Re: Configuración de emacs

2000-09-06 Thread Marta Pla i Castells
Hola:

En primer lugar, gracias a todos por vuestros .Xresources ya tengo
solucionado el problema de la configuración de mi emacs. El problema es que
(ignorante de mi) no sabía que este maravilloso archivo existía.(me queda
mucho por aprender ;-) ).

Así que creé el archivo .Xresources y todo funcionó ferpectamente.

De nuevo, gracias.

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¿quién dijo que las matemáticas son odiosas?

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(Una matemática que no lo es)



RE: Lista de usuarios

2000-09-06 Thread Ignacio García Fernández

Por ejemplo yo soy usuario de un servidor a.com y quiero saber la lista
de usuarios de otro servidor digamos d.com

De que forma puedo obtener la lista de usuarios???

Creo que con telnet al puerto finger puedes hacer lo mismo que con la
orden finger. Aunque no creo que lo hagan así.
Además muchas máquinas lo ti

Por cierto, si alguien puede decirme cual es el puerto finger...
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Re: exim no arranca automaticamente

2000-09-06 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

El Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:19:00PM +0200, Xose Manoel Ramos disidio iscribir:
 Hay que decir que el Exim funciona en algunos servidores grandes. Sin
 ir más lejos el de la Universidas de Cambridge. No es que sea el MTA
 super rápido y super potente, pero da el pego.

Y ademas es muy ligero para la maquina, y si no tienes que hacer muchas
virguerias se configura con la minga.

Eso si, la documentacion, por exhaustiva, es pesadita.

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programa irda-Nokia

2000-09-06 Thread TooMany
Buenas.

Aparte del programa gnokii, para manejar un nokia por infrarojos, ¿no
existe ningún otro que sea en modo gráfico y pueda manejar las
funcionalidades de un 7110, 6110, etc?

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RE: Lista de usuarios

2000-09-06 Thread Ignacio García Fernández






Creo que el anterior correo me ha quedado un 
tanto... extrao. Repito:



Por ejemplo yo soy usuario de un servidor a.com 
y quiero saber la lista de usuarios de otro servidor digamos d.com 


De que forma puedo obtener la lista de 
usuarios???

Estaba diciendo que tal vez por el puerto finger se pueda 
hacer algo, pero la mayora de las mquinas lo tendrn 
cerrado (yo alguna vez he intentado conectarme a alguna por puerto finger y me 
ha tirado de una patada all donde la espalda pierde su honroso 
nombre).

Tampoco era mucho lo que me quedaba por decir, 
pero bueno.

un saludo
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Re: Lista de usuarios

2000-09-06 Thread Fernando
Ignacio García Fernández wrote:
 
 Por ejemplo yo soy usuario de un servidor a.com y quiero saber la lista
 de usuarios de otro servidor digamos d.com
 

 
 Por cierto, si alguien puede decirme cual es el puerto finger...

/etc/services   - 79


Por cierto por que existe un cfinger, el GNU finger ?

Saludos.


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Re: Usuarios de correo

2000-09-06 Thread Jaume Sabater
¿Cómo que no? Yo gestiono mas de 150 usuarios de correo, y no tengo ningún
problema en hacer que se llamen ascde.fghijk... Lo de los 8 carácteres,
¿no son los passwords?

At 18:20 05/09/00 -0500, you wrote:
Hola!

Quisiera saber si alguno de ustedes conoce la forma para crear usuarios
de correo con nombres estilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 

Me he leído toda la documentación del exim y no encuentro como. Siempre
los nombres de los usuarios de correo son los mismos de los usuarios del
sistema, y por lo tanto no pueden tener mas de ocho caracteres.

Gracias,

Camilo Alejandro Arboleda

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dosemu

2000-09-06 Thread Fernando
Hola:

Queria ejecutar un jueguecito que tengo para el dos con el emulador
y me he puesto a probarlo.

tengo en /etc/mtools.conf la siguiente linea:

#dosemu floppy image
drive m: file=/var/lib/dosemu/hdimage.first

y en /var/lib/dosemu/

-rw-r--r--   1 root root   444544 Jun 30  1998 hdimage.first

intento hacer:

  mdir m:

y me dice:

init M: unknown media type
Cannot initialize 'M:'

Alguien sabe que pasa, no he tenido mucho tiempo de investigar.

Saludos.

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ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
Hola, acaban de configurarme el router ADSL y esto es lo que me han dispuesto:

IP 172.26.0.2
Máscara de subred  255.255.255.240
Puerta de enlace   172.26.0.1

Según leo en
http://www.insflug.org/COMOs/Redes-En-Linux-Como/Redes-En-Linux-Como-5.html,
en Introducción a las direcciones IP, donde describe cómo construir una nueva 
red
propia que nunca conectará con Internet, la dirección IP 172.26.0.2
corresponde a una red privada de clase B, con lo cual mi equipo no es
accesible desde el exterior. De hecho he intentado acceder a el y no he
podido, obviamente.

¿Es posible variar esto de alguna manera para poder hacer que mi equipo sirva
contenidos a Inet, tales como web, correo y otros?.

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Re: dosemu

2000-09-06 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
Fernando wrote:
 
 tengo en /etc/mtools.conf la siguiente linea:
 
 #dosemu floppy image
 drive m: file=/var/lib/dosemu/hdimage.first

Yo lo tengo como

#dosemu hdimage
drive n: file=/var/lib/dosemu/hdimage.first partition=1 offset=128

y me funciona 

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Re: dosemu

2000-09-06 Thread Fernando
Agustín Martín Domingo wrote:
 
 Fernando wrote:
 
  tengo en /etc/mtools.conf la siguiente linea:
 
  #dosemu floppy image
  drive m: file=/var/lib/dosemu/hdimage.first
 
 Yo lo tengo como
 
 #dosemu hdimage
 drive n: file=/var/lib/dosemu/hdimage.first partition=1 offset=128
 
 y me funciona
 
 Saludos,
 

Vale, ahora aqui si me funciona, pero en mi casa hice eso y no me funcionó.
( Haría algo mal :-(  )

Por cierto como puedo crear una imagen mas grande ?

Saludos.

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Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior

2000-09-06 Thread David Charro Ripa
 ¿Es posible variar esto de alguna manera para poder hacer que mi equipo sirva
 contenidos a Inet, tales como web, correo y otros?.

Tu router ADSL probablemente lo pueda hacer. Tienes que redirigir un
puerto de la dirección IP externa a otro puerto en una dirección
interna. Es el IP Masquerading pero de fuera a dentro.
Leete el howto del router adsl que allí vienen ejemplos de como montarte
un servidor web o de quake (en general de lo que quieras) accesible
desde internet. Cógelo aquí.

http://www.volados.org/docs/Router-ADSL-COMO-v0.20.txt


Saludos

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Re: dosemu

2000-09-06 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
Fernando wrote:
 
 Vale, ahora aqui si me funciona, pero en mi casa hice eso y no me funcionó.
 ( Haría algo mal :-(  )
 
 Por cierto como puedo crear una imagen mas grande ?

Si tienes un dosemu reciente olvídate de las imágenes y trabaja con un
directorio que tenga lo que te interesa, por ejemplo yo tengo todo lo de
dentro de la imagen sacado a un directorio, /var/lib/dosemu/msdos622.dir
y un link llamado /var/lib/dosemu/bootdir a ese directorio. En el
/etc/dosemu/conf tengo la entrada

$_hdimage = bootdir # list of hdimages under /var/lib/dosemu

y así sabe que no es una imagen sino un directorio de arranque. No se a
partir de que versión de dosemu funciona, pero es muy cómodo, porque
puedes añadir lo que quieras directamente y puedes jugar con distintos
DOS cambiando a donde apunta el enlace. Mira la documentación de dosemu,
para ver si en el tuyo funciona, aunque creo que en el de potato ya
funcionaba. No estoy seguro de si con freeDOS funcionaba.

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Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mié, sep 06, 2000 at 01:31:56 +0200, David Charro Ripa wrote:
 Tu router ADSL probablemente lo pueda hacer. Tienes que redirigir un
 puerto de la dirección IP externa a otro puerto en una dirección
 interna. Es el IP Masquerading pero de fuera a dentro.

:-( )

Ondiax, creía que estaba en todo pero...

 Leete el howto del router adsl que allí vienen ejemplos de como montarte
 un servidor web o de quake (en general de lo que quieras) accesible
 desde internet. Cógelo aquí.
 
 http://www.volados.org/docs/Router-ADSL-COMO-v0.20.txt

Bajado e imrpimiéndose, ya fatigaré dentro de unos minutos después de leerlo ;-)
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Impresión ASCII y acentos

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
Hola, acabo de darme cuenta al imprimir el Router-ADSL-COMO que al imprimir
un fichero texto, el filtro me ignora todos los caracteres del epañol, como
tildes y eñes.

Uso los filtros dj690c-low, dj690c y dj690c-best.
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Re: Impresión_ASCII_y_acentos

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mié, sep 06, 2000 at 07:11:18 -0500, Carlos López wrote:
 Esos filtros son de apsfilter, magicfilter u otro ??
 Yo he usado siempre magicfilter y nunca he tenido ese
 problema ...

Magicfilter.
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WebMail

2000-09-06 Thread Carlos López
Aguien conoce algún soft de gestor de correo via
interface web con soporte de múltiples dominios y
cargas altas ??

Gracias. Y saludos

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Obtenga su dirección de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com
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Error al ejecutar man

2000-09-06 Thread Ignacio García Fernández
Hola, lista:

Cuando intento ver la página de manual de emacs me aparece el siguiente
error:

man: bad fetch on multi key locale5
man: index cahe /var/cache/index.bt corrupt

Alguien sabe a que se debe?
Cómo puedo solucionarlo?

Gracias.

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generador de passwords

2000-09-06 Thread TooMany
Buenas.

¿Existe algún paquete que trabaje en conjunción con el adduser, y que
genere automáticamente una password para el usuario que se cree?
Lógicamente, al crearla deberá mostrarla (un poco estúpido el comentario,
pero por si las fly's)... ;)

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Fuentes demasiado grandes en potato

2000-09-06 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
Hola,
Acabo de instalar una POTATO en un equipo y resulta que la
mayoría de las fuentes de los programas de XWindows salen
demasiado grandes. Existe alguna forma de cambiar
globalmente el tamaño de las fuentes? Me imagino que tendrá
algo que ver con el sevidor de fuentes xfs-tt pero he tocado
el fichero de configuración y no parece cambiar nada.

Hasta más bits,

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Re: Fuentes demasiado grandes en potato

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mié, sep 06, 2000 at 04:37:39 +0200, Jose Luis Trivino wrote:
 Hola,
   Acabo de instalar una POTATO en un equipo y resulta que la
 mayoría de las fuentes de los programas de XWindows salen
 demasiado grandes. Existe alguna forma de cambiar
 globalmente el tamaño de las fuentes? Me imagino que tendrá
 algo que ver con el sevidor de fuentes xfs-tt pero he tocado
 el fichero de configuración y no parece cambiar nada.

Edita /etc/X11/XF86Config y permuta 100dpi con 75dpi.
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Cambio de IRCNAME en el Bitchx (Potato)

2000-09-06 Thread Yo mismo
Hola lista:

 ¿Cómo puedo cambiar el IRCNAME con el Bitchx? Parece que lo coge
directamente del campo del nombre en el /etc/passwd. He intentado poner
variables en el .ircrc y en los ficheros del directorio .bitchx pero no
hay suerte.

 Gracias.

 Virgilio



Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mié, sep 06, 2000 at 01:31:56 +0200, David Charro Ripa wrote:
 Tu router ADSL probablemente lo pueda hacer. Tienes que redirigir un
 puerto de la dirección IP externa a otro puerto en una dirección
 interna. Es el IP Masquerading pero de fuera a dentro.
 Leete el howto del router adsl que allí vienen ejemplos de como montarte
 un servidor web o de quake (en general de lo que quieras) accesible
 desde internet. Cógelo aquí.
 
 http://www.volados.org/docs/Router-ADSL-COMO-v0.20.txt

Leido y estudiado pero resulta que al tipo que lo escribió TD le configuró
el router con DHCP enabled y a mi con DHCP disabled así que no me atrevo a
variar nada no vaya a perder la configuración, me cambie la IP de acceso al
router y no pueda acceder nunca más :-?

Mi problema sigue siendo asignar mi dirección IP pública del router (que por
lo visto es lo que hay donde pone DSL WAN IP Address) a mi dirección
privada, de forma que pueda acceder desde fuera. Otra cosa es montar una LAN
y acceder todas las máquinas por NAT al exterior, pero ahí es donde más
tengo miedo porque tengo que variar un montón de cosas, para empezar,
activar DHCP.

El problema por tanto es: 172.26.0.1 -[relacionarlo]- 195.x.y.z
  Gateway   Gateway
  IP privadaIP pública
  

Yo levanto el interfaz de red de forma estática y si lo hago mediante dhcp
en /etc/network/interfaces no me pilla la IP, lógico dado que DHCP está
disabled. ¿No podría habilitar la configuración por DHCP?, resultaría todo
infinítamente más fácil.

En fin, que tengo un pelín de lio :)
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Re: Cambio de IRCNAME en el Bitchx (Potato)

2000-09-06 Thread Jordi
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:52:45AM -0400, Yo mismo wrote:
  ¿Cómo puedo cambiar el IRCNAME con el Bitchx? Parece que lo coge
 directamente del campo del nombre en el /etc/passwd. He intentado poner
 variables en el .ircrc y en los ficheros del directorio .bitchx pero no
 hay suerte.

$ export IRCNAME=Pepito



Instalacion Debian.

2000-09-06 Thread Santiago Romero
 Enas.
 ¿Está la Instalación de Debian traducida? Me gustaría ayudar a su
 traducción al castellano para que la gente pueda instalarla en un
 idioma más asequible a su quehacer diario... ¿como podría contri-
 buir?

 gracias 1000.

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Re: Instalacion Debian.

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mié, sep 06, 2000 at 05:20:55 +0200, Santiago Romero wrote:
  Enas.
  ¿Está la Instalación de Debian traducida? Me gustaría ayudar a su
  traducción al castellano para que la gente pueda instalarla en un
  idioma más asequible a su quehacer diario... ¿como podría contri-
  buir?

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Puedes echarle un ojo a lo que ya hay hecho, muy bueno para mi gusto:
Instalación de Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 para Intel x86
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install
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Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior

2000-09-06 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mié, sep 06, 2000 at 01:31:56 +0200, David Charro Ripa wrote:
 Tu router ADSL probablemente lo pueda hacer. Tienes que redirigir un
 puerto de la dirección IP externa a otro puerto en una dirección
 interna. Es el IP Masquerading pero de fuera a dentro.

Hay cosas que me están mosqueando:
1) No puedo entrar a IRC-Hispano, no se que le pasa. Por ejemplo,
   intento acceder a jupiter.irc-hispano.org y se queda en
   *** Checking WinGate/SocksProxy security...
   De eso no pasa.
   Si lo intento en irc.xchat.org se queda en
   Connected. Now logging in..
   Tampoco pasa.
   
2) No puedo descargar nada con Gnapster, parece que entro pero
   al intentar descargar un fichero en la ventana de Download aparece
   Awaiting connection...
   Y ¡tampoco pasa! :-?

3) No puedo enviar correo mediante Netscape Communicator a mi cuenta
   de CTV (smtp.ctv.es) dado que el servidor responde:
   An error ocurred while sending mail.
the mail server responded:
 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed
 [195.57.33.128].
Please check the message recipients and try again.

Me huelo que tiene que ver con lo de mi IP visible desde el exterior y de
que a efectos de seguridad debo de ser un perfecto peligroso cracker en
potencia dado que no se sabe dónde estoy y no se puede verificar nada
respecto a mi. 

La IP que pongo en el caso 3 (correo con Netscape) es el más flagrante dado
que la dirección coincide con la DSL WAN IP Address, que obviamente no he
puesto su valor real para que no hagais cosas feas ;-D

En fin que de desorientado paso a estar un poco cabreado, ¿cómo puede hacer
Telefónica semjante chapuza?, ¿acaso no saben que estas cosas y más pueden
pasar?, :-|
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Re: WebMail

2000-09-06 Thread void


On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Carlos López wrote:

 Aguien conoce algún soft de gestor de correo via
 interface web con soporte de múltiples dominios y
 cargas altas.

Puede que la convinacion de qmail con vpopmail qmailadmin y sqwebmail te
pueda resultar interesante .

Un saludo



Re: Configurar video intel i810 para X

2000-09-06 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:00:03PM -0600, ALEJANDRO ROMERO wrote:
 Hola,
 Alguien que me ayude a configurar la tarjeta de video es una intel i810
 integrada al motherboard tengo patata en una dell optiplex gx110 con 128
 MibiBytes de RAM

Como no tengo una, no te puedo decir mucho, sólo que estés al tanto de que
necesita un módulo del kernel.

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Seguridad

2000-09-06 Thread Miguel Angel Rodríguez Reyes



Hola:

Alguien sabe de alguna lista de discusion de 
SEGURIDAD en linux que este en nuestro idioma???


Gracias :-)
Miguel Angel Rodríguez Reyes.



Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior

2000-09-06 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

El 06 Sep 2000 a las 04:52PM +0200, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez escribio:
 Leido y estudiado pero resulta que al tipo que lo escribió TD le configuró
 el router con DHCP enabled y a mi con DHCP disabled así que no me atrevo a
 variar nada no vaya a perder la configuración, me cambie la IP de acceso al
 router y no pueda acceder nunca más :-?

No importa. Eso afecta a la asignacion de direcciones internas. Las pones
a mano y listo. Si son pocas máquinas, no importa, si son muchas, es una
currada.

 Mi problema sigue siendo asignar mi dirección IP pública del router (que por
 lo visto es lo que hay donde pone DSL WAN IP Address) a mi dirección
 privada, de forma que pueda acceder desde fuera. Otra cosa es montar una LAN
 y acceder todas las máquinas por NAT al exterior, pero ahí es donde más
 tengo miedo porque tengo que variar un montón de cosas, para empezar,
 activar DHCP.

La configuracion del router permite redirigir un puerto exterior a una
maquina interior. Lee la documentacion. No se que router tienes. Tu IP
pública en principio es dinámica, pero dicen por ahí que es casi casi casi
siempre la misma. Entra en algún sitio como la pagina de info de usuario
de CTV y verás desde qué direccion te conectas.

 El problema por tanto es: 172.26.0.1 -[relacionarlo]- 195.x.y.z
   Gateway   Gateway
 IP privadaIP pública
 
 
 Yo levanto el interfaz de red de forma estática y si lo hago mediante dhcp
 en /etc/network/interfaces no me pilla la IP, lógico dado que DHCP está
 disabled. ¿No podría habilitar la configuración por DHCP?, resultaría todo
 infinítamente más fácil.

No, ya te digo. Da igual. Si añades equipos en el interior, ponles el
mismo default gateway que al que te funciona y asigna direcciones
172.26.0.3, 4, 5

Espero que te valga de algo.

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Re: ADSL y accesibilidad desde el exterior

2000-09-06 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola otra vez.

El 06 Sep 2000 a las 05:58PM +0200, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez escribio:
 Hay cosas que me están mosqueando:
 1) No puedo entrar a IRC-Hispano, no se que le pasa. Por ejemplo,
intento acceder a jupiter.irc-hispano.org y se queda en
*** Checking WinGate/SocksProxy security...
De eso no pasa.
Si lo intento en irc.xchat.org se queda en
Connected. Now logging in..
Tampoco pasa.

No se, no entiendo mucho de IRC y no se que hace el servidor tratando de
verificar algun rollo tuyo. He oido que usa identd. Si puedes, deshabilita
identd en el router (si lo puedes hacer desde la configuracion) para que
reciba cuanto antes un reject y no espere a que te autentifiques. Te lo
digo de oidas. No lo controlo.

 2) No puedo descargar nada con Gnapster, parece que entro pero
al intentar descargar un fichero en la ventana de Download aparece
Awaiting connection...
Y ¡tampoco pasa! :-?

¿FTP? ¿Gnapster puede usar algo asi como el modo pasivo del ftp?

 3) No puedo enviar correo mediante Netscape Communicator a mi cuenta
de CTV (smtp.ctv.es) dado que el servidor responde:
An error ocurred while sending mail.
 the mail server responded:
  5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed
  [195.57.33.128].
 Please check the message recipients and try again.

Claro. Ahora no tienes IP de ctv, ¿no? ctv controla desde qué ip le tratan
de enviar por su smtp. Configura tu mta para que entregue directamente los
mensajes en vez de a un relay, o usa un relay de tu proveedor.

 En fin que de desorientado paso a estar un poco cabreado, ¿cómo puede hacer
 Telefónica semjante chapuza?, ¿acaso no saben que estas cosas y más pueden
 pasar?, :-|

Las hacen peores, pero esta que cuentas no me parece chapuza (vaya, habría
que ver tu instalación). Parece un típico lio de router del que no sabes
exactamente como se comporta y como está configurado.

Saludos.

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Re: Usuarios de correo

2000-09-06 Thread Camilo Alejandro Arboleda


On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 02:56:42 Jaume Sabater wrote:
 ¿Cómo que no? Yo gestiono mas de 150 usuarios de correo, y no tengo ningún
 problema en hacer que se llamen ascde.fghijk... Lo de los 8 carácteres,
 ¿no son los passwords?

Gracias Jaume. La verdad es que siempre agregaba los usuarios con adduser y
al tratar de crearlos con esos nombres fallaba. Usé useradd y funcionó 
perfecto :))

 
 At 18:20 05/09/00 -0500, you wrote:
 Hola!
 
 Quisiera saber si alguno de ustedes conoce la forma para crear usuarios
 de correo con nombres estilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 
 
 Me he leído toda la documentación del exim y no encuentro como. Siempre
 los nombres de los usuarios de correo son los mismos de los usuarios del
 sistema, y por lo tanto no pueden tener mas de ocho caracteres.
 
 Gracias,
 
 Camilo Alejandro Arboleda
 
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Re: (linux-br) Debian 2.2 e XFree 3.3.6

2000-09-06 Thread Cleyton Luiz Scherer

Faltou dizer qual gerenciador de janelas você quer executar com o X.
Crie o ~.xinitrc e coloque o seu gerenciador de janelas preferido.

Cleyton




DVi ou seria ISDN? =)

2000-09-06 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Ae pessoal estou para colocar uma linha dvi aqui em casa ela
a tecnologia ISDN... e adquiri tb o modem...  eh facil configurar
ela no linux? qual seria melhor? uma pci ou uma isa? onde
eu encontro os drivers? qualquer dica tah legal =)


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Re: DVi ou seria ISDN? =)

2000-09-06 Thread Cesar Cardoso
 Ae pessoal estou para colocar uma linha dvi aqui em casa ela
 a tecnologia ISDN... e adquiri tb o modem...  eh facil configurar
 ela no linux? qual seria melhor? uma pci ou uma isa? onde
 eu encontro os drivers? qualquer dica tah legal =)
 
Configurar uma placa ISDN em Linux nao e' trivial como um modem externo,
mas e' simples. Tem um DVI-HOWTO feito por este que vos escreve (que
manda esta mensagem via ISDN, por acaso) em http://bandalarga.cjb.net

Sucesso!

- Cesar



REDE

2000-09-06 Thread cosmo
All

Duarante a instalacao do debian 2.1 algumas configuracoes da rede, como ip 
e netmask, eram
feitas durante a instalacao. Quando fui instalara o debian 2.2 essas 
configuracoes nao foram
perguntadas. Entao aqui vai a minha duvida.

- por acaso alguem conhece algum aplicativo para configura a rede ?!?
- se nao por acaso alguem tem algum texto que explique como configurar !?!?


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Re: REDE

2000-09-06 Thread Christoph Simon
 All
 
 Duarante a instalacao do debian 2.1 algumas configuracoes da rede, como 
 ip e netmask, eram
 feitas durante a instalacao. Quando fui instalara o debian 2.2 essas 
 configuracoes nao foram
 perguntadas. Entao aqui vai a minha duvida.
 
 - por acaso alguem conhece algum aplicativo para configura a rede ?!?
 - se nao por acaso alguem tem algum texto que explique como configurar !?!?

Edita /etc/network/interfaces e voilà!

HTH

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Re: chaves de gnupg/pgp-i

2000-09-06 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Claro que sim, segue abaixo: 

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Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

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rO/Si0ek97bTCIusQzJF/pA=
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-END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-

Carlos Laviola wrote:
 
 Queria saber se o pessoal 'assíduo' da lista (Baptista, KoV, Gleydson etc.)
 teriam keys de GnuPG para eu adicionar no meu pubring. A minha está
 disponível no endereço abaixo, que vocês podem ver na minha .sig. Aliás, o
 e-mail dessa minha key é o meu antigo, pois o SBT OnLine (provedor)
 encerrou suas atividades mês passado e me deixou na mão, e até agora não
 sei como mudar o endereço de e-mail para o atual. Mas tudo bem, eles usavam
 Windows NT mesmo :)
 
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Re: chaves de gnupg/pgp-i

2000-09-06 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 Queria saber se o pessoal 'assíduo' da lista (Baptista, KoV, Gleydson etc.)
 teriam keys de GnuPG para eu adicionar no meu pubring. A minha está
 disponível no endereço abaixo, que vocês podem ver na minha .sig. Aliás, o
 e-mail dessa minha key é o meu antigo, pois o SBT OnLine (provedor)
 encerrou suas atividades mês passado e me deixou na mão, e até agora não
 sei como mudar o endereço de e-mail para o atual. Mas tudo bem, eles usavam
 Windows NT mesmo :)

Não seria bom disponibilizar as chaves do pessoal envolvido na
página da debian-br?  

[]'s
Helio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unix system engineer



Re: REDE

2000-09-06 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 - por acaso alguem conhece algum aplicativo para configura a rede ?!?
vi ou emacs.

 - se nao por acaso alguem tem algum texto que explique como configurar !?!?
netstat(1)   - show network status
route(8) - manually manipulate the routing tables
ifconfig(8)  - configure network interface parameters

[]'s
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Re: chaves de gnupg/pgp-i

2000-09-06 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Excelente idéia.
Mais uma coisa pro meu TODO do feriado.
Quoting Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  Queria saber se o pessoal 'assíduo' da lista (Baptista, KoV, Gleydson etc.)
  teriam keys de GnuPG para eu adicionar no meu pubring. A minha está
  disponível no endereço abaixo, que vocês podem ver na minha .sig. Aliás, o
  e-mail dessa minha key é o meu antigo, pois o SBT OnLine (provedor)
  encerrou suas atividades mês passado e me deixou na mão, e até agora não
  sei como mudar o endereço de e-mail para o atual. Mas tudo bem, eles usavam
  Windows NT mesmo :)
 
   Não seria bom disponibilizar as chaves do pessoal envolvido na
 página da debian-br?  
 
 []'s
 Helio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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debian.org.br br.debian.org

2000-09-06 Thread thecore
Povo,

Eu estou entrando em contato com o pessoal do linusp para
tentarmos resolver o caso do mirror oficial debian no brasil. 

Em todo o caso, como parece que o linusp está sofrendo de 
esvaziamento de pessoal (a conectiva anda contratando todo mundo :)  )
é sempre bom sabermos de antemão se podemos contar com outros mirrors 
web/ftp para o projeto.

A CIPSGA representa através de mim o interesse do projeto debian,
e registramos o debian.org.br (se alguém conhecer o dono do debian.com.br
e puder persuadí-lo a doá-lo para a comunidade...) para que o interesse
do projeto no Brasil fosse preservado, e que este não fosse associado
diretamente a nenhuma empresa particular (mesmo a Core, que patrocina o
registro do domínio).

Gostaríamos que www.debian.org.br e www.br.debian.org fossem
apontados para mirrors do projeto, outros subdomínios poderiam ser
usados para outros fins, como por exemplo criarmos um site do nosso
esforço brasileiro (http://brasil.debian.org.br ou algo assim), mas
é importante ao nosso ver que mantenha-se a identidade do projeto com
relação ao www.debian.org.br


Gostaria de receber comentários quanto à disponibilidade de
mais mirrors nacionais do projeto (www ou ftp ou ambos) e da idéia
de criarmos um site para unirmos nossos esforços (e legitimá-los
através do domínio *.debian.org.br) desvinculados de qualquer
interesse ou nome comercial, que aliás pode muito bem nascer do 
atual debian-br.

O que vocês dizem?

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Re: (linux-br) Debian 2.2 e XFree 3.3.6

2000-09-06 Thread Taupter
Cleyton Luiz Scherer wrote:
 
 Faltou dizer qual gerenciador de janelas você quer executar com o X.
 Crie o ~.xinitrc e coloque o seu gerenciador de janelas preferido.
 
 Cleyton

Senhores,


O Debian usa por padrão um link simbólico para definir o window manager
que será usado por padrão. O caminho do mesmo é:

/etc/alternatives/x-window-manager

Esse link simbólico deve apontar para o executável do gerenciador de
janelas a ser usado. Caso o gerenciador de janelas não seja válido ou o
caminho esteja incorreto, o X não iniciará corretamente.

A alternativa do ~.xinitrc só alterará o comportamento para um usuário,
enquanto o /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager é system-wide.


Cláudio



Re: DHCP client setup for @Home

2000-09-06 Thread Andrei Ivanov
I'm on @home as well, and pump just failed badly for me. However, dhcpcd
worked out of the box, so to say:
dhcpcd -h XXX did the job right then.
Andrei

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Re: dist-upgrade

2000-09-06 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:32:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, I had potato on my computer and decided to upgrade to 
 unstable.  I added the unstable line to sources.list and did apt-get 
 dist-upgrade.  I rebooted, and the whole system locks up when it 
 starts to load tcplogd.  Does anyone know what this means?

Probably a DNS lookup hang. Is there anything weird about your hostnames
and such?

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Re: Wine 20000801

2000-09-06 Thread Frank Copeland
On 5 Sep 00 21:05:48 GMT, Richard Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have just upgrade to wine (my first upgrade of wine for some time).
I've run into a couple of problems.  The first one was:

[...]

LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable.  However, after this, wine just hangs whenever
I try and use it (it will print out the version number and help screen
though)

Does anyone else have this problem?

You will find there have been fairly major changes in the default
/etc/wine.conf, and I'd recommend saving your old one, installing the
new one, then reapplying any changes you had previously made.

However, the libwine .deb is missing an essential library file, so it
won't work anyway. For now your best bet is probably to stick with the
wine released with potato.

Frank



Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?

2000-09-06 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:10:15AM -0700, Dexter Graphic wrote:
 apt-get install task-helix-gnome?
 
 Does anyone know if the helix-gnome updater will work with 
 Debian 2.2? I have the helix-gnome 1.0 CD and a very slow 
 connection so it would be nice if I could just update the 
 parts of gnome that have changed in version 1.2. 
 
 My concern is that the updater works with Red Hat packages 
 rather than Debian packages.

The beauty is, you don't need it. apt will do the job just splendidly.
If you want a GUI front-end, I guess gnome-apt works okay (don't know
from experience).  Besides, heard there were some security probs with
that thing...

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compiling a kernel

2000-09-06 Thread Mark Simos
I am a newbie, and am curious as to what exactly compiling a kernel does
for me.

I have some vague impression that it does something like make your OS
run better on your machine or allow you to add in and remove support for
stuff.

Simply put, why?

Any pointer to good documents or personal commentary is appreciated.

Thanks!

Mark

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Poet, Playwright, Swing Dancer




How to get proposed-updates.

2000-09-06 Thread Brendan J Simon
I'm running some PowerPC and Intel machines with Debian 2.2.

How do I edit my /etc/apt/sources.list to access the proposed-updates or
potato-proposed-updates directory on the Debian mirrors.

I searched the archives but didn't come up with anything helpful.  Is
there a README, HOWTO, or website that has this information ?

Thanks,
Brendan Simon.





Re: compiling a kernel

2000-09-06 Thread ktb
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Mark Simos wrote:
 I am a newbie, and am curious as to what exactly compiling a kernel does
 for me.
 
 I have some vague impression that it does something like make your OS
 run better on your machine or allow you to add in and remove support for
 stuff.
 
 Simply put, why?
 
 Any pointer to good documents or personal commentary is appreciated.

You can select services that might not be offered by the default
kernel, such as sound support.  It makes you boot time shorter if you
trim out what you don't need.  You can pick your cpu type which
should optimize things a bit.  

Install the kernel source and kernel packages.  Read the docs there if
you decide to compile.
hth,
kent



Re: How to get proposed-updates.

2000-09-06 Thread Brendan J Simon
Don't worry I figured it out.  I didn't have a trailing / after propose-updates.
ie. I had
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian dists/proposed-updates
instead of
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian dists/proposed-updates/

Brendan Simon.



Brendan J Simon wrote:

 I'm running some PowerPC and Intel machines with Debian 2.2.

 How do I edit my /etc/apt/sources.list to access the proposed-updates or
 potato-proposed-updates directory on the Debian mirrors.

 I searched the archives but didn't come up with anything helpful.  Is
 there a README, HOWTO, or website that has this information ?

 Thanks,
 Brendan Simon.

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Re: Where is the grub floppy?

2000-09-06 Thread Daniel E. Baumann
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
 Hello all. I am attempting to install the Hurd, but the link to the grub
 floppy on the Easy Guide is broken. So where do I get the GRUB floppy image
 from?
 
 Also, is there anything  I should watch out for with reagrds to e2fsprogs
 versions? I am running woody.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
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Never mind, I found it at /gnu/grub on alpha.gnu.org. It helps to actually
read things on the server (duh). I need the grub-0.5.95-boot.image file,
right?

Dan
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Re: Mail-Followup-To still broken in mutt/exim

2000-09-06 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:20:42PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:25:55PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
 
  BTW: your Mail-Followup-To is still broken: user `karsten' does not
  exist on my system.
 
 I've been trying to address this, am somewhat stymied by my own
 inexperience in the area.
 
 First, I've got a rewrite rule in /etc/exim.conf:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
 {$value}fail} bcfrF
 
 /etc/email-addresses has:
 
 karsten kmself@ix.netcom.com

Maybe replace that with:

karsten:kmself@ix.netcom.com

I don't know how I came up with colons in mine, but it works.  The
lookup is like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\ 
{$value}fail} Frs

I don't accept mail from foreign hosts, so... My ISP is particular about
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Re: logging interaction between minicom and modem

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:22:12AM -0400 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Is there a way to log the interaction between minicom and modem 
 similar to what chat sends to ppp.log and syslog? 
 
 Ever since I upgraded to potato last weekend chat hasn't gotten along 
 with my modem (external 57600 USR sportster) 
 

yeah ppp scripts are annoying.  i use wvdial at home and it works with any
distro (that i've tried).

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Re: Where is the grub floppy?

2000-09-06 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:56:10PM -0500, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
 On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Daniel E. Baumann wrote:
  Hello all. I am attempting to install the Hurd, but the link to the grub
  floppy on the Easy Guide is broken. So where do I get the GRUB floppy image
  from?
  
  Also, is there anything  I should watch out for with reagrds to e2fsprogs
  versions? I am running woody.

You can just install the GRUB package under woody, then go from there...
I did it a month or so ago, and with some fiddling got it all set up
nicely.  I haven't tried the Hurd yet, 'cause there's no ppp (AFAIK).

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Re: Helix and Galeon

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:10:59AM -0400 or thereabouts, Joey Tsai wrote:
 
 I don't think there is a Galeon Debian package, in either Debian proper or
 from Helixcode.  I heard Helix was going to package it, but I also heard it

oh there is.  lookie in
http://silverchair.futureks.net/~solomon/galeon/potato.html

i got my answer in a few minutes (this mailing list is great!) and installed
galeon on my gnome-helix setup.  works like a charm.



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Re: WP5.1 under DOSEMU uses 100% CPU all the time

2000-09-06 Thread kmself
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 04:06:02AM +0200, I. Tura ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   Hi to all,
 
   After configuring DOSEMU I've started running WP5.1 for DOS there.
 Everything seemed fine but it happened an event I feared. If I use WP the
 CPU starts going near to 100% and this bugs me a lot, specially because I
 can end hearing the laptop fan. I always needed tranquility when I was
 writing short stories with it (the only use I give to WP5.1) so no good deal.

Not sure if it's relevant, but you might look at your hogthreshold
setting under /etc/dosemu/dosemu.conf.  I believe DOS doesn't provide
native CPU throttling, but Linux allows you to throttle CPU utilization
of the DOS emulator as a whole.

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Re: Firewall message in /var/log

2000-09-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
Purging and re-installing ipmasq resulted in networking with
masquerading now working again (I still don't know how it broke).

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:06:25PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 I rebooted today and started getting the same messages (lots of them!)
 All networking ceased to work.  I recompiled my kernel without
 masquerading and I can now connect, but of course without firewalling
 or masquerading.  I suspect there was a recent package update which
 caused this, but I haven't found out which one (neither netbase tcpd nor
 ipmasq appears to have been updated recently).
 
 Bob
 
 On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:46:44PM +0100, Barry Samuels wrote:
  Can anyone tell me why I should keep getting this message in my
  /var/log/messages (I'm afraid I don't speak ipchains):
  
  kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 192.14.17.1:513
  192.14.17.255:513 L=136 S=0x00 I=244 F=0x T=64 (#30)
  
  I set my firewall up with PMFirewall supposedly to ignore my
  internal network.

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Re: Filesystem layout and hi everybody

2000-09-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:28:33AM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed wrote:

 Another question relating to FS layout and organization: which
 partitions should be mounted NOSUID ? Someone on another (local) mailing
 list recommended that I mount /home NOSUID as a security precaution.

the better question is what partitions should NOT be mounted
nosuid. the answer is / /usr and possibly /usr/local.  everything else
should be mounted nosuid unless you have a specific need for a suid or
sgid binary on the filesystem. 


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Re: Firewall message in /var/log

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:46:44PM +0100 or thereabouts, Barry Samuels wrote:
 Can anyone tell me why I should keep getting this message in my
 /var/log/messages (I'm afraid I don't speak ipchains):
 
 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 192.14.17.1:513
 192.14.17.255:513 L=136 S=0x00 I=244 F=0x T=64 (#30)
 
 I set my firewall up with PMFirewall supposedly to ignore my
 internal network.
 
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you didn't tell us more about the services or setup your running.
did you setup pm using the defaults?


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Re: gnupg help

2000-09-06 Thread Vee-Eye
Sie schrieben:
 
 On 05-Sep-2000 Carlos Laviola wrote:
  Hello people,
  
  I know this is not Debian-related in any way, so please forgive me for
  posting here. My question is: is there a way to change a e-mail address in
  a gnupg key? My previous ISP (sol.com.br) is gone now, so I am using a new
  one, with a new e-mail address, and would like to display that change in my
  gnupg keys. How can I do that, if possible?
  Thanks.
  
 
 you can make an alias but the best thing is to make a new key.

Generating a new key would be the best solution, that's right. But have a look
at the gpg --edit-key yourkey menu. [You could add an uid (adduid) and 
then
delete the old one (surprise: deluid]
...

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Re: downloading debian GNU/Linux 2.2

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:48:46PM -0400 or thereabouts, Antonio Rodriguez 
wrote:
 
 Go to
 ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/
 
 Get all base*, recue*, root*, driver*

you only need two diskette images - rescue.bin and root.bin

the rest can be installed via http or ftp

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Re: [SLU] Re: Netscape Bookmarks

2000-09-06 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:23:22PM -0500, ktb wrote:
 On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Shel Johnson wrote:
  Ok, here's a dumb one.. How do you find a file directory that starts with
  a dot?.. Are they hidden?.. I know the location is: /home/shel/.netscape ,
  but when I look for it, all I see is: /home/shel .. Does that make any
  sense??...
  
 
 As far as I know there are no directories starting with a .  In order
   
   Huh? I'll bet you a pizza there are...


 to find a dot file use this command --
 ls -a directory
 
 Just --
 ls -a 
 in the current directory.
 
 Take a look at the ls man page for other useful stuff.
 
 you could also use --
 locate .netscape
 
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Re: Compiling VMware 2.0.2

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:38PM -0700 or thereabouts, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 Install either the 2.2.17 source or kernel-headers-2.2.17pre-whatever
 (I expect that since 2.2.17 has been released, there will soon be a new
 version).

yup i got it to compile now.  thx to all who replied.


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Re: installing openssh

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:23:14PM -0400 or thereabouts, Scott wrote:
 hi,  was noticing that on the news update titled Debian GNU/Linux 2.2,
 the Joel 'Espy' Klecker release, is officially released openssh is
 listed as one of the new software packages.  i can't seem to find the
 openssh package under dselect, can anyone help me?  im updating my list
 from woody and not potato, but i can't understand why potato would have
 it and not woody.  thanks for your help.
 

place the ff in your sources.list and do an apt to install it:

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free
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Re: autolog error message

2000-09-06 Thread kmself
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:19:37AM -0300, Ariel O. Garcia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 A second question: I would like to have autolog close idle
 console logins (/dev/tty's, that works ok), idle telnets into that 
 machine and idle X_sessions (:0 for instance) but _not_ xterms inside :0
 Both telnet sessions and xterms have /dev/pts/#  as device... how could I
 treat them differently?

Kill the process with a telnetd parent?

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Re: apt-get and glibc update

2000-09-06 Thread Federico Grau
Ok folks, thanks for your help so far.  Next questions, 

1) I added ( deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main ) to my
sources.list file... I briefly checked (re-ran apt-setup) to see if I could
use my local mirror (tux.org) for the security updates... but it appears this
section is not mirrored... is this correct?  How else can one see what is
getting mirrored where?

2) I have a couple questions from the output of running apt-get upgrade.  My
output follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  communicator
4 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 6101kB of archives. After unpacking 8447kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y

 - I am disturbed that it does not tell me the package names before performing
   the upgrade (if I recall correctly, normal apt-get upgrades do)?!

 - What is the significance of communicator being held back... I recall
   reading some problems with the redhat rpms breaking java with communicator,
   but what is my debian system trying to do with communicator and why

thanks again for the help, debian rocks!
donfede

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:52:03PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:
 Federico Grau wrote:
  
  Actually ... no :-( ... I commented that line out because I did not know 
  what
  it did and could see no mention of it in the man page (sources.list 5).
  
  Why would security updates need a seperate sources line?  Shouldn't they
  simply be considered part of the distribution?
 
 security fixes are usually quick patches to fix a hole not fully tested.
 an example of this is redhats glibc update (a couple days ago?) seem to
 have broken their JDK setup, someone on bugtraq reccomended that people
 that need JDK either don't use the update or recompile JDK under the new
 glibc.
 
 once they are fully tested and declared stable they are usually put into
 the distribution. 
 
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Silly modules question

2000-09-06 Thread Paul D. Smith
So, I've set up a number of modules, including ALSA (built from source,
not the deb package), etc. so I understand the structure of
/etc/modutils and update-modules, etc.

I have an old Adaptec 1522 SCSI card in my system that's just used to
drive my old SyQuest EZDrive.  I can't figure out how to configure it to
load the aha152x module for me automatically.

I have this in my /etc/fstab:

  /dev/sda1 /sydos vfat noauto,user 0 0

When I try mount /sydos, I get:

  mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device
 (maybe `insmod driver'?)

If I insmod the module by hand, it works.

I'm missing the magic needed to connect the sda1 device with the aha152x
driver.  Is there some char alias I have to set or something?  For my
ethernet card I used:

  alias eth0 modulename

Do I just need an alias sda aha152x or something?  Do you just alias
a device like that?  Is there some documentation somewhere discussing
this?  Similarly, I decided to try using the 2.2.17 builtin support for
the SB Live! emu10k1 rather than Alsa as I was using before; I had all
the alsa stuff set up in modutils perfectly.  Does anyone have an
example of this for the 2.2.17 kernel emu10k1 module?

Also in modutils/scsi I have this:

  options aha152x aha152x=0x340,9

These parameters are required but if I just use insmod aha152x they
don't get used; I have to add them explicitly.  I'm assuming that if the
kernel loads that module for me automatically it'll see those options in
modules.conf?

Thx.

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TCP/IP Receive Window

2000-09-06 Thread Paul McHale
Hi,

I just had DSL installed and was told to adjust the DefaultReceiveWindow in
the windows registry.  This dramatically improved performance.  To be clear,
my understanding of the setting is this.  It defines the amount of data
which can be sent before an ACK must be received.

The logic is the overhead of ACKs becomes tremendous as the link speeds up.
I believe the default is 8KB.  That is to say only 8KB can be sent before an
ACK must be received.  With a slow link, this worked great.  Missing ACK -
retransmit only 8KB.  With faster links, one is constantly waiting for ACKs.

My question regards the setting for Linux.  What is the default size?  Where
is it defined?  Please keep in mind, latency is the critical factor here.
When an ACK takes 200ms to be received, it is very detrimental to wait for
ACKs.  Even fast lines often suffer this latency.  Of course, Bandwidth and
Latency are separate issues.  Bandwidth is reduced as a function of latency
due to handshaking nature of the protocol.  This also implies LANs would
suffer as much as the latency should be very low.

Side Issue:  This is what led to dramatic performance increases when sliding
window protocols such as zmodem emerged.  I wonder if TCP/IP uses any
sliding window technology.  Probably not since the parameters of the
exchange are not rigidly defined as in zmodem.  I don't believe it does use
sliding window but would love to hear if it does or will.




Regards,

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RE: Debian vs. Red Hat

2000-09-06 Thread Paul McHale
Wayne,

 It's to anyone,  I've mainly used Debian, because of it's
 stability, but our
 ISP has a contractor who's opinion is   Red Hat's the best,
 thats why they
 are so popular.  I want to dipute this, but I need more than just my own

It is my experience most people feel whatever they are familiar with is the
best for situation.  I don't think I know *that* much about debian.  I do
know .deb is worlds better than .rpm.  When it comes to debian, you are
talking to the choir.

You ISP just has familiarity with red Hat.  This may make it a better
solution for them.  I am biased towards debian, but from an ISP (sysadmin)
standpoint debian is great at installing/maintaining packages.

In my opinion debian could be unfamiliar territory as it doesn't readily
offer graphical configuration utilities like RedHat.  I find these to be
more of a hindrance.  They lead to the windows mentality of What just
happened?  I don't know either but is works now!.

The install of debian was (is?) pretty painful.  Compared to redhat, it is
monumental for the uninitiated.  I recommend Storm or Corel for the
installation challenged.  I think their install easily rivals Redhat.  It
can't get much easier than Corel.  Storm is not far behind.  Both
(especially Storm) offer apt-get (auto install and maintenance of packages)
with a high degree of debian compatibility.

There are curious parts of debian.  Debian has a religious issues with
/usr/local.  Some packages really want to be there (I.e. apache).  This can
easily be worked around.  You just have to watch when you read documentation
which assumes the software was installed in the /usr/local directory.  Some
publicly available scripts must be modified as well.  All in all, very
workable.  Just a curious departure.

For what it's worth, I have some friends who use redhat.  When it comes to
accomplishing tasks such as setting up a mail server, I can run circles
around them.  Debian is the finest server I have seen with support (this
list server) that would make Gates blush.  Recently, I installed sendmail.
I was up and running in less time than it would have taken me to find and
download the .rpm for Redhat.

Just my biased two cents.

Do keep in mind, I administer my own machines for my own consulting
business.  If I didn't find debian to be better, it would be out of here
yesterday.  I don't get paid for administration of the servers.  They are
expected utilities for a technical company such as mine.  I have tried
Redhat, Mandrake and Slackware.  Debian is the hands down winner for me.  It
simply costs less to operate.

Ironically, I was very happy with NT server.  It was stable enough for my
needs.  I couldn't get Frontpage server extensions to work properly under
IIS with multiple domains.  It started costing me money to play with it.  I
always had a debian mail server.  I installed Apache/frontpage and haven't
looked back.  Sad that frontpage works better under apache than IIS.  Go
figure.

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Re: gnupg help

2000-09-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 07:30:12AM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote:

 Generating a new key would be the best solution, that's right. But have a look
 at the gpg --edit-key yourkey menu. [You could add an uid (adduid) and 
 then
 delete the old one (surprise: deluid]

except if you already have uploaded to a keyserver you won't be able
to delete the uid very effectivly since keyservers only merge data,
not remove.  same thing with anyone who already has your key, if they
merge your new key with the new uid they will have a key with both
uids.  

uid deletion only effects your local keyring it will not propagate. 

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Re: Problems rebooting after compiling a new kernel

2000-09-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Rajesh == Rajesh Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Rajesh (Then I moved /lib/modules/2.2.17 to /lib/modules/2.2.17.old)

Please note that this location shall not be used by either
 your old kernel, nor you new one. May I humbly suggest
 kernel-package, and specifically point you to the FLavours.gz
 documentation therein? 

 Rajesh (Then I moved /boot/System.map and /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 likewise)
  cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/map
  cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage

Your modules and system.map files are saved, but are not live;
 your old kernel, regardless of its current name, shall still look for
 its modules and map file in the original location.

 Rajesh (I changed the symlinks /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old to reflect the 
changes
 Rajesh in /boot)

Well, you should not be surprised if the latter does not work.

 Rajesh I edited /etc/lilo.conf to add a new block for /boot/bzImage)
  /sbin/lilo

 Rajesh No lilo errors popped up so I rebooted and once it came time for the 
new
 Rajesh boot process I got this error..
 Rajesh VFS: Cannot open root device 16:01
 Rajesh Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 16:01

Umm. You are compiling the IDE hard disk suport as a module. And
 you have no SCSI support at all.

# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m

So your IDE Hard drive is compiled as a module. But the module
 can't be accessed until we can read the hard drive. 

 Rajesh To try to fix things I tried to reboot with the boot floppy I
 Rajesh made when I initially installed Debian but I get a *lot* of
 Rajesh module dependencies problems(I'm assuming because of
 Rajesh /lib/modules/2.2.17.old )but one which just won't go away and
 Rajesh blocks the login process is

Well, your old kernel, on the floppy, can't find any of its
 modules, since /lib/modules/2.2.17 now contains a new set of
 modules. 


 Rajesh Can someone please point out what I did wrong and how I can
 Rajesh correct it. If it's not reparable then what steps do I need
 Rajesh to take once I reinstall and before I reboot with the new
 Rajesh kernel. Thanks in advance.

If you have the Debian rescue floppy, just boot into that,
 switch to virtual console 2 (Alt-F2), and mount your root device
 under /mnt. Go in, and move the /mnt/lib/modules/2.2.17 to
 2.2.17.new, and likewise with System.map (I would not touch the
 actual images). Exit, remove the rescue disk, and boot back to the
 old image (which should no longer have module problems).

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Re: kde or gnome?

2000-09-06 Thread Ian Zimmerman
 Joachim == Joachim Trinkwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

itz window manager, and at present the only window manager with full
itz support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'.

Joachim That's nonsense, many window managers have Gnome support now,
Joachim e.g. icewm-gnome, wmaker, sawfish-gnome.

Joachim Most integrated in Gnome is sawfish, which is configurable
Joachim through the Gnome control center. Sawfish seems to be quite
Joachim so lightweight; please try it out.

Read the quote again.  I wrote the only wm with _full_ support etc.
If sawfish is Most integrated, the others are necessarily less
integrated, or not?  I don't want the wm and the desktop to step over
each other, and that's precisely what happens with wmaker when the
wmaker frills and the desktop frills overlap.

I did omit to mention sawfish, for which I apologize.

Another point is that I want to use the debianized versions of things
where possible, and I think that's what the original question was
about, too.  I am sure many of the wm's have better Gnome support now
in their bleeding edge versions, but I will not use them.

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Re: Mail-Followup-To still broken in mutt/exim

2000-09-06 Thread kmself
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:10:10PM -0700, Eric G . Miller (egm2@jps.net) wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:20:42PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:25:55PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
  
   BTW: your Mail-Followup-To is still broken: user `karsten' does not
   exist on my system.
  
  I've been trying to address this, am somewhat stymied by my own
  inexperience in the area.
  
  First, I've got a rewrite rule in /etc/exim.conf:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
  {$value}fail} bcfrF
  
  /etc/email-addresses has:
  
  karsten kmself@ix.netcom.com
 
 Maybe replace that with:
 
 karsten:kmself@ix.netcom.com
 
 I don't know how I came up with colons in mine, but it works.  The
 lookup is like:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\ 
 {$value}fail} Frs
 
 I don't accept mail from foreign hosts, so... My ISP is particular about
 the 'Sender' header... for outgoing mail, hence 's'.

I've got one current additional box on the system, and plan to have
additional soon (laptop, other random boxen).  So there will be some
internal delivery going on.

I also just found this Exim FAQ, which appears to address the question
I'm concerned with:  http://exim.ping.uio.no/FAQ.html#SEC201

Basically, it's this:

  o Rewrite all references to 'karsten' for mail being delivered outside
the local network, changing them to 'kmself@ix.netcom.com'

  o Don't modify any references to 'karsten' for mail delivered on the
local host or within the local network.

...I'm getting the impression this isn't the sort of rule Exim likes to
have to deal with.  Is Sendmail a better option?

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Sound Card CMI8738 (C-Media) and missing cdrom drive??

2000-09-06 Thread Glyn Millington
Hi folks - I'm on Debian Potato and I'm trying to set up for
sound.  My sound card is a CMI8738.  Has anyone managed to get
one of these working, and if so which driver did you use?

on related topic:- during boot-up I'm getting a No CD-Rom drive
found message, as below 

 snip ---
hda: FUJITSU MPE3084AE, ATA DISK drive
hdb: ATAPI 48X CDROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: FUJITSU MPE3084AE, 8063MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63
hdb: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
pcd: pcd version 1.07, major 46, nice 0
request_module[paride_protocol]: Root fs not mounted
pcd0: Autoprobe failed
pcd: No CD-ROM drive found

- snip --

Can't find any info about pcd.  Is THIS why I can't play cds??

Thanks for all the help thus far

Glyn M 



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Re:Joe editor

2000-09-06 Thread Adrian Nims
The command apt-get install joe gave me the follwing answer:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package joe

What can I do next ?

Adrian Nims










R: staroffice .bin

2000-09-06 Thread marco frattola




 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Andrew Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You mean to tell me (and the debian-user list) that
 the .bin file for Star
 -office that I downloaded is executable?

yes, it is. you have to chmod it if it's not
 
 What does it _do_ when you execute it?  

it does staroffice installation and setup.
if you use it with the /net switch, it can installa one copy of
the product which every user can use. since it can take as much
as 280MB per user (with single install), the /net switch is a must
for anyone with more than one user on a machine
 
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horde: install problem

2000-09-06 Thread Joel Gautschi
hi,

if i try to install the horde debian package (horde 2:1.2.0-12) for debian
unstable i get the following warning:

---
Working, please wait...Checking non-HORDE config files
   WARNING 
You stated your using PostgreSQL as a database and
that it is local yet the install program cannot seem
to find the config files for it.  The install program
will NOT confiugre your database for use with HORDE
and thus will not function properly until you get this
fixed.

Please press ENTER
---

press ENTER doesn't work. I have to end with ctrl+c
why do I get this warning? I don't have a PostgreSQL database - I have a
MySQL DB. Or do I have configured it somewhere?

thanks for an answer...

cya
Joel





how to reconfigure a package? (debconf)

2000-09-06 Thread Bruno Boettcher
Hello,
due to some bug, when debconf starts up the enter key is devalidaded,
so upgrading of my machine is impossible i wanted to change the
setting for debconf... but couldn't figure how to force reconfiguration
of a package

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rewrite and change document root on apache

2000-09-06 Thread Jaume Teixi
thank you Craig,
I've setup Document Root for each virtual host on
/var/www/www.virtualhost1.com

I made stats for each virtual host on
/var/reports/www.virtualhost1.com

On Apache I want to forward http://virtualhost1.com/stats to
/var/reports/virtualhost1.com

I've setup:

Alias/reports/  /var/reports/
RewriteRule  ^/stats(.*)/reports/%{SERVER_NAME}$1

but Alias has no effect on rewrite and is looking from default Document
Root:
/var/www/www.virtualhost1.com/reports/www.virtualhost1.com

and produces a 404  :(


bests,
jaume.



Re: Firewall/IP-masquerading

2000-09-06 Thread Willi Dyck
 on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:59:25PM -0700, Nate Amsden sent 1.1K bytes on
 their merry way:
  not sure what kernels your using but:
 
I am using kernel 2.2.16.

 I'm using 2.2.17 (woody)
 
  - i've never gotten MASQ to work with DNS on 2.2 i've always had to
 put
  a DNS on the masq machine and point machines to it instead, this was
 not
  the case in 2.0 where it was able to masq without any trouble.
 
 DNS works fine fromt he other side of my MASQ router; Perhaps there is
 some difference between UDP dns requests and TCP? *shrug*
 
 I would suspect some stray ipchains rule is denying the DNS traffic.

No rules are denying DNS traffic.
I even can't ping any host from the firewalling box although a connection
to my ISP is established, surely.
 
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Re: Firewall/IP-masquerading

2000-09-06 Thread Willi Dyck
 Nate Amsden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  not sure what kernels your using but:
  
  - i've never gotten MASQ to work with DNS on 2.2 i've always had to
 put
  a DNS on the masq machine and point machines to it instead, this was
 not
  the case in 2.0 where it was able to masq without any trouble.
 
 Hmm. I'm not sure what you mean here. I have a firewall/masq machine
 and I know for a fact that my main PC, which sits behind this
 firewall, has no problem reaching my remote DNS servers using
 masquerading (I don't currently run a DNS server myself).
 
  try putting a DNS on yer masq box and point everything to it.
 
 Yikes! That's not a trivial task and it's of questionable value given
 what I'm able to do, as stated above.
 
  Willi Dyck wrote:
   
   Hi.
   
   I don't understand the world (Debian)anymore.
   As soon as I compile things like
   - ip firewalling
   - ip masquerading
   - ip forwarding into the kernel, I can't ping any host by it's name.
   I am able to ping IP's. Seems like a DNS Lookup failure. But why??
   I didn't changed any file I only compiled the features listed above.
   When I boot the old kernel again the problem seems to be gone.
   WHY??? What is the logical thing here???
   Thanx for your help.
 
 My guess is that you've got a chain in the default rules that's
 blocking DNS access. DNS access isn't a simple one to block/unblock,
 if I remember correctly. Just look at the logs (/var/log/syslog) and
 see if any of the output rules, with a source inside your LAN, is
 being denied. Personally, if I were you I'd get PMFirewall,

I have no chains blocking DNS access, I'm only blocking telnet and
netbios.
And /var/log/syslog isn't saying a word about ipchains. I wonder if my
firewall script was started at startup/links are set. How to check it?
 
 http://www.pmfirewall.com/PMFirewall/
 
 And start with the rules they insert and build on that.
 
 It's quick, asks simple questions and gets you going quickly.
 
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Re: Joe editor

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:40:43AM +0300 or thereabouts, Adrian Nims wrote:
 The command apt-get install joe gave me the follwing answer:
 
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 E: Couldn't find package joe
 
 What can I do next ?
 
what you do next is give us a glimpse of your sources.list or check them
yourself and make sure they are correct.

did you do an apt-get update first?
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new machine froze, how to debug

2000-09-06 Thread Krzys Majewski
Oh man, after reading all these scary faulty-hardware posts I shook
in my boots a little after coming home and finding my new machine 
frozen solid. It was running xseti at the time FWIW. 
Where should I start looking?
-chris




Re: Netscape 4.75 problems

2000-09-06 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote:
 Anthony Campbell wrote:
  
  On 05 Sep 2000, Dale L . Morris wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   I am currently running 4.73 Netscape from potato and it works
   fine. But when I do the apt-get upgrade it ignores the netscape
   packages for 4.75. Anyone know why?
  
  
  [snip]
  
  How do you get to 4.73? I got 4.06 when I upgraded slink to potato.
  I have upgraded subsequently via proposed updates but this has not
  yielded 4.73.
 
 i found upgrading from slink to potato yielded many many non upgraded
 packages, the system would say it is up to date but if i did a manual
 install (xchat comes to mind) apt-get install program apt would
 realize that the program is outdated and upgrade it. odd!! happened on
 every machine i upgraded.
 
 nate
 

Thanks for reply. Now the question is, which netscape package(s) should
I ask for? When I upgraded via proposed-updates I got some version of
netscape-base4.75 (can't remember which), but there are numerous
netscape packages on the site and I don't know which to tell apt-get to
fetch.

Anthony


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Re: TCP/IP Receive Window

2000-09-06 Thread Nate Amsden
Paul McHale wrote:

 I just had DSL installed and was told to adjust the DefaultReceiveWindow in
 the windows registry.  This dramatically improved performance.  To be clear,
 my understanding of the setting is this.  It defines the amount of data
 which can be sent before an ACK must be received.

for some reason win9x is not tweaked by default for networks, this kind
of adjustments is not required(or needed) in linux.

default linux 2.2 settings for defaultrecieve window is 65535

you can tweak it all you like but i suggest keeping it as it is unless
you are having problems, i have setup many linux boxes on dsl
connections and they all absolutly SCREAM.

look at /proc/sys/net/core

each of the files in there stores a setting, you can change it by:

echo some updated setting filename

changes will take effect right away(no reboot required!) you can also
look at the configuration in /proc/sys/net/ipv4

if you want more info on how to tune network subsystems on various OSs
check this page out:

http://www.psc.edu/networking/perf_tune.html

hth

nate

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Re: Netscape 4.75 problems

2000-09-06 Thread Nate Amsden
Anthony Campbell wrote:

 Thanks for reply. Now the question is, which netscape package(s) should
 I ask for? When I upgraded via proposed-updates I got some version of
 netscape-base4.75 (can't remember which), but there are numerous
 netscape packages on the site and I don't know which to tell apt-get to
 fetch.

to be clean i'd remove any existing netscape packages first and install
it fresh. i believe the package i have installed is 'communicator'.

Package: communicator
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: contrib/web
Installed-Size: 22
Maintainer: Ryan Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: netscape4.base
Version: 1:4.75-1
Depends: communicator-smotif-475, netscape-java-475
Conflicts: netscape-base-406, netscape-base-407, netscape-base-408,
netscape-base-45, netscape-base-451, netscape-base-46,
netscape-base-461, netscape-base-47, netscape-base-472,
netscape-base-473
Description: Meta package that depends on other packages
 This package depends on the real netscape packages, so as to
 make things easier for people to install.
meta-package: yes

i think i got this from security.debian.org im not sure if its available
on the main mirrors yet.

nate

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Re: apt-get and glibc update

2000-09-06 Thread Nate Amsden
Federico Grau wrote:

  - I am disturbed that it does not tell me the package names before performing
the upgrade (if I recall correctly, normal apt-get upgrades do)?!

that one i can't answer it'd be nice if it did! i get the same ..

 
  - What is the significance of communicator being held back... I recall
reading some problems with the redhat rpms breaking java with communicator,
but what is my debian system trying to do with communicator and why

i don't understand why (i've had this happen too) from what i've seen
when something like that is held back sometimes it is because it
depends on other things where you did not tell apt to install, i've
always been able(as far as i know) get around this by forcing an
install, in this case 'apt-get install communicator' will tell apt to
install that..then you can get more detailed info on any problems(if
any) there are.

nate


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Re: compiling a kernel

2000-09-06 Thread Paul McNally

When you install Linux it comes with a stock kernel and
a ton of device drivers. You want to compile a kernel to
cut down to the device drivers you need. If you'd like
pointers to documentation, send me an email.

Paul




Re: new machine froze, how to debug

2000-09-06 Thread kmself
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:53:08AM -0700, Krzys Majewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Oh man, after reading all these scary faulty-hardware posts I shook
 in my boots a little after coming home and finding my new machine 
 frozen solid. It was running xseti at the time FWIW. 
 Where should I start looking?

System logs.  Disks on startup fsck.

When did the system crash?  What logs were last modified?  What do they
say?

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Re: new machine froze, how to debug

2000-09-06 Thread Nate Amsden
Krzys Majewski wrote:
 
 Oh man, after reading all these scary faulty-hardware posts I shook
 in my boots a little after coming home and finding my new machine
 frozen solid. It was running xseti at the time FWIW.
 Where should I start looking?
 -chris

you can start specifying all the hardware, i found that [EMAIL PROTECTED] would
lock my BP6 *EVERY SINGLE TIME* it was like clockwork. so if you have a
BP6 ..replace it. or take the 2nd cpu out. see
http://www.snurgle.org/~griffon/bp6-linux.html for more info.

you can also get a program called cpuburn to burn in the cpu, cpuburn
also comes with a chipset tester(only supports a few chipsets). there
are several memory checkers available(see freshmeat)

if you don't have a BP6, run stress tests on it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a great
program to stress the cpu/cache/memory/IDE controllers/hdds.  for a
128MB machine 7 copies of [EMAIL PROTECTED] running at the same time for 2-3
days is a good test i've found. for 256MB maybe increase it to 12. etc
etc. (im sure that rc5 is just as good as seti but ive never tried it
myself)

run this in console mode, make sure there is no X at all running. if it
passes the test, then run (from inside X) x11perf -all (cant believe i
remembered that command! last week i couldnt..) that will run a series
of graphics tests, it can take hours to complete, if the machine does
not lock up, run it again, or maybe try loading it a 2nd time and run 2
copies(not sure if that would work) if that all passes .then it may
be safe to say the system is pretty stable and just xseti is buggy(which
last i saw their readme strongly iterates it is beta/alpha software)

nate

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Re: Sound Card CMI8738 (C-Media) and missing cdrom drive??

2000-09-06 Thread Frederik
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Glyn Millington wrote:

 Hi folks - I'm on Debian Potato and I'm trying to set up for
 sound.  My sound card is a CMI8738.  Has anyone managed to get
 one of these working, and if so which driver did you use?

Well, I succeeded after I recompiled the kernel with the sound card
drivers compiled as modules. It's somewhere in the README I believe. Maybe
this is fixed in later kernel-versions. Also, I used the driver from the
manufacturer's website, since the one used in 2.2.14 was older (but this
is not necessary, they both work, as long as they are compiled as module)

Good luck,

Frederik



Funny login comment...

2000-09-06 Thread Triggs; Ian
Hi, just after I managed to get my cable modem working under linux I
noticed some funny things started happening to my computer.  For example,
when I login it gives me the message:
PAM_unix[390]: (login) session opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0)

and then after the login message it says:
login[390]: ROOT LOGIN on `tty1'

Also, syslogd takes a long time to start upon startup, would this have
anything to do with it?

Also, I only want dhclient to get one IP address, not one for both
ethernet cards in the computer.  How would I stop it from doing this?
My /etc/network/interfaces file looks like this:

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255

iface eth1 inet dhcp


Thanks for your help,

Ian





Re: LILO-rific

2000-09-06 Thread John Pearson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:15:56PM -0700, Tal Danzig wrote
 Hello,
 
 Set boot to /dev/hda (the MBR) and your setup should work just fine.
 
 Tal
 

If you're really paranoid, you can use it as-is; you just have to
use fdisk (linux or windows) to make /dev/hda3 (and only /dev/hda3)
active/bootable after installing LILO.  That tells the DOS MBR which
partition boot record to load.

 On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:08:55 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 : Okay, I pretty much get LILO... Here's my deal: Windows in on hda1, Linux 
 is 
 :  on hda3 (hda2 is a compaq backup, and hda4 is Linux Swap).  What I want to 
 :  have happen is that when I start my comp without any boot floppies or CDs, 
 I 
 :  have the choice to load Win or Lin.  I would like Win as default, and I 
 would 
 :  like a password protecting Win, although that's not so important.  What 
 I've 
 :  got as my lilo.conf at this point (which I have not yet loaded with the 
 lilo 
 :  command) is:
 :  
 :  boot=/dev/hda3
 :  root=/dev/hda3
 :  install=/boot/boot.b
 :  map=/boot/map
 :  vga=normal
 :  delay=20
 :  other=/dev/hda1
 :  label=Win
 :  table=/dev/hda
 :  password=secret
 :  image=/vmlinuz
 :  label=Linux
 :  read-only
 :  
 :  I'm a little confused about boot being set, since shouldn't that maybe be 
 :  hda1, since windows MBR, er... I really don't get that part so well.  The 
 :  last question is: As of now I'm using a floppy to boot to Linux.  
 Otherwise 
 :  the system boots to Windows no questions asked, since I haven't touched 
 the 
 :  MBR.  If I load lilo into the MBR, and I decide it's not working out for 
 me, 
 :  is there a quick way to pull it back out?  Much thanks, bye!
 :  
 :  -Chris
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Re: Netscape 4.75 problems

2000-09-06 Thread John Pearson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:20:04PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote
 On 05 Sep 2000, Dale L . Morris wrote:
 
 [snip]
  
  I am currently running 4.73 Netscape from potato and it works
  fine. But when I do the apt-get upgrade it ignores the netscape
  packages for 4.75. Anyone know why?
  
 
 [snip]
 
 
 How do you get to 4.73? I got 4.06 when I upgraded slink to potato.
 I have upgraded subsequently via proposed updates but this has not
 yielded 4.73.
 

Like the kernel, Netscape packages are version-specific; that is
to say that different versions are treated as separate packages,
not as different versions of the same package.

To install the latest statically-linked version of Netscape
Communicator, use something like

# apt-get install communicator-smotif-475

If you want to track the latest release, try

# apt-get install communicator

Communicator is a meta-package that depends on the latest
statically-linked release; that way if Communicator 4.76 makes
it out the door and gets packaged, you should get it along
with everything else when you go

# apt-get update; apt-get upgrade


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Re: Joe editor

2000-09-06 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Do apt-get update first, so that it loads all available packages. Make sure 
first that
you have all needed entries in your sources.list for apt-get.

Adrian Nims wrote:

 The command apt-get install joe gave me the follwing answer:

 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 E: Couldn't find package joe

 What can I do next ?

 Adrian Nims

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Grainy Gnome

2000-09-06 Thread Rino Mardo
I'm not sure what's causing this but my X settings looks grainy on Gnome (using
Sawmill for wm).  To be check if helix-gnome is supposed to look grainy I
booted to Win2K and went to helixcode's website.  There I saw what helix gnome
is really supposed to look and I like what I saw.  So my question is:

How can I remove the grainyness out of my X install?

I have 2.2 and installed helix-gnome from spidermonkey .deb files and I have a
3D Rage Pro AGP 2X vidcard with 8MB ram and using 1024x768 res and 32 bpp.

My resolution is no problem it's only this grainy texture that bothers me.

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Re: Grainy Gnome

2000-09-06 Thread Peter Malewski
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Rino Mardo wrote:

 I'm not sure what's causing this but my X settings looks grainy on Gnome 
 (using
 Sawmill for wm).  To be check if helix-gnome is supposed to look grainy I
 booted to Win2K and went to helixcode's website.  There I saw what helix gnome
 is really supposed to look and I like what I saw.  So my question is:
 
 How can I remove the grainyness out of my X install?
 
 I have 2.2 and installed helix-gnome from spidermonkey .deb files and I have a
 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X vidcard with 8MB ram and using 1024x768 res and 32 bpp.
 
 My resolution is no problem it's only this grainy texture that bothers me.
 
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Problem with the instalation!!!

2000-09-06 Thread Peter Antoniac
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Dear debian-user@lists.debian.org,

I have huge problems with installing the packages from potato.
It seems that /debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz is
corrupted gzip file:
invalid data crc error.
I tried in vary ways to fix it myself but it is impossible to avoid
the thing since it is the Package file ;((
PLEASE help me pass the step so that I can install some of the
packages from the main distribution.
Thank you.

Sincerely,
Peter
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