Peueño fistro en potato

2000-10-07 Thread Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia
Hola:

He detectado un pequeño bug en la potato, tanto en la de opencd como en la
de la revista. Se trata del editor cedit del mc. Pues no instala el
fichero debian-source-list-syntax en /usr/lib/mc/syntax necesario para dar
colorido al /etc/apt/source.list. Os ha ocurrido a vosotros?


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Re: Debian es Debian

2000-10-07 Thread Manel Marin
Hola,

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 07:35:22PM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote:
 El jueves 05 de octubre de 2000 a la(s) 12:38:59 +0200, Fernando contaba:
 
 ( por cierto, ¿ como pronuncias [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? :-)
 
  Debianeros   y   debianeras,   aunque  si   fuese   político,
  probablemente diría debianeras y debianeros. :^).
 

Para evitar la discusión de cual se pone antes yo forzaria el genero con un
adjetivo calificativo neutro, ejemplos:

comunidad debianera (comunidad es femenino)
colectivo debianero (colectivo es masculino)
personas debianeras
gente debianera
...


A mi me gusta mas el primero ¿que os parece?


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Re: Mutt y GTK

2000-10-07 Thread Antonio Beamud Montero
Ricard PG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 2.- Ya hace tiempo que al intentar compilar algo para GTK me dice que no
 tengo el script gtk-config ... alguien sabe en que paquete esta?
 
  Es el script que se acompaña al paquete de desarrollo (-dev), para
  que no tengas que aprenderte la 20.000 librerias dinámicas con las
  que enlaza, por ejemplo con cc miprog.c -o miprog `gtk-config
  --cflags` ` gtk-config --libs` te inserta todo lo necesario para
  compilar el programa.

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Re: Ha salido la Potato

2000-10-07 Thread Roberto Diaz
 La estoy probando ahora mismo, y como dicen los peques, los pequeños 
 locos, está muy
 chupi, chupi...
 Saludos a todos.-
 Linux registered # 128.563.

Me van a regañar pero bueno.. a veces no queda más remedio..

Debian es sin duda la distribución a instalarse.. siempre que uno tenga
plena libertad sobre su sistema..

Lo dice alguien vendido a RedHat.. ;)

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Retardo en el Telnet

2000-10-07 Thread Antxon Alonso Lopez

Hola a todos.

He instalado Debian potato en una maquina con dos interfaces de red.

Durante la instalacion configure una de ellas para trabajar en Internet y
posteriormente la otra aqadiendo las pertinente entradas en los siguientes
archivos:

/etc/hosts
/etc/networks
/etc/network/interfaces

Esta segunda tarjeta de red quiero utilizarla para conectar el equipo a la
red local.

Todo funciona correctamente, de hecho he instalado samba para acceder desde
la red local y lo veo todo perfectamente.

Lo que me mosquea es que cuando intento realizar una conexion telnet con el
equipo (desde un equipo de la red local) la conexion tarda 2 minutos y 40
segundos en realizarse (siempre el mismo tiempo, !!lo he cronometrado!!)

Desde el mismo equipo si hago un telnet a la direccion de internet (la
configurada durante la instalacion) la conexion es inmediata. En cambio si
intento conectarme desde el mismo equipo a la direccion de la red local...

Connected to 192.161.128.99
Escape character is '^]'
Connection closed by foreign host

?Sabeis que es lo que esta ocurriendo? ?y como solucionarlo?

Saludos y gracias de antemano.



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dselect

2000-10-07 Thread Gerard
...una pregunta, que no se habia abandonado dselect como
programa de instalacion de paqutes?
es que me sale en la instalacion de la potato




Re: sources.list para directorio local

2000-10-07 Thread Unikoke
Coordenadas temporales: Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 01:41:50AM +0200
Sujeto: Juan Ignacio Llona
Comunicaba sobre: sources.list para directorio local

 Hola a todos!
 
 He comprado la Potato de Sólo Programadores Linux (bien!!) y resulta que
 el cuarto CD no es apt-able (mal!!). Bueno, pues me hago una copia local

¿Estas actualizando desde Slink? En ese caso probablemente estés
utilizando al apt de dicha versión.

Haz apt-cdrom a los tres primeros CDs, apt-get install apt y después
prueba a meter el cuarto Cd de nuevo.

Salu2
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Re: dselect

2000-10-07 Thread Unikoke
Coordenadas temporales: Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 01:56:04PM +0200
Sujeto: Gerard
Comunicaba sobre: dselect

 ...una pregunta, que no se habia abandonado dselect como
 programa de instalacion de paqutes?
 es que me sale en la instalacion de la potato

No, me parece que leí que se iba a dejar para Woody. De todas formas
si no te gusta el dselect (a mi sí me gusta ¿Soy raro Doctor? ;-) con
instalar la base y dejarla tal cual, luego puedes instalar lo que
quieras con el apt...

Salu2
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netscape en potato

2000-10-07 Thread Debian User
bueno, antes que nada si llega este mail, estoy hecho.
es el primero que intento con mutt, exim, y etc.

cuando instalo netscape 4 de potato y trato de ejecutarlo me dice:

netscape-remote: not running on display :0.0

que esto es?

un abrazo
cypenguin



Off Topic: MSLinux (risas)

2000-10-07 Thread Roberto Ripio

Hola a todos:

Me como un poquito de ancho de banda para que os echeis unas risas,

http://www.mslinux.org

Saludos, y buen fin de semana.
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Ayuda urgente. No aparecen usuarios!!

2000-10-07 Thread Fermín Manzanedo
Hola, ahora os escribo desde win98, porque en Debian no me deja mandar nada.
Os cuento:

Esta tarde he entrado en el sistema, como siempre con mi log y mi pass de
usuario. He estado trabajando normal, y he querido abrir otra consola.
Introduje mi log y pass y esto es lo que salió:

I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Lo raro es que fui directamente a mi /home :-???

Luego he intentado mandar un correo, y mutt esto es lo que me ha contestado:

2000-10-07 19:55:13 Failed to get username for uid 1000
...
Error al enviar mensaje, proceso hijo terminó 1 ().

He intentado mandar este mensaje como root, pero tampoco me deja.
Antes de cambiar a win98 intenté entrar en las X (como usuario) pero no me
ha detectado mi .xinit y lo único que ha hecho ha sido abrir el gestor de
ventanas, no abrir GNOME.

Por favor ayudadme que esto tiene mu mala pinta :'-((

Un saludo, Fermín.
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Re: Ayuda urgente. No aparecen usuarios!!

2000-10-07 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hola

comprueba que los permisos del /etc/passwd sean de lectura para todo el
mundo (tranquilo, los paswwds estan encriptados...)

suerte!





RE: Ayuda urgente. No aparecen usuarios!!

2000-10-07 Thread Fermín Manzanedo
Hola! esto es rapidez y eficacia ;-)))
Como soy un enreda, le había quitado los permisos a passwd y claro... y como
son nuevo, pues no se me ocurrió que podia ser eso.

Ya está arreglado, un saludo y muchas gracias!
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Subject: Re: Ayuda urgente. No aparecen usuarios!!


 Hola

 comprueba que los permisos del /etc/passwd sean de lectura para todo el
 mundo (tranquilo, los paswwds estan encriptados...)

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configurar servicios (ftp, telnet, finger...)

2000-10-07 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ferm=EDn_Manzanedo?=
Hola,
una vez resuelto el tema de los usuarios y passwd continuo con el correo que 
iba a mandar a la lista. Tengo una conexión desde casa a internet, y me he dado 
cuenta de que, novato de mi, tengo un montón de servicios disponibles que dudo 
mucho utilice alguna vez.
Esto es lo que sale al hacer un netstat -ta en mi máquina:

Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State
tcp0  0 localhost.localdo:16001 localhost.localdom:2840 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 localhost.localdom:2840 localhost.localdo:16001 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 *:4000  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 localhost.localdo:16001 localhost.localdom:1096 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 localhost.localdom:1096 localhost.localdo:16001 ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 localhost.localdo:16001 *:* LISTEN
tcp  220  0 213.4.234.207:1093  64.124.41.224.naps: ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 *:1030  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:6000  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:printer   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:auth  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:finger*:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:ftp   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:telnet*:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:time  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:daytime   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:discard   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:738   *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:1024  *:* LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN

De utilizar alguna vez, serían el ftp, smtp(lógicamente, ¿no?), imagino que 
printer (¿impresora?) y el X11 (este último nunca desde remoto). En alguna 
ocasión telnet.
No se lo que significan daytime, sunrpc, kerberos (creo que sirve para recordar 
la contraseña, ¿no?), ni discard. También utilizaría gnomeICU y el napster, que 
me imagino que utilizarán algún puerto de los anteriores(en el momento de hacer 
netstat -at estaban abiertos).
El ftp siempre (o casi siempre) sería a la misma máquina (al igual que el 
telnet). De todas formas, si en /etc/hosts.deny y hosts.allow pongo solo el de 
esa máquina siempre podría cambiarlo y poner la IP de la otra ¿no?.

En concreto, mi pregunta es: ¿Qué servicios puedo mantener y cuales me 
recomendáis quitar? y, ¿Cómo puedo cerrar los puertos que no voy a utilizar?. 
He leído el Security-HOWTO pero no me lo ha aclarado mucho...

Perdonad por la extensión del mail y muchas gracias de antemano. Un saludo.
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Re: configurar servicios (ftp, telnet, finger...)

2000-10-07 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hola
 
 De utilizar alguna vez, serían el ftp, smtp(lógicamente, ¿no?), imagino que 
 printer (¿impresora?) y el X11 (este último nunca desde remoto). En alguna 
 ocasión telnet.
 No se lo que significan daytime, sunrpc, kerberos (creo que sirve para 
 recordar la contraseña, ¿no?), ni discard. También utilizaría gnomeICU y el 
 napster, que me imagino que utilizarán algún puerto de los anteriores(en el 
 momento de hacer netstat -at estaban abiertos).
 El ftp siempre (o casi siempre) sería a la misma máquina (al igual que el 
 telnet). De todas formas, si en /etc/hosts.deny y hosts.allow pongo solo el 
 de esa máquina siempre podría cambiarlo y poner la IP de la otra ¿no?.
 
 En concreto, mi pregunta es: ¿Qué servicios puedo mantener y cuales me 
 recomendáis quitar? y, ¿Cómo puedo cerrar los puertos que no voy a utilizar?. 
 He leído el Security-HOWTO pero no me lo ha aclarado mucho...
coge el /etc/inetd.conf y comentas lo que no quieras (recuerda que es
parte servidor, para usar napster no hay ninguan referencia en el
inetd.conf)

entonces haces /etc/init.d/inetd restart y ya tendrás más cerrados

es posible que tengas algun daemon corriendo que te abra un puerto, miralo
con ps aux a ver si hay sendmail en el 25 o algo así...

suerte


 
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apt

2000-10-07 Thread Gerard
como se lanza el apt?
lo tengo instalado y no lo consigo lanzar

Por cierto, mi opinion sobre dselect... no es que sea muy buena, el sistema
instalador de suse (yast1, que es es modo texto) lo encuentro bastante mejor
(el mejor sistema de instalacion que he probado...)
al igual que el dselect tiene unas divisiones sobre paquetes (xwindow,
sistema base, documentacion...) pero con la diferencia que esta en distintas
subsecciones, me explico, hay una primera seccion donde esta la division
(sistema base,
kde...) y entras dentro de ella y seleccionas los paquetes propios de esa
seccion, de esta
forma no hay una pantalla interminable y poco funcional como ocurre con el
deselect; ademas
no pone el tamaño de los paquetes, el espacio libre del disco...

Espero que el apt este mejor.

Como nota positiva (que tendria que haber alguna ;) me gusta el mantenimiento de
los paquetes
que hace debian... (basicamente la principal razon para instalarmela...)





Re: Clientes napster en potato

2000-10-07 Thread Xose Manoel Ramos
El Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:12:28AM +0200, Joaquin Fernandez Piqueras contaba:

Hola!

¿Que me decís del Lopster?

No está dentro de la distribución, pero existe en paquete ebian.
Bien empaquetado por cierto. Sólo depende del GTK, tiene bastantes
opciones y no se cuelga demasiado: http://lopster.sourceforge.net 

Tambien hay uno de consola (Teksper) y parece que está de miedo.

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RE: qvwm (esto es un bug del paquete, ¿verdad ?)

2000-10-07 Thread Ricardo Villalba

-Mensaje original-
De: carlos saldaña [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: jueves 5 de octubre de 2000 21:52
Asunto: Re: qvwm (esto es un bug del paquete, ¿verdad ?)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:

 Si ocurre esto que se comenta, es que es un bug del paquete que se
deberia
 reportar ¿no?.
 Saludos.


No me parece tan grave. He visto que tanto xload como xbiff y xeyes
vienen en el paquete xcontrib; luego si tienes instalado éste, el
qvwm te funcionará a la primera sin necesidad de editar nada.
Lo único que tal vez sí el qvwm debería sugerir  xcontrib a la
hora de instalarlo, pero no creo que pueda llamarse bug a esto.


Bueno, en todo caso el qvwm no debería fallar tan estrepitosamente al no
encontrar unos programa que no son en absoluto imprescindibles para su
funcionamiento. Para mí esto sí es un bug.

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RE: ISO-8859-15 (sobre el euro)

2000-10-07 Thread Ricardo Villalba

-Mensaje original-
De: Hue-Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: jueves 5 de octubre de 2000 12:46
Asunto: ISO-8859-15 (sobre el euro)


 Buenas.

 Hace un par de décadas o tres me bajé un euro-1.5b3.tar.gz y
lo
 intenté ver  pero no me  enteré de  nada en la  documentación.
Esta
 noche lo intenté de nuevo y no me fue tan mal. Simplemente con un:

En la Slink conseguí sacar el euro sin tener que bajarme ningún paquete
de ninguna parte. Lo hice siguiendo las instrucciones de la
documentación del kbd (creo).

En la potato aún no me he puesto con ello, aunque me parece que el kbd
ha sido sustituido por console-tools. Supongo que en su documentación
pondrá algo sobre el euro.

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Re: Retardo en el Telnet

2000-10-07 Thread lm


Seguramente tienes configurado un DNS externo para tu red local. Cuando 
haces un Telnet (o ftp o lo que quieras) Windows intenta resolver en nombre 
en el DNS (aunque pertenezca a la red local). Cuando recibe un timeout y se 
cansa de esperar conecta con el equipo que tiene al lado. Yo lo he resuelto 
con un DNS solo caché. Cuando son paquetes internos no salen y cuando son 
de fuera los ruta al exterior. Puedes hacer que tu router sea DNS para la 
red local.


lm 



Salir

2000-10-07 Thread DrAk0
Se~nores
mande la respuesta de salir de la lista y nosale!
quiero retirarme de la lista
no puedo he hecho de todo
y nada
hasta me mandaron un correo con un codigo para confirmar la salida y eso fue
hace dos dias y sigo recibiendo mail
se~nores saquenme por favor.



Re: sources.list para directorio local

2000-10-07 Thread Juan Ignacio Llona
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Santiago Vila wrote:

  Ign file: unstable/main Release
  Reading Package Lists... Done
  Building Dependency Tree... Done
  
  Ign ignoring. Luego no está funcionando. 
  
  Qué estoy haciendo mal?
 
 Nada. apt funciona perfectamente bien sin fichero Release.
 Sigue adelante, debería funcionar.

Efectivamente!
Yo veía el Ign, me imaginaba que era un estado de error y ni siquiera
intentaba instalar nada. Funciona perfectamente. (por pasarme de listo ;)

Muchas gracias a todos aquellos que me han contestado.

'tapronto

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Re: Salir

2000-10-07 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 06:49:26PM -0400, DrAk0 wrote:
 Se~nores
 mande la respuesta de salir de la lista y nosale!
 quiero retirarme de la lista
 no puedo he hecho de todo
 y nada
 hasta me mandaron un correo con un codigo para confirmar la salida y eso fue
 hace dos dias y sigo recibiendo mail
 se~nores saquenme por favor.

Nosotros no podemos.

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Con casi todos los clientes de correo basta con contestar al mensaje para
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Re: 6bone

2000-10-07 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Para los ceporros como yo, ¿qué es el 6bone?

El 06 Oct 2000 a las 11:52PM +0200, Jordi Mallach escribio:
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:28:06PM +0200, Angel Vicente Perez wrote:
  ¿Que limitaciones/condicionamientos tiene hacer esto desde España?
 
 Si encuentras un gateway decente, dímelo, por favor :)
 
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Re: Off Topic: MSLinux (risas)

2000-10-07 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
No me extrañaria mucho, la inversión de Microsoft en Corel tiene una pinta
que da asco

El 07 Oct 2000 a las 06:35PM +0200, Roberto Ripio escribio:
 Hola a todos:
 Me como un poquito de ancho de banda para que os echeis unas risas,
 http://www.mslinux.org
 Saludos, y buen fin de semana.
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Re: glide v3

2000-10-07 Thread Alvaro Alea
BUENOS DIAS!!!
Y entonces, va Rodrigo De la Vega y dice ¿glide v3? 

 Hola listeros
 Tengo una Voodoo3 3k y estoy tratando de hacer funcionar la
 aceleracion 3d en Potato, para lo cual instale el device3dfx (si
 problemas), y libglide2-v3, con lo que logro visualizar las aplicaciones
 que usan 3dfx (xmame por ej.) pero no se ve nitido, mas bien boorroso.
 alguno. Por ultimo me baje el src.rpm de http://linux.3dfx.com, genere
 el rpm de glide y lo converti a deb con alien, y todo funciono muy bien
 (no he podido despegarme del UT aun...).
 ¿Porque no me habran funcionado los deb de glide que trae Potato?,
 ahora tengo ademas el inconveniente de que al querer instalar las lib
 Mesa3d me fallan las dependencias, ya que busca libglide2-v3 y no
 glide-v3, que al parecer, solo difieren en el nombre ¿dpkg basa su
 chequeo de dependencias solo en los nombres?, si es asi, seria lo unico

cuando una libreria cambia de normbre el desarrollador suele añadir unas
lineas del tipo:
provides nombre_viejo
conflict nombre_viejo
Y con eso el deselect se suele apañar, no se que pasaria en ese caso concreto.

 que extraño de Red Hat, ya que al menos rpm detectaba de que libreria se
 trata automaticamente (sin perjuicio de los require indicados por el
 desarrollador).

Bajate las de woody, funcionan sin problemas en potato, yo tengo:
mesag3-glide2 3.2.1-1
libglide2-v3 2.60-6
glide2-base  2.60-6

Y estoy viciao al space-orbit :-)


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screenshots

2000-10-07 Thread Elias Serra P. Pereira
No intuito de montar um rápido tutorial sobre a instalação do Debian,
gostaria de saber como tirar screenshots das telas da instalação. como fazer
isto?? Alguem sabe?

Abraços

 Elias Serra - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Dep. Informática - Suporte
 Grendene Sobral S/A
 



Problema com instalacao do som

2000-10-07 Thread marioviars
Colega da lista:
Instalei e configurei o nosso Debian. Beleza. Soh nao consigo configurar o som.
Estou usando a versao 2.2. Minha placa eh uma Yamaha. Jah tentei instala-la no
inicio com o driver correspondente. Nao deu. Depois tentei com o Alsa. Negativo.
Devo estar errando alguma sequencia. Alguem poderia ajudar?
Um abraco
Mario Teza







Re: Problema com instalacao do som

2000-10-07 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Qual Yamaha?
Veja no diretorio /usr/src/linux/documentation/sound
Tem algumas instrucoes de placas de som.
 
 Colega da lista:
 Instalei e configurei o nosso Debian. Beleza. Soh nao consigo configurar o 
 som.
 Estou usando a versao 2.2. Minha placa eh uma Yamaha. Jah tentei instala-la no
 inicio com o driver correspondente. Nao deu. Depois tentei com o Alsa. 
 Negativo.
 Devo estar errando alguma sequencia. Alguem poderia ajudar?
 Um abraco
 Mario Teza
 
 
 
 
 
 
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(forw) [debian-br] Instalação

2000-10-07 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Pra lista certa.
- Forwarded message from Thiago Volpi Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Thiago Volpi Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [debian-br] Instalação
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:08:13 -0300
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Estou tentando instalar a distribuição da Debian mas estou tendo algumas 
dificuldades. Se vcs puderem me ajudar eu agradeço.
Primeiramente particionei meu disco com o FIPS, em duas partições de 5 
gigabytes. Não consegui colocar a partição do Linux como inicializavel pelo 
FIPS e continuei a instalação, imaginando que eu deveria fazer isso depois.
Na instalação do Debian ele para na segunda tela, em PARTICIONAR O HD. Ele só 
me mostra na unidade a ser particionada o hda, sem estar dividido em hda1 ou 
hda2, como eu esperava. Se eu dou enter na opção hda ele diz que ocorreu um 
erro primário e que não pode prosseguir a instalação. Ao dar enter nessa tela 
ele diz que há um erro na minha tábua de partições e que pode corrigir isso, 
mas então toda os dados em meu hda serão perdidos.
Recusei isso e inicializei pelo windows. No Explorer pude ver que a nova 
partição estava lá, como D, ainda não formatada. Formatei ela pelo windows para 
ver se acontecia alguma coisa mas não mudou nada na instalação do Debian. 
Tentei então colocar um cd da Red Hat, a instalação me mostrou que eu tinha 
duas partições fat 32. Mudei as partições para uma Swap de 128 mega (quantidade 
da minha RAM), uma \, Linux Nativa, de 50 mega, e outra Linux Nativa, com o 
resto, mais ou menos 4800 mega. Dividi as partições assim com o cd da Red Hat 
mas não prossegui na instalação, pq quero o Debian. Coloquei o cd da debian mas 
ele continua com o mesmo erro.
Se vcs souberem o que está acontecendo gostaria que me dissessem o que fazer. 
Ou que me indicassem alguma documentação. Estou com a versão 2.1 do Debian, que 
veio junto com um libro sobre Linux que comprei. Já li uma manual em português 
do FIPS achado na Internet, um em inglês, um pouco maior, o manual de 
instalação da Debian 2.1, um faq sobre problemas na instalação do Debian e um 
manual de Linux em português, de hugo Cisneros. Não sei mais o que fazer.
Peço desculpas pela extensão da mensagem e agradeço a atenção de vocês.
Thiago Volpi Ramos
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Re: OT: mailing list, bounce-debian-user ?

2000-10-07 Thread will trillich
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 08:36:54PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:32:59PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
 
  i guess that this'll help cut down on the my.netvigator.com idiocy?
 
 No.  Pretty much all mailing list software rewrites the envelope sender
 so that bounces don't go to individual subscribers.  This has always
 been the case for Debian lists.  The problem with netvigator is that
 their software is generating bounces to the From: line in the message
 (which is not rerwitten) rather than the envelope sender.

i think they've fixed it. i've not seen any netvigator bounces for
a few days.

(wanna know how i got'm to stop? i found a human at a real email address,
and forwarded all my netvigator.com bounces to him. that way he got
to see all the headers and the inconvenience first-hand. nothing to it!)


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Re: general linux questions

2000-10-07 Thread will trillich
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:13:27PM +0200, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
 will trillich wrote:
  i keep forgetting about xargs. very clever gizmo!
  
  to sort the output by date, it's rather simple:
  
  locate path-match-string | xargs ls -dlt
  
  the -d is so directoriy contents wouldn't be listed, only the directory
  item itself; -l says 'gimme a long listing' and -t says 'sort by modified
  time'...
 
 
 I'm so unsure about the xargs and the exec command. Which one is
 prefered, in which cases should I use one of the two?
 
 Thanks for the command string!

no charge for services rendered...

$ find /path/to/start/in -mtime +7 -exec /bin/ls \{} \;

this will execute /bin/ls filepath for EACH AND EVERY file it finds.
not a problem if you have a quickie subprocess to spawn and respawn.

if you're launching, say, perl, even to run some quickie gadget, reconsider:
perl is frivolous with resources. every startup basically requires blessings
from the pope. nearly.

ANY resource hog is something to launch seldom -- and when it's
up, make it earn its keep.

$ locate some/path/component | xargs behemoth -options

this will accumulate a slew of filepaths to send to xargs; xargs then
will exec 'behemoth' ONCE with the options you supply it, appending
all the filenames to the end of the list.

of course, there's a limit to what you can get away with here; the command
buffer is only so large (i doubt there's facility to accomodate 10k of
arguments for a command -- surely there's someone here who knows the limit
or how to find it). so sometimes you hafta break your find down
into subtasks, or specify more specific items to look for (so you
get less items returned).

--

note -- if you have the locate command available, use it instead of
find when you're looking for a filename pattern system-wide. then you
have a simple linear scan of one file instead of a disk-intensive
manhunt. (with locate you also ought to have 'updatedb' run occasionally
via cron. also, use slocate, which is more security-conscious.)

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Re: Mozilla M17-3 on Woody

2000-10-07 Thread Damien
  I tried Mozilla M17-3 on Woody (mozilla_m17-3_i386.deb) and when i want to 
  start it, it says:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ mozilla
  Starting Mozilla
  Could not obtain CmdLine processing service
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $
 
 Does rm -r ~/.mozilla help?
 BTW: The Mozilla nightly builds are much better than M17. :)
 

i get the same problems, and the pre18 nightlies / ns pr3 segfault
(i had a brief look at the strace, but nothing's obvious.)

removing ~/.mozilla has no effect

cheers

  damien 


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LAN upload speed slow

2000-10-07 Thread iehrenwald
Has anyone ever seen the following situation:

There are three machines on this 10bT LAN:

iansbox (linux 2.4.0-test8, woody)
crapbox (freebsd 4.0)
caseylaptop (windows 98 SE)

caseylaptop can upload and download from crapbox with no problem. FTP,
SAMBA, WWW, whatever.  caseylaptop can download but NOT upload any files
to iansbox via any protocol.  It transfers 50k and just stops.  No
packets going back and forth.  The FreeBSD and Windows machines can toss
files back and forth via SMB and FTP all day long.  When I use the Linux
machine and copy files from either one of the other machines, the network
freezes happen.  

There are no errors in the logs.  Packets just stop getting sent and
received.  

iansbox - crapbox: OK
iansbox - caseylaptop: OK
crapbox - iansbox: Broken
crapbox - caseylaptop: OK
caseylaptop - iansbox: Broken
caseylaptop - crapbox: OK

Do I have a flag set wrong in /proc somewhere?  This is very annoying.
Thanks.
Ian

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Installation Problem (LILO)

2000-10-07 Thread Satyajit Das
Thank you very much  Mr.Matthew Dalton of your excellent details
information of LILO configuration.

I select your  Choice-1 and I sucessfully  configure LILO.
but sir now I face again same problem of my friend's machine.
My friend have  Slackware 3.5  kernel version - 2.0.34 and few days ago
installed Linux-mandrake 6.1
kernel version -2.2.13-7mdk. after installed LinuxMandrake, Slackware
read Mandrake kernel.
I solve my problem (Debian and Slackware ) according to your solution.
but I'm not suceesed here.
I do following way :-

1. put slackware LILO  in  root (hda2) partition.
2. Install Linux-Mandrake (hda4) and put LILO  in MBR.
 [ note: hda3 is linux swap]
In  Mandrake (root) I type following :

mkdir  /mnt/l
mount /dev/hda2  /mnt/l
vi  /etc/lilo.conf
(edit )
# Slackware
image = /mnt/l/vmlinuz
 root= /dev/hda2
 label = slack
read-only
(save and  quit)
and test lilo :-
# lilo -v -t
now lilo give me following message :-

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
merging with /boot/boot.b
boot other: /dev/hda1, on /dev/hda, loader /boot/chain.b
added dos*
boot image: /mnt/l/vmlinuz
kernel /mnt/l/vmlinuz is too big
-
please help me what I will do ?
why lilo said  /mnt/l/vmlinuz is too big  ?





Re: New to Debian, boot problems

2000-10-07 Thread Willy Lee
Thanks for the additional help, I will try it this weekend!

ta,

=wl
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SUPERHUMAN MONSTERS!



Q: mp3 wav / sound

2000-10-07 Thread Michael Steiner
Hi to all!

I can't play .wav or .mp3 files on my system.
I can play cdroms.
cdparanoia seems to work and encodes cdrom-tracks to .wav files, but
when I try to play them no sound at all (splay, mpg123 ...)

I have a Creative VibraX card installed.

Question:

1. Is the VibraX card the problem ?
2. What HW is needed ?
3. What resources are needed to play mp3 or wav files ?
4. What modules do I need ?

I looked back this list till February, but couldn't find no information.
I'm ready to buy a new soundcard etc. if necessary.
Installed is here potato with kernel 2.2.17prexxx

Please give me some hints where to look/read or your experience.

Best regards
Michael

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Backing up the system

2000-10-07 Thread Willi Dyck
Hi all,

i wanna backup my whole system. which method do you recommand?
should i zip / or should i write an image of /dev/hdax?
i also want to keep all the file/user/group permissions including hidden
files.
what else should i think over? thanx for any help.




Re: Q: mp3 wav / sound

2000-10-07 Thread loki
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 10:36:26AM +0200, Michael Steiner wrote:

 I can't play .wav or .mp3 files on my system.
 I can play cdroms.
 cdparanoia seems to work and encodes cdrom-tracks to .wav files, but
 when I try to play them no sound at all (splay, mpg123 ...)
 
 I have a Creative VibraX card installed.

Most likely you'll have to compile a new kernel with support for
your particular sound card (or rather, the chipset it uses). Do cat
/dev/sndstat to see the current status.

 Question:
[snipped]
 3. What resources are needed to play mp3 or wav files ?

Install the sox package, which will give you sox and the play
wrapper which can play wavs.  mpg123 is a popular (non-free) console
mp3 player, or XMMS for a graphical one (GTK-based).

 4. What modules do I need ?

soundcore.o, sound.o (generic support) plus your particular soundcard.


HTH,


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Re: ODP: Debian chicken (was: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation)

2000-10-07 Thread Rino Mardo
i think i missed the storm.  anyway, i read that article about Debian not
being user-friendly but who says user-friendliness is Debian's topmost
priority?  Randy should have read Debian's social contract first.  if anyone
wants a friendly Debian distro they should try Storm Linux.

my 2cents.



- Original Message -
From: Peter Hugosson-Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: ODP: Debian chicken (was: Article: Debian's Daunting
Installation)


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This is list for debian users.

 Glad to hear it. I've been trying to get Linux installed for about 5
years,
 and the only distribution I have looked at is Debian. Call me a masochist,
but
 I am lured by the idea of an OS that is rock-stable and easy to maintain
and
 update. If only it were easy to install, then Billy boy (not to mention
redhat
 and others) would all be looking for new jobs by now.

 FWIW, I've ordered the Debian 2.2 set of 6 CDs from
http://www.cheeplinux.com
 and have arranged a wife-free week in November for my next attempt. Right
now,
 I am in the preparatory stage of collecting as many hints, and as much
 encouragement as possible. You might think I should be looking at redhat,
but
 that's just your opinion. Most people on this list seem to think that
Debian
 is worth perservering with.

 The purpose of my post was to thank Randy for pointing me at a good
article,
 and to make a serious suggestion about a t-shirt design. We geeks like
cool
 t-shirts, and the fact that the Debian chicken is such a long-lived animal
 suggests to me that he deserves to be immortalized for posterity. If I
could
 draw, I wouldn't be asking for help here.

 --
 Best regards,

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RE: ppp/wvdial help!

2000-10-07 Thread Marc Maute
hi,
I take the /etc/resolv.conf file from my redhat
system and copyed it to the debian.
Now the debian system tried to get a ping or...
Before that it immediately told me: ping: Unknow Host ...
Now it searched and searched but nothing happend.

maybe, the problem is that my provider gave me 
a changing IP.??

Marc

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security update using ftp

2000-10-07 Thread Rino Mardo
Is there a way to get security updates using ftp instead of http via
apt-get?



Re: security update using ftp

2000-10-07 Thread Julian Stoev
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 03:07:43PM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
|Is there a way to get security updates using ftp instead of http via
|apt-get?
|

 man sources.list



Re: Citrix ICA client on Debian 2.2

2000-10-07 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoth Tony Holroyd, 
  Has anyone successfully installed the Citrix ICA client on a Debian 2.2 box.
 
 I run it on such a box at work. It needs the libc5 version of libXaw,
 which can be found in the xlib6 package (which probably depends on
 libc5, but let apt worry about that for you).

On www.citrix.com is a newer version of the ica client which is linked
against glibc, so you do not need the libc5 packages.


Regards/Gruesse, Norbert

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Re: security update using ftp

2000-10-07 Thread Rino Mardo
heh.  just want we need someone from #linux recommending RTFM.

if you read my message right, security updates are done via http in
/etc/apt/sources.list what i'm looking for is if someone has done it using
ftp as i can't.




- Original Message -
From: Julian Stoev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: security update using ftp


 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 03:07:43PM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
 |Is there a way to get security updates using ftp instead of http via
 |apt-get?
 |

  man sources.list


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Re: security update using ftp

2000-10-07 Thread David Z Maze
Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RM heh.  just want we need someone from #linux recommending RTFM.  if
RM you read my message right, security updates are done via http in
RM /etc/apt/sources.list what i'm looking for is if someone has done
RM it using ftp as i can't.

Why can't you?  Have you made the appropriate change to your
sources.list?  IIRC, APT should work just fine with FTP.  (Also IIRC,
APT slightly predates the widespread appearance of HTTP Debian
mirrors...)

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Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal.
-- Abra Mitchell



Re: ps2pdf and LaTeX's seminar style

2000-10-07 Thread Thomas Halahan
Rafael 

Nice summary.  The only thing is there must be an easier way that
editing the PS file.  I will investigate.

Tom

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, Rafael E. Herrera wrote:
 Damn, I had to make a presentation using a laptop and a projector.
 I could not use a PDF file because acroread would not show the 
 document in landscape. From the previous messages the way to convert
 the PS to PDF is given by the next example.
 
 Say the latex file is:
 
 \documentclass[semhelv,landscape,12pt]{seminar}
 \begin{document}
 \begin{slide}
   A darned slide.
 \end{slide}
 \end{document}
 
 $ latex test.tex
 $ dvips -Ppdf -t landscape test.dvi -o test.ps
 
 Edit the postscript with:
 
 Thomas Halahan wrote:
  
   Another person showed me that I can do what I wish by changing the
   PostScript Prolog.  Dvips produces
  
   %%BeginSetup
   %%Feature: *Resolution 1200dpi
   TeXDict begin
@landscape
   %%EndSetup
  
   If I modify this to
  
   %%BeginSetup
   %%Feature: *Resolution 1200dpi
   TeXDict begin
  /PageSize [792 612] /Orientation 0  setpagedevice
   %%EndSetup
 
 After checking http://www.fastlane.nsf.gov/a1/pdfcreat.htm we
 use the cammand:
 
 $ ps2pdf -dMaxSubsetPct=100 -dCompatibilityLevel=1.2 \
   -dSubsetFonts=true -dEmbedAllFonts=true test.ps test.pdf
 
 $ acroread test.pdf
 
 Now it shows right within acroread! I guess I won't be 
 needing Corel Office 2000 or StarOffice now :).
 
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Problems using php4

2000-10-07 Thread Steve Simons
Hi all,

I apt-get installed php4 and apache recently (running potato, by the way).
Apache works fine, but when I try to display a simple php page, Netscape
wants to download it as a file. :-(

Here's what I have as part of /etc/mime.types...

text/html   html htm
application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php
application/x-httpd-php3php3
application/x-httpd-php3-source phps
application/x-httpd-php3-preprocessed   php3p

...I have these in /etc/apache/httpd.conf...

LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
AddType application/x-httpd-php.source .phps

What must I do to get a php page to display properly?






Re: ethereal and display

2000-10-07 Thread Kjetil Ødegaard
* Debian Ghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hey Guys,
 I would like to be able to use ethereal without having
 to start X from root. I've never really understood what 
 tells the xserver who can display, but if anyone could tell
 me what I am doing wrong, much appriciated!
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc ethereal
 Xlib: connection to localhost:0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 
 Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
 
 Thank you kindly!

I always do

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f ethereal

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Re: ISDN question

2000-10-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
  This doesn't say much to me. I've been using ISDN for 5 years, now, and to m
  e it's
  always been just another external modem - albeit a fast one that know when t
  o run at
  64kb/s and when to run at 128kb/s.
  
  I've never seen or used any special ISDN utilities neither under 'doze or OS
  /2, just
  their plain old vanilla diallers for any Hayes compatible modem. So what exa
  ctly is it
  that isdnutils is going to give me? I'll use it if I have to, but I always l
  ike to
  understand the why, so please excuse my asking again.

If you're using an external ISDN modem, you don't need isdnutils or any other
ISDN tools, because your computer has no direct contact with the ISDN line.

Isdnutils is needed if you have a PC card that connects directly to the ISDN
line.

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  he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which
  the Lord hath promised to them that love him.   
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Re: security update using ftp

2000-10-07 Thread Kjetil Ødegaard
* David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 RM heh.  just want we need someone from #linux recommending RTFM.  if
 RM you read my message right, security updates are done via http in
 RM /etc/apt/sources.list what i'm looking for is if someone has done
 RM it using ftp as i can't.
 
 Why can't you?  Have you made the appropriate change to your
 sources.list?  IIRC, APT should work just fine with FTP.  (Also IIRC,
 APT slightly predates the widespread appearance of HTTP Debian
 mirrors...)

The homepage for security updates only lists http URLs; check

http://www.debian.org/security/

-- 
Kjetil Ødegaard, Orakeltjenesten ITEA, NTNU



Re: security update using ftp

2000-10-07 Thread Colin Watson
Rino Mardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way to get security updates using ftp instead of http via
apt-get?

  deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security stable/updates main

(Untested - I'm not running stable here - but should work judging from
the directory structure of security.debian.org.)

-- 
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Re: How to mount another partition as home?

2000-10-07 Thread Colin Watson
Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
/dev/hda8  /home/jsext2defaults,rw,user  0  1

and it left me with a ~ directory where I can not run any binary  -
even if I create it as js.

mount(8) notes that user implies noexec, nosuid, and nodev. You'll need
to add 'exec' to the list of options there. (Also, rw is the default
anyway, and you only need to explicitly mention defaults if there are no
other options.)

However, I don't think you should be mounting that partition as a
user; for a start, if you don't mount it at boot-time you'll have an
empty home directory. You are mounting it at boot-time above (though the
last field should be 2, not 1, when it's not the root directory), so
there's no need for the user option anyway.

System partitions (like /usr/local and /usr/share, which you also
mentioned) should definitely not be mounted as a user. The main use for
that option is probably removable drives like floppies and CD-ROMs.

In summary:

/dev/hda8   /home/jsext2defaults0   2

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Re: How to mount another partition as home?

2000-10-07 Thread Colin Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote:
/dev/hda8  /home/jsext2defaults0   2

Bah - insecure. I meant:

/dev/hda8   /home/jsext2nodev,nosuid0   2

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Tru Type Fonts Question

2000-10-07 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
I know how to set up xfstt for true type fonts, but I
see that Debian 2.2 uses xfs as a default font server.

How do I set up xfs to use my truetype fonts?  This is
what I did:

1)  Installed the fttools package.
2)  Created /usr/share/fonts/truetype
3)  Copied my 1132 fonts to the above directory.
4)  Ran the mkttfdir utility.  Shouldn't there
be a ttmkfdir utility???  Where is it???
5)  Added /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the 
/etc/X11/XF86Config file.
6)  Re-started the xfs daemon.
7)  Re-started X

That is when I got the error:
Fatal server error.
could not open default font 'fixed'

What did I do wrong?  What am I missing?  Where is the
ttmkfdir utility?

I know xfstt works but I would rather use xfs since it
is the default installed server.


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chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
Current O/S: Debian 2.2 GNU/Linux



frustration with debian installation

2000-10-07 Thread Bob Edwards
Greetings from a very frustrated newbie. After numerous attempts, I
finally got the base system and packages installed, but I now have what
seems like the overwhelming task of configuring everything so I can
actually use the new system I saved for months to purchase.


(1) What all do I have to configure if I want to use gnome as my gui ?

(2) Am I correct in my understanding that the x-windows system is the
standard debian gui, and I can choose to use gnome instead?

(3) how do I configure gnome?

(4) I have readLinux system commands by Volkerding and Reichard, and
got some help there, but at the moment I'm extraordinarily frustrated.

(5) I hate windows so bad, that I will never go back.

(6) please guide me through the jungle of configring my new debian OS so
I can use this wonderful computer and debian to accomplish my long-held
dream of establishing a publishing company.

Regards
Bob Edwards
Fayetteville, Arkansas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: frustration with debian installation

2000-10-07 Thread David Z Maze
Bob Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BE (1) What all do I have to configure if I want to use gnome as my gui ?

There are a couple of different things you can do.  One is to install
the GNOME Display Manager (gdm), and select GNOME off of its menu.
Another is to create a $HOME/.xsession file (which is a shell script), 
and add 'exec gnome-session' to it.

In any case, you'd need the core GNOME stuff installed.  One easy way
is to run 'apt-get install task-gnome-desktop' as root.

BE (2) Am I correct in my understanding that the x-windows system is the
BE standard debian gui, and I can choose to use gnome instead?

No.  Essentially, X is a system for causing windows to be drawn on
screens and stuff to be drawn inside them.  It doesn't intrinsically
come with any particular GUI.  This means that even if you're running
a standard GNOME desktop, you can still run other random X
applications (including things that are technically part of KDE).

Generally, you'll run some sort of program as a sort of shell;
traditionally, this has been a window manager, so if you shut down
your window manager, you'll exit your X session as well.
gnome-session performs a similar sort of function; pressing the GNOME
log out button will stop gnome-session and log you out.

BE (3) how do I configure gnome?

Generally via the GNOME Control Center, under the GNOME Settings menu.

BE (4) I have readLinux system commands by Volkerding and Reichard, and
BE got some help there, but at the moment I'm extraordinarily frustrated.

If you have specific questions, this list can probably help to answer
them.  Also, the 'man' command will tell you how a particular command
works.

-- 
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Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal.
-- Abra Mitchell



What does this cron message mean?

2000-10-07 Thread Frederik
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts 
--report
/etc/cron.daily

/etc/cron.daily/exim:
Exim retry database in spool /var/spool/exim
Failed to open database file retry: Invalid argument
run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/exim exited with return code 1

I get this cron message ever since I upgraded exim last week
(unstable). Do I have to be worried? Mail gets delivered correctly, I
think.

BTW, I don't believe I have anacron installed on my system, and I don't
really need it either, since it's up almost always.

Thanks, 
Frederik

-- 

So we follow our wandering paths, and the very darkness acts as our guide and
our doubts serve to reassure us.
- Jean-Pierre de Caussade, eighteenth-century Jesuit priest



Re: frustration with debian installation

2000-10-07 Thread Sean

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 09:55:35AM -0500, Bob Edwards wrote:
 Greetings from a very frustrated newbie. After numerous attempts, I
 finally got the base system and packages installed, but I now have what
 seems like the overwhelming task of configuring everything so I can
 actually use the new system I saved for months to purchase.

What'd you get? (just out of curiosity)

 
 
 (1) What all do I have to configure if I want to use gnome as my gui ?

First of all I would suggest using Helix if you're wanting to use GNOME.
The easy way to do this is to add the following line to your sources.list
file (located at /etc/apt/sources.list)

   deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

After you do that, type apt-get update as root (assuming you're connected
to the internet). Don't worry about the unstable mention up there. 
Helix works very well with Debian 2.2.

Then type apt-get install task-helix-gnome. This will begin a massive 
download of all the stuff you need to run GNOME. After this is done, simply
add the line 
   
   exec gnome-session

to your ~/.xinitrc file and you'll be off to the races.


 
 (2) Am I correct in my understanding that the x-windows system is the
 standard debian gui, and I can choose to use gnome instead?

Well, it really doesn't work that way. First of all I'd warn against going
around calling it X-Windows  some folks get mighty irate, as that is not
a valid name for XFree86. If you refer to it just as X, or XFree86, or the
X Windowing System people will know what you mean, and it might save you some
needless ridicule.

With that out of the way, X is a software application that enables graphical
display output. That's extremely simplified, but that's about all it does. To
make that output useful ... i.e. allow things like bordered windows, desktop
environments, etc ... you need some more software to manage the display output
that X produces. Typically this is where your window manager comes in. Some 
simple window managers include Window Maker, Blackbox, Sawfish, etc. These
different window managers provide different ways of managing the output 
generated by X, or rather they handle the framing and manipulation of raw 
windowed applications.

These days you can go one step further and use something like KDE or GNOME. 
These things are Desktop Environments. The difference betwen a simple window 
manager and  a desktop environment is the former doesn't attempt to create a 
unifiying interface accross all X applications, while the latter does. Using
a desktop environment makes it easier to accomplish things like dragging a link
from Netscape onto your desktop and having this turn into a clickable icon,
etc. Of course you do have Enlightenment which as far as I can tell is more 
than a window manager but less than a desktop environment. Anyway, if you're 
curious you can install and play with whatever graphical environment you want.

This is fairly easy to do. Lets say for instance you wanted to check out
Window Maker ... you would just do apt-get install wmaker to download and 
install the program. Then you would edit your ~/.xinitrc file. Putting a #
in front of the current exec gnome-session line (effectively commenting it
out) and adding the line exec wmaker. Ta Da, when you fire up X you'll be using
Window Maker. If you decide you don't like it, simply remove the # from the 
exec gnome-session line and put in it in front of the exec wmaker line.

If you're wondering what this Helix nonsense is ... Helix is simply an effort
to package up and unify GNOME. Personally I think the improvements that are
coming out of this are very nice.

 
 (3) how do I configure gnome?

Once you get GNOME running (see above), simply open the Gnome Control Center.
You'll find this by clicking on the little Gnome foot, going to settings and
then Gnome Control Center. A window will pop up that will allow you to change
things to your liking.

 
 (4) I have readLinux system commands by Volkerding and Reichard, and
 got some help there, but at the moment I'm extraordinarily frustrated.

And will probably remain so for a while. Linux takes a bit of getting used to,
and certainly requires a significant degree of effort on the part of the user.
But unlike those other operating system environments, when you figure out 
how to do something you've actually _learned_ something, as opposed to figuring
out how to trick the system into doing something close to what you want.

It may taste bad now, but you'll be better off in the long run. Heh ... 
couldn't resist.

 
 (5) I hate windows so bad, that I will never go back.


Why do you hate windows so bad? (just out of curiosity)

 (6) please guide me through the jungle of configring my new debian OS so
 I can use this wonderful computer and debian to accomplish my long-held
 dream of establishing a publishing company.

Well you will certainly want to look into LaTeX ... I don't know much about
it, but from the little I've dabbled 

Instalation of soundcard

2000-10-07 Thread Andreas Fromm
Hi,

I'm trying to get my SoundBlaster AWE 64 (Isa PnP) to work on a new
installed Potato system, but just can't get it. I think I did everything

I read in the Sound-AWE mini-HOWTO and Kernel-source documentation.

My isapnp.conf file look as follows:

(READPORT 0x0273)
(ISOLATE PRESERVE)
(IDENTIFY *)
(VERBOSITY 2)
(CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING

(CONFIGURE CTL00e4/269124680 (LD 0
# ANSI string --Audio--

 (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
 (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1))
 (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5))
 (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220))
 (IO 1 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0330))
 (IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0388))
 (NAME CTL00e4/269124680[0]{Audio   })
 (ACT Y)
))

(CONFIGURE CTL00e4/269124680 (LD 1
# Compatible device id PNPb02f
# ANSI string --Game--
 (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0200))
 (NAME CTL00e4/269124680[1]{Game})
 (ACT Y)
))

(CONFIGURE CTL00e4/269124680 (LD 2
# ANSI string --WaveTable--
 (IO 0 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0620))
 (IO 1 (BASE 0x0A20))
 (IO 2 (BASE 0x0E20))
 (NAME CTL00e4/269124680[2]{WaveTable   })
 (ACT Y)
))

(WAITFORKEY)

and executing
isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf
reports:

Board 1 has Identity da 10 0a 84 48 e4 00 8c 0e:  CTL00e4 Serial No
269124680 [checksum da]
CTL00e4/269124680[0]{Audio   }: Ports 0x220 0x330 0x388;

IRQ5 DMA1 DMA5 --- Enabled OK
CTL00e4/269124680[1]{Game}: Port 0x200; --- Enabled
OK
CTL00e4/269124680[2]{WaveTable   }: Ports 0x620 0xA20 0xE20;

--- Enabled OK


I compiled the Kernel with the following extract of the configuration
save-file:

# Sound
CONFIG_SOUND=m
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m
CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m
CONFIG_SOUND_YM3812=m

# Additional low level sound drivers
CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND=y
CONFIG_AWE32_SYNTH=m

which compiled the modules:
adlib_card.o
sound.o
soundlow.o
opl3.o
sb.o
soundcore.o
uart401.o

I also added the lines

alias midi awe_wave
post-install awe_wave /usr/bin/sfxload /usr/synthfm.sbk
options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330

to the /etc/modules.conf file, but executing:

modprobe -a sound

doesn't  install the drivers. At least they are not reportet executing
cat /dev/sndstat


Any help would be apreciated, and please cc my any answers

Andreas Fromm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

P.D:Sorry for my english ;-)






Re: ps2pdf and LaTeX's seminar style

2000-10-07 Thread Ted Harding

On 07-Oct-00 Thomas Halahan wrote:
 Rafael 
 
 Nice summary.  The only thing is there must be an easier way that
 editing the PS file.  I will investigate.
 
 Tom

I've had the same problem of converting Landscape PS files to PDF
so that they can be viewed right way up in Acrobat Reader.

The only way I've found is to use the 'pstill' program with the '-R'
option:

  pstill -R90 ..

generates a PDF which is rotated clockwise by 90 degrees.

For the 'pstill' program, if you don't know it already, see

  http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html

It is not totally straightforward to get this program set up, but once
you have it running it does a good job.

I don't know of any way to get ps2pdf to rotate the output.

Ted.


E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 284 7749
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Re: Problems using php4

2000-10-07 Thread Andrei Ivanov
I guess try to look through the mime types in Netscape adn see whether
there is any conflict there between several mimes, maybe there is one
there that wants to save it instead of executing it.
Andrei

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Then came Expedition.
This summer
Coming to a street near you..
Ford Exterminator.
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http://arshes.dyndns.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Help needed: Xcdroast, Xdm, Afterstep

2000-10-07 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Xcdroast:
There seems to be a problem in my setup that I can't figure out. My
Cdwriter is the second in the second controller, the reader is Atapi
36-x (first in second controller).
I start it, but it seems unable to read the Cd to be copied sitting in.
Scsi support is present in the kernel image, both cdrs are atapi, (ACER
36-x max and HP7200).

Xdm:
What happened to the color console?, when I start the system the log in
window comes gray.

Afterstep:
When I change the windows manager from icewm to afterstep it just puts
me back to the login window, and doesn't get any afterstep to work.
Afterstep is installed, with status OK.

Thanks for any help.
Antonio.



Re: Instalation of soundcard

2000-10-07 Thread Andrei Ivanov
[snip]
 
 alias midi awe_wave
 post-install awe_wave /usr/bin/sfxload /usr/synthfm.sbk
 options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
 
 to the /etc/modules.conf file, but executing:
 
 modprobe -a sound
 
 doesn't  install the drivers. At least they are not reportet executing
 cat /dev/sndstat

Make sure that modules are getting build and are where they are
supposed to be.

I'd try to install those modules by hand using insmod.
This is what I do on my box:
insmod uart401.o
insmod opl3.o
insmod sb.o io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
insmod v_midi.o
insmod awe_wave.o

Check hte logs, dmesg: if modules arent getting inserted successfully,
there will be something in hte logs.
Check that devices exist in /dev , if not, MAKEDEV audio.
Check that your user can write to those devices (play around as root first
to get them to work).
Andrei
--
First there was Explorer...
Then came Expedition.
This summer
Coming to a street near you..
Ford Exterminator.
--
Andrei Ivanov
http://arshes.dyndns.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
12402354
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Re: Tru Type Fonts Question

2000-10-07 Thread mike
I set up true type font server according to the Debian
mini-HOWTO which adds support for true type with xfstt in
addition to xfs for regular fonts.
With this set up you have two font servers on port
7100 and 7101.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:45:16 -0400, Christopher W. Aiken said:

 I know how to set up xfstt for true type fonts, but I
  see that Debian 2.2 uses xfs as a default font server.
  
  How do I set up xfs to use my truetype fonts?  This is
  what I did:
  
  1)  Installed the fttools package.
  2)  Created /usr/share/fonts/truetype
  3)  Copied my 1132 fonts to the above directory.
  4)  Ran the mkttfdir utility.  Shouldn't there
  be a ttmkfdir utility???  Where is it???
  5)  Added /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the 
  /etc/X11/XF86Config file.
  6)  Re-started the xfs daemon.
  7)  Re-started X
  
  That is when I got the error:
  Fatal server error.
  could not open default font 'fixed'
  
  What did I do wrong?  What am I missing?  Where is the
  ttmkfdir utility?
  
  I know xfstt works but I would rather use xfs since it
  is the default installed server. 

-- 
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wvdial / kppp

2000-10-07 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
Has anybody been able to get connected to WorldShare
using wvdial?  It can be done with kppp but I would 
prefer to use wvdial.

I downloaded kppp from the Freshmeat site.  During the
configure/make process I get the error:

checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt = 1.42 (headers and libraries) \
not found. Please check your installation! 

Any clues which package I have to install to get this up and running?

-- 
---   
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
Current O/S: Debian 2.2 GNU/Linux



Geforce 2MX

2000-10-07 Thread Nils-Erik Svangård
Hi

I'm trying to get a Geforce 2MX card working with unstable.
I cant get X to work, not even fb.
Do I have to install XFree86 4.0.1?

/nisse



Modem port

2000-10-07 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
I generally use xterm -e wvdial  to fire up my 
dialup connection.  I noticed that /dev/ttyS1 has rw
permissions for the dialout group.  A lot of times
when I hit Ctrl-C to stop wvdial the permissions
on /dev/ttyS1 are set to r.  The next time I run
wvdial, it fails because of the missing w permission.

Why is this?  Should I be stopping wvdial in another
manner that a Ctrl-C ?

-- 
---   
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
Current O/S: Debian 2.2 GNU/Linux



EXIM mail problems

2000-10-07 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
My ISP is Telerama.com in Pgh. Pa.  When I set up
exim, I used telerama.com as the smtp.  I also said
to use telerama.com as the domain name after the @
on outgoing mail.  Now when I send email to anyone
at telerama.com it gets sent back because the name
is not found at telerama.com.  What did I do wrong?
How do I fix?

-- 
---   
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
Current O/S: Debian 2.2 GNU/Linux



Building Pine

2000-10-07 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
I'm trying to help my gf set up Pine on a server at her college (since
those silly students actually prefer it over mutt), and we're both
running into the same compilation problem (with Woody on my box and
Potato on the server).

Using the pine4-src and pine4-diffs packages, after running
debian/rules binary the compilation proceeds for a while and then ends
with this:

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pine4/pine4-4.21'
test -f pine/pine.c -a -f debian/rules
test root = `whoami`
rm -rf debian/tmp
install -d debian/tmp/DEBIAN debian/tmp/usr/lib/menu
cd debian/tmp  install -d usr/bin usr/man/man1 usr/doc/pine
cd debian  install -m 755 postinst postrm tmp/DEBIAN
cd debian  install -m 644 menu.pine tmp/usr/lib/menu/pine
install bin/pine debian/tmp/usr/bin
install: cannot stat `bin/pine': No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [binaryPine] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine4/pine4-4.21'
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 2

This error (or at least something very similar to it) occurs on both
computers, in both Potato and Woody, and with both pine4 and pine396.  I
ended up pointing my gf to unofficial binary debs, but I'd really like
to know what we're doing wrong.

Glancing in the bin directory, it seems to have built pico, pilot,
imapd, and mtest binaries fine, but as the error message states, there
is no pine binary.

-- 
Tom
Most of us remain strangers to ourselves, hiding who we are, and ask
other strangers, hiding who they are, to love us.
-Leo Buscaglia



Re: Modem port

2000-10-07 Thread John Hasler
Christopher W. Aiken writes:
 Why is this?  Should I be stopping wvdial in another manner that a
 Ctrl-C ?

Sounds like a bug in wvdial.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin



Some minor mail problems w/ Debian 2.2

2000-10-07 Thread Monte Milanuk
Hello all,

I've recently started using Debian 2.2, and I'm having a few weird mail
issues popping up.  If anyone could provide some assistance, or nudge me
in the direction of some specific spot in the documentation, I'd
appreciate it greatly.

1)  Added the sources for the online repositories to
/etc/apt/sources.list, did the apt-get upgrade thing, and am happily
using Netscape 4.75 -- w/ one exception.  When I enter the information
for the pop/smtp server that I receive/send mail from, I cannot get any
new mail.  When I click on the 'Get Messages' icon, it(Netscape) tells
me that I have no new messages.  Like heck I don't!  At the time I had
something like 200+ messages on my Yahoo! account.  I've set this up in
the past on other systems (Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat), and I'd be
interested on why it doesn't seem to be functional on Debian.

2)  I have exim installed currently.  I tried sendmail, as my previous
setup had been sendmail + install-sendmail (a perl setup script), which
had been pretty painless, and had gotten everything delivered w/ the
right addresses and whatnot, plus setup fetchmail easily.  I tried doing
the same setup on Debian, and it doesn't seem to get along real well w/
the install-sendmail script.  Since I'm not masochistic enought to want
to edit sendmail for my simple home setup, I was looking towards
masqmail, but I need to know what I need to do to get it to accept mails
from fetchmail.  I read thru the docs, but something wasn't working
right, because fetchmail couldn't get a response on port 25.

3)  After setting up fetchmail, and running it, I seem to be getting a
bunch of mails (so far over a dozen) which show up in Netscape as having
no title, being from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (me), and the header is displayed
as part of the message.  As such, the Netscape filters don't move them
to the appropriate folders correctly.  What could be causing this?  

Thanks for your time, and any help is greatly appreciated,

Monte

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apt-get problem

2000-10-07 Thread Dale Morris
I've screwed around with apt-get and dselect so much that whenever I try
to install a package I get the following message:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
yossarian:/home/dlm# apt-get install eterm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package [eterm] has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
of sources.list
E: Package eterm has no installation candidate

Is there any way to remedy this?
Here's how apt-get is reading the sources file:

# apt-get update
Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/main Packages   
Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/main Release
Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Packages
Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Release 
Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Packages
Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Release
Hit http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com unstable/main Packages
Hit http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com unstable/main Release
Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/main Packages
Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/main Release
Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Packages
Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Release
Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Packages
Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Release
Reading Package Lists... Done

Thanks for any help
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Re: Citrix ICA client on Debian 2.2

2000-10-07 Thread A. Wrasman
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 02:22:52PM +0200, Norbert Tretkowski wrote:
 * Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quoth Tony Holroyd, 
   Has anyone successfully installed the Citrix ICA client on a Debian 2.2 
   box.
  
  I run it on such a box at work. It needs the libc5 version of libXaw,
  which can be found in the xlib6 package (which probably depends on
  libc5, but let apt worry about that for you).
 
 On www.citrix.com is a newer version of the ica client which is linked
 against glibc, so you do not need the libc5 packages.
 

And it supports ESD.

 
 Regards/Gruesse, Norbert
 
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Re: How to mount another partition as home?

2000-10-07 Thread Johann Spies
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 11:19:36AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
 Maybe your mount defaults to noexec?  Try mounting it with defaults,rw,exec
 and see if that works.  (The 'user' option just allows non-root users to

Thanks.  That was the problem.  Mounting it with the exec option solved 
the problem.

Johann



Kernel-package error

2000-10-07 Thread Johann Spies
I got the following error at the end of the process:

make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image

---
dpkg --build debian/tmp-image ..
dpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`scsi') doesn't contain any
digits
dpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file
make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 2
-

Any clue on how to correct it?

Johann



Re: Tru Type Fonts Question

2000-10-07 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hello!

X cannot handle the ttf dir although xfs is installed. Instead, you must add
unix/:7100 to your XF86config, because, I think, xfs-xtt (you must install
THIS VERSION, not normal xfs!!!) serves the fonts to X via this tcp port.
And you have to create xfonts.scale etc. etc. etc. in the dir with the fonts
(I don't know these steps exactly any more, see howto) and the ttf-dir has
to be added to the catalog line in the file /etc/X11/xfs/config.

 4)  Ran the mkttfdir utility.  Shouldn't there
 be a ttmkfdir utility???  Where is it???
Don't know about it, but sounds like they are equal or someone as written
the name in a false way in some howto or description you've read!

But, all of this isn't necessary if you just download the xfstt package,
install and use it. It's really easier to set up, I think, and I don't know
any disadvantage of xfstt in comparison to xfs-xtt. I think I'll do this
after I've wasted my time setting up xfs-xtt instead of xfstt some weaks
ago.

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/x11/xfstt_1.1.deb

Kind Regards,

Stephan Hachinger


- Original Message -
From: Christopher W. Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:45 PM
Subject: Tru Type Fonts Question


 I know how to set up xfstt for true type fonts, but I
 see that Debian 2.2 uses xfs as a default font server.

 How do I set up xfs to use my truetype fonts?  This is
 what I did:

 1)  Installed the fttools package.
 2)  Created /usr/share/fonts/truetype
 3)  Copied my 1132 fonts to the above directory.
 4)  Ran the mkttfdir utility.  Shouldn't there
 be a ttmkfdir utility???  Where is it???
 5)  Added /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the
 /etc/X11/XF86Config file.
 6)  Re-started the xfs daemon.
 7)  Re-started X

 That is when I got the error:
 Fatal server error.
 could not open default font 'fixed'

 What did I do wrong?  What am I missing?  Where is the
 ttmkfdir utility?

 I know xfstt works but I would rather use xfs since it
 is the default installed server.


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Re: Citrix ICA client on Debian 2.2

2000-10-07 Thread A.J. Rossini
 AW == A Wrasman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On www.citrix.com is a newer version of the ica client which is
 linked against glibc, so you do not need the libc5 packages.
 

AW And it supports ESD.

and it's scary as heck hearing the Windows default startup
sound/song/warning noise coming out of your workstation, at least the
first time :-).

best,
-tony

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Re: What does this cron message mean?

2000-10-07 Thread kmself
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:34:36PM +0200, Frederik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts 
 --report
 /etc/cron.daily
 
 /etc/cron.daily/exim:
 Exim retry database in spool /var/spool/exim
 Failed to open database file retry: Invalid argument
 run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/exim exited with return code 1
 
 I get this cron message ever since I upgraded exim last week
 (unstable). Do I have to be worried? Mail gets delivered correctly, I
 think.

You may need a glibc/libdb fix.  This broke last week.  Exim was among
the broken apps.

 BTW, I don't believe I have anacron installed on my system, and I don't
 really need it either, since it's up almost always.

Debian's crontab entries are set to look for anacron, if it doesn't
exist, run-parts, which uses cron, is used.  This allows a generic
script to be used on both cron and anacron systems.  Last I used
anacron, it would spawn zombies.

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Re: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)

2000-10-07 Thread Colin Watson
Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6 Sep 2000 Kai Weber wrote:
 has anyone the same experience with (all packages up-to-date) HelixGnome
 and Sawfish: 
 
 The middle mouse button, which brings up sawfish's root menu contained
 under programs the whole Debian menu with apps ... Since some days I
 miss it! There are only some entries: xterm, Emacs, Netscape and others. 

I have the same problem.  The Debian Menus item also
disappeared from the GNOME foot menu on the panel.
Did anyone figure out how to fix this?

Please read /usr/share/doc/sawfish/README.Debian. (No, I don't know why
it was changed - it seems like an unhelpful change to me.)

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xfce/tkgoodstuff

2000-10-07 Thread Marc Maute
hi,
I want to install xfce and tkgoodstuff on my 
debian system. OK so I installed lg-issue11 /45?
But I must say: I dont really know what lg-issuel is.
And now I must ask you what is lg-issuel and
how can I install xfce and tkgoodstuff?

Marc

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galeon on debian

2000-10-07 Thread Marc Maute
hi,
I dowload galeon for Debian and wanted to install it,
but it doesnt work. OK i changed MOZILL_FIVE_HOME
but i didnt worked, too.
So I looked for galeon.deb and found it, but
I dont know how I can install it, 
so please help me!
Marc

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Re: What does this cron message mean?

2000-10-07 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 01:21:22PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:34:36PM +0200, Frederik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts 
  --report
  /etc/cron.daily
  
  /etc/cron.daily/exim:
  Exim retry database in spool /var/spool/exim
  Failed to open database file retry: Invalid argument
  run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/exim exited with return code 1
  
  I get this cron message ever since I upgraded exim last week
  (unstable). Do I have to be worried? Mail gets delivered correctly, I
  think.
 
 You may need a glibc/libdb fix.  This broke last week.  Exim was among
 the broken apps.

How does one make that fix?  I've kept everything dist-upgraded (in
Woody) and I am still receiving the same message as the original poster.

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Re: xfce/tkgoodstuff

2000-10-07 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 10:53:34PM +0200, Marc Maute wrote:
 hi,
 I want to install xfce and tkgoodstuff on my 
 debian system. OK so I installed lg-issue11 /45?
 But I must say: I dont really know what lg-issuel is.
 And now I must ask you what is lg-issuel and
 how can I install xfce and tkgoodstuff?

lg-issue11 is Issue 11 of the Linux Gazette.

apt-get install xfce

to install xfce... as for tkgoodstuff, I have no idea what package
that's in (if it's even packaged)... and I can't find anything helpful
apt-cache search.

Quick question of my own, to the rest of the list... is there any way to
search all packages (including uninstalled, so dpkg -S won't help) for a
specific file?  Outside of messaging that bot on irc.debian.org? :)

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Re: Citrix ICA client on Debian 2.2

2000-10-07 Thread Stan Kaufman
A.J. Rossini wrote:
 
  AW == A Wrasman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On www.citrix.com is a newer version of the ica client which is
  linked against glibc, so you do not need the libc5 packages.
 
 
 AW And it supports ESD.
 
 and it's scary as heck hearing the Windows default startup
 sound/song/warning noise coming out of your workstation, at least the
 first time :-).
 
 best,
 -tony

So, is there a cron job that throws up a simulated blue screen of death
a couple of times a day to complete the faux-Windoze experience too? ;-)

Stan



Re: xfce/tkgoodstuff

2000-10-07 Thread Marc Maute

I think I found both in lg-issue 11 and the other in 45?
I searched with gnome-apt ...
But I dont know how to go on.


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Re: EXIM mail problems

2000-10-07 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 01:15:05PM -0400, Christopher W. Aiken wrote:
 My ISP is Telerama.com in Pgh. Pa.  When I set up
 exim, I used telerama.com as the smtp.  I also said
 to use telerama.com as the domain name after the @
 on outgoing mail.  Now when I send email to anyone
 at telerama.com it gets sent back because the name
 is not found at telerama.com.  What did I do wrong?
 How do I fix?

In /etc/exim.conf, uncomment the qualify_recipient line and set

qualify_recipient = localhost

(or some other name that your system will recognize as referring to iteself)
and remove telerama.com from local_domains.

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Re: xfce/tkgoodstuff

2000-10-07 Thread mike
I run Debian potato with XFce from woody. This is such
a great light weight desktop that i dont use gnome-helix
anymore.
So just point to woody in sources.list and apt-get install
XFce.
Tkgoodstuff is available as an rpm so you can d/l and
run alien to convert to a .deb. Just curious, what you will use
from tkgoodstuff that XFce doesn't have?

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:53:34 +0200 (MEST), Marc Maute said:

 hi,
  I want to install xfce and tkgoodstuff on my 
  debian system. OK so I installed lg-issue11 /45?
  But I must say: I dont really know what lg-issuel is.
  And now I must ask you what is lg-issuel and
  how can I install xfce and tkgoodstuff?
  
  Marc


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aec671x_detect hang

2000-10-07 Thread Latigo



Hi. My debian installation hangs at some point when (afaik) 
trying to detect scsi devices.
The last message i see before it hangs is 'aec671x_detect: 
'.
I have searched usenet and found some references to http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/ 
which contains two links to different rescue floppies for 
machines with scsi devices but both of them are 404 links. :(
http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/ 
and ftp://kalle.csb.ki.se/pub/are 
the links.

Does anybody have any clue whati could do in order to 
succesfully boot and install debian on this machine?
Thanks a lot in advance.


Latigo



Re: What does this cron message mean?

2000-10-07 Thread Shaul Karl
 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 01:21:22PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:34:36PM +0200, Frederik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  wrote:
   Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts 
   --report
   /etc/cron.daily
   
   /etc/cron.daily/exim:
   Exim retry database in spool /var/spool/exim
   Failed to open database file retry: Invalid argument
   run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/exim exited with return code 1
   
   I get this cron message ever since I upgraded exim last week
   (unstable). Do I have to be worried? Mail gets delivered correctly, I
   think.
  
  You may need a glibc/libdb fix.  This broke last week.  Exim was among
  the broken apps.
 
 How does one make that fix?  I've kept everything dist-upgraded (in
 Woody) and I am still receiving the same message as the original poster.
 

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On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 02:51:29PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:

 [14:41:27 /tmp]# exim_tidydb /var/spool/exim retry
 Exim retry database in spool /var/spool/exim
 Failed to open database file retry: Invalid argument

When Ben did a non-maintainer upload of exim recently he switched to using
libdb2 instead of libdb 1.85, and the files aren't compatible. Unfortunately
he didn't notice the problem, and nor did I when I subsequently uploaded an
exim package.

I'll fix this and upload a fixed package.

In the meantime, if you delete the files in /var/spool/exim/db, it will
create new ones using libdb2 which will work, but you'll have to do it again
when you upgrade to a later version where I've gone back to 1.85.

(If it was only those hints databases I'd change to libdb2 permanently and
have the postinst or something delete the existing databases, but it's
possible for users to use db files for other things, which a) I wouldn't
know about unless I parsed the config file, and b) they might not want
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Re: apt-get problem

2000-10-07 Thread Shaul Karl
 I've screwed around with apt-get and dselect so much that whenever I try
 to install a package I get the following message:
 
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 yossarian:/home/dlm# apt-get install eterm
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Package [eterm] has no available version, but exists in the database.
 This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
 never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
 of sources.list
 E: Package eterm has no installation candidate
 
 Is there any way to remedy this?
 Here's how apt-get is reading the sources file:
 
 # apt-get update
 Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/main Packages   
 Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/main Release
 Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Packages
 Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Release 
 Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Packages
 Hit http://pandora.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Release
 Hit http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com unstable/main Packages
 Hit http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com unstable/main Release
 Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/main Packages
 Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/main Release
 Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Packages
 Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/contrib Release
 Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Packages
 Hit http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US/non-free Release
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 
 Thanks for any help


What is the content of /var/lib/dpkg? What is the output of dpkg -L eterm?
Perhaps you should purge it and then install it again?


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Re: xfce/tkgoodstuff

2000-10-07 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 06:47:26PM -0400, mike wrote:
-|  I run Debian potato with XFce from woody. This is such
-|a great light weight desktop that i dont use gnome-helix
-|anymore.
-|  So just point to woody in sources.list and apt-get install
-|XFce.
-|  Tkgoodstuff is available as an rpm so you can d/l and
-|run alien to convert to a .deb. Just curious, what you will use
-|from tkgoodstuff that XFce doesn't have?
-|
-|On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:53:34 +0200 (MEST), Marc Maute said:
-|

Mike 

Where did you get Xfce ?

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Re: EXIM mail problems

2000-10-07 Thread Shaul Karl
 My ISP is Telerama.com in Pgh. Pa.  When I set up
 exim, I used telerama.com as the smtp.  I also said
 to use telerama.com as the domain name after the @
 on outgoing mail.  Now when I send email to anyone
 at telerama.com it gets sent back because the name
 is not found at telerama.com.  What did I do wrong?
 How do I fix?
 


my ISP is bezeqint.net and its mail server is mail.bezeqint.net. Attached my 
/etc/exim.conf and /etc/email-addresses. Although this setup is not perfect it 
works most of the time. Please note that rakefet is not a qualified domain 
name although one might think it is when reading thsese files. rakefet is the 
name that I have given to my machine.

[02:47:38 /tmp]$ cat /etc/exim.conf
# This is the main exim configuration file.
# It was originally generated by `eximconfig', part of the exim package
# distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail system administrator.
# This file originally generated by eximconfig at Wed Sep 20 12:48:40 IDT 2000
# See exim info section for details of the things that can be configured here.

# Please see the manual for a complete list
# of all the runtime configuration options that can be included in a
# configuration file.

# This file is divided into several parts, all but the last of which are
# terminated by a line containing the word end. The parts must appear
# in the correct order, and all must be present (even if some of them are
# in fact empty). Blank lines, and lines starting with # are ignored.

##
#MAIN CONFIGURATION SETTINGS #
##

# Specify the domain you want to be added to all unqualified addresses
# here. Unqualified addresses are accepted only from local callers by
# default. See the receiver_unqualified_{hosts,nets} options if you want
# to permit unqualified addresses from remote sources. If this option is
# not set, the primary_hostname value is used for qualification.

qualify_domain = rakefet

# If you want unqualified recipient addresses to be qualified with a different
# domain to unqualified sender addresses, specify the recipient domain here.
# If this option is not set, the qualify_domain value is used.

# qualify_recipient =

# Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option
# is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the
# qualify_recipient value is used as the only local domain. If you do not want
# to do any local deliveries, uncomment the following line, but do not supply
# any data for it. This sets local_domains to an empty string, which is not
# the same as not mentioning it at all. An empty string specifies that there
# are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the
# setting of qualify_recipient) to be used.

local_domains = localhost:rakefet

# Allow mail addressed to our hostname, or to our IP address.

local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true

# Domains we relay for; that is domains that aren't considered local but we 
# accept mail for them.

#relay_domains = 

# If this is uncommented, we accept and relay mail for all domains we are 
# in the DNS as an MX for.

#relay_domains_include_local_mx = true

# No local deliveries will ever be run under the uids of these users (a colon-
# separated list). An attempt to do so gets changed so that it runs under the
# uid of nobody instead. This is a paranoic safety catch. Note the default
# setting means you cannot deliver mail addressed to root as if it were a
# normal user. This isn't usually a problem, as most sites have an alias for
# root that redirects such mail to a human administrator.

never_users = root

# The setting below causes Exim to do a reverse DNS lookup on all incoming
# IP calls, in order to get the true host name. If you feel this is too
# expensive, you can specify the networks for which a lookup is done, or
# remove the setting entirely.

host_lookup = *

# The setting below would, if uncommented, cause Exim to check the syntax of
# all the headers that are supposed to contain email addresses (To:, From:,
# etc). This reduces the level of bounced bounces considerably.

# headers_check_syntax

# Exim contains support for the Realtime Blocking List (RBL) that is being
# maintained as part of the DNS. See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for
# background. Uncommenting the following line will make Exim reject mail
# from any host whose IP address is blacklisted in the RBL at maps.vix.com.

#rbl_domains = rbl.maps.vix.com
#rbl_reject_recipients = false
#rbl_warn_header = true

# The setting below allows your host to be used as a mail relay only by
# localhost: it locks out the use of your host as a mail relay by any
# other host. See the section of the manual entitled Control of relaying 
# for more info.

host_accept_relay = localhost

# If you want Exim to support the 

Re: xfce/tkgoodstuff

2000-10-07 Thread mike
Sorry about that,  its all lower case 'xfce' in apt-get.
Although dpkg -s is not case sensitive. Any way, if you
install 'xfce' you can still run the gnome task bar and any
gnome apps, but i prefer the XFce panel.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:41:40 -0400, Christopher W. Aiken said:

 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 06:47:26PM -0400, mike wrote:
  -|   I run Debian potato with XFce from woody. This is such
  -|a great light weight desktop that i dont use gnome-helix
  -|anymore.
  -|   So just point to woody in sources.list and apt-get install
  -|XFce.
  -|   Tkgoodstuff is available as an rpm so you can d/l and
  -|run alien to convert to a .deb. Just curious, what you will use
  -|from tkgoodstuff that XFce doesn't have?
  -|
  -|On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:53:34 +0200 (MEST), Marc Maute said:
  -|
  
  Mike 
  
  Where did you get Xfce ?
 

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Re: Installation

2000-10-07 Thread Shaul Karl
Hi. I have recently acquired an old 386 sx computer with an 82 meg HDD. I 
 want to put Debian on it.
A long time ago, I had gone online and asked around for this before, and 
 someone had pointed me to 7 floppies worth of files from the www.debian.org 
 ftp site, and I actually did manage to install an extremely basic 
 instillation of Debian. I would like to do that again, but I do not know 
 which files I need.
Could you please tell me which files I need to download in order to once 
 again install Debian on my comp?
Thank you for your time :)
See ya's


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Re: Software to record console output (sort of...)

2000-10-07 Thread Shaul Karl
script ?

 
 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 Hi gang,
 
 I remember years and year ago, when I first installed debian (bo, I
 think), the install instructions recommended that you run this little
 program that records everything that happens on the console. I think it
 just saves it to an ascii file with escape codes, but if you catted the
 resulting file, it would play back everything on the screen, so you
 could see what you screwed^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hdid.
 
 Someone has asked me to do something and record what I do so that he can
 see how it works, but I can't for the life of me remember what this
 program was called. I've tried searching through apt-cache and apropos
 for record, script, pager, etc., but no joy.
 
 Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Can anyone remember what it was
 called?
 
 cheers,
 
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apt-cdrom add trouble

2000-10-07 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
My apt-cdrom add is not working. I was able to read from cdrom normally
until I installed a custom kernel image 2.2.17 with scsi support to
enable cd recording. After that I run dselect to install wmanager, but
then it couldn't read the cd in hdc, which had been able to so far,
since I made the installation from the 3 binaries (intel). I assume
something got screwed up when the cd drives were changed to scsi (?),
but have no idea how to fix it. What I get is
ide-scsi:hdc:unsupported command in request queue (0)
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 64
isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=16:00,
iso_blknum=16, block=36
E: failed to mount CD-ROM

Have no clue. Please help. Thanks,
Antonio.



Re: galeon on debian

2000-10-07 Thread kmself
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 10:59:20PM +0200, Marc Maute ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 hi,
 I dowload galeon for Debian and wanted to install it,
 but it doesnt work. OK i changed MOZILL_FIVE_HOME
 but i didnt worked, too.
 So I looked for galeon.deb and found it, but
 I dont know how I can install it, 
 so please help me!

Go to the Galeon homepage at http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ and follow
the Debian install instructions under Download.

Basically, add the following lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list file,
adn run apt-get install galeon:

deb ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeon/
deb-src ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeon/

Cheers.

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Re: Backing up the system

2000-10-07 Thread kmself
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 11:30:18AM +0200, Willi Dyck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 i wanna backup my whole system. which method do you recommand?
 should i zip / or should i write an image of /dev/hdax?
 i also want to keep all the file/user/group permissions including hidden
 files.
 what else should i think over? thanx for any help.


Linux Backups mini-FAQ

Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com
Written:  Saturday October  7, 2000
Modified:  Saturday October  7, 2000



Following are my general recommendations for system backups, with a
strong focus toward an individual workstation or small network
with relatively informal practices.  I run Debian GNU/Linux, there will
be some variants of file locations for other Linux distributions or
proprietary Unices.  Larger networks or server farms should probably
look into a more structured system.

This document is divided into discussions of:

  o Hardware
  o Software
  o What to back up
  o How to back it up
  o When to back it up
  o Further reading
  o Sample backup script



Hardware


There are several alternatives for backup hardware.  In roughly
descending order of my preference, they are:

  o SCSI tape
  o CDR-Writable or CDR-Re-writable media
  o DLT and other high-performance tape solutions
  o Magneto-Optical
  o QiC / Travan tape
  o Networked storage
  o Removable storage (120 MB Superfloppy, Zip, Jaz, Floppy)
  o Ancillary storage (Additional onboard HD storage)



SCSI


I purchased an HP SureStore 2000 DAT drive in October of 1997.  It's
been used for semi-regular backups of my home system for the past three
years.  No problems; I can recommend HP Surestore SCSI storage strongly.

In comparing costs of SCSI to other tape drive types, you'll want to
take into account both drive and media costs.  At a count of about ten
media units (tapes), the SCSI became the cheaper option -- ~$9 per 4 GB
tape rather than ~$35 for Travan/QIC cartridges.  SCSI DAT is also a
time-tested and highly dependable technology.  Pricewatch lists current
costs as HP media at $3/unit, Travan 8 GB media run $20-24.  DAT is
solid, dependable, proven technology, and the media are cheap and
reusable.  Just what you're looking for in a backup.  

What's nice about SCSI tape is that in three years of admittedly light
use -- say 1-8 times/month, I've never had a write error.  While B/U's
take some time, they only need to be run once.  My current backup script
hits key system files, announces (via wall) its progress, then rewinds
and verifies the tape, and finally rewinds and ejects it.  Minimal fuss.
I've been backing up more frequently in the past six months or so --
every couple of days if I can help it.

The downside is that tape capacity, relative to today's drive sizes, is
limited.  The system costing me about $400 new, provides ~4GB compressed
storage, which works for me, but you'll have to look at higher capacity
tape drives for your 9-40GB disks out now.  A comparably priced drive
today would have about 10-20 GB capacity, which should suffice.


   Comparative pricing of 4mm SCSI DAT units
   -
Capacity
  Vendorraw/cmpr   Cost Media
  ---
  HP2/4$120$3
  HP4/8$185$6
  HP4/8$185$6
  HP   12/24   $603   $11 *
  HP   20/40   $810   $27 **
  ---
Notes:
  * Other vendor pricing starts at ~$320.
  ** Other vendor pricing lower.
  ---


I'm citing Hewlett Packard largely as they have a good name in quality,
both anecdotally and in direct personal experience for work and private
use.  Sony's 12/24 and 20/40 drives are about half the cost of the
equivalent HP drive.  At the upper end of the range, tape changers start
appearing, with compound capacities into the hundreds of GB.



CDR / CDRW
--

Of the remaining alternatives, CDR/CDRW and QiC/Travan are probably the
most popular in current systems, and might be considered a necessity.
CD-RW drives start at about $130, with good branded drives running
$150-$160.  High-end is a Creative Labs 2x4x32x CD-RW for $189.  For
media, a CD-R 200 pack runs $147 - $261, or about $1.13/GB.

While I don't have specific experience with CDs, my understanding is
that they're sensitive to buffering, and it's often helpful to create an
online image file, then cut to media, requiring additional online
storage.  Media size, at 650 MB, is significantly limited relative to
tape -- it 

Re: Fetchmail problem: long pauses

2000-10-07 Thread kmself
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:44:35AM +0100, Anthony Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 
 In the last few days I have a problem with fetchmail. It has slowed down
 dramatically.
 
 At each ISP mailserver I connect to the following happens:
 
 Fetchmail starts to read the first message and says it is rewriting
 various addresses. It then hang for about 3 minutes before starting to
 collect all the mail. This goes normally but the same thing happens at
 the next ISP.
 
 Using the -vv switch doesn't show any errors.
 
 I think something must be misconfigured but what? I don't remember
 changing anything.

Network related 3-5 minute hangs tend to make me suspect DNS issues.
Anything in your system logs?

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