Re: Sound - none happening.......

[Charlie]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:14:25 +0100 Florian Kulzer
 shared this with us all:

>On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 22:55:51 +1100, Charlie wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:23:01 +0100 Florian Kulzer shared this with
>> us all:
>> >On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it
>> >> working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going
>> >> again:
>> >> 
>> >> Acer 3614WLCi laptop
>> >> 
>> >> $ lspci | grep -i audio
>> >> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation
>> >> 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev
>> >> 03)
>> >
>> >[ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ]
>> >
>> >> $ cat   /proc/asound/cards
>> >>  0 [ICH6   ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6
>> >>   Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21
>> >>  1 [pcsp   ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp
>> >>   Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61
>> >>  2 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem
>> >>   Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21
>
>[...]
>
>> speaker-test -t sine -c 2
>> 
>> speaker-test 1.0.21
>> 
>> Playback device is default
>> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
>> Sine wave rate is 440.Hz
>> Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
>> Buffer size range from 2048 to 8192
>> Period size range from 1024 to 1024
>> Using max buffer size 8192
>> Periods = 4
>> was set period_size = 1024
>> was set buffer_size = 8192
>>  0 - Front Left
>>  1 - Front Right
>> Time per period = 5.822096
>> 
>> This goes on until I kill it but no sound.
>
>The system acts as if everything is alright, so you do not have a
>problem with some daemon blocking access to the device.
>
>Time to look at the mixer settings; please post the output of:
>
>aplay -lL
>
>amixer

Thanks Florian,

Here it is:


aplay -lL

default:CARD=ICH6
Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0
Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0
Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0
Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0
Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0
Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
iec958:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0
Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 - IEC958
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default:CARD=pcsp
pcsp, pcsp
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=pcsp,DEV=0
pcsp, pcsp
Front speakers
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 -
IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: pcsp [pcsp], device 0: pcspeaker [pcsp]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Modem [Intel ICH6 Modem], device 0: Intel ICH - Modem [Intel
ICH6 Modem - Modem] Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


amixer

Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-12.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-12.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Surround Jack Mode',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Shared' 'Independent'
  Item0: 'Shared'
Simple mixer control 'Center',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'LFE',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capt

Re: Re: No GNOME system sounds in Squeeze

[Jasper]

FYI, this is a copy of the "README" that comes with Esound in Etch, it's
date on my computer is june 2005 :




Esound is an audio mixing server that allows multiple
applications to output sound to the same audio device.
Development on Esound stopped several years ago, in the
hope that someone would write a replacement.  Esound is
seriously lacking in features required for a modern
desktop environment, particularly for multi-channel
audio and audio/video synchronization.  However, it is
part of the GNOME platform (for a little while longer),
so we slavishly continue to maintain it.

Bugs should be reported at http://bugzilla.gnome.org.
It's unlikely that they'll be fixed unless they're
regressions from recent versions or accompanied by
patches.



  --ds




Something should change, but 

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

[Wayne]

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne  wrote:

Your right.  I didn't check all of the various depend's.  I just
pointed it out to Sabastian.  If your running wicd in Sid maybe you
have an idea 'why' it isn't running then.


Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are
consistent ("apt-get install -f" signals no errors) and that
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists.


I was not having problems with wicd.  I was helping the other fellow 
that had problems when he tried installing wicd from sid.



FYI, on my machine:


Interesting.  Of course if we knew which dist and version you were 
running, it might have helped him, as it is I think the new 1.7.2 
version is working for both of us now.


Thanks anyway.


xvii:~> dlocate logfile.py
python-wicd: /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py
xvii:~> locate logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyo
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py

/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.*/wicd/logfile.py* are probably needed
and built by a postinstall script. If you don't have such a file
corresponding to the installed python versions, that may be a bug
in some python-related package.



Wicd verion 1.7.2 just migrated to testing.  It no longer uses 
python-wicd.  I was not using it, python-wicd, when I ran 1.6, either.


Wayne


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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2010-01-29 20:46:48 -0500, Wayne  wrote:
> Your right.  I didn't check all of the various depend's.  I just
> pointed it out to Sabastian.  If your running wicd in Sid maybe you
> have an idea 'why' it isn't running then.

Sorry, I have no idea. Check that your installed packages are
consistent ("apt-get install -f" signals no errors) and that
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py exists.

FYI, on my machine:

xvii:~> dlocate logfile.py
python-wicd: /usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py
xvii:~> locate logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/wicd/logfile.pyo
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.py
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/wicd/logfile.pyc
/usr/share/pyshared/wicd/logfile.py

/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.*/wicd/logfile.py* are probably needed
and built by a postinstall script. If you don't have such a file
corresponding to the installed python versions, that may be a bug
in some python-related package.

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Getting Google Sketchup to work under Wine?

[Marc Shapiro]

Sketchup is supposed to run under wine, but I'm not having any luck.  I 
downloaded the file (GoogleSketchUpWEN.exe) and ran:


wine GoogleSketchUpWEN.exe

I also tried copying the file to wine's drive_c and running it from 
there, but the results are the same.


The installer starts up and gets through extracting the files.  Then it 
tries to 'Evaluate Launch Conditions' at which point it says the my OS 
is not supported and terminates unsuccessfully.


I am running Lenny, BTW.  Has anyone gotten Sketchup to work under Wine 
on Lenny?  Alternatively, is there any other 3d drawing utility that 
runs under Linux that I could use?  I don't need anything real fancy, 
just enough to design a simple woodworking project.  My daughter wants 
to design a loft bed, so we are just talking straight lines here. 
Wire-frame, or solid is OK.


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Re: Realtek r8168 problems with net installer and Intel D945GSEJT motherboard

[Jan Piet Joris en Corneel]

> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 21:41:28 +0100, Jan Piet Joris en Corneel wrote:
>> 2010/1/31 Tony:
>> > Not sure it helps you but Squeeze installs fine on this motherboard.
>> Thanks, but I want Stable, not Testing.
>>
>> 2010/1/31 Florian Kulzer:
>> > The first thing I would try is one of Kenshi Muto's customized debian
>> > installer images with backported newer kernels and therefore better
>> > support for newer hardware:
>> >
>> > http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
>> >
>> > (I have not checked anything for your particular NIC, therefore I cannot
>> >  say how likely it is that the d-i with the newer kernel will work.)
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. It didn't work, the installer keeps saying
>> it has no drivers for the NIC, asks me for a external source I don't
>> have.
>
> What exactly is the vendor and the device ID of this NIC? (check the
> output of "lspci -nn")
>
> The only Realtek 8168 that I can find in /usr/share/misc/pci.ids has
> [10ec:8168] and is listed in my modules.alias as being supported by the
> r8169 driver.
>

I'm sorry guys, but I've switched to Ubuntu Server 9.10 Karmic Koala.
Tired of all debian driver problems, and a ubuntu live usb disc
running without problems I decided to switch.



As far as I've understood now the issue has to do with kernel
versions. Debian Lenny has 2.6.26, Lenny-backports 2.6.30 and the
netinst images of Kenshi Muto currently 2.6.32. Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic has
2.6.31.

Installation of that OS wasn't without hassle too. For documentary
reasons the way I did it on the Intel D945GSEJT board. Answer to
Florian Kulzer's questions below.

1. Get yourself a windows XP pc with admin access, an empty USB stick
of at least 1 GB. Format it (you need admin rights to do that).
2. Put Ubuntu on it according to the instructions at Pendrivelinux:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/run-ubuntu-9-10-server-edition-installer-from-usb/.
Make sure to use the windows application
"USB-Installer-For-Ubuntu-910-Server-Edition-v0.2.exe" (server edition
.exe differs from desktop edition .exe available at
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/)
and Ubuntu image "ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso". You cannot use x64
since the Atom N270 processor is 32 bit...
3. unmount and unplug stick from windows computer, put in D945GSEJT
board and boot.
4. select Help > F6.
5. type "install cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" and press enter. This is
needed to bypass the cdrom drive driver not found question which halts
the installer. See
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Known%20Issues.
6. now the installer should run fine (at least it did at my board.
Other hardware used: 1 GB ram and an Kingston Data Traveler G2 4 GB
USB stick to host the new OS. A WD5000BEVT hard drive was inserted too
but only for data storage.

2010/1/31 Florian Kulzer :
> What exactly is the vendor and the device ID of this NIC? (check the
> output of "lspci -nn")
last line of lspci -nn at Karmic Koala shows this:
01:00.0 Ethernet Controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RT8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev
03)

lsmod shows r8169 is loaded after installation of Ubuntu.

> What happens if you try to "modprobe r8169" with the installer? (If I
> remember correctly, you can switch to a command prompt at any time with
> CTRL-ALT-F2.) Also check the output of dmesg after the modprobe.
Did not need to help the installer during installation for the NIC. If
that was necessary, the command should be:
modprobe r8169, which you can run in a second terminal window with Ctrl Alt F2.

Regards,
Corné


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Re: Synchronizing more than one folder/file in Unison, per profile

[Matthew Moore]

On Sunday January 31 2010 11:39:31 am Merciadri Luca wrote:
> Matthew Moore  writes:
> > You can add multiple "path =" settings. For example, your profile would
> > look something like
> >
> > root = 
> > root = 
> >
> > path = /home/myself/Docs
> > path = /home/Docs.txt
> 
> Okay. Nice. However, your example does not work (at least with my
> Unison), as it asks for relative paths (and not absolute). I did not
> know this. Thanks!

They are relative to the root directories. In your case, you would have it as

root = /
root = ssh:

... or something like that. If you only care about syncing targets that are 
anchored in /home/, then you could change your roots to be something else.

MM


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Re: Advanced fsck?

[Javier Barroso]

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:03 AM, hadi motamedi  wrote:
>
>
> 2010/1/28 
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:36:33AM +, hadi motamedi wrote:
>> > Thank you for your reply . Can you please let me know how to check for
>> > the
>> > amount of bad sectors ( I mean some sort of like scan disk on Windows) ?
>> > Thank you
>>
>> fsck.ext3 -c  - do a read-only badblock test
>>
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> Thank you for your reply . I tried as the followings :
> #umount -f -l /dev/hda3
I don't recommend you using -l , unless you are knowing what are you
doing. Use fuser o lsof (with grep) before try -l option.

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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Nuno Magalhães]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 21:35, Merciadri Luca
 wrote:

> Why is the default JRE not installed in a normal install of Debian?

Don't know, and you're highjacking a thread about flash.

+1 on the "flash is not necessary but webdevs seem to rely on it too
much" trend. Functional content (like login screens) should not rely
on flash or javascript, but rather stick to the more common basic
pre-existing standards. Too bad most sites don't gracefully degrade.

My irrelevant 2¢

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Re: Postgres server does not start.

[debuser]

On 2010-01-31 13:43, Sthu Deus wrote:
> 2010-01-31 13:31:03 GMT-7 LOG:  could not bind IPv4 socket: Address already 
> in use
> 2010-01-31 13:31:03 GMT-7 HINT: Is another postmaster already
> running on port 5432? If not, wait a few seconds and retry.
> 2010-01-31 13:31:03 GMT-7 WARNING:  could not create listen socket for 
> "localhost"
> 2010-01-31 13:31:03 GMT-7 FATAL:  could not create any TCP/IP sockets

Most likely the cluster 'main' is already listening on port 5432.  Try
configuring either 'main' or 'mine' to listen on another port, say
5433, by editing the cluster's postgresql.conf.
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Re: No GNOME system sounds in Squeeze

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:21:18 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote:
> I've finally gotten around to trying to enable system sounds in
> GNOME under Squeeze, and I can't seem to get it to work.

I kept searching the Internet and I eventually found this item:

   http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46786

I didn't like what I read, but at least it's an explanation
(and a partial solution).

I've de-installed gnome-audio and installed freedesktop-sound-theme
and gnome-session-canberra.  I now have at least "alert" sounds
working.  Startup and shutdown sounds still don't work.  The ESD
still isn't running either.  And I don't have pulseaudio installed.
I wonder if GNOME now directs system sounds directly to
ALSA.  And I wonder if ALSA finally enables software sound mixing
(again) by default on audio chipsets that don't support hardware sound
mixing.  Wouldn't that be nice!

If anyone has any insights on this, please let me know.  Otherwise,
I'll assume that it's just broken and I'll wait for them to fix it.


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Merciadri Luca]

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The answer to my last question seems to be `NO', which confirms my
thoughts: at http://wiki.debian.org/Java, it is clearly said:

==
To install the default JRE on your system, run :

apt-get install default-jre
==

Why is the default JRE not installed in a normal install of Debian?
 default-jre' is, at least according to
 
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=default-jre&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all,
 available for many archs, and is the `Standard Java or Java compatible 
Runtime'!

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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Merciadri Luca]

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Celejar  writes:

>> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact 
>> that for todays browsing is a "must have".
>
> Disagree.  I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash.
> It's easy enough to download YouTube video using youtube-dl or clive /
> cclive, and the only sites that seem to really require Flash are flashy
> game or advertisement sites, which I can generally do without.  I don't
> deny that Flash can be useful, but I wouldn't call it a "must have".
Your config is not one of the most standard, isn't it?

Flash is, for me, not a _must have_ (as explained by the other posts),
but including ``facilities'' for it in Debian would be really
necessary: something like 90% of the users must encounter the same
problem as me, and, despite having a nice documentation, Debian is
here lacking something. (I really like Debian and I would not use
another distro, but this is something from my personal point of view.)

I had also problems for Java and related apps. Is default-jre already
installed with a default install of Debian?

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Re: Realtek r8168 problems with net installer and Intel D945GSEJT motherboard

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 21:41:28 +0100, Jan Piet Joris en Corneel wrote:
> 2010/1/31 Tony:
> > Not sure it helps you but Squeeze installs fine on this motherboard.
> Thanks, but I want Stable, not Testing.
> 
> 2010/1/31 Florian Kulzer:
> > The first thing I would try is one of Kenshi Muto's customized debian
> > installer images with backported newer kernels and therefore better
> > support for newer hardware:
> >
> > http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
> >
> > (I have not checked anything for your particular NIC, therefore I cannot
> >  say how likely it is that the d-i with the newer kernel will work.)
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. It didn't work, the installer keeps saying
> it has no drivers for the NIC, asks me for a external source I don't
> have.

What exactly is the vendor and the device ID of this NIC? (check the
output of "lspci -nn")

The only Realtek 8168 that I can find in /usr/share/misc/pci.ids has
[10ec:8168] and is listed in my modules.alias as being supported by the
r8169 driver.

What happens if you try to "modprobe r8169" with the installer? (If I
remember correctly, you can switch to a command prompt at any time with
CTRL-ALT-F2.) Also check the output of dmesg after the modprobe.

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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Angus Hedger]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <
edua...@kalinowski.com.br> wrote:

> On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>
>> Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for
>> validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to
>> call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action
>> script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with
>> them.
>>
>>
>
> The Flashblock extension is great to allow these flash's to be displayed,
> while blocking all the other annoying animated ads.
>
>
>  Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-)
>>
>>
>
> But 99% of them are unnecessary, the same effect could be achived with
> plain old HTML. The end result might be more boring, but just as
> informational/useful.
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Unfortunately to often websites feel more about style over substance, if I
wanted overly shiny jumping and flashing stuff allover my screen I would use
OSX or KDE ;)

And it doesn't help that flash sucks up ram like no ones business.

Regards,

Angus.

Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote:

Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for
validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to
call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action
script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with
them.
   


The Flashblock extension is great to allow these flash's to be 
displayed, while blocking all the other annoying animated ads.



Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-)
   


But 99% of them are unnecessary, the same effect could be achived with 
plain old HTML. The end result might be more boring, but just as 
informational/useful.


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Celejar]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:10:28 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact
> >> that for todays browsing is a "must have".
> > 
> > Disagree.  I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. It's
> > easy enough to download YouTube video using youtube-dl or clive /
> > cclive, and the only sites that seem to really require Flash are flashy
> > game or advertisement sites, which I can generally do without.  I don't
> > deny that Flash can be useful, but I wouldn't call it a "must have".
> 
> Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for 
> validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to 
> call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action 
> script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with 
> them.
> 
> Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-)

Understood, but my point stands: I do most of my browsing without Flash
enabled, and don't seem to suffer much for it.

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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC) Camaleón 
> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact
>> that for todays browsing is a "must have".
> 
> Disagree.  I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. It's
> easy enough to download YouTube video using youtube-dl or clive /
> cclive, and the only sites that seem to really require Flash are flashy
> game or advertisement sites, which I can generally do without.  I don't
> deny that Flash can be useful, but I wouldn't call it a "must have".

Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for 
validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to 
call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action 
script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with 
them.

Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-)

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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Celejar]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

...

> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact 
> that for todays browsing is a "must have".

Disagree.  I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash.
It's easy enough to download YouTube video using youtube-dl or clive /
cclive, and the only sites that seem to really require Flash are flashy
game or advertisement sites, which I can generally do without.  I don't
deny that Flash can be useful, but I wouldn't call it a "must have".

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Re: Realtek r8168 problems with net installer and Intel D945GSEJT motherboard

[Jan Piet Joris en Corneel]

2010/1/31 Tony :
> Not sure it helps you but Squeeze installs fine on this motherboard.
Thanks, but I want Stable, not Testing.

2010/1/31 Florian Kulzer :
> The first thing I would try is one of Kenshi Muto's customized debian
> installer images with backported newer kernels and therefore better
> support for newer hardware:
>
> http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
>
> (I have not checked anything for your particular NIC, therefore I cannot
>  say how likely it is that the d-i with the newer kernel will work.)

Thanks for the suggestion. It didn't work, the installer keeps saying
it has no drivers for the NIC, asks me for a external source I don't
have.

Other thing I don't understand is why the system asks for a CD-rom
source. The system doesn't have a CD-rom drive, I want to install from
USB & internet.

I also tried two 3com PCI NICs I had available in the PCI slot
(3C900B-TPO and 3C905B-TX) but it fails. I managed to get a 3C905B up
& running in my previous Lenny home server years ago (Compaq pentium 2
and it still runs), but I don't remember how. Are those drivers
removed from the current Debian installer?

At the moment the computer is running Ubuntu Desktop 9.10 i386 from
live cd (usb), no problems, I'm actually typing this from that OS.

I've tried installing Ubuntu server 9.10, doesn't work because of
cd-rom drive error (can't find driver). Didn't use Unetbootin but the
tool at 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/run-ubuntu-9-10-server-edition-installer-from-usb/.
Also tried Ubuntu desktop
(http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/)
and I can install from the booted live disc, but I don't want all GUI
stuff to install and cannot find the option to select the software I
want.

Any suggestions? I've used testing in the past, but switched to stable
at the moment Lenny was released to have less maintenance.

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Re: Please help me understand APT pinning...

[Michael Goetze]

Hi Boyd,

I think in both these cases you are being bit by having APT::Default-Release 
"testing" in /etc/apt/apt.conf(.d).  The relevant quote from man 5 
apt_preferences is "The target release can be set on the apt-get command line  
or in the APT configuration file /etc/apt/apt.conf. Note that this has 
precedence over any general priority you set in the /etc/apt/preferences file 
described later, but not over specifically pinned packages."


thanks for the pointer, which has enabled me to solve my problem.

Regards,
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Re: How To determine the date the system & packages were installed.

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:37:14 -0500 (EST), Jochen Schulz wrote:
> Sorry, english is not my first language. What I meant was that when my
> root partition was formatted, my local time only differed from UTC by
> one hour.

Oh.  What I thought you meant was "If I assume that the time value
reported on the screen is UTC, and I convert it to my local time,
it only differs from the time I actually did my install by one hour."
Now perhaps you understand the reference to Daylight Saving Time,
and how that might account for the difference.

Actually your English is quite good compared to some of the posts I've
seen.  Some of them are so bad I literally cannot figure out what
they are trying to say.  This, on the other hand, is a simple
misunderstanding.


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Re: Realtek r8168 problems with net installer and Intel D945GSEJT motherboard

[Tony]

Not sure it helps you but Squeeze installs fine on this motherboard.

Jan Piet Joris en Corneel wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> 
> For some days I've trying to install Debian Lenny 5.0.3 using an USB
> stick on an intel D945GSEJT motherboard (with Intel Atom N270
> processor, 1 GB RAM and Realtek 8111DL gigabit onboard NIC, new home
> server). I've problems with the NIC because it is not recognised by
> the installer. Thus, the installation cannot continue. I've both tried
> the netinst image and cd image nr 1. I copied them to USB drive with
> UNetbootinst running on Win XP.
> 
> It seems numerous threads exist on this topic on multiple discussion
> platforms, and it all has to do with an unsuitable module in the
> kernel of the installer (and other kernel versions). It is possible to
> install with a different NIC, see
> http://justlinuxguide.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-i-have-installed-debian-linux-on.html.
> Some people report module r8169 (..9, not 8) works partly, however
> this seems to differ from installer to installer version. Apparently
> r8169 is not loaded by default with the 5.0.3 installer.
> 
> Also instructions on compiling the module with the Realtek source code
> are readily available and I can manage that.
> 
> The combinations confuses me. I want to run the installer but it halts
> because it cannot recognise the NIC. If I want to install the NIC
> driver, I need a Debian system. Sounds like a chicken and egg problem
> to me.
> 
> Can somebody supply me instructions to get Lenny installed on this
> board? I really want to get it up & running, Debian performed great
> for five years on my previous home server.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Corné
> 
> 


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Zope2 replacement

[Tony]

For a few years I have been using Zope2 to host websites with static &
dynamic content,  recently also using Silva CMS that sits on top of
Zope2.  It now appears that Zope2 won't be in Squeeze due to dependency
on old Python versions.

I would be interested in suggestions of Python based alternatives that
let me develop dynamic and static content and are likely to receive
continued support from Debian.

Regards

Tony Middleton.


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Re: radeonhd: no acceleration DRI / AGP???

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 01:20, Klistvud  wrote:
> Dne, 31. 01. 2010 03:52:01 je Kelly Clowers napisal(a):
>>
>> AMD has published all 2d and 3d info for r100 through r700 (r800/5xxx is
>> in the pipeline):
>> http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/
>
> I stand corrected. That's like music to my ears.
>
>> DRI2/KMS is theoretically usable with 2.6.32, Mesa 7.7, XServer 1.7 and
>> the latest Radeon (not HD) drivers (possibly with some patches), but
>> anything older is a no go.

I should have said this bit applies to the Radeon HD 3850 and other recent
cards. 3d support for older cards goes much further back.

> Am I to understand that AMD released specs for their cutting-edge cards
> only, or just that the radeon and radeonhd developers don't have time,
> resources or interest in supporting older, obsolete equipment?

No, Radeon has for some time fully supported 2d and 3d for r100 to r500; that
is Radeon 7000 through 9000 series and x300 through x1950. Radeon HD 2xxx
through Radeon HD 4xxx (r600 - r700) have more limited support at this time.
All the specs for these have been released, but even with specs it takes time
to make the drivers.

For really old cards - Rage and Mach - documents have not been freely released,
but 3d support was developed with docs provided to specific developers under
NDA (predating AMD's 100% open attitude).


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:26:31 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> Camaleón writes:
> 
>> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/
>> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other
>> sources.

> Clearly, but it does not make things clearer!

There are some packages that fall in a kind of "limbo". 

One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact 
that for todays browsing is a "must have".

The other one is Java JRE. There is also a free implementation for this 
package (openJDK) but again, some programs/applications work better (in 
some cases, only work) with Sun's Java packages, which are not completely 
"free".

And there are also the graphic cards drivers. The free ones cannot fully 
satisfy the needs that can arise in some environments where closed ones 
are the only alternative. But I better shut up on this matter or I'm 
being exposed to be treated as a troll O:-)

So we (users) have to deal with this situations every day.

But Debian has a very extensive documentation for all of the above:

http://wiki.debian.org/Flash
http://wiki.debian.org/Java
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo

So if in doubt, you can always ask to the list to get more feedback :-)

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Re: Wrong magic bytes -> corrupted file?

[Merciadri Luca]

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Tzafrir Cohen  writes:

> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 07:40:00PM +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> 
>> I am encountering
>> 
>> ==
>> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libwins.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic 
>> bytes at the start.
>> ==
>> 
>> from ldconfig. Everything seems however to work nicely. Some questions
>> naturally arise:
>> 
>> 1. What is the role of libwins.so?
>
> Normally files that are simply .so (without any extra version) under
> */lib/ are symlinks intended for build-time. Maybe this is merely a
> dandling link?
>
> What is the output of:
>
>   ls -l /usr/lib/libwins.so
Not joyful:

==
# ls -l /usr/lib/libwins.so 
ls: cannot access /usr/lib/libwins.so: No such file or directory
==

Is it possible, or must this file have disappeared since last try?


> And then again, you can check the magic directly:
>
>   file /usr/lib/libwins.so
By the same mechanism,

==
# file /usr/lib/libwins.so
/usr/lib/libwins.so: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/libwins.so' (No such file or 
directory)
==

Note that I received this error when installing some packages. (I do
not remember their names, sorry.)

>> 2. Should I simply download libwins.so in BIN from an FTP server, and
>> put it there, to solve the problem?
>
> Is it part of some package? I get no hits for 'apt-file search
> /usr/lib/libwins.so' here (squeeze, amd64).

I do not know. I do not even know its role. I tried googling about it,
but it did not show me anything interesting.

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Re: Synchronizing more than one folder/file in Unison, per profile

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> You can add multiple "path =" settings. For example, your profile would look 
> something like
>
> root = 
> root = 
>
> path = /home/myself/Docs
> path = /home/Docs.txt
Okay. Nice. However, your example does not work (at least with my
Unison), as it asks for relative paths (and not absolute). I did not
know this. Thanks!

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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:55:40 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> 5. Debian's politic sometimes creates problems which could be solved in
>> a really more straightforward way: if it had been in the deps from the
>> beginning, I would not have had to do all of this. Okay, this is `too
>> recent' stuff, but sticking with main packages should not prevent you
>> from viewing a video on Youtube! (I actually quite never use Youtube,
>> but I prefer things working everywhere.)
>
> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/
> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other 
> sources.
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Re: How To determine the date the system & packages were installed.

[Jochen Schulz]

Stephen Powell:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:55:30 -0500 (EST), Jochen Schulz wrote:
>>
>> I guess the time is in UTC. (Only 1 hour off in my case, I don't know
>> about yours.
> 
> Maybe it's not an hour off.

Sorry, english is not my first language. What I meant was that when my
root partition was formatted, my local time only differed from UTC by
one hour.

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Re: wicd fails to start after upgrade

[Wayne]

Sebastian wrote:

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:36PM -0500, Wayne  wrote:


Sebastian wrote:

After the last upgrade wicd fails to start. It also stopped writing it's logs 
and when I call it directly by just entering 'wicd' I get following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py", line 61, in 
   from wicd.logfile import ManagedStdio
ImportError: No module named logfile



<--- snip --->


Yes, I have apt-listbugs installed and working here as well, yet I
can't remember any bugs for wicd coming up before the upgrade - of
course it was late in the night and who knows what I was seeing ;-)

Anyway, I removed unstable from the sources.list and tried removing
and re-installing wicd but I can still only get 1.7.0-2


Yes 'apt-cache policy wicd' will show the packages in every dist you
have in the sources.list, I believe. Here it shows both
testing/unstable.



thanks, 'apt-cache policy wicd' shows
wicd:
  Installed: 1.7.0-2
  Candidate: 1.7.0-2
  Version table:
 *** 1.7.0-2 0
700 http://ftp.ie.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

hmmm... 1.7.0-2 is testing??? And no 1.6...?
Getting more and more confused here... - Any hints


Sebastian

I just finished setting up another testing box with wireless, an
old Netgear WPN311 pci card.  Using the madwifi ath5k modules.

I installed wicd 1.7.0-2 and, after fixing some of my usual typo's,
it is running as good ad the old 1.6 version.

HTH
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Re: remove an HTML tag and all its children from commandline

[T o n g]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:05:46 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:

> $ tidy -q -asxml -utf8 page_07_zh.html | xpath -e
> '//d...@class="advertisement"]'

exactly. Glad that you found both tidy & libxml-xpath-perl, and solve the 
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Re: Please help me understand APT pinning...

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <4b60a4dc.2030...@mgoetze.net>, Michael Goetze wrote:
>I've struggled with this issue for hours and gotten no help from
>Manpages, nor IRC. So if someone could help me and CC me on their reply
>(as I am not subscribed), I would be very grateful.
>
>=== Begin /etc/apt/preferences ===
[...]
>Package: *
>Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages
>Pin-Priority: 400
>
>Package: *
>Pin: origin deb.opera.com
>Pin-Priority: 300
>=== End /etc/apt/preferences ===
>=== Begin output of apt-cache policy ===
>Package files:
[...]
>  990 http://mirror.netcologne.de squeeze/main Packages
>  release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia
>Packages,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
>  origin mirror.netcologne.de
>  990 http://deb.opera.com squeeze/non-free Packages
>  release o=Opera Software ASA,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=The Opera web
>browser,c=non-free
>  origin deb.opera.com
[...]
>=== End output of apt-cache policy ===
>
>As you can see, I failed miserably. The very same method that works fine
>for the grml packages, fails for the debian-multimedia packages. I have
>also tried "l=" instead of "o=", as well as copy&pasting the complete
>release line from the output of apt-cache policy. I have tried using
>double quote characters. I have tried changing the order of grml and
>debian-multimedia in the preferences file. I have run aptitude update or
>apt-get update after every change. Nothing works.

>For Opera, I have not invested quite as much effort, especially since I
>specifically want the "origin" feature, not the "release" feature, to
>work here; however, "release o=Opera Software ASA" also does not work,
>nor does adding double-quotes around "deb.opera.com".

I think in both these cases you are being bit by having APT::Default-Release 
"testing" in /etc/apt/apt.conf(.d).  The relevant quote from man 5 
apt_preferences is "The target release can be set on the apt-get command line  
or in the APT configuration file /etc/apt/apt.conf. Note that this has 
precedence over any general priority you set in the /etc/apt/preferences file 
described later, but not over specifically pinned packages."

Both the repositories you are having problems with use "a=testing" as part of 
their release.
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Re: Please help me understand APT pinning...

[Michael Goetze]

Hi Javier,

> Does help Pin: release o=Unofficial* ?
>
> I don't sure, maybe this is a space character issue ? Did you test 
with quotes ?


Unfortunately, the suggested line doesn't help. As I already wrote:

> I have also tried "l=" instead of "o=", as well as copy&pasting the
> complete release line from the output of apt-cache policy. I have
> tried using double quote characters.

Regards,
Michael

PS Please CC me on replies...


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:05:01 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> On Sun January 31 2010, Camaleón wrote:
>> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/
>> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other
>> sources.
> 
> what about flashplayer-mozilla ?

You mean the one coming from "debian-multimedia" site? It's quite the 
same as Flash Player from Adobe, I guess.

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Re: Please help me understand APT pinning...

[Michael Goetze]

Hi Boyd,

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Any specific questions after that, you can contact me via PM and I also watch 
the list.


I'm sorry to say your answer didn't help me. I thought the questions in 
my original message were already quite specific and demonstrated that I 
had understood the basic principles set forth in your answer. Perhaps 
you could have another look at what I wrote previously and give me some 
more specific advice?


Thanks,
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No GNOME system sounds in Squeeze

[Stephen Powell]

OK, now it's my turn to ask for help.  I've finally gotten around to trying
to enable system sounds in GNOME under Squeeze, and I can't seem to get it
to work.  I've been able to get it to work under Lenny (see my web page
http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/tp600.htm for example), but under Squeeze
it doesn't work.

Basic sound works.  (In other words, the "aplay" utility can be used
to play .wav files just fine.)  But the Squeeze version of GNOME (2.28.2)
appears to be quite different from the Lenny version of GNOME (2.22.3)
with respect to sound configuration.  When I click on
System -> Preferences -> Sound, I see something quite different than what
I see in 2.22.3.  I see a mixer-like window right off the bat, and there
are no "test" buttons.  When I click on the "Sound Theme" tab, everything
is grayed-out.  I can't select anything.  Also, the Enlightened Sound
Daemon is apparently not running, according to "ps aux", even though I
have the esound, esound-clients, and esound-common packages installed.
Nor does there appear to be any startup script in /etc/init.d/ that
would start it.  The gnome-audio package is also installed.  And yes,
I rebooted after installing those packages.

I searched the built-in gnome help, but to no avail.  I searched
wiki.debian.org, but to no avail.  I searched the internet, but found nothing
promising on the first few pages.  Surely there's someone out there
who has gotten GNOME system sounds working under Squeeze.  Any ideas?


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Paul Cartwright]

On Sun January 31 2010, Camaleón wrote:
> It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/
> shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other
> sources.

what about flashplayer-mozilla ?

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Re: Synchronizing more than one folder/file in Unison, per profile

[Matthew Moore]

On Sunday January 31 2010 3:58:10 am Merciadri Luca wrote:
> For example, if I have a profile `Docs', I would like to synchronize
> /home/myself/Docs
> 
> _and_
> 
> /home/Docs.txt
> 
> Is it possible? I tried modifying the related .prf in ~/.unison/, but
> it did not work out.

You can add multiple "path =" settings. For example, your profile would look 
something like

root = 
root = 

path = /home/myself/Docs
path = /home/Docs.txt

MM


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losing xmodmap settings during X startup

[Joey Morris]

I start my X session with startx, and lately I've noticed that some
(but not all) of my .Xmodmap settings are being lost once my X session
is up. I think this behavior started sometime in the past month or two.

I'm using xmodmap to make Caps_Lock key a second Control_L. These are
the contents of my .Xmodmap:

clear Lock
keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L
add Control = Control_L

I'm calling xmodmap in my .xinitrc like this:

USRMODMAP=$HOME/.Xmodmap
if [ -f "$USRMODMAP" ]; then
  /usr/bin/xmodmap $USRMODMAP
fi

Once my X session is up, Caps_Lock is recognized as a second Control_L
(as expected), but it's assigned to the lock modifier instead of the
control modifier. I've edited my .xinitrc to print the modifier map at
various points to demonstrate what's going on:

Before applying .Xmodmap:
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x69)

After applying .Xmodmap (and immediately before executing the window
manager):
lock  
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_L (0x42),  Control_R (0x69)

This is exactly how I want it to look. However, once the window
manager is up and I print the modifier map again, I get this:
lockControl_L (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x69)

What could be moving Control_L (0x42) from control to lock? How can I
prevent it? I'm using the blackbox window manager, but I've also tried
other window managers (awesome, openbox, twm) and saw the same
behavior. I've tried moving .xinitrc to .xsession, and that didn't
help. Using xdm instead of startx does fix the problem, however. This
is on Debian unstable.

In researching this problem, I've seen a few comments that xmodmap is
deprecated. If this is true, what is the replacement? I'd like the
option to apply these settings on a per-user basis.

Thanks for any help you can provide.


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:55:40 +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> 5. Debian's politic sometimes creates problems which could be solved in
> a really more straightforward way: if it had been in the deps from the
> beginning, I would not have had to do all of this. Okay, this is `too
> recent' stuff, but sticking with main packages should not prevent you
> from viewing a video on Youtube! (I actually quite never use Youtube,
> but I prefer things working everywhere.)

It's "vox populi" that Flash Player is closed source and so cannot/
shouldn't be included by default in Debian. You can get it from other 
sources.

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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Merciadri Luca]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Merciadri Luca  writes:

> "Edward J. Shornock"  writes:
>
>> On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>>> Nuno Magalhães  writes:
>>>
 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca
   wrote:
> I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two
> computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried
> with the up-to-date Firefox.

 I have this one:
 ii  flashplugin-nonfree 1:2.8
 running Sid on amd64.
>>> Iceweasel gives me, amongst the add-ons:
>>> ==
>>> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100
>>
>> Is that possibly gnash? Gnash IIRC still doesn't fully support the
>> features utilised by youtube.
>>
>> Have you installed the flash plugin from aptitude/synaptic/apt? If so,
>> what do you receive from
>>
>> dpkg -l '*flash*' '*gnash*'
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> Then, some unuseful stuff:
>>>
>>> ==
>>> Loading stream: 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=cY_KrB8Mepg&t=vjVQa1PpcFNC0_Vmf7Tgh8pq2tVgZTgBGRuQEA1S28M=&el=detailpage&ps=&fmt=5&asv=2&noflv=1
>>> Loading stream: 
>>> http://v7.cache2.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor&fexp=903202&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=5&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1264899600&key=yt1&signature=3C09C806BB0A3FCC9CF94A95A7429513CCE9898C.D440F68A564E69A814DE2B041DA03CE4972021A1&factor=1.25&id=718fcaac1f0c7a98&redirect_counter=1
>>> Loading stream: 
>>> http://video-stats.video.google.com/s?ns=yt&docid=cY_KrB8Mepg&hl=en_US&cr=US&el=detailpage&fexp=903202&vid=aqSUfBzQpzyLVV7WYJF3KaH1uTg5Arf7C&csipt=watch&fmt=5&md=1&st=0.067&w=640&plid=AAR-ZjxkLeKATowr&vw=320&fv=WIN%209%2C0%2C100%2C0&sd=B4A7DD227MM&et=0.067&rt=2.8&len=254.4&bc=231338&vh=240&h=360
>>> ==
>>
>> Actually, I think this is quite useful in this case; the standard
>> non-free plugin from Adobe doesn't return any output for me.
> That is however the one I installed! (Just from Adobe's website.)
>>
>>> Once I have clicked, I can hear sound, and sometimes see an image from
>>> the flash being played, but nothing more. The whole Iceweasel becomes
>>> unresponsive, and I am obliged to kill the process. If I do not kill
>>> it, it begins to stall completely, and freezes.
>>>
>>> Any idea?
>>
>> Check both PCs (about:plugins) and see if the flash plugins differ as
>> I suspect they do. On youtube you'll get the best support from the
>> official' flash plugin.
> The plugins are exactly the same, except that the computer where it
> works has also `Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22' together with `Shockwave
> Flash 9.0 r100,' where the computer which Youtube does not work on has
> only `Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100.'
>
>> OR if you have greasemonkey installed, you can use
>> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/63509 and view the videos using
>> mplayer or VLC. I've had the best luck with the greasemonkey script
>> and the following settings
>>
>> # ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
>> vo=gl
>> cachesize=512
>> cache-percent=5
>> profile=plugin
>>
>> # ~/.mplayer/config
>> [plugin]
>> autosync=0
>> mc=0
>> correct-pts=yes
> I do not have it installed, but, if it is really needed, I shall
> install it, and use your tips.
Okay, I have solved the problem.

Angus Hedger sent me an e-mail with a pointer to
http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Debian5.0.27Lenny.27.3AFlashPlayer10
but I did not see his e-mail directly. I tried something by myself
which was actually the same as what he proposed me to do. Funny. Here
is the story:

1. Installing the last Flash Player from the `genuine' website,
i.e. either from a .tar.gz (which only contains a .so file: strange,
isn't it? Last versions were not containing only such a file, I think)
or from a .rpm is not a good idea.

I installed the rpm, but the add-on was actually not
recognized at all by FF (and thus Iceweasel). There is a difference
between flashplugin-nonfree (which is in the backports) and the flash
which is installed with Adobe's website! The Flash which is installed
thanks to the file which you download on Adobe's website is _not_
contained in a package such as `flashplugin-nonfree.' FF and Iceweasel
seem to look for nothing but flashplugin-nonfree. Consequently, FF and
Iceweasel never find the Flash you install, once it has been
downloaded and installed thanks to Adobe's website. However, this
solution worked on the computer where Flash was already working at the
beginning...

2. I firstly looked thoroughly in packages.debian.org, where the
backports give flashplugin-nonfree. I gave a try, and installing it
worked perfectly. Okay, it is listed as only `Shockwave Flash
10.0 r42' in the add-ons of Iceweasel (and consequently FF). This is
nice, and, on Youtube, and now works perfectly!

3. Youtube apparently uses the functionalities of the most recent
versions of Flash. Consequently, every Flash was working on every
website, except on Youtube, where videos where hanging the whole
browser, because the installed version (9.0) was n

Re: Wrong magic bytes -> corrupted file?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 07:40:00PM +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> 
> I am encountering
> 
> ==
> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libwins.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic 
> bytes at the start.
> ==
> 
> from ldconfig. Everything seems however to work nicely. Some questions
> naturally arise:
> 
> 1. What is the role of libwins.so?

Normally files that are simply .so (without any extra version) under
*/lib/ are symlinks intended for build-time. Maybe this is merely a
dandling link?

What is the output of:

  ls -l /usr/lib/libwins.so

And then again, you can check the magic directly:

  file /usr/lib/libwins.so

> 2. Should I simply download libwins.so in BIN from an FTP server, and
> put it there, to solve the problem?

Is it part of some package? I get no hits for 'apt-file search
/usr/lib/libwins.so' here (squeeze, amd64).

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Re: Iceweasel 3.5.6 - no search suggestions in the search-box

[Jan Hlodan]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> On 2010-01-31 16:33 +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>> In Preference: Remember search and form history
>
This works fine.

> This will show previously entered values, and is not broken (at least
> not for me).  What Jan means is that _Google_'s suggestions¹ are no
> longer shown.
>
Exactly.

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Re: Iceweasel 3.5.6 - no search suggestions in the search-box

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-01-31 16:33 +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

> On Sunday 31 January 2010 16:04:27 Jan Hlodan wrote:
>> Hi,
>> does anybody know, why Iceweasel doesn't show search suggestions in
>> the google search-box?
>> Debian Squeeze i386
>> Iceweasel 3.5.6.
>> I have found just this tread:
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48127
>> but no answer..
>> Thank you.
>> Regards,
>> 
> In Preference: Remember search and form history

This will show previously entered values, and is not broken (at least
not for me).  What Jan means is that _Google_'s suggestions¹ are no
longer shown.

Sven


¹ http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.search.suggest.enabled


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Re: Iceweasel 3.5.6 - no search suggestions in the search-box

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-01-31 16:04 +0100, Jan Hlodan wrote:

> Hi,
> does anybody know, why Iceweasel doesn't show search suggestions in
> the google search-box?

I don't know but I suspect some change on Goggle's side.  In Wikipedia's
search engine suggestions still work.

If anybody has more information, please share it.

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Re: want the solution

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Sunday 31 January 2010 16:12:29 Sam "Blooper" Harris wrote:
> Hi there!
> 
> I have IBM ThinkPad Z61t. And, want to migrate from MS Windows Vista to
> Debian GNU/Linux. But, into my laptop some hardware request special
> drivers, such as integrated Fingerprint, Active protection (HDD
> anti-shock system), other. How I can install Debian on my laptop? Are
> you can help me with solution and\or links?
> 
> Respectfully yours,
> Sam
> 

Well, Sam, here we are all users who answer questions freely. That to say you 
can not "want" a solution. That said, my first guess is that you will need to 
do a fair bit of reading first. I would start with : 
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
which may not be the easiest guide, but the official one.
Or: http://www.aboutdebian.com/
and many others. Just google it.
Also : http://www.linux-laptop.net/ may help you.
As for fingerprint staff, I have no idea.
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Re: want the solution

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:12:29 -0500 (EST), Sam "Blooper" Harris wrote:
> I have IBM ThinkPad Z61t. And, want to migrate from MS Windows Vista to 
> Debian GNU/Linux. But, into my laptop some hardware request special 
> drivers, such as integrated Fingerprint, Active protection (HDD 
> anti-shock system), other. How I can install Debian on my laptop? Are 
> you can help me with solution and\or links?

http://www.thinkwiki.org


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Re: How To determine the date the system & packages were installed.

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:55:30 -0500 (EST), Jochen Schulz wrote:
> I guess the time is in UTC. (Only 1 hour off in my case, I don't know
> about yours.

Maybe it's not an hour off.  Have you taken Daylight Saving Time into
account?  For example, the US Eastern Time zone is five hours behind
GMT in the winter, but only four hours behind GMT in the summer.
What time of year was it at that time?  What time zone offset was
in effect then?


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Segmentation fault query.

[Jack Schneider]

Hi, all

I need some direction.  I am running Debian squeeze-amd64 and have
encountered a problem. On shutting down with kernel 2.6.32-trunk-amd64
after the system halt, I get a "segmentation fault" and hangs.
the system stays powered up. Booting with kernel 2.6.30-1 this does not
occur and the system shuts down normally.  I have a "trace" output but
it's beyond my understanding and not complete as it may be  scrolled off
screen.  

How and to whom should this be reported? What other info should I
obtain?  My syslog and messages seem to not be reporting it. as it has
"halted".

TIA Jack


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Angus Hedger]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Merciadri Luca <
luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> "Edward J. Shornock"  writes:
>
> > On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> >> Nuno Magalhães  writes:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca
> >>>   wrote:
>  I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two
>  computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried
>  with the up-to-date Firefox.
> >>>
> >>> I have this one:
> >>> ii  flashplugin-nonfree 1:2.8
> >>> running Sid on amd64.
> >> Iceweasel gives me, amongst the add-ons:
> >> ==
> >> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100
> >
> > Is that possibly gnash? Gnash IIRC still doesn't fully support the
> > features utilised by youtube.
> >
> > Have you installed the flash plugin from aptitude/synaptic/apt? If so,
> > what do you receive from
> >
> > dpkg -l '*flash*' '*gnash*'
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> Then, some unuseful stuff:
> >>
> >> ==
> >> Loading stream:
> http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=cY_KrB8Mepg&t=vjVQa1PpcFNC0_Vmf7Tgh8pq2tVgZTgBGRuQEA1S28M=&el=detailpage&ps=&fmt=5&asv=2&noflv=1
> >> Loading stream:
> http://v7.cache2.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor&fexp=903202&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=5&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1264899600&key=yt1&signature=3C09C806BB0A3FCC9CF94A95A7429513CCE9898C.D440F68A564E69A814DE2B041DA03CE4972021A1&factor=1.25&id=718fcaac1f0c7a98&redirect_counter=1
> >> Loading stream:
> http://video-stats.video.google.com/s?ns=yt&docid=cY_KrB8Mepg&hl=en_US&cr=US&el=detailpage&fexp=903202&vid=aqSUfBzQpzyLVV7WYJF3KaH1uTg5Arf7C&csipt=watch&fmt=5&md=1&st=0.067&w=640&plid=AAR-ZjxkLeKATowr&vw=320&fv=WIN%209%2C0%2C100%2C0&sd=B4A7DD227MM&et=0.067&rt=2.8&len=254.4&bc=231338&vh=240&h=360
> >> ==
> >
> > Actually, I think this is quite useful in this case; the standard
> > non-free plugin from Adobe doesn't return any output for me.
> That is however the one I installed! (Just from Adobe's website.)
> >
> >> Once I have clicked, I can hear sound, and sometimes see an image from
> >> the flash being played, but nothing more. The whole Iceweasel becomes
> >> unresponsive, and I am obliged to kill the process. If I do not kill
> >> it, it begins to stall completely, and freezes.
> >>
> >> Any idea?
> >
> > Check both PCs (about:plugins) and see if the flash plugins differ as
> > I suspect they do. On youtube you'll get the best support from the
> > official' flash plugin.
> The plugins are exactly the same, except that the computer where it
> works has also `Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22' together with `Shockwave
> Flash 9.0 r100,' where the computer which Youtube does not work on has
> only `Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100.'
>
> > OR if you have greasemonkey installed, you can use
> > http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/63509 and view the videos using
> > mplayer or VLC. I've had the best luck with the greasemonkey script
> > and the following settings
> >
> > # ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
> > vo=gl
> > cachesize=512
> > cache-percent=5
> > profile=plugin
> >
> > # ~/.mplayer/config
> > [plugin]
> > autosync=0
> > mc=0
> > correct-pts=yes
> I do not have it installed, but, if it is really needed, I shall
> install it, and use your tips.

[snip]

Hello,

I think that is your problem, you-tube only really works well under flash
v10

Instructions here will get you up and running with v10 and that *should* fix
your problems

http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Debian5.0.27Lenny.27.3AFlashPlayer10

Regards,

Angus.

Re: Iceweasel 3.5.6 - no search suggestions in the search-box

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Sunday 31 January 2010 16:04:27 Jan Hlodan wrote:
> Hi,
> does anybody know, why Iceweasel doesn't show search suggestions in
> the google search-box?
> Debian Squeeze i386
> Iceweasel 3.5.6.
> I have found just this tread:
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48127
> but no answer..
> Thank you.
> Regards,
> 
In Preference: Remember search and form history
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want the solution

[Sam "Blooper" Harris]

Hi there!

I have IBM ThinkPad Z61t. And, want to migrate from MS Windows Vista to 
Debian GNU/Linux. But, into my laptop some hardware request special 
drivers, such as integrated Fingerprint, Active protection (HDD 
anti-shock system), other. How I can install Debian on my laptop? Are 
you can help me with solution and\or links?


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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Merciadri Luca]

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"Edward J. Shornock"  writes:

> On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> Nuno Magalhães  writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca
>>>   wrote:
 I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two
 computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried
 with the up-to-date Firefox.
>>>
>>> I have this one:
>>> ii  flashplugin-nonfree 1:2.8
>>> running Sid on amd64.
>> Iceweasel gives me, amongst the add-ons:
>> ==
>> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100
>
> Is that possibly gnash? Gnash IIRC still doesn't fully support the
> features utilised by youtube.
>
> Have you installed the flash plugin from aptitude/synaptic/apt? If so,
> what do you receive from
>
> dpkg -l '*flash*' '*gnash*'
>
> [snip]
>
>> Then, some unuseful stuff:
>>
>> ==
>> Loading stream: 
>> http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=cY_KrB8Mepg&t=vjVQa1PpcFNC0_Vmf7Tgh8pq2tVgZTgBGRuQEA1S28M=&el=detailpage&ps=&fmt=5&asv=2&noflv=1
>> Loading stream: 
>> http://v7.cache2.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor&fexp=903202&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=5&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1264899600&key=yt1&signature=3C09C806BB0A3FCC9CF94A95A7429513CCE9898C.D440F68A564E69A814DE2B041DA03CE4972021A1&factor=1.25&id=718fcaac1f0c7a98&redirect_counter=1
>> Loading stream: 
>> http://video-stats.video.google.com/s?ns=yt&docid=cY_KrB8Mepg&hl=en_US&cr=US&el=detailpage&fexp=903202&vid=aqSUfBzQpzyLVV7WYJF3KaH1uTg5Arf7C&csipt=watch&fmt=5&md=1&st=0.067&w=640&plid=AAR-ZjxkLeKATowr&vw=320&fv=WIN%209%2C0%2C100%2C0&sd=B4A7DD227MM&et=0.067&rt=2.8&len=254.4&bc=231338&vh=240&h=360
>> ==
>
> Actually, I think this is quite useful in this case; the standard
> non-free plugin from Adobe doesn't return any output for me.
That is however the one I installed! (Just from Adobe's website.)
>
>> Once I have clicked, I can hear sound, and sometimes see an image from
>> the flash being played, but nothing more. The whole Iceweasel becomes
>> unresponsive, and I am obliged to kill the process. If I do not kill
>> it, it begins to stall completely, and freezes.
>>
>> Any idea?
>
> Check both PCs (about:plugins) and see if the flash plugins differ as
> I suspect they do. On youtube you'll get the best support from the
> official' flash plugin.
The plugins are exactly the same, except that the computer where it
works has also `Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22' together with `Shockwave
Flash 9.0 r100,' where the computer which Youtube does not work on has
only `Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100.'

> OR if you have greasemonkey installed, you can use
> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/63509 and view the videos using
> mplayer or VLC. I've had the best luck with the greasemonkey script
> and the following settings
>
> # ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
> vo=gl
> cachesize=512
> cache-percent=5
> profile=plugin
>
> # ~/.mplayer/config
> [plugin]
> autosync=0
> mc=0
> correct-pts=yes
I do not have it installed, but, if it is really needed, I shall
install it, and use your tips.

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Iceweasel 3.5.6 - no search suggestions in the search-box

[Jan Hlodan]

Hi,
does anybody know, why Iceweasel doesn't show search suggestions in
the google search-box?
Debian Squeeze i386
Iceweasel 3.5.6.
I have found just this tread:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48127
but no answer..
Thank you.
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Re: How To determine the date the system & packages were installed.

[Jochen Schulz]

Jeffrey Cao:
> On 2010-01-30, Jochen Schulz  wrote:
> 
>> A good hint might be the creation date of your root filesystem:
>> 
>> $ sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1  | grep created
>> Filesystem created:   Mon Jul  6 09:01:20 2009
>> 
>> (Hm, did I really install this system on a Monday at 9 o'clock in the
>> morning? Must have been on vacation.)
>> 
> It sounds good, but when I run this command on my notebook, it says:
> Filesystem created:   Thu Feb 19 05:38:52 2009
> I can't believe it's 5:38 in the morning when I installed my system.

I guess the time is in UTC. (Only 1 hour off in my case, I don't know
about yours.

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Re: Decibel value mentioned to tones (siggen package) not working as expected

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2010 31 Jan 08:03 -0600, Foss User wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Jan Piet Joris en Corneel
>  wrote:
> > A difference of 2 dB cannot be noted by most people.  The minimal
> > difference you can hear is 3 dB, but please try some more difference
> > e.g. 10 dB.
> 
> I tied -8 dB and -20 dB this time but both the sounds still sound the same.
> 
> Command:
> 
> rm notes.wav; tones -w notes.wav 1000 4...@-8 0 4...@-20 && play notes.wav

It's quite possible that your levels are still too "hot".  Open the
file in Audacity and be sure the waveform isn't "clipped".  You should
be able to see nice rounded peaks and valleys in the sine wave.  If any
part of the waveform is flat or jagged, reduce the level further.

Keep in mind that average voice levels on a telephone line are around
-16 dBm.  That is 16 dB lower than 0 dBm (1 milliwatt) or 0.025 mW. 
Not a lot of power.

Now, you are using dB in this message.  You may be well aware that dB
is a ratio and not a unit of measure.  To have any meaning the dB is
suffixed with a unit of measure to indicate the ratio to the reference
level or it must be assumed to be a ratio.  Common values are dBm
(reference 1 milliwatt), dBW (reference to 1 Watt), and many more: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel

Note also that 0 dBm is not 0 milliwatts!

HTH,

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Re: rollback X, SIS671/771

[António PT]

Thanks! I didn't know there was such a project.

2010/1/28 Florian Reitmeir 

> Hi,
>
> http://snapshot.debian.net/
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Sebastian wrote:
>
>  I have a SIS 671/771 graphics card in my laptop (Fujitsu Esprimo
>> v5535) which has always given me grief. It was running smoothly with
>> resolution up to 1024x800 however with a driver I downloaded from the
>> net[1] on my debian squeeze/sid (apt prefers testing).
>>
>> After the xorg update from last night though the downloaded driver
>> (sisimedia) stopped working and even after a good bit of fiddling with
>> xorg.conf I only get the vesa-driver running (800x600). Which is - of
>> course - not very nice...
>>
>> So, two questions:
>>
>> 1. How can I rollback my X to the way it was before?
>> 2. Anybody had any success with the mentioned graphics card?
>>
>
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Re: programming doubt

[Celejar]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:36:14 +0530
Jeffrin Jose  wrote:

> hello all,
> 
> 
> i have a program based on C code.
> i have to add functionality to the
> program.Is it possible to that func\
> tionality using python or any other 
> scripting languages.

http://www.python.org/doc/1.5/ext/node9.html

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Squeeze: gnome-screensaver starts when watching movies

[Jan Hlodan]

Hi,
Debian Squeeze i386
when I'm watching a movie (in smplayer, full screen), screensaver starts.
I set: screensaver will start after 10 minutes of inactivity +
password required.
But screensaver is really annoying when watching movies...
I checked Ubuntu 9.10 and screensaver didn't start when smplayer was
playing movie.
Is it a bug of gnome-screensaver or features?
Thank you.
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Re: Decibel value mentioned to tones (siggen package) not working as expected

[Foss User]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Jan Piet Joris en Corneel
 wrote:
> A difference of 2 dB cannot be noted by most people.  The minimal
> difference you can hear is 3 dB, but please try some more difference
> e.g. 10 dB.

I tied -8 dB and -20 dB this time but both the sounds still sound the same.

Command:

rm notes.wav; tones -w notes.wav 1000 4...@-8 0 4...@-20 && play notes.wav


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Re: Solution to Connecting to Verizon MiFi

[Wayne]

Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Wayne  put forth on 1/22/2010 12:15 PM:


Note:  If not able to connect to the internet, disable your firewall. If
you can then connect, fix your firewall.  I use firehol.

Thanks Again Stan for all of your help.


That's so kind of you Wayne.  I didn't do all that much, just helped you climb
over that one little hill that was standing in your way.  I'm so glad you got it
working!



Just giving credit where credit is due Stan.

Did not think about putting this on the wiki.  Google, and others, 
picked up that thread within a day or so.  That's why I keep reminding
new users to Google before asking on the list.  The answers for more & 
more problems are out there for those that look.  Or in my case, find 
someone who could ask the right questions.  :-)


Verizon was glad I posted it though.

Cheers all!

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Re: Decibel value mentioned to tones (siggen package) not working as expected

[Jan Piet Joris en Corneel]

A difference of 2 dB cannot be noted by most people.  The minimal
difference you can hear is 3 dB, but please try some more difference
e.g. 10 dB.

2010/1/31 Foss User :
> I am using the tones command from siggen package.
>
> $ rm notes.wav; tones -w notes.wav 1000 4...@-2 0 4...@-4 && play notes.wav
>
> The command generates 3 tones, each one second long
>
> 1. 440 Hz at -2 dB
> 2. 0 Hz (silence)
> 3. 440 Hz at -4 dB
>
> However, both the first and third tones sounds equally loud. From the
> decibel values I have given, the first tone should have sounded louder
> than the third. Can someone tell me what is going on?
>
> N.B. The 'play' command is from sox package.
>
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Decibel value mentioned to tones (siggen package) not working as expected

[Foss User]

I am using the tones command from siggen package.

$ rm notes.wav; tones -w notes.wav 1000 4...@-2 0 4...@-4 && play notes.wav

The command generates 3 tones, each one second long

1. 440 Hz at -2 dB
2. 0 Hz (silence)
3. 440 Hz at -4 dB

However, both the first and third tones sounds equally loud. From the
decibel values I have given, the first tone should have sounded louder
than the third. Can someone tell me what is going on?

N.B. The 'play' command is from sox package.


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beep command seems to be generating tone of incorrect frequency

[Foss User]

I was using the beep command in the 'beep' package to generate tones.
I find that it doesn't quite  behave as expected. I ran the following
two commands:

$ beep -f 440 -l 1000
$ beep -f 880 -l 1000

The 880 Hz sound sounded lower in pitch than 440 Hz sound.

Also,  it sounds out of tune with the sound generated by the following commands:

$ ecasound -i tone,sine,440,1 -o alsa
$ ecasound -i tone,sine,840,1 -o alsa

Note that the output of this command sounds proper, i.e. 880 Hz sounds
higher in pitch than 440 Hz. Is this a bug in the beep command?


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Re: Sound - none happening.......

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 22:55:51 +1100, Charlie wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:23:01 +0100 Florian Kulzer shared this with us all:
> >On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote:
> >> 
> >> Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it
> >> working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going
> >> again:
> >> 
> >> Acer 3614WLCi laptop
> >> 
> >> $ lspci | grep -i audio
> >> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 
> >> 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
> >
> >[ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ]
> >
> >> $ cat   /proc/asound/cards
> >>  0 [ICH6   ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6
> >>   Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21
> >>  1 [pcsp   ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp
> >>   Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61
> >>  2 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem
> >>   Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21

[...]

> speaker-test -t sine -c 2
> 
> speaker-test 1.0.21
> 
> Playback device is default
> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
> Sine wave rate is 440.Hz
> Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
> Buffer size range from 2048 to 8192
> Period size range from 1024 to 1024
> Using max buffer size 8192
> Periods = 4
> was set period_size = 1024
> was set buffer_size = 8192
>  0 - Front Left
>  1 - Front Right
> Time per period = 5.822096
> 
> This goes on until I kill it but no sound.

The system acts as if everything is alright, so you do not have a
problem with some daemon blocking access to the device.

Time to look at the mixer settings; please post the output of:

aplay -lL

amixer

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Re: Sid Sound Problem

[Wayne]

Ogya Chief wrote:




Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:58:15 -0500
From: linux...@gmail.com
To: ogyach...@hotmail.com
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Sid Sound Problem

Ogya Chief wrote:

Hi All,

I am running sid on my laptop. I cannot get any sound output at all. When the 
computer is booting up, the following error message shows:
   Starting Open Sound System: Failed  (No Modules detected).

What kernel module needs to be installed to fix this problem.


It depends on your laptop.  We can't figure that out for you.  You
could do an lspci -v and find out though.  You might also do a
dmesg |less and search for audio and it might just tell you why id isn't
working.


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The audio device is ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) but dmesg 
does not report any error.


Check the past 2-3 days of the list.  ISTR that someone had a problem 
with the Intel HDA after an upgrade.  I don't have that problem, thankfully.


HTH

Wayne






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Re: Firefox (and Iceweasel) are unable to play Youtube videos

[Edward J. Shornock]

On 30.01.2010 20:57, Merciadri Luca wrote:

Nuno Magalhães  writes:


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca
  wrote:

I have both `flash-plugin - Adobe Flash Player 10.0' on the two
computers. They are executing Iceweasel v. 3.0.6, and I also tried
with the up-to-date Firefox.


I have this one:
ii  flashplugin-nonfree 1:2.8
running Sid on amd64.

Iceweasel gives me, amongst the add-ons:
==
Shockwave Flash 9.0 r100


Is that possibly gnash? Gnash IIRC still doesn't fully support the 
features utilised by youtube.


Have you installed the flash plugin from aptitude/synaptic/apt? If so, 
what do you receive from


dpkg -l '*flash*' '*gnash*'

[snip]




Then, some unuseful stuff:

==
Loading stream: 
http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=cY_KrB8Mepg&t=vjVQa1PpcFNC0_Vmf7Tgh8pq2tVgZTgBGRuQEA1S28M=&el=detailpage&ps=&fmt=5&asv=2&noflv=1
Loading stream: 
http://v7.cache2.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpire%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Calgorithm%2Cburst%2Cfactor&fexp=903202&algorithm=throttle-factor&itag=5&ipbits=0&burst=40&sver=3&expire=1264899600&key=yt1&signature=3C09C806BB0A3FCC9CF94A95A7429513CCE9898C.D440F68A564E69A814DE2B041DA03CE4972021A1&factor=1.25&id=718fcaac1f0c7a98&redirect_counter=1
Loading stream: 
http://video-stats.video.google.com/s?ns=yt&docid=cY_KrB8Mepg&hl=en_US&cr=US&el=detailpage&fexp=903202&vid=aqSUfBzQpzyLVV7WYJF3KaH1uTg5Arf7C&csipt=watch&fmt=5&md=1&st=0.067&w=640&plid=AAR-ZjxkLeKATowr&vw=320&fv=WIN%209%2C0%2C100%2C0&sd=B4A7DD227MM&et=0.067&rt=2.8&len=254.4&bc=231338&vh=240&h=360
==


Actually, I think this is quite useful in this case; the standard 
non-free plugin from Adobe doesn't return any output for me.



Once I have clicked, I can hear sound, and sometimes see an image from
the flash being played, but nothing more. The whole Iceweasel becomes
unresponsive, and I am obliged to kill the process. If I do not kill
it, it begins to stall completely, and freezes.

Any idea?



Check both PCs (about:plugins) and see if the flash plugins differ as I 
suspect they do. On youtube you'll get the best support from the 
'official' flash plugin.


OR if you have greasemonkey installed, you can use 
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/63509 and view the videos using 
mplayer or VLC. I've had the best luck with the greasemonkey script and 
the following settings


# ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
vo=gl
cachesize=512
cache-percent=5
profile=plugin


# ~/.mplayer/config
[plugin]
autosync=0
mc=0
correct-pts=yes


Hope this helps,

Edward J. Shornock


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Re: one website gives "address not found" from LAN

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:27:46 +, Adam Hardy wrote:

> Florian Kulzer on 31/01/10 10:04, wrote:

>> Try if you can resolve the name using another nameserver, for example:
>> 
>>   host www.trade2win.com 4.2.2.1
>> 
>> If that works then you have a problem with your standard nameserver and
>> we need to see the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf.
> 
> Well it looks like it half works:

All your tests *are right*.

If you are still unable to browse to that webpage, try with an online 
proxy:

http://proxify.co.uk/

(in the input field, type the URL of the page and click "Proxify")

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Re: How To determine the date the system & packages were installed.

[Jeffrey Cao]

On 2010-01-30, Jochen Schulz  wrote:
>
> --YzdYn+D7cUqe+VA3
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Mike Iowa:
>>=20
>> 2. I would also like to be able to look at (any) Debian or Debian-based
>> system and tell when the operating system was originally installed.
>
> A good hint might be the creation date of your root filesystem:
>
> $ sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1  | grep created
> Filesystem created:   Mon Jul  6 09:01:20 2009
>
> (Hm, did I really install this system on a Monday at 9 o'clock in the
> morning? Must have been on vacation.)
>
It sounds good, but when I run this command on my notebook, it says:
Filesystem created:   Thu Feb 19 05:38:52 2009
I can't believe it's 5:38 in the morning when I installed my system.

Jeffrey


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Re: one website gives "address not found" from LAN

[Adam Hardy]

Florian Kulzer on 31/01/10 10:04, wrote:

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 01:16:13 +, Adam Hardy wrote:

Klistvud on 30/01/10 23:48, wrote:

Dne, 30. 01. 2010 14:35:12 je Adam Hardy napisal(a):


Hi Folks
thanks for the advice - I do know the website is running fine
out there - I just can't access it from my LAN. From my mobile
phone, fine. But not from my lan.


[...]


By the way, it seems the domain name has not defined an alias for
"www" so when you query for it, it cannot resolve:

s...@stt008:~$ host www.trade2win.com
Host www.trade2win.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)


That works for me:

$ host www.trade2win.com
www.trade2win.com   CNAME   panna-229.trade2win.com
panna-229.trade2win.com A   208.43.120.229


So that could be contributing but I don't know why just my connection is 
affected.


Try if you can resolve the name using another nameserver, for example:

  host www.trade2win.com 4.2.2.1

If that works then you have a problem with your standard nameserver and
we need to see the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf.


Well it looks like it half works:

a...@isengard:~$ host www.trade2win.com 4.2.2.1
Using domain server:
Name: 4.2.2.1
Address: 4.2.2.1#53
Aliases:

www.trade2win.com is an alias for panna-229.trade2win.com.
panna-229.trade2win.com has address 208.43.120.229
Host panna-229.trade2win.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
Host panna-229.trade2win.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)


a...@isengard:~$ host trade2win.com
trade2win.com has address 208.43.120.229
trade2win.com mail is handled by 10 smtp5.intermedia.net.


and
a...@isengard:~$ traceroute trade2win.com
traceroute to trade2win.com (208.43.120.229), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * 213.120.176.58 (213.120.176.58)  26.944 ms  27.281 ms
 6  213.120.176.182 (213.120.176.182)  29.258 ms  6.146 ms  6.785 ms
 7  213.120.176.137 (213.120.176.137)  6.625 ms  6.876 ms  8.158 ms
 8  core1-gig10-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (62.172.102.133)  7.173 ms  8.175 ms 
 7.016 ms

 9  62.172.103.25 (62.172.103.25)  9.638 ms  8.809 ms  8.657 ms
10  transit1-xe0-0-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (62.6.200.106)  7.697 ms  7.985 ms 
8.941 ms

11  t2c1-ge14-0-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net (166.49.168.25)  7.954 ms  8.859 ms  9.212 ms
12  t2c1-p4-0-0.us-ash.eu.bt.net (166.49.164.225)  89.994 ms  90.042 ms  89.894 
ms
13  te1-2.cer01.wdc01.washingtondc-datacenter.com (206.223.115.185)  82.921 ms 
83.143 ms  83.012 ms
14  po1.fcr01.wdc01.washingtondc-datacenter.com (208.43.118.134)  90.961 ms 
91.040 ms  91.260 ms

15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *


and finally my resolv.conf (rewritten by dhcp.client when picking up IP address 
from the DSL modem):


a...@isengard:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
domain localdomain
search localdomain
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 194.74.65.68


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Re: remove an HTML tag and all its children from commandline

[Zhang Weiwu]

Zhang Weiwu 写道:
> Sure. libwww and sgrep are tools, while xpath is a language. I believe I
> should try xpath because I might use use it in other places too, but
> what tool to use for xpath?
Now I think I can answer my own question, partly at least. There is a
good tool for xpath that is named xpath. In debian it is in this package:
$ apt-file search /usr/bin/xpath
libxml-xpath-perl: /usr/bin/xpath

An example of using the tool: print the "advertisement" is:

$ tidy -q -asxml -utf8 page_07_zh.html | xpath -e 
'//d...@class="advertisement"]'


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Re: Realtek r8168 problems with net installer and Intel D945GSEJT motherboard

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:09:51 +0100, Jan Piet Joris en Corneel wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> 
> For some days I've trying to install Debian Lenny 5.0.3 using an USB
> stick on an intel D945GSEJT motherboard (with Intel Atom N270
> processor, 1 GB RAM and Realtek 8111DL gigabit onboard NIC, new home
> server). I've problems with the NIC because it is not recognised by
> the installer.

[...]

> The combinations confuses me. I want to run the installer but it halts
> because it cannot recognise the NIC. If I want to install the NIC
> driver, I need a Debian system. Sounds like a chicken and egg problem
> to me.
> 
> Can somebody supply me instructions to get Lenny installed on this
> board? I really want to get it up & running, Debian performed great
> for five years on my previous home server.

The first thing I would try is one of Kenshi Muto's customized debian
installer images with backported newer kernels and therefore better
support for newer hardware:

http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/

(I have not checked anything for your particular NIC, therefore I cannot
 say how likely it is that the d-i with the newer kernel will work.)

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Re: Sound - none happening.......

[Charlie]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:23:01 +0100 Florian Kulzer
 shared this with us all:

>On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it
>> working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going
>> again:
>> 
>> Acer 3614WLCi laptop
>> 
>> $ lspci | grep -i audio
>> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation
>> 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
>
>[ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ]
>
>> $ cat   /proc/asound/cards
>>  0 [ICH6   ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6
>>   Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21
>>  1 [pcsp   ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp
>>   Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61
>>  2 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem
>>   Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21
>
>That looks good, too; the right card has number 0.
>
>[...]
>
>> The following doesn't work:
>> 
>> # udevtrigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound
>> -su: udevtrigger: command not found
>
>For the current version of udev, this command should be:
>
>  udevadm trigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound
>
>I do not think that it will make any difference in your case, though.
>
>[...]
>
>> Possibly someone could point me further, or see what I'm missing.
>> I've been without any sound so long, I don't really miss it, but it
>> would just be nice to have my Squeeze system working as it should.
>
>Everything seems to be OK; do you get an error message if you run
>
>  speaker-test -t sine -c 2
>
>?

Thanks Florian,

speaker-test -t sine -c 2

speaker-test 1.0.21

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
Sine wave rate is 440.Hz
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 2048 to 8192
Period size range from 1024 to 1024
Using max buffer size 8192
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 1024
was set buffer_size = 8192
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right
Time per period = 5.822096

This goes on until I kill it but no sound.

[shrug] Don't know if that's what you expected?

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Re: Sound - none happening.......

[Charlie]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:28:54 -0700 pplaw  sent this
information:


>On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 03:04:10PM +1100, Charlie wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it
>> working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going
>> again:
>> 
>> Acer 3614WLCi laptop
>> 
>> $ lspci | grep -i audio
>> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation
>> 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
>> 
>> I see a bug on the net against the hardware above on Ubuntu? It is
>> said it can be worked around with alsa-lib, but not how that might
>> be done.
>> 
>> $ lsmod | grep snd
>> snd_intel8x0   19523  1 
>> snd_intel8x0m   8100  0 
>> snd_ac97_codec 79136  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m
>
>__deletia__
>> 
>> 
>> Installed:
>> 
>> v   alsa
>> - i   alsa-base   - ALSA driver configuration
>> files i   alsa-firmware-loaders   - ALSA software loaders for
>> specific hardwar i   alsa-oss- ALSA wrapper
>> for OSS applications i   alsa-tools  - Console
>> based ALSA utilities for specific i
>> alsa-tools-gui  - GUI based ALSA utilities for
>> specific hard i alsa-utils  - ALSA utilities i
>> alsamixergui- graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA
>>
>
>__deletia__
>
> Possibly someone could point me further, or see what I'm missing. I've
>> been without any sound so long, I don't really miss it, but it would
>> just be nice to have my Squeeze system working as it should.
>> 
>> TIA
>> Charlie
>> -- 
>
>//
>
># alsamixergui
>
>what shows?  ("master," "pcm," "front," "surro," "center," etc.?)
>
>thx.

All show as being half way up the slider scale.

As does  AlsaMixer v1.0.21 and the correct sound card is selected.

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Re: texlive-latex-base configuration error

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 16:06:34 +0100, Alexandru Cabuz wrote:
> Hello, list!
> 
> I am running testing i386. Upgrading livetex, apt gives configuration
> errors:

[...]

> The one it seems to be choking on unavoidably is texlive-latex-base
> That's the one that breaks things, I think.
> 
> I have enclosed the output of apt below, and also the logfile it produces.
> 
> 
> Paramétrage de texlive-latex-base (2009-7) ...
> Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done.
> Building format(s) --all --cnffile
> /etc/texmf/fmt.d/10texlive-latex-base.cnf.
> This may take some time...
> fmtutil-sys failed. Output has been stored in
> /tmp/fmtutil.rDOEJe9f
> Please include this file if you report a bug.

[...]

> cabuz:/home/cabuz# cat /tmp/fmtutil.rDOEJe9f

[...]

> fmtutil: running `luatex -ini   -jobname=dvilualatex -progname=dvilualatex
> dvilualatex.ini' ...
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.50.0-2009122515 (INITEX)
>  restricted \write18 enabled.
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/latexconfig/dvilualatex.ini

That seems to be an outdated (or just plain wrong) location for this
file; it should be at
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/dvilualatex.ini.

I would check which package is responsible for this file, i.e. run:

  dpkg -S /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/latexconfig/dvilualatex.ini

You might have to purge (not just remove) whatever package is
responsible for putting this file on your system.

> ! I can't find file `luatexconfig.tex'.
> l.2 \input luatexconfig.tex
> 
> Please type another input file name:
> ! Emergency stop.
> l.2 \input luatexconfig.tex
> 
> No pages of output.
> Transcript written on dvilualatex.log.
> Error: `luatex -ini  -jobname=dvilualatex -progname=dvilualatex
> dvilualatex.ini' failed

The correct locations and names for the lualatex configuration files
are:

$ dpkg -L texlive-latex-base | grep lualatex
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/lualatex.ini
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/lualatexiniconfig.tex
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/dvilualatex.ini
/usr/bin/lualatex
/usr/bin/dvilualatex

> fmtutil: running `luatex -ini   -jobname=lualatex -progname=lualatex
> lualatex.ini' ...
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.50.0-2009122515 (INITEX)
>  restricted \write18 enabled.
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/latexconfig/lualatex.ini
> ! I can't find file `luatexconfig.tex'.

The same problem occurs with lualatex.ini, which is in a wrong location
as well.

[...]

If getting rid of the spurious configuration files does not let you
complete the upgrade of the texlive packages, then you might have to
temporarily comment out all references to lua(la)tex and dvilua(la)tex
in the files in /etc/texmf/fmt.d/. This should at least allow you to
complete the upgrade, but the lua(la)tex formats will not be built.
Afterwards you might have to purge and reinstall luatex and maybe also
texlive-base and texlive-latex-base.

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Re: one website gives "address not found" from LAN

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:35:12 +, Adam Hardy wrote:

> thanks for the advice - I do know the website is running fine out there
> - I just can't access it from my LAN. From my mobile phone, fine. But
> not from my lan.
> 
> And those are the outputs from useful cmds above but I can't see any
> problem.

What is the output of the following commands?

***
host trade2win.com
traceroute trade2win.com
***

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Synchronizing more than one folder/file in Unison, per profile

[Merciadri Luca]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

Unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) is a really great
tool, but it may be interesting, for me, to synchronize more than one
folder (or file, depending on the choices) per profile.

For example, if I have a profile `Docs', I would like to synchronize
/home/myself/Docs

_and_

/home/Docs.txt

Is it possible? I tried modifying the related .prf in ~/.unison/, but
it did not work out.

Thanks!
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Re: one website gives "address not found" from LAN

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:04:19 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> That works for me:
> 
> $ host www.trade2win.com
> www.trade2win.com   CNAME   panna-229.trade2win.com
> panna-229.trade2win.com A   208.43.120.229

Now yes. It works here, too:

s...@stt008:~/Desktop$ host www.trade2win.com
www.trade2win.com is an alias for panna-229.trade2win.com.
panna-229.trade2win.com has address 208.43.120.229
panna-229.trade2win.com is an alias for panna-229.trade2win.com.
panna-229.trade2win.com is an alias for panna-229.trade2win.com.

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Realtek r8168 problems with net installer and Intel D945GSEJT motherboard

[Jan Piet Joris en Corneel]

Dear all,


For some days I've trying to install Debian Lenny 5.0.3 using an USB
stick on an intel D945GSEJT motherboard (with Intel Atom N270
processor, 1 GB RAM and Realtek 8111DL gigabit onboard NIC, new home
server). I've problems with the NIC because it is not recognised by
the installer. Thus, the installation cannot continue. I've both tried
the netinst image and cd image nr 1. I copied them to USB drive with
UNetbootinst running on Win XP.

It seems numerous threads exist on this topic on multiple discussion
platforms, and it all has to do with an unsuitable module in the
kernel of the installer (and other kernel versions). It is possible to
install with a different NIC, see
http://justlinuxguide.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-i-have-installed-debian-linux-on.html.
Some people report module r8169 (..9, not 8) works partly, however
this seems to differ from installer to installer version. Apparently
r8169 is not loaded by default with the 5.0.3 installer.

Also instructions on compiling the module with the Realtek source code
are readily available and I can manage that.

The combinations confuses me. I want to run the installer but it halts
because it cannot recognise the NIC. If I want to install the NIC
driver, I need a Debian system. Sounds like a chicken and egg problem
to me.

Can somebody supply me instructions to get Lenny installed on this
board? I really want to get it up & running, Debian performed great
for five years on my previous home server.


Thanks,

Corné


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Re: remove an HTML tag and all its children from commandline

[Steve Kemp]

On Sun Jan 31, 2010 at 10:54:46 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:

> I want to remove all advertisements in my 100 html files. They are
> pretty neatly classed, like the following:
>
> 
> ...
> 

  You might enjoy my "html-tool" command which would do the
 job for you via:

html-tool --cut-class=advertisement --file input.html

  You can get it via:

wget http://mybin.repository.steve.org.uk/raw-file/tip/html-tool

  Or via the repository at:

http://mybin.repository.steve.org.uk/

  See here for some brief discussion:

http://blog.steve.org.uk/oh__this_should_be_stunning_.html

  Internally it uses the XPath perl module HTML::TreeBuilder::Xpath,
 but the details probably don't matter.

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Re: one website gives "address not found" from LAN

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 01:16:13 +, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Klistvud on 30/01/10 23:48, wrote:
> >Dne, 30. 01. 2010 14:35:12 je Adam Hardy napisal(a):
> >
> >>
> >>Hi Folks
> >>thanks for the advice - I do know the website is running fine
> >>out there - I just can't access it from my LAN. From my mobile
> >>phone, fine. But not from my lan.

[...]

> >By the way, it seems the domain name has not defined an alias for
> >"www" so when you query for it, it cannot resolve:
> >
> >s...@stt008:~$ host www.trade2win.com
> >Host www.trade2win.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

That works for me:

$ host www.trade2win.com
www.trade2win.com   CNAME   panna-229.trade2win.com
panna-229.trade2win.com A   208.43.120.229

> So that could be contributing but I don't know why just my connection is 
> affected.

Try if you can resolve the name using another nameserver, for example:

  host www.trade2win.com 4.2.2.1

If that works then you have a problem with your standard nameserver and
we need to see the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf.

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Re: something dpkg-related hogs my resources

[Liviu Andronic]

On 1/31/10, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> >From your description I conclude that this is probably a cronjob (or
>  several cronjobs) that checks the installed files/packages.  You can use
>  the 'pstree' command from the psmisc package to find out which job is
>  the resource hog when it starts next time.
>
I will try next time.


>  BTW, do you run testing/unstable and have the debsums package installed?
>
I am running testing, but debsums is not installed.

Thanks
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Re: remove an HTML tag and all its children from commandline

[Zhang Weiwu]

Steve Kemp 写道:
>
>   You might enjoy my "html-tool" command which would do the
>  job for you via:
>   
Thank you very much for mentioning this tool. A first glance it seems
this tool is just too wonderful, it is just designed to solve problems
like mine. However after I try it what I worry most happened:
> The
> thing I worry a bit about xpath is: if it normalize or correct HTML
> errors, or align it differently, in the output, after I have done the
> removal, it would be big a problem for me, because I am a link on the
> corporate workflow chain where others rely on poorly made tools and
> incorrect and turbulent HTML to do their daily work and I must not break
> them by improving the HTML, unless I do not want to keep current
> peaceful and lazy life and save time for more valuable sane projects.
Unfortunately it does. The output HTML no longer work with the stupid
drag-and-drop-html-edit-for-idiot my "web design guy" is using. I am in
position of delivering a signed contract, not in evaluating if a
contract can be done, this situation means I cannot take html-tool as an
option. But I will well keep it in mind to use when feasible!

As time is tight I guess I just use the most turbulent solution: adding
the following to all HTML pages:


.advertisement {
display: none;
}


It is a silly solution that punishes web visitor for web designer's
fault. But on the other hand, I think the web designer who made the junk
HTML really should not enjoy too much help from me. Maybe I just let it
go this way.


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Re: Sound - none happening.......

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it
> working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again:
> 
> Acer 3614WLCi laptop
> 
> $ lspci | grep -i audio
> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW 
> (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)

[ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ]

> $ cat   /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [ICH6   ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6
>   Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21
>  1 [pcsp   ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp
>   Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61
>  2 [Modem  ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem
>   Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21

That looks good, too; the right card has number 0.

[...]

> The following doesn't work:
> 
> # udevtrigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound
> -su: udevtrigger: command not found

For the current version of udev, this command should be:

  udevadm trigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound

I do not think that it will make any difference in your case, though.

[...]

> Possibly someone could point me further, or see what I'm missing. I've
> been without any sound so long, I don't really miss it, but it would
> just be nice to have my Squeeze system working as it should.

Everything seems to be OK; do you get an error message if you run

  speaker-test -t sine -c 2

?

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Re: Downgrading xorg xserver from 1.7 to 1.6

[Matteo Riva]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:40 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

> A good starting point would be to look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for
> errors (EE) and warnings (WW). Nowadays X his supposed to handle dri or
> compositing alone, but sometime it helps to show him the way. On the
> contrary by adding to much "random" stuff to your xorg.conf you may mess
> the configuration.

Thanks! I had looked at the log but I guess I missed the error line
mentioning dri module not being loaded do to an error.

Installing the firmware-linux package fixed that.

Performance is still not optimal (window resize is still a bit slow) but
at least the workspace/application switch is much faster.

The main problem now is the excessive load on the CPU leading to quite
a bit more heating than usual, but at least I can work without the urge
to smash the keyboard :)


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Re: something dpkg-related hogs my resources

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-01-31 10:59 +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> Something dpkg-related hogs my system's resources. It is disturbing
> since it starts by itself, takes many minutes (+/- 1h) and ends by
> itself. I could also not identify one obvious process responsible for
> it. WHen this happens, CPU indicator shows about 50% usage of the two
> cores, while I can spot many `sh' processes (with one of them taking a
> good chunk of CPU), an `md5sum' process starting and ending
> sporadically and a `dpkg-query' one exhibiting similar behaviour.
>
> Could someone suggest how to track down what triggers this and turn it
> off? Thank you

>From your description I conclude that this is probably a cronjob (or
several cronjobs) that checks the installed files/packages.  You can use
the 'pstree' command from the psmisc package to find out which job is
the resource hog when it starts next time.

BTW, do you run testing/unstable and have the debsums package installed?
If so, setting

CRON_CHECK="never"

in /etc/default/debsums could put an end to your problems.

Sven


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Re: remove an HTML tag and all its children from commandline

[Zhang Weiwu]

T o n g 写道:
> For not-so-simple tasks, you need not-so-simple tools. Depending on how 
> much time you'd like to investigate into such not-so-simple tools, take a 
> look at lib?, sgrep or the xpath language. 
>   
Sure. libwww and sgrep are tools, while xpath is a language. I believe I
should try xpath because I might use use it in other places too, but
what tool to use for xpath? Is there a handy commandline too for it? The
thing I worry a bit about xpath is: if it normalize or correct HTML
errors, or align it differently, in the output, after I have done the
removal, it would be big a problem for me, because I am a link on the
corporate workflow chain where others rely on poorly made tools and
incorrect and turbulent HTML to do their daily work and I must not break
them by improving the HTML, unless I do not want to keep current
peaceful and lazy life and save time for more valuable sane projects.

I am pretty sure sgrep can solve my problem after glanced the manual,
though.


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something dpkg-related hogs my resources

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all
Something dpkg-related hogs my system's resources. It is disturbing
since it starts by itself, takes many minutes (+/- 1h) and ends by
itself. I could also not identify one obvious process responsible for
it. WHen this happens, CPU indicator shows about 50% usage of the two
cores, while I can spot many `sh' processes (with one of them taking a
good chunk of CPU), an `md5sum' process starting and ending
sporadically and a `dpkg-query' one exhibiting similar behaviour.

Could someone suggest how to track down what triggers this and turn it
off? Thank you
Liviu

li...@debian-liv:~$ uname -a
Linux debian-liv 2.6.30-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 7 05:21:45 UTC 2009
x86_64 GNU/Linux



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Re: Downgrading xorg xserver from 1.7 to 1.6

[tv.deb...@googlemail.com]

Matteo Riva wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Wolodja Wentland
>  wrote:
> 
>> I use the radeonhd driver and am very happy with its performance. I ran
>> into the same behaviour you described some time ago and fixed it by using EXA
>> as acceleration method. The applicable part from my xorg.conf is:
>>
>> --- snip ---
>> Section "Device"
>>Driver  "radeonhd"
>>Option  "DRI"   "on"
>>Option  "AccelMethod" "EXA"
>>...
>> EndSection
>> --- snip ---
> 
> Meh, when I read this message I instantly modified my xorg.conf
> *knowing* this was the solution... but sadly it still made no difference
> :(
> 
> Can you post your full xorg.conf in case I'm missing some other required
> part? Or a log of a correctly working xorg system.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> 

A good starting point would be to look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for
errors (EE) and warnings (WW). Nowadays X his supposed to handle dri or
compositing alone, but sometime it helps to show him the way. On the
contrary by adding to much "random" stuff to your xorg.conf you may mess
the configuration.


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Re: build from source, patch does not remove cleanly

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 03:43:53AM +, T o n g wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:14:56 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> 
> > Read /usr/share/doc/quilt/README.source for information how to work with
> > packages that use quilt.
> 
> Thanks. It compiles fine now.
> 
> How would I submit patch? Would my hacked debian/patches/Acer_Aspire_5536 
> alone be fine?

File a bug report on the uswsusp package using reportbug command.
 * Indicate the bug report to be with "patch".
 * attach patch or Acer_Aspire_5536 file.

Osamu
PS: I see some patches:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549118


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programming doubt

[Jeffrin Jose]

hello all,


i have a program based on C code.
i have to add functionality to the
program.Is it possible to that func\
tionality using python or any other 
scripting languages.

/all thanks.
/Jeffrin.


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Re: radeonhd: no acceleration DRI / AGP???

[Klistvud]

Dne, 31. 01. 2010 03:52:01 je Kelly Clowers napisal(a):
AMD has published all 2d and 3d info for r100 through r700 (r800/5xxx  
is

in the pipeline):
http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/


I stand corrected. That's like music to my ears.

DRI2/KMS is theoretically usable with 2.6.32, Mesa 7.7, XServer 1.7  
and

the latest Radeon (not HD) drivers (possibly with some patches), but
anything older is a no go.


Am I to understand that AMD released specs for their cutting-edge cards  
only, or just that the radeon and radeonhd developers don't have time,  
resources or interest in supporting older, obsolete equipment?


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