Re: sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-08 Thread admini
Le 07/12/2014 22:51, moi-meme a écrit : Le Sun, 07 Dec 2014 22:20:02 +0100, Klaus Becker a écrit : $ apt-cache show detox je connais bien detox et ça fonctionne très bien. Mais j'ai oublié de préciser que je ne veux pas changer de noms de fichiers/répertoires. Il y a des page webs

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Frédéric MASSOT
Le 07/12/2014 18:31, Alain Rpnpif a écrit : Bonjour, La commande free donne 3159324 octets de RAM. Mais le BIOS (carte MSI A78M-E35 avec APU AMD A4-5300) rapporte 4096 Mo, qui me vole le reste ? J'ai lancé memtest86+ et il voit bien les 2 barettes : Memory SPD informations : Slot 0 : 2048 MB

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le dimanche 07 décembre 2014 à 20:52, Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit : Quand vous avez, au moins, 1 Gio de mémoire centrale, ajoutez plutôt l'option -m à la commande 'free' (pour avoir le résultat en Mio), nous n'en sommes plus à quelques centaines de kio près et c'est plus facile à lire.

Re: sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-08 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le dimanche 07 décembre 2014 à 20:43, moi-meme a écrit : Mes lignes de /etc/fstab : //nas_lg/donnees/ /NAS/donnees cifs noauto,rw,user,user=user,password=pass,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0766,dir_mode=0766 0 0 Pourquoi ne pas passer par un montage NFS ? Seb

Re: sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-08 Thread JF Straeten
Re, On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:25:41AM +0100, Sébastien NOBILI wrote: [...] Le dimanche 07 décembre 2014 à 20:43, moi-meme a écrit : Mes lignes de /etc/fstab : //nas_lg/donnees/ /NAS/donnees cifs

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread andre_debian
On Sunday 07 December 2014 21:56:48 Pascal Hambourg wrote: andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : C'est pareil chez moi, RAM annoncée = 2048 MB et la commande indique : $ free = Mem: 2073884 octets Il y a toujours une différence entre mémoire annoncée et mémoire réelle, comme les

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Pascal Hambourg
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Sunday 07 December 2014 21:56:48 Pascal Hambourg wrote: andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Il y a toujours une différence entre mémoire annoncée et mémoire réelle, comme les supports de sauvegarde, DD, clés USB... Qu'appelles-tu mémoire annoncée

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Frédéric MASSOT a écrit : Les différents contrôleur (vidéo, disque, PCI hole, etc) de la carte mère ont besoin de mémoire pour fonctionner et il utilise la RAM. Il n'y a guère que le contrôleur vidéo intégré qui utilise une partie significative de la RAM centrale, s'il n'a pas de mémoire

Re: Client léger : Boot en PXE montage / en NFS (read-only).

2014-12-08 Thread Vincent Farget
Bonjour, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : Le vendredi 5 décembre 2014, 16:25:51 Vincent Farget a écrit : Bonsoir, ’jour, Voila la configuration que je viens de tester ou je souhaite (toujours) monter en NFS un partage en lecture seule contenant un système Linux (complet) en le

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 7 décembre 2014, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Sun, 7 Dec 2014 18:31:40 +0100 Alain Rpnpif rpn...@free.fr a écrit: Bonjour, La commande free donne 3159324 octets de RAM. Mais le BIOS (carte MSI A78M-E35 avec APU AMD A4-5300) rapporte 4096 Mo, qui me vole le reste ? J'ai

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 7 décembre 2014, Klaus Becker a écrit : peut-être une des 2 barrettes a un problème. As-tu testé les 2 barrettes une par une, en enlevant d'abord l'une, ensuite l'autre ? Bonne idée, Klaus. Je vais essayer. -- Alain Rpnpif -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Belaïd
bonjour, je ne dit pas que les 770m vienne totalement du noyau (heureusement sinon faudrait lui faire un régime draconien, ainsi que pour les modules, ...) mais il y contribue.Il y'a aussi des regions mémoire qui sont réservées aux périphériques/matériels, etc ... Le 8 déc. 2014 15:45, Alain

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Alain Rpnpif a écrit : Donc il y a bien 770 Mo de différence. Je ne pense pas que cela vienne du noyau, free en tient compte (À Belaïd). Moi non plus puisque memtest affiche la même quantité indépendamment du noyau. Peut-être l'APU comme le suggère Gaëtan (et André). Connaissez-vous des

Re: sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-08 Thread moi-meme
Le Mon, 08 Dec 2014 09:40:02 +0100, admini a écrit : si tu mettais ton DD sur un système charseté en utf8_fr@euro ca fait quoi? j'ai du UTF8 et dde l'ISO8859-15 c'est un NAS tout fait. Le DD est en ext3 (des vieux trucs quoi) le charseter par un fstab chez moi du genre : iocharset=value ?

Re: sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-08 Thread moi-meme
Le Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:30:02 +0100, JF Straeten a écrit : Pourquoi ne pas passer par un montage NFS ? je peux pas : c'est un NAS tout fait : SMB ou ftp rien de plus. Ça, ou rsync ? je fais déjà rsync. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: Installer Debian sur un PC sans DVD

2014-12-08 Thread andre_debian
On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:39:32 Pascal Hambourg wrote: L'installateur Debian amd64 ou multiarch (i386+amd64) est amorçable en UEFI [1]. Si Windows démarre en mode UEFI et qu'on veut le garder et si on amorce l'installateur Debian en mode legacy, il installera le chargeur d'amorçage en

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-08 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Mon, 08 Dec 2014 20:20:43 +0100 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org a écrit: Alain Rpnpif a écrit : Donc il y a bien 770 Mo de différence. Je ne pense pas que cela vienne du noyau, free en tient compte (À Belaïd). Moi non plus puisque memtest affiche la même quantité

Re: sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-08 Thread JF Straeten
Re, On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 07:14:22PM +, moi-meme wrote: je peux pas : c'est un NAS tout fait : SMB ou ftp rien de plus. Ça, ou rsync ? je fais déjà rsync. Mmmm :-/ Juste une idée : créer une grosse image en « sparse file » (une image à trous) sur le NAS, formatée avec un FS qui

Re: sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-08 Thread JF Straeten
Re, On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:35:08AM +0100, JF Straeten wrote: [...] Juste une idée : créer une grosse image en « sparse file » (une image à trous) sur le NAS, formatée avec un FS qui accepte les noms de fichiers exotiques... Ça permettrait d'y écrire ce que tu veux... L'ennui, c'est

Re: [HS?] Service libre pour gestion de projet

2014-12-08 Thread Alexandre Delanoë
Le vendredi 05 décembre 2014, vers 03:12, Alexandre Delanoë écrivait: Ainsi, connaîtriez vous des projets alternatifs qui publient leur code ? Si ça se trouve il y a des solutions aussi fiables que je ne connais pas encore. Merci d'avance pour vos idées/partage d'expériences. Pas de

Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread unciegobailando
Tanto jessie como sid en los tres programas que menciono a continuacion presentaban los mismos valores. imagen: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5R1DCZ9kPeI/VIVq47KCOdI/ACs/_Bbq2ZKNjyA/s1600/wtf-free-space.png Gparted dice en /dev/sda3 14,62 GB libres df -h dice en /dev/sda3 2,1 GB libres

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread fernando sainz
El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:11, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: Tanto jessie como sid en los tres programas que menciono a continuacion presentaban los mismos valores. imagen:

Re: A start job is running for create volatile files

2014-12-08 Thread Angel Vicente
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 El Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:01:41 -0300 unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 06/12/14 a las 12:32, Camaleón escibió: El Sat, 06 Dec 2014 12:44:10 +0100, Fernando Ferraro Cattino escribió: Buenos dias, alguien podria darme alguna

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread fernando sainz
El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:33, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:11, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: Tanto jessie como sid en los tres programas que menciono a continuacion presentaban los mismos valores. imagen:

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread unciegobailando
El 08/12/14 a las 07:09, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:33, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:11, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: Tanto jessie como sid en los tres programas que menciono a

Re: A start job is running for create volatile files

2014-12-08 Thread Fer.Lista.Debian
El 08/12/2014 a las 10:39, Angel Vicente escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 El Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:01:41 -0300 unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 06/12/14 a las 12:32, Camaleón escibió: El Sat, 06 Dec 2014 12:44:10 +0100, Fernando Ferraro Cattino

Re: A start job is running for create volatile files

2014-12-08 Thread unciegobailando
El 08/12/14 a las 09:18, Fer.Lista.Debian escibió: Tengo servidor + 10 terminales y esta sensación de que en cualquier momento todo deje de funcionar es bastante desagradable. esa sensacion fernando, se llama systemd, y yo cada ves que prendo la pc la comparto contigo la misma espectativa.

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread fernando sainz
El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 13:11, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 08/12/14 a las 07:09, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:33, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:11, unciegobailando

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread unciegobailando
El 08/12/14 a las 07:09, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:33, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:11, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: Tanto jessie como sid en los tres programas que menciono a

Re: A start job is running for create volatile files

2014-12-08 Thread unciegobailando
El 08/12/14 a las 09:18, Fer.Lista.Debian escibió: El 08/12/2014 a las 10:39, Angel Vicente escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 El Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:01:41 -0300 unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 06/12/14 a las 12:32, Camaleón escibió: El Sat, 06

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread fernando sainz
El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 13:58, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 08/12/14 a las 07:09, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:33, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:11, unciegobailando

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread unciegobailando
El 08/12/14 a las 10:23, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 13:58, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 08/12/14 a las 07:09, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:33, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 8

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread Ricardo Delgado
El 08/12/2014 10:35, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 08/12/14 a las 10:23, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 13:58, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 08/12/14 a las 07:09, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread Gerardo Diez García
El 08/12/14 13:58, unciegobailando escribió: El 08/12/14 a las 07:09, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:33, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 10:11, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: Tanto jessie

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread unciegobailando
El 08/12/14 a las 10:53, Ricardo Delgado escibió: El 08/12/2014 10:35, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com mailto:unciegobaila...@mail.com escribió: El 08/12/14 a las 10:23, fernando sainz escibió: El día 8 de diciembre de 2014, 13:58, unciegobailando unciegobaila...@mail.com

Re: Puedo hacer wbinfo -u pero no getent passwd (Ya me funcionó)

2014-12-08 Thread Denis Morejon Lopez
El enlace simbólico me tenía que quedar en /lib/libnss_winbind.so.2 (Nada que diga 64 como dice en la wiki de samba4) a pesar de que uso sistema de 64 bits. ln -s /usr/local/samba/lib/libnss_winbind.so.2 /lib/ On 12/04/2014 10:04 AM, Camaleón wrote: El Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:49:18 -0500,

Re: Problemas con espacio libre en particion

2014-12-08 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 08 Dec 2014 06:11:48 -0300, unciegobailando escribió: Tanto jessie como sid en los tres programas que menciono a continuacion presentaban los mismos valores. imagen: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5R1DCZ9kPeI/VIVq47KCOdI/ACs/ _Bbq2ZKNjyA/s1600/wtf-free-space.png Gparted dice

Re: A start job is running for create volatile files

2014-12-08 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:18:10 +0100, Fer.Lista.Debian escribió: (...) Buenos dias, gracias a todos por contestar !!! Cosas que hice : 1) Revisar el fstab (blkid) y comprobar que estaba correcto 2) Mover los archivos que estaban en /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/ a /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d.old/ (como

Lançamento Itaquera

2014-12-08 Thread Cesar Santos - PDG 11- 966187072
Bom dia. Empreendimento diferenciado em Itaquera! Condomínio Arena. Na rua da Faculdade Unicastelo, ótima oportunidade para moradia e para investimento. Excelentes plantas de 55m², 57m² e 65m². Unidades à partir de R$ 300.000,00 2 dormitórios com suíte e espaço para closet. 3 dormimitórios

Re: [OT] Re: Debian + Android + Kernel

2014-12-08 Thread Esteban Monge
El 2014-12-07 17:45, unciegobailando escribió: El 07/12/14 a las 20:41, unciegobailando escibió: Me olvide de recomendarte el sistema cyanogenmod, ese viene con el tun.ko al parecer, y es un clon/fork/mod/pin/pun/slam/trok de android libre. Eso si, tenes que aprender a instalarlo (yo lo

Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread martin ayos
Es una pregunta un poco estúpida, por favor, no me aporreen. Tengo Debian Wheezy y quisiera saber si puedo mantener el Kernel y actual junto a un Kernel RT, de modo que puede bootear con uno u otro, según lo necesite. No he encontrado cómo hacerlo. -- Martín Ayos ===

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread Esteban Monge
El 2014-12-08 14:26, martin ayos escribió: Es una pregunta un poco estúpida, por favor, no me aporreen. Tengo Debian Wheezy y quisiera saber si puedo mantener el Kernel y actual junto a un Kernel RT, de modo que puede bootear con uno u otro, según lo necesite. No he encontrado cómo hacerlo.

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread martin ayos
El 8 de diciembre de 2014, 17:38, Esteban Monge estebanmo...@riseup.net escribió: El 2014-12-08 14:26, martin ayos escribió: Es una pregunta un poco estúpida, por favor, no me aporreen. Tengo Debian Wheezy y quisiera saber si puedo mantener el Kernel y actual junto a un Kernel RT, de modo

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread Manolo Díaz
El lunes, 8 dic 2014, a las 21:38 horas (UTC+1), Esteban Monge escribió: El 2014-12-08 14:26, martin ayos escribió: Es una pregunta un poco estúpida, por favor, no me aporreen. Tengo Debian Wheezy y quisiera saber si puedo mantener el Kernel y actual junto a un Kernel RT, de modo que puede

A Debian Jessie le debe de faltar muy poco para ser estable...

2014-12-08 Thread Eduardo Rios
Hoy he actualizado Jessie, y entre varios paquetes de gnome y otros, se me ha actualizado base-files a la 8, y ahora cat /etc/debian_versión dice 8.0 y lsb_release -a edurios@debian:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.0

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread martin ayos
El 8 de diciembre de 2014, 18:27, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: El lunes, 8 dic 2014, a las 21:38 horas (UTC+1), Esteban Monge escribió: El 2014-12-08 14:26, martin ayos escribió: Es una pregunta un poco estúpida, por favor, no me aporreen. Tengo Debian Wheezy y quisiera

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread Manolo Díaz
El lunes, 8 dic 2014, a las 22:33 horas (UTC+1), martin ayos escribió: El 8 de diciembre de 2014, 18:27, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: El lunes, 8 dic 2014, a las 21:38 horas (UTC+1), Esteban Monge escribió: El 2014-12-08 14:26, martin ayos escribió: Es una pregunta un poco

Re: A Debian Jessie le debe de faltar muy poco para ser estable...

2014-12-08 Thread Manolo Díaz
El lunes, 8 dic 2014, a las 22:31 horas (UTC+1), Eduardo Rios escribió: Hoy he actualizado Jessie, y entre varios paquetes de gnome y otros, se me ha actualizado base-files a la 8, y ahora cat /etc/debian_versión dice 8.0 y lsb_release -a edurios@debian:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are

Re: A Debian Jessie le debe de faltar muy poco para ser estable...

2014-12-08 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 09/12/14 a las 00:19, Manolo Díaz escribió: El lunes, 8 dic 2014, a las 22:31 horas (UTC+1), Eduardo Rios escribió: Hoy he actualizado Jessie, y entre varios paquetes de gnome y otros, se me ha actualizado base-files a la 8, y ahora cat /etc/debian_versión dice 8.0 y lsb_release -a

Re: A Debian Jessie le debe de faltar muy poco para ser estable...

2014-12-08 Thread Manolo Díaz
El martes, 9 dic 2014, a las 00:30 horas (UTC+1), Eduardo Rios escribió: El 09/12/14 a las 00:19, Manolo Díaz escribió: El lunes, 8 dic 2014, a las 22:31 horas (UTC+1), Eduardo Rios escribió: Hoy he actualizado Jessie, y entre varios paquetes de gnome y otros, se me ha actualizado base-files

Ayuda con el llenado de una encuesta: Administración de servidores sobre canal oculto

2014-12-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
¡Hola compañeros debianeros! Para un trabajo que estoy desarrollando, me solicitaron que sustente ciertas decisiones de diseño en una encuesta aplicada a profesionales de la administración de sistemas. Les pido por favor, si les sobran diez minutos de tiempo (no debe llevarles más), responder

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Sí, sin ningún problema. Ya no me meto a describir cómo armar el núcleo en cuestión, porque ya te lo respondieron. Lo que sí, aprovecho para dejarte la liga de un video que tomé en mi salón de clases (imparto Sistemas Operativos en la UNAM, México), cuando invité al músico Chema Serralde a

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread martin ayos
El 8 de diciembre de 2014, 21:20, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org escribió: Sí, sin ningún problema. Ya no me meto a describir cómo armar el núcleo en cuestión, porque ya te lo respondieron. Lo que sí, aprovecho para dejarte la liga de un video que tomé en mi salón de clases (imparto Sistemas

Re: Kernel RT y Kernel común? en Wheezy

2014-12-08 Thread martin ayos
El 8 de diciembre de 2014, 21:20, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org escribió: Sí, sin ningún problema. Ya no me meto a describir cómo armar el núcleo en cuestión, porque ya te lo respondieron. Lo que sí, aprovecho para dejarte la liga de un video que tomé en mi salón de clases (imparto Sistemas

Lokala daemons

2014-12-08 Thread Tobias Carlsson
Hej! Hur gör ni när ni vill köra ett program som ett lokal tjänst (daemon) och få denna tjänst att starta varje gång datorn startar om? Det finns lite olika alternativ som jag tänkte testa, men vill samtidigt kolla här om jag kan få några tips. En guide tipsade om att göra en användare som ej

Re: Re: Re: Suspend and hibernate configuration in Debian Jessie

2014-12-08 Thread hpfn
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Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly

2014-12-08 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-07, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: Like the OP, I am on HughesNet with savage restrictions on bandwidth usage and I would sure be concerned over what or who is stealing it. If anyone has a clue, I'd be interested in hearing it. The Grinch stole Christmas once. Reco's

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the delay set to 172 days vs 194

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Christian Groessler
On 12/08/14 09:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the

Re: Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly -OT

2014-12-08 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 07 Dec 2014, Clive Standbridge wrote: I think the Dali Llama is a Spanish surrealistic painting of a South American ruminant, noted for fleecing the tin foil crowd. You win! -- Clive In the film Troy there is a scene in which a lot of animals are stampeding, among which you can

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Frédéric Marchal
Le Monday 08 December 2014 09:44:07, Curt a écrit : On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and neither can I remember which

Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 07 dec 14, 13:08:03, Ric Moore wrote: On 12/07/2014 05:06 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 06 dec 14, 23:57:00, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: Is skype 4.3.0.37-1 working for anyone running Jessie with the following pulseaudio version? rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ pulseaudio --version

Re: Query: Deprecated libsystemd0 items, initramfs-1.18 bugs

2014-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 07 dec 14, 18:51:53, David Baron wrote: On Sunday 07 December 2014 13:30:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 07 dec 14, 12:52:06, David Baron wrote: 2. 1.18 has been the current intramf-tools version for quite a while and several serious or worse bugs are open. And the question

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Ron
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:12:55 +0100 Christian Groessler ch...@groessler.org wrote: Why don't the systemd proponents understand that someone might want to interrupt a running fsck? Don't scrutinize the reasons, just accept the fact. After all, it's *my* computer, and *I* want to be in control

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 08 dec 14, 06:59:13, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:12:55 +0100 Christian Groessler ch...@groessler.org wrote: Why don't the systemd proponents understand that someone might want to interrupt a running fsck? Don't scrutinize the reasons, just accept the fact.

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread claude juif
2014-12-08 10:28 GMT+01:00 Frédéric Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com: Le Monday 08 December 2014 09:44:07, Curt a écrit : On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Brian, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at an inconvenient moment ? Remedial action is not needed because

Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly

2014-12-08 Thread Alex
Thank you all for some useful and interesting (strange??) replies. There is no decrease in stolen bandwidth - still approx 5 - 6Mbyte/10min using Reko's settings:- browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled = false browser.safebrowsing.enabled = false I notice that there are five other

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Rick, But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. You've never had to reboot a room of 100 servers with a specific odrder and see that the second one just began a 2h long fsck ? I run all virtualized proxmox server

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Brian
On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 10:12:55 +0100, Christian Groessler wrote: On 12/08/14 09:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Mart van de Wege
Christian Groessler ch...@groessler.org writes: On 12/08/14 09:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Read
On 08/12/14 01:29, The Wanderer wrote: If that results in you shooting yourself in the foot over the long term, then that's your problem, because you made the decision to prioritize the immediate benefit of cancelling the fsck over the long-term benefit of letting it run. My experience of

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 07 Dec 2014 at 20:29:37 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: On 12/07/2014 at 06:37 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: It is a small mistake, not worth bothering about, That depends on its consequences, which in some circumstances can be significant enough to be worth caring about. Indeed. And

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Christian Groessler
On 12/08/14 12:04, Mart van de Wege wrote: Christian Groessler ch...@groessler.org writes: On 12/08/14 09:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Martin Read
On 08/12/14 08:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the delay set to 172 days vs 194 days vs 98 days vs ... Can't you write a small script to

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hello Claude, Actually, it's *always* a surprise.  These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the delay set to 172 days vs 194 days vs 98 days vs ... Maybe you just have to

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread claude juif
Hello Bonno (my bad i forget to say hello :( ) If you have some kind of monitoring system, you can monitor tune2fs output and raise an alert if mount count is close to maximum mount count. So you will be warned about fsck on next reboot, and you can delay it by adjusting maximum mount count, or

9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-08 Thread Marty
I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on modular-debian but I want to get some ideas from a wider audience. I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to compare how they try to solve the same

Cannot mount to DFS namespase

2014-12-08 Thread Mimiko
Hello. I want to mount to a DFS namespase but got error. In /etc/fstab I use: //domain.com/op/dir1 /mnt/dir1 cifs username=username_cifs,domain=domain.com,password=pass,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlmi,rw,soft,nocase 0 0 But I got this error: mount.cifs kernel mount options:

Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly -OT

2014-12-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Dec 2014, Clive Standbridge wrote: I think the Dali Llama is a Spanish surrealistic painting of a South American ruminant, noted for fleecing the tin foil crowd. You win! In the film Troy there is a scene in which a lot of animals

Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly

2014-12-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014, Alex wrote: Extensions and/or add-ons installed:- Plugins:- DivX Browser Plug-in Gnome Shell Integration iTunes Applications Detector mplayerplug-in is now gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.6 Quicktime Plug-in 7.6.9 Realplayer 9 Shockwave Flash 11.2.202.411

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/08/2014 at 06:41 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 08/12/14 08:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Frédéric Marchal
2014-12-08 11:44 GMT+01:00 claude juif claude.j...@gmail.com: 2014-12-08 10:28 GMT+01:00 Frédéric Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com: Le Monday 08 December 2014 09:44:07, Curt a écrit : On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote: I would even deign to give users a choice in the matter, [snip] Multi-seat PC and other anachronisms probably have to go away. Choice??? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 December 2014 13:31:57 The Wanderer wrote: On 12/08/2014 at 06:41 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 08/12/14 08:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Brian
On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 08:31:57 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: On 12/08/2014 at 06:41 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 08/12/14 08:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals,

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Brian
On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 12:41:06 +0100, Christian Groessler wrote: On 12/08/14 12:04, Mart van de Wege wrote: Christian Groessler ch...@groessler.org writes: On 12/08/14 09:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise.

Re: rather OT - was - Re: Latin joke, was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-12-08 Thread Michael Fothergill
Not a bad translation, in fact, but the grammar is a bit of a mess. It is (the) Latin men you have sucking, not the language, and you have more than one of them so they should suck not sucks. (Latini is plural and sugit is singular.) I tried doing this again in French but it is not

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/08/2014 at 09:15 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 08:31:57 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: On 12/08/2014 at 06:41 AM, Martin Read wrote: There is *no legitimate basis* for arguing with the OP's complaint. The systemd transition has caused a user interface regression, which should

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Brian
On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 10:51:01 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi Brian, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014, Christian Groessler wrote: Why don't the systemd proponents understand that someone might want to interrupt a running fsck? Don't scrutinize the reasons, just accept the fact. Handwaving issues away is intolerable behavior in a professional capacity, but in this particular

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 December 2014 14:15:32 Brian wrote: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 08:31:57 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: On 12/08/2014 at 06:41 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 08/12/14 08:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise.

Re: rather OT - was - Re: Latin joke, was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-12-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/12/2014, Michael Fothergill michael.fotherg...@googlemail.com wrote: snip A novus fuscinulam Debian - Devuan pulsantes apparuit absque ulla logicas rationem omnino A new (way of doing impolite things to, or, an impolite adjective to show dislike for) Debian - De Van is a pulsing

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/08/2014 at 09:15 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 08:31:57 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: On 12/08/2014 at 06:41 AM, Martin Read wrote: I like systemd, but I do wish certain of its non-coding proponents would stop indulging in incendiary defence of it against legitimate

Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly

2014-12-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/8/2014 6:25 AM, Alex wrote: Thank you all for some useful and interesting (strange??) replies. There is no decrease in stolen bandwidth - still approx 5 - 6Mbyte/10min using Reko's settings:- browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled = false browser.safebrowsing.enabled = false

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit : I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on modular-debian but I want to get some ideas from a wider audience. I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to

WebRTC - wasRe: no microphone in skype

2014-12-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/12/2014, kamaraju kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Andreas Weber ae...@worldwideweber.ch wrote: On 2014-12-06 22:31, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Weber ae...@worldwideweber.ch wrote: On 2014-12-06

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 December 2014 14:42:45 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: We broke the signal delivery in sysvinit as well for a while, when we added parallel execution (startpar).  People would ^C and the signal would hit some unintended process because there were several running at the same

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/8/2014 9:42 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2014, Christian Groessler wrote: Why don't the systemd proponents understand that someone might want to interrupt a running fsck? Don't scrutinize the reasons, just accept the fact. Handwaving issues away is intolerable

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