Re: Instalo Linux? Digo en todas?

2000-04-05 Thread ijuanes
El dia Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 04:04:59PM -0300, Roberto Meyer tuvo a
bien escribir: 
 Hola,

 Quisiera saber si alguien ha instalado Linux para resolver _todas_ las
 necesidades de oficina, si, me refiero a reemplazar winblows.

Yo estoy trabajando (bueno, estamos trabajando en eso) pero para
centros de enseñanza. En ellos para lo único que vale Windows es para
gastar dinero en licencias y tocar las narices.

 Estoy probando la potato-frozen y gnome anda de maravillas, inclusive
 el mozilla M14.  Sin embargo falla la instalacion de 5tar0ffice 5.1,
 alguien consiguio instalarla con exito?  Y un servidor como el Ne1scape
 Calendaring pero OS?

StarOffice? llevo actualizando potato semanalmente desde sus primeros
tiempos y siempre me ha rulado. Un detalle importante de la StarOffice
es instalarla como root haciendo:
# ./setup /net

Y ya se instala en instalación multiusuario.
 
 GPA,

¿Eso está en cristiano? ¿Qué abreviatura es que ahora no caigo? 

Saludos,


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Re[2]: Instalo Linux? Digo en todas?

2000-04-05 Thread Roberto Meyer
Hola,

[...]

 Estoy probando la potato-frozen y gnome anda de maravillas, inclusive
 el mozilla M14.  Sin embargo falla la instalacion de 5tar0ffice 5.1,
 alguien consiguio instalarla con exito?  Y un servidor como el Ne1scape
 Calendaring pero OS?

iic StarOffice? llevo actualizando potato semanalmente desde sus primeros
iic tiempos y siempre me ha rulado. Un detalle importante de la StarOffice
iic es instalarla como root haciendo:
iic # ./setup /net

Gracias, evidentemente he tenido problemas con el archivo que baje
porque la instalacion tiene problemas al copiar archivos (los que
omito) y luego al correrlo aborta.

 GPA,

iic ¿Eso está en cristiano? ¿Qué abreviatura es que ahora no caigo? 

GPA: gracias por adelantado? :-)


Roberto



Re[2]: Instalo Linux? Digo en todas?

2000-04-05 Thread Roberto Meyer
Hola,

 Quisiera saber si alguien ha instalado Linux para resolver _todas_ las
 necesidades de oficina, si, me refiero a reemplazar winblows.
JLT Excepto en programación visual no se me ocurre nada que linux no pueda
JLT hacer mejor que guinDOS.

Groupware?  En linuxberg encontre un servidor propietario para linux
en este sentido, pero no se que tal funciona...

 Estoy probando la potato-frozen y gnome anda de maravillas, inclusive
 el mozilla M14.  Sin embargo falla la instalacion de 5tar0ffice 5.1,
 alguien consiguio instalarla con exito?  
JLTYo mismol Cual es tu problema?

En la instalacion no encuentra archivos aparentemente del java virtual
machine entre otros.  No se si alguien tambien ha sufrido el error o
es que el archivo no ha bajado bien... Luego al intentar correrlo aborta...

JLTHasta más bits,

Eso!,

Roberto



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Re: (off topic) Latex...

2000-04-05 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote:
 P.D: Para más información sobre LaTeX y TeX dirígete a
 'http://apolo.us.es/CervanTeX/'. Hay una lista de correo en castellano
 sobre TeX: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', no me acuerdo cómo se subscribe uno pero
 me supongo yo que será con el clásico 'subscribe' en el 'subject' del email.

Los detalles sobre la lista están en la FAQ del grupo CervanTeX

La versión más reciente de esta FAQ está disponible en el directorio

  http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/latex/FAQ-CervanTeX/

en una amplia variedad de formatos. Se puede acceder a través de la
página

  http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/latex/FAQ-CervanTeX-main.html

También se accede desde la página oficial de CervanTeX que se menciona
arriba.

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IMPRESORA LX-300 EN LINUX Y CON STAROFFICE 5.1 ?

2000-04-05 Thread ZUMBIJUNIOR
Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Alguien sabe como demonios hacer funcar una impresora Epson LX-300 en Linux?

Tengo instalado Linux Conectiva 4.0 en modo Estacion de Trabajo y tengo
StarOffice 5.1 en español.

Cuando mando imprimir desde StarWriter sale un mensaje asi:

-dvar=name requires name=null . true. or false

No entiendo ni madres ...

En StarOffice puedo montar un controlador para impresora, ero por ninguna
parte encontre el maldito controlador para Linux de la dichosa impresora .

Quien pueda tirarme algunos bytes que me orienten, le agradecere en terabytes
... :-D

Hasta la proxima,


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Nuevo en la lista

2000-04-05 Thread Raúl Miró
Pues eso que soy nuevo en la lista y me presento...

Provengo del mundo Amiga, a la vista de que no hay forma de que ya
levante cabeza me he pasado al mundo Pc'ero, eso sí con Linux.

Empecé con RedHat, me gustó mucho Caldera OpenLinux2.3 (es el que por
cierto uso en el trabajo, donde afortunadamente me dejaron quitar el
WinKK y para nada he vuelto a tener que usarlo, y donde por cierto es la
única máquina de la empresa que está en 2 redes distintas que comparten
una misma red física, con windows no he sido capaz de poder hacerlo) y
definitivamente y tras un año largo he encontrado la gloria con el Corel
Linux actualizándolo con Potato en la mayor parte de librerias y
añadiendo Acrobat, Communicator etc... y es el que DISFRUTO en casa.

En definitiva que estoy maravillado con el mundo Linux basado en Debian,
un saludo para todos y nos leemos...


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Problemas con glibc6

2000-04-05 Thread Kilian Pérez González
Con el fin de poder instalar una versión actualizada del jre,
concretamente la version 1.2.2, necesitaba actualizar la glib desde la que
venia por defecto con slink hasta la que tiene potato. En un mensaje de
hace algun tiempo recuerdo que alguien comento que la version que tenia
potato era compatible a nivel de ejecución, aunque no en el de
compilación, con la libreria de slink, bueno pues despues de conseguir los
paquetes requeridos y tras instalar la nueva libc6 esto fue lo que me
respondio: 


Preparing to replace libc6 2.0.7.19981211-6 (using 
.../src/paquetes/libc6_2.1.3-7.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc6 ...
Replacing files in old package locales ...
Setting up libc6 (2.1.3-7) ...
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libcrypt.so (No such file or directory),
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libdb.so (No such file or directory), 
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libdl.so (No such file or directory), 
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or directory), 
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libndbm.so (No such file or directory), 
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnsl.so (No such file or directory), 
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_db.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_files.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_nis.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libpthread.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libresolv.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libutil.so (No such file or directory), 
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libglib.so (No such file or directory), 
skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libgmodule.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libgthread.so (No such file or 
directory), skipping
Name Service Switch has changed in the C Library.
Running programs may not be able to do NSS lookups until they are
restarted (for services such as ssh, this can affect your ability to
login).
Note: restarting sshd should not affect any existing connections.

The services restarted (if present) are:
smail, sendmail, exim, ssh, netbase, apache, boa, nis, and proftpd.
If other services begin to fail mysteriously after this upgrade,
it may be necessary to restart them too.
Do you wish to Restart Services? [Y/n] Y
Restarting services possibly affected by the upgrade: exim netbase apache.
Current default timezone: 'Europe/Madrid'.
   Local time is now:  Mon Apr 4 09:16:32 CEST 2000.
   Universal Time is now:  Mon Apr 4 07:16:32 UTC 2000.
Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it.
INIT: version 2.76 booting

Despues de esto, el jre.1.2.2 funciona, pero no puedo desde el
mutt abrir los correos, me sale un mensaje algo asi como flopen_noseque y 
no queda espacio en el dispositivo ( siento no poder ser mas especifico
pero escribo desde la universidad y solo copie la salida anterior ) en el
resto de aplicaciones, incluida las X, no he notado nada a excepción de
que los mensajes de KDE no estan en castellano.

El paquete ldconfig no lo encuentro y no se si bastaria con
instalarlo. ¿ Alguien puede ayudarme ?.

Kilian Pérez González.


RE: Telnet automatizado

2000-04-05 Thread Alexandre Maneu i Victòria
creo que lo que tu quieres se llama xhost Tu te conectas con la maquina
remota, y ella te envía las imagenes correspondientes a las ventanas. No se
más del tema, pero seguro que está documentado por ahí...

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To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:32 AM
Subject: RE: Telnet automatizado


| Quizás no me haya explicado bien.
| Cada vez existe más máquinas no propiamente unix que sin embargo su
interfax de
| control hombre-máquina se realiza a través de telnet.
|
| La idea sería crear un interfaz de ventanas gráfico para operar sobre
ellas,
| pero que por debajo se realice un telnet a la máquina para meter comandos
y
| obtener respuestas, y las respuestas sacarlas en  otras ventanas, etc. Si
el
| interfaz gráfico se hace en C (podría ser también Tcl/tk quizás), pero se
| necesita algún programa que controle el telnet. Algo así como una librería
de
| funciones para escribir algo que salga por telnet y que las respuestas las
| pueda presentar en una ventana.
|
| Saludos.
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Re: Nuevo en la lista

2000-04-05 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
At 11:24 p.m. 2000-04-04 +0200, Raúl Miró wrote:
Pues eso que soy nuevo en la lista y me presento...

Provengo del mundo Amiga, a la vista de que no hay forma de que ya
levante cabeza me he pasado al mundo Pc'ero, eso sí con Linux.

Y has probado Debian sobre Amiga? Si no, deberías intentarlo  :o)



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Archivos de las listas de distribución

2000-04-05 Thread Danito
Resulta que hoy a 5 de Abril en la página web de www.debian.org
donde se miran las listas de distribución no aparecen actualizados
los mensajes de Marzo de esta lista de distribución (debian-user-spanish).
De hecho el último mensaje que se encuentra en la parte de Marzo data del
22 de Marzo ¿Donde están el resto de los mesajes, porque me consta que hay
muchos más ?. Pero lo más sorprendente es que ya se pueden ver los
mensajes de Abril. Concretamente el último que encuentro en este momento 
es del 4 de Abril.


Re: Site de notícias em português (outro)

2000-04-05 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
http://www.RevistaDoLinux.com.br :)

 - Arnaldo

On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:

   Bem. Ja que o negócio é anuncio de site de Linux.
   Visitem OLinux: www.olinux.com.br :)
 Quoting Lalo Martins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 04:10:50PM -0300, Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote:
   [shameless plugs :-)]


bibtex

2000-04-05 Thread Nivaldo A. P. de Vasconcelos


Alguem conhece alguma ferramenta de manipulacao de bibliografias para linux
(estou usando Debian 2.1) semelhante ao bibdb para DOS ??

Ou seja, uma coisa mais amigavel ... que ficar inserindo direto no arquivo
texto..

 Agradece,

Nivaldo


Re: bibtex

2000-04-05 Thread Clovis Sena
bom dia,

acabo de ver alguma coisa num email do http://www.icewalkers.com, da uma
passada la, eh uma das novidades de hoje.

t+

Nivaldo A. P. de Vasconcelos wrote:
 
 Alguem conhece alguma ferramenta de manipulacao de bibliografias para linux
 (estou usando Debian 2.1) semelhante ao bibdb para DOS ??
 
 Ou seja, uma coisa mais amigavel ... que ficar inserindo direto no arquivo
 texto..
 
  Agradece,
 
 Nivaldo
 
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RE: bibtex

2000-04-05 Thread Pedro A Tonelli
Oi

Nivaldo A. P. de Vasconcelos writes:
  
  
  Alguem conhece alguma ferramenta de manipulacao de bibliografias para linux
  (estou usando Debian 2.1) semelhante ao bibdb para DOS ??
Não conheço bibdb mas existe o bibtool que facilita manipular dados em bibtex:
http://linorg.usp.br/CTAN/biblio/bibtex/utils/bibtool/

ou seu espelho CTAN preferido, ou se voce usa debian
http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/tex/bibtool.html

Para editar os arquivos *.bib eu uso emacs e o bibtex.el no emacs, mas tem
o tkbibtex com interface grafica:
http://linorg.usp.br/CTAN/biblio/bibtex/utils/tkbibtex/

-Pedro A. Tonelli-


Re: [TeX-BR] bibtex

2000-04-05 Thread Daniel Martins
 Nivaldo == Nivaldo A P de Vasconcelos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nivaldo Alguem conhece alguma ferramenta de manipulacao de
Nivaldo bibliografias para linux (estou usando Debian 2.1)
Nivaldo semelhante ao bibdb para DOS ??


Podes usar o Emacs. Basta entrar no .bib e se ele nao setar
automaticaticamente tente

M-x bibtex-mode

outra ferramente poderosa eh o bibtool em linha de comando.

Recomendo que imprimas o manual e de uma lida.

Daniel


Re: configuring a base system

2000-04-05 Thread Ron Rademaker
During installation you get the question from where you want to install
the base system, I guess you should choose harddisk and select /dev/hdc1
(or in case you've already mounted /dev/hdc1, choose already mounted
filesystem and point to the place you've mounted it).

Ron

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Phil Howard wrote:

 I was referred to the base system files in a file called base2_2.tgz.
 I loaded them onto a partition and tried booting, but it wants me to
 configure them ahead of time.  What needs to be done to do that.
 
 This machine has no floppy drive or cdrom drive.  It does have a
 rescue partition on /dev/hda1 and the target partition is /dev/hda2.
 I'll redo it later with multiple partitions but for now I'm getting
 my feet wet with Debian and checking for actual sizes an stuff to do
 more planning.  Anyway, /dev/hdc1 has a mirror of the potato release
 from the rsync site, and my plan was to point apt there to finish
 the install.  The install instructions indicated a disk to disk
 install could be done, but didn't say how.  So how?
 
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Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread John Hasler
Bruce Sass writes:
 MDT didn't kick in over here until I manually ran tzconfig.  I'm running
 Potato, installed from bf-2.2.7 (libc6-2.1.2?), upgraded to
 libc6-2.1.3-2.

I've got 2.1.3-7 on this box.
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Re: Mail: Netscape and double-trouble

2000-04-05 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Mail: Netscape and double-trouble
Date: Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 12:46:31AM -0700

In reply to:Ross Boylan

Quoting Ross Boylan([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Ross I'm using potato, and just discovered the first mail clients I tried 
(mutt 
Ross and balsa) don't provide any filtering.  So I figured I'd try netscape's 
mail.

Take a look at the procmail package
Exim has filtering as well (/usr/dos/exim/filter.txt.gz)

HTH

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Re: xtermtitle

2000-04-05 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
OK try these!

these are part of my .tcshrc on both Sun box and Debian

# set prompt  xterm title
  switch ( $TERM )
  case xterm:
  case xterm-debian:
  case xterm-color:
  case rxvt:
  case dtterm:
set prompt = %{\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
breaksw
  default:
set prompt = [EMAIL PROTECTED] %~ 
breaksw
  endsw

and .zshrc which I use on most Debian box

case $TERM in
  xterm|xterm-debian|xterm-color|rxvt|dtterm*)
 precmd() {print -Pn \e]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: %~\a}
 PS1=[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 ;;
  *)
 PS1=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: %~ 
esac 

Cheers,

Chanop
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Unlimited Core Size Error

2000-04-05 Thread Serhat Artun

I have tried to compile and program after compiling finished
it gave this error when I execute it . I mean it doesnt working 


Re: zip-util w/ disk-spanning

2000-04-05 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
   Anyone know of a good zip-utility that can span disks?
   I need to transfer some files (some of which are too big for
   one floppy) from my debian-box to my win31-laptop...
 
  for hard-liners:
 
  split:
  for i in 0 1 2 3 4 ...; do dd if=foo of=foo.$i skip=$i bs=1457664 count=1; 
  done
 
 Use 1474560 instead.  80*18*1024 = 1474560
 
i guess, he did not want to dd the files to the floppies. the size i
specifed is the free space on an empty dos-formatted floppy.

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HELP: japanese chars and mutt?

2000-04-05 Thread Bruno Boettcher
hello,
from time to time i receive messages from japanese relations, and often among
islatin chars are parts in japanese encoding...

is there any way to view these as japanese signs unsing mutt and thus the pager
of it?

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Re: configuring a base system

2000-04-05 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
If you mean that you untar base2_2.tgz into one partiontion, then try to boot
it. Oh la la, in sbin directorry, you should find a file named unconfigure.sh
which is the one that say, you try to boot unconfigure system please configue
it. REMOVE it or RENAME it. then boot as usual, you might need to edit some
files in /etc by hand since you start unpack it manually :)

I did the same things with Debian ppc port! got another pmac 850 working last
week.

Chanop

Once upon a time, I heard Phil Howard say

 I was referred to the base system files in a file called base2_2.tgz.
 I loaded them onto a partition and tried booting, but it wants me to
 configure them ahead of time.  What needs to be done to do that.

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RE: two card clash

2000-04-05 Thread Chris Mason
I might have the answer. The card is 10/100 and the antenna interface is 
base10. Could it be the driver for the card does not recognize the base 10?
Chris Mason
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-Original Message-
From: aphro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:43 PM
To: Chris Mason
Cc: Debian-User; recipient.list.not.shown:;
Subject: Re: two card clash


it would be helpful if you included output from dmesg, and also did you
try to insmod the rtl8139 module manually ? if it loads(with or without
errors) run dmesg again and see what the kernel says.

i have run dual 3com 3c905s and dual rtl8139s with no trouble.  there is
the matter of the PCI bus, if you are installing a 2nd card after the
system is configured and it is in a lower pci slot, the system would
detect it first making the 2nd card eth0, but thats not a linux problem(in
my opinion)

nate

On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Chris Mason wrote:

chris Corel Linux - Intel box 
chris I installed the OS with one rtl8139 netowrk card in it, the OS found the 
card and loaded the right module which was assigned in the /etc/conf.modules 
file. The network functioned and running an ifconfig command revealed eth0 was 
assigned properly and all the parameters were correct.
chris I closed down and added another rtl8139 card. I booted and there was no 
network cards in ifconfig, no networking functioning.
chris 
chris How do I avoid this problem? Is it an IRQ problem? I thought PCI avoided 
this.
chris 
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Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Touloumtzis, Michael
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 06:58:25AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Bruce Sass writes:
  MDT didn't kick in over here until I manually ran tzconfig.  I'm running
  Potato, installed from bf-2.2.7 (libc6-2.1.2?), upgraded to
  libc6-2.1.3-2.
 
 I've got 2.1.3-7 on this box.
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 Elmwood, WI

I also have libc6 2.1.3-7 (I was 'apt-get dist-upgrade' up-to-date
before the time-change weekend arrived).  And I had the problem with
EST5EDT, though not when I experimentally switched to America/New_York.
When I then reset to EST5EDT using tzconfig the problem returned
(date reported EST and 1 hour off).   On a hunch I manually copied
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT to /etc/localtime (instead of the version
installed by tzconfig, which based on file size and diff results seemed
to be /usr/share/zoneinfo/SystemV/EST5EDT).  Then date reported the
right time zone (EDT) and time.  I had to stop/start cron, etc.  Then all
was well.  I then tried tzconfig again (and it broke the system), and then
yet again manually fixed it.  This last experiment was not to cause myself
more trouble, but just because I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

- MikeT

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Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Touloumtzis, Michael
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 01:08:18AM -0600, Scott Barker wrote:
 I just switched my timezone to America/Edmonton, which fixed the apparent
 problem with the timezone, but cron is still an hour behind. I guess I might
 as well reboot and see what happens...

I too got daylight time to be recognized by changing experimentally from
the SystemV-style EST5EDT to America/New_York.  But that is not a solution
to the problem that EST5EDT seems broken in frozen.  As for rebooting,
I reserve that for my Win95 machine ;-).  Honestly, I've seen only one
instance in 5 years of running Linux where I _had_ to reboot (the kernel
was very confused about swap, and was emitting some _very_ alarming
warning messages!).  It should be enough to '/etc/init.d/cron restart'.

- MikeT

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Creative SB Live! 1024

2000-04-05 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Hi,

I try to get my new Creative SB Live! 1024 soundcard to work with
esound (for GNOME). It seems to work only with ALSA, but the newer
version 0.5, not the older one. I have successfully compiled the alsa
modules from the alsa-sources deb, the card works from the command
line, but then I'm stuck, because both the esound-alsa and
libesd-alsa0 packages depend on libasound0.4 or libasound0, whereas
libasound0.4 depends on alsa-base-0.4, and there is no libasound0,
only libasound1, which depends on alsa-base_0.5.6.

Seems I'm got stuck. I tried to compile esound from the sources, but
make failed with an Error 1 (error message at the end, if someone is
interested).

Hoping someone can help,
joachim

===
Error message from compiling esound:

In file included from audio.c:25:
audio_alsa.c: In function `esd_audio_open':
audio_alsa.c:54: `snd_pcm_playback_params_t' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
audio_alsa.c:54: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
audio_alsa.c:54: for each function it appears in.)
audio_alsa.c:54: parse error before `params'
audio_alsa.c:88: warning: passing arg 1 of `snd_ctl_open' from incompatible 
pointer type
audio_alsa.c:114: warning: passing arg 1 of `snd_pcm_open' from incompatible 
pointer type
audio_alsa.c:148: structure has no member named `channels'
audio_alsa.c:168: `params' undeclared (first use in this function)
audio_alsa.c:186: structure has no member named `channels'
audio_alsa.c:191: too few arguments to function `snd_pcm_file_descriptor'


Re: Mail: Netscape and double-trouble

2000-04-05 Thread Christian Surchi
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 12:46:31AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
 I'm using potato, and just discovered the first mail clients I tried (mutt 
 and balsa) don't provide any filtering.  So I figured I'd try netscape's mail.

I hate netscape for mail. I don't know balsa, but mutt can filter. However
you should use procmail for filtering.

bye
Christian


Re: console-data error

2000-04-05 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Joseph de los Santos wrote:

 when I try to upgrade my console-data package I get the error:
  
  Setting up console-data (1999.08.29-12) ...
  syntax error at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Client/ConfModule.pm line 
  123, 
  near goto 
  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config 
  line 333.
  dpkg: error processing console-data (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255.
 
 This is fixed in any version of debconf more recent than the version you
 are currently using.

But they are not yet out of Incoming, so you have to get the newest there
(e.g. from ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/).

Greetings,
joachim


Re: console-data error

2000-04-05 Thread Christian Surchi
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 03:19:12PM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

 But they are not yet out of Incoming, so you have to get the newest there
 (e.g. from ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/).

Now incoming.debian.org. 

bye
Christian


Re: Creative SB Live! 1024

2000-04-05 Thread John Gould
Hi there,
 Check out 'http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux/', works like
a dream for me. I found the Oss drivers kept hanging on a SMP box and the
ALSA drivers are a little difficult to get going. Just my two
pennyworth...

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On 5 Apr 2000, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I try to get my new Creative SB Live! 1024 soundcard to work with
 esound (for GNOME). It seems to work only with ALSA, but the newer
 version 0.5, not the older one. I have successfully compiled the alsa
 modules from the alsa-sources deb, the card works from the command
 line, but then I'm stuck, because both the esound-alsa and
 libesd-alsa0 packages depend on libasound0.4 or libasound0, whereas
 libasound0.4 depends on alsa-base-0.4, and there is no libasound0,
 only libasound1, which depends on alsa-base_0.5.6.
 
 Seems I'm got stuck. I tried to compile esound from the sources, but
 make failed with an Error 1 (error message at the end, if someone is
 interested).
 
 Hoping someone can help,
 joachim
 
 ===
 Error message from compiling esound:
 
 In file included from audio.c:25:
 audio_alsa.c: In function `esd_audio_open':
 audio_alsa.c:54: `snd_pcm_playback_params_t' undeclared (first use in this 
 function)
 audio_alsa.c:54: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
 audio_alsa.c:54: for each function it appears in.)
 audio_alsa.c:54: parse error before `params'
 audio_alsa.c:88: warning: passing arg 1 of `snd_ctl_open' from incompatible 
 pointer type
 audio_alsa.c:114: warning: passing arg 1 of `snd_pcm_open' from incompatible 
 pointer type
 audio_alsa.c:148: structure has no member named `channels'
 audio_alsa.c:168: `params' undeclared (first use in this function)
 audio_alsa.c:186: structure has no member named `channels'
 audio_alsa.c:191: too few arguments to function `snd_pcm_file_descriptor'
 
 
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Re: suidmanager - error

2000-04-05 Thread Lehel Bernadt
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, Bill wrote:
 ***
 /etc/cron.daily/suidmanager:
 suidregister: /usr/lib/emacs/20.3/i386-debian-linux-gnu/movemail registered
 but not installed at /etc/suid.conf line 7
 ***
 
 can someone please tell me how to remedy this?
 
This is just a warning message: it means that there is something wrong with
your emacs20 installation (or removal). If you don't have emacs installed the
quick solution is to remove the line from /etc/suid.conf. However, to understand
what's going on you should read the docs in /usr/doc/suidmanager.
(I don't know what's the problem because the emacs postinst-postrm scripts
should handle the registration correctly).


Re: zip-util w/ disk-spanning

2000-04-05 Thread Lehel Bernadt
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, Vitux wrote:
 Hi deb's
 Anyone know of a good zip-utility that can span disks?
 I need to transfer some files (some of which are too big for
 one floppy) from my debian-box to my win31-laptop...
 thx
 Vitux

I'd suggest rar.


Re: zip-util w/ disk-spanning

2000-04-05 Thread Christian Surchi
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 04:40:40PM +0300, Lehel Bernadt wrote:

 I'd suggest rar.

rar is non-free and using split is so easy... ;)

bye
Christian


RE: digested lists

2000-04-05 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
I am having the same problem.  I e-mailed the listmaster to confirm that I
am subscribied (I am).  I thought it was a problem with my e-mail system
(always testing, always tweaking).  Let's ask for a fix.

Brooks

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 6:33 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: digested lists


 Hi,

 Does anyone know what has happened to the digested user and devel
 lists? I haven't gotten any for about a week and can't re-subscribe.

 Regards,
 Mark.

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jserv installation

2000-04-05 Thread Thomas Guettler
Hello
I am very new to Debian.
I installed jserv on my new potato.
There were two things I had to change to get
it working:

1.
 in apache/http.conf I had to uncomment the LoadModule line.
 and I added a line with include ../jserv/jserv.conf

2.
 in jserv.conf I had to set
 ApjServLogFile ../jserv.log

There was a comment, that said I shouldn't do that. 
Does anybody know why? It works fine now.

# On Unix, this file must have write permissions by the owner of the JVM
# process. In other words, if you are running Apache JServ in manual
mode
# and Apache is running as user nobody, then the file must have its
# permissions set so that that user can write to it.
# Syntax: ApJServLogFile [filename] 
# Default: ./logs/mod_jserv.log
# Note: when set to DISABLED, the log will be redirected to Apache
error log
# Debian note: DO NOT SET THIS OPTION HERE - use /etc/apache/httpd.conf!
#ApJServLogFile DISABLED
ApjServLogFile ../jserv.log

If my way was the correct, someone could add this to the README.Debian.
Whom should i contact to add this to the README?

Thomas


net card nightmare

2000-04-05 Thread Chris Mason
i've finally decided that I can't fix this network card problem. I have been 
able to install two cards, either will work on the internal network by 
reassigning the variables, but neither will work on the wireless internet feed. 
I had the brilliant thought last night that it was due to the wireless feed 
bing 10base, so I install a 10base card this morning. I brought it up in the 
internal network, worked fine, changed the parameters to those of the internet 
feed, no luck. All the info in ifconfig os definately correct, but I can't ping 
the router. When I connect the feed to the NT box with the same IP info, it 
works fine.
Any ideas?

Chris Mason
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Re: MST7MDT (and America/Denver?) timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Scott Barker
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Touloumtzis, Michael wrote:
 I too got daylight time to be recognized by changing experimentally from
 the SystemV-style EST5EDT to America/New_York.  But that is not a solution
 to the problem that EST5EDT seems broken in frozen.  As for rebooting,
 I reserve that for my Win95 machine ;-).  Honestly, I've seen only one
 instance in 5 years of running Linux where I _had_ to reboot (the kernel
 was very confused about swap, and was emitting some _very_ alarming
 warning messages!).  It should be enough to '/etc/init.d/cron restart'.

I agree, and generally never reboot. I just wanted to see what the time was in
my CMOS clock, since 'hwclock' seems unable to report the actual value in the
CMOS clock like it did in slink. Yet another bug (although I note this one is
already listed in the Debian bug tracking system).

I took a look at the source for timezones from glic6, and I note that
America/Denver is the same as MST7MDT. Is anyone in the America/Denver
timezone having problems?

I also found that America/Edmonton is the same as Canada/Mountain. So, for
anyone else who lives in Calgary and doesn't want any reference to Edmonton on
their computer, do like me and switch to Canada/Mountain (you have to live
here to understand the rivalry between our two cities :)

I'm off to file a bug report...

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Re: net card nightmare

2000-04-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 10:24:13AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
 i've finally decided that I can't fix this network card problem.
 I have been able to install two cards, either will work on the
 internal network by reassigning the variables, but neither will
 work on the wireless internet feed. I had the brilliant thought
 last night that it was due to the wireless feed bing 10base, so
 I install a 10base card this morning. I brought it up in the
 internal network, worked fine, changed the parameters to those of
 the internet feed, no luck. All the info in ifconfig os definately
 correct, but I can't ping the router. When I connect the feed to
 the NT box with the same IP info, it works fine.
 Any ideas?

Yeah.

First, break your lines at 70 characters or less.  Netiquette and all
that.

Second, have you power cycled the wireless internet feed box?  Many
such devices recognise a MAC address and won't talk to other MAC
addresses until they forget what they learned (and generally cycling
power is a good way to do that).  Perhaps the feed has learned your NT
box's MAC.

Other than that, I don't have any ideas.  I've missed the beginning of
this thread so I apologise if I missed this info already.

It would be helpful to know a few things:

o IP addresses involved
o hardware involved (the feed box, the network cards)
o dmesg output after you load network card modules

etc.

HTH,

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Re: MST7MDT (and America/Denver?) timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
Scott Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 09:03:51AM -0400, Touloumtzis, Michael wrote:
  I too got daylight time to be recognized by changing experimentally from
  the SystemV-style EST5EDT to America/New_York.  But that is not a solution
  to the problem that EST5EDT seems broken in frozen.  As for rebooting,
  I reserve that for my Win95 machine ;-).  Honestly, I've seen only one
  instance in 5 years of running Linux where I _had_ to reboot (the kernel
  was very confused about swap, and was emitting some _very_ alarming
  warning messages!).  It should be enough to '/etc/init.d/cron restart'.
 
 I agree, and generally never reboot. I just wanted to see what the
 time was in my CMOS clock, since 'hwclock' seems unable to report
 the actual value in the CMOS clock like it did in slink. Yet another
 bug (although I note this one is already listed in the Debian bug
 tracking system).
 
 I took a look at the source for timezones from glic6, and I note
 that America/Denver is the same as MST7MDT. Is anyone in the
 America/Denver timezone having problems?

Haven't had a problem with either my home or my laptop both running
potato. The laptop was just updated yesterday, and the home machine a
week ago. The contents of the /etc/timezone files:

laptop: US/Mountain
home: MST7MDT

and neither of them has had a problem with the time. The laptop pretty
much runs 24/7 during the week, and this past weekend, but my home
system is generally powered up in the morning and shut down at night.

Gary


Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread John Hasler
 I also have libc6 2.1.3-7 (I was 'apt-get dist-upgrade' up-to-date before
 the time-change weekend arrived).  And I had the problem with EST5EDT,...

I'm in CST.  If you are willing to experiment you could try it on your box.
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Can't find XF86Setup, and other dselect questions..

2000-04-05 Thread Gregory Guthrie

I have an old (pre-2.x) system, upgraded to 2.0, then 2.1, 2.1R4.

1) I wanted to move into X GUI, and have a lot of X11 stuff under 
/usr/X11R6/...

but do not have XF86Setup.

I ran dselect from my 2.1 disk (Essential Debian), and from both of my 
2.1R4 disks, but found no X11 stuff on any of them.


I tried to point dselect to www.debian/org via FTP, but it wanted to 
download 70+ MB, so I declined.
I had assumed it would only download a few upgrades, and/or give me a 
selection option of packages before such a big download.


Seems like this should be easy, what am I missing?

2) If I put in various CDroms, does dselect remember what programs are 
available on each, or do I need to roll all of them through each time I 
want to find something?


3) I see that Debian 2.1 is not Linux 2.2, but is 2.0.30; I want to get 
proper parport printer/Zip sharing, which seems to be in Kernel 2.2, what 
is the easiest way to get this.


4) On initial boot, we got a nice dselect'ish menu, what type of install 
to do, .. with a default set of packages. Is there a dselect option for this?


Thanks.


Dr. Gregory Guthrie
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   Computer Science Department
   College of Science and Technology
   Maharishi University of Management
  (Maharishi International University 1971-1995)
http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept



Re: Creative SB Live! 1024

2000-04-05 Thread sam
Go to this site and download the source for the sblive kernel module
(emu10k1)  http://opensource.creative.com/

Once that is compiled, cp it to /lib/modules/kernelversion#here/misc/

Then:
insmod soundcore
insmod emu10k1

If that doesnt work substitute modprobe where the insmod's are.

~Sam

On 5 Apr 2000, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I try to get my new Creative SB Live! 1024 soundcard to work with
 esound (for GNOME). It seems to work only with ALSA, but the newer
 version 0.5, not the older one. I have successfully compiled the alsa
 modules from the alsa-sources deb, the card works from the command
 line, but then I'm stuck, because both the esound-alsa and
 libesd-alsa0 packages depend on libasound0.4 or libasound0, whereas
 libasound0.4 depends on alsa-base-0.4, and there is no libasound0,
 only libasound1, which depends on alsa-base_0.5.6.
 
 Seems I'm got stuck. I tried to compile esound from the sources, but
 make failed with an Error 1 (error message at the end, if someone is
 interested).
 
 Hoping someone can help,
 joachim
 
 ===
 Error message from compiling esound:
 
 In file included from audio.c:25:
 audio_alsa.c: In function `esd_audio_open':
 audio_alsa.c:54: `snd_pcm_playback_params_t' undeclared (first use in this 
 function)
 audio_alsa.c:54: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
 audio_alsa.c:54: for each function it appears in.)
 audio_alsa.c:54: parse error before `params'
 audio_alsa.c:88: warning: passing arg 1 of `snd_ctl_open' from incompatible 
 pointer type
 audio_alsa.c:114: warning: passing arg 1 of `snd_pcm_open' from incompatible 
 pointer type
 audio_alsa.c:148: structure has no member named `channels'
 audio_alsa.c:168: `params' undeclared (first use in this function)
 audio_alsa.c:186: structure has no member named `channels'
 audio_alsa.c:191: too few arguments to function `snd_pcm_file_descriptor'
 
 
 


Re: zip and parport printer sharing??

2000-04-05 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gregory Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 At 07:14 PM 04/03/2000 +0100, David Wright wrote:
 Quoting Anthony Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  
   I don't use modules. I have my printer connected through the Zip drive
   and I can use either or both without problems. This is with kernel
   2.2.14.
 
 Yes, that's what I would expect with 2.2 kernels, as in the
 HOWTO that Gregory quoted. But I presume that without modules,
 you have to make sure that the zip drive is present when you
 boot. Or can you use any of the scsiutils to get round this?
 
 I'm not sure what is indicated to do with the modules, or if it is indeed 
 necessary; any more details available? :-)

Modprobe or insmod them (ppa and lp) but not both at the same time.

 I use Debian 2.1R4, is this a 2.2 kernel?

If you don't know, then it's unlikely to be, because you would have
had to compile it. But uname -r will tell you.

 My boot time dmesg says:
 
 ...
 scsi0 : PPA driver version 0.26 using 4-bit mode on port 0x378.
 scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100   Rev: D.06
Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
 scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total.
 sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
 sda : status = 0, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 28
 sda : extended sense code = 2
 sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB.
 Partition check:
   sda:scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0
   unable to read partition table
 
 lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found.
 

So the zip drive was switched on at the time (but no disk).

If you're using a stock kernel, I presume ppa and lp are modules,
and that you installed then in the installation program, ie, both
are therefore mentioned in /etc/modules.

You could remove their names and either insert them manually at
appropriate times, or rely on kerneld to do it for you when you
print or mount a zip disk.

Cheers,

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crash by installing bad libc5...

2000-04-05 Thread Gregory Guthrie
We had a working 2.1 system, and by mistake an intern got libc5 and 
un-tar'ed it.


This killed the system, as dynamic loading libraries seemed to get trashed.

We tried to recover by booting to a 2.1 CDrom, hoping to then dselect 
re-install the good libc6, but it had a lot of weird errors;


1) can't write boot sector to logical partition,
2) file error, can't load base-tgz files (after finding them on the CDrom, ..)
... etc.

We finally did a re-initialization of the linux partition, and all went well.

Q: Why was re-loading from the CDrom broken by a trashed base (root) 
install on the hard-disk?


I would expect that booting to the CDrom would be immune to a messed up 
target system, almost by definition; as this would be the recovery method.


The /target partition was basically intact, could be mounted, browsed, etc, 
but trying to execute from it would give errors like libcso??... not found. 
(sorry, not exact..!)


Already recovered, but wondering what was wrong and why we could not fix it 
without a complete re-install.


Thanks.

Gregory


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Re: NIS issues

2000-04-05 Thread Nick Cabatoff
On Apr 04, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Nick Cabatoff  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 and what I can do about it?
 
 Usually it is a very good idea to list the NIS servers directly
 in /etc/yp.conf instead of relying on broadcasts (the default if
 /etc/yp.conf is empty), it makes the NIS client stuff a bit more
 reliable. /etc/init.d/nis stop and start after that.

I gave that a try, but it doesn't seem to have helped.  It looks like
it's a question of our network being saturated during the execution of
certain cronjobs.  Time to buy that new switch, I guess.

Thanks very much for your informative reply.


Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Touloumtzis, Michael
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 10:00:47AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
  I also have libc6 2.1.3-7 (I was 'apt-get dist-upgrade' up-to-date before
  the time-change weekend arrived).  And I had the problem with EST5EDT,...
 
 I'm in CST.  If you are willing to experiment you could try it on your box.

Good idea; since the timezone files seem to be the issue (and the
difference between our systems) I'd expect that CST might work while
EST was broken.  Unfortunately I'm off today to a 10-day conference and
don't have the time to experiment before I leave.  If anyone can test
and compare EST5EDT, CST6CDT, MST7MDT for the daylight time transition
they would be doing us all a great service.

- MikeT

P.S. - I'll be in CDT for the next week at the conference, so I won't
have to worry about timezones :).

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Round Robin

2000-04-05 Thread Neil D. Roberts
Hi List,

Lets say that 100 people ask for www.domain.com, and I have three
servers, running the same service. How can I configure in a dns server
(named) to round robin this ? I mean can I do something like this? :

www.domain.com is 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.1.3 in order to
have all 100 people get different responses

I have no idea, to create three A records for this domain, or if I need
to do something else, any ideas ?

Thanks a bunch

Neil


stupid question about gs

2000-04-05 Thread maths
hello everybody

with the helps of this list, now my printer worked. but i
have a stupid question about gs: how to specify the pages i 
want to print? gs -? told me: embed %d or %ld for page#
but get me an exmple, i had try to print page 5 of foo.pdf use

# gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=epsonc -sOutputFile=\|lpr foo.pdf %5

it seem to not work.

many thanks!
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SAMBA: File corruption

2000-04-05 Thread Serge Gavrilov
Hello!

I use samba from current potato. I have Win98 client. I find that if
I try to copy (by Windows) a large file from client onto samba network drive,
then this file corrupts almost for sure. 

Can anybody help me? 

Does anybody have this problem?

Thanks!

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Re: Can't find XF86Setup, and other dselect questions..

2000-04-05 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Once upon a time, I heard Gregory Guthrie say

 I have an old (pre-2.x) system, upgraded to 2.0, then 2.1, 2.1R4.
 
 1) I wanted to move into X GUI, and have a lot of X11 stuff under 
 /usr/X11R6/...
 but do not have XF86Setup.
Use xf86config instead.

 I ran dselect from my 2.1 disk (Essential Debian), and from both of my 
 2.1R4 disks, but found no X11 stuff on any of them.
May be on 2nd CD, couldn't remember since I usually use apt http/ftp,
sometimes dselect/apt.

 I tried to point dselect to www.debian/org via FTP, but it wanted to 
 download 70+ MB, so I declined.
have you used apt or apt-method in dselect??
 I had assumed it would only download a few upgrades, and/or give me a 
 selection option of packages before such a big download.
Yes, put package on hold.

 Seems like this should be easy, what am I missing?
Easy way is to use apt, and put unwant package on hold.

Try sth like

apt-get update; apt-get install xserver-svga

After you configure XF86Config, X should run, IIRC, at least with X. Install
your prefer X11 software after that.


 2) If I put in various CDroms, does dselect remember what programs are 
 available on each, or do I need to roll all of them through each time I 
 want to find something?
I think dselect does remember things, but you have to have dselect-multicd
installed. Better way is apt, via apt-cdrom.

 3) I see that Debian 2.1 is not Linux 2.2, but is 2.0.30; I want to get 
 proper parport printer/Zip sharing, which seems to be in Kernel 2.2, what 
 is the easiest way to get this.
Since you have slink, install kernel-package and roll your own latest
2.2.15pre16 should be a good idea.

 4) On initial boot, we got a nice dselect'ish menu, what type of install 
 to do, .. with a default set of packages. Is there a dselect option for this?
Couldn't remember what is that question for!


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Can't find perl5

2000-04-05 Thread Debian Mail
Hi there

r-base 1.0.0-1 won't configure. First of all, it is complaining:

 r-base depends on perl5; however:
  Package perl5 is not installed.

But I can't find perl5. Either in stable nor in unstable.

Stef


debian

2000-04-05 Thread Michael Lords
Are there any ISO images for the installation CDs for the Debian
Distribution?

Mike Lord
UMAX Senior Tech

For more information on your scanning software go to:
www.umax.com/download
www.binuscan.com/ppumax_us.html
www.adobe.com/support/main.html


Re: SAMBA: File corruption

2000-04-05 Thread Alexander Gretencord
Serge Gavrilov wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 I use samba from current potato. I have Win98 client. I find that if
 I try to copy (by Windows) a large file from client onto samba network drive,
 then this file corrupts almost for sure.
 
 Can anybody help me?
 
 Does anybody have this problem?

Yeah but that's no problem of your Samba. This problem occurs even with
two windoses ... I think it's win98 that gets something wrong but dunno
what it really is ...


Alex


Re: debian

2000-04-05 Thread Christian Surchi
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 10:12:30AM -0600, Michael Lords wrote:
 Are there any ISO images for the installation CDs for the Debian
 Distribution?

http://cdimage.debian.org

bye
Christian


Re: corel linux

2000-04-05 Thread Phillip Deackes
sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The copy of Storm I had came with xf86 3.3.5. Also, I have found that
 a
 lot of the power user types (myself included) dislike Storm at first
 but
 once they delamerize it a bit they really like it a lot.

I agree with Sam on this one. I used Debian, upgraded to woody. I
decided to give Corel a try and hated the way it broke so much and was
brain-dead. It didn't even use the Debian menu system.

I then had a look at Storm Linux and was amazed at how easily it
installed and gave the user a choice between Gnome, KDE or both. Nice
for the newbie. It retained all the Debian features, and added some
extras. What's more, it upgrades easily to Potato without losing any of
the Storm extras - unlike Corel which is a mess if you try and do this.
A Potato version should be available soon after the Debian release.

I would unhesitatingly recommend going for Storm. 


--
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux 2000


Re: can't see truetype fonts using fslsfonts

2000-04-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 08:13:12 +, john smith wrote:
 I have followed the debian mini howto on using xfstt but when I issue the 
 command (in root) fslsfonts -server unix/:7101 the  fonts should be 
 displayed but it's not. nothing happens. any ideas?

xfs-xtt seems to be preferred over xfstt. In any case, make sure you
- add the path for the TrueType fonts to the xfs configuration
- run 'mkttfdir' in that directory (it is in the fttools package)

HTH,
Ray
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RE: net card nightmare

2000-04-05 Thread Chris Mason
Hooray! Nathan sent me in the right direction and I have internet on the card. 
It was the MAC address problem, powering down the wireless interface took care 
of it. As it's in anther part of the building I didn't do that before.
Thanks Nathan. Couldn't have got this together without this list.

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-Original Message-
From: Nathan E Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:45 AM
To: Debian-User
Subject: Re: net card nightmare


On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 10:24:13AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
 i've finally decided that I can't fix this network card problem.
 I have been able to install two cards, either will work on the
 internal network by reassigning the variables, but neither will
 work on the wireless internet feed. I had the brilliant thought
 last night that it was due to the wireless feed bing 10base, so
 I install a 10base card this morning. I brought it up in the
 internal network, worked fine, changed the parameters to those of
 the internet feed, no luck. All the info in ifconfig os definately
 correct, but I can't ping the router. When I connect the feed to
 the NT box with the same IP info, it works fine.
 Any ideas?

Yeah.

First, break your lines at 70 characters or less.  Netiquette and all
that.

Second, have you power cycled the wireless internet feed box?  Many
such devices recognise a MAC address and won't talk to other MAC
addresses until they forget what they learned (and generally cycling
power is a good way to do that).  Perhaps the feed has learned your NT
box's MAC.

Other than that, I don't have any ideas.  I've missed the beginning of
this thread so I apologise if I missed this info already.

It would be helpful to know a few things:

o IP addresses involved
o hardware involved (the feed box, the network cards)
o dmesg output after you load network card modules

etc.

HTH,

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Status of .Xdefaults and app-defaults

2000-04-05 Thread Egbert Bouwman
When, in X, are the resources files ~/.Xdefaults and those in
/usr/X11R6lib/X11/app-defaults used, and when are they not used ?

From the O'Reilly book 'X User Tools',page 385/6 I understand:
if you use xrdb, no application will look anymore in .Xdefaults .
I don't think this is the whole truth.

Several scenarios are possible:
- their role is fixed by the source or some compiled-in option:
  * they always set the defaults
  * they only set the defaults if they are not explicitly
overridden by the load option of xrdb
  * they are never used if you xrdb, even if you only use its merge option  
- their role is completely defined by the use of xrdb:
  if you don't mention them to xrdb, they are completely ignored.
  
I suppose the answers to these question are not the same for
.Xdefaults and app-defaults/*

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no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread pumpkins
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult 
Unix-clone distro to install and use...

Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported 
(as I have noticed; compared to otherdistros such as 
FreeBSD or Red Hat Linux), there are not many mirrors
for me to download Debian sources for my installation.
In my case, the only mirror in my country (Indonesia), 
does not have a complete archive. It is also not up to 
date...

Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite 
difficult to use...

If you really want more people to use and support 
Debian, I think you should consider those points 
I've mentioned above.

OK! Thanks!

I Gede Wijaya S.

Bandung, Indonesia

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Re: no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread David Wright
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult 
 Unix-clone distro to install and use...

Thanks for making contact with us here. I presume you've found
your first experiences a little hard. I hope you stick wth us,
when you'll be able to make a better judgement than people.

 Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported 
 (as I have noticed; compared to otherdistros such as 
 FreeBSD or Red Hat Linux), there are not many mirrors
 for me to download Debian sources for my installation.
 In my case, the only mirror in my country (Indonesia), 
 does not have a complete archive. It is also not up to 
 date...

I thought there were two, one of which (debian-mirror.piksi.itb.ac.id)
appears to be at the same place as your email address. Is itb.ac.id
a university there? Perhaps you could have a word with the admin
people.

 Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite 
 difficult to use...

Yes, ever more difficult too as the number of packages increases.
But what dselect disguises is an excellent package management tool.
You might find apt a better front-end to use. Try man apt-get.

Cheers,

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Install with dpkg only.

2000-04-05 Thread Ringo De Smet
Hello,

I have an empty harddisk installed, and I want to installing Debian
packages to create a working Debian system. I have unpacked the dpkg
package (ar -x and then tar xfz data.tar.gz) on my working RedHat
system. I now want to install packages using 

dpkg -i --root=/mnt/debianroot package

However, most of the packages fail at some point in the preinstall or
postinstall scripts. For example, the post-install script of dpkg-doc
can't find the script/program 'install-docs'. It also looks like the
paths used in the script do not take the relocation into account. Am I
wrong on this?

I transferred everything in frozen/admin, frozen/base, any dependent
packages, a lot of doc packages and some other tools from additional
categories. Can anyone tell me what other packages I have to extract
tools from to get the package installation going?

Ringo
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Re: no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Regarding the support:
I would not be so quick to say so. Debian is full of people that will help you 
to the
best of their ability (and believe me, their ability is not a little one) 
without ever
asking anything in return. Debian is also loaded with *goodstuff.deb. Now, if 
this is
not enough, what then will be?
Try man apt-get; and man dpkg (or info instead of man)
Good luck.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
 Unix-clone distro to install and use...

 Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
 (as I have noticed; compared to otherdistros such as
 FreeBSD or Red Hat Linux), there are not many mirrors
 for me to download Debian sources for my installation.
 In my case, the only mirror in my country (Indonesia),
 does not have a complete archive. It is also not up to
 date...

 Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
 difficult to use...

 If you really want more people to use and support
 Debian, I think you should consider those points
 I've mentioned above.

 OK! Thanks!

 I Gede Wijaya S.
 
 Bandung, Indonesia

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PCI 338-3D Aztech Sound Card

2000-04-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Does anybody have this card and sound working? Thanx
AR


Re: Help About Pine

2000-04-05 Thread Colin Watson
Oswald Buddenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[attribution lost]
 Hi I want to add a code to my signature if is there any one who knows how
 I can do it please tell me for example I want to attach todays date or
 random test to my signature ..

hehe - i had this idea, too.
i don't know, if there is a legitimate way do auto-run a script, which
outputs a .sig directly to pine, but there are some workarounds:
basic idea: a script, which completely rewrites the ~/.sig when run.
you can tell cron to run it daily or hourly or whenever.
another nice idea is to write a wrapper for pine (or whatever mailer).
this wrapper would first run the sig-modificator (or do the actions
itself) and then exec the real mailer.

This is a fairly common thing to want to do. One good way is to make
your editor a script that rewrites your ~/.signature and then invokes
your real editor. Another possibility is to make ~/.signature a FIFO
(named pipe, see 'man mkfifo'), but last time I tried doing this with
pine it didn't seem to work.

Some programs will let you set the path to your signature file to be
something like '|/path/to/signature-program', but I don't know if pine
will let you do this.

You might want to have a look at some of the Debian packages which deal
with random signatures, like signify and sigrot. There used to be ones
which advertised themselves as using named pipes (gensig?), but I can't
find them at the moment.

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Re: Install with dpkg only.

2000-04-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
Ringo De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I have an empty harddisk installed, and I want to installing Debian
 packages to create a working Debian system. I have unpacked the dpkg
 package (ar -x and then tar xfz data.tar.gz) on my working RedHat
 system. I now want to install packages using 
 
 dpkg -i --root=/mnt/debianroot package
 
 However, most of the packages fail at some point in the preinstall or
 postinstall scripts. For example, the post-install script of dpkg-doc
 can't find the script/program 'install-docs'. It also looks like the
 paths used in the script do not take the relocation into account. Am I
 wrong on this?
 
 I transferred everything in frozen/admin, frozen/base, any dependent
 packages, a lot of doc packages and some other tools from additional
 categories. Can anyone tell me what other packages I have to extract
 tools from to get the package installation going?

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but if I were in this
situation I'd try to just tar xzf base2_2.tgz with base2_2.tgz being
available in main/disks-i386/current. That contains a complete base
install of Debian and I don't think there's any setup of it required.

Gary


Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Bob Hilliard
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Paul writes:
  Same problem here. Both of my servers and my workstation had to be
  manually changed. (EST-EDT).
 
 No problems here.  What versions of the relevant packages do you have?

 No problems here, either, using up-to-date potato with libc6 2.1.3-7. 
I haven't seen it documented, but from experience, I believe the
daylight saving change is only done if the hardware clock is set to
GMT (UTC=yes in /etc/default/rcS). 

 For those who complained about cron being off, see man (8)cron:

   Special considerations exist when the clock is changed  by
   less than 3 hours, for example at the beginning and end of
   daylight savings time. If the  time  has  moved  forwards,
   those  jobs  which  would  have  run  in the time that was
   skipped will be run soon after the change.  Conversely, if
   the  time  has moved backwards by less than 3 hours, those
   jobs that fall into the repeated time will not be run.

   Only jobs that run at a particular time (not specified  as
   @hourly, nor with '*' in the hour or minute specifier) are
   affected. Jobs which are specified with wildcards are  run
   based on the new time immediately.

   Clock  changes  of  more than 3 hours are considered to be
   corrections to the clock, and the new time is used immedi­
   ately.

Bob
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Boot from CD

2000-04-05 Thread Chris Mason
I would like to be able to save my current configuration to a CDR and then boot 
the machine form it. Can this be done?

Chris Mason
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Firewall running

2000-04-05 Thread Chris Mason
Thanks to everyone who help, my PMfirewall is running on Corel Linux. Happy to 
help anyone else who needs any help getting this running

Chris Mason
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Re: lm-sensors: can't access /proc file

2000-04-05 Thread Gerhard Schromm
* Marc == Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was missing sensors and w83781d. On the P5A, it now works. However,
 the temperature values are grossly off, reporting a temp3 of 208.5
 Centigrade...

Same here. I think, temp3 is the connector for the temperature sensor
(TRPWR in the Manual). temp1 and temp2 seems realistic to me.

For the p3b you need another module, probably one of the lm*, not
the w83781d.

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greetings all and debian general question

2000-04-05 Thread Moe
Hello All,

  I am new to the list.  I wanted to findout from the
experts on this list regarding their evaluations of
debian.  The uses for my server will be webhosting,
webemail, dns, firewall, database(backend)?Any
comments or heads up info is appreciated.

  Also, I am evaluating debian 2.1r4 from
ftp.sourceforge.net, is this a good source for
downloads, if not, where? 

  Is debian 2.1r4 stable, is it only 2 cd's?

thanks,
Moe

--- Chanop Silpa-Anan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Once upon a time, I heard Gregory Guthrie say
 
  I have an old (pre-2.x) system, upgraded to 2.0,
 then 2.1, 2.1R4.
  
  1) I wanted to move into X GUI, and have a lot of
 X11 stuff under 
  /usr/X11R6/...
  but do not have XF86Setup.
 Use xf86config instead.
 
  I ran dselect from my 2.1 disk (Essential Debian),
 and from both of my 
  2.1R4 disks, but found no X11 stuff on any of
 them.
 May be on 2nd CD, couldn't remember since I usually
 use apt http/ftp,
 sometimes dselect/apt.
 
  I tried to point dselect to www.debian/org via
 FTP, but it wanted to 
  download 70+ MB, so I declined.
 have you used apt or apt-method in dselect??
  I had assumed it would only download a few
 upgrades, and/or give me a 
  selection option of packages before such a big
 download.
 Yes, put package on hold.
 
  Seems like this should be easy, what am I missing?
 Easy way is to use apt, and put unwant package on
 hold.
 
 Try sth like
 
 apt-get update; apt-get install xserver-svga
 
 After you configure XF86Config, X should run, IIRC,
 at least with X. Install
 your prefer X11 software after that.
 
 
  2) If I put in various CDroms, does dselect
 remember what programs are 
  available on each, or do I need to roll all of
 them through each time I 
  want to find something?
 I think dselect does remember things, but you have
 to have dselect-multicd
 installed. Better way is apt, via apt-cdrom.
 
  3) I see that Debian 2.1 is not Linux 2.2, but is
 2.0.30; I want to get 
  proper parport printer/Zip sharing, which seems to
 be in Kernel 2.2, what 
  is the easiest way to get this.
 Since you have slink, install kernel-package and
 roll your own latest
 2.2.15pre16 should be a good idea.
 
  4) On initial boot, we got a nice dselect'ish
 menu, what type of install 
  to do, .. with a default set of packages. Is
 there a dselect option for this?
 Couldn't remember what is that question for!
 
 
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Re: no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Apr 2000, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
 Regarding the support:
 I would not be so quick to say so. Debian is full of people that will help 
 you to the
 best of their ability (and believe me, their ability is not a little one) 
 without ever
 asking anything in return. Debian is also loaded with *goodstuff.deb. Now, if 
 this is
 not enough, what then will be?
 Try man apt-get; and man dpkg (or info instead of man)
 Good luck.
 

Sorry for this `me too' but I feel I really must endorse this comment.
I've previously used Slackware and RedHat and I'd say that the level of
support in Debian, as well as the quality of the packages, is an order
of magnitude better than those. I've continually had helpful mail from
maintainers, and at this very moment someone is taking an immense amount
of trouble to track down the origin of a problem which I encountered
(and solved for myself), simply in order to try to avoid the risk that
others will encounter the same difficulty. I'm *most* impressed.


Anthony

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Re: Unknown problem connecting

2000-04-05 Thread John Anderson
Possibly, you might not have your internet connection fully.
look in /etc/host.conf which should have in it: order hosts,bind
 multi on

And check /etc/resolv.conf which should have: nameserver your isp's
domain name server number. 

 J. Hartzelbuck wrote:

 Hello friends,
 
 Using Debian, I've installed wvdial and can connect very nicely, but
 commands issued don't do anything! Ping doesn't respond, lynx doesn't
 respond. I'm new to all this, so don't know where I might be going
 wrong. Can anyone give any pointers?
 
 Thank you!
 
 -- Chris Joyner
 
 
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Cannot ssh from woody -- slink

2000-04-05 Thread Brian Boonstra
Hi

I have a slink-based machine (running the Linux Router Project,  
actually) that I use as a server, and a workstation I dual-boot with Win NT  
and Debian woody.  I can ssh to the server from

(1) itself, using ssh 1.2.26
(2) my workstation in Win NT (using SecureCRT)
(3) my wife's Win NT machine, using SecureCRT

I can also ssh from the server to the workstation.  However, using  
the latest binaries, I cannot ssh to the server from my workstation running  
woody.  The IP is the same in WinNT mode as in Linux, so there's no firewall  
on the server preventing this.

If I run ssh -v myserver, I see (as best I can recall) something  
like this:


Connecting to myserver [192.168.1.1] port 22.
Allocated local port 1023.
Connection closed.
--

Here are some things I have tried:

(1) Both ssh-nonfree and openssh packages
(2) Removing and regenerating /etc/ssh/
(3) Removing ~/.ssh
(4) Attempting to ssh from a newly created user ID
(5) Removing known_hosts from the server
(6) Running the server's sshd in debug mode (with -d flag)

When I ran sshd in debug mode, it died when I tried to connect from the  
workstation, with a complaint about not forking in debug mode.  Fair enough,  
perhaps.


So, I am now completely stumped!  The fundamental issue, I suppose,  
is why can I ssh in from WinNT, but not from Debian?  Has anybody else got a  
theory as to why this might be happening?  Help!


Yours,

Brian


Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Scott Barker
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 01:51:37PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
  No problems here, either, using up-to-date potato with libc6 2.1.3-7. 
 I haven't seen it documented, but from experience, I believe the
 daylight saving change is only done if the hardware clock is set to
 GMT (UTC=yes in /etc/default/rcS). 

Just for the record, my hardware clock is set to UTC. I have filed a bug
report against libc6 for this problem as it's been discussed here.

  For those who complained about cron being off, see man (8)cron:

This explains why it might behave oddly once, but my cron stayed off by an
hour for a few days. I imagine this is because cron was started when my
timezone was MST7MDT, and was still behaving accordingly (that is, according
to the broken MST7MDT timezone rules). When I changed the timezone to
Canada/Mountain, therefore, cron would not have noticed, at least until it's
restarted.

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Re: Install with dpkg only.

2000-04-05 Thread Colin Watson
Ringo De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an empty harddisk installed, and I want to installing Debian
packages to create a working Debian system. I have unpacked the dpkg
package (ar -x and then tar xfz data.tar.gz) on my working RedHat
system. I now want to install packages using 

dpkg -i --root=/mnt/debianroot package

However, most of the packages fail at some point in the preinstall or
postinstall scripts. For example, the post-install script of dpkg-doc
can't find the script/program 'install-docs'.

This is in the doc-base package, though the current dpkg-doc package (in
potato) doesn't actually require install-docs to be installed (it will
merely take advantage of it if it is).

It also looks like the paths used in the script do not take the
relocation into account. Am I wrong on this?

Yes: this doesn't work the same way as rpm's relocation. The scripts
don't get a choice in the matter (so there's no such thing as a
non-relocatable package); they're run inside chroot(), so as far as
they're concerned /mnt/debianroot/ becomes /. However, *because* they're
run inside chroot(), you need a working system, with all the necessary
libraries, pre-dependencies, etc., in /mnt/debianroot to be able to
install packages this way.

This, however, shouldn't be too difficult. Given what you've described
above, you'll have quite a lot of packages that are unpacked but not
configured, and an unpacked package is likely to at least partly work.
All you should need to do is unpack all packages that have a Priority:
field of required ('dpkg-deb -f package.deb Priority' will show you
this) or that are in the base section, using 'dpkg -i --root' as you've
been doing so far (I see you've done this already); ignore any errors
you see for the time being. This will include installing dpkg on your
Debian filesystem as well as on your Red Hat filesystem, and also make
sure that everything in those packages' Pre-Depends:, Depends:, and
Recommends: fields is installed, just in case.

Then 'chroot /mnt/debianroot' and run 'dpkg --configure -a', which
should set everything up for you. If you get any errors, try running it
again. :) If you still get errors, then you might need a couple more
packages, so lather, rinse, repeat.

I haven't actually tried this myself, but this is roughly the way the
Debian GNU/Hurd installation process works, so it should be OK for you
with fairly minimal tweaking. Good luck!

-- 
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Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Touloumtzis, Michael
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 01:51:37PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote (in part):
 No problems here, either, using up-to-date potato with libc6 2.1.3-7.

Same libc6 as my system, which was stuck in EST.

 I haven't seen it documented, but from experience, I believe the
 daylight saving change is only done if the hardware clock is set to
 GMT (UTC=yes in /etc/default/rcS). 

Not sure about this, but in any case my clock is set to GMT and UTC=yes
in rcS, so this shouldn't have been the cause of the problem.

 For those who complained about cron being off, see man (8)cron: ...

Good point.  That's working as designed.

Bob, you seem to have a system much like mine, in the same time zone.
Can you tell me:

1. are you running with EST5EDT?

2. if so, what is the file size for /etc/localtime?

I've found multiple EST5EDT on the system, all from libc6:
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/EST5EDT
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/SystemV/EST5EDT
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/SystemV/EST5EDT
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/EST5EDT
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/SystemV/EST5EDT

This is the one that tzconfig installs, and did not work on April 3:
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/SystemV/EST5EDT
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1428 Mar  7 14:17 /usr/share/zoneinfo/SystemV/EST5EDT

This is the one I manually copied to /etc/localtime, and which _did_ work:
libc6: /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
-rw-r--r-- 4 root root 1250 Mar  7 14:17 /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT

Can you see the difference between your system and mine?

Thanks! - MikeT

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No masquerading in stock kernel-image?

2000-04-05 Thread Joe Emenaker

Forgive me if this is a faq

It seems like masquerading is not turned on in the stock kernel-image
packages. Is this true or am I forgetting to load a module somewhere? If
it's true, does anybody know why that decision was made?

- Joe


Re: stupid question about gs

2000-04-05 Thread Chris Gray
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 11:41:09PM +0800, maths wrote:
 hello everybody
 
 with the helps of this list, now my printer worked. but i
 have a stupid question about gs: how to specify the pages i 
 want to print? gs -? told me: embed %d or %ld for page#
 but get me an exmple, i had try to print page 5 of foo.pdf use
 
 # gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=epsonc -sOutputFile=\|lpr foo.pdf %5
 
 it seem to not work.

If you have magicfilter or apsfilter set up, you can use a2ps to do this
for you

$ a2ps -1 --pages=5 foo.pdf

works as long as you have acroread, to which it delegates the file.  If
you don't have acroread, I guess you could turn foo.pdf into a ps file
using pdf2ps and then use the same command as above on foo.ps

a2ps has the added advantage of being able to use it for almost any type
of file (jpg, dvi, ...)

HTH,
Chris Gray

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softly in the brimming bowl.


Re: no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 07:09:04PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite 
  difficult to use...
 
 Yes, ever more difficult too as the number of packages increases.
 But what dselect disguises is an excellent package management tool.
 You might find apt a better front-end to use. Try man apt-get.

They aren't equivalent.  Apt is fine for installing programs, but for
*deciding* what to install, it's useless.  I find myself using
dselect to search package descriptions, then installing through apt. 
Sometimes I use lynx or links and search the Debian web site for the
program name, then install with apt.  Either is unnecessarily clumsy.
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Re: no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
That is a good point. May be it would be a good idea to implement some kind of 
way to
have a visual field of packages available, with short explanation and link to 
wider
explanation (or link-option-command), accesible from within the system, without
needing to surf the debian site. Especially when you are new to UNIX, or the 
packages
are new, the task of deciding what you want and/or need may be too much.

Carl Fink wrote:

 They aren't equivalent.  Apt is fine for installing programs, but for
 *deciding* what to install, it's useless.  I find myself using
 dselect to search package descriptions, then installing through apt.
 Sometimes I use lynx or links and search the Debian web site for the
 program name, then install with apt.  Either is unnecessarily clumsy.
 --
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 Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
 http://dm.net

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Re: Round Robin

2000-04-05 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:38:18 +0200, Neil D. Roberts writes:
www.domain.com is 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.1.3 in order to
have all 100 people get different responses

I have no idea, to create three A records for this domain, or if I need
to do something else, any ideas ?

Just 3 A-records will do fine

bash-2.03$ host smtp.austria.eu.net
smtp.austria.eu.net A   193.81.13.2
smtp.austria.eu.net A   193.154.160.146
smtp.austria.eu.net A   193.81.83.3
smtp.austria.eu.net A   193.154.160.103

Don´t forget the appropriate PTR-records.

More interesting (at least for me) would be trying it with CNAMEs, would that 
be valid?

hth,
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Re: Help About Pine

2000-04-05 Thread Adam Shand

 Hi I want to add a code to my signature if is there any one who knows
 how I can do it please tell me for example I want to attach todays date
 or random test to my signature ..

i haven't done this but it should be relatively trivial to use the
'sending-filter' feature of pine.  write a perl script which takes the
contents of your composed message, tacks on your dynamic signiture file and
outputs the contents back to pine.

this is how all the pgp/gpg filters for pine work so i know it's possible to
do this way, i've just never done it so i'm not sure exactly what pine's
requirements are and what it provides as input for the script and expects as
output.

adam.


installing two NIC's

2000-04-05 Thread Beavis



i am running into a problem of conflictng IRQ's my 
next step was to change a few settings in my BIOS, but since it is an older 
system, it doesn't have too many options availablei also went as far as to 
update the firmware on the motherboard.

does anyone know ofaDOS utilities to manually configure your NICs IO addressand 
IRQ's?


thankx --beavis--

using 
intel pro 10/100 
--eepro100 works great!!
linksys 10/100 -- trying to use ne2k-pci 


getting following error init_module: Device or 
resource busy

that was what prompted me to check the IRQ's, the 
KDE system mangler states that indeed, both cards are assigned the same IRQ, 
10. so that seems to be my problem...

any easier work arounds would be greatly 
appreciated...

--beavis--



Oops. New kernel will not come up

2000-04-05 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi,

  I just update the kernel images to 2.2.14-3 on my
  potato box and box will not come up.

  All I see after reboot is:

  Loading Linux.


  and that is it.  

  Could someone please help?  TIA!

---
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laptop needs Accel-X, how to best circumvent dependencies

2000-04-05 Thread isetford
I have a Toshiba Tecra 8100. I have installed Accelerated-X v5.03 to achieve an 
X-windows environment. I am having some difficulty keeping the XFree86 packages 
at bay within dselect. I have loaded equivs but I can't accomplish what I want. 

I would like to be able to install the gtk1.2-dev and other various X/GTK 
related programs. The problem is that all of these have dependencies of xlib6g, 
xfree86-common, etc. and won't install. I have tried using Q, D and = 
commands in dselect to no avail.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Does anyone else have an alternative X-server 
installed? How did you circumvent the dependencies?

I don't want to start a flame war between Xfree86 and Accel-X or free software 
versus pay software. I would just like to have my laptop working efficiently.

Please copy me in on your reply since I am not subsbribed to the list.

Thank you.

-Ian


Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Bruce Sass
On 5 Apr 2000, Bob Hilliard wrote:
 I haven't seen it documented, but from experience, I believe the
 daylight saving change is only done if the hardware clock is set to
 GMT (UTC=yes in /etc/default/rcS). 

That would be a bug, if it was true.
GMT has nothing to do with daylight saving time, and the dst correction
needs to be done whether you are using GMT or not.


- Bruce


Re: no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread Phillip Deackes
Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is a good point. May be it would be a good idea to implement some
 kind of way to
 have a visual field of packages available, with short explanation and
 link to wider
 explanation (or link-option-command), accesible from within the
 system, without
 needing to surf the debian site. Especially when you are new to UNIX,
 or the packages
 are new, the task of deciding what you want and/or need may be too
 much.

You might like to look at the Storm Linux Package Manager - it is a
front-end to apt and allows one to browse and search installed *and
available* packages and see the descriptions etc.. The nice thing I
think is that once you tell it to process your selections it closes and
brings up an xterm where it runs apt-get. Once the packages have been
installed and configured, it asks if you want the downloaded packages
deleted, then returns you to the GUI. Very nice.

If you want to have a look, get it from:

ftp://ftp.stormix.com/storm/dists/rain/main/binary-i386/sl-stormpkg_1.0-1_i386.deb

Better still, add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list and you should be
able to request it using apt-get:

deb ftp://ftp.stormix.com/storm rain main contrib

If you are using Potato, replace 'rain' with 'potato'

I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work on a standard Debian distro.


--
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Using Storm Linux 2000


Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread John Hasler
Bob Hilliard writes:
 I haven't seen it documented, but from experience, I believe the daylight
 saving change is only done if the hardware clock is set to GMT (UTC=yes
 in /etc/default/rcS).

Mine is.
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Re: laptop needs Accel-X, how to best circumvent dependencies

2000-04-05 Thread Robb Aley Allan
on 4/5/00 5:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a Toshiba Tecra 8100. I have installed Accelerated-X v5.03 to achieve
 an X-windows environment. I am having some difficulty keeping the XFree86
 packages at bay within dselect. I have loaded equivs but I can't accomplish
 what I want. 
 
 I would like to be able to install the gtk1.2-dev and other various X/GTK
 related programs. The problem is that all of these have dependencies of
 xlib6g, xfree86-common, etc. and won't install. I have tried using Q, D
 and = commands in dselect to no avail.
 
 Is anyone else experiencing this? Does anyone else have an alternative
 X-server installed? How did you circumvent the dependencies?
 
 I don't want to start a flame war between Xfree86 and Accel-X or free software
 versus pay software. I would just like to have my laptop working efficiently.
 

You don't really need to worry about keeping the XFree86 packages at bay.
Just install them and let dependencies get handled by dselect. All you need
to run Acc-X is to:

- make sure /etc/Xaccel.ini exists (run Xsetup)

- make sure /usr/bin/X11R6/Xaccel/ and /usr/lib/X11R6/Xaccel exist (from the
installation)

- make sure that the symlink /usr/X11R6/bin/X points to
/usr/X11R6/bin/Xaccel (you may have to reset this periodically as new XFree
packages are installed and overwrite it).


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Re: Oops. New kernel will not come up

2000-04-05 Thread eric k. wolven
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Tim:

It may be a buggy kernel.  dpkg -i old kernel-image (the one that works).  
Try downloading the k.-s.-2.2.14-4 and configuring from there.

I had problems with the k-s-2.2.14-3.

Eric Wolven 


 Timothy == Timothy C Phan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Timothy Hi, I just update the kernel images to 2.2.14-3 on my
Timothy potato box and box will not come up.

Timothy   All I see after reboot is:

Timothy   Loading Linux.


Timothy   and that is it.

Timothy   Could someone please help?  TIA!

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Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On 5 Apr 2000, Bob Hilliard wrote:
  I haven't seen it documented, but from experience, I believe the
  daylight saving change is only done if the hardware clock is set to
  GMT (UTC=yes in /etc/default/rcS). 
 
 That would be a bug, if it was true.
 GMT has nothing to do with daylight saving time, and the dst correction
 needs to be done whether you are using GMT or not.

Umm, I'm afraid that's not the bug. Both my systems dual-boot to
Windows and so both have the hardware clocks set to local time and
both are running in the Mountain time zone, with DST, without a
hitch.

Gary


Looking for a good mail program

2000-04-05 Thread Hilary Hertzoff

As a rule I'm very happy reading my mail in Pine through a shell
account.  However occasionally I receive an attachment that I need to use
another program to view.  Can somebody recommend a good mail program
similar to pine that can handle attachments?  I don't want anything too
fancy.

Also do I need a separate program to fetch my mail off the server and if
so which do you recommend?  

Having all of the software available in the Debian distribution is lovely
but I'm finding it difficult to choose from several different programs
that do the same thing, especially since the names don't usually mean
anything to me.

Thanks,
Hilary


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  by Peter McCarty


Re: no wonder...

2000-04-05 Thread Vitux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
 Unix-clone distro to install and use...
 
 Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
 (as I have noticed; compared to otherdistros such as
 FreeBSD or Red Hat Linux), there are not many mirrors
 for me to download Debian sources for my installation.
 In my case, the only mirror in my country (Indonesia),
 does not have a complete archive. It is also not up to
 date...
 
 Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
 difficult to use...
 
 If you really want more people to use and support
 Debian, I think you should consider those points
 I've mentioned above.
 
 OK! Thanks!
 
 I Gede Wijaya S.
 
 Bandung, Indonesia
 
 PS: Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Not a very constructive way of posting. If you want help, be
specific about your problems, give as much info as possible,
and we'll try to help.
If you're seriously unhappy with Debian, there's lots of
other distro's around. They say RedHat is very userfriendly
(haven't tried it).
This is not the place for letting out bull like the
jimbo above.
BTW, maybe a cd with debian is the thing for you? they're
not that expensive.
(BTW: I used an american mirror for my installation, and it
went absolutely smooth. I get fine transfer rates, even
though I'm in Denmark.)
Yes, dselect can be a newbie-pain, but if you go easy, and
think, and ask constructive q's on the list, even newbies
can get it working. Recently a newbie myself.
hth
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Re: Looking for a good mail program

2000-04-05 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Hilary!

On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, Hilary Hertzoff wrote:

 As a rule I'm very happy reading my mail in Pine through a shell
 account.  However occasionally I receive an attachment that I need to use
 another program to view.  Can somebody recommend a good mail program
 similar to pine that can handle attachments?  I don't want anything too
 fancy.

mutt is a very good MUA.

 Also do I need a separate program to fetch my mail off the server and if
 so which do you recommend?  

fetchmail is the tool of choice here.

HTH

yours,
peter

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Re: Looking for a good mail program

2000-04-05 Thread William T Wilson
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Hilary Hertzoff wrote:

 As a rule I'm very happy reading my mail in Pine through a shell
 account.  However occasionally I receive an attachment that I need to
 use another program to view.  Can somebody recommend a good mail
 program similar to pine that can handle attachments?  I don't want

I'm not sure what you are looking for.  All reasonable versions of Pine
can save attachments, and recent versions of Pine can cope with attached
HTML messages, too.  As for attached VCards, graphics, movies, Word
documents... I'm not sure what you want your mail program to do with them.
Pine allows you to associate external viewers with particular MIME types,
which is I think about the best you're going to get.

In other words... I don't know what features exactly Pine is lacking. :}


Re: installing two NIC's

2000-04-05 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 14:20:54 PDT, Beavis writes:
using=20
intel pro 10/100 --eepro100  works great!!

is that an ISA or PCI card?

if it´s the former, you could set IRQ 10 to used in the bios,
every bios of a pci-capable machine that I know of can do either
that or assign a fixed irq to the pci-slot.

if they´re both PCI-cards, try swapping them around, best trick
for me is to get the graphics card between the nic´s.

linksys 10/100  -- trying to use ne2k-pci=20

if you´re not sure if that´s the correct driver look at
´cat /proc/pci´

and, please, no html in mails.

hth,
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Re: Looking for a good mail program

2000-04-05 Thread Brendan Cully
On Wednesday, 05 April 2000 at 18:18, Hilary Hertzoff wrote:
 
 As a rule I'm very happy reading my mail in Pine through a shell
 account.  However occasionally I receive an attachment that I need to use
 another program to view.  Can somebody recommend a good mail program
 similar to pine that can handle attachments?  I don't want anything too
 fancy.

you want mutt! mime attachment handling is one of its trademark
features (pgp/gpg integration is probably the other one it's most
famous for). Plus it has configurable colouring and excellent
sorting/threading (and lots more). it probably resembles elm more than
pine, but shouldn't be too confusing for you. in fact I believe there
is a pine-emulating configuration file floating around...

 Also do I need a separate program to fetch my mail off the server and if
 so which do you recommend?  

depends. mutt has some limited builtin POP support, but it'd be better
to use fetchmail. If you want to use IMAP, mutt supports that too, and
as of the upcoming 1.2 release should do it rather well (I'm biased,
since I've written most of the new IMAP code).

 Having all of the software available in the Debian distribution is lovely
 but I'm finding it difficult to choose from several different programs
 that do the same thing, especially since the names don't usually mean
 anything to me.

most of the time, the names are deliberately meaningless. you can
really only experiment or get other's opinions. that's hacker culture
for you.

-Brendan

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Re: MST7MDT timezone broken?

2000-04-05 Thread Scott Barker
Following up on my own original post, I notice that there are at least 4
different versions of MST7MDT on my system, as shown by a
'md5sum `locate MST7MDT`':

4a92b448aa22b9a1884b066cb3436477  /usr/share/zoneinfo/MST7MDT
4a92b448aa22b9a1884b066cb3436477  /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/MST7MDT
1ac36e9eb32fbeb87af9921ba5b58850  /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/SystemV/MST7MDT
8fb05b91528a1daf65f13b3d3a651bd8  /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/MST7MDT
b4885b6a643d6a8c6e5e1f7de5180650  /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/SystemV/MST7MDT
1ac36e9eb32fbeb87af9921ba5b58850  /usr/share/zoneinfo/SystemV/MST7MDT

I can't find any information about what the differences would be. Does anyone
know? For the record, these work:

4a92b448aa22b9a1884b066cb3436477  /usr/share/zoneinfo/MST7MDT
4a92b448aa22b9a1884b066cb3436477  /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/MST7MDT
8fb05b91528a1daf65f13b3d3a651bd8  /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/MST7MDT

And these don't:

1ac36e9eb32fbeb87af9921ba5b58850  /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix/SystemV/MST7MDT
b4885b6a643d6a8c6e5e1f7de5180650  /usr/share/zoneinfo/right/SystemV/MST7MDT
1ac36e9eb32fbeb87af9921ba5b58850  /usr/share/zoneinfo/SystemV/MST7MDT

It would seem all the 'SystemV' timezones are broken, at least for
MST7MDT. I'm going to update my bug report now.

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