RE: imagen potato?
ftp://ftp.kando.hu ftp://ceu.fi.udc.es encontraras imagenes .raw, pero le cambias la extensión y yastá TA LUEG. Quimi - Mi petición de drivers para Linux es la nº 39921 (Pasate por http://www.libranet.com/petition.html ;-) en donde puedo conseguir las imagenes iso de potato? desde ya, muchas gracias daniel
RE: prob. con mesajes a la lista
Esto era porque el servidor de correo de tu ISP era un relay abierto, que fue (ab)usado para enviar correo comercial no solicitado (SPAM) desde él. Debian tiene instalados 2 sistemas anti-spam (RBL y RSS). Cuando un usuario recibe SPAM lo reporta, indicando su procedencia. Seguidamente se avisa al administrador de ese sistema para que solucione el problema. Si no lo hace en un determinado plazo (una semana, creo) se bloquea el correo procedente de él. En tu caso parece que tu administrador tardó en hacerlo, y por ello durante un tiempo no se permitió la entrada de mensajes procedentes de tu ISP, incluyendo los tuyos. Este es el historial de tu servidor de correo en la lista RSS: 207.3.115.139 is NOT currently on the RSS list. RSS Entry/Removal History: Added 207.3.115.139 Wed Jan 5 10:49:37 PST 2000 (relay) Removed 207.3.115.139 Fri Jun 2 19:52:56 PDT 2000 (manual) Added 207.3.115.139 Sun Jun 11 01:47:26 PDT 2000 (relay) Removed 207.3.115.139 Wed Jul 12 19:07:06 PDT 2000 (manual) Un saludo. -Mensaje original- De: daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: lunes 17 de julio de 2000 19:09 Para: gdebian Asunto: prob. con mesajes a la lista hace unas semanas atras, cuando queria mandar un mensaje a la lista, el mensaje rebotaba, con lo que aparece mas abajo. alguien me podria comentar +/- cual era el problema? era por mi provedor de correo? o el serv. de la lista? gracias daniel (como ven, ya no tengo dicho problema) The original message was received at Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:39:23 GMT from r200-2-36-194.adinet.com.uy [200.2.36.194] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to murphy.debian.org.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550- Mail Rejected. 550- Your host's name mail.montevideo.com.uy 550- or its IP address 207.3.115.139 550- corresponds to an internet site that has been 550- unsuccessful in preventing its customers from 550- sending e-mail spam. The administration of 550- this site has chosen to block all e-mail from 550- suspected spammers. Please refer this to your 550- system manager. 550- 550- If you are indeed sending unsolicited e-mail 550- advertising, please remove all addresses at this 550- site from your mailing list, and please make 550- sure that addresses at this site will not be 550- added to your mailing list again in the future. 550- 550- Please have your system manager contact Debian 550- at if he or she feels your site 550- was unjustly blocked from mail delivery. 550 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: KDE KPPP
Pues en mi Corel venía con el KDE, pero rápidamente dejé de usar KDE en favor de WindowMaker. Con Debian puedes configurar facilmente las conexiones PPP lanzando pppconfig desde la shell. -Mensaje original- De: Diego Mariani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: lunes 17 de julio de 2000 14:25 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: KDE KPPP Buenasss El kppp se instala con el KDE o debo bajarlo de algun lado? Gracias. Diego -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Como escribir documentacion para man
Andres Seco Hernandez wrote: Estoy perdido. Creo que con el sgml se pueden hacer paginas man. He usado sgml para escribir howtos, pero no tengo ni idea ni donde hay informacion de como hacer paginas man. ¿Hay algun otro método? Tengo que hacer 2 para un programa nuevo que tengo sin documentar. Después de ensayar vários métodos como sgml, escribir directamente en troff, etc, llegué a la conclusión que la mejor forma de hacer páginas de manual es usando perl. No es nada complicado ni es necesario saber nada de perl. El perl viene con un utilitario llamado pod2man (además de pod2html, pod2tex y pod2text). pod quiere decir Plain Old Documentation. Por ejemplo, para escribir la página de manual de un programa que me convierte un glosario en código sgml para docbook (programa dict2docbook, ftp://quark/pub/orca/) escribí lo siguente en un fichero (ejemplo-pod): =head1 NAME dict2docbook - Creates a SGML (DocBook) version of glosario.dict =head1 SYNOPSIS Sdict2docbook filename =head1 DESCRIPTION This programs reads the glosario.dict text file and creates a SGML version of it, conforming to the DocBook DTD. =head1 AUTHOR Jaime Villate Elt[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt. =cut Después he hecho: pod2man ejemplo-pod ejemplo-pod.1 para crear la página de manual, que después puede ser leída con: man -l ejemplo-pod.1 La sintaxis completa del pod está explicada en man perlpod, y es bastante simple. El único paquete que necesitas es perl (o sea, hoy en día en Debian, perl-5.004 o perl-5.005). Si el programa que quieres documentar está escrito en perl, el código pod puede estar dentro del mismo programa y puede servir tanto para documentar el código fuente, como para crear la documentación adicional. Saludos, Jaime Villate
Re: Actualizar kernel
On Sat, 15 Jul 2000, luis wrote: He actualizado mi kernel al que viene con potato a traves de apt-get install kernel-image , se ha actualizado bien, pero no reconoce la impresora ¿ A qué es debido ? Como ya te han respondido Santiago y otros, tu problema puede ser que estas buscando la impresora en el dispositivo errado; pero si el kernel ni siquiera te detecta la impresora en la puerta paralela (busca parport0 en la salida de dmesg) tu problema puede ser que compilaste mal el kernel. Te envio copia de un mensaje que envié a esta lista en Marzo: Jaime E. Villate wrote: Emilio Hernández Martín wrote: Compilé el kernel con soporte para impresión por el puerto paralelo y probé con /dev/lp1 y tb con /dev/lp0 pero seguía diciendo (al mirar la cola de impresión) que no podía abrir el dispositivo, que la operación no está soportada. Luego miré los mensajes de arranque y vi que ponía: lp: driver loaded but no devices found. Me parece que puede ser que no has compilado el kernel bien. Antiguamente bastaba con activar una opción para la impresora paralela. En los nuevos kernel se tiene que activar la impresora en las secciones General y Character Devices, pues el módulo que se encarga de detectar la impresora depende de la arquitectura de tu máquina. Revisa tu fichero .config para ver si tienes algo parecido a esto: # # General setup # CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m # # Character devices # CONFIG_PRINTER=m Con la arquitectura PC (i386) el programa update-modules (paquete modutils) pone algo asi al final /etc/modules.conf alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc y este es el responsable de detectar la impresora al arrancar: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2] parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven operation. parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present. (cuando tienes la impresora conectada, realmente aparece algo así: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2] parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven operation. lp0: using parport0 (polling). ) Espero que esto sea la solución de tu problema. Saludos, Jaime Villate
Netscape y los acentos (n-ésima parte)
Hola: Uso Debian Potato y me gustaría saber cómo poder escribir acentos encima de las vocales con el netscape. Gracias miles a todos. Virgilio
Re: Menu LILO
Fco.Javier Sánchez wrote: - Tras instalar en mi Pc la distribuicion Debian Hamm y configurar el Lilo de linux para que sea el quien arranque Linux o w95, mi pregunta es que fichero tengo que modificar para poder añadir un minimenu que me permita elegir entre w95 o linux, ahora tengo que pulsar alt despues de la Bios para poder arrancar el w95, ya que por defecto arranca linux. Como me parece que nadie te ha respondido aún, te respondo: tienes que usar el comando message en el fichero /etc/lilo.conf para indicarle donde está el menú (message) que quieres poner en la pantalla. Por ejemplo en mi caso tengo lo siguiente al principio de /etc/lilo.conf prompt timeout = 180 message = /root/lilo.prompt el timeout es para que espere 180 segundos antes de cargar la primera imagen definida a continuación, pero puedes cambiarlo. En el fichero /root/lilo.prompt tengo lo siguiente: ESCOJA EL SISTEMA QUE QUIERE USAR 1 - windows 2 - linux Para que el usuario pueda escribir 1 o windows y los dos sean reconocidos, usé algo así en /etc/lilo.conf other = /dev/hda1 label = windows alias = 1 table = /dev/hda Y en la definición de la imagen linux hice algo semajante, definiendo un alias con valor 2. Después ejecutas lilo para re-crear el sector de arranque y yá está. Jaime Villate
Re: Netscape y los acentos (n-ésima parte)
Virgilio Gómez Rubio wrote: Uso Debian Potato y me gustaría saber cómo poder escribir acentos encima de las vocales con el netscape. Hola Virgilio. Los acentos funcionan bien con las versiones de netscape compiladas con libc6; pero como al compilar con libc6 netscape daba muchos errores, el encargado del paquete decidió volver a compilar con libc5 lo cual nos deja sin acentos. Después de varias protestas, parece que las últimas versiones de netscape en Debian están otra vez compiladas con libc6. Yo uso communicator-smotif-45 y me vá muy bien con los acentos. Jaime
RE: Menu LILO
Muy agradecido! - Original Message - From: Jaime E. Villate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fco.Javier Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:05 AM Subject: Re: Menu LILO Fco.Javier Sánchez wrote: - Tras instalar en mi Pc la distribuicion Debian Hamm y configurar el Lilo de linux para que sea el quien arranque Linux o w95, mi pregunta es que fichero tengo que modificar para poder añadir un minimenu que me permita elegir entre w95 o linux, ahora tengo que pulsar alt despues de la Bios para poder arrancar el w95, ya que por defecto arranca linux. Como me parece que nadie te ha respondido aún, te respondo: tienes que usar el comando message en el fichero /etc/lilo.conf para indicarle donde está el menú (message) que quieres poner en la pantalla. Por ejemplo en mi caso tengo lo siguiente al principio de /etc/lilo.conf prompt timeout = 180 message = /root/lilo.prompt el timeout es para que espere 180 segundos antes de cargar la primera imagen definida a continuación, pero puedes cambiarlo. En el fichero /root/lilo.prompt tengo lo siguiente: ESCOJA EL SISTEMA QUE QUIERE USAR 1 - windows 2 - linux Para que el usuario pueda escribir 1 o windows y los dos sean reconocidos, usé algo así en /etc/lilo.conf other = /dev/hda1 label = windows alias = 1 table = /dev/hda Y en la definición de la imagen linux hice algo semajante, definiendo un alias con valor 2. Después ejecutas lilo para re-crear el sector de arranque y yá está. Jaime Villate -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Red Hat Certified Engineer...
Parece q RH ha puesto en marcha un sistema para dar una titulacion a personal preparado sobre su distro. Sabeis si Debian ha preparado algo por el estilo? Estoy en una empresa en la que empezamos a apostar fuerte por Linux, y la verdad, seria muy tener algo que demostrara a los posibles clientes que estamos preparados para ello... Gracias... Saxa
Solucion [RedHat Certified Enginner]
Gracias de todas maneras... ya lo he encontrado. Para quien le interese. http://www.lpi.org Professional Certification for the Linux Community Saxa Egea
Re: Menu LILO
Yep Jaime! El Tue, 18 de Jul de 2000 a las 11:05 AM, Jaime E. Villate escribió: Por si le hace gracia a alguien os adjunto mi /etc/lilo.msg -- ## ## # ## #[EMAIL PROTECTED]2:346/[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ## # ## ICQ UIN 1523792 Usuario Linux 94909## ## Debian GNU/Linux ## _##__##_ attachment: lilomsg.zip
quitar salvapantallas de terminales
hola ¿alguien sabe si hay algun modo de desactivar de modo permanente el salvapantallas negro que las terminales tienen por defecto? Sé que con setterm se puede desactivar, pero para ello has de hacer login y yo quiero que incluso antes de hacer login la terminal no se quede nunca en negro... gracias y un saludo, miquel
Re: Apresentacao.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Nivaldo A. P. de Vasconcelos wrote: Olah, estou precisando fazer uma apresentacao. Alguem sugere um pacote simples para confeccionar, e, se possivel, apresenta-lo. o Rubens Queiroz falou em uma das msg da Dicas-L sobre o PrestiMel. Eu o compilei (para o potato) e gerei o .deb. A homepage do programa é: http://oeh.tu-graz.ac.at/prestimel/ e o .deb você pode pegar em: http://ftp.tf.ipen.br/debian Eu só consegui fazer o .deb porque o autor já deixou as 'rules' prontas; ai foi só fazer debian/rules binary e 'voila'! Eu não utilizei o programa e não sei como é! Outro programa que você pode utilizar é o SlideDraw (procura no kachinatech que tem um link). Lá tem vários outros! (sal.kachinatech.com) seção CAD, Drawing Painting []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 http://www.revistalinux.com.br
installation startup problems...
Howdy all! I'm trying to get Debian installed on my new system. It is an 800Mhz Athlon on an Asus motherboard. Anyways, when I try to boot off of the CD(I have Debian 2.1 CDs from LSL, and a 2.1 CD from the Sams book), the boot up never finishes. The line where it stops reads: md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 Anyone out there have any ideas what might be wrong? +--+---+ |John E. Holeman | OSU Computer Science| |754-3450 |OSU Atmospheric Science| +--+---+ |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |www.orst.edu/~holemanj|[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +--+---+ | Wind in the leaves in the trees outside whispers of moonlight beyond | | Come walk for a while with me - In the dark all your dreams are reality | | If you want, all your wishes come true, but then, so may your nightmares| +--+
Re: network/ethernet card configuration problem?
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 02:55:54PM -0300, James Polson wrote Hi, I'm completely new to Linux, so the solution to my problem may be trivial to all of you experienced Debian Linux users (so I hope!). I'm trying to install Debian Linux (mostly with success), but I think that I'm having problems connecting with the ethernet card in my computer. The symptoms are: (1) A message during booting that is something like network is unreachable (I don't know what log file to look for to get the exact wording). (2) When I type ifconfig -a, I should see listings for two interfaces, lo and eth0, but the second one (the ethernet one) is not there. (3) Not surprisingly, telnet, ftp, etc. can't be used. (4) In the /var/log/syslog file, there is a message: cardmgr[189]: starting, version is 3.0.5 cardmgr[189]: no sockets found! cardmgr[189]: exiting I think that this problem reported is related. These lines relate to the PCMCIA support software; if you have no PCMCIA slots (which is what the card manager seems to believe) then it isn't a problem; you can ignore these messages, or be rid of them by removing the pcmcia-* packages. Information about my system: (1) I have a D-Link DE 220 card. (2) I have the NC2000 driver in /lib/modules/2.0.36/net This is the appropriate driver for the card, according to the D-Link website. The correct way to proceed depends on which version of Debian you are using (slink (2.1), potato (2.2), etc.); which is it? You can check if things are going to work out for you by trying the following commands as root: # lsmod This lists the driver modules currently loaded. If the ne or ne2k-pcidriver is loaded then you should see it listed in the output to this command, like so: ne2k-pci4136 1 Assuming it isn't loaded, try loading it by hand. If your NIC is a PCI card you should use the ne2k-pci driver, like so: # modprobe ne2k-pci PCI cards shouldn't need any extra parameters. If it's an ISA card you will need to use the ne module, and will need to pass at least the IO port as a parameter, with a command like this: # modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=10 You can skip the IRQ parameter, but if you know what it is then it makes things a little more bullet-proof. If you don't know what IO address the card is using, the Windows Device Manager (under System in Control Panels) will probably tell you. If the card is a bona-fide ISA/PNP card (as opposed to a traditional ISA card) then this will fail after a cold boot, and you will need to set the card up using isapnp before you can use it under Linux. The way modules are handled changed a couple of times in older (pre-2.1) Debian releases; you should check if the following files exist: /etc/modules.conf /etc/conf.modules /etc/modutils/ (a directory) /etc/modules This won't get you on the network, but it will tell you what you need to go further. Get back to us when you've tried this and let us know what Debian release you're using, and you should get some better-targeted help. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin support:technical services
Re: telnet vs ssl
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 02:09:03PM -0400, Ethan Pierce wrote Hi, im wondering about the security of telnet - people say its really unsecure...does this mean that someone would need to be running a network sniffer on my ip to catch the data? I telnet to my ISP from work, (only telnet available) then run SSH from ISP shell to home machineis this just as insecure as a straight connection via telnet right to my home machine? Maybe, it depends how your data gets from work to your ISP. If you're dialling up your ISP from work it's not so bad, because only machines on your ISP's net can see the traffic from your telnet session; if you're telnetting from your corporate LAN across the Internet to your ISP then it's no better than using Telnet alone. You don't need an SSH server to use SSH from your workplace: there are at least a couple of free Windows terminal programs (teraterm pro and putty) that can use SSH, and you could probably run them off a floppy. Of course, your workplace may be paranoid about you using or installing unauthorised software, in which case you should try to persuade them to authorise one of these (if they are across the security issues it shouldn't be a problem, provided they don't mind you using your home machine on work time). HTH, John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin support:technical services
Re: Cloning an installation
Just copy the disks. cp -ax / /mnt/ i think its ax anyhow. i should be more certain considering how many times i have done this, you will need to copy partition by partition, eg if you have /home on a different partition you will have to make a seperate partition on the second drive and mount that on /mnt after you have finished copying / cp -ax /home /mnt or something like that, then jsut boot from a floppy and run lilo when the drives are around the right way, it can be rather complicated at times and im to lazy to type muych more than this. At 14:54 17/07/00 -0700, Pascal Martin wrote: I have the following problem: I have one fully installed computer, and I want to install a second one the exact same way. I would like to avoid selecting all the packages manually. Is any automated way exists ? Something like listing all packages from the existing system and generating an installation script for the new one out of it ? Pascal. -=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=- -=| Daniel Free Earthlight Communications LTD|=- -=| [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ#15707938 |=- -=| Cellular # 021 258 3389 HTTP://quake.earthlight.co.nz/ |=- -=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-
Re: Getting apache, PHP3, and PostgreSQL working together.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alberto Brealey wrote: Fatal error: Call to unsupported or undefined function pg_connect() in lib.inc.php on line 90 did you try dl(pgsql.so); before using any pgsql functions? (you have to do this 'cuz pgsql is loaded as a module, not compiled into php interpreter). No, I didn't try that. As I understand it that is not required when you specify in the php3.ini file that this should be auto loaded. The auto load for mysql support for example works without a flaw on this same machine. Thank you for the suggestion though :) -- Remco Rijnders, ICQ: 760542 | Linux adanidas 2.2.14 is up 51 days, 7:45 http://www.starchat.net/| Reporter: Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Phone:(+31) 70 3467809 | Western Civilization? Cellular: (+31) 6 22091723 | Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.
difference between running perl from command line and web
Hi, I am using the latest perl in potato. Can anyone help me with this problem? Thanks. Shao. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shao Zhang) Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: difference between running perl from command line and web Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.63.219.44 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 18 Jul 2000 14:18:22 +1000 X-Trace: 18 Jul 2000 14:18:22 +1000, 203.63.219.44 Lines: 24 Path: news!shao Xref: news comp.lang.perl.misc:319361 Hi, I am having some strange problems with perl. For example: $output = `echo name=value | lynx -post_data -dump www.blah.com/cgi-bin/blah.cgi`; Now, with earlier perl versions, this works from both command line and web(as an cgi program). However, recently, I upgraded to perl5.005 and now it only works from command line and not web anymore. Any ideas? Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: PLEASE FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO THE VP-CUSTOMER SERVICE
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 07:47:47PM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote: I was under the impression that one could advertise on the list for a donation (I forgot the exact price, something like $1000 American). And you think the spammers are paying that? I hope debian doesn't lose money by me saying this, but if someone does advertise, paying or not, all subscribers could add the address to procmail or whatever and send it to /dev/null. Any further ads would then be useless. Not likely. Very few pay the posted rates. (Loki did, as I recall, a few months ago... can't recall anyone else that has paid, and I thought Loki was cool enough for that I mailed them a thank you note: Loki has a ton of ways to place 'free' ads (ain't PR fun?), but they chose to donate money to Debian.) But I have not seen any ads except the few that have lately appeared. They're just spam. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
vmlinuz-2.2.12scsimod
hi Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the above kernel, if it exists? I'm trying to build boot disks for my Debian laptop, which only seems to boot off the Tecra kernel image , of which I have v2.0.36, but that kernel version doesn't load any PCMCIA drivers (ie. it can't find /var/lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia ...). My root partition does have all the correct drivers (including PCMCIA), for 2.2.12 version kernels. thanks Andrew - Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci) IT Officer, School of Law MURDOCH UNIVERSITY Perth, Western Australia Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479] Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
On 18 Jul 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. There are no anti-virus programs because there are no viruses. There are a variety of security holes that crop up from time to time, but Windows is far worse. If I can't convince some people here at work, I'm about to be told to disconnect from the net or use (heaven forbid!) Windows for any kind of internet activity beyond our firewall. And that seems to include This shows a remarkable lack of cluefulness on the part of your network staff. I wish you luck, but they appear to be so stupid that you will probably not have much success.
is busy
I was editing a text file with vi when I accidently hit some unknown key combination which caused a single line of text to fill the entire screen. I couldn't figure out how to exit vi from that state so I logged on to another terminal and killed vi. But when I tried to re-open the file I was working on I got this message: is busy How do I fix this without rebooting? Thanks, David Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help compiling Xlib
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 09:37:13PM +0300, Lehel Bernadt wrote: On 17-Jul-2000 Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I am trying to compile a simple X application but I keep getting the folloeing error: gcc -g -o testapp test1.c -lX11 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Any suggestions? What are the Xlib libraries called under Linux. Thanks. You'll need xlib6g-dev. The X11 libs aren't normally in gcc's search path, you need both the search path *and* the library to link: $ gcc -g -O2 -o bar foo.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -- According to MegaHAL: The emu is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace.
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Dear Debians, I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. If I can't convince some people here at work, I'm about to be told to disconnect from the net or use (heaven forbid!) Windows for any kind of internet activity beyond our firewall. And that seems to include sending email like this to the list. Gack! It sounds like they're trying to give you an excuse to make life easier for Microsoft administrators by getting rid of Linux. The fact is that viruses are almost unheard of on Linux. I've only heard of 2 Linux-specific viruses in the last 3 years; neither has been seen since 1997. Viruses are really only a concern on Windows systems where there is no security (or the security mechanisms are set very lax by default with no one around to know to tighten up the system...) to keep any program from doing anything they want to the computer. There are antivirus programs that run under Linux - McAfee (now Network Associates) makes one, for example. However, due to the lack of Linux/UNIX viruses, these anti-virus programs are meant to be run on servers - mail servers, file servers, or anything else that has to interact with Windows PCs. The biggest problem relating to viruses on Linux is running untrusted scripts on your machine, just like on Windows. However, there is one very important differece between Linux and Windows in this regard: unlike Windows email programs, Linux email programs *do not* execute programs recieved as attachments automatically - you need to 1) save the program to disk and 2) manually execute it before any damage can be done. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
William T Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 18 Jul 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. There are no anti-virus programs because there are no viruses. The followup by Phil Brutsche says otherwise. There are a variety of security holes that crop up from time to time, but Windows is far worse. No need to convince me. Why do you think I use Debian? If I can't convince some people here at work, I'm about to be told to disconnect from the net or use (heaven forbid!) Windows for any kind of internet activity beyond our firewall. And that seems to include This shows a remarkable lack of cluefulness on the part of your network staff. I wish you luck, but they appear to be so stupid that you will probably not have much success. I wouldn't call the network folks stupid, but the managers are another matter completely. Not saying they are, though ;-) Thanks for your reply anyway. -- Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Dear Debians, I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. If I can't convince some people here at work, I'm about to be told to disconnect from the net or use (heaven forbid!) Windows for any kind of internet activity beyond our firewall. And that seems to include sending email like this to the list. Gack! It sounds like they're trying to give you an excuse to make life easier for Microsoft administrators by getting rid of Linux. Don't think so. I'm administering the Debian boxes myself. It seems their prime concern (for the moment?) is anti-virus software. A system that runs any version of Windows 95 or better (is there? ;-) and has Norton Anti-Virus installed and running at least once a month is okay with them. The fact is that viruses are almost unheard of on Linux. I've only heard of 2 Linux-specific viruses in the last 3 years; neither has been seen since 1997. Do you have any pointers? There are antivirus programs that run under Linux - McAfee (now Network Associates) makes one, for example. However, due to the lack of Linux/UNIX viruses, these anti-virus programs are meant to be run on servers - mail servers, file servers, or anything else that has to interact with Windows PCs. Thanks for this pointer. I'll look into it. The biggest problem relating to viruses on Linux is running untrusted scripts on your machine, just like on Windows. However, there is one very important differece between Linux and Windows in this regard: unlike Windows email programs, Linux email programs *do not* execute programs recieved as attachments automatically - you need to 1) save the program to disk and 2) manually execute it before any damage can be done. And then they only run under the user id and with the permissions you set. Thanks for your reply, -- Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development
Re: esd says unable to bind port 16001
Louis F. Melahn posts: I installed Helix Gnome on my Potato Debian system. Please check and see whether U have the lo device up and running in ur system by doing an 'ifconfig'. whenever I invoke it, I get the following message, Unable to bind port 16001 and then it aborts. What does that mean, and how do I fix it? Helix Gnome uses the loop-back device and a similar problem was fixed in my friend's Debian system by getting the lo device section in /etc/network/interfaces uncommented/added 'iface lo inet loopback'. Restart networking inetd services. YMMV and I maybe totally wrong here.. ragOO, VU2RGU Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: William T Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 18 Jul 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. There are no anti-virus programs because there are no viruses. The followup by Phil Brutsche says otherwise. For all intention's purposes, there are no Linux virui. Strickly speaking this is not true -- there have been virii created for Linux in the past, but they are not 'in the wild'. Here are some links to Linux virus information: Stoag - the first known Linux virus http://www.Europe.F-Secure.com/v-descs/staog.htm Bliss - the second known Linux virus http://www.Europe.F-Secure.com/v-descs/bliss.htm These are the only Linux virii in the F-Secure database. (F-Secure are the makers of the F-Prot virus software for windows. The also make an SSH terminal program). I would say that %99.999 of Linux users have not seen either of these virii (I know I haven't). The F-Secure site says that it believes that Stoag is not in circulation. I would think the same for Bliss as well. Can you count the number of Windows virii on one hand? No anti-virus software is required, even with 2 Linux virii. The 'bliss' virus even has a command line switch that causes it to remove itself! Matthew
Subject: Re: anyone knowledgeable enough pls help!
Hi Pavel, Thank you. I would really appreciate it if you can send me your programs... if you don't mind that is :) Pavel M. Penev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cut This here is absolutely wrong. The X11 system uses its own signals, transported via TCP/IP. Clicking File-Quit is just like clicking any other button. Netscape is responsible for handling the event, and it has no reason to kill its parent if run by a system()-like function, or run by exec*() function it will have its own signal-handling table. I have written two small programmes (one for GTK, and one to call it and trap signals). I can send them if you wish.
Printer using Cyan instead of Black
I just set up a Xerox DocuPrint C15 printer with kind help from Björn Brill (thanks) and others. Now I can print plain text and postscript, but postscript keeps using cyan instead of black (whereas plain text files print ok). Details: - Xerox DocuPrint C15 colour printer - can emulate HP DeskJet 500C, 550C and 690C (and, according to Xerox helpline, others... ) - software installed: lpr/lpd, gs-aladdin 5.50-8 and magicfilter 1.2-39 - My /etc/printcap (right now it's using the 690 filter, but I've tried all dj* filters): lp|xerox|XeroX Docuprint C15:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/xerox:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj690c-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Now, for postscript, both printing from GV and from the command line through 'lpr file.ps' give me CYAN. Same thing for pdf files through acrobat. I also tried printing a file.html from netscape, and the result is the same: if I choose colour I get cyan for the black, and if grayscale cyan for everything. Can anyone help with this, please? -- Horacio Anno MMDCCLIII A.U.C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA Key fingerprint = F4EE AE5E 2F01 0DB3 62F2 A9F4 AD31 7093 4233 7AE6
Problem with Samba after upgrade to frozen
Hi, After upgrading to 'frozen' at the weekend, I can't get samba to work. Whenever anyone tries to connect, I get an error logged, complaining that samba can't change the group id (this is in /var/log/smb). It appears to be trying to change to the group of the user that is trying to connect. Can anyone offer any advice? Many thanks. Andy
I need help please
I have a customer who would like to purchase a Toshiba from me and intends to run Debian Linux as the operating system. His question is this: He will either buy the Satellite Pro 4320 or 4270 which have with an AGP or PCI 3D Savage graphics card built in, does Debian support this hardware please? He also intends to use a 3Com PCMCIA 10/100BaseT Ethernet card with it to, model no. 3CCFE575BT. Do you know if this is also supported? Please could you let me know either way ASAP as he would like to place his order today. Kindest regards, Melissa. -- Melissa Stirling Regional Office TCSS LTD 185 East Road, Cambridge, CB1 1BG Tel :01223 350216 Fax : 01223 350230 website: www.tcss-uk.com Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] All prices quoted are subject to Vat @ 17.5% We reserve the right to revise any quoted price as a consequence of currency fluctuations, product price increases or increased costs outside our control.
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
William T Wilson wrote: On 18 Jul 2000, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. There are no anti-virus programs because there are no viruses. There are a variety of security holes that crop up from time to time, but Windows is far worse. The main reasons there are no viruses is, first, that few have been written, and second, that Linux is not so favourable an environment for infection. It is, however, a delusion to think that Linux/Unix viruses are impossible. The more we get clueless users who run everything as root, the more likely we are to see viruses spreading. To make a comparison with human health, good security is like good hygiene, and people who live in filth are likely to get diseases. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
RE: [Q] virus susceptibility data
Hi Olaf, On 18-Jul-00 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Dear Debians, I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. If I can't convince some people here at work, I'm about to be told to disconnect from the net or use (heaven forbid!) Windows for any kind of internet activity beyond our firewall. And that seems to include sending email like this to the list. Gack! As other have pointed out, there are almost no known viruses for UNIX/Linux as such, and the two or three ever heard of are (as far as I know) almost never encountered. For some reason, hackers don't bother to attack UNIX systems that way (probably there's more mileage in other types of attack). A line of virus which might well be possible, and platform-independent, is the planting of Java in HTML. This could hit UNIX/Linux and Windows equally, though I haven't heard of it on Linux. A lot of Linux MUAs can open HTML attachments in Netscape, though usually not automatically (the user has to choose). DOS/Windows viruses are another matter, in these days when people routinely mail each other Word/Excel etc attachments in the name of communication. Even Linux folk have to deal with these things, which usually means running Windows on another machine, or in WABI or WINE or VMWare, and opening the file (though most Word docs can be handled in Linux-native WordPerfect which should not be vulnerable to a Word macro virus, for instance). Once you have done that, your Windows installation may be messed up (though the Linux part of your installation should survive). In any case, if you subsequently forward the attachment to a colleague you will be sending the virus on, whether your Linux system is immune to it or not. These add up to arguments for virus-checking incoming mail, even on a UNIX/Linux system. Clearly, plain-text and similar emails don't need checking, and usually attachments are not opened automatically either, so there should be no need to virus-check every mail (which, if it's done on delivery, really slows things down). I simply take the precaution of running a virus check only on a mail containing a possibly suspicious attachment and leaving the rest alone (having been caught once by a macro virus in a Word/Win-3.1 document which caused my WABI/Win-3.1 Word to send it on whenever I subsequently used this Word). The program I use is VirusScan ('uvscan') from Network Associates: see in the first place http://www.nai.com and, in particular, http://software.mcafee.com/centers/download/ along with the MacAfee virus database (though you can use others). It seems to work quite well. You can configure it to be run standalone rather than as a filter for incoming mail: then, if you see a mail attachment that you think might need a check, you just feen that attachment to the virus checker (My MUA, XFMail, has a flexible MIME menu which allows you to View As any attachment; and you can set one of the As options to be a pipe to the checker). Phil Brutsche in this thread said that there is one very important differece between Linux and Windows in this regard: unlike Windows email programs, Linux email programs *do not* execute programs recieved as attachments automatically - you need to 1) save the program to disk and 2) manually execute it before any damage can be done. This is not quite true, either in principle or in fact. First, nothing stops someone from developing an email program (MUA) which _could_ automatically (without user selection) open an attachment it thought it knew how to handle (though I don't know of one; but a naive user could set this up in the rules for filtering incoming mail, I dare say). Secondly, when you receive an email consisting (in effect) solely of an attachment with no other significant information, all you can usefully do is open the attachment. In many MUAs this is simply a matter of clicking on the attachment bar and the rest is then automatic; the scope for user discrimination is almost nil (with the exception of running a virus check on it). Now, although I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, in XFMail at least you could have one of your MIME entries of the form type/subtype extn command application/prog exe exec which would have the effect of executing the attachment as a program. I hope this helps. Olaf's situation is not as straightforward as he might wish! Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 284 7749 Date: 18-Jul-00 Time: 10:55:45 -- XFMail --
Re: kerneld message / Workaround
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, brian moore wrote: On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 11:51:06AM +0100, Jonathan Heaney wrote: David Wright wrote: The scripts /etc/init.d/{kerneld,modutils} have to be able to handle both 2.0 and 2.2 kernels with kerneld or kmod. You will see they do this by testing for the presence of /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe which only exists under 2.2. But doesn't -always- exist on 2.2: [narvi:/etc/init.d] 11:26:37am 136 % ls -l /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe ls: /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe: No such file or directory [narvi:/etc/init.d] 11:26:39am 137 % uname -a Linux narvi 2.2.16 #6 Fri Jun 23 13:51:08 PDT 2000 i686 unknown You need to have 'CONFIG_KMOD' set in your kernel build to have it, which I don't. Seems to me that the logic on that is broken. /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe is not a good way to determine whether kerneld should be run. What I think is that you are wrong. If you have compiled your kernel with 'CONFIG_KMOD' defined, then you would have kmod built into your kernel. kmod is a REPLACEMENT for kerneld, remember? Perhaps you should file a bug on it? Don't be that fast. Regards, Pavel
Re: Help compiling Xlib
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I tried all sorts of combinations but don't seem to be able to get it going. What is the name of the Xlib library files? Here are the things I tried. Any other advice? Thanks. --- Pavel M. Penev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I am trying to compile a simple X application but I keep getting the folloeing error: gcc -g -o testapp test1.c -lX11 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Any suggestions? What are the Xlib libraries called under Linux. Thanks. -D xlib6g installs its libraries under /usr/X11R6/lib/ (try dpkg --largemem -L xlib6g) and are trying to have names compatible with all other distributions. I think the problem is that xlib6g does not make /usr/lib/X11 to be a symlink to /usr/lib/X11R6 where ld likes to look for the libraries. Either make the symlink, or give ld (gcc will pass appropriate arguments to ld) a -L/usr/X11R6/lib switch. This is for now, Pavel M. Penev And what you should have tried is: gcc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 other gcc options file.c Sorry for misleading you in a way. Hope you suceed this time, Pavel
Re: How do I get mail archives?
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Bolan Meek wrote: Pavel M. Penev wrote: (I know you like to help, so here is something to make you feel good... ) Well, thank you for the opportunity! Can you, please, inform me on what is the procedure of getting a mail archive? What I have found is at http://www.debian.org/contact; in section Commonly Requested Addresses: Mailing List Archives [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this what you need: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ ? Yes, that fits greatly. (... or at least make you laugh :)) Whew! Oh, no: this would heap up bad karma. A huge thanks, Pavel
I need help please
I have a customer who would like to purchase a Toshiba from me and intends to run Debian Linux as the operating system. His question is this: He will either buy the Satellite Pro 4320 or 4270 which have with an AGP or PCI 3D Savage graphics card built in, does Debian support this hardware please? He also intends to use a 3Com PCMCIA 10/100BaseT Ethernet card with it to, model no. 3CCFE575BT. Do you know if this is also supported? Please could you let me know either way ASAP as he would like to place his order today. Kindest regards, Melissa. -- Melissa Stirling Regional Office TCSS LTD 185 East Road, Cambridge, CB1 1BG Tel :01223 350216 Fax : 01223 350230 website: www.tcss-uk.com Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] All prices quoted are subject to Vat @ 17.5% We reserve the right to revise any quoted price as a consequence of currency fluctuations, product price increases or increased costs outside our control.
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
Okay - call it a Martian[1] solution, but the only way your linux box could hold a virus is if the data was writeable by users. I have 18 Gb of CDROMS shared via samba - the entire partition is mounted read only, and clients can't write to the share anyway. OR the other solution is to run your standard windows virus checker on the contents of the share And you won't need another license cos you're running an existing license. The drawback there is every infectable file will have to be read over the network but thats what schedualled birus checks are good for. [1] I can call it a martian solution - theres no martians around to object :) At 03:03 PM 7/18/00 +0900, you wrote: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Dear Debians, I'm looking for any kind of info on vulnerability to viruses on Debian and/or Linux. Pointers to anti-virus programs are also very welcome. If I can't convince some people here at work, I'm about to be told to disconnect from the net or use (heaven forbid!) Windows for any kind of internet activity beyond our firewall. And that seems to include sending email like this to the list. Gack! It sounds like they're trying to give you an excuse to make life easier for Microsoft administrators by getting rid of Linux. Don't think so. I'm administering the Debian boxes myself. It seems their prime concern (for the moment?) is anti-virus software. A system that runs any version of Windows 95 or better (is there? ;-) and has Norton Anti-Virus installed and running at least once a month is okay with them. The fact is that viruses are almost unheard of on Linux. I've only heard of 2 Linux-specific viruses in the last 3 years; neither has been seen since 1997. Do you have any pointers? There are antivirus programs that run under Linux - McAfee (now Network Associates) makes one, for example. However, due to the lack of Linux/UNIX viruses, these anti-virus programs are meant to be run on servers - mail servers, file servers, or anything else that has to interact with Windows PCs. Thanks for this pointer. I'll look into it. The biggest problem relating to viruses on Linux is running untrusted scripts on your machine, just like on Windows. However, there is one very important differece between Linux and Windows in this regard: unlike Windows email programs, Linux email programs *do not* execute programs recieved as attachments automatically - you need to 1) save the program to disk and 2) manually execute it before any damage can be done. And then they only run under the user id and with the permissions you set. Thanks for your reply, -- Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Criggie
Turn off delay after failed login?
Hello, I tried to turn off the delay after a failed login. I changed the line in /etc/login.defs to this: FAIL_DELAY 0 But it is not working. To me it seems like setting it to 1 results in a delay of about two seconds. Is it possible to turn it off or set it to exactly one second? Thanks, Phil
Re: Dialpad - debian firewall
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 10:00:16PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: I'm using Debian 2.2.15 as a firewall, configuring IPCqHAINS with PMfirewall. I would like to be able to use Dialpad from my windows machines but after reading all the info I could find I cannot get it to work. Anyone ever succeed? Any expert on the subject available to help? I got it to work on my wife's win98 machine. There are instructions on their web site for using dialpad through a firewall. I had to add: /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -v -r udp 51200 51201 -c tcp 7175 /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -v -r tcp 51210 51210 -c tcp 7175 then recompile the kernel to enable autofw. Not sure it was worth it though, the connections were mostly poor, you can't hear if an answering machine answers. The lag with a cable modem isn't too bad though. John Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 USA Fax (561) 382-7771 Take a virtual tour of the island http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide Find out more about NetConcepts www.netconcepts.ai bwz*mq -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Using Linux
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
Olaf Meeuwissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't think so. I'm administering the Debian boxes myself. It seems their prime concern (for the moment?) is anti-virus software. A system that runs any version of Windows 95 or better (is there? ;-) and has Norton Anti-Virus installed and running at least once a month is okay with them. At least once a month is *not* enough -- our computer department recommends updating the virus database once a *week*! (But then consider that the anti-virus software can't detect new viruses like the I LOVE YOU virus.) The fact is that viruses are almost unheard of on Linux. I've only heard of 2 Linux-specific viruses in the last 3 years; neither has been seen since 1997. Do you have any pointers? Have a look at the AMaViS homepage http://satan.oih.rwth-aachen.de/AMaViS/, they have a fine link list there at the bottom. Greetings, joachim
Eterm Backspace and Del?
What does one put in MAIN for Eterm to control Backspace and Del keysym's? Thanks, John -- John Conover[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.johncon.com/ 631 Lamont Ct. Tel. 408.370.2688 http://www.johncon.com/ntropix/ Campbell, CA 95008 Fax. 408.379.9602 http://www.johncon.com/nformatix/
Re: simple grep command twister
john smith scripsit: Hi! mind twister break? how to use grep to show all the paladrome words in the linux dictionary? grep '\(.\)\(.\)\(.\)\3\2\1' \usr\dict\words partly works? You simply can't. period. palindrome (not palandrome) is a context-free concept, that is to say you can't express it with regular expression. See any good book on compilers or better still forma languages to understand why. -- Leo TheHobbit Cacciari I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: [Debian]:was machen wenn *.deb zu alt ist?
Thomas Guettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im meinem speziellen Fall geht es um alsa. Ich wuerde mir gerne die 0.5.8 installieren als debianpacket gibt es nur die 0.4.1 $ dpkg -l alsa-base Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii alsa-base 0.5.8b-2 ALSA driver common files Allerdings keine Ahnung, ob dies auch potato ist. Gruß, joachim
Re: What is SIOCSIFFLAGS, and when will he be back?
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Raymond L. Zarling wrote: Yes, I have booted linux both from a cold start and after running windows, with no difference. But I guess that indicates some kind of Plug and Play problem. I don't think that's what's going on in my case, since the dmesg output (recorded below) says to me that the kernal is talking to the card just fine. Does anyone, please, know how I could research this problem farther? Prove, for instance, whether it is or is not a Plug and Play problem? I have had a similar problem (though it DID fix with soft booting). I have browsed through the drivers source (I think it was kernel 2.2.15?). What I have found is that the card and the driver have poor media autosensing. The log shows you are trying to autosense. Also, on a 3com card (its driver's author is the same) I had some headaches, for the card seemed PnP, but it lied (you had to programme its parameters via 3c5x9setup). I suggest that you should look for a tool like 3c5x9 for your card and try programming its IRQ and I/O settings to those autodetected by the driver, also don't rely on the driver's autosensing. --Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** dmesg ** Linux version 2.2.12 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #2 Thu Aug 26 11:46:26 PDT 1999 ... tulip.c:v0.91g 7/16/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] eth0: Digital DS21143 Tulip rev 65 at 0x6100, 00:C0:F0:3B:F7:91, IRQ 0. eth0: EEPROM default media type Autosense. eth0: Index #0 - Media MII (#11) described by a 21142 MII PHY (3) block. eth0: MII transceiver #1 config 3000 status 7829 advertising 01e1. ** ifconfig -a ** eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:F0:3B:F7:91 inet addr:192.168.1.13 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Base address:0x6100 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 ** lsmod ** Module Size Used by nls_cp437 3548 1 (autoclean) tulip 29060 0 (unused) serial 18412 1 parport 6600 0 (unused) vfat8972 1 umsdos 22768 0 (unused) Hopefully helpful, Pavel
Command line setting of background in helix gnome
Anyone know of a command line tool to set the background under gnome/sawfish? tia -- The Flying Hamster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well not so much flying as sitting on the tube... All computers are evil, just remember that. -- Me.
Re: kerneld message / Workaround
Quoting brian moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 11:51:06AM +0100, Jonathan Heaney wrote: David Wright wrote: The scripts /etc/init.d/{kerneld,modutils} have to be able to handle both 2.0 and 2.2 kernels with kerneld or kmod. You will see they do this by testing for the presence of /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe which only exists under 2.2. But doesn't -always- exist on 2.2: [narvi:/etc/init.d] 11:26:37am 136 % ls -l /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe ls: /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe: No such file or directory [narvi:/etc/init.d] 11:26:39am 137 % uname -a Linux narvi 2.2.16 #6 Fri Jun 23 13:51:08 PDT 2000 i686 unknown You need to have 'CONFIG_KMOD' set in your kernel build to have it, which I don't. Thanks for finding that out. Of course, the 2.2 kernel documentation does say that you should configure kmod. Seems to me that the logic on that is broken. /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe is not a good way to determine whether kerneld should be run. Perhaps you should file a bug on it? Maybe, but I tend towards the idea that if you decide to go your own way on this, it's not a lot to expect you to have to modify the startup script too. And what about 2.4test kernels (that I'm running) ? I don't have a /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe - what should I do? How do the magic scripts in /etc/init.d deal with that They run kerneld. Wrongly. Ditto. (Maybe, ... too.) Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
About Staroffice
Hi, there: Anyone know where to find the commands for StarMath? I use StarOffice 3.1. Thanks in advance! Nianwei __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Remote Apps
Quoting Ethan Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Id like to be able to run ftp and telnet to my home machine from work...normally this works fine. Today I thought I would just boot up my home machine to the login and leave it there to save some processor...theoretically this is supposed to work? I called another friend (this is b4 I left for work) and had him log in...this worked. I left for work and when I arrived couldnt log in...hmm What do you mean by couldn't log in? Called my girlfriend and had her log in locally...now I could get in again from work...weird I logged out remote , then came back an hour later...couldnt connect to or ping my machine...called her up again and had her startx thinking maybe I needed something running full time to have the remote network access. Now things are working remotely without the hitch. What do you mean by couldn't connect to my machine? Now, my questions are: 1)Does remote network access depend on users logged in locally? No. 2) If a user is logged in locally and times out so to speak from not doing anything will this cut off remote access? No. The problem is, you say nothing about how you're trying to connect. Are you on cable, or are you using the telephone? Did the telephone get answered? On each occasion? Rather than post exactly what happened and what didn't, you seem to have decided that it's something to do with other users on the machine. I don't know why. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Subject: Re: anyone knowledgeable enough pls help!
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Joseph de los Santos wrote: Hi Pavel, Thank you. I would really appreciate it if you can send me your programs... if you don't mind that is :) Pavel M. Penev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cut This here is absolutely wrong. The X11 system uses its own signals, transported via TCP/IP. Clicking File-Quit is just like clicking any other button. Netscape is responsible for handling the event, and it has no reason to kill its parent if run by a system()-like function, or run by exec*() function it will have its own signal-handling table. I have written two small programmes (one for GTK, and one to call it and trap signals). I can send them if you wish. Have you still not received the tarball?! Regards, Pavel
Re: Getting apache, PHP3, and PostgreSQL working together.
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 05:31:15AM +0200, Remco Rijnders wrote: So now with the cause pinned down, what can I do to fix this? I'd like to run potato on this machine but really need version 7.* of postgreSQL because of the foreign key support. Would upgrading just the php3-pgsql package work, or would I then also need to upgrade apache and all other things? The PHP3 packages from woody seem to work fine. If you upgrade them, though, you'll get an upgraded apache, too. And apache-ssl from woody conflicts with ssh, so if you need ssh, you can't have apache-ssl for now. You could compile the potato version of PHP against postgres 7. That's what I did. Just add a sources line to your sources.list. Last question... If this is a known incompatibilty, shouldn't the debian packaging mechanism prevent me from making oopsies like this by pointing out the dependencies to me? I don't know. I do know that you can install the php3-pgsql package without having PostgreSQL installed, so apparently there is no dependency. -- Andrew Sullivan Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]Burlington Public Library +1 905 639 3611 x158 2331 New Street Burlington, Ontario, Canada L7R 1J4
Re: modem dialin init string
+ A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anybody has a good init string for a v.90 rockwell based modem(dlink dfm-56E)? this will be used for dialin purposes. Mr. Modem should have one for you: http://www.spy.net/dustin/modem/ Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
Re: installation startup problems...
+ Screwy Squirrel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Howdy all! I'm trying to get Debian installed on my new system. It is an 800Mhz Athlon on an Asus motherboard. Anyways, when I try to boot off of the CD(I have Debian 2.1 CDs from LSL, and a 2.1 CD from the Sams book), the boot up never finishes. [...] Anyone out there have any ideas what might be wrong? It seems to be a problem with the old 2.0.x kernel used for slink. Some Athlon specific things I guess. I did not solve the problem with slink - I switched to potato and it works. It should be possbile to get a newer kernel and use it at install. But I am not experienced with this... I stopped trying with slink as fast as potato was in the 2nd test cycle. Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
Re: [Q] virus susceptibility data
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 04:24:42PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote: For all intention's purposes, there are no Linux virui. Strickly speaking this is not true -- there have been virii created for Linux in the past, but they are not 'in the wild'. For those who like a pointless bit of language trivia, Tom Christiansen has a long rant on why the plural of virus is 'viruses', and most especially, is not 'virii': http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html -- Andrew Sullivan Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]Burlington Public Library +1 905 639 3611 x158 2331 New Street Burlington, Ontario, Canada L7R 1J4
Re: Getting apache, PHP3, and PostgreSQL working together.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 05:31:15AM +0200, Remco Rijnders wrote: So now with the cause pinned down, what can I do to fix this? I'd like to run potato on this machine but really need version 7.* of postgreSQL because of the foreign key support. Would upgrading just the php3-pgsql package work, or would I then also need to upgrade apache and all other things? The PHP3 packages from woody seem to work fine. If you upgrade them, though, you'll get an upgraded apache, too. And apache-ssl from woody conflicts with ssh, so if you need ssh, you can't have apache-ssl for now. You could compile the potato version of PHP against postgres 7. That's what I did. Just add a sources line to your sources.list. I managed to solve the problem (thanks to your pointer earlier). In the end I have downloaded php3-pgsql, php3 and apache-common from woody. All other packages I could keep at the potato version, including the main apache package. The program I needed this for now works like a champ :) A thank you to you and everyone else who attempted to help me. It is very much appreciated. Sincerely, -- Remco Rijnders, ICQ: 760542 | Linux adanidas 2.2.14 is up 51 days, 8:52 http://www.starchat.net/| Reporter: Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Phone:(+31) 70 3467809 | Western Civilization? Cellular: (+31) 6 22091723 | Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.
Re: anyone knowledgeable enough pls help! (fwd)
Subject: Re: anyone knowledgeable enough pls help! On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Pavel M. Penev wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote: For the starting of x-windows, I guess you could but startx in .login in the users home-dir. The netscape part it quite a bit more difficult ( I guess you can start it using .Xsession or something, but you'll have to check the docs of that for more info), the closing part, here the idea I got on that ( I can't provide it to you because I'm not good at c): Create a c-program that starts netscape and include signal.h that intercepts the SIGTERM, when the SIGTERM arrives the user is prompted for a password (netscape will be closed at that moment), if the password is correct, the program is terminated and netscape isn't running anymore, if the password is incorrect, netscape is restarted. Perhaps this can be of any help. Ron Rademaker This here is absolutely wrong. The X11 system uses its own signals, transported via TCP/IP. Clicking File-Quit is just like clicking any other button. Netscape is responsible for handling the event, and it has no reason to kill its parent if run by a system()-like function, or run by exec*() function it will have its own signal-handling table. I have written two small programmes (one for GTK, and one to call it and trap signals). I can send them if you wish. Didn't know that... I would like to take a look at those programmes, thank. Ron Rademaker Here you are the sources, Pavel 3.tgz Description: Here they are.
RE: Problem with Samba after upgrade to frozen
Hi, After upgrading to 'frozen' at the weekend, I can't get samba to work. Whenever anyone tries to connect, I get an error logged, complaining that samba can't change the group id (this is in /var/log/smb). It appears to be trying to change to the group of the user that is trying to connect. Can anyone offer any advice? IIRC, that is a bug with the 2.0.x kernels and the newer samba. If you are running a 2.0.x kernel, try changing to a 2.2.x one. Someone recompiled samba for 2.0 kernels and posted a url for the debs. I have since lost it. I think it was Jens Jorgensen. Anyone else have a pointer? jim Many thanks. Andy -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
What is /dev/log ?
Hello, would anyone know where the file /dev/log comes from? ls -l /dev/log srw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 18 07:46 /dev/log RTFM is an acceptable answer, especially if the man page is specified. Cheers, Etienne
Re: kerneld message / Workaround
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 01:05:42PM +0300, Pavel M. Penev wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, brian moore wrote: On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 11:51:06AM +0100, Jonathan Heaney wrote: David Wright wrote: The scripts /etc/init.d/{kerneld,modutils} have to be able to handle both 2.0 and 2.2 kernels with kerneld or kmod. You will see they do this by testing for the presence of /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe which only exists under 2.2. But doesn't -always- exist on 2.2: [narvi:/etc/init.d] 11:26:37am 136 % ls -l /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe ls: /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe: No such file or directory [narvi:/etc/init.d] 11:26:39am 137 % uname -a Linux narvi 2.2.16 #6 Fri Jun 23 13:51:08 PDT 2000 i686 unknown You need to have 'CONFIG_KMOD' set in your kernel build to have it, which I don't. Seems to me that the logic on that is broken. /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe is not a good way to determine whether kerneld should be run. What I think is that you are wrong. Well, you're allowed your own opinions, even if they are boneheaded and not backed up by facts. If you have compiled your kernel with 'CONFIG_KMOD' defined, then you would have kmod built into your kernel. kmod is a REPLACEMENT for kerneld, remember? Yes, and 'kerneld' is for 2.0, -NOT- 2.2. | WARNING |kerneld is obsolete as of Linux kernel 2.1.90, it was |replaced by the kmod kernel thread and cron entries. Do |not even think of using kerneld unless you are running a |2.0 kernel. See that? It says DO NOT run kerneld on anything but 2.0. NOT. BAD. Got it? Now, the logic in /etc/init.d/kerneld -WILL- run it if you build a 2.2 (remember that number?) kernel with 'CONFIG_KMOD' undefined. See, in that case, /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe will NOT exist, which is how /etc/init.d/kerneld determines the version of your kernel. Go check the source. The /proc entry for sys/kernel/modprobe is in kernel/sysctl.c: #ifdef CONFIG_KMOD {KERN_MODPROBE, modprobe, modprobe_path, 256, 0644, NULL, proc_dostring, sysctl_string }, #endif See the #ifdef? Yep, /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe only exists if KMOD is defined. Perhaps you should file a bug on it? Don't be that fast. Why not? A bug is a bug. 'man kerneld' is quite clear that kerneld should -not- be run on a 2.2 kernel. Yet /etc/init.d/kerneld is quite happy to run it on a 2.2 kernel because it uses an incorrect method for testing the version of the kernel. Why is that not a bug? -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: Command line setting of background in helix gnome
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 01:21:02PM +0100, The Flying Hamster wrote: Anyone know of a command line tool to set the background under gnome/sawfish? have a look at /usr/X11R6/bin/setup-background from the fvwm-common package. it's windowmanager independend. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
RE: Problem with Samba after upgrade to frozen
Hi, IIRC, that is a bug with the 2.0.x kernels and the newer samba. If you are running a 2.0.x kernel, try changing to a 2.2.x one. I am running a 2.0.x kernel. If it's as simple as that, then I'll certainly do it (one of the reasons for moving up to frozen was go use the 2.2 kernel anyway). As an aside, what changes are required to use a 2.4 kernel? Anything? Thanks for the info. Andy
Re: I need help please
* Melissa Stirling in I need help please dated 2000/07/18 10:22 * wrote: I have a customer who would like to purchase a Toshiba from me and intends to run Debian Linux as the operating system. His question is this: He will either buy the Satellite Pro 4320 or 4270 which have with an AGP or PCI 3D Savage graphics card built in, does Debian support this hardware please? To the programs running there's not much difference between AGP/PCI but the S3 Savage is listed in the XFree cards database, so yes it should work. He also intends to use a 3Com PCMCIA 10/100BaseT Ethernet card with it to, model no. 3CCFE575BT. Do you know if this is also supported? I've had only good luck with the 3Com PCMCIA cards, so I would suspect it will work w/no problem. You should look at the Linux Laptop page (url not handy) for some real information though. -- Ashley Clark GCS/M d- s:-- a-- C++$ UL$ P L+++ E W++ N+ o K++ w O M V-- PS+(++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++(+++) t* 5+ X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D G e* h* r++ y+ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for GPG public keyhttp://ghoti.org/ pgpTfPrQvOWy1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What is /dev/log ?
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, etienne grossmann wrote: Hello, would anyone know where the file /dev/log comes from? ls -l /dev/log srw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 18 07:46 /dev/log RTFM is an acceptable answer, especially if the man page is specified. Cheers, Etienne See the manual pages of syslogd and klogd. Hope you get satisfied, Pavel
Re: kerneld message / Workaround
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, brian moore wrote: Perhaps you should file a bug on it? Don't be that fast. Why not? A bug is a bug. 'man kerneld' is quite clear that kerneld should -not- be run on a 2.2 kernel. Yet /etc/init.d/kerneld is quite happy to run it on a 2.2 kernel because it uses an incorrect method for testing the version of the kernel. Why is that not a bug? I guess the developers have just left the user decide whether to use kerneld or not. You are right to think that they could have done it nicer by using uname, for example. So, I agree -- send a bug report (with severity of about whishlist) if you would. Pavel
RE: Problem with Samba after upgrade to frozen
Hi, IIRC, that is a bug with the 2.0.x kernels and the newer samba. If you are running a 2.0.x kernel, try changing to a 2.2.x one. I am running a 2.0.x kernel. If it's as simple as that, then I'll certainly do it (one of the reasons for moving up to frozen was go use the 2.2 kernel anyway). As an aside, what changes are required to use a 2.4 kernel? Anything? I don't know. Never tried the 2.4 kernel. jim Thanks for the info. Andy -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: network/ethernet card configuration problem?
Hi, Thanks to all who answered my call for help! This message here is in response to the one from John Pearson. Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:15:56 +0930 From: John Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: network/ethernet card configuration problem? To:debian-user@lists.debian.org The correct way to proceed depends on which version of Debian you are using (slink (2.1), potato (2.2), etc.); which is it? It is slink (2.1) You can check if things are going to work out for you by trying the following commands as root: # lsmod This lists the driver modules currently loaded. If the ne or ne2k-pcidriver is loaded then you should see it listed in the output to this command, like so: ne2k-pci4136 1 It was not loaded! Assuming it isn't loaded, try loading it by hand. If your NIC is a PCI card you should use the ne2k-pci driver, like so: # modprobe ne2k-pci PCI cards shouldn't need any extra parameters. If it's an ISA card you will need to use the ne module, and will need to pass at least the IO port as a parameter, with a command like this: # modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=10 You can skip the IRQ parameter, but if you know what it is then it makes things a little more bullet-proof. If you don't know what IO address the card is using, the Windows Device Manager (under System in Control Panels) will probably tell you. If the card is a bona-fide ISA/PNP card (as opposed to a traditional ISA card) then this will fail after a cold boot, and you will need to set the card up using isapnp before you can use it under Linux. The full name of the card is D-Link DE220 ISA PnP -- is this a bona-fide ISA/PNP adaptor? I tried using the command # modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=03(these are the proper settings) and it didn't complain. However, I infer from your remarks that I will have to use 'isapnp'. I guess that this means I will have to edit (properly!) the /etc/isapnp.conf file. I looked at the website http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools and it looks like I will need a line in the file like: (CONFIGURE EDI0119/236861364 ( ... etc. The code 'EDI0119' identifies the ethernet card -- but how can I find what code to use for my card? Please let me know if there is anything else I have to know about 'isapnp'. The way modules are handled changed a couple of times in older (pre-2.1) Debian releases; you should check if the following files exist: /etc/modules.conf This one wasn't there! /etc/conf.modules Present. /etc/modutils/ (a directory) Present. /etc/modules Present. Get back to us when you've tried this and let us know what Debian release you're using, and you should get some better-targeted help. Looking forward to it! James Polson
Howto start X server on psuedo-tty or a FIFO
Hi: Is it possible to start the X server (and hence all the apps that run under it) on a psuedo-tty or a FIFO device? When X starts up, it run on tty1 or something like that. I would like to run on a psuedo-tty or a FIFO so that it can receive all input from them. Thanks. -Dinesh __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Old Macs
I have 2 old Macs I'd like to install Linux on: 1) PowerMac 7100 (NuBus) 2) Beige G3 My questions: 1) Does anyone know if Linux can be installed on the 7100? 2) The built-in ethernet isn't working on the G3, so I want to use a PCI card. I have an Intel 10/100 Pro card that I'd like to use. Anyone know if I can get drivers for this? Thanks, Mick
Re: Old Macs
on 7/18/00 11:05 AM, Sear, Mick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Does anyone know if Linux can be installed on the 7100? MkLinux will work on that box, if I'm not mistaken. See URL:http://mklinux.org 2) The built-in ethernet isn't working on the G3, so I want to use a PCI card. I have an Intel 10/100 Pro card that I'd like to use. Anyone know if I can get drivers for this? Should just work with the drivers in the kernel, I'd think -- PCI is PCI, after all. Good luck, john. -- [ John S Jacobs Anderson ]--URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Genehack: Not your daddy's weblog ]--URL:http://genehack.org
asking x not to listen on an interface
I've been lookin in the docs, and I cant find any info on how to do this... I want to stop X from listening on a particular interface... or even stop it from listening on any tcp port at all. I'd prefer that it just use a unix socket or something - something non public. Any ideas? Thanks Mathew Johnston
[OFFTOPIC] Eudora mail client behind MASQ'ing debian?
i have a client going trough the roof cause she can't send any mail with Eudora (v3.01 or around there). her machine is behind a debian box (potato not-so-current, k2.2.14) which masq's. that potato box is behind another one that masq's her (same potato), which in turn is behind a really old POS slakware 4.0, kernel 2.0.33 which masq's everything to the net. i remember that like 3 months ago (when we installed their network) she had the same prob, i read around a bit, remember seeing something about eudora having probs behind masq'ing boxen running linux. but then she stopped complaining and told us the prob was fixed, so we didn't care. a week ago she starts calling again, bitchin every five minutes. so the question is: is there a prob with eudora? or should i look in the linux boxen? more info: if she dials-up, she can send mail. with outlook express i can send mail. her box got rebuild like two weeks ago, and since then eudora craps out ('Connection Refused' error) when sending mail. i can send mail telnetting to port 25 of her mail server, so the rules are fine (i guess). TIA, Alberto Brealey. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian + Windows98 on the same large disk problem
Hi, I have recently got a new hard disk 40GB, in which I decided to install both Windows98 and Debian, FreeBSD. (I never wanted to install this Win98 stuff on my machine but job matters force...) I repartitioned the hard disk using slink Debian's cfdisk into a first FAT32 partition of 12GB and 3 more partitions (second is 12GB BSD, and the other two, 10 and 5GB Linux). For the cfdisk to work properly with my large disk, I had to specify the disk geometry that FreeBSD's fdisk returned to me. Following that I installed Windows98 on the first partition of 12GB. I checked with the Windows98 fdisk program, and indeed it finds the 4 partitions mentioning that the 3 last ones are non-DOS. The problem is that when I use the Windows explorer to see what is the available space for my C drive (FAT32 partition), I get that available for C are 39GB, i.e. the whole of my hard disk and not just the FAT32 partition. Despite that, it reports the C volume label to be the same name as that reported by the Windows98 fdisk! So, I wonder what is happening? Is it just a bug in the Windows Explorer or the actual Windows will expand further than their allocated 12GB partition when they have no space and delete my Debian and FreeBSD stuff when I install them there? Has anyone installed both Debian and Windows98 on the same large disk and came across anything similar? Cheers Dimitris
Problems with the shaper modules.
Hello. i am trying to set up the shaper modules, following the istructions that I found with the linux kernel, without any success, so I have some questions: - I need in any case two or more network adapter ? (there is nothing to say yes or not into the docs) - I configured ip_alias, ip_forward and traffic shaper, there is anything else I need to activate in the kernel ? - I follow the man pages and use this options: shapecfg attach shaper0 eth0 shapecfg speed shaper0 64000 ifconfig shaper0 [my_ip] netmask [my_netmask] broadcast [my_broad] up route add -net [my_net] netmask [my_mask] dev shaper0 but it does not work. The main difference is that I am trying on the eth0 dev, and the docs say to use eth1, so I think I need two network adapters, Am I correct ? Someone can suggest at least some documentation about this problem (i already check the kernel documentation and the docs of the shapecfg program). Thanks in advance bye Gianluca -- Home Page Contro i brevetti del sw Boicotta Microsoft www.infinito.it/utenti/chewbe no-patents.prosa.it/ www.boycott-ms.org/ If we have to file a thousand lawsuits a day, we'll do it. It's less expensive than losing CONTROL of YOUR creative works. ---Jack Valenti, President and CEO, Motion Picture Association of America
Servlets and Apache
Hi guys I am looking for starting pointers on setting up Servlets on Apache. Anyone got some useful links handy for that? From what versions on is Apache servlet-capable? Thanks Sven -- The UNIX Guru's view of sex: unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount sleep
Background mail transfers
I normally work within a window manager environment (mostly KDE) when using Debian Potato and have used KMail to download mail directly from my ISP pop3 accounts. I recently decided to setup fetchmail to poll my pop3 mail servers in the background, download any waiting mail and pass it on to procmail for sorting into appropriate folders and then access these folders using KMail. This works well but I have realised recently that, because this is now happening in the background, if I disconnect from my ISP without thinking I can cut a mail download off in mid-stream. I have half an e-mail to prove it. Can anyone suggest a way to prevent this apart from running Fetchmail manually? Barry Samuels
How stable is WINE?
Hey, I'm waiting for the new Debian to come out, and I need some information about WINE. In Potato, how stable is WINE? Does it run better than windoze? Also, What's the speed like, is it as fast as the app would run in windoze? Thanks, Cameron Matheson
RE: Problem with Samba after upgrade to frozen
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Hi, IIRC, that is a bug with the 2.0.x kernels and the newer samba. If you are running a 2.0.x kernel, try changing to a 2.2.x one. I am running a 2.0.x kernel. If it's as simple as that, then I'll certainly do it (one of the reasons for moving up to frozen was go use the 2.2 kernel anyway). As an aside, what changes are required to use a 2.4 kernel? Anything? No changes are needed for kernel 2.3.x/2.4.x (kernel 2.4 is still under heavy development, despite being called 2.4), as long as you use potato. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien
Re: Background mail transfers
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Barry Samuels wrote: I normally work within a window manager environment (mostly KDE) when using Debian Potato and have used KMail to download mail directly from my ISP pop3 accounts. I recently decided to setup fetchmail to poll my pop3 mail servers in the background, download any waiting mail and pass it on to procmail for sorting into appropriate folders and then access these folders using KMail. This works well but I have realised recently that, because this is now happening in the background, if I disconnect from my ISP without thinking I can cut a mail download off in mid-stream. I have half an e-mail to prove it. Can anyone suggest a way to prevent this apart from running Fetchmail manually? Barry Samuels Well, I'm sure there are a lot of ways around this. What I do is to use diald to allow on demand connections to my ISP. I then have a cron job that runs fetchmail periodically to get the mail about 4 times a day. Additionally I wrote a little perl script that runs when I log in (started by kde) that will get mail if the network connection is up every 10 minutes. diald is a nice solution as you are not controlling connection. When fetchmail, or any other application requiring network access, is finished, diald will end the connection. diald allows one to do other things automatically also. I run leafnode so my machine is a USENET news server. leafnode gets the news in the middle of the night and I can read it from a local disk whenever I want to and not have to put up with downloading news in real time.
Re: Background mail transfers
Barry Samuels writes: ...if I disconnect from my ISP without thinking I can cut a mail download off in mid-stream. This should not cause any problems as fetchmail will not tell the server to delete the message until it has received the whole thing and successfully delivered it. Truncated messages will be fetched again at the next opportunity. I have half an e-mail to prove it. Was it delivered to the user at your end? Was it deleted from the server? If so, you've found a bug. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Background mail transfers
hmm.. surely fetchmail normally would take this in stride, re-fetching the message next time ?
Re: difference between running perl from command line and web
I've been having this difficulty as well, although i'm not convinced it's a pre 5.005 - 5.005 change (i think i've been at 5.005 the entire time). What i would suggest (and did in my case) was to change from using a `lynx` to using the LWP modules. perldoc LWP::UserAgent. -m On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 02:32:55PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote: $output = `echo name=value | lynx -post_data -dump www.blah.com/cgi-bin/blah.cgi`; Now, with earlier perl versions, this works from both command line and web(as an cgi program). However, recently, I upgraded to perl5.005 and now it only works from command line and not web anymore. -- Michael Urman [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: 1024g/55C56706 : C3D7 2A8F 6261 3DE4 F544 6DC3 A1D5 BEF6 156F 65A4 mwr#debian bsd is also responsible for porn nets, then, too? Groovy.
Re: How stable is WINE?
I tried the potato wine a few days ago and it was basically useless. The only thing it could sort of run was the windows calculator and even then it had trouble. Anyone had better luck? -chris On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I'm waiting for the new Debian to come out, and I need some information about WINE. In Potato, how stable is WINE? Does it run better than windoze? Also, What's the speed like, is it as fast as the app would run in windoze? Thanks, Cameron Matheson -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: How stable is WINE?
If it helps at all, I tried WINE few month ago off their site, building from source. Had quite a good success with it (Was able to run Starcraft, MS Word95). Not sure what version potato has, though. If you want the latest one, try it off the www.winehq.com Andrei First there was Explorer. Then came Expedition. This summer coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. - Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arshes.dyndns.org UIN 12402354 For GPG key, go to above URL/GnuPG -
Re: Howto start X server on psuedo-tty or a FIFO
Dinesh Nadarajah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DN Is it possible to start the X server (and hence all DN the apps that run under it) on a psuedo-tty or a FIFO DN device? This doesn't make sense. What are you really trying to do? DN When X starts up, it run on tty1 or something like that. Normally, the XFree86 server grabs a virtual console, since its display needs to go *somewhere*. There's not really a way to get around this, nor should there be.[1] DN I would like to run on a psuedo-tty or a FIFO so that it can DN receive all input from them. Normally, the X server gets input from a keyboard, and a mouse, and whatever X clients connect to this. There's no way to funnel all of this over a single FIFO. So...? [1] The Xvfb server has no display at all, so it doesn't need a tty. The Xnest server displays to a window; it's both an X client and an X server. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Enlightenment and X
Hello (Pardon my newbie-ness on this topic) 1) I can get into enlightenment fine; after having executed enlightenment.install. I have some basic KDE stuff installed also. Is that necessary? 2) In enlightenment, the screen looks somewhat unclear; it 'flicker' slightly. How to solve that? This is visible particularly when having some (white-ish) options pane open. I have an ATI Rage Pro 8MB card which should be just fine for X / Enlightenment, right? I mean in terms of performance. 3) Are there any *good* apps that I *need* to have? :) AFAIS, I just *love* eterm. Great stuff! :) Thanks in advance Sven -- MACINTOSH: Most Applications Crash; If Not, The Operating System Hangs
Re: How stable is WINE?
Potato Wine package can be very outdated. Quoting Andrei Ivanov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): If it helps at all, I tried WINE few month ago off their site, building from source. Had quite a good success with it (Was able to run Starcraft, MS Word95). Not sure what version potato has, though. If you want the latest one, try it off the www.winehq.com Andrei First there was Explorer. Then came Expedition. This summer coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. - Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arshes.dyndns.org UIN 12402354 For GPG key, go to above URL/GnuPG - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
bugs during install of Potato TC2
Package: boot-floppies Version: kernel 2.2.15, potato test cycle 2 i386 Architecture: i386 model: PII 233MHz, chipset 440BX RAM: 128MB SCSI: Adaptec Ultra 160 In CD1 Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 Potato - test-cycle-2 i386 french doc: Installer Debian Linux 2.2 sur Intel x86 version 2.2.15, 06 June,2000 I have found some mistakes: - Page 10, Chapter 2.5.3, the line containing the ftp url does not fit in the page and is truncated - Page 24, Chapter 5.3 the line containing the http url //http.us.debian.org/debian... does not fit in the page and is truncated - Page 26, Chapter 5.3 the line describing fdisk.txt and cfdisk.txt does not fit in the page. - Page 32, chapter 6.1 the end of the line speaking about IBP PS/1 does not fit in the page: hd=cylindres,têtes,secteurs. - Page 34, chapter 6.6 the line containing the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not fit in the page. - Page 34, chapter 6.6 some lines when describing a bug report does not fit in the page: the line that contains scsi: nom de votre controleur... the line that contains cd-rom: modèle de votre cdrom ... the line that contains carte réseau: ... - Page 42, chapter 7.16: Le moment de vérité: .In case of installing from a CDROM, you must say to the user to eject the floppy and the cdrom .you must say something about MD5 menu .you must say something about Shadow passwords menu: the chapter 7.19 is misplaced in the document, because Debian installer asked to me about shadow password before asking for a root password. - Page 44, chapter 7.21: a little mistake in the french text: replace Ensuite, vous allez arrivé by Ensuite, vous allez arriver - Page 44, chapter 7.21: a little mistake in the french text: replace souvenez de passer l'étape by souvenez vous de passer l'étape - Page 44, chapter 7.21: a little mistake in the french text, in the line containing Sinon, vous pouvez quitter dselect et reprendre plus tard on the word tard and in the next sentence: une fois que vous aurez récupéré les paquets Debian sur votre système in the word sur - Page 45, chapter 7.23, a little mistake in the french text: replace diificulté by difficulté - Page 45, chapter 7.23, le line speaking on /etc/chatscripts does not fit in the page. - The chapter 7.23 on PPP is misplaced: I have been asked on PPP configuration after PCMCIA (chapter 7.20) - A chapter about Apt configuration should be written, after the new PPP chapter. The chapters order should be: PCMCIA,PPP,Apt configuration - A big problem: During install, I have never seen a menu for choosing Profiles Thank you for your good work -- --- Manuel Segura Responsable Informatique de l'ESCPI ESCPI - CNAM ---
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Eudora mail client behind MASQ'ing debian?
Eudora 4.3 sounds like the best option. http://www.eudora.com/ Please - why so many masqerading layers? Who is dialing-up who? Where is her mail server in relation to the masq boxes? At 09:44 AM 7/18/00 -0600, you wrote: i have a client going trough the roof cause she can't send any mail with Eudora (v3.01 or around there). her machine is behind a debian box (potato not-so-current, k2.2.14) which masq's. that potato box is behind another one that masq's her (same potato), which in turn is behind a really old POS slakware 4.0, kernel 2.0.33 which masq's everything to the net. i remember that like 3 months ago (when we installed their network) she had the same prob, i read around a bit, remember seeing something about eudora having probs behind masq'ing boxen running linux. but then she stopped complaining and told us the prob was fixed, so we didn't care. a week ago she starts calling again, bitchin every five minutes. so the question is: is there a prob with eudora? or should i look in the linux boxen? more info: if she dials-up, she can send mail. with outlook express i can send mail. her box got rebuild like two weeks ago, and since then eudora craps out ('Connection Refused' error) when sending mail. i can send mail telnetting to port 25 of her mail server, so the rules are fine (i guess). TIA, Alberto Brealey. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Criggie
Re: Enlightenment and X
Hello Yet more Qs: 1) How to get the middle mouse working in enlightenment? I had it working under KDE before. (Logitech PS/2 mouse) 2) How do I choose backgrounds from those -theme-whatever packages? They are installed, yet I can't find a way to choose them. It seems I cannot do that in Desktop Background Settings. eterm is really cute. Thanks Sven -- The program required me to install Windows 95 or better ... ... so I installed Linux.
Re: Enlightenment and X
God, sorry this'll be the last time I post another mail on the same topic without waiting for answers. :) 1) Is there any browser I can use in enlightenment? I dont particularly *like* Netscape, so are there any other options? (not lynx - I *need* / want graphics) 2) Is there any way to 'enhance' mutt slightly within X? I mean, do you guys just start it within a console in X or what? Again, thanks. Sven -- L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
minicom connection to router
looking for some help in making minicom 1.82.1. connect via a serial connection to cisco router. hope i don't offend anyone because i'm using redhat. a friend i work with raves about debian and suggested this list... *running redhat 6.1 *when launching minicom, modem in initialized. modem is on /dev/ttyS3 and able to dial out through minicom just fine. *have tried going into minicom -s and changing serial setup to ttyS1 and ttyS2 with no luck. *have tried seyon with no better results--but not sure about setup in seyon. thanks for any help! michelle -- * Michelle Wood Berbee 5520 Research Park Drive Madison, WI 53711 Phone (608)288-3000 Fax (608) 288-3007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Berbee...Putting the E in Business!
Re: Enlightenment and X
* Sven Burgener in Re: Enlightenment and X dated 2000/07/18 21:13 * wrote: Hello Yet more Qs: 1) How to get the middle mouse working in enlightenment? I had it working under KDE before. (Logitech PS/2 mouse) Are you starting X differently? xdm vs. startx maybe? But it should be defined in your /etc/X11/XF86Config, meaning it should work whether you're using KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, fvwm, or any other WM. 2) How do I choose backgrounds from those -theme-whatever packages? They are installed, yet I can't find a way to choose them. It seems I cannot do that in Desktop Background Settings. When I click my middle mouse button and go to the Desktop menu there is an option called backgrounds. This menu is built when E starts based on the files under ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds, so you can place any personal images there and restart E to have it load them. -- Ashley Clark GCS/M d- s:-- a-- C++$ UL$ P L+++ E W++ N+ o K++ w O M V-- PS+(++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++(+++) t* 5+ X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D G e* h* r++ y+ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for GPG public keyhttp://ghoti.org/ pgpRHGX52kGwV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Enlightenment and X
Hey Sven, yes Enlightenment ownsif you can get your middle working in E let me know, I have the same ps/2 mouseman + and cant for the life of me get it working in E or any other WM for that matter. For desktop backgrounds drop the jpgs or bmps in ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds...then you can right click and choose desktop options or something and change it there. - Original Message - From: Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Enlightenment and X Hello Yet more Qs: 1) How to get the middle mouse working in enlightenment? I had it working under KDE before. (Logitech PS/2 mouse) 2) How do I choose backgrounds from those -theme-whatever packages? They are installed, yet I can't find a way to choose them. It seems I cannot do that in Desktop Background Settings. eterm is really cute. Thanks Sven -- The program required me to install Windows 95 or better ... ... so I installed Linux. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Enlightenment and X
* Sven Burgener in Re: Enlightenment and X dated 2000/07/18 21:18 * wrote: 1) Is there any browser I can use in enlightenment? I dont particularly *like* Netscape, so are there any other options? (not lynx - I *need* / want graphics) You can try Mozilla, I've been using the one in woody now for the last couple of months with only a few annoyances. Mainly, secure sites don't work and occasionally if I push it hard enough it will come tumbling down. 2) Is there any way to 'enhance' mutt slightly within X? I mean, do you guys just start it within a console in X or what? Personally I use a translucent Eterm that automatically starts mutt with some predefined menus, look in the /usr/share/Eterm/themes/mutt directory for an example to start with. -- Ashley Clark GCS/M d- s:-- a-- C++$ UL$ P L+++ E W++ N+ o K++ w O M V-- PS+(++) PE(++) Y+ PGP++(+++) t* 5+ X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D G e* h* r++ y+ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for GPG public keyhttp://ghoti.org/ pgpM9TSQg5XwU.pgp Description: PGP signature
X Terminals
Hi, I am trying to set up an x terminal. The way I used to do this is install xdm on the host, then run X -query host on the client. Now on my potato machines I get XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling. Any ideas? -Matt-
Re: X Terminals
Never mind, I found it, I had to edit Xaccess. Thanks anyways, -Matt- On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Matt Kopishke wrote: Hi, I am trying to set up an x terminal. The way I used to do this is install xdm on the host, then run X -query host on the client. Now on my potato machines I get XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling. Any ideas? -Matt-
Upgrade openssl .deb? or purge old ver and install new?
Hi, Just hoping for a little guidance before I upgrade both ssl and ssh. With a new (Potato-based, linux-2.2.16) firewall in place between my SDSL connection and my internal network, I now want to open a secure telnet connection (port 22) to and from the outside, and to close the regular telnet connection (port 23). To accomplish that, I've downloaded openssh-2.1.1p4 from http://www.openssh.com/. Since that requires openssl-9.9.5a, I also added http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free to my /etc/apt/sources.list so I can apt-get it. Currently, I have openssh-1.2.3-8, openssl-0.9.4-5, apache-ssl, and apache-perl on the firewall -- all installed via apt-get. I've run 3 apt-get simulations: 1.) apt-get --simulate install openssl -- which says it will upgrade openssl and add 1 required library, libssl095a. 2.) apt-get --simulate remove openssl -- which says it will remove apache-perl, apache-ssl and openssl, and install php3, apache-dev and apache-common. 3.) apt-get --simulate remove ssh -- which says it will just remove ssh. The only fly in the ointment (that I can see) is that I accepted the default expiration on the temporary certificate I made for apache-ssl back in April, so it has expired. --- Okay, here's my question(s): Since there is no .deb file (AFAICT) for openssh-2.1.1p4, I'm going to have to apt-get remove (or dpkg --purge) ssh anyway and install the new version from source. Would there be any advantage to going to the extra trouble of removing/purging and re-installing openssl, apache-ssl and apache-perl? Besides, that is, getting the opportunity to create new certificates and keys now that I know a little more about how to do that? Of course, if the openssl upgrade gave me the same opportunity, that would clinch it for me. And one bug-a-boo, I _know_ I have seen a version of the openssl tookit saying it _includes_ the ssh functionalities, but for the life of me I can't re-locate that source. Was I dreaming? Any guidance would be vastly appreciated -- especially if there are better, simpler ways to go about updating the security features on the firewall which, btw, is a 486DX, 64Mb RAM, 514Mb HDD machine running Potato on a 2.2.16 kernel (with vague notions of bumping up to 2.4.0-test5, which is humming along nicely on my P II box, because I _love_ them iptables). Thanks in advance for any help, and for your patience with montefin