Re: Gnome Y WMaker
Carlos ha escrito: Yo uso el wmaker+gnome en slink sin nigún problema. Quizá si pruebas a compilar el wmaker con la opción gnome en el configure del wmaker no tendrás problemas. O conseguir el wmaker-gnome en paquete .deb: (carldeb:~\csalda-dpkg -s wmaker-gnome Package: wmaker-gnome Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 475 Maintainer: Chris McKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: wmaker Version: 0.61.1-0.slink.0 Depends: libc6, libjpeg62, libpng2, libproplist0, libtiff3g, libungif3g (= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (= 3.0-5.2), xlib6g (= 3.3.2.3a-2), xpm4g (= 3.4j-0), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3), wmaker (= 0.61.1-0.slink.0), cpp, libproplist0 (= 0.9.1) Description: wmaker with GNOME support...) Donde puedo encontrar el WMaker-Gnome ?? lo busque en los paquetes de Debian pero no lo encontre, tambien uso la Slink. Una pregunta mas ?? donde tengo que poner los archivos *.deb para instalarlos ?? en /usr/local/share ? en var/cache/apt/archives ? para instalarlos solo tengo que usar el dpkg -i desde el directorio donde estan ?? los archivos *.tar.gz donde tengo que ponerlos para instalarlos ?? intente instalar el Samba (.deb) pero al intentar instalar el Swat me dio error de que no se podia configurar debido a que no se habia encontrado el cliente samba. alguien sabe a que se debe esto ?? Salud. Saludos a todos. JFreak. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Consolas
Hola Lista :) Una pregunta novata... Instale el freepascal y para utilizar una ide instale el rhide pero este tiene problemas con el teclado (no se puede usar correctamente desde el xterm) escribi pidiendo ayuda y esta fue la respuesta: You should run rhide on a console, not in an xterm or an other subshell. Mi pregunta es: en que consola podria ser ?? que tengo que hacer ?? Gracias a todos desde ya. JFreak. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Consolas
JFreak wrote: You should run rhide on a console, not in an xterm or an other subshell. Mi pregunta es: en que consola podria ser ?? que tengo que hacer ?? Pulsa las 3 teclas: Ctrl, Alt y F1 (o F2,...,F6) simultaneamente para entrar en la consola número 1 (o 2,...,6). Usa allí el rhide y cuando quieras regresar a la sesión gráfica pulsa Alt y F7 simultaneamente. No te olvides que las sesiones que tengas en diferentes consolas son independientes y si no ejecutas logout permanecerán abiertas. Saludos, Jaime
Re: Una webcam espía
31 wrote: Alguno de vosotros ha montado un sistema de seguridad-espía con una webcam. La historia es que tiene que grabar toda la noche y la webcam esta a 20-30 metros del ordenador. ¿Existe forma de hacer algo económico y que de algun resultado? Nos han entrado a robar por 3º vez:((( Hola borxa, El año pasado tuve que hacer algo muy semejante para una installation party; la idea era que los que no pudieran asistir al evento tuvieran una imagen actualizada que pudieran consultar en la web, pero al mismo tiempo guardar un resumen de todo el evento para después hacer una película. El programa perl que hice es bastante simple y te lo pongo aquí para poder comentarlo: ## #!/usr/bin/perl ($secs, $mins, $hour, $day, $mo, $year) = localtime (time); while (1){ ($secs, $mins, $hour, $day, $mo, $year) = localtime (time); system('/usr/bin/qcam -q 75 -J/var/www/lip-image.jpg'); $i++; unless ($i%4) { $dir = archive$hour; $file = $dir/image$hour:$mins:$secs.jpg; system('mkdir '.$dir) unless (-d $dir); system('cp /var/www/lip-image.jpg '.$file); } sleep 1; } # (copialo en un fichero ejecutable) Lo que hace el programa es capturar una imagen cada segundo (aproximadamente, pues ademas de sleep 1 que espera un segundo, hay que sumar el tiempo de ejecución de los otros comandos). Esta imagen se coloca en /var/www/lip-image.jpg para que quede disponible en la web. Cada cuarta imagen (puedes controlar este parametro cambiando el $i%4) se graba en un directorio con nombre archiveXX, donde XX es la hora, y con un nombre imageHH:MM:SS.jpg, donde HH, MM, SS son la hora, minutos y segundos. Cada hora se crea un nuevo directorio. Con esos valores, en un pentium A6 166MHz, quedaron grabadas imagenes cada 3 segundos; cada imagen ocupó unos 10 kbytes y para cada hora necesité unos 10 Mbytes de espacio en disco. Lo mejor es que experimentes y veas que valores necesitas y que opciones para el qcam o el programa de captura que uses. Saludos, Jaime P.S. Si pones las imagenes al vivo en la red, cuentanos para ayudarte con tu vigilancia. Y si atrapas al ladrón por favor cuentanos y muestranos la evidencia; ya me estoy imaginando una noticia espectacular en Barrapunto: Debian ayudó a descubrir a los ladrones!
RE: Conexion puerto paralelo
- Mensaje original - De: Javier Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado: Martes, 08 de Agosto de 2000 10:45 a.m. Asunto: Re: Conexion puerto paralelo On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia wrote: Para conectar dos ordenadores por el puerto paralelo hay que usar un cable laplink. Sabeis si para este menester serviria tambien el cable de la impresora que poseo. Deseo hacer unas pruebas y si esto fuera posible no tendria que comprar el cable laplink. Gracias Si no recuerdo mal en la pagina de lucas o insflug esta mi documento titulado Rapido-plip, ahi explica como efectuar una conexion por puerto paralelo desde linux. Si no lo encuentras dimelo y te lo envio. Pues no lo encuentro. He mirado en Lucas (manuales,tutoriales, etc) y no aparece. Si no te importa mandamelo cuando puedas. Gracias. Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Programa para monitorear la temperatura de la cpu
JFA wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 11:03:14AM -0400, Miguel Angel Rodríguez wrote: Hola. Pues eso. Alguien conoce algún programa para monitorear la temperatura de la cpu y de la placa base. Esta información la tengo en la bios, pero la necesito en mi entorno de trabajo. Creo que lo que buscas está en Debian bajo el nombre de: lm-sensors - Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors Suerte -- También hay una applet muy bonita para window maker llamada WMsensors, tiene la ventaja de que permanece en tu escritorio. -- * De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran. * En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora * perdi mi libertad. Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka
Re: Gnome Y WMaker
JFreak wrote: Donde puedo encontrar el WMaker-Gnome ?? lo busque en los paquetes de Debian pero no lo encontre, tambien uso la Slink. Se encuentran en la versión 2.1r5, así que si tienes una anterior deberás bajarlo de internet. Una pregunta mas ?? donde tengo que poner los archivos *.deb para instalarlos ?? en /usr/local/share ? en var/cache/apt/archives ? para instalarlos solo tengo que usar el dpkg -i desde el directorio donde estan ?? los archivos *.tar.gz donde tengo que ponerlos para instalarlos ?? intente instalar el Samba (.deb) pero al intentar instalar el Swat me dio error de que no se podia configurar debido a que no se habia encontrado el cliente samba. alguien sabe a que se debe esto ?? Lo que yo hice fue crear un directorio /usr/local/debs, y dentro de el armar toda la estructura del ftp debian dentro. Luego copié el scrip jscanpacks (que no estoy seguro si viene en el C.D. o lo bajé de internet) en ese directorio. Lo ejecuté para generar el Packages.gz y luego agregué la entrada en el /etc/apt/sources.list. Se que suena enredado, pero no lo es. -- * De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran. * En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora * perdi mi libertad. Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka
backup de mails
Pues que queria guardar mis email en backups, los tengo en modo maildir, asique no se muy bien como hacer ... ¿ Alguna sugerencia ? Gracias. -- Saludos a tos tos Javier Fafián Alvarez | Te pasas la vida haciendo planes, en un AMD-K6II a 350| pero la vida ya tiene sus RAM 64 Mb kernel 2.2.16 | propios planes ... Con Linux Debian woody (unestable) | -- JFA --
Re: Una webcam espía
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 12:50:10PM +0200, 31 wrote: Alguno de vosotros ha montado un sistema de seguridad-espía con una webcam. La historia es que tiene que grabar toda la noche y la webcam esta a 20-30 metros del ordenador. ¿Existe forma de hacer algo económico y que de algun resultado? Nos han entrado a robar por 3º vez:((( -- Saludos borxa ;) En gpul www.gpul.org tiene una - en plan coña - y en su página web les puedes ver cuando están adentro. Asique no creo que sea muy difícil, en todo caso puedes preguntar. -- Saludos a tos tos Javier Fafián Alvarez | Te pasas la vida haciendo planes, en un AMD-K6II a 350| pero la vida ya tiene sus RAM 64 Mb kernel 2.2.16 | propios planes ... Con Linux Debian woody (unestable) | -- JFA --
Re: [FdT][OT] pobre gente
El martes 08 de agosto de 2000 a la(s) 17:17:00 -0400, Blu contaba: Me hizo acordarme del chiste ese que explica como cambia Bill Gates una ampolleta (bombilla para los europeos); no la cambia, transforma la obscuridad en estandar. :^? ¿Dónde está eso? que quiero reirme un rato :^)). -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgptE4UoQJkSj.pgp Description: PGP signature
problemas al recompilar kernel
Javier : Gracias por el apunte. Andaba trasteando por los scripts de arranque. No he usado isapnp directamente, (se me hace excesivamente complicado y hay una aviso en la man de posible reseteo de todas las tarjetas ). Lo que he hecho es meter modprobe /lib/modules/2.0.36/net/ne.o io=0x340 como primera linea en el script /etc/init.d/isapnp y ahora detecta la tarjeta e inicia correctamente la red. El problema parece ser que buscaba una tarjeta pci para ne.o y al no detectarla configuraba la otra como eth0. No se si es un poco chapucero pero no me da errores y configura correctamente. Si tienes alguna sugerencia cuentamela. Un saludo. Cesar.
Re: Gnome Y WMaker
JFreak decía: Donde puedo encontrar el WMaker-Gnome ?? lo busque en los paquetes de Debian pero no lo encontre, tambien uso la Slink. Creo que te dije que yo lo conseguí en un cd de la dist storm. Para no aburrir al resto de la lista, si no quieres pasarte por la güeb de storm para bajarte los paquetes me mandas un correo personal y te mando ambos a tu buzón. Tu mismo. Ya dije que no los tenías en los cd's de tu slink. Y si quieres me dices tu dirección postal y te mando el cd de la storm para que cargues todo el gnome (wmaker e icewm incluidos). Si yo no tuve problemas y me funciona de perlas... el Cd en cuestión venía en un número del linux journal. Salud. -- carlos saldaña [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DHCP
Listeros como estan... espero que bien lo que queria saber cuales son los beneficios y las desventajas de tener la red con DHCP,,, porque se usa DHCP? tengo una lan akika en mi casa y no he puesto los clientes DHCP ni mi server DHCP pues no se pa que... gracias, como sabria que ip es cada maquina o como las ubicaria?
Re: Campus-Party
El Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:57:59AM +0200, Jordi Mallach dijo: ... Perdonad el off-topic y saludos para todos. Te he buscado, pero no se como encontrarte entre tanto monitor. Cuando estoy en la cac, estoy en el rinconcito de la organización (las mesas del principio de todo que miran al contrario que el resto). Allí hay un grupúsculo de Debianeros, seguro que alguno está leyendo estoy ya. Yo iré mañana por la tarde, como ya es tradición. Yo tambien pasare, junto con un colega linuxero que viene de Elche. Pero sera el sabado, entre las 18:00h y las 19:00. No conozco a nadie pero ya buscare ya... Andrés, lleva tu clave gpg, eh? :) -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, Un saludo. Alfredo. -- Linux registered user #98432 Running Debian/GNU Linux 2.1 with kernel 2.2.16 Homepage at http://darkd.virtualave.net
Re: Campus-Party
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 11:25:09PM +0200, Alfredo Casademunt wrote: Yo tambien pasare, junto con un colega linuxero que viene de Elche. Pero sera el sabado, entre las 18:00h y las 19:00. No conozco a nadie pero ya buscare ya... Mañana debe ser el último día que podré estar por allí. No es seguro que el viernes no pueda, pero es improbable. -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, aka Oskuro in|| [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Using Debian GNU/Linux Reinos de Leyenda || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://debian.org http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpIDME1QREzb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xdm, runlevels y xconsole
Camilo Alejandro Arboleda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Es muy sencillo, en los directorios /etc/rc[2-5].d encuentras enlaces simbólicos a los diferentes scrips de inicialización que están en /etc/init.d. La aplicación init llama a cada uno de estos scrips según el runlevel deseado. Para obtener lo mismo que tu quieres simplemente fui al /etc/rc2.d y eliminé la entrada para el xdm. Después fui al /etc/lilo.conf y agregé una entrada así: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.1 label=Text append=2 read-only Así puedo entrar en modo de texto cuando es necesario. Para lograr otras configuraciones mas complejas necesitaras revisar que hace cada script ;) Esto es precisamente lo que yo quería hacer, lo que quería saber es si debian tenía algún tipo de política en cuanto a qué runlevel asignar a cada tipo de cosa, pero según parece deja libre al usuario para que lo haga como mejor le parezca (algo más por lo que debian es la distribución más libre ;-) Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) Emacs is a religion (take a look at alt.religion.emacs), it's not your typical software. You should study it like The Bible and one day you will believe in it. -- from a post in comp.emacs
Re: xdm, runlevels y xconsole
Hue-Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: El sábado 05 de agosto de 2000 a la(s) 18:23:56 +0200, David Muriel contaba: Acabo de instalar el xdm y me ha surgido un problema con xconsole. Antes del xdm me funcionaba bien tanto como root como de usuario normal. Sin embargo ahora, al ejecutar xconsole me dice: Couldn't open /dev/console Aquí no te puedo ayudar ya que yo uso la xconsole sólo para mostrar mensajes de syslog, y no uso /dev/console para nada. De momento lo soluciono ejecutándolo como root, ya buscaré otra forma de hacerlo. viendo el contenido de los /etc/rc[2-5].d/ veo que tienen lo mismo. ¿Donde puedo encontrar información sobre esto? apt-get install debian-policy # :^) 3.3. System run levels Ya lo había mirado y sólo dice que son multiusuario, nada más. Será que debian deja libertad al usuario para que lo ponga como quiera ;-) Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! Ah, así que fuiste tú el capullín del virus!! :^D -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! Ups! Es que desde que ya no uso los pseudo programas de M$ ya me había olvidado de lo que era un virus ;-) Ahora mismo lo arreglo: $: mount /mnt/win95 -o rw $: rm -rf /mnt/win95 X-DD Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) ``A mi la mayor ida de tarro me sucedió cuando, esperando el autobús, me dí cuenta de que tenia que comprar el periódico. Pero no queria perder el autobús, así que la primera idea que se me ocurrió fue fácil, me dejo aquí esperando el autobús en background, y mientras me acerco al quiosco (!!). No me acuerdo que tomaba por entonces.'' -- por man en un comentario en http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=100/06/24/1857221
s.o.s
por favor tengo una impresora LEXMARK 1000 COLOR JEPRINTER y no pudo instalar desde el windows 98 si por favor me indican en donde podria sacar el instalador les agradesco muchisimo att.flaviov Ecuador
Re: s.o.s
Quien:Flavio Villavicencio Cuando: miércoles, 09 de agosto del 2000, a las 06:46, Qué: s.o.s por favor tengo una impresora LEXMARK 1000 COLOR JEPRINTER y no pudo instalar desde el windows 98 si por favor me indican en donde podria sacar el instalador les agradesco muchisimo att.flaviov Ecuador Flavio, ¿podrías comentarnos como es que llega este correo a la lista de usuarios de Debian en castellano...? Es que no es normal que en una lista sobre Linux, nos lleguen este tipo de preguntas ... Gracias por la contestación ... -- =8= ___ _ / ___|_ _| (_) ___ Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias | | _| | | | | |/ __| Pasate por nuestro web | |_| | |_| | | | (__ http://www.gulic.org/ \|\__,_|_|_|\___| Clave GPG en las paginas de Gulic Clave GPG en search.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = F734 17F5 3AB6 E1F6 11C4 B498 5B3E FEDF 90DF =8= pgppAd0d9ujuu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Reproducir CD de audio como usuario no root y problemas con midi
Hola Creo que en alguna ocasion se ha hablado del tema, pero he buscado en los archivos de la lista media mañana y no he encontrado lo que busco. Acabo de instalar y configurar la tarjeta de sonido. Tengo una SBVibra16 ISA, he usado isapnptools, compilado el nucleo y reproduzco y grabo .wav. Primer problema: playmidi -e -r fichero.mid me funciona, pero no oigo nada. He revisado el mixer y tiene volumen para el dispositivo midi. Segundo problema: no podia grabar y reproducir como usuario pero si como root. He agregado el usuario a audio y todo listo. Pero con el CD me pasa lo mismo. Lo puedo usar como root pero no como usuario. ¿Tengo que añadir a disk al usuario o que? Gracias y saludos. -- --- Andres Seco Hernandez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh - Mi pagina http://www.alamin.es.org - Alamin GSM SMS Gateway --- Microsoft Certified Product Specialist MCP ID 445900 Debian GNU Linux 2.1 (slink) - Linux Registered User no. 113867 --- 08/10 Chicago incorporated as a village of 300 people, 1833 08/10 US and Panama agree to transfer the canal in the year 2000, 1977 08/11 Dog days end 08/11 France Ends War in Indochina, 1954 08/11 Perseid meteor shower (look north; three days) pgpZ8OCMUlNyB.pgp Description: PGP signature
hosting y diseños
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Re: cedilha no xemacs
Opa! Quero sim! Não precisa perguntar duas vezes! ;-)) E obrigado! Itamar wrote: Marcelo, você quer que eu envie o .emacs? Mais aguém quer aproveitar a deixa? ;-) -- Marcelo Elias Del ValleUIN: 30595143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tilt.8m.com MLinuxer http://Evolution.sourceforge.net
procurando pacotes
Olá pessoal, Estou procurando entre os pacotes da debian um que me instale o comando dos2unix e não consigo encontrá-lo. Existe uma forma de procurar isto, assim como o apropos procura entre os pacotes já instalados? Se alguém já souber em qual pacote encontro o dos2unix, pode me falar também ;-) Obrigadão Itamar
DSELECT
All Por acaso alguem conhece algum programa que substitua o dselect no gerenciamento dos aquivos .deb ?!?! [ ]'s Cosmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackhour.com.br Hack Hour Inc.
httpd broke in woody?
I did a distupgrade a day or ago and today noticed my httpd was down. Here's what's in my error.log {0}:lh:/var/adm/apachecat error.log [Tue Aug 8 21:58:06 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) Debian/GNU configured -- resuming normal operations [Tue Aug 8 21:58:06 2000] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: /usr/lib/apache/suexec) Help? :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
upgrade to potato; tetex-bin depends
I have just tried to upgrade from stable to frozen. I did apt-get update, which worked except for one timed-out file. I did it again to get that file. I then did 'apt-get --fix-broken --show-upgraded dist-upgrade'. That seemed to go ok but stopped without asking very many configuration questions, and reporting 47 out of (about) 150 packages not installed. I repeated the above command but it reported the same thing. I then installed some of the 47, with dpkg, and that seemed to go normally. I then tried apt-get -f install and that reports Reading Package Lists ... Done Building Dependency Tree ... Done Correcting Dependencies and goes and goes and goes, using 99% cpu, for 5 or 10 or 20 minutes, which is as long as I've let it go before aborting it. I've installed most of the 47, but am stuck on tetex-bin. 'dpkg -i tetex-bin' reports 'tetex-bin depends on libz1, which is not installed'. I can't find libz1, but tetex-bin's depends, in the package archive, does include zlib1g. Should I let apt-get run as long as it wants? Is there a libz1? Am I done for? Thanks Charles Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Please reply directly as I am not a subscriber.)
Talent Contest
To Whom this is i am advertising a Talent Contest throught out hawkes bay could you help
Re: temporary allowing telnet to use x-windows
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 03:56:00AM +, john smith wrote: I would like to know how to temporarily allow a telnet session (bec. we're only on an intranet) to display the x-window. for example, a user telnets to the server using windows then he wants his x-window to display temporarily there..when he tries to startx, the x-server does not allow him to connect. how can this be accomplished easily? Lets try this: o User is on one machine in local network o Wants to connect to a second machine. I'm going to call these 10.1.0.1 and 10.1.0.2, respectively. User is 10.1.0.1, which is running an X session on display 0, and wants to telnet to 10.1.0.2, run an X client from 10.1.0.2 to 10.1.0.1. Do: telnet 10.1.0.2 (log in) $ export DISPLAY=10.1.0.1:0 $ xlogo ...xlogo should appear on user's *local* (10.1.0.1) display. ...if I've misunderstood your post, please clarify your question. One possible other interpretation is that you are trying to telnet *from* 10.1.0.1 to 10.1.0.2, and want to start an X session *on the remote host* (note that this ordinarily isn't viewable to the user). Generally, the file /etc/X11/Xserver disallows non-root users from initiating an X session unless they're sitting at the console. See this file for further information (its about a dozen lines). -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpiom20ZfcIf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Autostarting Apache and MySQL
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 11:23:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get Debian automatically to start, 1) MySQL and 2) Apache According to the FAQs, rc.local does not work and I am supposed to develop some scripts in /etc/init.d which take the arguments start', `stop', `reload', `restart' or `force-reload' First of all, all I want to do is to start these automatically upon boot up. I do not care about the stop, reload, restart, or force-reload and would prefer not to deal with them unless Debian insists. Secondly, precisely what language do I use. Eg: will the following, for Apache work: script #!/bin/bash /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start /script If this language will not work, what will? And can I omit this reload and other items about which I do not care. Also, of course, precisely what language do I need for MySQL? I understand that Debian automatically begins on run level 2. Do I need to worry about other runlevels? Duncan: If you install both these programs from Debian packages, the rc*.d init scripts will be configured for you automatically, and the services will start up on boot. You'll also be able to start, stop, reload, or restart them with: # /etc/init.d/myservice start|stop|reload|restart ...syntax. If this doesn't suit your fancy, take a look at /etc/init.d/skeleton and modify it to suit your needs (copy it, *then* modify it). -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgp6XYTYaWNSL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't mount CD-ROM SOLVED!!
It's working!! -- Make voyages, attempt them, there's nothing else. --Tennessee Williams
Re: Alien to .tar.gz
alien -t filename.rpm is the correct way. nate On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Andrew McRobert wrote: mcrobe hi mcrobe mcrobe Does anyone know the syntax to use 'alien' to convert from rpm to .tar.gz. mcrobe The man page says this can be done, but doesn't say how ... the closest mcrobe thing listed is alien -t [file] which produces [file].tgz ... mcrobe mcrobe tks mcrobe Andrew mcrobe mcrobe - mcrobe Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci) mcrobe IT Officer, School of Law mcrobe MURDOCH UNIVERSITY mcrobe Perth, Western Australia mcrobe Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479] mcrobe Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671] mcrobe e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mcrobe The lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math mcrobe mcrobe mcrobe -- mcrobe Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null mcrobe ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:31pm up 22 days, 6:08, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.12, 0.03
Re: httpd broke in woody?
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Robert L. Harris wrote: Robert I did a distupgrade a day or ago and today noticed my httpd was down. Robert Here's what's in my error.log Robert Robert Robert {0}:lh:/var/adm/apachecat error.log Robert [Tue Aug 8 21:58:06 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) Debian/GNU configured -- resuming normal operations Robert [Tue Aug 8 21:58:06 2000] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: /usr/lib/apache/suexec) There are no errors in that error log, just notices, as far as the log is concerned everything is running great. the problem must be elsewhere ... nate ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:31pm up 22 days, 6:08, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.12, 0.03
Re: Solved: update-alternatives -- changing preferences
kmself@ix.netcom.com said: rant That's the option which the manpage, in its verbosity, fails to make clear. Ok, there is a paragraph buried at the end of the DESCRIPTION section, but it's a bit buried. Examples here would be very useful. /rant I get the distinct impression that, because --config ignores the priority ratings, it's considered to be an 'inferior' way of handling things. I suspect that this bias against it is the reason that it is glossed over in the documentation. I also suspect that, since it's the only way to be sure that your preferences will never be changed by the installation of a new package, it's the way that most people would prefer to have their systems operate. I agree about the examples, though. The --install option, in particular, could stand to both be better documented (even just adding a sentence to the effect that --install is also used to change the details of existing options, not only to add new ones.) and have an example or two presented (typical usage appears to require passing two consecutive parameters with the same value, which seems like the wrong thing to do - might this be a design flaw?). I also suspect that --display claiming status is auto after --config has been used to force a certain option (a decidedly _non_-automatic mode of operation) should be considered a bug. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
re: temporary allowing telnet to use x-windows
ok...I'll try to clarify thisBasically, What I want is: o User is on one machine in local network (windows) O Wants to connect to a second machine (debian) user wants to telnet to debian (using windows) then wants to try to run x-window via telnet. how can these be done temporarily and easily? with no regard to security if it will make it easier... Does it make any sense? there is no particular reason why we want to do this other than just to try and make it work. ...if I've misunderstood your post, please clarify your question. One possible other interpretation is that you are trying to telnet *from* 10.1.0.1 to 10.1.0.2, and want to start an X session *on the remote host* (note that this ordinarily isn't viewable to the user). Generally, the file /etc/X11/Xserver disallows non-root users from initiating an X session unless they're sitting at the console. See this file for further information (its about a dozen lines). -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Alien to .tar.gz
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alien -t filename.rpm is the correct way. correct. to clarify a little: .tgz and .tar.gz are functionally the same kind of file on GNUish unix systems--in practice they behave the exact same. For example, 'gunzip foo.tgz' will uncompress the file foo.tgz, and automagically rename it 'foo.tar'. (This is a feature of gzip.) Aaron nate On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Andrew McRobert wrote: mcrobe hi mcrobe mcrobe Does anyone know the syntax to use 'alien' to convert from rpm to .tar.gz. mcrobe The man page says this can be done, but doesn't say how ... the closest mcrobe thing listed is alien -t [file] which produces [file].tgz ... mcrobe mcrobe tks mcrobe Andrew mcrobe mcrobe - mcrobe Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci) mcrobe IT Officer, School of Law mcrobe MURDOCH UNIVERSITY mcrobe Perth, Western Australia mcrobe Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479] mcrobe Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671] mcrobe e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mcrobe The lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math mcrobe mcrobe mcrobe -- mcrobe Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null mcrobe ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:31pm up 22 days, 6:08, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.12, 0.03 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: temporary allowing telnet to use x-windows
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 05:56:01AM +, john smith wrote: ok...I'll try to clarify thisBasically, What I want is: o User is on one machine in local network (windows) O Wants to connect to a second machine (debian) user wants to telnet to debian (using windows) then wants to try to run x-window via telnet. s/x-window/x client/ A given X application is called a client. You'll need an X server on the Windows box. Several are available, including Hummingbird Exceed, WRQ Reflection X, and others. how can these be done temporarily and easily? with no regard to security if it will make it easier... I provided this solution in my post. You may have to look into xhosts and Xauthority. RTFM or repost here. Note that what you're doing is **QUITE** insecure, and could provide worldwide access not only to data in transit between the boxes, but both the Linux and Windows desktops as well. I'd discovered this inadvertantly while playing with an X screenshot grabber pointed to a remote display -- it grabbed another user's X session -- which happened to be obscured by Windows, so I got their Windows desktop You do the math. A preferred alternative might be to use a VPN via an ssh channel: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ ...this gives you access to the Debian box, security (via ssh), session independence (your windows box dies -- so what). I'd recommend it. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpmsAbi1QM9p.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: struggle to install X on IBM netfinity 3000, s3 trio 3d card
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 04:48:49AM -0700, suresh kumar wrote: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I am struggling install X on a ibm netfinity 3000 series machine with potato. As per the setup it has the s3 trio3d video card. The card is there in the cardlist given by XF86Setup, but I am failing miserbaly.. Any ideas? Post your X Server error log and XF86Config file. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpWZ5NQsZKg0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't mount CD-ROM SOLVED!!
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 10:01:02PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: It's working!! That's rather less illuminating than information as to how you solved the problem. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpCUh8xcj94Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [off topic] Talent Contest
I can repel people with my dancing, do i qualify? On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, John Brooks wrote: To Whom this is i am advertising a Talent Contest throught out hawkes bay could you help -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
*delete* a default gw route?
I'm testing a firewall setup on my home system. Principle network connection is the internal modem of my desktop. I'm trying to route through my firewall box instead. While I can set up the network and add a default gw through the firewall, I don't seem to be able to remove the default entry corresponding to the ppp connection from my desktop. route delete default gw dialup-fqdn just hangs. Am I doing the right thing? Is this necessary? Ideally, I'd like to have the FW be the primary gateway, but use the second modem connection on an ad-hoc basis. I assume I'll need to do some sort of serial balancing or juggle with metrics to do this Typical routing table below: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface sji-ca-pm1.icg. * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 introspect * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 default sji-ca-pm1.icg. 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 Hmmm... thought occurs that sji-ca-pm1.icg. is truncated. Might that be a part of the problem? -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpoPs9J0mlJt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [off topic] Talent Contest
It probably doesn't help that I read this as a telnet contest, and was first repulsed by the insecure and obsolete nature of the post. Would that dance be a firewall dance, by any chance? On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 11:30:30PM -0700, Aaron Maxwell wrote: I can repel people with my dancing, do i qualify? On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, John Brooks wrote: To Whom this is i am advertising a Talent Contest throught out hawkes bay could you help -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpqir3tIOeId.pgp Description: PGP signature
ALERT: Yesterday's mailx broken? (version 1:8.1.1-10.1.2)
[Package maintainer has been cc'ed.] Hi there, I got alarmed when I wouldn't receive any logcheck output anymore. When I found out the reason I was quite puzzled. This echo test | mail -s test root doesn't work anymore. Is there any other interpretation apart from calling the mail binary broken? I'm running Debian 2.2 frozen plus a few unstable packages. Thanks, Ralf -- Sign the EU petition against SPAM: L I N U X .~. http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Proftpd - intial directories
hi all Quick question, I want to allow a user to log in for an ftp session but only have access to one specified directory ... ie. /var/www/ethics. Is there a short section I can add to the /etc/proftpd.conf file to accomplish this? thanks Andrew - Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci) IT Officer, School of Law MURDOCH UNIVERSITY Perth, Western Australia Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479] Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math
Re: Problem with procmail
without procmail, you get every mail only once? could you post you .procmailrc? I have some mails twice or more from time to time, but usually, there is no problem. These lines split the digests : : *^(Resent-Sender|Resent-From|From): [EMAIL PROTECTED] *^Subject:.*debian-(user|devel)-(digest|digest-digest) Digest.* | formail +1 -ds debian In fact, there *is* a problem with regard to GPG/PGP. If someone knows a workaround ? -- y.
[ShermanDMonroe@aol.com: cool trick]
Please take care. Regards, Joey -- This is Linux Country. On a quiet night, you can hear Windows reboot. ---BeginMessage--- I am a new Linux user. I have used dual monitors on my old PC (Windows OS) for various utilities. I'd like to try something new with my Linux workstation, but I don't know where to start. I have two monitors connected to one CPU, and I need to know what aspect of the Linux OS deals with the following function: 1) CPU display's input commands on one monitor, and display's output commands on another monitor 2) Allow me to select which monitor display's what data Is there a program out there that can let me do this? Where can I start to write a program to execute this function? My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanx alot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
Re: ALERT: Yesterday's mailx broken? (version 1:8.1.1-10.1.2)
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 09:29:26AM +0200, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: [Package maintainer has been cc'ed.] Hi there, I got alarmed when I wouldn't receive any logcheck output anymore. When I found out the reason I was quite puzzled. This echo test | mail -s test root doesn't work anymore. Is there any other interpretation apart from calling the mail binary broken? I'm running Debian 2.2 frozen plus a few unstable packages. yes that version of mail was indeed broken, any time you piped anything into its standard input it would segfault (apparently). the solution is quite simple: apt-get update apt-get install mailx which will upgrade to 1:8.1.1-10.1.3 which fixes the problem. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpcM67o6kWAL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ALERT: Yesterday's mailx broken? (version 1:8.1.1-10.1.2)
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:13:43 -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: [...] yes that version of mail was indeed broken, any time you piped anything into its standard input it would segfault (apparently). =20 the solution is quite simple: apt-get update apt-get install mailx which will upgrade to 1:8.1.1-10.1.3 which fixes the problem.=20 Thank you very much for this info. I should have tried that BEFORE I posted that message... :-) -- Sign the EU petition against SPAM: L I N U X .~. http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: IP in IP tunneling question
HI Victor, I can suggest you to use Vtun (you can also find deb pkg). I've a similar situation and it worked fine for me. it also support tunnel encryption and compression (funny only to download text nearly 2/3 times faster). Fabio Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: Hello list, [SNIP] -- _ ___ ____ ___ ___ _ __ _ _ __ _ |_ _|| _|| | | _|| _|| _ || \/ | | ||_ _|| _ || | | || _ | | | | _|| |_ | _|| |_ | _ || \/ | | | | | | _ || |_ | || _ | |_| |___||___||___||___||___||_||_| |_| |_| |_| |_||___||_||_| |_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] - South European @ccess Back Bone -- http://www.seabone.net/ --- Fabio Massimo Di Nitto | Debian GNU/Linux Woody 2.2.16 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | running on mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Laptop AMD K6-2 400Mhz 64Mb
Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?
Hi, On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Stefan Bellon wrote: A friend of mine runs Applixware 4.4.1 on his Debian system (mixture of potato and woody). But he says that it's quite buggy and looks outdated. But otherwise it performs quite well. For the installation he took the RPMs and alienated them to deb packages. Then he make a link from /opt to /usr/local before installing them with dpkg. I have got Applixware 4.4.1 running on my Alpha with potato installed and am a little bit surprised. This soft always seemed quite stable to me. I had trouble to install the RPMs under RedHat 5.2 using the install executable. So they were installed in fiddling out the dependencies and using the RedHat packet manager. Under Debian the contrary did happen: The install executable worked perfectly well, unpacking and installing the RPMs without conversion to *.deb on the Debian system. Now I'd like to know whether anybody has experience with the later Applixware 5 on Debian systems. Does it install without problems? I leave this to others to answer. I know that it's against the Debian GNU philosophy, but if there's no other application suite with the same features, then I think it's still better than using PowerPoint (that soft of application is the one I'm looking for at most) the other operating system. It should be up to everyone to decide. I am writing my publications on the machine. The stuff has to be exportable to Word. More and more journals insist on WinWord written text send on a floppy together with the printouts. With Applix, I just have to feed the rtf once into one of those Windows beasts at the institute to convert it to a real WinWord doc. (If they do not crash as soon as I just look at them. ;-) ) Regards, Kerstin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off topic] Talent Contest
And for Mulder and Scully - why is the original message not in my inbox? Do THEY have it? Is it being transmogrified into an SSH contest? Or *gasp* has Micros~1 kidnapped the message to Embrace and Extend? Will we be seeing MS Talent Contests where all authentication is NTLM-based??? All this and more... you know the drill. At 11:30 PM 8/8/00 -0700, you wrote: I can repel people with my dancing, do i qualify? On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, John Brooks wrote: To Whom this is i am advertising a Talent Contest throught out hawkes bay could you help -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Criggie
Re: Corel to Debian micro-howto
Aaron Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 6. KDE is now gone (CorelOS comes with a Corelized version of KDE, which you removed a few steps ago). In its stead, I installed gnome. [1] Install the necessary gnome stuff with this command: apt-get install gdm gnome-bin gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-core (that's one long line). Instead of the latter you could do a: apt-get install task-gnome-apps task-gnome-net or, for a slicker GNOME, after putting the line: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main in your /etc/sources.list, say: apt-get install task-helix-gnome Greetings, joachim
Re: Can't mount CD-ROM SOLVED!!
Well then, let me explain: I had a music cd in the drive. When I issued the command to mount, I got a wrong filesystem, bad block.. error message. But when I executed the program cdplayer, it scanned the cd and began playing it. Thus far, I haven't taken the time to dig up a linux cd and see if it will mount. I just assume since it will play the cd, it's working fine, even though it still doesn't mount.. I may have been a little premature informing the list my problem was solved, I just didn't want anyone going to the effort of replying when it was working.. On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 11:25:55PM -0700 32, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 10:01:02PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: It's working!! That's rather less illuminating than information as to how you solved the problem. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 -- Make voyages, attempt them, there's nothing else. --Tennessee Williams
Newbie needs help with IP-Masquerading
HELP!! I can't get IPMASQ working. I've recompiled my kernel to add MASQ support and I'm pretty sure that I got it right. I've read through the HOW-TO but I had problems following along (I think it was written with BSD in mind.not Sys5). Anywaysany ideas or suggestions would be helpful. I can't even tell you exactly what the problem is. All I know is that my windows machine can't hit the internet when going through the debian box. (It's not a DNS thing because I can't ping the DNS server from windows either.) -Jason
Re: netscape bookmarks in both win and linux
In the file `preferences.js', look for the following line and edit it according to YOUR preference: user_pref(browser.bookmark_file, /home/broult/lib/netscape/bookmarks.html); At the top that file you will find the following warning: // Netscape User Preferences // This is a generated file! Do not edit. So just quit Netscape before making the modification and then re-launch it. I have done that modification for at least a couple of years without ever having a problem with it. Chris Thomas Guettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 12:18:11PM +0200, Jonas Moberg wrote: I intend to use my netscape bookmark.htm from my windows-partition for linux as well. So I made a soft-link from my windows-netscape bookmark.htm to ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html. Works fine, except for one thing.. Netscape sometimes replaces the link with a copy. Why? This solution also makes it impossible to add bookmarks from linux as the mounted windows-partition of course belongs to root. What's a easy (and safe) way to solve this? If you got more than one computer you can use Netscape-roaming. Install openldap, look at netscape-roaming-howto and you can use your netscape-profile everywhere. -- Thomas Guettler Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interface-business.de Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yi.org/guettli -- Man is distinguished from all other creatures by the faculty of laughter. - Joseph Addison
Sendmail feature wanted
Hi All, I use Sendmail to send and recive mail through Internet but I want the following feature: when an e-mail comes to an unknow user, it will be delivery to a know user. At Sendmail homepage, tells me to use a Virtual Domains and the command: # makemap dbm /etc/mail/virtusertable sourcefile to create the virtusertable.db. But this command not works and give a error: # makemap dbm /etc/mail/virtusertable sourcefile # makemap: Type dbm not supported in this version My version of sendmail is 8.9.3-23 from Debian Potato. I try to use a BerkeleyDB3.1 but I dont understand how I can make a db with this. If someone knows a way to do this work, I thanks so much. Regards, Paulo Henrique
More on compiling Galeon
I don't know if I missed it in the thread, but I can't figure out how to compile Galeon either. I have the Potato version of Mozilla installed (M16, I understand) but when I ./configure, I get configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install gnome-libs install? Is that a command; or a process? I installed the libglade and gnome glade -dev libraries and it doesn't make a difference. Where is this file? -- Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == The eleventh commandment was `Thou Shalt Compute' or `Thou Shalt Not Compute' -- I forget which. -- Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN Sept. 1982
Re: Sendmail feature wanted
You should use hash instead of dbm. Ron Rademaker On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Hi All, I use Sendmail to send and recive mail through Internet but I want the following feature: when an e-mail comes to an unknow user, it will be delivery to a know user. At Sendmail homepage, tells me to use a Virtual Domains and the command: # makemap dbm /etc/mail/virtusertable sourcefile to create the virtusertable.db. But this command not works and give a error: # makemap dbm /etc/mail/virtusertable sourcefile # makemap: Type dbm not supported in this version My version of sendmail is 8.9.3-23 from Debian Potato. I try to use a BerkeleyDB3.1 but I dont understand how I can make a db with this. If someone knows a way to do this work, I thanks so much. Regards, Paulo Henrique -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Problem with procmail
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 09:58:01AM +0200, Yannick Jestin wrote: without procmail, you get every mail only once? could you post you .procmailrc? I have some mails twice or more from time to time, but usually, there is no problem. These lines split the digests : hmm. : *^(Resent-Sender|Resent-From|From): [EMAIL PROTECTED] *^Subject:.*debian-(user|devel)-(digest|digest-digest) Digest.* | formail +1 -ds debian hmm, here's my entry: :0 * ^X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-user moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: Newbie needs help with IP-Masquerading
What does it say when you do: ipchains -L Ron Rademaker On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Jason Schepman wrote: HELP!! I can't get IPMASQ working. I've recompiled my kernel to add MASQ support and I'm pretty sure that I got it right. I've read through the HOW-TO but I had problems following along (I think it was written with BSD in mind.not Sys5). Anywaysany ideas or suggestions would be helpful. I can't even tell you exactly what the problem is. All I know is that my windows machine can't hit the internet when going through the debian box. (It's not a DNS thing because I can't ping the DNS server from windows either.) -Jason -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
can't compile cdfs
Hello, I've installed yesterdays frozen and recompiled the kernel 2.2.17. It's up and running. Fine. But I failed to compile the non standard kernel module cdfs.o. I've linked /usr/include/{linux,asm} to /usr/src/linux/include/{linux,asm-i386}. I get following output from make. I get the same error with 2.2.16 kernel sources installed. I must have forgotten something? What`s wrong? Armin gcc -O -Wall -c audio.c In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:13, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: parse error before `clock_t' /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/times.h:6: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: parse error before `tms_cutime' /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: parse error before `tms_cstime' /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:142, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/time.h:10: parse error before `time_t' /usr/include/linux/time.h:10: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/time.h:12: parse error before `}' /usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `timespec_to_jiffies': /usr/include/linux/time.h:32: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:33: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `jiffies_to_timespec': /usr/include/linux/time.h:45: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:46: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h: At top level: /usr/include/linux/time.h:50: parse error before `time_t' /usr/include/linux/time.h:50: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/time.h:51: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/time.h:83: field `it_interval' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:84: field `it_value' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:88: field `it_interval' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:89: field `it_value' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/timex.h:163: field `time' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:266, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: parse error before `ino_t' /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:12: parse error before `:' In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:268, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: parse error before `off_t' /usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:269, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/umsdos_fs_i.h:62: field `msdos_info' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/umsdos_fs_i.h:69: parse error before `off_t' /usr/include/linux/umsdos_fs_i.h:69: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/umsdos_fs_i.h:73: parse error before `}' In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:270, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4,
Re: upgrade to potato; tetex-bin depends
Quoting Charles Kaufman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I've installed most of the 47, but am stuck on tetex-bin. 'dpkg -i tetex-bin' reports 'tetex-bin depends on libz1, which is not installed'. I can't find libz1, but tetex-bin's depends, in the package archive, does include zlib1g. Should I let apt-get run as long as it wants? Is there a libz1? Am I done for? The way to solve this is to grep the Packages files. You'll see lots of libz1 depends, so if there isn't a package with that name, there must be a provides instead: Package: zlib1g Version: 1:1.1.3-5 Priority: standard Section: libs Maintainer: Joel Klecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends: libc6 (= 2.1) Conflicts: zlib1 (= 1:1.0.4-7) Provides: libz1 Architecture: i386 Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/libs/zlib1g_1.1.3-5.deb I hope that fixes things. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: can't compile cdfs
This looks like some kind of #ifdef wasn't satisfied, and code is now missing at the compilation stage. What macro definitions can you play with in the Makefile? Mike On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Armin Wegner wrote: Hello, I've installed yesterdays frozen and recompiled the kernel 2.2.17. It's up and running. Fine. But I failed to compile the non standard kernel module cdfs.o. I've linked /usr/include/{linux,asm} to /usr/src/linux/include/{linux,asm-i386}. I get following output from make. I get the same error with 2.2.16 kernel sources installed. I must have forgotten something? What`s wrong? Armin gcc -O -Wall -c audio.c In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:13, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: parse error before `clock_t' /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/times.h:6: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: parse error before `tms_cutime' /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: parse error before `tms_cstime' /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:142, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/time.h:10: parse error before `time_t' /usr/include/linux/time.h:10: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/time.h:12: parse error before `}' /usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `timespec_to_jiffies': /usr/include/linux/time.h:32: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:33: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `jiffies_to_timespec': /usr/include/linux/time.h:45: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:46: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h: At top level: /usr/include/linux/time.h:50: parse error before `time_t' /usr/include/linux/time.h:50: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/time.h:51: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/time.h:83: field `it_interval' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:84: field `it_value' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:88: field `it_interval' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:89: field `it_value' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/timex.h:163: field `time' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:266, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: parse error before `ino_t' /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:12: parse error before `:' In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:268, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: parse error before `off_t' /usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:269, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/umsdos_fs_i.h:62: field `msdos_info' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/umsdos_fs_i.h:69: parse error before `off_t' /usr/include/linux/umsdos_fs_i.h:69: warning:
VI and .html files?
Hey all. I've been using VI for 8 years now, but this is the first time I've ever seen it have this little problem. I try and VI a .html file, and I get what looks to be a lynx-style WYSIWYG editor. It doesn't show me the source code, it actually shows me the HTML page formatted. Does anyone know why this is, and how I can fix it? Thanks very much! Adam Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Re: *delete* a default gw route?
Quoting kmself@ix.netcom.com (kmself@ix.netcom.com): I'm testing a firewall setup on my home system. Principle network connection is the internal modem of my desktop. I'm trying to route through my firewall box instead. While I can set up the network and add a default gw through the firewall, I don't seem to be able to remove the default entry corresponding to the ppp connection from my desktop. route delete default gw dialup-fqdn just hangs. Am I doing the right thing? Is this necessary? Ideally, I'd like to have the FW be the primary gateway, but use the second modem connection on an ad-hoc basis. I assume I'll need to do some sort of serial balancing or juggle with metrics to do this It shouldn't be necessary to remove a default ppp0 route if there's already a default route when you start it: PPP shouldn't change the default in this case (not replacing existing default route to %s [%I]). P.S. you won't be getting your personal copy of this email as you have Mail-Followup-To: karsten, debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org in your headers. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: VI and .html files?
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Adam Scriven wrote: Hey all. I've been using VI for 8 years now, but this is the first time I've ever seen it have this little problem. I try and VI a .html file, and I get what looks to be a lynx-style WYSIWYG editor. It doesn't show me the source code, it actually shows me the HTML page formatted. Does anyone know why this is, and how I can fix it? Thanks very much! Interesting. What Vi clone are you using? I use Vim, and I know that it will syntax-shade the html, but I've never heard of that. I know debian comes pre-packaged with nVi. Could it be that? Mike
Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Linux machine
I need to transfer some program files and stuff from my windows machine (where I download the stuff) to the Linux machine (where I am learning to set it up) Can someone tell me the best way to do that? Thanks. -- Matt Gagné Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't mount CD-ROM SOLVED!!
And what exactly makes you believe that it's okay to mount an audio CD? If it's a Windows or Macintosh machine - they have special drivers to make it appear that the CD is mounted. Cheers, Jason. --On Wednesday, August 9, 2000 4:15 -0700 Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well then, let me explain: I had a music cd in the drive. When I issued the command to mount, I got a wrong filesystem, bad block.. error message. But when I executed the program cdplayer, it scanned the cd and began playing it. Thus far, I haven't taken the time to dig up a linux cd and see if it will mount. I just assume since it will play the cd, it's working fine, even though it still doesn't mount.. I may have been a little premature informing the list my problem was solved, I just didn't want anyone going to the effort of replying when it was working..
Re: VI and .html files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 6:01:28 AM, Michael wrote: Interesting. What Vi clone are you using? I use Vim, and I know that it will syntax-shade the html, but I've never heard of that. I know debian comes pre-packaged with nVi. Could it be that? Doubtful, nvi just implements vi commands without the limitations and bugs. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZFXWHpf7K2LbpnFEQIVHgCgpjpWmWQMkb0qaK0wK/mBSBw12aAAoLoi y4Bh5dysNH957UgYfxRiffJr =S/mG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Autostarting Apache and MySQL
What is the '/var/run/$NAME.pid' referred to in this skeleton script? And how do I establish this? (I compiled Mysql and Apache) Also, I start Apache by issuing the command apachectl start and stop it by issuing apachectl stop. It is in /usr/local/apache/bin/. Is /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl the DAEMON referred to in this script? I take it that apache would be the NAME, Correct? On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 11:23:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get Debian automatically to start, 1) MySQL and 2) Apache According to the FAQs, rc.local does not work and I am supposed to develop some scripts in /etc/init.d which take the arguments start', `stop', `reload', `restart' or `force-reload' First of all, all I want to do is to start these automatically upon boot up. I do not care about the stop, reload, restart, or force-reload and would prefer not to deal with them unless Debian insists. Secondly, precisely what language do I use. Eg: will the following, for Apache work: script #!/bin/bash /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start /script If this language will not work, what will? And can I omit this reload and other items about which I do not care. Also, of course, precisely what language do I need for MySQL? I understand that Debian automatically begins on run level 2. Do I need to worry about other runlevels? Duncan: If you install both these programs from Debian packages, the rc*.d init scripts will be configured for you automatically, and the services will start up on boot. You'll also be able to start, stop, reload, or restart them with: # /etc/init.d/myservice start|stop|reload|restart ...syntax. If this doesn't suit your fancy, take a look at /etc/init.d/skeleton and modify it to suit your needs (copy it, *then* modify it). -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 Regards, Duncan C. Kinder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie needs help with IP-Masquerading
A list of steps you've already performed would be useful in order to pinpoint where things are going wrong. Cheers, Jason. --On Wednesday, August 9, 2000 6:22 -0500 Jason Schepman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELP!! I can't get IPMASQ working. I've recompiled my kernel to add MASQ support and I'm pretty sure that I got it right. I've read through the HOW-TO but I had problems following along (I think it was written with BSD in mind.not Sys5). Anywaysany ideas or suggestions would be helpful. I can't even tell you exactly what the problem is. All I know is that my windows machine can't hit the internet when going through the debian box. (It's not a DNS thing because I can't ping the DNS server from windows either.) -Jason -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
.bashrc
I'm confused as to how debian handles the .bashrc file. In my user directory, I have a .bashrc file that reads # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells. # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples # If running interactively, then: if [ $PS1 ]; then # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases eval `dircolors` alias ls='ls --color=auto ' alias ll='ls -l' alias la='ls -A' alias l='ls -CF' alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical' alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long' set a fancy prompt PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' fi But when I log into X and issue the ls command, it doesn't execute the command in color, nor does it do anything for ll la or l, what's overriding the .bashrc file? I don't have xdm installed.. thanks dale -- Make voyages, attempt them, there's nothing else. --Tennessee Williams
Re: Can't mount CD-ROM SOLVED!!
I tried it with a cd containing proper filesystems and it works fine. It was late when I was working on this and I guess I posted to quickly. On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 03:07:57PM +0200 33, Jason Quigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what exactly makes you believe that it's okay to mount an audio CD? If it's a Windows or Macintosh machine - they have special drivers to make it appear that the CD is mounted. Cheers, Jason. --On Wednesday, August 9, 2000 4:15 -0700 Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well then, let me explain: I had a music cd in the drive. When I issued the command to mount, I got a wrong filesystem, bad block.. error message. But when I executed the program cdplayer, it scanned the cd and began playing it. Thus far, I haven't taken the time to dig up a linux cd and see if it will mount. I just assume since it will play the cd, it's working fine, even though it still doesn't mount.. I may have been a little premature informing the list my problem was solved, I just didn't want anyone going to the effort of replying when it was working.. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Make voyages, attempt them, there's nothing else. --Tennessee Williams
/etc/environment
Hi, I was having trouble with the display of special characters in mutt when logged in using ssh, and I found that the LANG environment variable is the culprit. When I use mutt from an xterm, special characters like ë, é, § for example are displayed correctly. However, after doing ssh localhost from that xterm, special characters are displayed as '?'. diff-ing the environment settings showed that from a normal xterm, LANG is unset, while from a login shell (e.g. when using ssh) LANG is set to C, whatever that means. The only place I found LANG=C appeared to be /etc/environment, and changing this to LANG='' appears to have solved the problem. But several questions remain: Why doesn't display of special characters work when LANG is set to a value? When is /etc/environment parsed? I tried su - and xterm -ls, and LANG is not set. But when I login from the console or with ssh or telnet, it is. Why is LANG set to C from /etc/environment; which package puts this in? And what does LANG=C mean to programs in general? Any pointers appreciated, Wouter
RE: .bashrc
In order to get around this problem, I put the following in my ~/.bash_profile: source $HOME/.bashrc On 09-Aug-2000 Dale Morris wrote: I'm confused as to how debian handles the .bashrc file. In my user directory, I have a .bashrc file that reads # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells. # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples
Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?
Aplixware 5.0 runs well for me under Potato. No problems at all with the installation. -- Pedro
Re: More on compiling Galeon
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 07:54:56AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich wrote I don't know if I missed it in the thread, but I can't figure out how to compile Galeon either. I have the Potato version of Mozilla installed (M16, I understand) but when I ./configure, I get configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install gnome-libs install? Is that a command; or a process? I installed the libglade and gnome glade -dev libraries and it doesn't make a difference. Where is this file? # zgrep gnomeConf.sh debian/dists/potato/Contents-i386.gz usr/lib/gnomeConf.sh devel/libgnome-dev # Looks like it's in libgnome-dev. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin support:technical services
.bash_profile does not work
When I attempt to adjust my path by editing .bash_profile, there is no response. No matter how I may edit it, when I type $PATH, I get the environment set by /etc/profile. How can I override /etc/profile? Here is my current version: .bash_profile #!/bin/bash #~/.profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells. if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then source ~/.bashrc fi PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr /X11R6/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin export PATH mesg n /.bash_profile Regards, Duncan C. Kinder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SB AWE64 PnP installation on slink 2.2.12
Thanks for the help on this. I've done modprobe -r on sound, soundlow, soundcore, and uart401 When I do modprobe -a sb I get the following error /lib/modules/2.2.12/misc/sb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy sound: Device or resource busy Then I do lsmod and the sound, soundlow, soundcore and uart401 modules are back in there. Module SizeUsed by uart401 55880 sound 54476 0 [uart401] soundlow208 0 [sound] soundcore 21003 [sound] I cant get the sb module installed. Bill -Original Message- From: Hans Sent: 08 August 2000 21:29 To: William Smith; Debian-User (E-mail) Subject: Re: SB AWE64 PnP installation on slink 2.2.12 This is the ISA SB64AWE, I suppose, so did you do the isapnp setup routine (pnpdump, editing /etc/isapnp.conf, running isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf)? The two modules that should be loaded are sound and sb. Use modprobe -a sound and modprobe -a sb io=0x0220, irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 to insert those. Good luck. Contact me if you still have problems. Hans
Re: httpd broke in woody?
Hmmm... I did another dist-upgrade, last night. It may be completely unrelated but this morning an apache-restart came up fine Robert Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Robert L. Harris wrote: Robert I did a distupgrade a day or ago and today noticed my httpd was down. Robert Here's what's in my error.log Robert Robert Robert {0}:lh:/var/adm/apachecat error.log Robert [Tue Aug 8 21:58:06 2000] [notice] Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) Debian/GNU configured -- resuming normal operations Robert [Tue Aug 8 21:58:06 2000] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: /usr/lib/apache/suexec) There are no errors in that error log, just notices, as far as the log is concerned everything is running great. the problem must be elsewhere ... nate ::: http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:31pm up 22 days, 6:08, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.12, 0.03 :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
RE: .bash_profile does not work
On 09-Aug-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I attempt to adjust my path by editing .bash_profile, there is no response. No matter how I may edit it, when I type $PATH, I get the environment set by /etc/profile. How can I override /etc/profile? Try something like this in your user .bash_profile: PATH=$PATH:$QTDIR/bin:$HOME/bin export PATH Put your additional paths after the $PATH: part above. Don't forget to do '. .bash_profile' after editing. -- Andrew
Re: Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Linux machine
You best bet is to turn on file sharing on your windows box and then use the smbclient to access these shares in your linux box. Matt Gagné wrote: I need to transfer some program files and stuff from my windows machine (where I download the stuff) to the Linux machine (where I am learning to set it up) Can someone tell me the best way to do that? Thanks. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XEmacs options file doesn't save options
I change the font size in the XEmacs options and also select the save options, the file date and time changes but the font size is still the old size after closing and re-opening XEmacs. What do I have to do to save my changes to the options? _ Want a new web-based email account ? --- http://www.firstlinux.net
SOLVED: Re: VI and .html files?
At 09:01 2000/08/09 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Adam Scriven wrote: I've been using VI for 8 years now, but this is the first time I've ever seen it have this little problem. I try and VI a .html file, and I get what looks to be a lynx-style WYSIWYG editor. It doesn't show me the source code, it actually shows me the HTML page formatted. Interesting. What Vi clone are you using? Turns out I was using Elvis, which views .html files as a browser (Thanks Juan!). I use Vim, and I know that it will syntax-shade the html, but I've never heard of that. I know debian comes pre-packaged with nVi. Could it be that? I just switched to vim, but since I'm doing everything in a telnet window, with a cruddy telnet client, I don't get to see the colours. Oh well, at least I can see my source now! 8-) Adam Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Re: Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Linux machine
I've set up FTP on my WinNT laptop using Microsofts peer web services and I use Netscape on my linux box to browse files etc. (or just ftp them across).
Let my people go
Well I am posting from the newsgroup. Wanted to get all that mail off my shell account quota. The only drawback is the delay in seeing posts. A post or followup will not go to the mailing list, I use reply (email) for followup and shellout with a little script for a first post. A post or followup will be posted in this group even though it never makes it to the mail list. A reply (email) goes to the list if one is subscribed and is then propagated to the newsgroup. What happens is people wander into the newsgroup thinking it is a regular legitimate newsgroup not realizing that it is an illegitimate and defunct appendage to a mailing list, They post and followup not realizing that their posts are never seen by the authors of the majority of the articles. Some of these people may be reading this right now. Well let me be your Moses and lead you out of the darkness and into the light. cmos
Re: More on compiling Galeon
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 07:54:56AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich wrote: I don't know if I missed it in the thread, but I can't figure out how to compile Galeon either. I have the Potato version of Mozilla installed (M16, I understand) but when I ./configure, I get i'm not sure, wether this packages has all the devel libraries and headers file from mozilla, which are needed for compiling galeon. i had compiled mozilla myself, compiling galeon worked finde.. configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install gnome-libs install? Is that a command; or a process? I installed the libglade and gnome glade -dev libraries and it doesn't make a difference. Where is this file? gnomeConf.sh is a file, which belongs to the gnome-libs package... don't know the exact name of the deb. try libgnome* and libgnome*-dev. ...perhaps it's just present in recent gnome versions? i compiled gnome-libs (1.2.4) myself and gnomeConf.sh is present on my system. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: XEmacs options file doesn't save options
For XEmacs 19.14 and previous: John Mann writes: You have to go to Options-Frame Appearance and unselect `Frame-Local Font Menu'. If this option is selected, font changes are only applied to the current frame and do not get saved when you save options. For XEmacs 19.15 and later: Implement the above as well as set the following in your `.emacs' (setq options-save-faces t) --- Rick Loga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I change the font size in the XEmacs options and also select the save options, the file date and time changes but the font size is still the old size after closing and re-opening XEmacs. What do I have to do to save my changes to the options? _ Want a new web-based email account ? --- http://www.firstlinux.net -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _ Want a new web-based email account ? --- http://www.firstlinux.net
Re: [OFFTOPIC] BIOS Password defeat
If the other methods mentioned fail, BIOS's usually have generic passwards that unlock them no matter what password is set (v useful - if the case is padlocked together at uni ;) ). Try searching on the internet for the BIOS type + crack or something similar. Hello there, I found a pretty nice 486 PCI-motherboard in the bulk waste last week, which I would like to use as secondary computer with debian. The board is working, but unfortunately, it was setup in a way that you can only boot from harddisk, and shadow RAM was enabled. So I tried to change the settings, but the preliminary user has installed a Setup-Password, so that I can't access the BIOS. I know, that there are ways to get around this, but I don't know how to do it in this special case. So does anybody know where to find the necessary information? Is there a tool for Linux or DOS to access and change BIOS-settings (I could plugin the harddisk from another computer and try to boot into Linux or use the small DOS-partition I have on this disk). Or is there some kind of cheat password, which will always work? The BIOS is a Phoenix version 4.04. Regards, Daniel Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI and .html files?
Adam Scriven said: I've been using VI for 8 years now, but this is the first time I've ever seen it have this little problem. I try and VI a .html file, and I get what looks to be a lynx-style WYSIWYG editor. It doesn't show me the source code, it actually shows me the HTML page formatted. Does anyone know why this is, and how I can fix it? Have you, perhaps, installed the elvis package recently? Anyhow, I don't know how to make it stop opening HTML files in that mode initially, but you can hit ^Wd to switch between source and lynxish modes. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
How to get xemacs21 to display japanese characters in gnus
Hello, I'm trying to use gnus to read posts written in japanese. Unfortunately it refuses to show the posts using japanese characters by default. I have these settings: gnus-show-mime t gnus-strict-mime nil gnus-show-mime-method 'metamail-buffer Some conversion is done, because a lot of quoted-printable stuff is not shown, but a warning is shown saying [*** ISO-2022-JP charset ***]. However if I jump to the article buffer and do M-x metamail-buffer manually, the article is converted and the japanese characters are shown correctly. How do I get gnus to show the correct character set automatically? Please reply directly to me as well if you have an answer, since this list has such high traffic. Regards, Pontus -- Pontus Lidman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Software Engineer No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up. Scene: www.dc-s.com | MUD: tyme.envy.com 6969 | irc: irc.quakenet.eu.org
woody: xterm clients (mc, lynx) do not use the xtrem* from Xresources?
Contrary to what I was used to, it seems that the xterm clients like mc, lynx and Gnuplot do not any more use the xterm resources. Therefore I am getting a smaller window for them. What should I change in order to fix it? I am running unstable. [14:23:32 /tmp]$ cat ~/.Xresources ! ~/.Xresources AcroRead*geometry: 788x582 AcroRead*usesFrontEndProgram: false Clock*customization:-color lyx*height: 573 lyx*width: 793 tkinfo.geometry:109x38 xterm*Font: 10x20 xterm*ScrollBar: true xterm*colorMode: true xterm*customization: -color [18:14:13 /tmp]$ -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: can't compile cdfs
(I've installed the 2.2.17 kernel on my old system and cdfs compiled fine with it.) This is the Makefile: --- OBJS=audio.o cdXA.o cddata.o hfs.o iso.o proc.o root.o utils.o cdfs.o: $(OBJS) $(LD) -r $(OBJS) -o $@ $(OBJS) cdfs.o: cdfs.h .c.o: $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -O -Wall -c $ .PHONY: clean reload clean: -rm -f *.o *~ core reload: cdfs.o umount /cdfs; rmmod cdfs; insmod cdfs; mount /cdfs On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:44:41AM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote: This looks like some kind of #ifdef wasn't satisfied, and code is now missing at the compilation stage. What macro definitions can you play with in the Makefile? Mike On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Armin Wegner wrote: Hello, I've installed yesterdays frozen and recompiled the kernel 2.2.17. It's up and running. Fine. But I failed to compile the non standard kernel module cdfs.o. I've linked /usr/include/{linux,asm} to /usr/src/linux/include/{linux,asm-i386}. I get following output from make. I get the same error with 2.2.16 kernel sources installed. I must have forgotten something? What`s wrong? Armin gcc -O -Wall -c audio.c In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:13, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: parse error before `clock_t' /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/times.h:6: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: parse error before `tms_cutime' /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: parse error before `tms_cstime' /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:142, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/time.h:10: parse error before `time_t' /usr/include/linux/time.h:10: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/time.h:12: parse error before `}' /usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `timespec_to_jiffies': /usr/include/linux/time.h:32: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:33: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `jiffies_to_timespec': /usr/include/linux/time.h:45: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:46: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h: At top level: /usr/include/linux/time.h:50: parse error before `time_t' /usr/include/linux/time.h:50: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/time.h:51: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/time.h:83: field `it_interval' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:84: field `it_value' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:88: field `it_interval' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/time.h:89: field `it_value' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/timex.h:163: field `time' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:266, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: parse error before `ino_t' /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:12: parse error before `:' In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:268, from /usr/include/linux/tty.h:20, from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:21, from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from cdfs.h:38, from audio.c:27: /usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: parse error before `off_t'
Re: soundcard
I recently bought a Creative Labs PCI128 OEM. It has the ES1371 chipset which is an option in kernel config. It was a snap to set up in linux, and it has been working great. I got it at www.bunta.com for $30US. I highly, highly recommend that company. Their prices are reasonable and they usually ship that day. On the other hand, you could search for this soundcard at www.pricewatch.com and take your chances with the cheapest company. There are certainly better soundcards that are compatible with linux, but if you are budget-conscious but you still want a quality card, I can recommend this one. -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452
PC133 RAM doesn't work with Slink!?!
Hey, I'm still using 2.1 (If 2.2 does come out like it is expected to (today), I will buy it), and I'm trying to install it on my new computer. I've switched out various parts of my machine (Hard-drive, CD-ROM, etc), Because it gives me weird memory errors/addresses when I try to install. I finally switched my 64 MB PC133 RAM for my dad's PC100, and now I can install. Is there a way to get this ram working in slink, and more importantly, will it work in potato? Thanks, Cameron Matheson
Re: [OFFTOPIC] BIOS Password defeat
Just pull out the CMOS battery and refix it. Once the CMOS info is totally wiped out, the passwords would have gone too, afterall the info is kept in the CMOS and not the BIOS. It is admitedly a crude method, but works. Needs no tools besides your screw driver and nifty fingers! USM Bish On Tue, 08 Aug 2000, Daniel Reuter wrote: Hello there, I found a pretty nice 486 PCI-motherboard in the bulk waste last week, which I would like to use as secondary computer with debian. The board is working, but unfortunately, it was setup in a way that you can only boot from harddisk, and shadow RAM was enabled. So I tried to change the settings, but the preliminary user has installed a Setup-Password, so that I can't access the BIOS. I know, that there are ways to get around this, but I don't know how to do it in this special case. So does anybody know where to find the necessary information? Is there a tool for Linux or DOS to access and change BIOS-settings (I could plugin the harddisk from another computer and try to boot into Linux or use the small DOS-partition I have on this disk). Or is there some kind of cheat password, which will always work? The BIOS is a Phoenix version 4.04. Regards, Daniel -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- : - Its a BishMail :-) - :
Re: Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Linux machine
I am at this game for the last few years. There are two solutions to this: Solution 1: If you have multiple OSs (like me) with Debian 2.1, Slack-7, and Win-98, (and BeOS till recently): a) Create a separate partition, (Type of partition msdos or vfat). Use fips for non destructive re-partitioning of existing DOS partitions in case you do not want a ner installation. b) This will show up automatically in DOS/ Win as Drive X c) From Linux mount this partition, as umsdos, (otherwise, long file names will be juggered). Since the partition I use is hdb3, I mount it as follows: mount -t umsdos /dev/hdb3 /archive d) Having a separate partition has the advantage that all OSs which can access a MS DOS partition can be used for sharing data inclusive of mp3s, GIFs, HTML and other files. Solution 2: Just mount your DOS/ Win9x partition as msdos or vfat to a mount point of your choice. All long filenames in this case would be 8.3 format. Just suitable enough for transfer of data, but not installing. USM Bish On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, Matt Gagné wrote: I need to transfer some program files and stuff from my windows machine (where I download the stuff) to the Linux machine (where I am learning to set it up) Can someone tell me the best way to do that? Thanks. -- Matt Gagné Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- : - Its a BishMail :-) - :
Re: Sendmail feature wanted
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 04:29:57AM -0700, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Hi All, I use Sendmail to send and recive mail through Internet but I want the following feature: when an e-mail comes to an unknow user, it will be delivery to a know user. Add to sedmail.mc: define(`LUSER_RELAY',`local:you_account')dnl Mirek
Re: wordvie
Try www.reshmeat.net, and search for mswordview and wordview. II have seen two such utils in my freshmeat newsletters a couple of weeks back. I think mswordview is on the SuSE site as well. I vaguely remember as having seen it. I used to be on SuSE till a week ago. USM Bish On Mon, 07 Aug 2000, Bipul Pal wrote: I saw debian has an utility called wordview which can open msword document. I would like to know where can I get the source code for that wordview. Bipul Pal TIFR Mumbai-45 India. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- : - Its a BishMail :-) - :
Re: Help - WordPerfect still doesn't work (nor does Netscape)
If it is WordPerfect8 that you are talking of, and Netscape 4.x then the most like;y source of problem is non-availability of xpm4.7 library on your system. Just install this library from the oldlibs section, and things should be fine. USM Bish India On Sun, 06 Aug 2000, Cam Ellison wrote: I have managed to get WordPerfect installed, but any attempt to start it gets an error message indicating something like can't start binary file. On installation, I get two error messages, first that kernel 2.2.16 (which I now understand is buggy, but haven't had time to replace) is not certified, and second that the installer can't load library libXpm.so.4. I have suspected that the fact that it can't load the library has something to do with the fact that it won't run. However, I just installed Netscape Communicator. The installation ran without a hitch, but I get the same error message: can't start binary file. I'm running slink with the default (bash) shell. I notice, additionally, that trying to run the Runme script (as root) can't be done with ~/.Runme -- I have to use sh Runme. This is starting to get to me -- any help will be greatly appreciated. TIA Cam Cam Ellison, Ph.D., R.Psych. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the lovely Sunshine Coast, where it only SEEMS to rain.
FreeBSD -- Debain: any good reason?
I'm trying to figure out if there is a good reason to move from FreeBSD to Debian Linux, or run both. I have FreeBSD 3.1 installed and I've done some perl web programming, running only X-windows, emacs, apache and netscape. I was fine and happy. A Slackware Linux fan at work told me FreeBSD is behind the curve, too conservative. Linux has all the latest drivers, etc, -- go with Linux. So, I thought I would give Linux a try. First I got lost in which distro to go with. I spent a whole bunch of time before I decided on Debian. Debian seems to be the most conservative of the bunch, kind of the freebsd camp of the Linux world. As far as graphic card drivers go every one depends on Xfree86 so end of story there. As for drivers for my soundblaster live, they are in the experimental stage in FreeBSD and in Linux you need a special version of the kernel. which leads me to ease of installation. FreeBSD is a snap to install. I got lost in the Debian installation guide. There's 4 different versions of the kernel you can choose from, there's files to pull from several different directories, etc. I wanted to do a multi-boot system, win98 and Debian. I used partition magic to set up these little slivers of partions, 500 MB for /root, 100 MB for /tmp, 2 gigs for /var, etc. Partition magic took forever, created half of them and gave up. Maybe FreeBSD was easier to install because I gave it its own disk. Just make 2 boot floppies, do a network install, and off and running. So now I see no really good reason to leave FreeBSD for Linux. Am I missing something, besides the license issue? greg strockbine