ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM:
> If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid),
> which other distribution would you use and why?
What situation are you in that motivates this question?
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ZephyrQ wrote:
If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid),
which other distribution would you use and why?
Red Hat -- I learned Linux on Red Hat. It worked fine up through
version 7.3. 8 had problems. 9 was worse. Red Hat went commercial and
turned their back on e
In <4cd3921a.5090...@optonline.net>, Doug wrote:
>On 11/04/2010 10:50 PM, ZephyrQ wrote:
>> If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid),
>> which other distribution would you use and why?
>
>One thing I
>really _don't_ like about Debian is its fear of the copyright. I reall
On 11/04/2010 10:50 PM, ZephyrQ wrote:
If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid),
which other distribution would you use and why?
If I wanted the Debian style without Debian, I would use Ubuntu, after I
modified
it to look more like Debian--black letters on white m
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>> Will there be any gain? :-?
> I believe - as it has other technologies than i486 CPUs.
I think there's a lack of evidence that it will make
a significant difference.
Stefan
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2010-11-04 21:03, Paul Cartwright skrev:
I'm running Lenny, updated, and Thunderbird 3.1.6 ( from my local user).
SOMETIMES, you see a folder, click "N" for next message, the
folder still has the (1) for new message, but when you hit N, it
proceeds to the next folder. Eventually you hit N and com
If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid),
which other distribution would you use and why?
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ZephyrQ wrote:
> If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid),
> which other distribution would you use and why?
If Debian didn't exist it would be necessary to invent it.
Bob
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I have just installed lenny from cd-1 (5.0.6), but I cannot get wireless network
to work. I have installed wicd from lenny-backports, and followed the
instructions on
the page
http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
but wicd does not recognize the wireless network (which is there,
I am sending this vi
On 11/04/2010 07:37 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> Why do you think the problem of the shortcut ("N") for going to the next
> unread messsage has any connection with the filters? :-?
hm.. not sure, I just ASSuMEd..
ok, so I have messages in folders, when I get to the last unread
message, the folder STILL s
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
> No, I cannot see any i586 kernel (i686 is the right one for pentium).
AFAIK the kernel will not work on pentium machine - as it will announce
at boot time - no appropriate CPU.
> And we need to thank Debian DD because at least they provide i486
>
On 2010-11-03, godo wrote:
>> Mmm... maybe the mailing list server does not like your IP
>> (93.139.23.178) because it appears as blacklisted under some rbl :-?>
>>
> Thanks for answer. Yes, I'm on http://www.mail-abuse.com/ and I don't
> know why.
> I contacted them and hope that I will soon be
Camaleón wrote:
> I'm trying to "reverse-engineering" the logic behind the sort but I can't
> see it. Maybe it is done randomly? Very curious, indeed.
It is "dictionary" sort ordering as specified by the locale. Case is
folded and punctuation is (mostly) ignored.
Personally I always set the fol
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:48:30 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
...
> with mbox and searching strings in Icedove is bit slow if mbox files are
> big (measured in GiB :-P).
If you're still doing on-demand searching, have you considered using a
mail indexer, such as Sylph-Searcher, or a generic file in
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:03:54 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
(...)
> I setup lots & lots of filters, almost every email gets filtered
> somewhere.. SOMETIMES, you see a folder, click "N" for next message, the
> folder still has the (1) for new message, but when you hit N, it
> proceeds to the next
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:55:53PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:23:27 +0100, Rob Gom wrote:
>
> > [cut]
> >>
> >> I'm also getting that behaviour (locale set to "es_ES.UTF-8") so I
> >> understand that my locale setting dictates "underscore" ("_") comes
> >> first than "comma" (
Hi again, Sthu:
On Thursday 04 November 2010 18:25:24 Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer again, Jesús:
> > you have *two* hops on
> > your local side; you Internet connection knows about the nearest to
> > it (from its perspective), which is 20.20.20.20, but it doesn't know
> >
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:23:27 +0100, Rob Gom wrote:
> [cut]
>>
>> I'm also getting that behaviour (locale set to "es_ES.UTF-8") so I
>> understand that my locale setting dictates "underscore" ("_") comes
>> first than "comma" (",") symbol.
>>
>> As per "man sort" page:
>>
>> *** WARNING *** The loc
Johan Scheepers wrote:
> Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem
> connected by cable.
>
> All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out.
This is another one of those annoying bugs related to network-manager.
Evolution online/offline with n-m only wo
I have some form of workaround.
When I know sort field separator (which was the case in my original
example), I can use that to overcome the limitations with:
$ LC_ALL=pl_PL.UTF-8 sort -k1,1 -t',' test.csv
aph3,"APP",""
aph3,"MiB",""
aph3_devel,"TXT",""
# everything fine
$ LC_ALL=pl_PL.UTF-8 sort
One more thing.
If I specify LC_COLLATE to C/POSIX, special characters sorting looks
fine, but I lose Polish characters ordering.
If I specify LC_COLLATE to pl_PL.UTF-8, Polish characters ordering is
fine, but sorting goes crazy with special characters.
Is it possible to retain both features then?
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Mark Allums wrote:
Not a pattern in the hashes. A pattern in the history.
Hi Mark. That's what I meant. The history is made up of hashes and
possibly additional information.
Cheers,
Rob
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>
> This is covered by the coreutils FAQ:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Sort-does-not-sort-in-normal-order_0021
>
> Sven
>
Thanks for all the answers.
How could I know that collate is defined correctly? I understand
LC_COLLATE influence on sort operation, but
On 2010-11-04 20:29 +0100, Rob Gom wrote:
> Hi all,
> do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)?
>
> $ cat test.csv
> aph3,"APP",""
> aph3_devel,"TXT",""
> aph3,"MiB",""
>
> $ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected
> aph3,"APP",""
> aph3,"MiB",""
> aph3_devel,"TXT",""
>
> $ LC_ALL=pl_P
On 04/11/2010 21:56, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 22:57 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:
Good day,
Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected
by cable.
All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out.
Today I configured ev
[cut]
>
> I'm also getting that behaviour (locale set to "es_ES.UTF-8") so I
> understand that my locale setting dictates "underscore" ("_") comes first
> than "comma" (",") symbol.
>
> As per "man sort" page:
>
> *** WARNING *** The locale specified by the environment affects sort
> order. Set LC_
On 11/04/2010 02:29 PM, Rob Gom wrote:
Hi all,
do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)?
$ cat test.csv
aph3,"APP",""
aph3_devel,"TXT",""
aph3,"MiB",""
$ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected
aph3,"APP",""
aph3,"MiB",""
aph3_devel,"TXT",""
$ LC_ALL=pl_PL sort test.csv # why is t
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:29:02 +0100, Rob Gom wrote:
> do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)?
>
> $ cat test.csv
> aph3,"APP",""
> aph3_devel,"TXT",""
> aph3,"MiB",""
>
> $ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected
> aph3,"APP",""
> aph3,"MiB",""
> aph3_devel,"TXT",""
>
> $ LC_ALL=pl
I'm running Lenny, updated, and Thunderbird 3.1.6 ( from my local user).
I setup a bunch of my user IMAP setups, from my domain host, and pull in
mail from fetchmailrc.
I setup lots & lots of filters, almost every email gets filtered
somewhere.. SOMETIMES, you see a folder, click "N" for next messa
Chris Davies writes:
> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> But I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time
>> set to UTC, I created a file at 14:43 UTC. Then I copied it via rsync
>> and ethernet cross cable to another PC with system time set to GMT,
>> one hour late respect to UTC.
>
>
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 22:57 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:
> Good day,
>
> Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected
> by cable.
>
> All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out.
>
> Today I configured evolution but no dice.
> I use icedov
According to the man page, it seems initex and virtex are now replaced by
tex -ini
and
tex
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Hi all,
do you think it's a bug in either libc or coreutils (sort)?
$ cat test.csv
aph3,"APP",""
aph3_devel,"TXT",""
aph3,"MiB",""
$ LC_ALL=C sort test.csv # expected
aph3,"APP",""
aph3,"MiB",""
aph3_devel,"TXT",""
$ LC_ALL=pl_PL sort test.csv # why is that?
aph3,"APP",""
aph3_devel,"TXT",""
ap
In <4cd2eddc.52790e0a.3014.0...@mx.google.com>, Sthu Deus wrote:
>Thank You for Your time and answer, Brad:
>>Probably because, like the AMD (32 bit) builds, there was insufficient
>>benefit to warrant all the extra work (to say nothing of storage space)
>>to do it.
>
>Then. may You know why they h
Good day,
Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected
by cable.
All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out.
Today I configured evolution but no dice.
I use icedove but wanted to try evo.
On the evo list I found that evo needs some settin
Wolodja Wentland wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:55 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:40:15 +0100, Lukas Baxa wrote:
>>> Camaleón wrote:
>
>>> I would like to file a new bug report, but I'm not sure against which
>>> package. I'm considering either passwd or libpam-modules.
>
Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> But I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time
> set to UTC, I created a file at 14:43 UTC. Then I copied it via rsync
> and ethernet cross cable to another PC with system time set to GMT,
> one hour late respect to UTC.
GMT is not (and never is) one ho
From: lee
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:09:36 +0200
> You have 142.103.107.137 on both Carnot and Dalton ...
Just one of my klutzy errors. Fixed it.
http://carnot.yi.org/NetworkExtant.jpg
"host carnot.yi.org" should work also.
> seems weird that you have connected a hub to your internet
> conn
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:38:43 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> I think this may cause serious errors: in fact, when someone read the
>> timestamp on the 2nd PC, he would believe that the file were created at
>> 14:43 of the GMT time, which is wrong: in fact, it was created at 15:43
>> GMT = 14:43 UT
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Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Brad:
>
>> Probably because, like the AMD (32 bit) builds, there was
>> insufficient benefit to warrant all the extra work (to say nothing
>> of storage space) to do it.
>
> Then. may You know wh
Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Chris Jackson writes:
>
>> File timestamps are (or at least should be) stored in UTC. It's the
>> display of them that's affected.
>
>
>
> But I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time set to UTC,
> I created a file at 14:43 UTC. Then I copied it
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:29:24 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
>
>> Will there be any gain? :-?
>
> I believe - as it has other technologies than i486 CPUs.
I guess i586 shares most of the i686 specs and that's the reason for the
i686 kernel: all needed fo
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:23:13 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> [...] I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time set
>> to UTC, I created a file at 14:43 UTC. Then I copied it via rsync and
>> ethernet cross cable to another PC with system time set to GMT, one hour
>> late respec
Thank You for Your time and answer, Brad:
>Probably because, like the AMD (32 bit) builds, there was insufficient
>benefit to warrant all the extra work (to say nothing of storage space)
>to do it.
Then. may You know why they have chosen i486 instead of i386?
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Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
> Will there be any gain? :-?
I believe - as it has other technologies than i486 CPUs.
> Anyway, I think you can always re-compile/re-build your own kernel
> (i686) and enable MMX extensions...
It reaches recompiling every time the package is updat
Thank You for Your time and answer again, Jesús:
> you have *two* hops on
> your local side; you Internet connection knows about the nearest to
> it (from its perspective), which is 20.20.20.20, but it doesn't know
> about the second hop, the one that goes from 20.20.20.20 to
> 192.168.0.0/24, so
Carlos Mennens wrote:
> I've find it very useful. When you log out, that's it. You're done.
> Why would you leave printable data on the screen for others to see
> when you walk away from the terminal. It's a security vulnerability
> and when you tell the system to "log off", you're saying 'I'm done
On 11/04/2010 10:23 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Chris Jackson writes:
File timestamps are (or at least should be) stored in UTC. It's the
display of them that's affected.
But I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time set to UTC,
I created a file at 14:43 UTC. Then I cop
Hi, Sthu:
On Thursday 04 November 2010 08:11:04 Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Jesús, again:
> > Let's try again:
> > 1) What are the exact iptables rules you are trying?
> > I'd suggest trying this and only this (just for testing; once it's
> > working you can tie up them
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:23:13 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Chris Jackson writes:
>
>> File timestamps are (or at least should be) stored in UTC. It's the
>> display of them that's affected.
>
>
>
> But I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time set
> to UTC, I created a fi
Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>
Guess, development ceased for KEdit, so did packaging. So for simple
writing needs use KWrite, for advanced ones - Kate.
Thanks Roma
Sthu Deus schreef:
Good day.
Just wanted to ask, Why there is no linux-image package for i586,
especially w/ MMX support - but only for i486, then for i686 and up?
Thank You for Your time.
please consider building your own kernel with the extensions you want.
kind regards,
steef
Chris Jackson writes:
> File timestamps are (or at least should be) stored in UTC. It's the
> display of them that's affected.
But I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time set to UTC,
I created a file at 14:43 UTC. Then I copied it via rsync and ethernet cross
cable to a
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:08:50 +0700
Sthu Deus wrote:
Hello Sthu,
> Just wanted to ask, Why there is no linux-image package for i586,
> especially w/ MMX support - but only for i486, then for i686 and up?
Probably because, like the AMD (32 bit) builds, there was insufficient
benefit to warrant all
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:08:50 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Just wanted to ask, Why there is no linux-image package for i586,
> especially w/ MMX support - but only for i486, then for i686 and up?
Will there be any gain? :-?
Anyway, I think you can always re-compile/re-build your own kernel (i686)
a
Good day.
Just wanted to ask, Why there is no linux-image package for i586,
especially w/ MMX support - but only for i486, then for i686 and up?
Thank You for Your time.
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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> I always hate it that the default skeleton for normal users is to
> clear the screen on logout. It is one of the irritating things that I
> always fix on my systems so that it doesn't do that by default. It
> gets in the way of productivity. I
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:56:16 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:
> On 04/11/2010 12:49, Camaleón wrote:
>>> The word 'sis' to be replaced by 'vesa in the whole file'?
>>>
>> Yes... okay, I'll put it all together in pastebin (just copy/paste):
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2nXCCgM5
>>
>>
>>
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Gregory Seidman
wrote:
[cut]
>
> Also, of course you need an original file. If you don't have an original
> file there is nothing to look at other than the patch file itself. What
> is there to visualize without an original?
>
>> Regards,
>> Robert
> --Greg
>
The sa
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:30:13AM +0100, Rob Gom wrote:
> [cut]
> >
> > You have to be comfortable in vim, but you can use the following:
> >
> > gvim "+vert diffpatch "
> >
> > If you aren't comfortable with vim, you *might* be able to use the
> > following, but no guarantees (I don't have a pat
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:55 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:40:15 +0100, Lukas Baxa wrote:
> > Camaleón wrote:
> > I would like to file a new bug report, but I'm not sure against which
> > package. I'm considering either passwd or libpam-modules.
> "passwd" (as Wolodja suggeste
On 04/11/2010 12:49, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:04:12 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:
On 03/11/2010 22:03, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
So back to work, copy/paste the "xorg.conf" detailed in this message¹,
restart the computer and check if you see any improvement.
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 09:08:41 +0900, yamada hiroyuki wrote:
(...)
> apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
>
> It seems kernel 2.6.26-25lenny1 is donwloaded. But running kernel is
> 2.6.26-21lenny3. So, I am wondering how I can get 2.6.26-21lenny3 source
> code. (I could not find the one on the d
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:40:15 +0100, Lukas Baxa wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 21:35:20 +, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
>> (...)
>>
>>> … which is clearly not working in the way it is described. I have not
>>> reproduced this bug myself, but it is exactly that and should
>>> there
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:04:12 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:
> On 03/11/2010 22:03, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> So back to work, copy/paste the "xorg.conf" detailed in this message¹,
>> restart the computer and check if you see any improvement.
(...)
>> ¹http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 09:22:59 +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 20:03 +, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> So back to work, copy/paste the "xorg.conf" detailed in this message¹,
>> restart the computer and check if you see any improvement.
>
> It might also be worth checking if th
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>
> You have to be comfortable in vim, but you can use the following:
>
> gvim "+vert diffpatch "
>
> If you aren't comfortable with vim, you *might* be able to use the
> following, but no guarantees (I don't have a patch file handy to determine
> whether this will work):
>
> gvim -y "+vert
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> Rob Gom:
>>
>> do you know/is there any graphical patch/diff viewer in Debian (or for
>> Linux in general)? Such a tool would produce side by side view of
>> changes/deletions/inserts.
>
> Apart from vimdiff: have you tried Kdiff3?
>
[cut]
Can
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> In , Rob Gom
> wrote:
>>There is kompare for KDE, but it is unreliable - produces false
>>results for specific patches.
>
> Odd. I use it all the time and haven't seen it be inconsistent. It fails
> indicate files have changed when
Dne, 04. 11. 2010 10:13:07 je Klistvud napisal(a):
If the latter, I can only add these 2 cents: on my desktop machine
with an Intel motherboard, the front audio headers require special
(Windows-only, of course) software to fully work. They do work per
se, but if you want to enable rear ja
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Javier Barroso wrote:
[cut]
> Apply the patch in a tmp directory and then use meld, vimdiff, or what you
> like
>
Why should I do such operation? Only to satisfy some tools? I don't
need/want to apply huge patches to huge source trees. I want to
preview them sepa
Dne, 04. 11. 2010 09:53:20 je Huasen napisal(a):
On 11/04/2010 04:41 PM, Klistvud wrote:
Have you made sure the front audio panel is actually connected to
the motherboard audio headers? If this laptop has been serviced
before, they may well have forgotten to re-attach the cables
(happened
On 03/11/2010 22:22, Richard Hector wrote:
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 20:03 +, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:01:40 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:
Now that remains is a big thank you for a big effort from you to solve
this. It was a learning experience for me.
Thank you to othe
Thank You for Your time and answer, Jesús, again:
> Let's try again:
> 1) What are the exact iptables rules you are trying?
> I'd suggest trying this and only this (just for testing; once it's
> working you can tie up them as needed):
> /sbin/iptables -F
> /sbin/iptables -t nat -F
Thank You for Your time and answer, Peter E.:
> My network has masquerading.
Thank You, it did the trick.
But question still remains w/ me, Why in another situation, I had
simply to specify in iptables (on host2, having only two NICs - not ppp)
to forward packets from host1 to the world - w/o ma
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