ec50caad72e0b23d144e236667852e3.squir...@mail.vcn.bc.ca
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
No, no. Jerry the Stuckup. I enjoy discussing your character shortcomings very much. As I said in one of my earlier posts, you make for a very good medical case for students of psychiatry and clinical psychology. From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 3:04 AM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 6/6/2014 2:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 09:03 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote: __ From: Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net To: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? It's clear to anyone with half a brain. To those, the examples are quite good. But then Debian is made for people with half a brain - not trolls and idiots. Lemme psycho-analyze you: you're a miserable, lonely man full of bitterness and angry with the world. Your wife has divorced you and has custody of your children (if you have any to begin with) and you're a loser with women because you suck at relationship-building. That's why you spend almost your entire waking hours on a keyboard behind a computer monitor. Besides your computer, the only other companion you have is your beer. It's not hard to guess you're a pot-bellied, bald headed fatso. Please Jerry and Horatio stopp this flame war. And especially you Horatio, consider if the above words from you are appropriate. IMO this goes much too far. :( Ralf, You're right. This guy is hopeless - even worse than most trolls. Hopefully others will ignore him as I plan to do. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/539210a7.5060...@attglobal.net
Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies
From: Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies Unfortunately the user list it's not moderated and those flames are more and more frequent. I can tell you who started them: Jerry Stuckle a/k/a Jerry STUCKUP
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/07/2014 07:38 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: [that on 2014-06-07 at 2:35, Ralf Mardorf wrote:] but I agree that Horatio needs to learn, how to inform himself. Self-responsibility is mandatory when using *nix, so it's better to introduce Linux to him at the OT mailing list. How do you know that I don't learn on my own? When I offered two examples of answers that I got on my own effort, the so-called experts here lambasted not just me but the providers of the answers as well. It goes to show that those guys, Jerry Stuckup, Andrew McGlasgow, Bzzz are nothing but losers. As far as I understand it, you presented those answers as answers you were given by people in other places, not as answers you got on your own effort. Answers you got on your own effort would be, for example, if you had literally put together those commands yourself, based on understanding what the tools involved do, and knowing what each step does - the kind of understanding which could, albeit with difficulty, be gotten from reading man pages and other documentation. Note that I never said those were bad answers - just that they weren't awesome ones, because while they may solve your immediate problem at hand, they don't help you get into a position where you don't need to ask for answers anymore because you can figure the answers out by yourself. (Providing an answer that just solves the immediate problem at hand isn't a bad thing, but when someone keeps asking one question after another after another about relatively simple things, it's better to help that person learn to help themselves than to just keep providing solutions to each new immediate problem at hand every time.) And as far as I recall, I never said anything about the people who provided those answers at all, except that I don't know much of anything about them. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTkv31AAoJEASpNY00KDJrLZsP/0yVrbsgqeCn+L/kP5HA/7vN u5pYWI2IjiBNarVq8a66INxFyO5RjGb/gPRpMxn7qL/FTGTb8isIQdePbSKkUdum iz5zmlugm9yb+OCT5bsPPwibTtuLM7EJjwvd0T7H8/8MVVGrNjF2fc+1eHidhT5G yjZvyWPQXRnL86NLGnYrvkuQcO4I2WIU3IQYos33lUpKRuEgV1O1sSThdYXLsxv+ UIHALyOOnVKo3SOSFBy5voV0VOeZ2Yu3STE0a+HWe2WZkFNVC5oKsBHH4ku0Zd4K TrOnr0VK1lrEHZ8qkZfjbbPa/8yw94x7ZSzPGFqDlFMiGW+aDhmExQVXl79AMMo3 cVWUvRB1q8OzICycFsBl34EYkabJ1P4R4p05KOL0HRedzmHnq/wXAGT4RYkoetCd LCkj0RD9pITAdLaH19dcOpwUl5bukC0LZ74daYh7kOkvX0cndysjRiP8B4S6mBaq ByT8dtuJNeCooBCRLnLf/am9Dp72H8A9pEmfgk4E/LAjDWdXgEoJrTuFfLcqNlRi q57y0379ii22CMmdLIJKMM1QhQtWDSejJW620AK8QthZ2FKlq7hAD0gr5SdN1fB3 JX9RqD27GJXoQQ18wmBhhiatcVYdKu9Zo3ISzpbJXxYUF7gawRMuyQVu0wPMQzIp OGVSkbaNyw6QDb5ygPUf =5tWK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392fdf5.4010...@fastmail.fm
Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/07/2014 07:52 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: [that on 2014-06-07 at 3:38, Raffaele Morelli wrote:] Unfortunately the user list it's not moderated and those flames are more and more frequent. I can tell you who started them: Jerry Stuckle a/k/a Jerry STUCKUP Possibly so, but he's not the only one perpetuating them; you're doing at least as much of that now as he is. (As witness the fact that you just did it again, in the quote above.) - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTkv6PAAoJEASpNY00KDJrYZoQAIQY8e3n+sHtsmC+Jvqygfcg UZWVL3y0T8EMUupN9m37k9fnn+So6vvaKlEkmOT0M1b6dymQSXzlm204PqOaSBu3 usXt4sFePWv1D5/YvGJHDbk0sQQ70ngqDADph5T1/5rFKtDrmngB6yAoH6AnqWp/ dVdE+aFFMZO4PHdEHfK4idYfB+aRthP0QYmvEjY0pNjIaPqAfLFDoWMXOZRsk5wl gzuuDAS9mNPdPQpQ/oilGRRM7H0kTNV2sQopb/d+/14IG/xm1xU023odnvgbkvpV DBZ7J/JIUqwlAVdY/npHHCnvaz1oV/br8KfXsKr8Alnz6Wo3gn2dF5QB18DUd64r lVLdQLDJVbVutxGxAiv9o93mKmg8D8CibMvHRB2HMCbedtFwMRpbjV5DkrFl5a18 dzuilPi8VBT4VfrOyFhmuL+prhUmPD5Pro0GeKaDjNktFMdtv3RdegvFEIL1kwyc mlKYR94eewHWWuWr5SIdYgCQxU96YLO3zQkH8aKMHaxb4mjZTAGTdTOfQOfP7ZQ1 j7vhr1hEl/Dd9WBVUjW2vA8YZZHJZeGZE/iPxX1RlDAfc/pUTB2X4S3Wa5qWfYwk OjlLBWFWwJL8GlBE3VCuVUslrs+wslU8y/jJI91CYkvqdwm05wYylaTGDcw/3ZvA O318gvHCzqxlNq8ZPsf0 =pN5z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5392fe8f.6060...@fastmail.fm
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
From: Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? The answer, though, is not strictly what you asked for: it also removes the kernel image metapackages, so your kernel will not get new kernels when you do an apt-get upgrade. No offence, Richard but you're wrong this time. I suggest you try that command on a test machine before giving your answer as stated above. I have tried it at least 7 times in the past two weeks (and why? because I'm learning how to use Debian. When I get meet a roadblock and no immediate help is at hand, even after googling for answers, I reformat my machine and start anew.) Also, I'd recommend keeping the last good kernel as well. Thanks for the recommendation, but if and when I meet obstacles and can't solve them, I just have to reformat my machine and start afresh. It is much more useful if you're able to evaluate it and figure out what it really does before you go ahead. In case you didn't already know, I've little knowledge of Debian. By the time I finish reading and understand the concepts of bash scripting, it may be two years from now. What do you recommend that I do during these two years?
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
I agree with you, Lisi. It was fine at first and then Andrew McGlashan followed by Jerry Stuckup decided to flame me. From: Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Should I install chkrootkit? On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is racism really necessary or relevant? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406070936.39075.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Don't give excuses, you dirty old man. You can't help yourself. It's in your nature and mouthing expletives is hereditary. Are your children similarly afflicted? From: Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au To: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On 7/06/2014 9:14 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: You dirty old man, where are the expletives? I miss them you know. You have been working behind the scenes, haven't you? No, you reap your own /rewards/ I'm just glad that others can see through you as well. It will only be natural with your responses that less and less people will take any notice of your posts... it is your doing, not anything to do with me whatsoever so don't kid yourself any further/ And DO NOT expect ANY further responses from me, you don't deserve them. Oh and it is very rare for me to use expletives, I save them for the /special/ people that really do deserve them. A.
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
Dream on Ralf. Dream on. From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)? On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 21:43 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: [snip] Andrew do _not_ reply to Horatio yet. Only consider to reply, assumed he should apologized to the list and especially to Jerry! TIA, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1402141726.4950.25.camel@archlinux
Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?
On 07/06/14 23:59, Horatio Leragon wrote:
*From:* Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz
*To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org
*Sent:* Saturday, June 7, 2014 4:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter
(ie. enable internet access)?
The answer, though, is not strictly what you asked for: it also
removes the kernel image metapackages, so your kernel will not get new
kernels when you do an apt-get upgrade.
No offence, Richard but you're wrong this time.
I suggest you try that command on a test machine before giving your
answer as stated above.
root@test:/home/richard# aptitude search linux-image~i
i A linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 - Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
i linux-image-amd64 - Linux for 64-bit PCs
(meta-package)
root@test:/home/richard# dpkg --list 'linux-image-*' \
| perl -ane 'BEGIN { $r = `uname -r` or die; chomp $r } print
$F[1], \n if $F[0] eq ii $F[1] !~ /\Q$r\E\b/' \
| xargs -r aptitude purge -y
The following packages will be REMOVED:
linux-image-amd64{p}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 5,120 B will be freed.
(Reading database ... 52129 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-image-amd64 ...
root@test:/home/richard#
There you are. There were no other kernel packages installed in this
case; I tend to keep my machines clear of old junk if I can.
The only package removed, then, was linux-image-amd64, the meta-package
that depends on the current linux-image package.
I have tried it at least 7 times in the past two
weeks (and why? because I'm learning how to use Debian. When I get meet
a roadblock and no immediate help is at hand, even after googling for
answers, I reformat my machine and start anew.)
Also, I'd recommend keeping the last good kernel as well.
Thanks for the recommendation, but if and when I meet obstacles and
can't solve them, I just have to reformat my machine and start afresh.
Fair enough - if you're working on a test machine, that's fine. If it's
a machine you rely on for your day-to-day work, it's a bit different.
Also, I probably should have mentioned that once you've used the new
kernel for a while, then yes you're probably safe to get rid of the old
one, as I had done above (but then also that was a test machine).
It is much more useful if you're able to evaluate it and figure out
what it really does before you go ahead.
In case you didn't already know, I've little knowledge of Debian. By the
time I finish reading and understand the concepts of bash scripting, it
may be two years from now.
What do you recommend that I do during these two years?
You intend to finish? I don't - there's always more to learn. I've been
using Debian for maybe 13 years, and GNU/Linux for longer than that, and
still have plenty to learn about bash scripting and many other things.
Just keep using Debian, experimenting, reading the documentation,
searching the web and asking (polite) questions when needed. Ignore
other people's bad attitudes (but not necessarily what they're saying)
if you can. Remember that how expert or knowledgeable someone is is not
at all related to how polite they are. Do your best to understand what
the answers are saying - they may be wrong, they may be out of date, or
they may be answering a different question to the one you thought you'd
asked (which doesn't necessarily make them useless).
Richard
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Re: Systemd biting CUPS
Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl writes: 'init=/bin/systemd' is added to the kernel command line. By looking at I've got a feeling that 'init=/bin/systemd' should be added automatically to the kernel line in grub, but after I switched to systemd there is no such line? I tried by adding it manually and my system (Sid) works - systemd is PID 1, but wonder what to do to automatically update grub line(s)? Sincerely, Gour -- Everyone is forced to act helplessly according to the qualities he has acquired from the modes of material nature; therefore no one can refrain from doing something, not even for a moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87y4x8c3zl@atmarama.net
Re: GRUB2
On Saturday 07 June 2014 10:34:44 emmanuel segura wrote: install-grub is used on solaris x86 Which is relevant how to what does or does not work in Debian??? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406071350.26210.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Systemd biting CUPS
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl writes: 'init=/bin/systemd' is added to the kernel command line. By looking at I've got a feeling that 'init=/bin/systemd' should be added automatically to the kernel line in grub, but after I switched to systemd there is no such line? I tried by adding it manually and my system (Sid) works - systemd is PID 1, but wonder what to do to automatically update grub line(s)? If you add init=... to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub, it'll be added to the kernel cmdline when update-grub is run. If you don't want to have to add init=... to the kernel cmdline, install systemd-sysv because it'll ensure that /sbin/init is a symlink to /lib/systemd/systemd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Sx=_3m-keqinpc2tsln-nkowzt6xmaqvn0bgp-yoj_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: System_d biting CUPS
On Sat 07 Jun 2014 at 13:23:03 +0200, Siard wrote: It's just a locally connected printer. CUPS worked (after booting with systemd) until some upgrade, a few weeks ago. This clarifies matters. After booting with SysVinit: $ lpstat -a HL5240 accepting requests since vr 28 jun 2013 19:08:19 CEST PDF accepting requests since ma 05 apr 2010 22:49:03 CEST HL5240 (Brother) is the connected printer. PDF refers to cups-pdf. However, after booting with systemd: $ lpstat -a lpstat: Bad file descriptor To make progress I think we might need the outputs of systemctrl status cups before and after running 'lpstat -a' when the init is systemd. Also, please attach your cupsd.conf and cupsd-systemd-listen.conf to any further post you make. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607133551.gu17...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Systemd biting CUPS
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes: If you add init=... to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub, it'll be added to the kernel cmdline when update-grub is run. Ahh, OK. If you don't want to have to add init=... to the kernel cmdline, install systemd-sysv because it'll ensure that /sbin/init is a symlink to /lib/systemd/systemd. Now it's clear, thank you. I installed systemd-sysv, but was not aware of the symlink. Btw, what would you recommend for safe upgrade path in the future? Sincerely, Gour -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87ppikc0yz@atmarama.net
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
A step before that maybe, to take further what Slavko proposed, to sort out packages which are dependencies or recommendations of other packages which are not marked automatically installed. The aptitude command-line search can help here: $ aptitude search '~i!~M(~R~i|~Rrecommends:~i)' will show any installed packages that aren't auto which are dependencies or recommendations of other packages. From this list you should mark anything you don't care about as automatically installed (aptitude markauto ...). This will help the update process a lot. Be aware though that circular depends/recommends prevents all packages in that list to be marked auto. -- Regards, jvp. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lmv50q$7ja$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: package recommendation for daily journal
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:16:51PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:30:01 PM UTC+5:30, lina wrote: Hi, I am looking for a package, which can act as a smart diary or journal to help me remember the records of small things, such as obtain a licensed software, not installed yet, uninstall the harden-client. emacs' org mode is the killer app for this http://orgmode.org/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607141345.GA21959@tal
Re: [Solved] Re: GRUB2
On 06/06/14 09:39 PM, Man_Without_Clue wrote: On 06/06/2014 11:38 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 06/06/14 02:04 AM, Go Linux wrote: On Fri, 6/6/14, Man_Without_Clue love.cha...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: GRUB2 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, June 6, 2014, 12:48 AM Hi all, Once again I need your help. I have debian wheezy installed on my primary HDD sda1, and I just installed Mint 17 on separate HDD sdb2. Now the GRUB of the MINT 17 took over the grub of Debian, but I don't like look of ths new grub installed by Mint. Is there anyway to revive the debian's GRUB or edit the menu of Mint's GRUB? Thanks for your help. Man without clue Boot into wheezy on sda1 and run update-grub. That has sorted things for me in the past. That will update the Grub menu...but it will still be displayed by the Grub installed on sdb2. What you want I think is to run install-grub as root from your Debian partition... ie as root install-grub /dev/sda1 Guys, After thinking re-install GRUB, I just re-install GRUB from the synaptic manager. It worked as expected. Great. Sorry, I made the error in my reply to you...it is of course grub-installnot install-grub. Shouldn't reply before my first coffee :) -- When the rich get richer they get more powerful and that puts them in the position to lobby for policies to make them even richer. - former Clinton advisor Larry Summers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53932018.9070...@videotron.ca
Re: Crypt data on the fly
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 02:13:23PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: differentiates it from random noise. For some people, being able to prove that data was encrypted is enough of a problem (I live in a country where my government can force me to reveal my keys - refusing or forgetting results in a prison term). Contempt of court? I think that is fairly standard practice. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607142355.GB21959@tal
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:36:39 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 06 June 2014 23:13:10 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: And, Who are you Ralf? a Jew? This list is not moderated! And is sadly starting to become an unfriendly and unwelcoming place. Is racism really necessary or relevant? Lisi Wow, Lisi, I didn't catch that. So many insults, so little time. Needless to say, lati...@vcn.bc.ca becomes my fourteenth Debian-users member to be procmailed out of existence, and in his/her case it's not just Debian-Users email, it's all email. I've got no time for Ku-Klux-Klan types. I see lati...@vcn.bc.ca has a Canadian email address. If he/she is a landed immigrant, racism could get him/her kicked out of the country. It would be a shame for him/her if the government found out about this ;-) I gave a class in Canada once, and called an example technologist him instead of him or her, and got told about it right in class. Canadians have no patience for disrespect of ethnic, gender, or racial groups. Thanks for pointing this out. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140607113426.6ac0b8f6@mydesk
