Re: Kodi Bluray support.

2019-03-29 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-29, Alexandre GRIVEAUX wrote: > Hello, > > Do anybody play bluray with kodi ? > > Its work well with VLC on the same machine with: > > - libaacs > - libdplus > - some others related > > But i'm unable to play it with kodi, kodi detect a DVD instead of > bluray. Then what happens?

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Sorry not. While Elisp is a Lisp dialect, therefore is a language that > has been formally proved to be equivalent to turing-machine, that is > not certain for vimscript. Vimscript may not be as elegant and powerful as Elisp, but there is no doubt that it is Turing-complete (pretty much any

Re: Versiones viejas de Debian, dónde?

2019-03-29 Thread Fran Torres
Buenas, chicos, pregunto una cosa que nada tiene que ver con debian, pero sí con el mundo tiflos (ciego en griego): Esta discusión está recordándome a un concepto que inventó un amigo mío y el cual documentó. tiflobicho. Por favor, no convirtais la lista de debian en una tiflolista... Debian

Re: Disco Raid como montarlo

2019-03-29 Thread Ricardo Frydman
Tantos años en esta lista y sigues sin saber que debes responder a la lista y no al privado? Ahi lo tienes, ya creado el Raid y montado. ejecuta mdadm -D /dev/md0 para ver como esta conformado El vie., 29 mar. 2019 a las 14:09, Edwin Quijada (< listas_quij...@hotmail.com>) escribió: >

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread deloptes
Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > EC> It's not. They are written in vimscript, analogous to elisp. > > Sorry not. While Elisp is a Lisp dialect, therefore is a language that > has been formally proved to be equivalent to turing-machine, that is > not certain for vimscript. > > And the elegance of the

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Gian writes: > And the elegance of the tool is more important that it seems at first > glance. deloptes writes: > I've been listening at this BS at the university as well. Until now I > have not seen any practical or pragmatic use of this. The results of ignoring it are evident all over the Web.

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread David Wright
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 at 09:35:21 (+), Dekks Herton wrote: > David Wright writes: > > On Thu 28 Mar 2019 at 08:30:47 (+), Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > >> > "JH" == John Hasler writes: > >> > >> JH> deloptes writes: > >> >> learning emacs means learning lisp > >> > >> JH> Not true. > >>

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread deloptes
John Hasler wrote: > deloptes writes: >> I've been listening at this BS at the university as well. Until now I >> have not seen any practical or pragmatic use of this. > > The results of ignoring it are evident all over the Web. this is true, unfortunately. It was 2009 when I finally gave up.

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 29 March 2019 19:08:20 deloptes wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > deloptes writes: > >> I've been listening at this BS at the university as well. Until now > >> I have not seen any practical or pragmatic use of this. > > > > The results of ignoring it are evident all over the Web. > >

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > I am trying to convince people not to be deterred from trying it > because of myths such as "You can't use Emacs if you can't program in > Lisp". Bob Bernstein writes: > That last claim is really, really far from the truth. I know one of > the old LISP programmers from the Kendall

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread deloptes
John Hasler wrote: > I'm not trying to persuade anyone to use Emacs.  I am trying to convince > people not to be deterred from trying it because of myths such as "You > can't use Emacs if you can't program in Lisp". Sorry John, but all of this is obsolete, if you are pragmatic enough, you would

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Jude DaShiell
I started working for the Navy at an installation in Warminster PA. The experience with emacs David describes certainly happened on the base where I worked. The secretaries weren't told what they were doing was programming so they developed and shared their own macros and as a result of that,

Laptop fails to suspend

2019-03-29 Thread Sam Smith
I have an older Lenovo T520 laptop that I've ran Debian on for years and I have never had any issues with putting it to "sleep" or suspending when closing the lid. However after upgrading from stretch to Buster, suspend fails to work. I run KDE and I've tried to suspend from the desktop using

troubleshooting nfs-kernel-server on Raspbian Jessie

2019-03-29 Thread Jason
I am trying to set up an NFS export on a Ras Pi (Raspbian Jessie). Something seems to be missing and I need help troubleshooting it. At first the NFS port 2049 was not even being opened. After much futzing around I discovered that if I manually start rpcbind with $ sudo /etc/init.d/rpcbind

Re: troubleshooting nfs-kernel-server on Raspbian Jessie

2019-03-29 Thread Jason
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 09:20:17PM -0500, Jason wrote: > I am trying to set up an NFS export on a Ras Pi (Raspbian Jessie). > Something seems to be missing and I need help troubleshooting it. > > At first the NFS port 2049 was not even being opened. After much futzing > around I discovered that

Re: Laptop fails to suspend

2019-03-29 Thread Esteban L
Hello, Unless I am mistaken, Buster is still in development/testing? If thats the case, I would expect behavior exactly like that. As to troubleshooting it? My guess is you would have to be a talented program, to debug, and code your own modules. On March 30, 2019 12:56:12 AM GMT+01:00, Sam

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread John Hasler
I'm not trying to persuade anyone to use Emacs. I am trying to convince people not to be deterred from trying it because of myths such as "You can't use Emacs if you can't program in Lisp". -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread David Wright
On Sat 30 Mar 2019 at 01:29:48 (+0100), deloptes wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > > I'm not trying to persuade anyone to use Emacs.  I am trying to convince > > people not to be deterred from trying it because of myths such as "You > > can't use Emacs if you can't program in Lisp". > > Sorry

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread David Wright
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 at 19:22:47 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 29 March 2019 19:08:20 deloptes wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > > > deloptes writes: > > >> I've been listening at this BS at the university as well. Until now > > >> I have not seen any practical or pragmatic use of this. > >

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019, John Hasler wrote: I am trying to convince people not to be deterred from trying it because of myths such as "You can't use Emacs if you can't program in Lisp". That last claim is really, really far from the truth. I know one of the old LISP programmers from the Kendall

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 30.03.19 01:29, deloptes wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > > I'm not trying to persuade anyone to use Emacs.  I am trying to convince > > people not to be deterred from trying it because of myths such as "You > > can't use Emacs if you can't program in Lisp". > > Sorry John, but all of this is

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: EC> On 28.03.19 21:32, Matyáš Bobek wrote: >> I reckon writing vim extensions in C must be quite obscure... How >> is it done? EC> It's not. They are written in vimscript, analogous to elisp. Sorry not. While Elisp is a Lisp dialect, therefore is a

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: EC> Yes, yes, reflexive combativeness is jolly good fun, but EC> understanding is more useful in the long term. In my experience, if the language is elegant and wise, you can write your code "easily" and often you get better coding. EC> word used refers

Twój plan na biznes to Sklep Internetowy? Zobacz.

2019-03-29 Thread Robert Dominiczak | Sklepy WWW
Dzień dobry, zajmuję się tworzeniem nowoczesnych,profesjonalnych*Sklepów internetowych *w oparciu o silnik* WordPress. * Jeżeli chcieliby Państwo otrzymać bezpłatną propozycję w tym zakresie dla Państwa firmy proszę o odpowiedź o treści *TAK*. Z wyrazami szacunku, mgr inż. Robert

Re : Swrast… le retour

2019-03-29 Thread nicolas . patrois
Le 29/03/2019 07:15:34, Txo a écrit : > Bonjour, > Je n'ai plus d'accélération et glxinfo reste muet. > J'ai une carte GeForce GT 710 et met ça à jour avec dkms. > Je ne sais pourquoi je suis passé de ça fonctionne à ça ne fonctionne > pas. > Et quand on demande dans un moteur de recherche

Re: Versiones viejas de Debian, dónde?

2019-03-29 Thread Felix Perez
El vie., 29 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 00:08, Darío (dario...@protonmail.com) escribió: > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Thursday, 28 de March de 2019 10:25, Felix Perez > wrote: > > Revisa aquí: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ > > Si realmente se leyeran las

Re: Versiones viejas de Debian, dónde?

2019-03-29 Thread Darío
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, 29 de March de 2019 9:27, Felix Perez wrote: > El vie., 29 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 00:08, Darío > (dario...@protonmail.com) escribió: > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Thursday, 28 de March de 2019 10:25, Felix Perez > >

Swrast… le retour

2019-03-29 Thread Txo
Bonjour, Je n'ai plus d'accélération et glxinfo reste muet. $ glxinfo name of display: :0 libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details. X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Teemu Likonen
Erik Christiansen [2019-03-29 16:26:41+11] wrote: > It's not. They [Vim extensions] are written in vimscript, analogous to > elisp. Vim script is analogous to Emacs Lisp in the point of view that both of them are used to extend and configure the editor. There is also important difference which

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 29.03.19 17:26, Erik Christiansen wrote: > " Toggle relative line numbering. > function! NList_toggle() > if == 1 > set nornu" For absolute, elide the 'r'. > else > set rnu " For absolute, elide the 'r'. > endif > endfun Apologies. There's

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "d" == deloptes writes: d> Pierre Fourès wrote: >>> So there are many nifty things in Emacs. But the real killer is >>> the integration of all those nifty things. >>> >> >> Wow, this gave me the desire to give a real serious try to Emacs ! d> Don't sell your soul to the devil

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 27.03.19 11:07, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-03-26 19:27, Wayne Sallee wrote: > > I use vim. > > > > Log in as user that will use vim, and run the following command: > > > > cat > .vimrc << "EOF" > > set nosi noai > > set number > > > I have line numbers as the default but copy/paste with the

Re: Problème de résolution de nom Dnsmasq dans les navigateurs.

2019-03-29 Thread Eric Degenetais
Le jeu. 28 mars 2019 19:24, contact a écrit : > Bonjour > Bonjour > > pour des besoins pédagogiques, j'ai installé une machine sous Linux > DEBIAN avec Dnsmasq dessus pour créer gérer un réseau local sans > connexion vers l’extérieur. J'ajoute que cette machine sert aussi de > serveur web avec

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "d" == deloptes writes: d> John Hasler wrote: >> In fact, much of what we now know as Emacs *is* extensions written >> in Elisp and many more extensions are available.  You no more need >> to know Elisp to use them or to install additional ones than you >> need to know C to use Vim. d> I

Kodi Bluray support.

2019-03-29 Thread Alexandre GRIVEAUX
Hello, Do anybody play bluray with kodi ? Its work well with VLC on the same machine with: - libaacs - libdplus - some others related But i'm unable to play it with kodi, kodi detect a DVD instead of bluray. I'm using paquages from debian repos. Thanks

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 29.03.19 10:44, deloptes wrote: > One can live and do everything without Emacs. Can't resist paraphrasing that in light of Emacs' OS-like reputation: One can live and do everything within Emacs ... or without. I would be tempted to have a look at ne, except that my fingers would just

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 29.03.19 08:47, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: > > EC> On 28.03.19 21:32, Matyáš Bobek wrote: > >> I reckon writing vim extensions in C must be quite obscure... How > >> is it done? > > EC> It's not. They are written in vimscript, analogous to elisp. > >

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Dekks Herton
David Wright writes: > On Thu 28 Mar 2019 at 08:30:47 (+), Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> > "JH" == John Hasler writes: >> >> JH> deloptes writes: >> >> learning emacs means learning lisp >> >> JH> Not true. >> >> In my experience is true. But needs some more words. >> >> When you

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread deloptes
Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > If your work comprises repetitive tasks that can be automated, then > Emacs can help you a lot. > > If you have several, unrelated, small tasks, theni firing up vim and > then closing it may be a good choice. > > The trick with Emacs is doing as much things you can

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread deloptes
Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > " It seems to me that there have been two really clean, consistent > models of programming so far: the C model and the Lisp model. These > two seem points of high ground, with swampy lowlands between them. As > computers have grown more powerful, the new languages being

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "d" == deloptes writes: d> My personal choice is ne on debian. For everything else there are d> decent editors with GUI. My preference is eclipse and kate ... but d> it also doesn't matter. I simply can not find any logical or d> practical argument learning or using emacs ... and I work

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Dekks Herton
David Wright writes: > On Thu 28 Mar 2019 at 08:30:47 (+), Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> > "JH" == John Hasler writes: >> >> JH> deloptes writes: >> >> learning emacs means learning lisp >> >> JH> Not true. >> >> In my experience is true. But needs some more words. >> >> When you

Re: erreur de mise à jour pour jessie

2019-03-29 Thread Francois Meyer
Le 28/03/2019 à 12:15, Gabriel Moreau a écrit : Ils ont migrés sur archive.debian.org (mais http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-backports/InRelease  a expiré, je sais pas s'il est dispo ailleurs) On peut mettre dans /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90pref Acquire::Check-Valid-Until "0"; Tu

Re: Advantages of downloading Debian packages over tor

2019-03-29 Thread Jonathan Sélea
I do it for machines that is accessible over Tor only. And in some cases, just because I can do it. --  Jonathan Sélea PGP Key: 0x8B35B3C894B964DD Fingerprint: 4AF2 10DE 996B 673C 0FD8  AFA0 8B35 B3C8 94B9 64DD  On tor, 2019-03-28 at 07:18 +, André Rodier wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Is

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: EC> When leading software development teams, I never asked team EC> members which editor they favoured, either at hiring interview, or EC> later. We just agreed on coding standards, and they configured EC> their editors to conform.  -- /\

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "d" == deloptes writes: >> The trick with Emacs is doing as much things you can with one >> istance, avoding continual start and stops. d> Don't know! Really! Not all are as smart as you are. a> One can live and do everything without Emacs. Indeed. But will lose the fun :) -- /\

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "d" == deloptes writes: d> Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> " It seems to me that there have been two really clean, consistent >> models of programming so far: the C model and the Lisp model. These >> two seem points of high ground, with swampy lowlands between >> them. As computers have grown

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 29.03.19 10:50, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: > > EC> Yes, yes, reflexive combativeness is jolly good fun, but > EC> understanding is more useful in the long term. > > In my experience, if the language is elegant and wise, you can write > your code

Re: text editors

2019-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Gian quotes: > " It seems to me that there have been two really clean, consistent > models of programming so far: the C model and the Lisp model. These > two seem points of high ground, with swampy lowlands between them. As > computers have grown more powerful, the new languages being developed >