date:20120216

Buenas lista, tengo instalado el virtualbox 3.2.10_ose r_66523 y al
iniciar el servicio de una maquina virtual me sale el siguiente error:

Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe
vboxdrv' as root.

Ya instale el virtualbox-ose-dkms, ejecute dpkg-reconfigure
virtualbox-ose-dkms y
# modprobe vboxdrv; mi kernel es  2.6.32-5-amd64.

Espero contar con la ayuda de uds. y desde ya muchas gracias.-

Per quanto riguarda
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Reemplazar más de un espacio por solamente uno

2012-02-16 Thread Marcos Delgado

Uso rpl para remplazar varios espacios por uno sólo, de la siguiente manera:

rpl '  '  ' ' texto.cvs

Ahí reemplazo 5 espacios por uno sólo.
Y repito con menos (o más, según el caso) para que quede solamente un
espacio entre palabras, pero no me parece la mejor manera para
resolverlo. ¿Alguien me podría comentar como lo hacen? Mi búsqueda en
internet no me ha dado buenas ideas.

Saludos y gracias de antemano.

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Re: Servidor Debian - 2 conexiones de internet

2012-02-16 Thread Walter


El 16/02/12 08:23, Juan Antonio escribió:

El 16/02/12 11:00, Marc Olive escribió:
On Wednesday 15 February 2012 16:38:01 seguridadenmim...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Estoy necesitando hacer que inter1 sea la conexión principal y si esta
falla el trafico debe ir por inet2, así tengo redundancia. Otro caso
seria sumar ambas ifaces y que si cae una el trafico siga normal

No lo he probado, pero estoy a punto de montar lo mismo.

Por lo que se, para el balanceo de carga no tienes que hacer nada. Si 
ambas
interficies estan configuradas y las dos tienen rutas por defecto 
(destination
0.0.0.0 en ambas), entonces el balanceo de carga lo hace 
automáticamente el

kernel.
Claro que quizas Shorewall/iptables te tirará todas las conexiones 
por la
misma interfície, según como lo tengas montado, por ejemplo si haces 
NAT y

diriges el tráfico a una sola ethernet.

Lo siguiente que (yo) querria hacer, es poder dedicar una conexión a 
ciertas

IPs en ciertos momentos (videconferencias y demás, puntuales), eso con
iptables deberia poder hacerlo sin muchos problemas.


¿Alguien me puede guiar?

Muchas Gracias.


Hola,

en realidad si tienes que hacer, tienes que configurar ambas rutas con 
el parámetro nexthop de iproute, puedes incluso añadir pesos, pero 
antes tienes que tener correctamente configurado cada enlace para que 
devuelva el tráfico de cada proveedor por donde corresponde.


Para sacar tráfico discriminado por servicio o IP puedes marcar con 
iptables el tráfico que quieras en mangle PREROUTING y usar la marca 
con una rule de iproute para sacarlo por una tabla u otra.


Un saludo.


Yo intente lo mismo.. pero no pude... (incapaz, se le dice, jaja) pero 
bueno... encontre este y sali adelante

es sobre RedHat o CentOS.
http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/downloads

quizas te sirva

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Re: Problemas para iniciar virtuabox

2012-02-16 Thread Gerardo Villafranca

Hola.

Ejecuta lo siguiente como root y después corre el VirtualBox.
/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

Saludos.
Gerardo Villafranca.

El jue, 16-02-2012 a las 18:12 +0100, Marioca escribió:
 Buenas lista, tengo instalado el virtualbox 3.2.10_ose r_66523 y al
 iniciar el servicio de una maquina virtual me sale el siguiente error:
 
 Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe
 vboxdrv' as root.
 
 Ya instale el virtualbox-ose-dkms, ejecute dpkg-reconfigure
 virtualbox-ose-dkms y
 # modprobe vboxdrv; mi kernel es  2.6.32-5-amd64.
 
 Espero contar con la ayuda de uds. y desde ya muchas gracias.-
 
 Per quanto riguarda
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Re: Problemas para iniciar virtuabox

El 16/02/12, Gerardo Villafranca gerardovillafra...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola.

 Ejecuta lo siguiente como root y después corre el VirtualBox.
 /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

 Saludos.
 Gerardo Villafranca.

Ya ejecuto el comando pero me sale:
bash: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: No existe el fichero o el directorio
tal ves deba crearlo o algo  ???
 El jue, 16-02-2012 a las 18:12 +0100, Marioca escribió:
 Buenas lista, tengo instalado el virtualbox 3.2.10_ose r_66523 y al
 iniciar el servicio de una maquina virtual me sale el siguiente error:

 Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe
 vboxdrv' as root.

 Ya instale el virtualbox-ose-dkms, ejecute dpkg-reconfigure
 virtualbox-ose-dkms y
 # modprobe vboxdrv; mi kernel es  2.6.32-5-amd64.

 Espero contar con la ayuda de uds. y desde ya muchas gracias.-

 Per quanto riguarda
 Marioca







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Re: Problemas para iniciar virtuabox

2012/2/16, skorky duarte skorkydua...@gmail.com:
 intenta realizando esto a ver

 # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

 # modprobe vboxdrv

Ya probe todo eso pero no pasa nada, # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup me
sale que no existe este fichero tal ves se debe crear no se como ??
 El 16 de febrero de 2012 12:42, Marioca mario.can...@gmail.com escribió:

 Buenas lista, tengo instalado el virtualbox 3.2.10_ose r_66523 y al
 iniciar el servicio de una maquina virtual me sale el siguiente error:

 Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe
 vboxdrv' as root.

 Ya instale el virtualbox-ose-dkms, ejecute dpkg-reconfigure
 virtualbox-ose-dkms y
 # modprobe vboxdrv; mi kernel es  2.6.32-5-amd64.

 Espero contar con la ayuda de uds. y desde ya muchas gracias.-

 Per quanto riguarda
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Re: Problemas para iniciar virtuabox

2012-02-16 Thread Gerardo Villafranca

Hola esa versión de ose siempre me ha dado problemas a mi,
intenta con este repositorio.

#VirtualBox 4
deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/ squeeze contrib
non-fre

E instalas el vbox 4 virtualbox-4.0 - Oracle VM
VirtualBox  

Después ejecutas el /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup e intentas correr el vbox.

Saludos.
Gerardo Villafranca.

El jue, 16-02-2012 a las 20:38 +0100, Marioca escribió:
 2012/2/16, skorky duarte skorkydua...@gmail.com:
  intenta realizando esto a ver
 
  # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
 
  # modprobe vboxdrv
 
 Ya probe todo eso pero no pasa nada, # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup me
 sale que no existe este fichero tal ves se debe crear no se como ??
  El 16 de febrero de 2012 12:42, Marioca mario.can...@gmail.com escribió:
 
  Buenas lista, tengo instalado el virtualbox 3.2.10_ose r_66523 y al
  iniciar el servicio de una maquina virtual me sale el siguiente error:
 
  Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe
  vboxdrv' as root.
 
  Ya instale el virtualbox-ose-dkms, ejecute dpkg-reconfigure
  virtualbox-ose-dkms y
  # modprobe vboxdrv; mi kernel es  2.6.32-5-amd64.
 
  Espero contar con la ayuda de uds. y desde ya muchas gracias.-
 
  Per quanto riguarda
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Instalacion de tajerta grafica nvidia gforce gt520 1g

Buenas a todos, estoy intentando instalar los drivers para mi tarjeta
gráfica nvidia GFORCE GT520 1G ya que no me reconocen las resoluciones
de pantallla.-
Tengo Debian squeeze 6.0.4 con kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 y Gnome 2.30.2.-
ya instale los sigtes. paquetes
nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms -t squeeze-backports

Agregue squeeze-backports al sources.list (incluyendo contrib y
non-free) para instalar estos paquetes privativos.-
Edite el xorg.conf agregando el Driver nvidia.-
@@ -55,7 +55,8 @@
 #Option DefaultRefresh   # [bool]
 #Option ModeSetClearScreen   # [bool]
Identifier  Card0
-   Driver  vesa
 #  Driver  vesa
Driver  nvidia
VendorName  nVidia Corporation
BoardName   Unknown Board
BusID   PCI:1:0:0

EndSection

Desde ya gracias listeros espero solucionar mi problema.-

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Re: [RESUELTO] Re: Actividad extraña en el disco duro

2012-02-16 Thread Juan Lavieri


Hola

El 16/02/12 07:07, Altair Linux escribió:

Hola a todos, estoy de vuelta en el pc normal.

no tenia acceso a nada desde la consola, ponia mi usuario normal pero
no llegaba a pedirme el password, me salia timeout.

Creo que efectivamente estaba usando swap a saco. he tardado hora y
media en volver a tener el control. que se dice pronto. Cuando por fin
he recuperado el control me he puesto a mirar por todas partes a ver
que habia podido pasar.

Pues parece que ha sido un script web malicioso que se ha dedicado a
ocupar toda la memoria disponible, parece que de ahi que el pc
estuviera sobrecargado a mas no poder.

Parece que todo ha acabado, llevo ya un rato y parece normal.


Yo que tu ejecutaría un

#chkrootkit

Por si las moscas...

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Re: Problemas para iniciar virtuabox

2012-02-16 Thread skorky duarte

aunado a lo que ya te comente anteriomente revisate esto a ver que tal

http://wiki.debianchile.org/VirtualBox


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Re: Servidor Debian - 2 conexiones de internet

2012-02-16 Thread Juan Antonio

El 16/02/12 19:25, Walter escribió:
 El 16/02/12 08:23, Juan Antonio escribió:
 El 16/02/12 11:00, Marc Olive escribió:
 On Wednesday 15 February 2012 16:38:01 seguridadenmim...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Estoy necesitando hacer que inter1 sea la conexión principal y si esta
 falla el trafico debe ir por inet2, así tengo redundancia. Otro caso
 seria sumar ambas ifaces y que si cae una el trafico siga normal
 No lo he probado, pero estoy a punto de montar lo mismo.

 Por lo que se, para el balanceo de carga no tienes que hacer nada. Si
 ambas
 interficies estan configuradas y las dos tienen rutas por defecto
 (destination
 0.0.0.0 en ambas), entonces el balanceo de carga lo hace
 automáticamente el
 kernel.
 Claro que quizas Shorewall/iptables te tirará todas las conexiones
 por la
 misma interfície, según como lo tengas montado, por ejemplo si haces
 NAT y
 diriges el tráfico a una sola ethernet.

 Lo siguiente que (yo) querria hacer, es poder dedicar una conexión a
 ciertas
 IPs en ciertos momentos (videconferencias y demás, puntuales), eso con
 iptables deberia poder hacerlo sin muchos problemas.

 ¿Alguien me puede guiar?

 Muchas Gracias.

 Hola,

 en realidad si tienes que hacer, tienes que configurar ambas rutas con
 el parámetro nexthop de iproute, puedes incluso añadir pesos, pero
 antes tienes que tener correctamente configurado cada enlace para que
 devuelva el tráfico de cada proveedor por donde corresponde.

 Para sacar tráfico discriminado por servicio o IP puedes marcar con
 iptables el tráfico que quieras en mangle PREROUTING y usar la marca
 con una rule de iproute para sacarlo por una tabla u otra.

 Un saludo.


 Yo intente lo mismo.. pero no pude... (incapaz, se le dice, jaja) pero
 bueno... encontre este y sali adelante
 es sobre RedHat o CentOS.
 http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/downloads
 
 quizas te sirva
 
 Saludos y suerte
 
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lartc.org

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Re: Reemplazar más de un espacio por solamente uno

2012-02-16 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2012/2/16 Marcos Delgado juanm...@gmail.com:
 Uso rpl para remplazar varios espacios por uno sólo, de la siguiente manera:

 rpl '      '  ' ' texto.cvs

 Ahí reemplazo 5 espacios por uno sólo.
 Y repito con menos (o más, según el caso) para que quede solamente un
 espacio entre palabras, pero no me parece la mejor manera para
 resolverlo. ¿Alguien me podría comentar como lo hacen? Mi búsqueda en
 internet no me ha dado buenas ideas.

 Saludos y gracias de antemano.

 Marcos Delgado.

perl -pi -e 's/ +/ /g' archivos

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Re: Reemplazar más de un espacio por solamente uno

2012-02-16 Thread Petronilo Sanchez

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 05:04:12PM -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote:
 2012/2/16 Marcos Delgado juanm...@gmail.com:
  Uso rpl para remplazar varios espacios por uno sólo, de la siguiente manera:
 
  rpl '      '  ' ' texto.cvs
 
  Ahí reemplazo 5 espacios por uno sólo.
  Y repito con menos (o más, según el caso) para que quede solamente un
  espacio entre palabras, pero no me parece la mejor manera para
  resolverlo. ¿Alguien me podría comentar como lo hacen? Mi búsqueda en
  internet no me ha dado buenas ideas.
 
  Saludos y gracias de antemano.
 
  Marcos Delgado.
 
 perl -pi -e 's/ +/ /g' archivos
Misma expresion en sed
   $ cat a  #Archivo con espacios
   hola adios   hola   adios   hla
   $ cat a | sed -e 's/  */ /g' #remplazando varios espacio 
   hola adios hola adios hla

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Re: Problemas para iniciar virtuabox

2012-02-16 Thread Felix Perez

El día 16 de febrero de 2012 16:38, Marioca mario.can...@gmail.com escribió:
 2012/2/16, skorky duarte skorkydua...@gmail.com:
 intenta realizando esto a ver

 # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

 # modprobe vboxdrv

 Ya probe todo eso pero no pasa nada, # /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup me
 sale que no existe este fichero tal ves se debe crear no se como ??
Por favor estimado evite el top posting.  Gracias.

Me acaba de suceder lo mismo, abri un terminal de root (gnome.xcfe)
como ya había iniciado sesion de root para otra cosa no me pidió
contraseña y le dí el /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup y el mismo error tuyo.

Abro un terminal normal de usuario, luego digito su me pide contraseña
de root se la doy y ejecuto el  /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup, me
actualiza los drivers del Vbox y listo.  Ojo que debes tener
instalados los headers correspondientes a tu kernel.


Suerte


 El 16 de febrero de 2012 12:42, Marioca mario.can...@gmail.com escribió:

 Buenas lista, tengo instalado el virtualbox 3.2.10_ose r_66523 y al
 iniciar el servicio de una maquina virtual me sale el siguiente error:

 Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe
 vboxdrv' as root.

 Ya instale el virtualbox-ose-dkms, ejecute dpkg-reconfigure
 virtualbox-ose-dkms y
 # modprobe vboxdrv; mi kernel es  2.6.32-5-amd64.

 Espero contar con la ayuda de uds. y desde ya muchas gracias.-

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Re: Reemplazar más de un espacio por solamente uno

2012-02-16 Thread Marcos Delgado

El día 16 de febrero de 2012 16:04, Carlos Zuniga
carlos@gmail.com escribió:
 2012/2/16 Marcos Delgado juanm...@gmail.com:
 Uso rpl para remplazar varios espacios por uno sólo, de la siguiente manera:

 rpl '      '  ' ' texto.cvs

 Ahí reemplazo 5 espacios por uno sólo.
 Y repito con menos (o más, según el caso) para que quede solamente un
 espacio entre palabras, pero no me parece la mejor manera para
 resolverlo. ¿Alguien me podría comentar como lo hacen? Mi búsqueda en
 internet no me ha dado buenas ideas.

 Saludos y gracias de antemano.

 Marcos Delgado.

 perl -pi -e 's/ +/ /g' archivos

 Saludos

Gracias, funcionó muy bien.

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Re: rm -rf is too slow on large files and directory structure(Around 30000)

2012-02-16 Thread Robert Brockway


On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Bilal mk wrote:


I am using xfs filesystem and also did the fsck. DMA is enabled.
Also perfomed xfs defragmentation( xfs_fsr). But still an issue not only rm
-rf but also cp command


Until quite recently XFS was notable for being slow to delete.  Others 
have noted that this is greatly improved in recent kernels but even with 
older kernels there is quite a bit of tuning that you can do to improve 
the delete performance.  Your favourite search engine should give 
you good results.


I put down some notes for myself here a while back:

http://www.practicalsysadmin.com/wiki/index.php/XFS_optimisation

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Re: using a bluetooth headset

2012-02-16 Thread Pierre Frenkiel


On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Celejar wrote:


Okay, perhaps IDUC ;) But I think that my understanding is actually
probably correct, just that there's something wrong with the bluetooth
subsystem.

  It seems clear now that something is rotten in the bluetooth linux kingdom:
  I don't see the bluetooth headset, neither in alsamixer nor in pavucontrol
  ( I had to add me to the pulse group to open pavucontrol)
  I'll try now with Windows...

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Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-16 Thread Joe

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:14:50 -0600
green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Stefan Monnier wrote at 2012-02-15 20:25 -0600:
  
  If your machine is supported by the stock kernel, all these
  problems are pretty much absent: you can expect to simply aptitude
  upgrade for the next ten years.
 
 This is *precisely* why I prefer to purchase devices with full kernel 
 support.
 
 The question is, how can I be reasonably sure before the purchase?
 In many cases the information is unavailable or difficult to find.

Because it mostly doesn't exist. If you were given one of these machines
and an Internet connection, how much time would you expect to need
before you were willing to issue a guarantee, on which other people
would base purchasing decisions, that *everything* worked as expected?

For how long would you issue the guarantee, given the slight but
non-zero chance that something is dependent on a bug which has security
issues, which might therefore change even in Stable?

When you do settle on something, will you test it exhaustively and
document the results on the Net? Because that's where the information
comes from which you're looking for at the moment, and you can help
future Debian users if you do. We'll get no help from manufacturers,
until they get desperate enough to scratch around for the last few
percent of potential customers.

Hardware compatibility happens in the MS world because the boot is on
the other foot, in that manufacturers have no choice but to engineer
their products to work with Windows, and modify them if problems are
found. No such incentive exists (yet) for Linux compatibility.

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Upgrade problem

2012-02-16 Thread Petr Osanve Vytovtov


Hello!

I use Debian testing amd64 and I have next problem.
When I write command aptitude upgrade it returns next:
/Resolving dependencies...
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and *71 not upgraded*.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used./
Command aptitude update doesn't help.
Why is it so?

Thanks in advance!

Re: Re (3): Display on IBM ThinkPad A22m

On Mi, 15 feb 12, 16:29:13, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
 From: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:26:42 +0200
  I'd rather have the full Xorg.0.log :)
 
 http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Xorg.0.log

(II) R128(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz
(II) R128(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 50.00-70.00 Hz
(WW) R128(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(II) R128(0): Clock range:  12.50 to 250.00 MHz

It seems to me like Xorg is not detecting your monitor and is using 
default values. You probably only need a section Monitor with hsync, 
vrefresh and dimensions (if you care about a correct DPI).

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Re: free software mini pc

On Jo, 16 feb 12, 08:43:20, Joe wrote:
 
 Hardware compatibility happens in the MS world because the boot is on
 the other foot, in that manufacturers have no choice but to engineer
 their products to work with Windows, and modify them if problems are
 found. No such incentive exists (yet) for Linux compatibility.

It would be enough for hardware manufacturers to stick to the relevant 
standards, but more than often they implement them in various different 
ways or simply ignore them and then release Windows drivers that work 
around the issues.

Kind regards,
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Re: using a bluetooth headset

2012-02-16 Thread J. Bakshi

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:32:43 +0100 (CET)
Pierre Frenkiel pierre.frenk...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Celejar wrote:
 
  Okay, perhaps IDUC ;) But I think that my understanding is actually
  probably correct, just that there's something wrong with the bluetooth
  subsystem.
It seems clear now that something is rotten in the bluetooth linux kingdom:
I don't see the bluetooth headset, neither in alsamixer nor in pavucontrol
( I had to add me to the pulse group to open pavucontrol)
I'll try now with Windows...
 

+1
What is the state of bluetooth headset in linux ?


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Re: Upgrade problem

2012-02-16 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis

Pada 16 Februari 2012 5:27 PTG, Petr Osanve Vytovtov
osanve...@gmail.com menulis:
 Hello!

 I use Debian testing amd64 and I have next problem.
 When I write command aptitude upgrade it returns next:
 Resolving dependencies...
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 71 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
 Command aptitude update doesn't help.
 Why is it so?

 Thanks in advance!

because you used aptitude to prevent incompatibility on certain apps
on your debian testing.

you are using testing, remember.

if you brave enough, try 'aptitude full-upgrade'

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Re: Upgrade problem

2012-02-16 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 16/02/12 20:27, Petr Osanve Vytovtov wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I use Debian testing amd64 and I have next problem.
 When I write command aptitude upgrade it returns next:
 /Resolving dependencies...
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and *71 not upgraded*.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used./
 Command aptitude update doesn't help.
 Why is it so?
 
 Thanks in advance!


dist-upgrade



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Re: Get to the bottom of what is running my networks

On Mi, 15 feb 12, 22:13:07, Harry Putnam wrote:
 
 The second subnet is not really expected to be used for full lan/wan
 networking just yet.  The ethernet address on LOCALHOST matching the
 second subnet 192.168.2.0/24 is on eth1, and is really only being used
 to access a pet router (TP-Link WR1043ND) I am playing with using
 openwrt OS software.

Unless ifupdown is smart enough (don't know, you have to research this) 
the second DHCP might override the default gateway of the first[1]. 
Assuming you may want to connect other devices to the OpenWrt you 
probably don't want to tinker with it's DHCP server and should handle 
this on the client side. Useful reading:

man interfaces
man dhclient.conf

[1] first and second in quotes because I have no idea how ifupdown 
decides which is the first interface (file order? activation order?)

BTW, in a similar situation as yours I decided to connect the OpenWrt 
device (Asus WL 500gP v2) directly to the gateway via one of the 
lan[2] ports and with a static IP in the same subnet. This way I can 
use it as just another device on my lan and plan to use it as DNS and 
web server.

[2] most devices of this type actually implement the wan and lan via 
vlans and it's very under OpenWrt to disable this functionality and use 
the wan port as just another switch port.

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Re: Need help dealing with the demise of qpopper

On Mi, 15 feb 12, 18:17:11, Paul E Condon wrote:
 
 Thanks but ...  What is dovecot? And which host is it to be installed?

You asked for replacements to qpopper and this is what I suggested. See 
'apt-cache show dovecot-pop3d' for more info.

To make even more precise suggestions you need to provide more info 
about the qpopper side. You mentioned that all you needed was to 
install it, which probably means it automagically picked up some 
existing mail storage on the same computer. Please provide more info 
about it and how new messages arrive there.

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Re: Upgrade problem

2012-02-16 Thread Petr Osanve Vytovtov


On 02/16/12 13:59, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:

Pada 16 Februari 2012 5:27 PTG, Petr Osanve Vytovtov
osanve...@gmail.com  menulis:

Hello!

I use Debian testing amd64 and I have next problem.
When I write command aptitude upgrade it returns next:
Resolving dependencies...
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 71 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
Command aptitude update doesn't help.
Why is it so?

Thanks in advance!

because you used aptitude to prevent incompatibility on certain apps
on your debian testing.

you are using testing, remember.

if you brave enough, try 'aptitude full-upgrade'


Thanks! aptitude full-upgrade solved the problem.


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Re: Re (3): Display on IBM ThinkPad A22m

On Jo, 16 feb 12, 11:49:35, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Mi, 15 feb 12, 16:29:13, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
  From:   Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com
  Date:   Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:26:42 +0200
   I'd rather have the full Xorg.0.log :)
  
  http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Xorg.0.log
 
 (II) R128(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz
 (II) R128(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 50.00-70.00 Hz
 (WW) R128(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
 (II) R128(0): Clock range:  12.50 to 250.00 MHz
 
 It seems to me like Xorg is not detecting your monitor and is using 
 default values. You probably only need a section Monitor with hsync, 
 vrefresh and dimensions (if you care about a correct DPI).

On a second thought, maybe you should try again without an xorg.conf.

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FAI Squeeze and SPARC

2012-02-16 Thread Denny Schierz

hi,

I try to get FAI working for my SPARC machines and build a own kernel and let 
the kernel create the initrd. The most problem is the size of the tftp 
bootimage, which does not exceed 9.5MB, otherwise it can't load anymore.

The complete SPARC environment was create under the target (config + NFSRoot)  
and copied to the real FAI Server (X86). Also some FAI initrd files I copied to 
my own initrd. 
Now I hang on the boot process:

[...]
[   69.947437] tg3 :0c:04.1: eth3: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex
[   70.038007] tg3 :0c:04.1: eth3: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX
[   70.423596] tg3 :09:04.0: eth0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex
[   70.511857] tg3 :09:04.0: eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX
[   72.884113] . OK
[   74.409930] IP-Config: Got DHCP answer from 192.168.1.1, my address is 
192.168.1.5
[   74.664458] IP-Config: Complete:
[   74.706924]  device=eth3, addr=192.168.1.5, mask=255.255.255.0, 
gw=192.168.1.1,
[   74.804398]  host=template.rbg.foobar, domain=rbg.foobar, 
nis-domain=(none),
[   74.947630]  bootserver=192.168.1.1, rootserver=192.168.1.1, 
rootpath=/srv/fai-sparc/nfsroot
[   75.066827] Warning: unable to open an initial console.
[   75.180306] udev[73]: starting version 164


BusyBox v1.17.1 (Debian 1:1.17.1-8) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
(initramfs)

[...]

the command line:

boot net3:dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot:192.168.1.1:/srv/fai-sparc/nfsroot 
ip=eth3:

NFS itself is working:

(initramfs) mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
none on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=2071464k,nr_inodes=258933,mode=755)
none on /dev/pts type devpts 
(rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=10240k,mode=755)
none on /dev/pts type devpts 
(rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
(initramfs) mkdir /mnt
(initramfs) nfsmount 192.168.1.1:/srv/fai-sparc/nfsroot /mnt
(initramfs) ls /mnt
live
(initramfs) 


If I put into the command line boot=live than:

[...]
[   77.044287] Sending DHCP and RARP requests .
[   79.036276] tg3 :0c:04.1: eth3: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex
[   79.126838] tg3 :0c:04.1: eth3: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX
[   79.219337] tg3 :09:04.0: eth0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex
[   79.307565] tg3 :09:04.0: eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX
[   81.444262] ., OK
[   82.973979] IP-Config: Got RARP answer from 192.168.1.1, my address is 
192.168.1.5
[   83.228600] IP-Config: Complete:
[   83.271074]  device=eth3, addr=192.168.1.5, mask=255.255.255.0, 
gw=192.168.1.1,
[   83.368550]  host=template.rbg.foobar, domain=rbg.foobar, 
nis-domain=(none),
[   83.511783]  bootserver=192.168.1.1, rootserver=192.168.1.1, 
rootpath=/srv/fai-sparc/nfsroot
[   83.630980] Warning: unable to open an initial console.
[   83.78] udev[73]: starting version 164
[   84.309317] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[   84.387304] Call Trace:
[   84.419388]  [0045b8f8] do_exit+0xa8/0x6bc
[   84.482394]  [0045bf7c] do_group_exit+0x70/0xa8
[   84.551142]  [0045bfcc] SyS_exit_group+0x18/0x28
[   84.621044]  [00405fd4] linux_sparc_syscall32+0x34/0x40
[   84.698955] Press Stop-A (L1-A) to return to the boot prom
[...]


So I have something missed ... 

any suggestions?

It seems, that there must be a problem with init.

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Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Neidorff

On Wednesday 15 February 2012 2:01:22 pm green wrote:
 Mark Neidorff wrote at 2012-02-14 17:45 -0600:
 
 When you purchased the server on which you run Lenny, did you know for sure
 that the installation would go smoothly and all hardware would work
 correctly?  What if today you needed another system on which to run Debian
 and knew that you did not have time to troubleshoot any hardware problems?
 You could get the same as what you have now, but what if it is no longer
 available?  Wouldn't it be helpful to find a vendor that provided a
 hardware table for each system with information about Linux mainline
 kernel versions, drivers, and firmware?  Like, this SATA controller is
 supported since Linux v2.6.29 with the ahci driver.  So in that case you
 could look at their site, compare with the kernel version in Debian
 stable, and know with reasonable certainty that this hardware will just
 work with Debian stable.  Or that you need to consider a kernel in
 backports, etc.
 

Yes.  I knew because, for a server, I bought slightly behind the curve.  For 
the server, I knew that I didn't need the latest and gretest, so I was able to 
look at hardware that had been on the market for about a year and check 
compatibility easily. Then the install just worked.

IMO, in getting the latest and greatest can be as much of an ego thing as a 
productivity thing.  Question is:  what are your specific needs going to be?  
That will determine the power and features that you need.


 Many vendors mention various versions of Windows on their hardware pages,
 but nothing about Linux.  So as a consumer, do I just blindly assume that,
 although the vendor apparently does not care enough about Linux to even
 mention it, that it will all just work?  Or those that mention Linux,
 but no kernel versions: will the kernel in Debian stable work?  Or those
 with Linux drivers available for download, do I need to maintain
 out-of-tree drivers (remember I mentioned a maintenance burden)?

Here's another way of looking at the same thing.  Other M$  require that 
hardware goes through a certification process before it gets the works 
with... sticker.  They have a roll-out scheudle of once every few years.  Is 
that what you want?  That costs the consumer $$$.  Are you willing to spend 
for that?

 
 Now, because of the implication that hardware (as with your server, Mark)
 will all just work with Debian (and that my post/research is just
 silly/trolling), I will quickly mention nvidia, fglrx, and ralink wireless,
 all problematic a while back.  I have had a Thinkpad T61 with a PSTN modem
 for 4 years, it has never worked (Debian amd64); I hope to try again when
 I upgrade to wheezy.  Okay, so now someone might say well, of course
 video, winmodems, and wireless will cause some trouble sometimes.  These
 mini-pcs... any of them have onboard video hardware?  Or come with
 wireless hardware?
 
 And someone might say that many of the problems had in the past are
 resolved, and quite possible so.  So if I need a functional device now, do
 I need to just purchase one and shelve it for a few years before assuming
 Linux will work?  I understand that Linux has a history of better support
 for older hardware, and that is reasonable, but would that need to be so
 (as much) if vendor support was better?  And the Intel GM965 video on my
 T61 still does not quite work correctly for 3d applications, even after 4
 years.

True, audio and video devices have been less than perfectly supported in 
linux.  Look at why.  Video hardware goes through benchmark testing.  The 
ed's choice hardware does the best on the benchmarks and sells the best.  
So, the hardware is built to work best ON THE BENCHMARKS, but not necessarily 
in the real world.  So what linux faces is hardware that is tweaked to do well 
on benchmarks on a different OS.  This has lead to hardware manufacturers not 
releasing their code to linux, bucause they would reveal how they make the 
hardware look good on the benchmarks.  Audio is continuously being worked on.  
It is another difficult area for similar reasons.
 
 Okay, I could look through the specifications carefully and research eg.
 the wireless hardware, but what about when vendors change the chipset
 mid-model?

Yep.  that is always a problem with buying the latest and greatest.

 
 Am I being demanding here?  I want an absolutely functional Linux on a
 device, and I am willing to pay for it (I have mentioned no limit, though I
 do have a budget).  For those assuming I am needing tens or hundreds of
 whatever mini-pc I choose, no.  I only need a single mini-pc system.  More
 later, perhaps.  It is not for my own use, but at a location where tech
 support is not available, and where the system will quite likely be in use
 for 5+ years.

One question.  Do you expect the device to continue to be 100% functional when 
the infostructure around it will change over the next 5+ years?  That is not 
reasonable.  

 
 So to recap my

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Re: [OT] date is wrong

On Sb, 11 feb 12, 19:29:16, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 After reading your message, I found setting for sorting. I set it to
 sort with unread/read and now this problem is solved.

I took the easy way out and just corrected the date in the message and 
regenerated mutt's cache ;)

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Re: Need help dealing with the demise of qpopper

2012-02-16 Thread Chris Davies

Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
 I have looked into qpopper replacement options. I'm sure setting up a
 replacement will be easy for many, but for me it presents a
 challenge.

Happy to try and help you accept and overcome the challenge  :-)

I'm not familiar with qpopper or the alternative I'm about to suggest,
as I use dovecot/imap. However, popa3d seems to work here straight out
of the box. Admittedly, I've really only tried a trivial scenario, but
I was able to get email from /var/mail/* with local user authentication
derived from /etc/passwd.

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Re: FAI Squeeze and SPARC

2012-02-16 Thread Denny Schierz

hi,

I'm closer to success:

boot net3:dhcp  root=/dev/nfs boot=live  init=/init 
nfsroot:192.168.1.1:/srv/fai-sparc/nfsroot ip=eth3: debug


the live.log shows:

+ mount -t aufs -o 
noatime,noxino,dirs=/cow=rw:/live/image/live/filesystem.dir=rr aufs /root
mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: No such device
+ panic mount aufs on /root failed with option 
noatime,noxino,dirs=/cow=rw:/live/image/live/filesystem.dir=rr

cu denny

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[OT] Re: Installing debian, dual boot on 1 TB disk?

2012-02-16 Thread ACro

Quoting Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com:

 I'd say Hanlon's Razor explains it better :p
 
 Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by 
 stupidity.
 
 Kind regards,
 Andrei


Andrei,

thanks for replying; yes, you're probably right, and I'm not prone to support
conspiracy theories. But, de facto:

http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html
http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html

All the best,
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Re: Maintaining/resting gnome settings

2012-02-16 Thread Claudius Hubig

T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,

My wife uses gnome, but the problem is that her gnome settings goes 
berserk every now and then. It won't be long for her to find out this is 
not working as expect, then that is not working as expect. I use fluxbox 
instead of DM, so I don't know gnome well. So all I can do is to remove 
any files/directories under her home dir that vaguely seems to be gnome 
settings. 

Now she found that she couldn't open .rar files any more. I tested under 
my gnome, and it works fine for me. Problem is, I just removed all her 
gnome setting related files/directories only about a month ago, and now I 
have to do find/delete/re-config again. 

I really have enough now, and am seeking real solutions. 
How can I keep just what I configured under home, instead of having 
several humongous gnome configuration files/directories under home.

Please help. Any tip appreciated. 

How about making a little script? Gnome related configuration files
(Gnome 2.30) can usually be found here:

.gnome2/
.gnome2_private/
.gconf/
.gconfd/

maybe also

.config/

So you can either make a script that removes these directories and
puts the backup in place, or, even more fancy, have a look at vcsh,
which lets you manage those directories as git repositories. To get
an older version, you then have to simply check out the corresponding
commit.

Best regards,

Claudius
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Bind errors in syslog

2012-02-16 Thread Tony van der Hoff

From time to time, folloing appears in my syslog. Always in pairs, 
always 10 mins apart:


Feb 16 13:44:41 tony-lx inetd[1870]: tftp/udp: bind: Address already in use
Feb 16 13:54:41 tony-lx inetd[1870]: tftp/udp: bind: Address already in use

Any suggestions as to what I can do to track down the cause of these 
messages?

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Re: Need help dealing with the demise of qpopper

2012-02-16 Thread Paul E Condon

On 20120216_122003, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Mi, 15 feb 12, 18:17:11, Paul E Condon wrote:
  
  Thanks but ...  What is dovecot? And which host is it to be installed?
 
 You asked for replacements to qpopper and this is what I suggested. See 
 'apt-cache show dovecot-pop3d' for more info.
 
 To make even more precise suggestions you need to provide more info 
 about the qpopper side. You mentioned that all you needed was to 
 install it, which probably means it automagically picked up some 
 existing mail storage on the same computer. Please provide more info 
 about it and how new messages arrive there.

Please accept my sincere apologies. I am old, and was tired and
cranky.  Over night another suggestion has arrived which I tested
before writing this response. It works to my liking.

The messages that arrive at the host that had been running qpopper
have been generated by system software, e.g. aptitude, when something
needs to be reported to the owner/administrator* of the host. It does
not recieve mail from any other source. And if it did, I would like to
know of that because any email arriving there from an external source
would be evidence of a security problem. But, for now, it is not
reasonable that you waste your time understanding better the strange
workings of my mind. The apology is the important thing.

Best wishes, and thanks,
Paul

*It seems strange to think of myself as system administrator, but that
is what I must be in this situation, no matter how incompetent I am at
doing the work.


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Re: Need help dealing with the demise of qpopper

On Jo, 16 feb 12, 07:54:48, Paul E Condon wrote:
 
 Please accept my sincere apologies. I am old, and was tired and
 cranky.  Over night another suggestion has arrived which I tested
 before writing this response. It works to my liking.

Don't worry about it and glad you found something that suits your needs 
:)

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Re: Need help dealing with the demise of qpopper [SOLVED]

2012-02-16 Thread Paul E Condon

On 20120216_113002, Chris Davies wrote:
 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
  I have looked into qpopper replacement options. I'm sure setting up a
  replacement will be easy for many, but for me it presents a
  challenge.
 
 Happy to try and help you accept and overcome the challenge  :-)
 
 I'm not familiar with qpopper or the alternative I'm about to suggest,
 as I use dovecot/imap. However, popa3d seems to work here straight out
 of the box. Admittedly, I've really only tried a trivial scenario, but
 I was able to get email from /var/mail/* with local user authentication
 derived from /etc/passwd.
 
 Chris

The package, popa3d, allows me to pick up email from the host that had
been running qpopper using fetchmail and my pre-existing .fetchmailrc
. I could have been using popa3d long before this, but didn't know of
its existence.  Comparison of the documentation for the two indicates
that it is not an exact replacement for qpopper. Qualcomm popper,
qpopper, has extra features that make it 'better' than plain POP3.
But whatever the extra features are, I must not have been using them,
It works for me. Thanks.

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Re: Upgrade problem

2012-02-16 Thread Lisi

On Thursday 16 February 2012 10:06:29 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 16/02/12 20:27, Petr Osanve Vytovtov wrote:
  Hello!
 
  I use Debian testing amd64 and I have next problem.
  When I write command aptitude upgrade it returns next:
  /Resolving dependencies...
  No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
  0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and *71 not
  upgraded*. Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be
  used./
  Command aptitude update doesn't help.
  Why is it so?
 
  Thanks in advance!

 dist-upgrade

The OP says that he is using aptitude.  dist-upgrade is therefore not correct.  
As Umarzuki Mochlis says, it should be full-upgrade.  dist-upgrade is for 
apt-get.

Lisi


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Re: free software mini pc

Joe wrote at 2012-02-16 02:43 -0600:
 On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:14:50 -0600 green wrote:
  The question is, how can I be reasonably sure before the purchase?
  In many cases the information is unavailable or difficult to find.
 
 Because it mostly doesn't exist. If you were given one of these machines
 and an Internet connection, how much time would you expect to need
 before you were willing to issue a guarantee, on which other people
 would base purchasing decisions, that *everything* worked as expected?

You suggest that it would take an unreasonable amount of time, then later you 
suggest/request that I do for the sake of other Linux users.  Either way 
(read on)...

 For how long would you issue the guarantee, given the slight but
 non-zero chance that something is dependent on a bug which has security
 issues, which might therefore change even in Stable?

I understand that Linux is a moving target.  But is it really so difficult to 
just say that yes, we tested this device with Linux kernel version whatever 
and tested the following items?

There are several 100% free Linux distributions available (I have looked at 
Parabola and BLAG); just running one of those and testing would do the trick, 
correct?

 When you do settle on something, will you test it exhaustively and
 document the results on the Net?

If possible, I will do so.  Of course, one reason this discussion started is 
that I do not feel that I have extra time to deal with hardware troubles, but 
I will do my best to at least document what works, and more if possible.

 Because that's where the information comes from which you're looking for at 
 the moment, and you can help future Debian users if you do. We'll get no 
 help from manufacturers, until they get desperate enough to scratch around 
 for the last few percent of potential customers.
 
 Hardware compatibility happens in the MS world because the boot is on
 the other foot, in that manufacturers have no choice but to engineer
 their products to work with Windows, and modify them if problems are
 found. No such incentive exists (yet) for Linux compatibility.

So although niche markets exist and there are niche manufacturers to fill (at 
least some of) those markets, you suggest that none exists to fill this one.  
As I have said previously: I would be satisfied, but disappointed, to be told 
that no, there is no vendor providing a reasonable guarantee of mainline 
Linux support.  Your message has come closest so far to doing that; thanks.


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Re: Upgrade problem

2012-02-16 Thread Mika Suomalainen

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Hi,

According to the manual page, dist-upgrade is alias for full-upgrade.

Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday 16 February 2012 10:06:29 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 16/02/12 20:27, Petr Osanve Vytovtov wrote:
  Hello!
 
  I use Debian testing amd64 and I have next problem.
  When I write command aptitude upgrade it returns next:
  /Resolving dependencies...
  No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
  0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and *71 not
  upgraded*. Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be
  used./
  Command aptitude update doesn't help.
  Why is it so?
 
  Thanks in advance!

 dist-upgrade

The OP says that he is using aptitude.  dist-upgrade is therefore not
correct.
As Umarzuki Mochlis says, it should be full-upgrade.  dist-upgrade is
for
apt-get.

Lisi


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Re: Sticky bit on device files?

2012-02-16 Thread Kelly Clowers

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:39, Peter Lebbing pe...@digitalbrains.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 Since some time I get the message
 swapon: [...]: insecure permissions 1660, 0660 suggested.

 [1] is related to this. I'm not worried, but there are two things I wonder:

 1) Foremost, what does the sticky bit on character or block device files even
 _mean_? I'm guessing it's meaningless, but I wonder. My Google fu comes up
 empty. paranoid mode It's a big cover up? /paranoid mode ;P

POSIX does not specify a behavior for the S_ISVTX bit being set on a
file: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/chmod.html

It seems that Linux ignores it on files (not true on HP-UX and Solaris).
Device files don't seem to be any different in that regard.

But I admit I don't know for sure.

 2) How come the sticky bit is set for a whole bunch of character and block
 devices? Grepping through udev rules didn't shed light on it. I didn't feel 
 like
 reading all rules manually, hoping somebody already knows.

Sounds odd. I don't have access to my Debian box right now, but I don't
really remember seeing any sticky bits in there. There is an OpenSuSE
box here, it has sticky bit on /dev/shm, but that is it.

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new earphone/headset arrival

2012-02-16 Thread Ben Xiu

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Re: free software mini pc

Stefan Monnier wrote at 2012-02-15 20:19 -0600:
 The same should hold for the Fit-PC3 (tho you may want to check their
 forums first, since support for some particular features like the IR
 interface or the watchdog may not all be supported by the current
 kernel).  While they don't guarantee that the stock kernels supports all
 the hardware, they do care about GNU/Linux support and provide fairly
 good information on the forums about the available support, so you can
 make up your mind before actually buying the unit.

The Fit-PC3 requires non-free fglrx for radeon hardware?
http://www.fit-pc.com/wiki/index.php/Fit-PC3:_Installing_Linux_Mint_12
http://www.fit-pc.com/fit-pc3/docs/fit-PC3-specifications.pdf


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Re: display to remote machine

2012-02-16 Thread Dougie Nisbet


On 12/02/2012 21:34, T o n g wrote:

Hi,

With the ssh/x-forwarding, I seems to have lost the ability to sent my
local xdisplay to remote machine. How can I do it?


I gave up with this when I discovered I could usually achieve the same 
thing using

ssh -X hostname

and then running the app on the destination machine. Perhaps nohuping it 
will be a workaround.


Dougie


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Re: Sticky bit on device files?

2012-02-16 Thread Rick Thomas



I tried it on a couple of Debian Squeeze machines and only saw
shm d
Which makes sense.

What release are you running?

Rick


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Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-16 Thread Andrew McGlashan


Okay, just a few cents from me.

I don't think you can ever rely on a machine having full main line 
kernel support one day, still having it 3 or 4 years down the track.


The drivers change, some disappear too -- there is never going to be any 
guarantees.  The same goes for all sorts of packages that you might run 
as well.


I had some small ARM machines which worked very well on Lenny, but they 
are terrible on a very similar Squeeze install.  As newer distros come 
about and the Linux kernel gets larger and larger, there are all sorts 
of reasons why an older machine won't be suitable without going for a 
very custom setup with lots of thinning out of the kernel.  Too much 
work to do that.


In history, I remember a P133 machine being quite powerful and it was 
at the time, try running anything recent on such a machine today and 
you'll be so let down.  You get more RAM on a portable tablet these days 
or even a basic smart phone, forget about the processing power, hahaha.


Your ideal solution would be great, but it isn't likely to be fulfilled 
and if it ever is, then I wouldn't think you'll get all that much 
longevity from it.


Okay, now I'm going to do a simple car analogy thing -- not that 
related, but hey, bear with me.  My first Holden Commodore was a VS 
Series II model.  When I got that car, I was advised to buy the newest 
Commodore I could afford (I already decided on a Commodore).  After a 
few years it suffered a transmission problem and it was too expensive to 
fix, so I replaced it with a VT Series II.  In time I ended up with my 
current car, which is an MY10 VE.  At every point, the newer car was 
much better than the previous car in so many ways -- even though it was 
still the same basic range of vehicle.  I suggest you might take the 
same approach with computer hardware, buy the best you can afford that 
meets as many of your aims as possible today, understand it won't last 
forever and plan for a replacement later, you are sure to find so much 
better value down the track.


Heck, I may as well take this a little further.  My Galaxy S i9000 
mobile cost near $800 and now a brand new replacement of the exact same 
model is available under $400, but the S2 is so much better and under 
$600 with double the warranty [proper legitimate AU stock, not imported 
from overseas with limited warranty and support].  Sure, my i9000 is 
still good, but if I was to be buying a phone right now, I wouldn't go 
past the S2 ... of course I have dreams for the S3 or maybe the Galaxy Note.


Anyway, back to the main point of this thread.  I hope you find a 
suitable device that matches your criteria as much as possible, or even 
fully.  But don't count on it lasting for more than a few years without 
you pulling your hair out, hoping for a faster, better and far more 
efficient device.


Oh and the raspberrypi with 1GB at $35  hmmm I don't think so. 
Looks like a nice toy, but far too low in the memory stakes today at 
256MB for $35.


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Mark Neidorff wrote at 2012-02-16 04:38 -0600:
On Wednesday 15 February 2012 2:01:22 pm green wrote:
When you purchased the server on which you run Lenny, did you know for sure
that the installation would go smoothly and all hardware would work
correctly?

Yes. I knew because, for a server, I bought slightly behind the curve.
For
the server, I knew that I didn't need the latest and gretest, so I was able
to
look at hardware that had been on the market for about a year and check
compatibility easily. Then the install just worked.

I don't really get how you check compatibility easily. Are there any
particular resources you use?

IMO, in getting the latest and greatest can be as much of an ego thing as a
productivity thing.

True, but irrelevant. I do not care about latest and greatest, unless
fanless is considered as such.

Question is: what are your specific needs going to be? That will determine
the power and features that you need.

Okay. Basic desktop use, fanless. 100% supported by free software.
802.11g, ethernet, 2.5 inch bay and SATA port, USB, audio with microphone
port, video out. Fairly solid hardware.

Many vendors mention various versions of Windows on their hardware pages,
but nothing about Linux. So as a consumer, do I just blindly assume that,
although the vendor apparently does not care enough about Linux to even
mention it, that it will all just work?

Here's another way of looking at the same thing. Other M$ require that
hardware goes through a certification process before it gets the works
with... sticker. They have a roll-out scheudle of once every few years. Is
that what you want? That costs the consumer $$$. Are you willing to spend
for that?

It probably depends on how much it costs. A manufacturer could probably only
guarantee support for a particular kernel version, and that does not seem so
difficult to me.

True, audio and video devices have been less than perfectly supported in
linux. Look at why. Video hardware goes through benchmark testing. The
ed's choice hardware does the best on the benchmarks and sells the best.
So, the hardware is built to work best ON THE BENCHMARKS, but not necessarily
in the real world. So what linux faces is hardware that is tweaked to do
well
on benchmarks on a different OS. This has lead to hardware manufacturers not
releasing their code to linux, bucause they would reveal how they make the
hardware look good on the benchmarks.

Okay, thanks for the explanation. But yet there are audio and video devices
that do work with 100% free software. So the hardware is out there.

Okay, I could look through the specifications carefully and research eg.
the wireless hardware, but what about when vendors change the chipset
mid-model?

Yep. that is always a problem with buying the latest and greatest.

What? If the chipset changes mid-model, then identifying that device will be
forever more difficult, regardless of whether it is recent hardware. This is
one reason why I feel it is difficult to guarantee support *before* I have
the device in my hands, versus testing it *after*.

It is not for my own use, but at a location where tech support is not
available, and where the system will quite likely be in use for 5+ years.

One question. Do you expect the device to continue to be 100% functional
when
the infostructure around it will change over the next 5+ years? That is not
reasonable.

The desktop I intend to replace is more than 5 years old and it is still
capable of running squeeze. It has an Abit KR7A-133R motherboard (reviewed
2002-04-12) and a AMD Athlon XP 1900+ (introduced 2001-11-04). Both
available over 9 years ago. The only hardware changes that might be more
recent are PCI wireless and a PATA hard drive. It also has much of what I
mentioned above: ethernet, USB, audio, video out, 802.11g (may be more
recent)--but not fanless, SATA, or 100% free software support.

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/motherboards/article.php/1008771/ABIT-KR7A-133R-KT266A-Motherboard-Review.htm
http://techreport.com/articles.x/3086/1

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Re: free software mini pc

Stefan Monnier wrote at 2012-02-16 08:10 -0600:
  The question is, how can I be reasonably sure before the purchase?  In many 
  cases the information is unavailable or difficult to find.
 
 Agreed, it's a serious problem.  E.g. for fit-pc2 I actually forgot to
 mention that the video driver is not well supported by stock kernel and
 Xorg since it's the infamous gma500.  It's actually reasonably well
 supported by the KMS code now (since Linux-3.0, more or less) but there's
 still basically no hardware acceleration support.

I seriously considered a fit-PC2 until I learned about the trouble with 
GMA500.
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/

 Of course, the manufacturer distributes the GNU/Linux version of the
 product with a proprietary driver which is hell to get working on
 anything else than that specific Xorg+kernel combination.

I like to avoid that head-banging experience and the associated why did I 
ever purchase this garbage.


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Re: Get to the bottom of what is running my networks

2012-02-16 Thread keitho


 You can check which packages are uninstalled but still have their
 config hanging around with aptitude search '?config-files'.

 You can then run apt-get purge package to get rid of the config
 one particular package or apt-get purge $(aptitude search
 '?config-files' -F '%p to get rid of all the leftover configs.


Thanks for posting this gem!

However, I could be wrong, but I think there is a typo. Might just be how
my web translation came across. The last command should be:

$sudo apt-get purge $(aptitude search '?config-files' -F %p)

No tick in front of the %p and a close-parenthesis at the end. One might
also use the --dry-run option first as well just in case...

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Re: free software mini pc

Andrew McGlashan wrote at 2012-02-16 11:16 -0600:
 I don't think you can ever rely on a machine having full main line
 kernel support one day, still having it 3 or 4 years down the track.

In another message, I just mentioned the desktop to be replaced, which has an 
Abit KR7A-133R motherboard and AMD Athlon XP 1900+ processor, both available 
over 9 years ago.  This computer is still capable of running squeeze quite 
comfortably.


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Re: Get to the bottom of what is running my networks

2012-02-16 Thread Bob Proulx

kei...@strucktower.com wrote:
  You can check which packages are uninstalled but still have their
  config hanging around with aptitude search '?config-files'.
 
  You can then run apt-get purge package to get rid of the config
  one particular package or apt-get purge $(aptitude search
  '?config-files' -F '%p to get rid of all the leftover configs.
 
 Thanks for posting this gem!
 
 However, I could be wrong, but I think there is a typo. Might just be how
 my web translation came across. The last command should be:
 
 $sudo apt-get purge $(aptitude search '?config-files' -F %p)
 
 No tick in front of the %p and a close-parenthesis at the end. One might
 also use the --dry-run option first as well just in case...

I always use dpkg -l to get the list and then purge those.  Using dpkg
directly is s much faster that way.

  dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print$2}'

And if that list looks reasonable then purge it.

  dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print$2}')

There are fancier ways to do it using fancier tools that are perhaps
more precise and accurate instruments.  Here is my favorite to get the
same list as the above.

  grep-status -sPackage -n -FStatus deinstall ok config-files

Bob


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Re: Sticky bit on device files?

2012-02-16 Thread Peter Lebbing

On 16/02/12 17:54, Rick Thomas wrote:
 
 I tried it on a couple of Debian Squeeze machines and only saw
 shm d
 Which makes sense.

Correct, that is also what I see on Squeeze boxes.

 What release are you running?

This is on Wheezy (testing). This behaviour is relatively new in testing.

Greets,

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Re: Bind errors in syslog

2012-02-16 Thread Bob Proulx

Tony van der Hoff wrote:
 From time to time, folloing appears in my syslog. Always in pairs,
 always 10 mins apart:
 
 Feb 16 13:44:41 tony-lx inetd[1870]: tftp/udp: bind: Address already in use
 Feb 16 13:54:41 tony-lx inetd[1870]: tftp/udp: bind: Address already in use
 
 Any suggestions as to what I can do to track down the cause of these
 messages?

First, look in /etc/inetd.conf for a line configuring tftp. You might
find a line there that looks similar to this:

  tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s 
/var/lib/tftpboot

Then additionally you have probably installed one of the available
tftpd packages in Debian and it started a daemon standalone.

  dpkg -l | grep tftp

For example you may have installed tftpd-hpa.  In which case it is
already running a daemon.

  $ ps -e | grep tftp
   2154 ?00:00:00 in.tftpd

In this case I think you have already been running it standalone so I
would continue with it that way.  The inetd is reporting the error but
it is the extra one.  The standalone is running first and the inetd
one can't bind to the port.  The inetd keeps retrying periodically but
it fails since the standalone one is continuing just fine.

Comment that tftp line out of the /etc/inetd.conf and tell inetd to
re-read the file with a SIGHUP.  That should keep things in a
consistent state and stop the messages to the syslog file.

After editing /etc/inetd.conf the inetd needs to be signaled to read
the updated file by sending it a SIGHUP signal.  There are a variety
of methods to do this.  Old timers would 'ps -ef | grep inetd' and
then 'kill -HUP 32768' the proccess id.  Most today would run the init
script 'service openbsd-inetd reload'.  A few would know about the
very spiffy Debian update-inetd command (designed for package postinst
scripts) and would use it to do both at the same time.

  update-inetd --comment-chars '#' --disable tftp

Bob


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Re: Sticky bit on device files?

2012-02-16 Thread Peter Lebbing

Grepping the debian udev source gives:

udev/udevd.c:
udev/udev-rules.c:
udev/udev-event.c:
/* set sticky bit, so we do not remove the node on module unload */

And in line 426-429 of udev/udev-node.c, version 175-3, function
int udev_node_remove(struct udev_device *dev):

if (stats.st_mode  01000) {
info(udev, device node '%s' has sticky bit set, skip removal\n, 
devnode);
goto out;
}

I think the idea is that if a kernel module is unloaded, or perhaps more
generally, on an udev remove action, the device file in the /dev directory is
kept. udev_node_remove() is only called from the function
udev_event_execute_rules().

So perhaps the sticky bit means nothing to, say, the kernel, and udev gives its
own purpose and interpretation to it.

But this is conjecture.

Peter.

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Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-16 Thread Joe

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:53:36 -0600
green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote:


  Your message has
 come closest so far to doing that; thanks.

You're welcome, I wish I could offer more hope, but as users of an
operating system most people have never heard of, we get to suck it and
see.

Whichever way you go, I recommend keeping a recent version of Knoppix
handy. A lot of hardware troubles are due, not to missing or inadequate
software, but to limitations in hardware detection in standard Debian.
Knoppix is rightly famous for its hardware handling, and the Debian
installer developers will never have the time to apply the kind of
effort that Herr Knopper expends on this.

A lot of the time, Knoppix will run a 'difficult' bit of hardware, but
using mainstream modules that the Debian installer has not seen the
need for. It is (mostly) then a matter of tweaking the Debian
installation to match.

Joe


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Re (4): Display on IBM ThinkPad A22m

2012-02-16 Thread peasthope

From:   Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com
Date:   Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:26:03 +0200
 On a second thought, maybe you should try again without an xorg.conf.

After removing /etc/xorg.conf and executing startx again, this is the fresh log.
  http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Xorg.0.log

The lines mentioning the default monitor are gone.  Given the panel resolutions 
specified by IBM, 'Default mode 800x600' is wrong.  

Regards,   ... Peter E.

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Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-16 Thread Joe

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:16:09 +1100
Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote:

 
 I had some small ARM machines which worked very well on Lenny, but
 
 In history, I remember a P133 machine being quite powerful and it
 was at the time, 

I had one of the first ARM computers, an Acorn Archimedes running a 4MHz
(!) ARM1 with half a meg of RAM. I remember upgrading to a 12MHz ARM3
and being rather impressed, and also upgrading the RAM to 4MB and
installing a 40MB (yes, 'megabyte') MFM hard drive. The joy of escaping
from floppies! Mind you, the OS was in ROM, so you had the desktop up
within two or three seconds of power-on.

In its 4MHz incarnation, it was (briefly) the fastest PC around,
beating the 16MHz 386 machines of the day.

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Re: [OT] Re: Installing debian, dual boot on 1 TB disk?

2012-02-16 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 16/02/12 23:37, ACro wrote:
 Quoting Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com:
 
 I'd say Hanlon's Razor explains it better :p

 Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by 
 stupidity.

 Kind regards,
 Andrei
 
 
 Andrei,
 
 thanks for replying; yes, you're probably right, and I'm not prone to support
 conspiracy theories. But, de facto:
 
 http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html
 http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html

Theories should not be believed, though factual conspiracies abound. In
this case however...:-
http://benjaminkerensa.com/2011/10/23/uefi-headaches-begin-linux
(don't let the title mislead you)

 
 All the best,
 Andrew
 
 
Sorry - if this is just repeating earlier suggestion, but I'm pushed for
time and couldn't locate earlier fragments of this thread.

Have you tried the UEFI install techniques discussed here:-
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Install_GRUB2_in_.28U.29EFI_systems


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Re: Get to the bottom of what is running my networks

2012-02-16 Thread Harry Putnam

Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes:

[...]

 Unless ifupdown is smart enough (don't know, you have to research this) 
 the second DHCP might override the default gateway of the first[1]. 
 Assuming you may want to connect other devices to the OpenWrt you 
 probably don't want to tinker with it's DHCP server and should handle 
 this on the client side. Useful reading:

Andrei suggests:
 man interfaces
 man dhcpclient.conf

Thanks.
What you feared above, did seem to be happening.  But aren't you
supposed to be able to set gateway in /etc/network/interfaces?

`man interfaces' seems to indicate that I could by adding a line like
 gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

to an interface.

But:

Stealing an idea from Tom H and Bob P, I find even without setting a
gateway, if I add `auto' to the stanzas it seems to come up like I want
it to, and both interfaces can be start/stopped with
/etc/init.d/networking start/stop

/etc/network/interfaces now looks like this: 
 
  # The loopback network interface
  auto lo
  iface lo inet loopback
  
  # The primary network interface
  allow-hotplug eth0
  auto eth0
  iface eth0 inet dhcp
  
  # a secondary network interface
  allow-hotplug eth1
  auto eth1
  iface eth1 inet dhcp
   
And route -n shows what I wanted to see:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination  Gateway  Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
0.0.0.0  192.168.1.1  0.0.0.0 UG0  0 0 eth0
192.168.1.0  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0 eth0
192.168.2.0  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0 eth1

And it all survives rebooting.

Surprisingly, even when it was coming up with gateway in
192.168.2.0/24 network, it still seemed to work just fine.  Probably
due to having the pet router hooked up with its wan port facing the
subnet 192.168.1.0 lan, and lan port facing subnet 192.168.2.0 

[...]

 BTW, in a similar situation as yours I decided to connect the OpenWrt 
 device (Asus WL 500gP v2) directly to the gateway via one of the 
 lan[2] ports and with a static IP in the same subnet. This way I can 
 use it as just another device on my lan and plan to use it as DNS and 
 web server.

Interesting... I thought about trying that hookup at first, before
going the lan wan route on the test router.  I thought it would be
more like a real setup if I had it as transfer point between
192.168.1.0 and 192.168.2.0.

I expect to throw different stuff at it and watch reactions until I
learn enough about openwrt and iptables to trust my self to run my own
router at the main gateway with wan facing cable modem.

 [2] most devices of this type actually implement the wan and lan via 
 vlans and it's very under OpenWrt to disable this functionality and use 
 the wan port as just another switch port.

Thanks, and vlans is how this one defaults.

Veering a little off topic here but:

I'm curious when you say you are going to be using embedded openwrt on
a router to run a dns server; Do you mean an honest to god real DNS
server running bind/named (or similar).  I did notice that bind
software is available for recent builds of openwrt.

I don't know about it to hazard a guess myself but I guess you don't
think the small amount of available ram will be a factor in a dns
server or web server of your lans' proportions eh?

That would be a very nice kind of server to have... the size of a
smallish book, quiet, no fans running, not much heat... nice. 

I wonder if you'd know if mine could do the same by these two ouputs:

(TP-Link WR1043ND running very recent openwrt Using: 
openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-wr1043nd-v1-squashfs-factory.bin)

----   ---=---   -   

/proc/cpuinfo and `free'

cpuinfo
system type : Atheros AR9132 rev 2
machine : TP-LINK TL-WR1043ND
processor   : 0
cpu model   : MIPS 24Kc V7.4
BogoMIPS: 265.42
wait instruction: yes
microsecond timers  : yes
tlb_entries : 16
extra interrupt vector  : yes
hardware watchpoint : yes, count: 4, address/irw mask: [0x, 0x0e50, 
0x0088, 0x0360]
ASEs implemented: mips16
shadow register sets: 1
kscratch registers  : 0
core: 0
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available

----   ---=---   -   

free
 total used free   shared  buffers
Mem: 2941618872105440 1440
-/+ buffers:  1743211984
Swap:000


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Re: Get to the bottom of what is running my networks

2012-02-16 Thread Harry Putnam

Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:

[...]

Thanks for all those details ... very helpful

[...]

 To use /etc/init.d/networking, you can either change
 allow-hotplug to auto (or allow-auto) or add
 auto/allow-auto lines to the allow-hotplug ones (I've never
 tried the latter but Bob Proulx suggested it recently).

I can verify that it seems to work here:

route -n 

Kernel IP routing table
Destination  Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
0.0.0.0  192.168.1.  0.0.0.0 UG0  0 0 eth0
192.168.1.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0 eth0
192.168.2.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0 0 eth1


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Re: Upgrade problem

2012-02-16 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 17/02/12 02:41, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 According to the manual page, dist-upgrade is alias for full-upgrade.


Yes.
It is a recognised synonym with aptitude - it *also* works with apt.



 
 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 

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 Lisi
 
 
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Re: knoppix vs grml (free software mini pi)

Joe wrote at 2012-02-16 13:50 -0600:
 A lot of the time, Knoppix will run a 'difficult' bit of hardware, but
 using mainstream modules that the Debian installer has not seen the
 need for. It is (mostly) then a matter of tweaking the Debian
 installation to match.

Do you consider Knoppix hardware detection better than in grml?


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Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-16 Thread Dom


On 16/02/12 20:16, Joe wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:16:09 +1100
Andrew McGlashanandrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au  wrote:



I had some small ARM machines which worked very well on Lenny, but

In history, I remember a P133 machine being quite powerful and it
was at the time,


I had one of the first ARM computers, an Acorn Archimedes running a 4MHz
(!) ARM1 with half a meg of RAM. I remember upgrading to a 12MHz ARM3
and being rather impressed, and also upgrading the RAM to 4MB and
installing a 40MB (yes, 'megabyte') MFM hard drive. The joy of escaping
from floppies! Mind you, the OS was in ROM, so you had the desktop up
within two or three seconds of power-on.

In its 4MHz incarnation, it was (briefly) the fastest PC around,
beating the 16MHz 386 machines of the day.


I had one of those Archimedes machines too, great to program, especally 
when the original Arthur OS was replaced with the first RISC OS.


Just one small correction, the Archimedes was originally fitted with an 
ARM2 chip. The ARM1 was mostly used in the prototype development 
systems, such as the ARM Co-processor for the BBC micro - which I was 
lucky enough to get my hands on for a while. It was fun to see the 
normal BBC Computer 32K message replaced with Acorn OS 4096K :-)


It cost around 4000 UKP in those days for the 4MB version.

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Re: Re (4): Display on IBM ThinkPad A22m

On Jo, 16 feb 12, 11:58:24, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
 From: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:26:03 +0200
  On a second thought, maybe you should try again without an xorg.conf.

 After removing /etc/xorg.conf and executing startx again, this is the fresh 
 log.
   http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/Xorg.0.log

 The lines mentioning the default monitor are gone.  Given the panel 
 resolutions 
 specified by IBM, 'Default mode 800x600' is wrong.  

Same problem, it's using some default values for the vertical refresh 
and the horizontal sync ranges, which don't match your hardware. I would 
suggest you put the correct ones in a file under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

Section Monitor
Identifier  Panel
HorizSync   xx-yy
VertRefresh xx-yy
DisplaySize xx yy # optional, the size in mm
EndSection

Kind regards,
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Re: Get to the bottom of what is running my networks

On Jo, 16 feb 12, 15:40:32, Harry Putnam wrote:
 
 I'm curious when you say you are going to be using embedded openwrt on
 a router to run a dns server; Do you mean an honest to god real DNS
 server running bind/named (or similar).  I did notice that bind
 software is available for recent builds of openwrt.

http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/dns.maradns
 
 I don't know about it to hazard a guess myself but I guess you don't
 think the small amount of available ram will be a factor in a dns
 server or web server of your lans' proportions eh?

Actually the size of the lan shouldn't have anything to do with it, but 
rather the expected traffic, which I expect to be very low.

 That would be a very nice kind of server to have... the size of a
 smallish book, quiet, no fans running, not much heat... nice. 
 
 I wonder if you'd know if mine could do the same by these two ouputs:

The specs are very similar to mine, but you will have to test for 
yourself. I was hoping to be able to use it for internet radio with MPD.
Unfortunately my favorite station is streaming in AAC and the processor 
is not powerful enough, but mp3 streams work great ;)

Kind regards,
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