RE: Problèmes avec une vieille carte Nvidia 6100 GO sur un portable

2008-08-11 Thread DUFRESNE, Matthias (STERIA)

Salut,

Les cartes à deux sorties sont vues comme deux cartes différentes, il faut 
essayer les deux sorties, si ça se trouve ton problème vient de là.
Si tu ne veux pas essayer les deux sorties réfère toi au README nvidia qui est 
très complet pour savoir comment configurer X pour les deux cartes, et donc 
tester les deux configs pour voir si tu n'as pas interverti les confs.

Le plus simple restant de brancher un écran...

Sinon j'ai aussi quelques soucis avec mon portable et un carte go, une 4200 je 
crois, il lui faut impérativement de vieux drivers, tu pourrais essayer de voir 
aussi de ce coté là...

A+


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Subject: Re: Problèmes avec une vieille carte Nvidia 6100 GO sur un portable

Le Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:01:22 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François
TOURDE) a écrit :

 Tu as branché un écran externe, pour voir si c'est pas sur lui que
 s'affiche tout?

C'est pas ça. D'ailleurs, la prise ne semble pas activée sous Linux.

 Tu peux aussi jouer avec la touche Fn+F7 (par exemple) qui switche les
 écrans (interne, externe, les deux...) ?

Vu dans le manuel, c'est la touche Fn+F2 sur mon portable, mais elle ne
fait rien sous Linux.
 
 Et tu es en mode Xinérama/Autre ?

Je suis en mode neuneu, plutôt ! Ne sachant pas ce que ça veut dire, et
n'ayant rien fait de spécial par rapport à ce que je fais sur ma distrib
LinuxFromScratch sur mon fixe, je suppose que non.
 
 Une fois ça résolu, tu auras sûrement des problèmes avec la mise en
 veille :p

Tu sais, je n'utilise pas mon portable pour dormir devant !
 
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Re: update-notifier pour la ligne de commande

2008-08-11 Thread Hugues Larrive


Grégory BULOT a écrit :

bonjour,

existe-t-il un update-notifier pour la ligne de commande ?

apticron : cron-script to mail impending apt updates
apticron is a simple script to mail about impending apt updates such as
security updates. If you need to schedule more complex APT tasks we 
recommend

you use the (more complex) cron-apt tool.


mon idée est de recevoir un mail  de mon serveur lorsqu'il y a 
uniquement des maj disponible (un aptitude upgrade est trop bavard)
je m'oriente donc vers cron-apt, mais comme j'ai pas de maj en attente 
je sais pas si cela fonctionne 
- je ne veux pas de lancement de maj, juste la liste des maj dispo par 
mail, lorsqu'il y en a (je veux pas de mail me disant 'pas de maj 
dispos')




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Re: update-notifier pour la ligne de commande

2008-08-11 Thread Jacques L'helgoualc'h
Strange Fruit a écrit, lundi 11 août 2008, à 00:46 :
 Le dimanche 10 août 2008 19:23, Strange Fruit a écrit :
  echo Il suffit de taper la commande
  echo maj
  echo dans un terminal pour mettre le système à jour.
 Je précise pour ceux qui se demanderait quoi : sur mes machines il y a dans 
 le 
 bash des utilisateurs autorisés la ligne
 alias maj='sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade ; sudo aptitude clean'

Je dirais plutôt

alias maj='sudo sh -c aptitude update  aptitude upgrade  aptitude 
autoclean'
(ou un petit fichier maj_deb.sh pour préciser l'environnement et autres 
options).
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Re: [Mutt] transferer le contenu d'une boite mail vers une autre boite ?

2008-08-11 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:24:32PM +0200, Thomas Harding wrote:
 J'aimerais y transférer le contenu de mes boîtes mail locales
 (n boîtes au format mbox dans ~/Mail, et n est assez grand...).

cp, ftp, ...  Tout ça ne sont que des fichiers normaux.

Y.

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Re: [Mutt] transferer le contenu d'une boite mail vers une autre boite ?

2008-08-11 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:17:11AM +0200, Yves Rutschle wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:24:32PM +0200, Thomas Harding wrote:
  J'aimerais y transférer le contenu de mes boîtes mail locales
  (n boîtes au format mbox dans ~/Mail, et n est assez grand...).
 
 cp, ftp, ...  Tout ça ne sont que des fichiers normaux.

Pas avec un Cyrus en face, qui utilise un format différent du 
mbox/Maildir, avec des index et caches spécifiques.

Pour la migration de mbox vers Cyrus, je verrais bien l'utilisation de 
mailutil, disponible dans le paquet uw-mailutils avec une commande de 
la forme:

$ cd 
$ mailutil transfer -v -m append \
'Mail/*' \
'{adresse-du-serveur-imap/user=tonutilisateur}'


Deux petits bémols : à moins que ton Cyrus ne soit patché pour, tu 
perdras les dates de réception des messages, et si les messages 
contiennent des bizarerries, Cyrus refusera leur intégration, et la 
commande ci-dessus s'arrêtera net.

Si tu veux te simplifier la vie, mb2md (dans le paquet du même nom) te 
permettra de transférer tes messages au format Maildir, et le 
serveur IMAP dovecot te les liras sans aucun pb.

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Re : [testing] plus de montage auto dans Gnome

2008-08-11 Thread pingouin osmolateur
Un tout début de recherche de soluce, les logs ?

Quelle appli  te fais le montage automatique ?

Est-ce que tu as des logs quelques part genre /var/log/messages ? 

A+



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Objet : Re: [testing] plus de montage auto dans Gnome

Le Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:50:48 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

 Le Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:36:12 +0200
 Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 
  Bonjour,
  
  Depuis 3/4 jours je n'ai plus de montage auto des périph (clé usb,
  appareil photo, etc.) dans Gnome. Il m'affiche bien une entrée dans
  nautilus mais il ne la monte pas alors que j'ai pourtant tout ce
  qu'il faut de sélectionner dans Périph et média amovibles. Une
  idée de la cause?
  
 
 Même pas un tout petit d'idée ? ;)
^
début

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Re: update-notifier pour la ligne de commande

2008-08-11 Thread Zoser BIZIKI

Grégory BULOT a écrit :

bonjour,

existe-t-il un update-notifier pour la ligne de commande ?

mon idée est de recevoir un mail  de mon serveur lorsqu'il y a 
uniquement des maj disponible (un aptitude upgrade est trop bavard)
il existe un  *apticron* qui envoie des mails lorsque de nouveaux 
paquets sont disponibles sur les machines sur lesquels il est installé

cf http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/491


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Question sendmail un peu urgente

2008-08-11 Thread Tahar
Bonjour à tous,

Je voudrais savoir est-il possible de forcer l'envoi le vidage d'une file 
d'attente avec sendmail -qv mais en spécifiant l'adresse source. Je voudrais 
forcer l'envoi de tous les mails que j'ai en attente et qui proviennent de la 
source [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Je sais le faire pour la destination avec la commande sendmail [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] -v mais est-il possible de faire la même chose pour une adresse 
suorce ?

merci pour votre aide


Re: update-notifier pour la ligne de commande

2008-08-11 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le dimanche 10 août 2008, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit...


 cron-apt possède une variable MAILON, qu'on peut mettre à upgrade. Je
 suppose (je viens de l'essayer, je verrais demain) qu'un mail ne sera
 pas envoyé si il n'y a pas de mise à jour.

Je confirme. MAILON=upgrade n'envoie pas de mail si il n'y a pas de mise
à jour disponible.

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Re: [Mutt] transferer le contenu d'une boite mail vers une autre boite ?

2008-08-11 Thread Thomas Harding
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:50:24AM +0200, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
   J'aimerais y transférer le contenu de mes boîtes mail locales
   (n boîtes au format mbox dans ~/Mail, et n est assez grand...).

 Pas avec un Cyrus en face, qui utilise un format différent du 
 mbox/Maildir, avec des index et caches spécifiques.
 
 Pour la migration de mbox vers Cyrus, je verrais bien l'utilisation de 
 mailutil, disponible dans le paquet uw-mailutils avec une commande de 
 la forme:
 
 $ cd 
 $ mailutil transfer -v -m append \
   'Mail/*' \
   '{adresse-du-serveur-imap/user=tonutilisateur}'
 
 
 Deux petits bémols : à moins que ton Cyrus ne soit patché pour, tu 
 perdras les dates de réception des messages, et si les messages 
 contiennent des bizarerries, Cyrus refusera leur intégration, et la 
 commande ci-dessus s'arrêtera net.

Merci.

Pour les dates de réception, elles sont internes au message et il semble
bien qu'il n'y ait pas eu modification, après analyse complète des
en-têtes.

Mutt prend en compte les nouveaux « dossiers » sans problèmes. En
revanche, Icedove ignore royalement tout ce qu'il n'a pas créé lui-même,
idem après destruction puis re-création du compte.

Si on fait exception du comportement bizarre d'Icedove,
le transfert c'est bien passé, modulo 2/3 bricolages:

1) désactiver imaps dans cyrus.conf et le tls dans imapd.conf
   Ça, c'est parce que j'ai un certificat auto-signé que mailutil
   rejette catégoriquement. S'il avait été écrit en Perl ou Python,
   j'aurais pu y faire quelque chose... mais les ELF sont intouchables
   :)

2) J'avais la chance de tout laisser en bord** dans le répertoire ~/Mail,
ce qui m'a permis de changer les noms de fichier comprenant des '.'
(le point est le séparateur par défaut des boîtes Cyrus) en une fois.

mkdir tempmail
cp -R ~/Mail/ tempmail/INBOX
cd !$
for i in `find . -name '*\.*'` ; do mv $i $(echo $i | sed -e \
's/^..//;s/\./_/g') ; done
cd ..
mailutil transfer -v -m append 'INBOX/*' '{smtp/user=tom}'


Il a fallu quand-même quelques essais pour comprendre et passer ces
étapes.

 Si tu veux te simplifier la vie, mb2md (dans le paquet du même nom) te 
 permettra de transférer tes messages au format Maildir, et le 
 serveur IMAP dovecot te les liras sans aucun pb.

À vrai dire, j'ai essayé divers serveurs IMAP dont je m'attendais qu'ils
tournent « sorti de la boîte » -- je ne sais plus si dovecot faisait
partie du lot, et je suis rapidement retourné vers mes premières amours.
Ce n'est pas pour le peu d'administration que demande cyrus (qui lui est
bien documenté) que je vais me casser là tête sur autre chose ;).




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Re: [Mutt] transferer le contenu d'une boite mail vers une autre boite ?

2008-08-11 Thread Thomas Harding
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 08:12:25PM +0200, Thomas Harding wrote:

 Mutt prend en compte les nouveaux « dossiers » sans problèmes. En
 revanche, Icedove ignore royalement tout ce qu'il n'a pas créé lui-même,
 idem après destruction puis re-création du compte.
J'oubliais : 
dans ~/.muttrc, sélectionner les lignes save-hook, puis

','s/\~\/Mail\//imaps:\/\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

(à adapter)

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Re: [Mutt] transferer le contenu d'une boite mail vers une autre boite ?

2008-08-11 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 08:12:25PM +0200, Thomas Harding wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:50:24AM +0200, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
  Deux petits bémols : à moins que ton Cyrus ne soit patché pour, tu 
  perdras les dates de réception des messages, et si les messages 
  contiennent des bizarerries, Cyrus refusera leur intégration, et la 
  commande ci-dessus s'arrêtera net.
 
 Pour les dates de réception, elles sont internes au message et il semble
 bien qu'il n'y ait pas eu modification, après analyse complète des
 en-têtes.

Ce n'est pas exactement ça. Cyrus stocke la date de réception dans ses 
bases internes et pas dans les en-têtes, *mais* se sert de la date de 
création du fichier stockant le mail lors d'une reconstruction de la 
boite (commande reconstruct). Il est donc largement préférable que Cyrus 
enregistre cette date au moment de la copie, cf. le patch suivant:
http://cyrus.brong.fastmail.fm/#cyrus-receivedtime-2.3.8.diff

 
 Mutt prend en compte les nouveaux « dossiers » sans problèmes. En
 revanche, Icedove ignore royalement tout ce qu'il n'a pas créé lui-même,
 idem après destruction puis re-création du compte.

Je suppose qu'il te faut souscrire aux boites IMAP (subscribe), un peu 
comme pour des newsgroups.


 1) désactiver imaps dans cyrus.conf et le tls dans imapd.conf
Ça, c'est parce que j'ai un certificat auto-signé que mailutil
rejette catégoriquement. S'il avait été écrit en Perl ou Python,
j'aurais pu y faire quelque chose... mais les ELF sont intouchables

Il y a une option pour ça, j'ai oublié de le préciser 
désolé. novalidate-cert, ce qui donne: 

mailutil transfer -v -m append 'INBOX/*' '{smtp/novalidate-cert/user=tom}'


 Ce n'est pas pour le peu d'administration que demande cyrus (qui lui est
 bien documenté) que je vais me casser là tête sur autre chose ;).

Bonne approche :-). Il est vrai que lorsque Cyrus est configuré et 
tourne correctement, on n'y touche jamais. 

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Re: [Mutt] transferer le contenu d'une boite mail vers une autre boite ?

2008-08-11 Thread Thomas Harding
Thomas Harding wrote:
 Mutt prend en compte les nouveaux « dossiers » sans problèmes. En
 revanche, Icedove ignore royalement tout ce qu'il n'a pas créé lui-même,
 idem après destruction puis re-création du compte.
   
Icedove : clic droit sur le compte, subscribe... cocher les 199 cases
dans la boîte de dialogue.

Du coup, je confirme que les dates de réception ne sont pas modifiées.

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Re: update-notifier pour la ligne de commande

2008-08-11 Thread Geoffroy Youri B.
Hugues Larrive a écrit :
 
 Grégory BULOT a écrit :
 bonjour,

 existe-t-il un update-notifier pour la ligne de commande ?
 apticron : cron-script to mail impending apt updates
 apticron is a simple script to mail about impending apt updates such as
 security updates. If you need to schedule more complex APT tasks we
 recommend
 you use the (more complex) cron-apt tool.

Je confirme, apticron fait exactement ce que tu cherches Grégory.
Je l'utilise pour le même besoin que toi et j'en suis entièrement
satisfait. Simple et suffisant pour de simple notification comme indiqué
dans la description.

Youri

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Re: Re : [testing] plus de montage auto dans Gnome

2008-08-11 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:20:25 + (GMT)
pingouin osmolateur [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

 Un tout début de recherche de soluce, les logs ?

Dans syslog et dmesg j'ai bien la détection de la clé usb mais après je ne sais 
pas si il devrait y avoir autre chose...

 
 Quelle appli  te fais le montage automatique ?

A priori gnome-volume-manager?

 
 Est-ce que tu as des logs quelques part genre /var/log/messages ? 
 
 A+
 
 
 
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 Objet : Re: [testing] plus de montage auto dans Gnome
 
 Le Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:50:48 +0200
 Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 
  Le Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:36:12 +0200
  Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
  
   Bonjour,
   
   Depuis 3/4 jours je n'ai plus de montage auto des périph (clé usb,
   appareil photo, etc.) dans Gnome. Il m'affiche bien une entrée
   dans nautilus mais il ne la monte pas alors que j'ai pourtant
   tout ce qu'il faut de sélectionner dans Périph et média
   amovibles. Une idée de la cause?
   
  
  Même pas un tout petit d'idée ? ;)
 ^
 début
 
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Re: Re : [testing] plus de montage auto dans Gnome

2008-08-11 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Très bizarre, après enlevé l'option --sm-disable de gnome-volume-manager dans 
le gestionnaire de session et redémarré ma session ça c'est mis à fonctionner. 
J'ai remis l'option --sm-disable et ça continue à fonctionner... A quoi 
correspond cette option?

Gaëtan

Le Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:44:20 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

 Le Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:20:25 + (GMT)
 pingouin osmolateur [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 
  Un tout début de recherche de soluce, les logs ?
 
 Dans syslog et dmesg j'ai bien la détection de la clé usb mais après
 je ne sais pas si il devrait y avoir autre chose...
 
  
  Quelle appli  te fais le montage automatique ?
 
 A priori gnome-volume-manager?
 
  
  Est-ce que tu as des logs quelques part genre /var/log/messages ? 
  
  A+
  
  
  
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  Objet : Re: [testing] plus de montage auto dans Gnome
  
  Le Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:50:48 +0200
  Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
  
   Le Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:36:12 +0200
   Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
   
Bonjour,

Depuis 3/4 jours je n'ai plus de montage auto des périph (clé
usb, appareil photo, etc.) dans Gnome. Il m'affiche bien une
entrée dans nautilus mais il ne la monte pas alors que j'ai
pourtant tout ce qu'il faut de sélectionner dans Périph et
média amovibles. Une idée de la cause?

   
   Même pas un tout petit d'idée ? ;)
  ^
  début
  
  Gaëtan
  
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Re: [Mutt] transferer le contenu d'une boite mail vers une autre boite ?

2008-08-11 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 09:06:34PM +0200, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
  Ce n'est pas pour le peu d'administration que demande cyrus (qui lui est
  bien documenté) que je vais me casser là tête sur autre chose ;).
 
 Bonne approche :-). Il est vrai que lorsque Cyrus est configuré et 
 tourne correctement, on n'y touche jamais. 

Ok, ça répond à ma prochain question qui allait être:
pourquoi ne pas plutôt utiliser courrier-imap? :-)

FWIW courrier-imap c'est pareil, c'est trivial à configurer
et une fois que c'est fait, on l'oublie à jamais (et il gère
bien les Maildir)

Y.

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Re: Clientes Ligeros

2008-08-11 Thread Antonio

Raydel Hernández Martínez escribió:

 Hola lista, necesito encontrar documentación sobre la implementación de
una red con clientes ligeros sobre debian, algún manual, web, en fin,
todo relacionado a este tema.

Desde ya, gracias.

Saludos.


  

LTSP un clásico, usado desde hace mucho y dicen que va muy bien.
Thinstation fácil de usar, sobre todo si tu servidor es un Terminal 
Server. Yo lo he usado y el rendimiento es bueno.
Tcos muy vivo y con mucho futuro, sin duda creo que la mejor alternativa 
actual.

Pxe creo que las últimas versiones no son libres.


Creo que todos tienen listas de correo, wikis y demás. tcos en espan~ol 
y creo que LTSP también.


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script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread Luis Rondon Paz
amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de internet un mirror
de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un proxy http


saludos y gracias de antemano





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Re: script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread Abraham Pérez
El 11 de agosto de 2008 14:03, Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED]escribió:

 amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de internet un mirror
 de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un proxy http


Y yo necesito ser rico antes de los 30... una cosa es pedir ayuda, y otra
diferente es pedir el trabajo hecho. Deberías empezar por valorar en qué
lenguaje quieres hacer ese script.




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Re: script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread boube
2008/8/11 Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de internet un mirror
 de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un proxy http


 saludos y gracias de antemano





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apt-get install debmirror
man debmirror

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Re: script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread Alfredo Finol

Abraham Pérez wrote:



El 11 de agosto de 2008 14:03, Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:


amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de internet un
mirror
de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un proxy http


Y yo necesito ser rico antes de los 30... una cosa es pedir ayuda, y 
otra diferente es pedir el trabajo hecho. Deberías empezar por valorar 
en qué lenguaje quieres hacer ese script.

Me parece que no quieres trabajar mucho, busca bien y encontraras
 




saludos y gracias de antemano





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Re: script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread Abraham Pérez
2008/8/11 Alfredo Finol [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Abraham Pérez wrote:



 El 11 de agosto de 2008 14:03, Luis Rondon Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de internet un
mirror
de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un proxy http


 Y yo necesito ser rico antes de los 30... una cosa es pedir ayuda, y otra
 diferente es pedir el trabajo hecho. Deberías empezar por valorar en qué
 lenguaje quieres hacer ese script.

 Me parece que no quieres trabajar mucho, busca bien y encontraras


Entiendo que eso iba por el mail original del hilo no? xD






saludos y gracias de antemano





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Re: script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread Luis Rondon Paz
familia muchas gracias de todas formas ya un amigo me facilitó el script

aqui hago copia de el que desee hacerse de el tambien
pues que mas da que compartir el conocimiento a quien mas lo necesite

--

#!/bin/sh

# Mirror host
FROM=ftp.debian.org

# Archive location
TO=

# -

LOGDIR=/var/log/mirror
LOGFILE=debian.log

# Main archive
debmirror \
/home/debian \
--passive \
--progress \
--verbose \
--host=$FROM \
--root=debian \
--dist=etch \
--section=main,contrib,non-free \
--arch=i386,amd64 \
--timeout=1600  \
--method=http \
--nosource \
--cleanup \
--ignore-small-errors \
--ignore=tools/* \
--ignore=doc/* \
--ignore=ls-lR* \
--ignore=README* \
--pdiff=none \
--ignore-release-gpg \
 --proxy=http://ip:port/ \

$TO $LOGDIR/$LOGFILE 21

[ $? -eq 0 ]  rsync -lptgoD --delete -v -r rsync://$FROM/debian/tools/
$TO/tools/ $LOGDIR/$LOGFILE 21
[ $? -eq 0 ]  rsync -lptgoD --delete -v -r rsync://$FROM/debian/doc/
$TO/doc/ $LOGDIR/$LOGFILE 21
[ $? -eq 0 ]  rsync -lptgoD --delete -vrsync://$FROM/debian/README*
$TO $LOGDIR/$LOGFILE 21

(cd $LOGDIR; savelog $LOGFILE)


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saludos y buena suerte!!









 El 11 de agosto de 2008 14:03, Luis Rondon Paz
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 amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de internet un mirror
 de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un proxy http


 Y yo necesito ser rico antes de los 30... una cosa es pedir ayuda, y otra
 diferente es pedir el trabajo hecho. Deberías empezar por valorar en qué
 lenguaje quieres hacer ese script.




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Re: script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread Alfredo Finol

Abraham Pérez wrote:



2008/8/11 Alfredo Finol [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Abraham Pérez wrote:



El 11 de agosto de 2008 14:03, Luis Rondon Paz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:


   amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de
internet un
   mirror
   de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un
proxy http


Y yo necesito ser rico antes de los 30... una cosa es pedir
ayuda, y otra diferente es pedir el trabajo hecho. Deberías
empezar por valorar en qué lenguaje quieres hacer ese script.

Me parece que no quieres trabajar mucho, busca bien y encontraras


Entiendo que eso iba por el mail original del hilo no? xD
Si, claro. Pero de verdad, si buscas bien en Internet, te aseguro que 
habrá algún script para hacer un mirror o descargar un mirror de la 
distribución que quieras (sea etch, lenny o sid) y de la plataforma que 
quieras (sea i386, x64, SPARC, o cualquier otro)
 



 



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Re: Como se une las partes de un fichero partido con Winrar en Debian

2008-08-11 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)


Jonay Domingo Ruiz escribió:

Maximiliano Marin Bustos escribió:



On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:09 PM, José Manuel (EB8CXW) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Me podéis indicar que paquete, programa,  me uniría  un fichero (en
este caso comprimido), que esta partido en trozos con WinRar,
 gracias de antemano.

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Si vas a escribir.. piensa en esto:
no digas nada que no sea mas precioso que el silencio!!!


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Nada mas escribes unrar e archivo.part1.rar y solo junta las partes :D

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Si pones unrar a secas en una consola te aparecen todas las opciones 
del programa. Así los descomprimes en una carpeta a tu elección:


$unrar x archivo unrar donde lo quieres descomprimir

$unrar x losInmortales.part1.rar /home/user/peliculas


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Re: script debmirror

2008-08-11 Thread xve
El Monday 11 August 2008, Luis Rondon Paz escribió:
 amigos necesito un script que me permita descargar de internet un mirror
 de debian con la distribucion etch y lenny  a traves de un proxy http


 saludos y gracias de antemano

Yo utilizo esta instruccion por si te sirve...

aptitude install debmirror
...
debmirror -p -v -h ftp.fr.debian.org -r debian -e http -d 
lenny,sid --nosource -s 
main,contrib,non-free --arch=i386 --ignore-release-gpg 
/home/400/mirrorDists/debian

Utilizo el repositorio de francia porque el de españa es pesimo en velocidad.

Espero que te sirva
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'handle' de fichero NFS en desuso

2008-08-11 Thread xve
Hola a todos,

En un mirror de Debian, me he encontrado con unos fichero que no puedo borrar, 
ya que al intentar eliminarlos o leerlos, me da el error:
`handle' de fichero NFS en desuso

Si hago un ls -l:

fileserver:/home/400/mirrorDists/debian/pool/main/k/kde4libs# ls -l
ls: no se puede acceder a kdelibs5-dev_4.1.0-1_i386.deb: `handle' de fichero 
NFS en desuso
ls: no se puede acceder a kdelibs5-dbg_4.1.0-1_i386.deb: `handle' de fichero 
NFS en desuso
ls: no se puede acceder a kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-1_all.deb: `handle' de fichero 
NFS en desuso
total 87112
-rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  9478568 jul 26 03:17 kdelibs5_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  9476622 ago  6 23:47 kdelibs5_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
-? ? ??   ?? kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-1_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  3138380 ago  6 23:47 kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-2_all.deb
-? ? ??   ?? kdelibs5-dbg_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data 65057664 ago  6 23:47 kdelibs5-dbg_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
-? ? ??   ?? kdelibs5-dev_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  1492206 ago  6 23:47 kdelibs5-dev_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data   424718 jul 26 03:17 kdelibs-bin_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
drwxr-sr-x 2 root www-data 4096 ago  9 04:50 kdelibs-bin_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
fileserver:/home/400/mirrorDists/debian/pool/main/k/kde4libs#   
 


Son los ficheros que como privilegios tienen interrogantes, igual que el 
nombre de usuario, grupo y fecha de creacion.

Alguien saber como eliminar estos ficheros?

Un saludo y gracias anticipadas
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Re: 'handle' de fichero NFS en desuso

2008-08-11 Thread Carmen Marcela Alegria C.



--- El lun 11-ago-08, xve [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 De:: xve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: 'handle' de fichero NFS en desuso
 A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Fecha: lunes, 11 agosto, 2008, 12:15 pm
 Hola a todos,
 
 En un mirror de Debian, me he encontrado con unos fichero
 que no puedo borrar, 
 ya que al intentar eliminarlos o leerlos, me da el error:
 `handle' de fichero NFS en desuso
 
 Si hago un ls -l:
 
 fileserver:/home/400/mirrorDists/debian/pool/main/k/kde4libs#
 ls -l
 ls: no se puede acceder a kdelibs5-dev_4.1.0-1_i386.deb:
 `handle' de fichero 
 NFS en desuso
 ls: no se puede acceder a kdelibs5-dbg_4.1.0-1_i386.deb:
 `handle' de fichero 
 NFS en desuso
 ls: no se puede acceder a kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-1_all.deb:
 `handle' de fichero 
 NFS en desuso
 total 87112
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  9478568 jul 26 03:17
 kdelibs5_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  9476622 ago  6 23:47
 kdelibs5_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
 -? ? ??   ??
 kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-1_all.deb
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  3138380 ago  6 23:47
 kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-2_all.deb
 -? ? ??   ??
 kdelibs5-dbg_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data 65057664 ago  6 23:47
 kdelibs5-dbg_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
 -? ? ??   ??
 kdelibs5-dev_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data  1492206 ago  6 23:47
 kdelibs5-dev_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data   424718 jul 26 03:17
 kdelibs-bin_4.1.0-1_i386.deb
 drwxr-sr-x 2 root www-data 4096 ago  9 04:50
 kdelibs-bin_4.1.0-2_i386.deb
 fileserver:/home/400/mirrorDists/debian/pool/main/k/kde4libs#

 
 
 Son los ficheros que como privilegios tienen interrogantes,
 igual que el 
 nombre de usuario, grupo y fecha de creacion.
 
 Alguien saber como eliminar estos ficheros?
 
 Un saludo y gracias anticipadas
 -- 
 xve
 

 Deberias antes de intentar eliminar los archivos, verificar que en tu server 
nfs este correcto el servicio, el trafico de la red, ademas de que exista el 
punto de montaje en tu cliente, incluso alguna cuestion de seguridad entre 
ambos sistemas. 

Ese error es obvio que hay un problema entre lo montado via nfs y el sevidor 
que lo provee. 




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problemas con dns

2008-08-11 Thread rene
Hola lista  
Tengo un pc con debian etch instalado y queiro configurar un servidor 
dnd 9.3.4-2etch3 el cual tengo ya instalado. despues de terminal de 
configurarlo cada vez que lo voy a arrancar me da el siguiente error: 
rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused

Puenden por favor ayudarme con esto tiene alguna idea del ¿por que?

Gracias. nuevamente.


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Re: Svn Actualizar sitio

2008-08-11 Thread Manolet Gmail
2008/8/9 Milton Mazzarri [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/8/10 Manolet Gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Una de las cuentas tiene un sitio que quiero actualizar
 automaticamente con cada commit, asi que edite el hook post-commit y
 agregue esto:

 /usr/bin/svn update /home/lugoherm/www/ --username XXX --password lXX

 ejecute ./post-commit

 Saludos cordiales,

 Al script post-commit siempre le llegan dos parámetros, el primero de
 ellos es la ruta en la jerarquía del sistema de ficheros del
 repositorio y el segundo es la revisión que ha sido enviada. De manera
 adicional, debe verificarse que el usuario que ejecuta el script (si
 tienes un Servidor Web que accede a SVN entonces sería el usuario
 asociado, ej. www-data), también el usuario debe poder acceder al
 menos en modo lectura a nivel de la jerarquía de ficheros a la ruta
 del repositorio.

 En lo particular prefiero hacer uso de SVN::Notify::Config,
 básicamente tienes todas las opciones de SVN::Notify (y sus subclases)
 tomando la configuración basada en YAML, de ese modo tu hook es un
 archivo de configuración, esto te ofrece flexibilidad, comodidad y
 legibilidad en tus scripts para notificaciones en SVN. Al menos en tu
 caso te recomiendo revisar la documentación asociada a
 SVN::Notify::Mirror[1], en resumen hace esto:

 DESCRIPTION
 Keep a directory in sync with a portion of a Subversion repository.
 Typically used to keep a development web server in sync with the
 changes made to the repository. This directory can either be on the
 same box as the repository itself, or it can be remote (via SSH
 connection).

 HTH

 [1] 
 http://search.cpan.org/~jpeacock/SVN-Notify-Mirror-0.038/lib/SVN/Notify/Mirror.pm
 --
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 Usuario de GNU/Linux: #369158


Instale SVN::Notify::Mirror, coloque lo siguiente en mi archivo post-commit

REPOS=$1
REV=$2

svnnotify --repos-path $1 --revision $2 \
   --handler Mirror --to /home/lugoherm/public_html \
   [--svn-binary /usr/bin/svn] \
   [--minimal]

Hice un commit al repositorio para probar pero no actualizo
automaticamente nada, como puedo depurarlo? que puede ser lo que esta
pasando? la carpeta /home/lugoherm/public_html la tengo con permisos
777


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PROBLEMAS CON DNS

2008-08-11 Thread rene
bueno eso ya lo hize y resulta que dentro de /var/cache/bind no hay 
ningun fichero.


Gracias


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Re: Permisos de archivos

2008-08-11 Thread Manolo Díaz
El Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:57:18 -0500
frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Saludos lista,
 
  
 
 Existe algún comando que me recupere los permisos que tiene un determinado 
 archivo o directorio?
 
  
 
 Para luego, asignárselos al mismo u otro archivo con algo como:
 
 chmod “permisos_recuperados” /ruta/archivo
 
  
 
 Pregunto esto pues requiero hacer un script el cual recupere los permisos de 
 un determinado archivo para luego poder volver a asignárselos si fuese 
 necesario.
 
  
 
 Alguna idea de cómo hacerlo?
 
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stat -c %a nombre_del_fichero

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Re: PROBLEMAS CON DNS

2008-08-11 Thread rlc
 Ah, entonces ese debe ser uno de los problemas, ahi debes tener los
 ficheros que hacen referencia a tus zonas/a, es decir la zona inversa y
 demas.

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 bueno eso ya lo hize y resulta que dentro de /var/cache/bind no hay
 ningun fichero.

 Gracias

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Kontact en Debian Lenny

2008-08-11 Thread Omar Murray
Hola lista:

En la última actualización de Debian Lenny encuentro algunas modificaciones en 
el Kontact. A saber:

Desapareció el gestor de anotaciones Basket. Chequeando los paquetes veo que 
la última versión del Kontact tiene conflictos con el Basket. Calculo que 
futuras actualizaciones terminarán con este conflicto. Pero lo más extraño es 
que:

Queriendo crear una tarea programada (To-Do) no me permite guardarla en el 
disco duro. Verifiqué que hubiera espacio suficiente, de hecho puedo guardar 
otros archivos, y nada. Se puede considerar esto como un bug...? Intenté 
googlear un poco y todavía no he encontrado nada. Si a alguien le está 
pasando algo similar, o tenga alguna solución será bienvenida.

Gracias y saludos.
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Servidor Debian Linux Virtualizando Unix o nativo Unix?

2008-08-11 Thread Sebastian Pescio
Compañeros de la lista, presentes:

Quiero plantearles una situación para ver que opinan:

- En este momento tenemos un equipo que corre un sistema propietario sobre 
unix, el equipo es un pentitum IV con 512 de ram (algo chico para los 
estándares actuales).

Cabe aclarar que el sistema propietario corre sobre unix, pero podría correr 
sobre linux (previa recompilación de los fuentes y adquisición de las 
licencias).

Ahora bien, se ha comprado un server de última generación -mucho mas grande que 
el actual- entonces estoy evaluando estas alternativas:

1) Utilizar el server FULL Unix (como el que tenemos actualmente) y con el 
sistema tal cual tenemos hoy en día, entonces:

- No compro licencias ni debo recompilar.
- Tendría un server demasiado grande, y desaprovechado a mi criteri.

2) Instalar Linux en el Server (Debian obviamente) y virtualizar 2 GB de RAM 
con XEN para emular el equipo que tenemos actualmente, manteniendo Unix y sin 
recompilar.

- Esto me agrada porque tendría un server mucho mas grande que el actual, con 
la estabilidad de Debian y XEN y con la versatilidad de Linux por detras.

3) Instalar Debian Linux y adquirir las licencias del Software Propietario para 
Linux y recompilar todo (esto no me agrada por obvias razones... $).

Que opinan?

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Re: Servidor Debian Linux Virtualizando Unix o nativo Unix?

2008-08-11 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Sebastian Pescio escreveu:

Compañeros de la lista, presentes:

Quiero plantearles una situación para ver que opinan:

- En este momento tenemos un equipo que corre un sistema propietario sobre 
unix, el equipo es un pentitum IV con 512 de ram (algo chico para los 
estándares actuales).

Cabe aclarar que el sistema propietario corre sobre unix, pero podría correr 
sobre linux (previa recompilación de los fuentes y adquisición de las 
licencias).

Ahora bien, se ha comprado un server de última generación -mucho mas grande que 
el actual- entonces estoy evaluando estas alternativas:

1) Utilizar el server FULL Unix (como el que tenemos actualmente) y con el 
sistema tal cual tenemos hoy en día, entonces:

- No compro licencias ni debo recompilar.
- Tendría un server demasiado grande, y desaprovechado a mi criteri.

2) Instalar Linux en el Server (Debian obviamente) y virtualizar 2 GB de RAM 
con XEN para emular el equipo que tenemos actualmente, manteniendo Unix y sin 
recompilar.

- Esto me agrada porque tendría un server mucho mas grande que el actual, con 
la estabilidad de Debian y XEN y con la versatilidad de Linux por detras.

3) Instalar Debian Linux y adquirir las licencias del Software Propietario para 
Linux y recompilar todo (esto no me agrada por obvias razones... $).

Que opinan?

Muchas Gracias y saludos para todos.


  

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Ahí algunas consideraciones...

1) No comprar licencias ni recompilar este software sería un punto a 
tener en cuenta, realmente ahorraría tiempo y reduciría la cantidad de 
problemas a resolver. Pero cuanto al servidor grande y desaprovechado 
discrepo totalmente... antes de hablar de esto, va un pregunta: ¿qué 
viene a ser FULL Unix? Supongo que estás tratando de decir que tenés un 
sistema unix-like que no es Linux; por favor, aclare un poquito más esto.


Entonces:

1.1) server demasiado grande: depende de lo que quieras hacer con tu 
server y de lo que quieras instalar. Seguramente, a este servidor le 
podés sacar bastante provechando usándolo para mucho más que simplemente 
correr esta aplicación.


1.2) y desaprovechado a mi criteri.: pero muchacho, es que pensás que 
los programas sólo corren en Linux? No, no, no... lo desaprovechás sí 
así lo querés. Te lo digo con total seguridad que usando cualquier *nix 
vas a poder a tener este servidor haciendo muchísimo más de lo que 
imaginás. Elija el *nix que quieras, Solaris, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, 
OpenSolaris, etc, etc y vas a poder instalar la aplicación en cuestión y 
muchísimas cosas más (servidor Web, DNS, router, servidor SMTP, Samba, 
sistema anti-spam, IMAP, POP3, servidor NFS, NIS, LDAP, MySQL, 
PostgreSQL y bastante cosa más).


2) Vamos por parte y sin confundirnos...

2.1) tendría un server mucho mas grande que el actual: y sí, estás 
comprando hardware más nuevo y obtendrás más rendimiento por el simple 
hecho de tener fierro nuevo, sin importar lo de software.


2.2)con la estabilidad de Debian y XEN y con la versatilidad de Linux 
por detras.: *nix es versatil, esa es la clave. Amamos Linux, pero no 
nos olvidemos de lo que hay además y que también aporta versatilidad y 
estabilidad (que hable la gente de OpenBSD y los chicos de PF (packet 
filter)).


3) Y ya casi terminamos...

3.1) Instalar Debian Linux y adquirir las licencias del Software 
Propietario para Linux y recompilar todo: bien por el hecho de seguir 
usando Linux (un *nix más :)) y malo por lo de la plata. :(


Ahora te digo lo que haría yo...

A) instalar Linux y XEN

B) instalar un Unix y la aplicación

C) usufructar de mi nuevo servidor.

Me equivoco o no estás muy acostumbrado a los Unixes que no sean Linux? 
Entonces, siendo así, tendrías que aprender lo mínimo para hacer 
funcionar la aplicación.


Enfin, suerte!!!
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kvm/qemu: vnc-geometri?

2008-08-11 Thread fredrik
Har nu kompletterat med en virtuell 32-bitarsmaskin (kör Lenny-x86)  
med hjälp av virt-manager (använder kvm/qemu och libvirtd). Den funkar  
fint även om muspekaren är krånglig (det rekommenderas att använda en  
extern USB-pekplatta för den virtuella maskinen). Jag behöver  
sun-java-plugin för att kunna fylla i reseräkningar... Dyker den  
någonsin upp i 64-bitarsversion?


Det är inte uppenbart hur man byter skärmstorlek (-geometry) på den  
vnc-server genom vilken man ansluter till de virtualiserade maskinerna  
och det framgår inte av dokumentationen. Rutan blir bara 800x600 - för  
lite för en Iceweasel. Är det så illa att man måste ange default i  
Xorg.conf ?


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Flytta debian installation till en annan disk.

2008-08-11 Thread mikael


Hej

Jag försöker flytta en existerande debian installaion
(etch) som ligger på en 250gb usb hd (dock bara 6GB använt)
till en liten 20GB hd

innan när jag försökt sånt här så har
jag kört dd och kört över hela disken från den
ena till den andara men eftersom dd kör över hela disken
oavsett om det finns data där eller ej så funkar ju det
inte så bra i detta fallet.

Jag gjorde en ganska grundlig undersökning på nätet
för att hitta en information om hur man skall göra och
då det finns många så hittade jag ingen riktigt
komplett beskrivning samt ingen direkt för debian.

jag hittade en på techrepublic som var ganaska väl
beskriven
(http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6149142.html)

så jag försökte följa denna efter bästa
förmåga med lite improvisation. och det funkade
inte
så bra. Jag hoppas ni kan ge mig lite insight vad jag gör
för fel

1) fdiskade den nya hd så add den stämde överrens med
den nya utseende mässigt en primary(sda1) (ext3 19 GB)  och en
logisk(sda5) swap för resten

1) Körde igång från en live debian och mountade
orignal hd(sda) + den nya hd'n(sdb

2) gjorde cp -ax /orig/* /new/*

3) mkdir /new/dev/shm /new/data/dev/pts (/new/proc/ o /new/sys/ fanns
redan.

4) bootade up det gamla os'et mountade nya disken på /mnt

5) /sbin/grub-install --root-directory=/mnt --recheck /dev/sdb

Här är problemen börjar grub klagar på att den
inte hittar /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 och skriver inte nån MBR

jag provade bootade nu istället Debian live (från memory
stick) och göra en chroot /mnt /bin/bash och sen köra 
grub 
find /boot/grub/stage1 

då klagar den bara på att den inte hittar den. och det
går inte heller att
göra setup (hd0) eller (hd1)
Har ni några tips på vad jag skall gå vidare med ?

Tack på förhand

/Mikael



Re: Flytta debian installation till en annan disk.

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Nylander
mån 2008-08-11 klockan 17:42 +0200 skrev mikael:

 4) bootade up det gamla os'et mountade nya disken på /mnt
 
 5) /sbin/grub-install --root-directory=/mnt --recheck /dev/sdb
 
 Här är problemen börjar grub klagar på att den inte
 hittar /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 och skriver inte nån MBR

5) chroot /mnt /bin/bash
6) /sbin/grub-install --root-directory=/ --recheck /dev/sdb

Danne


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Re: kvm/qemu: vnc-geometri?

2008-08-11 Thread Thomas Lundqvist
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 05:37:47PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Det är inte uppenbart hur man byter skärmstorlek (-geometry) på den  
 vnc-server genom vilken man ansluter till de virtualiserade maskinerna  
 och det framgår inte av dokumentationen. Rutan blir bara 800x600 - för  
 lite för en Iceweasel. Är det så illa att man måste ange default i  
 Xorg.conf ?

Jag har följande rad i en .vncrc fil:

  $geometry =1152x864;

Men jag kör tightvnc enbart, inget virtuellt. Det kanske fungerar
på samma sätt för dig...

/Thomas L


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Som fica mudo

2008-08-11 Thread Felix Costa

Olá pessoal,

Atualmente estou utilizando em casa o debian lenny com o gnome e o som 
alsa sem utilizar nenhum server de som.
O som está funcionanado em todos os aplicativos que uitilizo. ex. 
rhythmbox, kaffeine, skype, msn, etc...


Um coiusa estranh que ocorre é que sem mais nem menos o som fica mudo. 
Eu temnh oque abrir controle de volume do gnome e desmarcar a opção sem 
audio. Depois de algum tempo esta opção volta a ser marcado novamente.


Alguém já passou por isso.

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Teclado virtual do BB de novo...

2008-08-11 Thread Alexandre Faissal
Pessoal,

Instalei o debian lenny/sid com o kernel 2.6.25-2-amd64 em um PC,
instalei o java e fiz o link simbolico ln -s do libjavaplugin_oji.so
para os diretorios /usr/lib/firefox/plugin,
usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugin, usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin e o teclado
do BB ainda não funciona... Jah tentei instalar outra versão do j2re e
nada... quando dou o comando java --version ele retorna:

java version 1.5.0
gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.1

Se alguém tiver uma luz

Muito Obrigado Galera

Faissal.

Ps: jah tomei esse mesmo procedimento com outras maquinas e funcionou legal


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Re: Teclado virtual do BB de novo...

2008-08-11 Thread Davi Vercillo C. Garcia (デビッド)
Fala Alexandre,

Infelizmente o plugin de Java não funciona com o Firefox 64bits. Caso
você queire uma gambiarra para instala-lo, use, simultaneamente, o
Firefox de 32bits e de 64bits.


 java version 1.5.0
 gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.1

 Se alguém tiver uma luz

 Muito Obrigado Galera

 Faissal.

 Ps: jah tomei esse mesmo procedimento com outras maquinas e funcionou 
 legal


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Sobre o squid

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Bessa
Olá,

alguém sabe me dizer por que quando páro o serviço squid ele retorna várias 
mensagens dizendo: Neighbour table overflow?
Eu uso o comando: /etc/init.d/squid stop
Algum problema, antes não aparecia!
Até mais.


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Ajuda com Iptables

2008-08-11 Thread Márcio Erli
Preciso de que toda vezes que meus usuários digitar no browser o nome da 
empresa minhaempresa

que seja redirecionado para um ip especifico(192.168.x.xxx). Ninha intranet.
Como faço isto?
A rede dos usuários é a mesma.

Grato, Márcio.


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Festival Software Livre - DF

2008-08-11 Thread Flamarion Jorge

Bom dia todos.

Estou enviando o link para o conhecimento de todos, lembrando que a 
submissão de trabalhos já está aberta.

E em breve as inscrições estarão abertas também.
Como esta mensagem está sendo enviada para varias listas, queria fazer 
um pedido ao pessoal da tradução, que façam um esforço para participarem 
do evento com alguma palestra, minicurso ou oficina, para que seja 
mostrada a importância deste trabalho para a comunidade de software 
livre no brasil.


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Re: Teclado virtual do BB de novo...

2008-08-11 Thread João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Davi Vercillo C. Garcia (デビッド) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Infelizmente o plugin de Java não funciona com o Firefox 64bits. Caso você
 queire uma gambiarra para instala-lo, use, simultaneamente, o Firefox de
 32bits e de 64bits.


Eu pesquisei mt pra botar o plugin do java no 64 bits, mas não teve jeito. A
solução mesmo é instalar o Firefox 32 bits.

Aqui estão as dicas para instalar no ubuntu:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#32bit

Veja se é análogo para o Debian.

Falous!!
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Re: Festival Software Livre - DF

2008-08-11 Thread Flamarion Jorge

Puxa vida esqueci de enviar o link.
Mas agora vai.

http://www.festivalsoftwarelivre.org/evento/

Att
Flamarion Jorge


Flamarion Jorge escreveu:

Bom dia todos.

Estou enviando o link para o conhecimento de todos, lembrando que a 
submissão de trabalhos já está aberta.

E em breve as inscrições estarão abertas também.
Como esta mensagem está sendo enviada para varias listas, queria fazer 
um pedido ao pessoal da tradução, que façam um esforço para participarem 
do evento com alguma palestra, minicurso ou oficina, para que seja 
mostrada a importância deste trabalho para a comunidade de software 
livre no brasil.





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Re: Ajuda com Iptables

2008-08-11 Thread jmhenrique
Em Monday 11 August 2008 10:52:19 Márcio Erli escreveu:
 Preciso de que toda vezes que meus usuários digitar no browser o nome da
 empresa minhaempresa
 que seja redirecionado para um ip especifico(192.168.x.xxx). Ninha
 intranet. Como faço isto?
 A rede dos usuários é a mesma.

 Grato, Márcio.

Tem que  ser por iptables?  Talvez seja bem mais elegante por dns... 


[ ]s,Henry


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Res: Ajuda com Iptables

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Bessa
Também pensei isso, não precisa ser pelo iptables, é só editar o arquivo 
/etc/hosts das estações

adiciona a linha
192.168.x.xxx minhaempresa
Cria um arquivo hosts padrão e substitui remotamente, caso seja em muitos 
computadores.
Abraço.


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Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 11 de Agosto de 2008 10:56:54
Assunto: Re: Ajuda com Iptables

Em Monday 11 August 2008 10:52:19 Márcio Erli escreveu:
 Preciso de que toda vezes que meus usuários digitar no browser o nome da
 empresa minhaempresa
 que seja redirecionado para um ip especifico(192.168.x.xxx). Ninha
 intranet. Como faço isto?
 A rede dos usuários é a mesma.

 Grato, Márcio.

Tem que  ser por iptables?  Talvez seja bem mais elegante por dns... 


[ ]s,Henry


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Re: Ajuda com Iptables

2008-08-11 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

jmhenrique escribió:

Em Monday 11 August 2008 10:52:19 Márcio Erli escreveu:

Preciso de que toda vezes que meus usuários digitar no browser o nome da
empresa minhaempresa
que seja redirecionado para um ip especifico(192.168.x.xxx). Ninha
intranet. Como faço isto?
A rede dos usuários é a mesma.

Grato, Márcio.


Tem que  ser por iptables?  Talvez seja bem mais elegante por dns... 



[ ]s,Henry




O Marcio... como o jmhenrique disse, você num estaria confundido DNS com 
iptables, não?


Esse comportamente que você está descrevendo é típico de um DNS. Ou 
seja, é para isso que serve um DNS. Você escreve num navegador (ou 
qualquer outro programa o nombre completo de um PC na rede) e o DNS 
traduz esse nome para o endereço ip correspondente.


Se bem que, há outra opção também, e ela seria você explicar um pouco 
mais o que você quer, como está montada a rede, etc, etc, etc.


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Re: Ajuda com Iptables

2008-08-11 Thread Rodrigo Escobar
Ou então.. Já que a coisa é bem específica..

porque voce nao coloca no /etc/hosts direto ?

abs

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 Em Monday 11 August 2008 10:52:19 Márcio Erli escreveu:
  Preciso de que toda vezes que meus usuários digitar no browser o nome da
  empresa minhaempresa
  que seja redirecionado para um ip especifico(192.168.x.xxx). Ninha
  intranet. Como faço isto?
  A rede dos usuários é a mesma.
 
  Grato, Márcio.

 Tem que  ser por iptables?  Talvez seja bem mais elegante por dns...


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Re: [LDP-Br] Festival Software Livre - DF

2008-08-11 Thread ¡ElCheVive!
cade o link?

abraços,

Luiz Fernando

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Re: Ajuda com Iptables

2008-08-11 Thread Rondineli Saad




jmhenrique escreveu:

  Em Monday 11 August 2008 10:52:19 Mrcio Erli escreveu:
  
  
Preciso de que toda vezes que meus usurios digitar no browser o nome da
empresa "minhaempresa"
que seja redirecionado para um ip especifico(192.168.x.xxx). Ninha
intranet. Como fao isto?
A rede dos usurios  a mesma.

Grato, Mrcio.

  
  
Tem que  ser por iptables?  Talvez seja bem mais elegante por dns... 


[ ]s,Henry


  


Neste caso, voc no usar o iptables, pois isso  resoluo de nome.
Portanto, voc deve configurar o bind (DNS) para este fim.

Abs
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Re: [LDP-Br] Festival Software Livre - DF

2008-08-11 Thread Fernando Boaglio
Eu fui convidado por eles para falar sobre o KDE e a LDP-BR, já confirmei
minha presença! =)

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Re: [PSL-Brasil] Festival Software Livre - DF

2008-08-11 Thread Pablo Sánchez
...

Flamarion: que link?!?!?! Não veio link nenhum

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Re: Abrir varias instancias do squid

2008-08-11 Thread Wagner Santos (xwindow)
Neste caso eu faria o seguinte:

Colocaria uma regra de proxy-transparente para direcionar o tráfego para o
SQUID. No SQUID por sua vez eu barraria todo e qualquer tráfego não
autenticado, obrigando assim com que os usuários tenham que setar o proxy
para poder navegar.

2008/8/10 Brivaldo Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Entendi,

  O que você quer é:

  No SQUID1 rodá-lo com autenticação.
  No SQUID2 rodá-lo para o resto da rede.

  Filtros separados?

  Cara, eu posso te dizer que você pode rodar 1 dos squids enjaulados
 num ambiente chroot  e o outro da forma que mais te convier.. ou em
 outro chroot ou localmente mesmo e fazer como você quer.

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Festival Software Livre - DF

2008-08-11 Thread Flamarion Jorge

Bom dia todos.

Estou enviando o link para o conhecimento de todos, lembrando que a 
submissão de trabalhos já está aberta.

E em breve as inscrições estarão abertas também.
Como esta mensagem está sendo enviada para varias listas, queria fazer 
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do evento com alguma palestra, minicurso ou oficina, para que seja 
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Re: Abrir varias instancias do squid

2008-08-11 Thread gunix
Essa é a intensao.
Porem se eu colocar o proxy como tranparente nunca será solicitado a a
senha, pois a autenticacao nao funcona com proxy tranarente.

Pelo menos é isso que tenho visto por ai.

Mas se tiver algo para  acrescentar pra mim agradeceria.

Att
Gustavo

2008/8/11 Wagner Santos (xwindow) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Neste caso eu faria o seguinte:

 Colocaria uma regra de proxy-transparente para direcionar o tráfego para o
 SQUID. No SQUID por sua vez eu barraria todo e qualquer tráfego não
 autenticado, obrigando assim com que os usuários tenham que setar o proxy
 para poder navegar.

 2008/8/10 Brivaldo Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Entendi,

  O que você quer é:

  No SQUID1 rodá-lo com autenticação.
  No SQUID2 rodá-lo para o resto da rede.

  Filtros separados?

  Cara, eu posso te dizer que você pode rodar 1 dos squids enjaulados
 num ambiente chroot  e o outro da forma que mais te convier.. ou em
 outro chroot ou localmente mesmo e fazer como você quer.

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melhor distro para servidor

2008-08-11 Thread Dinho
boa tarde pessoal,

eu gostaria de pedir a vocês se por um acaso vocês poderiam me indicar a
melhor distro para eu montar um bridge aki no trabalho, onde terei que fazer
uma divisão da banda larga e utilizar uma parte dessa divisão para o voip..


desde já agradeço a ajuda de todos vocês :)


Re: Teclado virtual do BB de novo...

2008-08-11 Thread Fabiano Manoel de Andrade
Em Seg, 2008-08-11 às 09:36 -0300, Alexandre Faissal escreveu:
 Pessoal,
 
 Instalei o debian lenny/sid com o kernel 2.6.25-2-amd64 em um PC,
 instalei o java e fiz o link simbolico ln -s do libjavaplugin_oji.so
 para os diretorios /usr/lib/firefox/plugin,
 usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugin, usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin e o teclado
 do BB ainda não funciona... Jah tentei instalar outra versão do j2re e
 nada... quando dou o comando java --version ele retorna:
 
 java version 1.5.0
 gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.1
 
 Se alguém tiver uma luz
 
 Muito Obrigado Galera
 
 Faissal.
 
 Ps: jah tomei esse mesmo procedimento com outras maquinas e funcionou 
 legal
 
 
Olá.

Uma ótima fonte de consulta para esses problemas com 64bits pode ser
encontrado no link abaixo
http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html
Abraço.
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RES: Problemas com letras maiusculas...

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel
O que eu fiz até agora que resolveu o problema foi recarregar o teclado com
o comando loadkeys
 
Mesmo que o teclado já esteja configurado corretamente, eu coloquei um
script na inicialização e reconfigurei o teclado e aí o caps lock funciona
normalmente. Sei que é um bug conhecido e acho que em breve será resolvido,
mas por enquanto, essa gambi resolveu pra mim...
 
[]'s
 
Daniel

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De: Fábio de Sousa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: terça-feira, 29 de julho de 2008 17:17
Para: dup
Assunto: Problemas com letras maiusculas...


Fala, Galera da DUP!

Alguém poderia me dizer por que o debian não consegue achar a configuração
correta do teclado?
Estou tendo problemas com letras maiúsculas, somente quando ativo a tecla
Caps Lock! 
Algumas teclas ficam maiúsculas, outras não.
Já tentei todas as dicas no Forum do Debian, e nenhuma resolve meu problema,
lembrando que já tentei usar a mesma configuração de Teclado que o Ubuntu
usa - fiz questão de instalar o ubuntu na mesma máquina, só para verificar a
configuração de teclado - , (no caso o mesmo mapa de Teclado) e não
funciona
Outra coisa o erro só acontece, quando estou usando o console, no modo
gráfico funciona sem problemas...

Abraços,
Fábiocs



Re: melhor distro para servidor

2008-08-11 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Dinho escribió:

boa tarde pessoal,

eu gostaria de pedir a vocês se por um acaso vocês poderiam me indicar a 
melhor distro para eu montar um bridge aki no trabalho, onde terei que 
fazer uma divisão da banda larga e utilizar uma parte dessa divisão para 
o voip..



desde já agradeço a ajuda de todos vocês :)


Bom... para fazer isso você vai precisar de ferramentas que não depende 
de nenhuma distibuição. Aliás, são ferramentas que estarão disponíveis 
em qualquer Linux (ou até mesmo *nix no geral).


Baseandome nisso tudo... minha sugestão é: procure a distribuição com a 
qual você se sente mais cômodo.


Já montei bridges usando Debian, Gentoo e até mesmo naquelas 
distribuições em disquete.


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Re: Teclado virtual do BB de novo...

2008-08-11 Thread Alexandre Faissal
Prezado João,

Estava tentando fazer o que vc recomendou, mas para instalar o linux32
aparece uma mensagem dizendo que para instalar o linux32 tenho que
remover alguns pacotes inculsive um essencial util-linux... será que
posso remover mesmo este pacote? No synaptic diz que o sistema pode
nao funcionar O que devo fazer?

Desde já agradeço a atenção de todos...

Valeu...

Alexandre Faissal.

Ps: abaixo esta a mensagem do apt-get

 apt-get install linux32
.
.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  flashplugin-nonfree nspluginwrapper util-linux util-linux-locales
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  linux32
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  util-linux

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 Infelizmente o plugin de Java não funciona com o Firefox 64bits. Caso você
 queire uma gambiarra para instala-lo, use, simultaneamente, o Firefox de
 32bits e de 64bits.

 Eu pesquisei mt pra botar o plugin do java no 64 bits, mas não teve jeito. A
 solução mesmo é instalar o Firefox 32 bits.

 Aqui estão as dicas para instalar no ubuntu:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#32bit

 Veja se é análogo para o Debian.

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Re: melhor distro para servidor

2008-08-11 Thread Dinho
eu estava pensando em utilizar o ubuntu, pois essa distro eu já utilizei a
versão desktop..

existe uma configuração mais específica para ele mas versão server? eu posso
utilizar para a instalação o próprio cd do desktop?


Re: melhor distro para servidor

2008-08-11 Thread Joel Patrão
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Dinho wrote:
 eu estava pensando em utilizar o ubuntu, pois essa distro eu já utilizei
 a versão desktop..
 
 existe uma configuração mais específica para ele mas versão server? eu
 posso utilizar para a instalação o próprio cd do desktop?

Sim, existe... http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
, mas tb é possível usar a própria instalacao do cd da versao deskstop
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Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious

2008-08-11 Thread Shachar Or
On Monday 11 August 2008 07:53, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 07:35:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson 
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  TTBOMK, neither apt/aptitude/synaptics stores explicit this is why
  package A is recommended data.  If it did, I'd immediately convert to
  that app.

   The problem is that this information isn't stored anywhere in a
 standard, machine-parsable format.  If it was, I'd immediately start
 using it.  I know there was some discussion in the last year or so about
 documenting Suggests, but I don't recall what happened to it...

Hi.

I've started a [1]discussion in debian-devel and debian-dpkg. Haven't any 
replies yet.


   Daniel

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Re: Slow video[SOLVED]

2008-08-11 Thread Nick Lidakis

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/12/08 02:00, Nick Lidakis wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:


The inner scroll region?  No sluggishness or slowdown.  Noticeable
CPU usage by /usr/bin/X11/X when I rapidly jerk the scroll bar up
and down, but that's normal.


   Are ya using
the NV or Nvidia driver?

Sorry.  The nvidia driver.


I forgot to ask if you were running a high resolution monitor, perhaps
1600x1200 or greater? Are you running any of the 3d accelerated desktop,
or regular 2d window manager?


A y2k-vintage Gateway VX1120 (Hitachi Diamondtron flat-screen CRT)
at 1280x1024 with GNOME  Metacity.  (I see no reason to waste
resources on eye candy.)


Tonight I tried the sluggish website I mentioned in an earlier post 
(http://www.tempus-vivit.net/taverne/thema/935), but at a 1280x1024 
resolution. Better, still sluggish, but not the molasses that 1600x1200 
was. Dropping down to 1024x768, things were very snappy and the 
sluggishness was completely gone.


I'm giving up on the Nvdia cards. Seems I'm not the only one having 
serious issues with 2D support with their latest driver series. I'm glad 
to say that I on;y paid $12 USD for the Quadro card on eBay.


I picked up a lower end ATI 3650 after doing some reading online. Didn't 
realize AMD/ATI were releasing specs to the open source developers, with 
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Re: rsync backup to ext3-formatted usb flash drive?

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas


On Aug 10, 2008, at 2:12 AM, Brian Wells wrote:

Hi. I'm using svn-fast-backup (in the subversion-tools package) to  
make
rsync backups of my subversion repository.  The place I'm backing  
up to
is on an ext3-formatted usb flash drive, and I'm wondering if this  
is a

wise thing to do.

I know that flash drive blocks wear out after a certain number of
writes, and rsync uses hard links to avoid duplicate backup files.  My
question is, does this mean that the inodes' reference counts will be
changed frequently enough that it might wear out that block of the  
flash

drive any time soon?  (I currently backup about 900 files one or two
times a day.)  If so, is ext3 capable of using another block for the
inode, or will I lose the ability to read/write some files completely?

Thanks,
Brian



Here are some basic facts about USB flash drives:


The underlying NAND flash RAM is guaranteed for 100K writes (older  
technology) or 1M (more recent).  After that it's retention time  
starts to decrease, sometimes to as little as a few weeks, and with  
continued use eventually to complete failure.  The retention time of  
a new, fully-functional NAND flash RAM is hundreds of years.


USB flash drives have controller chips in the drive that, among other  
things, talk USB protocol to the host.  One of the other things they  
do is try to distribute the writes over the available blocks,  
extending the lifetime of the device beyond the raw lifetime of the  
underlying NAND flash.  But the firmware in the controller usually  
assumes you are using a FAT file-system.  If, for example, you use  
EXT3 rather than FAT, you will probably confuse it.  I don't know  
what the effect will be on device life, but I'm guessing it will  
probably be something like a return to the behavior of the raw NAND  
flash.


Write blocks are large (4-8K or more).  If you update one inode in a  
block, you have to read the entire block, update the inode and write  
the entire block back again.  Each write to an inode causes an  
effective write to all the inodes in the same block.  So there's  
roughly a 64x multiplier (8Kbytes/block divided by 128bytes/inode =  
64 inodes/block) in the number of writes.  Thus any given single  
inode is good for roughly 16K updates before it wears out.


Let's suppose your rsync backup causes a small number of updates for  
each inode it touches.  Call it 10, conservatively (it very well  
could be as low as 1 or 2 -- I don't know enough of the details of  
how rsync works at the filesystem level).  That gives you about 1600  
rsync runs before you start to wear out the inodes.  At twice a day,  
you can safely use your USB flash drive for 800 days, or between 2  
and 3 years.


So here's what I'd do.  Use your USB flash drive for a year, then  
retire it to the long-term archives and replace it with a new one.   
Let that be one of those things you do on or near your birthday, like  
schedule a checkup with your Doctor.  Also: dismount the flash drive,  
force an fsck, and remount it, every time you do a backup.  This will  
read and sanity-check every inode on the drive, without doing any  
writes.  If the fsck shows random errors, replace the drive because  
it's probably starting to wear out.


Sound reasonable?


Rick



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Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-11 Thread Johann Spies
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:09:32PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 I have used just enough emacs to learn that it is an amazing tool. I'm
 not downplaying vim. I use vim daily. It is my editor of choice for
 config files. I don't know why, it just is. 
 

Years ago I was editing a file of about 1.3 million lines in emacs.
Removing about 10% of that file made emacs hang on my PC.  That is
when I started to use vim for that type of work.  Vim did not have
that problem.

So I also use vim and emacs: emacs for programming (ocaml, latex,
python) and as email editor and vim for working with logfiles, bash
scripts, csv-files and config-files.

Regards
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Re: Mini-HOWTO: Outgoing BSMTP with exim

2008-08-11 Thread Johann Spies
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 12:12:40PM -0700, Julian Gilbey wrote:
 I've just had to create outgoing BSMTP files, upload the results to
 another server and then send the mail from there.  I've written a
 mini-HOWTO, which you can find at
 http://people.debian.org/~jdg/bsmtp.html
 
 I hope this is of use to some people!

Thanks.  It looks useful.

Regards
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Re: VGA modes for the supported resolutions

2008-08-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,10.Aug.08, 16:17:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
[...]

 Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated: No such 
 file or directory
 Could not open SDL display
 
 I've installed the kqemu packages yet 
 /dev/kqemu is absent.
 
 What is the problem with kqemu?
 
When I was using qemu I had this (now it's disabled, of course)

$ grep kqemu /etc/modprobe.d/00local
#options kqemu major=0

so /dev/kqemu gets created automatically

You will also have to list kqemu in /etc/modules to have it load on 
every boot. Otherwise you will have to modprobe it by hand.

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Re: home network problem - router is smarter than me

2008-08-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,10.Aug.08, 20:33:29, tyler wrote:
  
  If your router knows DNS then it might be enough to enable the
  'send host-name' directive in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (with the correct 
  value of course).
 
 
 Well, that got the router to recognize the hostname, but not the
 domainname. I'll look into the dhcp documentation and see if I can sort
 out the rest. 
 
But can you access the Windows machine by name? Before writing my 
previous post I experimented with my own router. No matter what I tried, 
I couldn't access the other machine by name. It seems that my router 
does not have DNS capabilities, so I can either use one of my machines 
as DNS or just populate /etc/hosts, which for two machines is more than 
manageable :)

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Re: home network problem - router is smarter than me

2008-08-11 Thread Shachar Or
On Monday 11 August 2008 10:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Sun,10.Aug.08, 20:33:29, tyler wrote:
   If your router knows DNS then it might be enough to enable the
   'send host-name' directive in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (with the
   correct value of course).
 
  Well, that got the router to recognize the hostname, but not the
  domainname. I'll look into the dhcp documentation and see if I can sort
  out the rest.

 But can you access the Windows machine by name? Before writing my
 previous post I experimented with my own router. No matter what I tried,
 I couldn't access the other machine by name. It seems that my router
 does not have DNS capabilities, so I can either use one of my machines
 as DNS or just populate /etc/hosts, which for two machines is more than
 manageable :)

While your router doesn't have a DNS name server it doesn't mean you won't be 
able to use names in your network.

You can set up a name server in one the the hosts in the network, for example, 
in the Debian box. I use dnsmasq for this because it is easy to configure and 
it can also be a dhcp server.

 Regards,
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Re: can't configure networking for static IP address

2008-08-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,10.Aug.08, 16:32:41, Vwaju wrote:

  How is your computer *physically* connected to the internet?
 
 I have an RCN cable modem (probably proprietary and not DOCSIS
 compliant) which connects to a Dell TrueMobile 2300 Wireless Broadband
 Router.
 The wireless router broadcasts to a Dell Inspiron 8500 running
 Windows.  In addition there are 2 computers connected through Ethernet
 ports on the router.  One of these is a Windows box, and the other is
 my Debian system.
 
I'm guessing at least one of the mentioned non-computer devices is doing 
NAT (a traceroute to the gateway specified by your ISP should show 
this).

Here are some keywords for you: NAT (network address translation) and 
specifically masquerading, port-forwarding, DMZ (demilitarized zone).

Wikipedia should have enough to get you going to at least know what to 
look for.

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Re: home network problem - router is smarter than me

2008-08-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,11.Aug.08, 10:37:58, Shachar Or wrote:
 On Monday 11 August 2008 10:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Sun,10.Aug.08, 20:33:29, tyler wrote:
If your router knows DNS then it might be enough to enable the
'send host-name' directive in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (with the
correct value of course).
  
   Well, that got the router to recognize the hostname, but not the
   domainname. I'll look into the dhcp documentation and see if I can sort
   out the rest.
 
  But can you access the Windows machine by name? Before writing my
  previous post I experimented with my own router. No matter what I tried,
  I couldn't access the other machine by name. It seems that my router
  does not have DNS capabilities, so I can either use one of my machines
  as DNS or just populate /etc/hosts, which for two machines is more than
  manageable :)
 
 While your router doesn't have a DNS name server it doesn't mean you won't be 
 able to use names in your network.
 
 You can set up a name server in one the the hosts in the network, for 
 example, 
 in the Debian box. I use dnsmasq for this because it is easy to configure and 
 it can also be a dhcp server.
 
Dear Shachar,

Please read my post again, especially the either ... or part ;)

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Re: Slow video[SOLVED]

2008-08-11 Thread Ron Johnson

On 08/11/08 01:01, Nick Lidakis wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/12/08 02:00, Nick Lidakis wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:


The inner scroll region?  No sluggishness or slowdown.  Noticeable
CPU usage by /usr/bin/X11/X when I rapidly jerk the scroll bar up
and down, but that's normal.

   Are ya 
using

the NV or Nvidia driver?

Sorry.  The nvidia driver.


I forgot to ask if you were running a high resolution monitor, perhaps
1600x1200 or greater? Are you running any of the 3d accelerated desktop,
or regular 2d window manager?


A y2k-vintage Gateway VX1120 (Hitachi Diamondtron flat-screen CRT)
at 1280x1024 with GNOME  Metacity.  (I see no reason to waste
resources on eye candy.)


Tonight I tried the sluggish website I mentioned in an earlier post 
(http://www.tempus-vivit.net/taverne/thema/935), but at a 1280x1024 
resolution. Better, still sluggish, but not the molasses that 1600x1200 
was. Dropping down to 1024x768, things were very snappy and the 
sluggishness was completely gone.


I'm giving up on the Nvdia cards. Seems I'm not the only one having 
serious issues with 2D support with their latest driver series. I'm glad 
to say that I on;y paid $12 USD for the Quadro card on eBay.


What color depth?
My card is an air-cooled

*Arrowing* down that page definitely isn't as fast as arrowing down 
a Slashdot page, but I'd attribute that to the page's extra 
complexity and the page down or grab the slider bar and not think a 
2nd thought about it.


While Googling and reading, I found this app:
http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=main
http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download

Here are my results:
$ gtkperf -c 1000
GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Mon Aug 11 03:26:13 2008

GtkEntry - time:  0.85
GtkComboBox - time: 17.38
GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 16.19
GtkSpinButton - time:  3.29
GtkProgressBar - time:  1.05
GtkToggleButton - time:  6.07
GtkCheckButton - time:  5.89
GtkRadioButton - time:  7.17
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 35.38
GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 21.56
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  4.51
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  5.38
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  6.89
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  2.07
 ---
Total time: 133.68

Hardware

Athlon 64 X2 4000+ 2GB RAM
GeForce 7300SE (G72) 128MB, 1280x1024x16

Software

X.org1:7.3
Nvidia   173.14.05
libgtk2.0-0  2.12.11-3
gnome-core   2.22.2~4
metacity 1:2.22.0-1

Note this screen print from 3.5 years ago.  Even factoring in that 
it did an order of magnitude fewer test cycles, it still seems 
faster than my card.

http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/images/sc_main.png

I picked up a lower end ATI 3650 after doing some reading online. Didn't 
realize AMD/ATI were releasing specs to the open source developers, with 
Novell even writing drivers on AMD's behalf.


I'm loyal to the company that supported Linux when no other video 
card did.  But their newer cards just don't seem to do so well under 
Linux.


There's a good possibility that my next card will be ATI.

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Re: OFERTA COLABORARE

2008-08-11 Thread dragos prodan
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Re: OFERTA COLABORARE

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Re: Debian Sid first time user

2008-08-11 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 18:33:12 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

[...]

 But, two more questions:
 
 the mozilla-browser package is not there in Debian Sid.  How can I know what
 its equivalent is?

Running apt-cache search mozilla browser finds, among other things,
the iceape package. apt-cache show iceape tells you that it is a
meta-package depending on iceape-browser and iceape-mailnews,
recommending iceape-chatzilla, and suggesting iceape-calendar. These
are the packages for the different components; if you only want the
browser then you need iceape-browser.

 I thought there were only Debian Stable, Testing and Unstable; but now I see
 also `experimental'.  What's that?

Sid normally has the newest released versions of software, or at least
reasonably usable release-candidate versions. A package in
experimental can be anything from a very usable development snapshot
(with new features) to something that is completely useless if you are
not a developer working on that program/driver.

During (or even before) a pre-release freeze, experimental can
furthermore act as the repository for new versions of packages that
cannot go into unstable because a previous version is meant to be
released with the next stable. Examples for this are the KDE 4.*
packages: The 4.0 versions were really experimental but the 4.1 ones
seem to be quite OK and could in principle enter Sid. However, they have
to be kept out of Sid until after the release of Lenny (except for
certain KDE/Qt 4.* development tools and libraries), so they stay in
experimental.

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Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 11:40:06PM +0300, Shachar Or wrote:
 Hi.
 
 why doesn't aptitude show me for what purpose a package reccomends or 
 suggests 
 another?
 
 I'd very much like that because sometimes, perhaps many times, I can't guess 
 it and even if I can guess it, how do I know?
 
 I find that many times README.Debian doesn't mention those things.
 
 Any thoughts about this?

Yeah, why does podracer _depend_ on screen? I'd even be skeptical if it
was a suggests. Since recommends are now installed automatically and
recommends are considered a weak depends anyway, if you turn set install
recommends to false you could end up with non-working features.

If you find any packages where the recommends should obviously be a
suggests, please file a bug.

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:46:51PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Sat,09.Aug.08, 17:04:47, Ron Johnson wrote:
  I put this at the bottom of my family members' .bashrc files.  Works like 
  a charm.
 
  if [ $TERM == linux ]; then
   startx
   exit
  fi
 
 If I try to run startx with X already active I get:
 
 Fatal server error:
 Server is already active for display 0
   If this server is no longer running remove /tmp/.X0-lock
   and try again
 
 And eventually it will return the prompt. I think most cases will be 
 covered by something like:
 
 ,
 | if [ $TERM = linux ]; then
..cough..^


 | if [ ! -f /tmp/X0-lock ]; then
 | startx
 | exit
 | fi
 | fi
 `


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System copy

2008-08-11 Thread darren naidoo
Hi i want to do a system copy of my main partition to dvd and must be bootable. 
Using deb 4.0r3. Have 3 primary parts and 2 logicals. Whats commands can i use?

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Re: can't configure networking for static IP address

2008-08-11 Thread s. keeling
Vwaju [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Given that this server is just a lab project (with no critical data),
  what's the worst that could happen?

Perhaps some smart Russian/Chinese/... finds it and turns it into a
bot master, or starts attacking DoD systems with it, or turns it into
a clandestine p2p site bringing the MafiAA down on you.  Have fun.


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State of 64bit desktop

2008-08-11 Thread kj

Hi guys,

At work I'm starting to push the limits of my RAM with MySQL/InnoDB on 
my workstation (I do dev/testing on my workstation).  I have 64bit 
hardware, capable of taking 8gb memory.


What I'm worried about is the tools I use.  In particular, I need a 
browser with all the usual suspects working properly: flash and java 
(unfortunately some of the tools I need to use at work are written in 
these abominable languages).  Does anyone do heavy java and flash usage 
under 64bit Debian (I'm running Lenny)?  One tool in particular I'm 
forced to use is the Raritan KVM interface.  It's horrible.


Is this move viable or should I rather invest in a second box (won't 
come for free).  I don't want to mess around with 32bit chroots - did 
that before and I didn't like it one bit.


Thanks
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Re: System copy

2008-08-11 Thread Shachar Or
On Monday 11 August 2008 16:22, darren naidoo wrote:
 Hi i want to do a system copy of my main partition to dvd and must be
 bootable. Using deb 4.0r3. Have 3 primary parts and 2 logicals. Whats
 commands can i use?

What is the purpose of this, backup? I am asking because I don't understand 
what you mean by it must being bootable.

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Re: alsa drivers

2008-08-11 Thread peasthope
Nigel and hopefully a few others,

At Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:43:42 +0200 Nigel Henry wrote,
Did you try adding the 3 lines that I suggested to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base? 
It would be nice to find out if the C-Media device is actually causing 
snd-hda-intel to load, thus causing the conflict when booting with the usb 
device plugged in.

Yes, the three lines have the same effect as keeping the 
USB sound device unplugged until on-board sound is 
initialized.  Problem solved.  Thanks!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tail --lines=5 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
# These specify the card indices.
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
options snd-usb-audio index=1
options snd-hda-intel index=2

At Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:43:42 +0200
nh This is normal from a long time back, ...

Odd that the developers and maintainers have 
ignored this problem for so long.  The on-board 
device should not have to be card0 to work.
Arbitrary and superfluous constraints on order 
of device initialization are contrary to the 
intention of USB and udev.

Thanks for all the help.  I hate to think of 
sorting this out without the ideas and guidance.

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Nvidia's Poor 2D performance. Was: Re: Slow video[SOLVED]

2008-08-11 Thread Nick Lidakis

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 08/11/08 01:01, Nick Lidakis wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/12/08 02:00, Nick Lidakis wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:


The inner scroll region?  No sluggishness or slowdown.  Noticeable
CPU usage by /usr/bin/X11/X when I rapidly jerk the scroll bar up
and down, but that's normal.

   Are ya 
using

the NV or Nvidia driver?

Sorry.  The nvidia driver.


I forgot to ask if you were running a high resolution monitor, perhaps
1600x1200 or greater? Are you running any of the 3d accelerated 
desktop,

or regular 2d window manager?


A y2k-vintage Gateway VX1120 (Hitachi Diamondtron flat-screen CRT)
at 1280x1024 with GNOME  Metacity.  (I see no reason to waste
resources on eye candy.)


Tonight I tried the sluggish website I mentioned in an earlier post 
(http://www.tempus-vivit.net/taverne/thema/935), but at a 1280x1024 
resolution. Better, still sluggish, but not the molasses that 
1600x1200 was. Dropping down to 1024x768, things were very snappy and 
the sluggishness was completely gone.


I'm giving up on the Nvdia cards. Seems I'm not the only one having 
serious issues with 2D support with their latest driver series. I'm 
glad to say that I on;y paid $12 USD for the Quadro card on eBay.


What color depth?
My card is an air-cooled

*Arrowing* down that page definitely isn't as fast as arrowing down a 
Slashdot page, but I'd attribute that to the page's extra complexity and 
the page down or grab the slider bar and not think a 2nd thought about it.


While Googling and reading, I found this app:
http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=main
http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download

Here are my results:
$ gtkperf -c 1000
GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Mon Aug 11 03:26:13 2008

GtkEntry - time:  0.85
GtkComboBox - time: 17.38
GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 16.19
GtkSpinButton - time:  3.29
GtkProgressBar - time:  1.05
GtkToggleButton - time:  6.07
GtkCheckButton - time:  5.89
GtkRadioButton - time:  7.17
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 35.38
GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 21.56
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  4.51
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  5.38
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  6.89
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  2.07
 ---
Total time: 133.68

Hardware

Athlon 64 X2 4000+ 2GB RAM
GeForce 7300SE (G72) 128MB, 1280x1024x16

Software

X.org1:7.3
Nvidia   173.14.05
libgtk2.0-0  2.12.11-3
gnome-core   2.22.2~4
metacity 1:2.22.0-1

Note this screen print from 3.5 years ago.  Even factoring in that it 
did an order of magnitude fewer test cycles, it still seems faster than 
my card.

http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/images/sc_main.png

I picked up a lower end ATI 3650 after doing some reading online. 
Didn't realize AMD/ATI were releasing specs to the open source 
developers, with Novell even writing drivers on AMD's behalf.


I'm loyal to the company that supported Linux when no other video card 
did.  But their newer cards just don't seem to do so well under Linux.


There's a good possibility that my next card will be ATI.


Thanks for that link. I downloaded the deb.

Hardware:
ASUS A8n-SLI Premium w/ X2 4800+
2GB Ram
Quadro NVS 285 PCIe 1600x1200
eVga 7800GTX 512 PCIe 1600x1200

Software:
Debian Sid
libgtk2.0-0  2.12.11-3
Debian's Nvidia 173.14.09 built w/ module assistant
Xorg 7.3
Openbox  3.4.7.2-3
mxrvt

I normally run 1600x1200 at 24 bit color depth. I ran several tests.

Gtkperf at 1600x1200 and 16 bit color depth:


GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Mon Aug 11 10:44:47 2008

GtkEntry - time:  0.66
GtkComboBox - time: 15.16
GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 12.89
GtkSpinButton - time:  2.65
GtkProgressBar - time:  1.57
GtkToggleButton - time:  6.21
GtkCheckButton - time:  5.00
GtkRadioButton - time:  6.43
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 24.04
GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 19.70
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  3.62
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  3.07
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  5.22
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  3.60
 ---
Total time: 109.83

Gtkperf at 1600x1200 and 24 bit color depth:

GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Mon Aug 11 11:10:52 2008

GtkEntry - time:  0.44
GtkComboBox - time: 14.57
GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 14.14
GtkSpinButton - time:  2.19
GtkProgressBar - time:  1.76
GtkToggleButton - time:  6.07
GtkCheckButton - time:  5.01
GtkRadioButton - time:  6.53
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 24.20
GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 19.43
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  3.74
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  3.26
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  4.32
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  3.60
 ---
Total time: 109.28

I also had to stop using Xfce-Terminal.  Resizing the terminal window 
took at least 3-4 seconds and made X slow to a crawl. No such issues on 
the the Thinkpad with GMA graphics.


I also tried a fresh install of Debian Sid on a spare hard disk, built 
the NVIDIA driver with module assistant, and kept things to a graphical 
minimum, i.e, solid colored root window, simple default 

Re: VGA modes for the supported resolutions

2008-08-11 Thread peasthope
Andrei,

ap $ grep kqemu /etc/modprobe.d/00local
#options kqemu major=0
   ...
...list kqemu in /etc/modules ...

Good.  Thanks!  kqemu works now.

I still have this message about SDL.

newton:~# qemu -m 40 -hda /dev/sda -cdrom /home/peter/AosCD.iso -boot d
Could not open SDL display
newton:~# 

libsdl1.2debian-all is installed but man sdl
and man libsdl yield nothing.  Any tips on 
making SDL work?

Thanks, ... Peter E.


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Re: VGA modes for the supported resolutions

2008-08-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,11.Aug.08, 08:42:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andrei,
 
 ap $ grep kqemu /etc/modprobe.d/00local
 #options kqemu major=0
...
 ...list kqemu in /etc/modules ...
 
 Good.  Thanks!  kqemu works now.
 
 I still have this message about SDL.
 
 newton:~# qemu -m 40 -hda /dev/sda -cdrom /home/peter/AosCD.iso -boot d
 Could not open SDL display
 newton:~# 
 
 libsdl1.2debian-all is installed but man sdl
 and man libsdl yield nothing.  Any tips on 
 making SDL work?
 
I vaguely recall an issue with my mouse related to SDL (which is why I 
eventually dropped qemu in favor of virtualbox-ose). Try the qemu docs.

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,12.Aug.08, 00:15:10, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  ,
  | if [ $TERM = linux ]; then
 ..cough..^
 
Typo (all my self-made scripts are #!/bin/sh, where 'sh' points to 
'dash').

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: network card problem

2008-08-11 Thread catbugs
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:34:02 +0200
Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[.. half a book deleted that aimed to help Ahmed on the wrong list ..]

But smart as cookies like Erich are, the main reason for the posting
as follows:

 Please ignore the post by Luipher Fhang. This is not even his real
 name (for example he is also using the name Bruno Brandris these
 days), he is just a so called troll trying to provoke people. He is
 not to be taken serious, but should just be ignored:

More than just ironic, when the same people give talks about how to
increase your privacy and security by using GPG, TOR, etc.

And when multiple Debian Developers are to be seen as untrustable,
please disclose to the public, what advice do you give to users who
are aware of privacy and security related problems?

Defacing all people who voice critical aspects of the Debian project
will backfire in the long run. Most people will understand context 
and motivations why some are pushed into the role of a black sheep.

And those who happily buy gossip and defacements can keep checking
MD5sums and GPG signatures to fix the problem of trust on the wrong
end.


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Re: [Debian-User] Debian + non ose virtualBox

2008-08-11 Thread Wackojacko

Javier Vasquez wrote:

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Nyizsnyik Ferenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:06:20 -0600
Javier Vasquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

I installed the non ose virtualBox, and I got a XP image running under
it with bridged ethernet.  However I haven't been able to get USB
working on the guest, neither shared folders...

I've searched with google, and found several suggestions (often about
the permissions of the usbfs devices), and I tried almost everything
unsuccessfully (most suggestions for ubuntu btw), + I also read the
user Manual.  Is there a debian guide to get USB and share directory
working...

Thanks,


Have you installed Virtualbox Guest Additions in the guest OS (win xp)?

--
Nyizsa.



Yes I did.  I can see in the devices tab of virtualbox the usb
devices, but they're always grayed...  I also included filters
(automatically picked BTW by virtualbox), but that doesn't help a
thing.  And for the shared folders, I see in the shared folders tab as
well the directory, but when I go in the guest to the network places,
and go into VirtualBox shared folders, there's nothing...  I'm not
sure if there's something that needs explicetely to be done, but if
there is, I just can't find it, :(...

Thanks,



I had a similar problem and google led me to the same conclusions re 
usbfs without much luck.  Debian seems to mount usbfs as standard (check 
with #mount).


The solution for me was the Guest Additions was not installed in the 
Guest OS.  So just to make sure have you checked to see if the icon is 
displayed in the taskbar in the guest OS.  Can you seamlessly use your 
mouse in the guest display or do you have to click r-ctrl?  Sorry to 
repeat the same advice as previous poster but this really was the 
solution for me!


HTH

Wackojacko


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RE: USB to IDE Interfaces

2008-08-11 Thread Stackpole, Chris
 From: Martin McCormick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: USB to IDE Interfaces
 
 I want to be able to connect various IDE drives to a Linux
 system via USB port for backups, restores, and diagnostics such
 as: Is this drive good for anything other than a paper weight?
 
   I'd hate to buy an interface and find out I need some
 special driver that only exists under Windows.
 
   I have used dedicated USB devices that had IDE drives in
 them and they worked fine all be it slo-o-owly on a USB2 port,
 but this would be  different because each IDE drive is going to
 be formatted differently and be anywhere from gigabytes to 40
 megabytes in capacity.
 
   If I understand things right, the IDE drive itself
 registers its parameters so this may not be an issue and the
 device should respond to mount, dd, and fdisk like any other
 device.
 
   I am hoping to upgrade the IDE drives on some older
 Linux systems from 10 GB to larger and use the USB to IDE
 converter to assist in transfering files and using the still
 functional smaller drives as archival storage.
 
   Any ideas and recommendations as to which interfaces are
 good or which should be avoided are appreciated.
 
   Thank you.
 
 Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
 Systems Engineer
 OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services
Group
 

I have one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002

It works rather well over all. I have not had any problems with IDE, the
laptop IDE, or the SATA connections nor any problems with it not
recognizing drives that I know work. Granted, I don't really push the
limits of it; it is just there when I do have a drive I need to look at
the contents and I don't want to reboot the system. It gets light usage.

I only really have 2 complaints about it.
1) When you plug it into a Debian Lenny (haven't really tested it on
much else) it displays just like my USB thumbdrives do. Every once in a
while though, when you unmount and disconnect the device, HAL freaks
out. Then other USB thumbdrives and things no longer automount. HAL has
to be reset. I haven't looked in a couple of months, but I did find a
bug report back when I did look. I don't think I have seen this problem
in the last couple of weeks, but I haven't really used it much recently
either.

2) I can't find any of the USB devices that will work with SmartMonTools
or anything else that tries to connect to the hard drive itself. In
order to do that you need one that has the cypress chipset. There are
some out there supposedly, but I haven't ever found one for purchase...

For more details see here:
http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/faq.html#testinghelp

To answer your questions directly, the Newegg link will work at least in
the current Debian Lenny for backup and restores without any special
drivers. You may find that your diagnostics don't work. I don't have an
answer for you on that as I have not been able to find one myself.

The only group of devices I recommend you stay far away from are the
ones that supply power /only/ via USB. I have tried 2 of them and they
both had 2 USB plugs, one for power and one for data. They seemed to
work perfectly on the laptop drives, but neither of them seemed to
function when connected to a standard IDE. I did not test SATA on those.
The others I have tried, including the one linked above, have separate
power for the drives.

Good Luck!
Have Fun!

~S~


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RE: State of 64bit desktop

2008-08-11 Thread Stackpole, Chris
 From: kj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: State of 64bit desktop
 
 Hi guys,
 
 At work I'm starting to push the limits of my RAM with MySQL/InnoDB on
 my workstation (I do dev/testing on my workstation).  I have 64bit
 hardware, capable of taking 8gb memory.
 
 What I'm worried about is the tools I use.  In particular, I need a
 browser with all the usual suspects working properly: flash and java
 (unfortunately some of the tools I need to use at work are written in
 these abominable languages).  Does anyone do heavy java and flash
usage
 under 64bit Debian (I'm running Lenny)?  One tool in particular I'm
 forced to use is the Raritan KVM interface.  It's horrible.
 
 Is this move viable or should I rather invest in a second box (won't
 come for free).  I don't want to mess around with 32bit chroots - did
 that before and I didn't like it one bit.
 
 Thanks
 --kj

Fraid that this might be a mileage may vary type of question...

Here is my 2 cents though.

I had horrible problems with Debian Etch and 64bit. 64bit Debian Lenny
has been /brilliant/ but I have only worked with server class
testing/development; I have not had a chance to test Lenny on a Desktop
64bit system. One guy I know does use a 64bit Desktop with Java/flash
but that is with Ubuntu Hardy so I don't know how great the difference
will be for you.

My personal suggestion, if you can do it, would be to give it a shot and
then report what you find back to the Debian Dev team before Lenny goes
stable. It would probably help them out quite a bit and help generate
more interest in the 64bit world. Of course not everyone has the
time/ability to do that* and if you are one of those people then my
suggestion would be to wait till Lenny is released and ask again. At the
very least, I should be able to respond**.


Have fun!
~S~

*Unfortunately, I have to raise my hand here...for now at least. I keep
hoping for some spare time. :-(

**We have an upgrade path planned to move a bunch of production systems
to 64bit once Lenny goes stable. As we do that I have a development
desktop system that is 64bit capable (currently running 32bit Debian)
that I can at least tell you how it works out for me. Just give me a
couple weeks for migration. :-D


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Re: State of 64bit desktop

2008-08-11 Thread Shachar Or
On Monday 11 August 2008 17:47, kj wrote:
 Hi guys,

 At work I'm starting to push the limits of my RAM with MySQL/InnoDB on
 my workstation (I do dev/testing on my workstation).  I have 64bit
 hardware, capable of taking 8gb memory.

 What I'm worried about is the tools I use.  In particular, I need a
 browser with all the usual suspects working properly: flash and java
 (unfortunately some of the tools I need to use at work are written in
 these abominable languages).  Does anyone do heavy java and flash usage
 under 64bit Debian (I'm running Lenny)?  One tool in particular I'm
 forced to use is the Raritan KVM interface.  It's horrible.

 Is this move viable or should I rather invest in a second box (won't
 come for free).  I don't want to mess around with 32bit chroots - did
 that before and I didn't like it one bit.

No problem with flashplugin-nonfree here in amd64 etch except flash except 
nspluginwrapper takes a whole lot more cpu than I would like it to.

 Thanks
 --kj

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