Re: Upgrading 0.93 to R6 - problems

1996-05-27 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 26 May 1996, Amos Shapira wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm trying to upgrade 0.93 to 1.1 according to Dale Scheetz' instrucions
 but encounter a basic problem. (Posted on May 16th)
 
 My setup - an IDE disk used for booting and as root, a SCSI disk used to hold
 the debian packages (/mnt) I downloaded over the modem so far (i.e. I don't
 have a full mirror of Debian with me).
 
 Under the kernel which came with R6 I compile 1.3.100 with Elf support
 built-in, but this new kernel can't recognize the scsi disk, even though
 it is built in (i.e. not a module).  It seems to run fine other than that,
 but it's unusable to me without access to my SCSI disk.
 
 I suspect this is maybe because my gcc-2.6.3-5 doesn't let the kernel
 image itself to be in Elf format (I think it doesn't support Elf).  I have
 this suspicion since I was told this causes problem in other systems, but
 I'm in a Catch-22 here - I can't install libc5 and the other Elf stuff
 because the current kernel has Elf as a module, and I can't recompile
 the kernel to have built-in Elf support because I can't find its source.
 
 Can someone help me, please?

I don't think your problem has anything to do with ELF support. It has to
do with SCSI support. You not only need to enable scsi support, and the
specific disk/tape/generic drivers, you will also need to enable the
correct driver for your interface card. Add all the modules to the list in
/etc/modules, upgrade the modules package to a recent version and you
should be ready to go. Check out the man pages for lsmod, insmod, and
depmod to get started.

Luck,

Dwarf

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Loading Modules

1996-05-27 Thread Sin Hang Kin
I have debian 0.9R6 installed. I am loading many modules. 

I noticed that Debian load modules listed from the /etc/modules. 
However, how could I pass parameters to them?

Does things changes on 1.1? Since I would like to upgrade after it is 
out.

By the way, does the 1.1 make use of less instead of more?

Thank You,


Kent Sin.


how updated is 0.93R6?

1996-05-27 Thread Kevin at Paranoia
This is probably a very obvious question, but it isn't answered in the
FAQ and other things I've read on www.debian.org, and I want to be sure.

Has the 0.93R6 stable available on ftp.debian.org been continually updated
since it's release?  Most things wouldn't change without issuing a new
version number, but debian's has remained the same.  Obviously, there have
been a lot of updates and security issues resolved since its release last
October.  I'd rather install a stable version than the beta 1.1 due to
the important nature of the machine that I'll be installing on, but I might
give the beta 1.1 a try just to get newer versions of things if everything
in 0.93R6 is over 6 months old now.

Please reply directly as I'm not a regular follower (yet) of this list.

thanks,
kevin
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Re: Quotas problems

1996-05-27 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Sun, 26 May 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

 Kevin M Bealer writes:
  Just for reference, I had to change the fstab to have
  usrquota,grpquota,quota in it for the fs.  After that, edquota gave a nice
 
 All three? It should suffice to use 'usrquota' if you want user quotas and
 'grpquota' for group quotas. Just 'quota' shouldn't be needed.
 
 Michael
 
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I started with just quota and it didn't work.  Using all three it worked,
I haven't tried any other combinations.

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Re: kernel headers

1996-05-27 Thread David Engel
 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The headers were included in libc5-dev after a rash of very
   buggy alpha kernel releases (1.3.7* or something like that) that
   proceeded to break compilations, etc.  Kernel versions are changed
   far more rapidly than libc is, and there are higer chances that
   people install a custom kernel than they install custom libc.
 
 I strongly ask the ppl to think about this. This is a MAJOR difference from
 debian to the rest of the linux community. It even violates the
 recommedations from Linus himself (in the Kernels readme). Broken Headers
 due to instable Kernelinstalls are realy not a concern we should have. The
 System will just run fine, and those who install a new kernel and then
 compile a program are experienced enough to know how to get new version of
 the kernel if it wont work.
 
 I mean every single compiler run in the linux community is done with the
 actual kernelsources, why should we change this and act like we dont belong
 to linux?
 
 Programs which needs the linux/ and asm/ include-files have a reason to use
 them. A lot of programs compile dependingly of the kernelsource (for example
 the net-tools).
 
 Greetings
 Bernd

This has already been debated enough.  Debian will continue to include
known-working kernel headers with libc unless and until that
arrangement proves to be unworkable.  As I have time, I will continue
to encourage H.J. Lu and other Linux distributors to do the same.

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Linux --- Windows NT RAS callback?

1996-05-27 Thread Zlatko Rek, IJS
Hi,

I can establish PPP connection between my home Linux box and Windows NT RAS 
server at work. Could it be possible to use Windows NT callback option (like 
in WIN95)? If it is, how should I configure Linux PPP and Windows NT?

Best regards.
Zlatko
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Re: elf Mtools screw pooch

1996-05-27 Thread Michael Meskes
Ed Donovan writes:
 
 Since I upgraded to 1.1, all of the ELF versions of mtools have failed
 on my system, with the error:
 
 init: set default params
 Can't initialize 'A:'

This seems to be a problem with your configuration. Note, that the new
config file is /etc/mtools.conf and not /etc/mtools as before.

 Mtools 2.0.7-15b was the last that worked; since then I've tried 2.5.4-2
 and 3.0-1. That old one, reinstalled, however, still works for me.

I recommend either trying to adopt /etc/mtools.conf like you had
/etc/mtools. If this doesn't work we need more info. Could you please mail
us both conffiles?

Michael

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Help with auto-pgp (emacs)

1996-05-27 Thread Yves Arrouye
Hello,

With a default installation (1.1 from scratch), I can't use auto-pgp as
documented. When I do C-x y s to sign, I get the following error:

/usr/bin/pgp-auto: connect to pass-socket for passphrase: No such file or 
directory

Any idea?
Thanks in advance,
Yves.


Re: elf Mtools screw pooch

1996-05-27 Thread Michael Meskes
Maarten Boekhold writes:
 I'm getting the same messages. xconsole says things about floppy
 time-outs. But I have always had trouble with my 3 1/2 diskdrive under
 Linux (this particular system). Upon booting my FDC is reported as a 8272A
 if that's of any use. 

Did you ever try adjusting your floppy driver? Please have a look at the fdutils
package. It comes with some docs and a binary named floppycontrol. Maybe you
have to adjust some parameters.

Michael

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Re: Loading Modules

1996-05-27 Thread Michael Meskes
Sin Hang Kin writes:
 
 I have debian 0.9R6 installed. I am loading many modules. 
 
 I noticed that Debian load modules listed from the /etc/modules. 
 However, how could I pass parameters to them?

With 0.93 there' no way I know of. With 1.1 simply be adding them after the
name of the module. They have to be in the same line, though.

 Does things changes on 1.1? Since I would like to upgrade after it is 
 out.

1.1 also has kerneld so that you can demand-load modules. Arguments can be
inserted in /etc/conf-modules, too.

 By the way, does the 1.1 make use of less instead of more?

Both are available.

Michael

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Re: Loading Modules

1996-05-27 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 27 May 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

 Sin Hang Kin writes:
  
  I have debian 0.9R6 installed. I am loading many modules. 
  
  I noticed that Debian load modules listed from the /etc/modules. 
  However, how could I pass parameters to them?
 
 With 0.93 there' no way I know of. With 1.1 simply be adding them after the
 name of the module. They have to be in the same line, though.

I thought I remembered someone doing this in conf.modules, but I don't
remember the syntax. Look in /usr/doc/modules/Example.conf.modules for how
to write an options line.

Luck,

Dwarf

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Re: Help with auto-pgp (emacs)

1996-05-27 Thread Rob Browning
Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 With a default installation (1.1 from scratch), I can't use auto-pgp as
 documented. When I do C-x y s to sign, I get the following error:
 
 /usr/bin/pgp-auto: connect to pass-socket for passphrase: No such file or 
 directory

Did you set the environment variable PGPPATH?  Do you have a .pgp
directory?  See the auto-pgp info pages for details (C-h i or info
auto-pgp from the command line).  It's also important you understand
all the warnings associated with auto-pgp detailed there (and of
course in the pgp manual).

Good luck
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Instructions for upgrade to v1.1 (devel)

1996-05-27 Thread Scott Barker
In line with Dale Scheetz's wonderful upgrade instructions, I have a list here
to feed into his script to upgrade a *minimal* devel section. I upgraded the
packages in this order, and suffered no ill effects (so far) and no errors
from dpkg. I then went on to upgrade various other bits and pieces in the
devel section and the x11 section using dselect without any problems. Near as
I can tell, the list below will get one to a minimal state to compile a kernel
and simple programs. To compile X and other stuff will require upgrading their
respective packages (xdevel, tk40, tclX, tcl74, etc, etc) as they become
needed. One note: be careful upgrading the 'net' packages -- I found the way
the control files are setup for netbase and netstd make them very difficult to
install by hand. I don't know if it would have been any easier using dselect.


-i /devel/ libc4
-i /devel/ libc4-dev
-i /devel/ libc5-dev
-i /devel/ aout-binutils
-i /devel/ aout-gcc
-i /devel/ aout-librl
-i /devel/ autoconf
-i /devel/ bin86
-i /devel/ binutils
-i /devel/ bison
-i /devel/ byacc
-i /devel/ dlltools
-i /devel/ flex
-i /devel/ gcc
-i /devel/ m4
-i /devel/ make
--purge ncurses-developer
-i /devel/ ncurses3.0-dev
-i /devel/ pmake


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Re: Upgrading 0.93 to R6 - problems

1996-05-27 Thread Amos Shapira
Dale Scheetz wrote:
 I don't think your problem has anything to do with ELF support. It has to
 do with SCSI support. You not only need to enable scsi support, and the
 specific disk/tape/generic drivers, you will also need to enable the
 correct driver for your interface card. Add all the modules to the list in
 /etc/modules, upgrade the modules package to a recent version and you
 should be ready to go. Check out the man pages for lsmod, insmod, and
 depmod to get started.

Thanks for the tip.

I allready enabled all the options mentioned above, including the AHA1542
SCSI controller, as static rather than dynamic modules.  I havn't touched
/etc/modules, but what shold I put there if everything I need is static?

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Re: Loading Modules

1996-05-27 Thread Bruce Perens
The latest upload of the modconf package (may still be in Incoming)
edits /etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf for you, using a dialog GUI.
It will correctly add module arguments to /etc/modules.conf .

Bruce
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Unidentified subject!

1996-05-27 Thread Olaf Titz
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Subject: Re: dpkg-ftp troubles
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Date: 27 May 1996 13:33:38 +0100
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This is really a perl issue, but...

Andy Guy  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Changing = to cmp changes the ordering I think.  My newest

= is a numerical compare, cmp a string compare. Even if the
variables are stripped to digits only, they still can yield different
results if any of the arguments contain leading zeroes, e.g. 1 vs.
02.

So it's important exactly what you want to compare.

olaf
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