Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 11:16:04 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:56:09AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > If you unpack the package somewhere, either using ar etc or, > > more easily, by selecting it in mc and copying CONTENTS into, > > say, /tmp > > Or "dpkg -x". Noted.

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 09:50:15 (+1100), Ben Finney wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > I don't understand why a home user would not be using a smarthost. > > Perhaps we're talking about a different group of people. Why would a > > home user want to relay mail rather

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > I fully empathize. Constantly and getting worse over time. I just > tried to write a three or four paragraph email to a raptor > rehabilitation list. One last proofread before sending found at least > four completely missing words. :D The rule "check, double check and

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > Then you need a second system, to test the upgrades on.  If you don't > keep one around at all times, then you could create one on the fly > with debootstrap, rsync your current configs into it, and test the > upgrade in there. +1 I would never keep my mails on a system

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Forest Dean Feighner wrote: > gmail... > > I have little to add. next time try the "..." on the bottom of the reply message before writing anything. it does wonder ;-) regards

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > My understanding: the SMTP receiver will use whatever heuristics it > finds appropriate to avoid receiving spam. > > One heuristic that is commonly used is to reject all messages where > the HELO doesn't even syntactically qualify as a valid FQDN -- in other > words, has

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 17:07:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 16:18:29 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > With > > > > 127.0.1.1 gmail > > > > in /etc/hosts the conversation would go like this: > > > > brian@desktop:~$ telnet bendel.debian.org 25 > > Trying

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:21:44 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 02:53:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > HELO dotlessdomainname > > HELO dotcontaining.home > > > > I want someone to explain to me why having a dot is better then not > > having

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread Forest Dean Feighner
gmail... I have little to add. On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:59 PM, deloptes wrote: > Forest Dean Feighner wrote: > > > Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote > > the sendmail config file, lol. > > > > Shell account, of course, at the local

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Now that Trump wants to execute drug dealers, why doesn't he go after > the operators of these sites?  They're just as addictive as opioids - or > alcohol, or tobacco... wait, he should be going after them too! there is first amendment - you can't do it and you can't

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > Indeed. Exim4 is fairly easy to configure either way. yes indeed, it took me only one month to write all the rules required (with irony)

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/21/2018 03:47 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 12:05:53 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. Imagine popping down to the local pub for a

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Richard Hector wrote: > Where 'checked' was presumably the debilitate one :-) true, sorry - even double checking fails sometime :D

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 March 2018 12:32:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/21/2018 11:05 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> > >> > >> My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. > >> Imagine

Re: i386 game without wine32

2018-03-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-03-21 at 12:04, Josh W. wrote: > I have a x86_64 archetecture on my Debian Stretch system... I am trying to > play a i386 pc game but when i try to install wine32 in the terminal i get > the following message. > > josh@debian:/var/lib/dpkg$ sudo apt-get install wine32 > Reading package

Re: hs: petite question script bash

2018-03-21 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Jérémy PREGO writes: > merci pour ça, mais du coup dans le *, je vais devoir mettre mes trois > fonction l'une après l'autre, pour qu'elles soient exécutés, si je > n'entre aucun paramètre. > > si c'est un moyen propre, je vais l'adopter :) Pour moi c’est propre ! --

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Brian
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 12:05:53 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > > On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > > My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. Imagine > > popping down to the local pub for a pint and a bit

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
Forest Dean Feighner wrote: > Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote > the sendmail config file, lol. > > Shell account, of course, at the local ISP. and that's why you first topposted and secondly contributed with very meaningful content. :D

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/21/18 12:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/21/2018 11:05 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. Imagine popping down to the local pub for a pint

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/21/2018 03:38 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 12:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/21/2018 11:05 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies.

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 02:53:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > HELO dotlessdomainname > HELO dotcontaining.home > > I want someone to explain to me why having a dot is better then not > having a dot in deciding whether a submitter is genuine. And > without the politics. My

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > +100 > > To put that on stronger terms -- we'd end up with two and a half > gatekeepers for mail: Google, Hotmail (aka Microsoft) and... who > did I forget? > > The same nightmare we have at the moment with the so-called "social" > networks. > > They are already

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Richard Hector
On 22/03/18 09:53, deloptes wrote: > The rule "check, double check and then proceed" - always payed off for me. > Luckily most of simple typos are caught by the spell checked, so reading > before sending is mostly meant to catch the semantic mistakes. Where 'checked' was presumably the debilitate

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/21/18 5:25 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/21/2018 03:38 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 12:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/21/2018 11:05 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with

Re: bad upgrade libgstgl-1.0.so.0

2018-03-21 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Pétùr writes: > Hi, > > I had a bad upgrade on my debian sid. > > It seems both libgstreamer-gl1.0-0:amd64 and > libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0:amd64 are trying to write the file > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstgl-1.0.so.0. > > Any idea to fix it? > > Pétùr > > # apt

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-21 Thread Brian
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 16:34:13 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > On 21/03/18 12:07, Brian wrote: > > [re inability to connect to remote SMTP servers] > > > You are in an unfortunate position of being deprived of the freedom to > > decide how to deal with your own communications. > > [snip] > > >

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-21 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 21:29:49 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 18:35:48 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 18:41:55 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:42:24 -0500 > > > David Wright

Re: windows10 et debian

2018-03-21 Thread Eric Degenetais
> En entreprise une majorité d'ordinateurs sont sur Windows 10. Cela permet de > mutualiser les scripts bash pour windows et Linux et ne plus avoir a > maintenir des bat windows, c'est une grande avancée donc. Ça peut faciliter la maintenance pour le cas windows. Mais à savoir si le comportement

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread terryc
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 09:00:16 +0100 wrote: > To put that on stronger terms -- we'd end up with two and a half > gatekeepers for mail: Google, Hotmail (aka Microsoft) and... who > did I forget? yahoo for a starter, then there is that French mob OVH and the NL mob > > The

Re: windows10 et debian

2018-03-21 Thread Jean Bernon
Tu veux dire que l'extension Linux sert aux entreprises à mieux gérer les scripts communs et à maintenir l'obligation pour tous leurs employés d'utiliser Windows. Je reste sceptique sur le fait que ce soit une grande avancée, sauf à court terme. J'ai travaillé pendant 25 ans avec des outils

Re: windows10 et debian

2018-03-21 Thread Michel Memeteau - EKIMIA
Le 21 mars 2018 à 11:08, Jean Bernon a écrit : > Tu veux dire que l'extension Linux sert aux entreprises à mieux gérer les > scripts communs et à maintenir l'obligation pour tous leurs employés > d'utiliser Windows. Je reste sceptique sur le fait que ce soit une grande >

Re: windows10 et debian

2018-03-21 Thread Yann Serre
Bonjour, Gardons en tête que : - un ordinateur avec Linux c'est 0 licence payante pour Microsoft. - un ordinateur avec Windows + Linux c'est 1 licence payante pour Microsoft. :) ou :( au choix.

Re: windows10 et debian

2018-03-21 Thread Eric Degenetais
En même temps, installer des apk "qu'on a réussi à récupérer" revient à installer des exe ou dll depuis des sites Internet. À moins de se restreindre à quelques sites connus pour être dignes de confiance et télécharger en https, c'est une bonne recette pour finir vérolé jusqu'au trognon... Pour ce

bad upgrade libgstgl-1.0.so.0

2018-03-21 Thread Pétùr
Hi, I had a bad upgrade on my debian sid. It seems both libgstreamer-gl1.0-0:amd64 and libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0:amd64 are trying to write the file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstgl-1.0.so.0. Any idea to fix it? Pétùr # apt upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree

Re: windows10 et debian

2018-03-21 Thread Michel Memeteau - EKIMIA
Le 17 mars 2018 à 10:49, Jean Bernon a écrit : > Quel est l'intérêt d'utiliser Debian sous Windows plutôt que Debian > directement ? Quand on voit ce que donne Wine sous Linux, c'est d'un > intérêt réduit. > En entreprise une majorité d'ordinateurs sont sur Windows 10. Cela

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:50:15AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > I don't understand why a home user would not be using a smarthost. [...] > First, note that even if you don't know the reason why

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 00:18:55 + Brian wrote: Hello Brian, >On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 20:54:47 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Who is still offering pop3? >Gmail and gmx and probably lots of others. Most others, I suspect. I won't use IMAP at all. -- Regards _

Re: Carte vidéo portable dédiée ou partagée ?

2018-03-21 Thread Belaïd
Bonjour, lspci t'affichera la liste des cartes graphiques de ton ordinateur (si deux cartes graphiques - généralement Intel et nvidia ou AMD - la deuxième est forcement dédiée) . Par exemple: lspci -vnn | grep -i vga Le mar. 20 mars 2018 23:09, a écrit : >

how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, How can I view the diffs between my local modified config file (maybe modified 2 years ago) and the maintainer's config file included in the currently installed package or in a pending package upgrade? I would like to review my diffs, before running "apt upgrade". I am a big fan of

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-03-21 at 04:13, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > How can I view the diffs between my local modified config file (maybe > modified 2 years ago) and the maintainer's config file included in > the currently installed package or in a pending package upgrade? I > would like to review my

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 07:44:35 AM The Wanderer wrote: > In my experience, when (what I think Debian officially calls) a conffile > has been locally modified, the upgrade process (by default) halts and > presents a prompt asking the user what to do; the options include "show > a diff of the

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Hans
Yes, that is how I do it, too. First of all, all edited config files by me are copied to *.orig . Doing so, I know, that these are the one of the package). After I edited them, I copy the edited file to *.backup Doing so, I know, these are the last edited files. It happens, that I test some

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-21, The Wanderer wrote: > >> Hi folks, >>=20 >> How can I view the diffs between my local modified config file (maybe >> modified 2 years ago) and the maintainer's config file included in >> the currently installed package or in a pending package upgrade? I >>

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/21/2018 04:51 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 5:25 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/21/2018 03:38 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 12:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/21/2018 11:05 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM,

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Dan Purgert
Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 3/21/18 5:25 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> [...] >> >> I'm a consumer not a provider, but I understood that "control >> membership" was part of structure for a "moderated group". >> Education cheerfully accepted ;} >> >> > Not really.  Moderated meant that posts were

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 16:21:44 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 02:53:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > HELO dotlessdomainname > > HELO dotcontaining.home > > > > I want someone to explain to me why having a dot is better then not > > having a dot in deciding

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Dan Purgert
Richard Hector wrote: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) > --74MY4YRdzqYrpY64nFoecBsxLWqTbYeLg > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="W7QULzTEwHyPVYL9CjAwUAkHYtJwwuUvr"; > protected-headers="v1" > From: Richard Hector > To:

[Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

2018-03-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Rather a few items in this new release. Karen On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Thomas Dickey wrote: The current version of lynx is 2.8.8 It's available at http://lynx.invisible-island.net/ ftp://invisible-island.net/lynx/ 2.8.9 Development & patches:

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/21/18 7:57 PM, Dan Purgert wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 5:25 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] I'm a consumer not a provider, but I understood that "control membership" was part of structure for a "moderated group". Education cheerfully accepted ;} Not really.  Moderated

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 20:02:55 (+), Brian wrote: > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 17:07:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 16:18:29 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > > > With > > > > > > 127.0.1.1 gmail > > > > > > in /etc/hosts the conversation would go like this: > > >

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Richard Hector
On 22/03/18 09:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: > One heuristic that is commonly used is to reject all messages where > the HELO doesn't even syntactically qualify as a valid FQDN -- in other > words, has no dot in it. I often see this alluded to, but struggle to find evidence - why shouldn't there be a

Como crear una aplicacion como kiosko

2018-03-21 Thread Edwin Quijada
Quiero que desde que mi usuario se loguee cargue mi aplicacion como si fuera aplicacion tipo kiosko y no haya nada mas que poder hacer. Alguien ha hecho eso aqui , tener un kiosko, con una aplicacion en Java o C Gracias

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-21 Thread Forest
On Wed, 2018-03-21 at 21:59 +0100, deloptes wrote: > Forest Dean Feighner wrote: > > > Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand > > wrote > > the sendmail config file, lol. > > > > Shell account, of course, at the local ISP. > > and that's why you first topposted and

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Brian
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 16:41:25 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/21/2018 03:47 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 12:05:53 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > > > On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > > > > > > On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > > > > >

Re: Como eliminar aplicaciones de un usaurio

2018-03-21 Thread Edwin Quijada
Gracias por todas las opciones puestas. Lo primero que pense fue lo que me dijeron de deshabilitar con chmod ese usuario y apagarle todos los permisos pero la verdad es un trabajo bien grande dada la cantidad de aplicaciones y comando que existen. Pense que existiria una aplicacion como

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 09:13:43 (+0100), Harald Dunkel wrote: > How can I view the diffs between my local modified config file > (maybe modified 2 years ago) and the maintainer's config file > included in the currently installed package or in a pending > package upgrade? I would like to review my

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:56:09AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > If you unpack the package somewhere, either using ar etc or, > more easily, by selecting it in mc and copying CONTENTS into, > say, /tmp Or "dpkg -x". > $ for j in $(dpkg -L packagename) ; do [ -f $j ] && diff -u $j >

hs: petite question script bash

2018-03-21 Thread Jérémy PREGO
bonjour, est-ce qu'il exite un moyen simple en bash d'exécuter une partie d'un script en fonction du paramètre $1 et si il y a pas de paramètre, exécuter tout le script ? j'ai bien pensé faire des fonctions et faire une condition genre: if [ $1 == "contenue de $1" ]; then fonction1 fi je

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-21, Curt wrote: > > So with apt you can presumably do something like: > > apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" -dist-upgrade > > (Which would preserve the user-modified conffile with prompting.)

Targeted Global B2B Companies Emails List

2018-03-21 Thread marion . hamilton
Hi, Hope all is well! We are a database organization. We provide business executives' contact information. Below, I've included a few examples: Industry-Specific Lists: Agriculture, Business Services, Chambers of Commerce, Cities, Towns & Municipalities, Construction, Consumer Services,

Re: hs: petite question script bash

2018-03-21 Thread yahoo
Bonjour en bash tu peux utiliser case. /case $1 in / /    "")/ /                ton code/ /    ;;/ /    "")/ /        ton code// / /    ;;/ /    *)/ /        si aucune option ou rien qui ne corresponde au choix ci-dessus// / /    ;;/ /esac/ C'est la solution utilisé dans les script

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:56:09AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 21 Mar 2018 at 09:13:43 (+0100), Harald Dunkel wrote: > > How can I view the diffs between my local modified config file > > (maybe modified 2 years ago) and the maintainer's

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Jason
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:53:13PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > > I fully empathize. Constantly and getting worse over time. I just > > tried to write a three or four paragraph email to a raptor > > rehabilitation list. One last proofread before sending found at least > >

Re: Kmail in Sid

2018-03-21 Thread Comendatore
Bonsoir, > kf5.kwidgetsaddons: Invalid pixmap specified. > kmail: ../../nouveau/pushbuf.c :727 : nouveau_pushbuf_data: l'assertion > « kref » a échoué. Il semble que le dernier upstream des drivers Nouveau en sid ait ce souci. Mais à part attendre un nouvel upstream, ou forcer l'utilisation de

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/21/18 5:15 PM, deloptes wrote: But back to DMARC, it indeed works for the big players as smaller one can not easily implement and get the ratings the bigger get, however I have seen also smaller companies use their own mail servers and keep them up to date and score pretty well. the

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 04:46:16PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Its pretty painful to resolve config file conflicts in (lets say) > dovecot at upgrade time, putting EMail access for +200 users at risk. > I have to check in advance. Resolving config file conflicts during > the upgrade is too late.

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-21 Thread mick crane
On 2018-02-23 12:54, Dan Purgert wrote: David Wright wrote: On Mon 19 Feb 2018 at 18:39:02 (+), Brian wrote: [...] alum is the canonical_hostname. It is used by exim to HELO with. Many mail servers will not accept mail directly from you because it is not a FQDN. This is why I wrote

i386 game without wine32

2018-03-21 Thread Josh W.
I have a x86_64 archetecture on my Debian Stretch system... I am trying to play a i386 pc game but when i try to install wine32 in the terminal i get the following message. josh@debian:/var/lib/dpkg$ sudo apt-get install wine32 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/21/2018 11:05 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. Imagine popping down to the local pub for a pint and a bit of conversation, only to find that

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Harald Dunkel
PS: Please note that there are 2 "branches" of config file we work with: - the "orig" config files included in the *.deb file - the local config files active on the server Both branches might change over time, so manually backing up a config file to *.orig at first time modification doesn't

Error en libreoffice Impress

2018-03-21 Thread Erven Coronado
Hola,se me presenta un error al insertar vídeo en cualquier formato (AVI, MKV, mp4, m4v) en Libreoffice Impress 5.2 indicando:"El formato del archivo seleccionado no es compatible." Revisé si tengo todos los codex y efectivamente está instalado  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer, no obstante

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/21/18 11:48 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: My problem with "social networks" is that they're monopolies. Imagine popping down to the local pub for a pint and a bit of conversation, only to find that it's part of a huge chain run by a

Re: hs: petite question script bash

2018-03-21 Thread Jérémy PREGO
Le 21/03/2018 à 15:52, yahoo a écrit : Bonjour en bash tu peux utiliser case. /case $1 in / /    "")/ /                ton code/ /    ;;/ /    "")/ /        ton code// / /    ;;/ /    *)/ /        si aucune option ou rien qui ne corresponde au choix ci-dessus// / /    ;;/ /esac/

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 3/21/18, Curt wrote: > On 2018-03-21, Curt wrote: >> >> So with apt you can presumably do something like: >> >> apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" -dist-upgrade >> >> (Which would preserve the user-modified conffile with prompting.) >

Re: hs: petite question script bash

2018-03-21 Thread yahoo
Le 21/03/2018 à 16:22, Jérémy PREGO a écrit : > Le 21/03/2018 à 15:52, yahoo a écrit : >> >> Bonjour >> >> en bash tu peux utiliser case. >> >> /case $1 in >> / >> >> /    "")/ >> >> /                ton code/ >> >> /    ;;/ >> >> /    "")/ >> >> /        ton code// >> / >> >> /    ;;/ >> >> /   

Re: how to view config file changes without running an upgrade?

2018-03-21 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 03/21/18 12:44, The Wanderer wrote: On 2018-03-21 at 04:13, Harald Dunkel wrote: So... are you entirely sure that you even need to check it *before* initiating the upgrade? The mid-upgrade prompt might be enough. Yes, I am sure. Its pretty painful to resolve config file conflicts in

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet

2018-03-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 21/03/18 01:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:50:15AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: David Wright writes: I don't understand why a home user would not be using a smarthost. [...] First, note that even if you don't know the reason why

Kmail in Sid

2018-03-21 Thread Klaus Becker
Bonjour, Depuis longtemps, chez moi kmail sous Sid plante régulièrement. Je l'utilise sous XFCE4, je n'ai pas KDE.. Je lance kmail dans une console et j'ai collecté une partie des messages reçus aujourd'hui : malloc_consolidate(): invalid chunk size *** KMail got signal 6 (Exiting) *** Dead