shell script question

2003-12-04 Thread Han Huynh
I know this isn't a bash/korn shell script news group, but the fact is I can't find one. Since bash/ksh is the default linux shell, I was hoping someone could answer a few pretty simple questions. Is there any way to export a variable for one parent shell to a different parent shell? I know

Anyone used a Lindows Laptop?

2003-12-04 Thread John
Hi I have just started looking for a new laptop courtesy of the logic board on my ibook dying and being hit for a Aust $935 bill for a new one. I have been looking at the Lindows Mobile PC which I could get for Aust $1165 from sub300.com. I have been trying to find some reviews by people who h

Re: Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard

2003-12-04 Thread Rthoreau
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Today 21:11:13 > Hi all, > I'm having trouble with a new Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard I just put >into my Debian machine. (I took out the old card.) > >A bit of searching around indicates that the Santa Cruz uses the cs46xx >chipset, so I selected that kernel module.

Re: APT::Default-Release doesn't seem to affect upgrades

2003-12-04 Thread Ross Boylan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:57:23PM -0700, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:39:09PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: > > We have a winner. Every single package that I checked that apt-get -s > > said was from unstable had the same version in testing and unstable. > > Which entry is fi

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread H. S.
Tom Allison wrote: > I think before you start parroting the same thing 1,000's before you > have griped about I would like to at least present some of my personal > findings in the last 4 months. Not 1000's times, but many times, yes. hee hee Facts: 1) I am griping about Woody installer. 2) Hav

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread H. S.
Thanasis Kinias wrote: > scripsit H. S.: > I'm a bit perplexed here -- are you arguing that the Sarge installer is Haven't seen it. I just started using Debian by downloading Woody. And then dist-upgraded to Sarge. Never seen Sarge installer. If it is out, then I have missed it. > so much in

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Tom: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:32:15PM -0700, Thanasis Kinias wrote: > > > a system (I did the math a while ago) we'd have a small but nonzero > > number of (at least) Greens and Libertarians in the House, even with > > There is 1 independent Senator and 1 independent Congressman (wha

Re: serial modem + wvdial

2003-12-04 Thread Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish
David Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Please don't post in html. > titania:/dev# wvdial speakeasy > ---> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53 > ---> Cannot open /dev/ttyS2: Input/output error > ---> Cannot open /dev/ttyS2: Input/output error > ---> Cannot open /dev/ttyS2: Input/outpu

Re: My machine compromised?

2003-12-04 Thread Brian P.D. Smyth
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 03:03, Vanh Phom wrote: > Hi folk, > After reading on report of servers compromised. Just for curiorsity I > run chkrootkit on my own machine and come up with this result: > > Searching for anomalies in shell history files... nothing found > Checking `asp'... not infected > C

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy

2003-12-04 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-12-05T04:08:54Z, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, the salaries for most elected offices are low by the standards of > the class of people who are usually nominated by the major parties. Sure, but $26,000/year? Basically, the experienced businessman with the know-how to

Re: Color in text console

2003-12-04 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:05:49PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > How come I don't see a dependency of prboom on aalib1? It being able to *use* it if it's there isn't the same thing as *requiring* that it be there in order to function. Although a Suggests might be nice. ^_^ -- Marc Wilson |

Re: ye olde upgrade vs. dist-upgrade

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Marc Wilson: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:57:16PM -0700, Thanasis Kinias wrote: > > I wonder the same thing as Marc. > > You're not wondering the same thing as me... I know perfectly well > what the two targets do. It's Bill Moseley who's doing the wondering. Sorry, brain-finger connect

Re: radeon and X: was X won't start: Resolved

2003-12-04 Thread David Meiser
Mark, One thing I forgot to mention on this was that I am running unstable with XF86 4.3, though it should work with XF86 4.2, as well.  Also, I say use a 2.6 series kernel because the DRI and AGPGART stuff is already in there, no need to build more modules.  Yes, it's possible.  I've done it

Re: ye olde upgrade vs. dist-upgrade

2003-12-04 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:11:30AM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > ? So you automatically assume that when a person reads the man > page he understands what's being said? > That's not the best assumption IMHO. No. I assume that if a person reads the man page, and does not understand it, he will

Re: ye olde upgrade vs. dist-upgrade

2003-12-04 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:57:16PM -0700, Thanasis Kinias wrote: > I wonder the same thing as Marc. You're not wondering the same thing as me... I know perfectly well what the two targets do. It's Bill Moseley who's doing the wondering. > I always do dist-upgrade also. Since I also always use -

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
> That narrows the selection pool to those too rich to need the money, or > those so inexperienced that they'd do an insanely difficult job for > peanuts. Actually, the salaries for most elected offices are low by the standards of the class of people who are usually nominated by the major parties.

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 09:50:35PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > David Palmer. wrote: > > Put all politicians on a wage of $500.00/week, and make it a capital > > offense to take a political bribe, and you would get the ones that want > > to do the job for the right reasons. > > No. You'd get the

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit John Hasler: > David Palmer. wrote: > > Put all politicians on a wage of $500.00/week, and make it a capital > > offense to take a political bribe, and you would get the ones that want > > to do the job for the right reasons. > > No. You'd get the ones that want to do the job for all the

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
David Palmer. wrote: > Put all politicians on a wage of $500.00/week, and make it a capital > offense to take a political bribe, and you would get the ones that want > to do the job for the right reasons. No. You'd get the ones that want to do the job for all the worst possible reasons. Under th

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:07:59PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 at 00:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] penned: > > > > given the regular stream of ridiculous garbage coming from redmond > > about linux, while new holes are found in their os and apps on an > > almost weekly basis,

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Monique Y. Herman: > Friends of mine postulated the idea of having "politician duty" in > much the same was as we have jury duty ... you get a letter one day > telling you it's your turn to serve. Pretty sure this was done in at > least one ancient govt ... think it was Athens. Funny t

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy

2003-12-04 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-12-04T11:13:33Z, "David Palmer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Put all politicians on a wage of $500.00/week, and make it a capital > offense to take a political bribe, and you would get the ones that want to > do the job for the right reasons. Regards, Yeah. That narrows the selection

Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard

2003-12-04 Thread cforelle2
Hi all, I'm having trouble with a new Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard I just put into my Debian machine. (I took out the old card.) A bit of searching around indicates that the Santa Cruz uses the cs46xx chipset, so I selected that kernel module. Doing modprobe cs46xx gives me: cs46xx: Unabl

Re: apt question

2003-12-04 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:10:26 -0600, Kent West wrote: Did you "apt-get update" first? If not, you need to. Thanks. I could swear that wasn't in the man page. enjae[westk]:/home/westk> man apt-get . . . DESCRIPTION apt-get is the command-line tool for handling p

RE: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Pro ject Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Joyce, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: Monique Y. Herman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 5 December 2003 7:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: > Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications) > > > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 17:56 GMT,

Re: radeon and X: was X won't start: Resolved

2003-12-04 Thread David Meiser
Personally, "Give up" isn't in my vocab.  Here's what you do (and what worked for me on my Radeon 8500): 1) download/compile/install a 2.6.0 series kernel, modularizing the Direct Rendering stuff for Radeon, and AGPGART, and whatever your motherboard and processor specific setup is 2) Add agpga

Re: Murdering those mutt-gpg key retrievals

2003-12-04 Thread David
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 08:49:01PM +0100, Florian Ernst wrote: > > You can import keys manually just like > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 8DE4D38E > for Karsten's key. > > If you want to have it done automatically one way is to enable a > keyserver in your .gnupg/pgp.conf and enable > k

Re: serial modem + wvdial

2003-12-04 Thread ben_foley
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 09:23:49PM -0500, David Morse wrote: > [Modem0] > Modem = /dev/ttyS2 > Baud = 115200 > SetVolume = 2 > Dial Command = ATDT > Init1 = ATZ > [Dialer speakeasy] > Phone = XXX > Password = XXX > Username = XXX > Inherits = Modem0 > first off, nobody likes html arou

dhelp_parse: no title found for directory games/arcade

2003-12-04 Thread Roger Chrisman
Hi, When I use apt-get it ends up getting stuck in a loop that prints endlessly the following: dhelp_parse: no title found for directory games/arcade dhelp_parse: no title found for directory games/card dhelp_parse: no title found for directory games/arcade dhelp_

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:57:43PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 23:04 GMT, ScruLoose penned: > > > > They don't have to. They can use Libranet or Xandros or Knoppix if > > they want an "easy" way (on x86 systems). If you choose Debian, you > > should know that an idiot-

worldnet.att.net

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Wright
I use them as my provider.Have a problem to report but don't have that phone number. I can send Email but can't recieve,so an Email responce won't do any good. Either call 1-336-852-5255 or Email my neighbor Harry Sledge "troutferns @aol.com.Thanks

Re: Anfrage f?r einen Linktausch an debian-user@lists.debian.org

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 09:08:40AM -0800, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:00:28AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: Thomas: Fragen Sie bitte auf englisch an diese Liste, oder frage an den debian-user-de Liste Karsten, you realise what you repl

Re: apt question

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:10:26 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: > >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:53:35 -0600, Kent West wrote: >> >>As you recommended I added these lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list: >> >> >> >> # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work >>which I

Re: Color in text console

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Cruncher wrote: I've got aalib installed and games like prboom or quakeforge (nq-sdl) use it by default, which is what I want, and I can alter the text size to get a reasonable resolution. Does anybody know how to get color? The text console will do color (eg. ls -l --color=auto produces a c

serial modem + wvdial

2003-12-04 Thread David Morse
Hi, I have a USRobot. internal serial modem that was working fine under redhat 7.2.  I wiped the box and installed debian, and now wvdial claims the modem smells: titania:/dev# wvdial speakeasy ---> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53 ---> Cannot open /dev/ttyS2: Input/output error --->

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 at 01:06 GMT, Jason A Whittle penned: > I'm sorry that my first post to debian-user is so off-topic, and that > I don't have a key yet. I hope to rectify the latter ASAP. > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 01:34:11PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> In theory, we have a multi-party

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
ben writes: > well, i am hoping for eventual disclosure, but willing to understand > obvious security priorities. Disclosure of _what_? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
Thanasis Kinias writes: > If Foo Corp. wanted to do this, they really wouldn't have anything to > fear from the law... Little maybe, but not nothing. And risking the shareholder's (or even your own) money is one thing. Risking prison is quite another. Their biggest risk would be a whistle-blowe

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread ben_foley
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:59:34PM -0700, Thanasis Kinias wrote: > scripsit Monique Y. Herman: > > > I find this to be unlikely. I mean, look at the risk vs. reward. > > > > Reward: they cause a very temporary disruption to some trusted sources > > and cause some folks to maybe worry about how

Re: apt question

2003-12-04 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:53:35 -0600, Kent West wrote: As you recommended I added these lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list: # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work which I did #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free

RAID question

2003-12-04 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, I have a mainboard (ASUS A7N8X) with onboard SATA controller (SiI 3112A) and am planning to plug in two SATA drives and use RAID 1 (mirroring) on them. Besides telling the controller to use them as a RAID array, what do I have to do on Lin

Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Paul Morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031204 12:32]: > I have all services locked down to localhost; my only connections to > the outside world are mail, news via nntpcached, web via squid... I run > Apache but it too is locked down to localhost. My mail is run through my this ... > ISP's (earthli

Apache memory leak

2003-12-04 Thread Andreas Schwarz
Hello, I'm using Apache from Debian Woody on my server. Now I noticed that Apache is eating up more and more memory, so that I have to restart it every few days. The following graph of the swap usage illustrates the problem: https://andreas-s.net/mrtg/localhost.swap-week.png The big drop around sa

Re: Removal of packages from woody/main

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Mike Beattie: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:09:30PM -0600, Andrew Davidoff wrote: > > Greetings: > > > > As of 21.30GMT today (when a local rsync of debian's archive is run) I > > noticed that quite a few files have been removed from the main section > > of debian's pool. Can anyone she

Re: Removal of packages from woody/main

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Beattie
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:09:30PM -0600, Andrew Davidoff wrote: > Greetings: > > As of 21.30GMT today (when a local rsync of debian's archive is run) I > noticed that quite a few files have been removed from the main section > of debian's pool. Can anyone shed any light as to why this happened

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Isaac To
> "Dave" == Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> So how many daemons and kernel routines need both root access and Dave> input from a user process? Remember that *all* kernel routines are running in kernel-mode of the processor, i.e., having even higher permission than a normal roo

apt question

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:53:35 -0600, Kent West wrote: As you recommended I added these lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list: >> # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work which I did >> #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free >> #deb-src http://non-us.

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:48:58 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:57:55PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 01:50:35PM -0700, Dave wrote: > > > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:20:21 +0100, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > who benefits from the publicit

Re: Maildrop + SA

2003-12-04 Thread Tom Allison
Darik Horn wrote: > So, I would like send spams (witch my SA didn't catch) to e-mail > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my maildrop use sa-learn in this e-mail. > How can I do that in my maildrop??? Be careful about doing this. Things that you forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will appear to come from your ad

[OT] got a new isp

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
After 28 months with Mexican Prodigy switched to Mexican AT&T. It was the worst service ever: almost every day at least one hangup, frequent DSN lookup hangs, frequent nothing-at-alls. But... I should not complain because I paid for only 12 months... which is a symbol of the organization. So I

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 23:35 GMT, Paul Morgan penned: > > You are dead right, of course. I keep forgetting that there are folks > new to Unix, even, installing debian. Which is really great. It's great, but ... My first linux install was done by a friend. Even redhat was hard for me to figure

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Tom Allison
H. S. wrote: Satyajit Das wrote: Dear list, Just today I entire this world and also in Linux world. By "this world" I would assume the newsgroup world and *this* world in general :)) welcome to Linux world! I'm single user. I collect Debian 3.0 beta , total 8 CD's . After struggle 4 days("ds

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread ben_foley
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:04:26PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > almost five years, since i first came across debian. i have no reason > > not to trust them now. > > I like them too but faith like that is just made to be broken. > well, i am hoping for eventual disclosure, but willing to understand obvi

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 22:52 GMT, Bijan Soleymani penned: > > I agree that the installer isn't that difficult to get through but > once you're done you're faced with a text mode login. When you're new > and don't know any command this isn't very useful. I mean there's a > huge step between that an

Re: 2.6 kernel: module cannot be unloaded

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Monique Y. Herman: > Hrm. Okay, well, I don't know what AFS is (though now I'm thinking I > should find out), and I don't use sound at the moment, so I probably > just have to worry about the "couple others" =P AFS is a distributed file system. My uni uses it (among other things) to a

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 22:29 GMT, Bijan Soleymani penned: > "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I don't have a problem with the installer. I'd rather have devs >> working on other stuff than on something that works (for me). > > The installer also works for me, at least most of

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 23:04 GMT, ScruLoose penned: > > > They don't have to. They can use Libranet or Xandros or Knoppix if > they want an "easy" way (on x86 systems). If you choose Debian, you > should know that an idiot-proof installer is _not_ one of its > features. To play devil's advocate,

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit H. S.: > Moreover, if one were to do a poll today out of the number of people > interested in using Debian asking them if Debian's installer needs to > improved upon, I am certain you would be in a minority. [snip] > Not an excuse NOT to improve the installer. [snip] > Thinking Debian in

Re: 2.6 kernel: module cannot be unloaded

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 23:15 GMT, Thanasis Kinias penned: > scripsit Monique Y. Herman: >> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 21:46 GMT, Thanasis Kinias penned: > >> > OK, I recompiled and enabled that... (Aside: Lots of possible >> > gotchas switching to 2.6...) >> >> Please elaborate! > > Well, I didn't

Re: ye olde upgrade vs. dist-upgrade

2003-12-04 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Marc Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:41:27PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: >> Is there a reason to use or not use dist-upgrade on Woody machines >> for security updates? > > Is there a reason to not actually bother reading the man page for > apt-get and learning the difference between th

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Jason A Whittle
I'm sorry that my first post to debian-user is so off-topic, and that I don't have a key yet. I hope to rectify the latter ASAP. On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 01:34:11PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > In theory, we have a multi-party system. In practice, voting for a > "third-party" candidate is a

Re: Creating VCD from AVI

2003-12-04 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:13:46PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > I have some AVI files here, which are riped from my DVDs using acidrip > (a frontend to mencoder). Now I want to write to a CD as a VCD, so that > they don't took space on my hard. > > My googling shows that there are a couple of t

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Monique Y. Herman: > I find this to be unlikely. I mean, look at the risk vs. reward. > > Reward: they cause a very temporary disruption to some trusted sources > and cause some folks to maybe worry about how secure linux might be. > > Risk: getting caught funding black hats against t

Re: 2.6 kernel: module cannot be unloaded

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Roberto Sanchez: > I'm not sure. Do you have discover or kudzu installed (both are > hardware autodetectors that may try loading/unloading modules to > figure out what you have. Just a thought. Nope; neither is installed. This is a fairly new net install with no tasksel stuff, either

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
ben writes: > there's got to be a reason why no calling card was left, i.e., the caller > has a vested interest in not claiming credit, which would tend to suggest > a contract job. No. It merely suggests that they didn't finish the job. The "calling-card" would have been left in the archive had

Removal of packages from woody/main

2003-12-04 Thread Andrew Davidoff
Greetings: As of 21.30GMT today (when a local rsync of debian's archive is run) I noticed that quite a few files have been removed from the main section of debian's pool. Can anyone shed any light as to why this happened, and if they are coming back? Some of the effected files are not in use

Re: Color in text console

2003-12-04 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Thursday 04 December 2003 4:45 pm, Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > Em Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:06:12 +, Cruncher escreveu: > > with aalib they run in black, white and grey. > > Talking out of the top of my head, does aalib has an option > somewhere to enable ANSI output? A

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 at 00:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] penned: > > the question i keep arriving at is who benefits from the publicity > surrounding this? there's got to be a reason why no calling card was > left, i.e., the caller has a vested interest in not claiming credit, > which would tend to sug

Re: My machine compromised?

2003-12-04 Thread Ray of Power Web
don't know if its normal, but vmware3 does something that causes chkrootkit to see 1 hidden process for me. wasn't activly using it at the time, so maybe if you have the vm running it causes more hidden processes. On Thursday 04 December 2003 17:09, Micha Feigin wrote: > First thing, you sent

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread ben_foley
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:42:21PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 17:14 GMT, H. S. penned: > > Oh boy. I can understand that. I went through the same thing myself a > > few weeks ago. But then I was not new to the world of Linux so it > > didn't take me 4 days :) But I ag

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:35:47PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > And I sure as heck wouldn't want to discourage anyone new to Linux by > making them think, "Wow, he thinks this is easy, but it's really hard for > me, I'd better go back to XP". I was a lifelong Windows geek and had a couple years

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:48:58AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > given the regular stream of ridiculous garbage coming from redmond about linux, while new holes are found in their os and apps on an almost weekly basis, this seems like the next stage in the > campaign to buttress the losses

Re: Color in text console

2003-12-04 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:06:12 +, Cruncher escreveu: > with aalib they run in black, white and grey. Talking out of the top of my head, does aalib has an option somewhere to enable ANSI output? ASCII art is per definition black-and-white, but ANSI terminals are what gives you colour.

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:52:00 -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:42:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> You know, people are always saying this (about the installer being >> difficut), but when I set up my first debian installation

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread ben_foley
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:57:55PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 01:50:35PM -0700, Dave wrote: > > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:20:21 +0100, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [...] > > >There is also the point that *somebody* found this bug. Just not the > > >folks we w

Re: Maildrop + SA

2003-12-04 Thread Darik Horn
> So, I would like send spams (witch my SA didn't catch) to e-mail > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my maildrop use sa-learn in this e-mail. > How can I do that in my maildrop??? Be careful about doing this. Things that you forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will appear to come from your address, so you may acc

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread H. S.
Paul Morgan wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:42:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Of course, setting up some stuff (like X) was harder than it is now, but That was exactly where I had the problem, because the "good enough" installer wouldn't tell me anywhere what to do with a wheel mouse, though i

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread H. S.
Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 17:14 GMT, H. S. penned: Oh boy. I can understand that. I went through the same thing myself a few weeks ago. But then I was not new to the world of Linux so it didn't take me 4 days :) But I agree, the installation routine of Debian is hideous. Del

Re: My machine compromised?

2003-12-04 Thread Micha Feigin
First thing, you sent this to me instead of the list which seems like what you wanted considering the last question. On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:38:10PM -0800, Vanh Phom wrote: > On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 02:07, Micha Feigin wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:03:34AM -0800, Vanh Phom wrote: > > > Hi

Re: Galeon troubles

2003-12-04 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:17:28 -0500, Mark Roach escreveu: > try running galeon under strace It gave a *huge* output which I'm in no position to understand, and I'd rather avoid posting here for its size... then end seems interesting, time(NULL) = 1070575025 ti

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Bijan Soleymani
ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:00:18PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > >> ... Having autodetection on ia32 doesn't hurt sparc users (it >> doesn't help them either, but that's not a problem). > > I think you're preaching to the choir on this issue. > Unless I'm

Re: 2.6 kernel: module cannot be unloaded

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Monique Y. Herman: > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 21:46 GMT, Thanasis Kinias penned: > > OK, I recompiled and enabled that... (Aside: Lots of possible > > gotchas switching to 2.6...) > > Please elaborate! Well, I didn't mean to be melodramatic ;) The biggest one for me is that OpenAFS is

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:00:18PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > Thanasis Kinias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > scripsit Bijan Soleymani: > > > > I was under the impression that Knoppix, as ia32-only, was just in a > > different category than Debian, with (including stuff under development) >

Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Kent West
Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 12:38 GMT, Hoyt Bailey penned: - Original Message - From: "Monique Y. Herman" In theory, we have a multi-party system. In practice, voting for a "third-party" candidate is a wasted vote, because everyone "knows" that every vote cast outside

Re: 2.6 kernel: module cannot be unloaded

2003-12-04 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Thanasis Kinias wrote: scripsit Roberto Sanchez: They are unsafe to unload because it is possible that unloading them could cause very serious problems. To unload those, you must have enabled CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD (for Forced Module Unloading): OK, now I'm confused. Why, then, would the k

Re: Installing KDE

2003-12-04 Thread James Hosken
Quoting Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > James Hosken wrote: > > I'm trying top install KDE but all I get are errors. I origianlly > > installed woody then upgraded to testing. > > There is some documentation on tricking unstable with kde into > working > here at this reference. > > http://wi

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:29:02PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Many people, including me, would not recommend debian for a linux > > novice, though there are debian-based distros that some might recommend. > > It would be nice if we could

Re: aliasing internet addresses

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Micha Feigin: > I want to alias internet addresses localy, is it possible? For > example to alias www.site1.org -> www.site2.org such that trying to > access www.site1.org would actually connect to www.site2.org. I > didn't see how to do this with /etc/hosts if it is even possible that >

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Bijan Soleymani
Thanasis Kinias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > scripsit Bijan Soleymani: > >> I'm kind of in the pro-knoppix camp. I think that debian could >> incorporate certain features from knoppix. The experts could always >> disable the hardware detection, etc. But it would be very useful for >> beginners.

Re: only allow password change with SSH

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
(Please post in plain text, not HTML) On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:31:17PM +0100, Robert Cates wrote: >Hi, > >my ISP allows me to use SSH to logon (port 22), but only to change my >account password. > >I am running a Debian Woody server with SSH 3.7.1 (using protocol 2 >only) a

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Paul Morgan: > You know, people are always saying this (about the installer being > difficut), but when I set up my first debian installation (potato), I > didn't have any difficulty at all. Other than Linux from Scratch, the only other distro I've installed is Mandrake. Here's the dif

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Bijan Soleymani
Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:42:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > You know, people are always saying this (about the installer being > difficut), but when I set up my first debian installation (potato), I > didn't have any difficulty at all. > > Of course, se

Re: 2.6 kernel: module cannot be unloaded

2003-12-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 21:46 GMT, Thanasis Kinias penned: > scripsit Roberto Sanchez: > >> Module unloading *must* be specifically enabled in 2.6 kernels. >> Otherwise, you can only load. > > OK, I recompiled and enabled that... (Aside: Lots of possible > gotchas switching to 2.6...) Please e

Re: crontab

2003-12-04 Thread Bojan Baros
> * Alf Werder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031204 11:16]: >> On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 19:17, Michael Martinell wrote: >> > I am definitely doing something wrong here. I want to schedule a >> job >> > to run once at 12:00noon. I set it up in cron. It waits until >> > 12:00noon, runs, and then runs every mi

Re: aliasing internet addresses

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:44:01PM -0800, Tom wrote: > want to the internal server's name to point to the pubic server yeah pubic server that's what I meant to say :-) I got the Flumist, the pharmacist squirted live virus up my nose, I'm out of it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: aliasing internet addresses

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:07:22AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > > > >I want to alias internet addresses localy, is it possible? > > > >For example to alias www.site1.org -> www.site2.org such that trying to > > > >access www.site1.org would actually connect to www.site2.org. > > > >I didn't see how

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Bijan Soleymani: > I'm kind of in the pro-knoppix camp. I think that debian could > incorporate certain features from knoppix. The experts could always > disable the hardware detection, etc. But it would be very useful for > beginners. I was under the impression that Knoppix, as ia32-on

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:42:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 at 17:14 GMT, H. S. penned: >> Oh boy. I can understand that. I went through the same thing myself a >> few weeks ago. But then I was not new to the world of Linux so it >> didn't take me 4 days :) But I agree, the

Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "csj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 22:40 Subject: Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises > On 3. December 2003 at 5:52PM -0800, > Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * Monique Y. Her

Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Bijan Soleymani
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't have a problem with the installer. I'd rather have devs working > on other stuff than on something that works (for me). The installer also works for me, at least most of the time. But it would be nice if relative newbies could install Deb

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