Re: debmirror: saving old release before clean-up

2012-04-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Andre Majorel wrote:
> > Sneaky. I'll look if I can hack debmirror to avoid the copy.
> > Thanks.
> 
> hardlinks? (assuming it's the same filesystem)

On my system with local disks I think it took less than an hour to
copy the Lenny 48G of source and binaries for i386 and amd64
architectures.  I doubt it is worthwhile to try to hack the scripts to
avoid it just to save an hour of time.  Easier to just copy it and be
done with it.

Bob


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Re: Question to aptitude

2012-04-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
The according aptitude command is, e.g.,

  aptitude purge '~i3\.0\.1-.*'

if I'm not mistaken. '~i' searches only through installed packages.

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Re: PAE support in Debian6

2012-04-14 Thread Greg Madden


On Saturday 14 April 2012 12:20:18 pm Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:34:03 -0430, German Eduardo Jaber De Lima wrote:
> > What was the first stable Debian release that enabled PAE support
> > (bigmem kernel option)?
>
> The first?
>
> If we take we time-machine and according to the snapshot archive¹, there
> was a "-bigmem" kernel since 2.6.17 (dated on August 13th, 2006) which
> means... Sarge, then? :-?
>
> > Is it enabled by default in Debian6?
>
> It will be from Wheezy, AFAIK.
>
> In earlier versions... Mmm, I would better look at the image ISO content
> to see what's included in each of them, for instance:
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/list-cd/
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/list-dvd/
>
> Which seems to indicate the first CD does not contain the bigmem kernel
> while it is present in the first of the DVDs. If the kernel is there it
> may be preseded and thus triggered to be available at install time, at
> least when using the expert installer.
>
> ¹http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-686-bigmem/
>
> Greetings,
>
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One additional point, one can still install Debian without 'bigmem' support 
then install the correct kernel for your hardware, you just won't see all the 
memory during the install.

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Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:59:02 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:03:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> «In the interleaved reply style (also called "inline reply", "point-by-
>> point rebuttal", or, sometimes, "bottom posting")...»
>^^^
>> «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to a full or
>> partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is
>> sometimes used for inline-style replies, and indeed the two formats are
>> the same when only one point is being replied to.»
>^^^
>> There's little room for interpretations in the above paragraphs but as
>> you seem to disagree with that, I'd like to know what's what you
>> read/get from there, just out of curiosity.
> 
> i.e:
> 
> "Interleaved style is sometimes called "bottom posting" when only one
> point is being replied to."

Sigh.

P.S. I find quite hard to understand why there are users who despite 
consider my postings to be sort a "newbie killers" and "soft-mind 
perverters" are still replying to them. The only conclusion I can reach 
for this behaviour is that: 1/ my posts contain some kind of magnetic 
material that inevitably attracts them (though I haven't have found any 
trace of ferrite in the headers) or 2/ is just they want to make noise. I 
will have to deeply think in which of the both options hold the true. 
Mmmm...

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Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:06:02 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 03:55:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> I also followed "Linux Devices¹" (linux hardware related news) but has
>> been recently adquired by a big magazine and the feeds are now gone :-(
>> 
>> ¹http://www.linuxfordevices.com/
> 
> It seems to be back:
> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/rss.xml

I don't think so.

The last feed there is dated on "2012-02-03", which means no news since 2 
months.

Anyway, after reading this article¹ coming from one of the original 
magazine authors (and having verified what it says) , I'm very reluctant 
to trust "linuxfordevices.com" and I don't think I'm adding that RSS 
source anymore.

¹http://www.angel.org/gadgetsense/?p=117

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Re: samba VFS Quota or Quota tool

2012-04-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:36:20 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

Sir, please, turn off html, I hardly can read your messages :-(

(correcting the quotes and trimming)

>> Then how about repartition the whole volume in small chunks? That way
>> you will limiting the available space by the partition size, and this
>> cannot be avoided, can be easily monitored, you will have more control
>> over the resources permission...
> 
> but i am using RAID 1, and if i divide the partition in few or many
> chunks it means i am creating more RAID 1 drives, is it practical ? i
> mean i never tried that , according to you experience what you say?

I suppose you are referring here to linux software raid (mdadm), right?

If that's the case, you can have the number of volume partitions under 
the RAID1 your system can manage. In fact, that's the usual setup, I 
mean, if you have two physical hard disks (sda and sdb), you'll have md0 
(sda1+sdb1) for /boot, md1 (sda2+sdb2) for /, md2 (sda3+sdb3) for /home, 
md3 (sda4+sdb4) for /var, etc... 

What is not a good idea is to share/mix "non-raided" partitions with 
"raided-ones" because an error in one of the disks will expose the 
running system. It is thus recommended to have all the partitions in a 
disk holding raid volumes inside a raid set.

But still... is this "a perfect" setup? Maybe not and some people would 
instead recommend adding LVM over the RAID 1 to make your disk layout 
even more flexible and configurable over the time. 

But note that's something that will add "two" extra layers of complexity 
in your configuration (first, the software raid and then, the LVM) and 
while that setup can be seen as an advantadge, unexperienced users could 
easily make fatal mistakes (with data loss) while setting it up. Again, I 
would prefer running whatever tests you need to do from a virtualized 
environment where you can break things without having to worry the day 
after :-)

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Re: Mozilla Firefox installed without package-management

2012-04-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 06:49:07 +0200, Andreas Glaeser wrote:

> Everyone who wants or needs improved HTML5-support can download Mozilla
> Firefox webbrowser here:
> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html You get improved
> rendering-speed, the optional 'do not track' feature and more for free.

There's also Mozilla repo in Debian with updated versions of the Mozilla 
programs:

http://mozilla.debian.net/

> Installation instructions are here:
> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Installing%20Firefox%20on%20Linux It
> is just a matter of unpacking the downloaded -.tar.bz2 archive in the
> home-directory and making launch-icons, which point to the executable,
> in the desktop-panel and/or directly on the desktop. 

I remember I had to do some "directory linking" to get the plugins I 
already had installed in the system working, but I'm on Lenny and I 
performed a system-wide installation.

> Finally set Firefox as the system-default browser under System
>/Preferences/Preferred Applications/Internet. It all works completely
> painlessly on 64 bit architecture, should do on 32 bit, too. The
> settings from your iceweasel-browser are transferred to firefox and re
>-used. So in my humble opinion there is really no need at all to
> backport the unbranded iceweasel from Wheezy.

Well, there's people who thinks the opposite and despite I also use the 
Mozilla packages, I prefer having both options, whether possible. In the 
end, more options means more freedom for the users. And here have to 
thanks both, Mozilla guys and Debian's Mozilla repo maintainers for 
provinding an easy way to install the Mozilla programs.

> If it is equally easy to setup thunderbird, then I will use that instead
> of the backported icedove, too and report this as a fix against my bug
> #640306. When you downloaded and installed Firefox, then please do read
> the Mozilla privacy policy: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy-policy
> then agree to it and sign up for their monthly newsletter.

IIRC, Thunderbird and Lightning were also plain easy to install.

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Re: PAE support in Debian6

2012-04-14 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:34:03 -0430, German Eduardo Jaber De Lima wrote:

> What was the first stable Debian release that enabled PAE support
> (bigmem kernel option)? 

The first?

If we take we time-machine and according to the snapshot archive¹, there 
was a "-bigmem" kernel since 2.6.17 (dated on August 13th, 2006) which 
means... Sarge, then? :-?

> Is it enabled by default in Debian6? 

It will be from Wheezy, AFAIK. 

In earlier versions... Mmm, I would better look at the image ISO content  
to see what's included in each of them, for instance:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/list-cd/
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/list-dvd/

Which seems to indicate the first CD does not contain the bigmem kernel 
while it is present in the first of the DVDs. If the kernel is there it 
may be preseded and thus triggered to be available at install time, at 
least when using the expert installer.

¹http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-686-bigmem/

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Re: problems with wifi bc43

2012-04-14 Thread Roman V.Leon.
> 2012/4/14 Roman V.Leon. :
>> Hello Gents,
>> Could you help me with my wifi card in laptop, please? I have broadcom
>> BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY controller, and I installed
>> "firmware-b43-lpphy-installer". Unfortunately when i'm trying turn my card
>> on, i'm getting a message:
>> "$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" > "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due
>> to RF-kill"
>> I dig google, but unfortunately I didn't find any helpful receipt to
>> manage this card work.
>>
>> Just in case - rfkill's output:
>> $ sudo rfkill list
>> 0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
>>        Soft blocked: no
>>        Hard blocked: no
>> 1: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth
>>        Soft blocked: no
>>        Hard blocked: yes
>> 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
>>        Soft blocked: no
>>        Hard blocked: yes
>>
>> I cracked my head, but i don't know how to deal with this issue.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> The ones that say Hard Blocked mean that either a physical hardware
> switch is turned off or it is disabled in the bios.
>
> --
> Mathew E. Enders
>
> "Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just
> part of the plumbing.  But that's OK, plumbers make good money."
> --Jeremy Allison

Mathew, all, i have found the source of the problem:
If i plug a cable into my wired NIC, my wireless card will be blocked.
That's how it works, i have never seen such things before, and i can't
find special BIOS option to change this strange behavior. Laptop model is
HP 625. I think this can be marked as "resolved" :-)

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Question to aptitude

2012-04-14 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi list!

I have just a little question to aptitude, and I think, it can be easily 
answered. 

The Problem: With the command "apt-get --purge remove 3.0.1-*" I can uninstall 
all packages containing 3.0.1-something. I use this for installing older 
kernels and headers as well as selfbuild kernel modules.

This works very well! 

But how can I do the same with aptitude? I suppose, aptitude is using regexp, 
but I am noz sure. And I am not well experienced with regexp. Is aptitude 
using regexp???

Any hints are welcome.

Best regards

Hans

P.S. 
If this is not the right place for asking such questions, please apologize and 
point me to the correct place. 

 


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Re: problems with wifi bc43

2012-04-14 Thread Mat Enders
2012/4/14 Roman V.Leon. :
> Hello Gents,
> Could you help me with my wifi card in laptop, please? I have broadcom
> BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY controller, and I installed
> "firmware-b43-lpphy-installer". Unfortunately when i'm trying turn my card
> on, i'm getting a message:
> "$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" > "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due
> to RF-kill"
> I dig google, but unfortunately I didn't find any helpful receipt to
> manage this card work.
>
> Just in case - rfkill's output:
> $ sudo rfkill list
> 0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
>        Soft blocked: no
>        Hard blocked: no
> 1: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth
>        Soft blocked: no
>        Hard blocked: yes
> 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
>        Soft blocked: no
>        Hard blocked: yes
>
> I cracked my head, but i don't know how to deal with this issue.
> Thanks in advance.
>

The ones that say Hard Blocked mean that either a physical hardware
switch is turned off or it is disabled in the bios.

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problems with wifi bc43

2012-04-14 Thread Roman V.Leon.
Hello Gents,
Could you help me with my wifi card in laptop, please? I have broadcom
BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY controller, and I installed
"firmware-b43-lpphy-installer". Unfortunately when i'm trying turn my card
on, i'm getting a message:
"$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" > "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due
to RF-kill"
I dig google, but unfortunately I didn't find any helpful receipt to
manage this card work.

Just in case - rfkill's output:
$ sudo rfkill list
0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes
2: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes

I cracked my head, but i don't know how to deal with this issue.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: [OT] Manually verifying PGP/MIME signature with GPG

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 03:53:19PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 02:43:51PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > > If you don't know, please refrain from guessing!
> > 
> > Refrain yourself from reading :-/
> 
> I'm not at significant risk of being (unintentionally) misled by you: newbies
> are.
+1

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Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:03:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> «In the interleaved reply style (also called "inline reply", "point-by-
> point rebuttal", or, sometimes, "bottom posting")...»
   ^^^ 
> «In the "bottom-posting" style, the reply is appended to a full or 
> partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is 
> sometimes used for inline-style replies, and indeed the two formats are 
> the same when only one point is being replied to.»
   ^^^
> There's little room for interpretations in the above paragraphs but as 
> you seem to disagree with that, I'd like to know what's what you read/get 
> from there, just out of curiosity.

i.e:

"Interleaved style is sometimes called "bottom posting" when only one
point is being replied to."


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Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 01:38:59PM -0700, Al Eridani wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Chris Bannister
>  wrote:
> 
> > But you said above, and I quote:
> >
> > 'A bottom posting style does not mean "all the stuff goes to the bottom"
> >
> > and now you are saying in response to
> >
> > "So what's it called when you plonk everything at the bottom, oops
> > sorry, at the very end? End posting?"
> >
> > That's also "bottom posting".
> >
> > Huh??
> 
> You need to brush up on "necessary" and "sufficient" conditions...

Not sure what you mean.

Does "all the stuff goes to the bottom" and "plonk everything at the
bottom" say the same thing to you?

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Re: Disk clicking and in increasing Load_Cycle_Count in laptop with debian/testing

2012-04-14 Thread wzab
green wrote at Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:22:32 -0500
> wzab wrote at 2012-04-13 18:42 -0500:
>> A few weeks ago I've noticed, that my half year old laptop started
>> to behave strange.
>> When left unused, after the screen gets black to save power, the disks
>> starts to click every few minutes, and after each click the
>> Load_Cycle_Count (as reported by smartctl -a /dev/sda ) increases by
>> 1.
>
>You might want to look at the idle3-tools package and
>http://idle3-tools.sourceforge.net

Well, I've downloaded the idle3-tools-0.9.1.tgz and compiled it.
The first test has shown:
# ./idle3ctl -g /dev/sda
Idle3 timer set to 80 (0x50)

So it seems that the idle3 timer is really set to 80 which according to the 
info in
the idle3ctl.8 it corresponds to 8 seconds!

However, before I decided to disable the idle3 timer, I wanted to verify,
that the problem still persists.
What's strange - today no continuous loading/unloading of heads takes place.
The conditions are the same as yesterday. Even yesterday I've restarted the 
machine 
(cycling the power off/on) after changes in /etc/hdparm.conf, and even with that
the Load_Cycle_Count was continuosly increasing.

Today it still the same, increasing by one only after power off/power on.
Of course I have waited until the rkhunter and updatedb finched their work
(as they kept the disk active).

So finally I'm giving up. I set the idle3 timer to disabled in the WD drive.
Switch the machine off and on (as described here: 
http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/forum/t-351295/the-s-m-a-r-t-attribute-193-load-unload-counter-keeps-increa
 
it is necessary to switch the machine off and on to really disable the idle3 
timer 
after idle3ctl is used).
I also have the following added at the end of /etc/hdparm.conf:
/dev/sda {
apm = 255
apm_battery = 255
}

I hope it will allow my disks to survive next few years (curent count is: 
282588 L_C_C 
after 3580 Power_on_hours and 1686 Power_on_Counts in Seagate ST9500420AS, 
and 97309 L_C_C after 1481 Power_on_hours and 692 Power_on_Counts in Western 
Digital
WDC WD7500BPKT-75PK4T0

Thanks a lot for all suggestions!
Wojtek


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Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.

2012-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 03:55:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> I also followed "Linux Devices¹" (linux hardware related news) but 
> has been recently adquired by a big magazine and the feeds are now 
> gone :-(
> 
> ¹http://www.linuxfordevices.com/

It seems to be back:
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/rss.xml

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Re: Squid as default gateway in proxy mode.

2012-04-14 Thread Joe
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:40:26 +0200
Pascal Hambourg  wrote:

> 
> Joe wrote :
> > only TCP and UDP have 'ports'
> 
> No. ICMP does not have ports, but other protocols such as SCTP and
> DCCP have ports too.
> 
> 

Yes, I do realise there are others, but they are not among the
half-dozen or so which are likely to be encountered by someone new to
iptables, only two of which use the concept of ports. It is easy for
someone accustomed to getting Windows games working through routers to
assume that all IP protocols use ports.

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Re: Trouble with Nvidia driver

2012-04-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:27:06 -0400 (EDT), Eduardo Bearzoti wrote:
> 
> I'd like to thank the kind replies of Bob and Daniel.
> With regard to their suggestions, they might like to know that:
> 
> - changing 'nvidia' for 'vesa' unfortunately didn't help;
> 
> - I had memtest86+ run for a long time, and no ram errors were reported.
> 
> But Bob's guess that perhaps it is not a driver-related problem
> may be correct.  Today I finally decided to try Nvidia installer,
> and had the newest driver installed.  And - unfortunately - the system
> continues to freeze.  Therefore, the cause must lie somewhere else
> (if it is not a bug).
> 
> I'll keep trying, but my ideas are running out.  I would greatly
> appreciate fresh suggestions from the community.

In my experience, these types of system freezes are often hardware
problems, and from what you describe (i.e. independent of which
driver is being used) that would be my guess here.  If I were you
I would shutdown, power off, disconnect the power cord, open the
case, and carefully clean (without water!) everything.  Then I
would carefully remove all the expansion boards, clean the contacts,
and carefully re-seat all the boards.  Do the same for the memory
boards.  Then, put everything back together and hope for the best.

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Re: Mozilla Firefox installed without package-management

2012-04-14 Thread Mika Suomalainen
14.04.2012 07:49, Andreas Glaeser kirjoitti:
> Everyone who wants or needs improved HTML5-support can download Mozilla 
> Firefox
> webbrowser here:
> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html
> You get improved rendering-speed, the optional 'do not track' feature and 
> more for
> free.
> Installation instructions are here:
> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Installing%20Firefox%20on%20Linux
> It is just a matter of unpacking the downloaded -.tar.bz2 archive in the 
> home-directory
> and making launch-icons, which point to the executable, in the desktop-panel 
> and/or
> directly on the desktop. Finally set Firefox as the system-default browser 
> under
> System/Preferences/Preferred Applications/Internet.
> It all works completely painlessly on 64 bit architecture, should do on 32 
> bit, too.
> The settings from your iceweasel-browser are transferred to firefox and 
> re-used. So in my
> humble opinion there is really no need at all to backport the unbranded 
> iceweasel from
> Wheezy.
> If it is equally easy to setup thunderbird, then I will use that instead of 
> the
> backported icedove, too and report this as a fix against my bug #640306. 
> When you downloaded and installed Firefox, then please do read the Mozilla 
> privacy policy:
> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy-policy
> then agree to it and sign up for their monthly newsletter.
> 
> 

I think that all those features can be found from Iceweasel too.
At least "do not track feature" is in Iceweasel Aurora.

See http://mozilla.debian.net/

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Re: Disk clicking and in increasing Load_Cycle_Count in laptop with debian/testing

2012-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 apr 12, 12:29:57, wzab wrote:
> 
> So the problem is why there is a difference between work on local keyboard
>  (no unloading/loading due to entering the idle state) and remote work?
> I'd like to prevent the disk from entering the idle state, when working 
> remotely...

Probably the keyboard/mouse events keep the laptop active.

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Re: Finding upgradable packages by priority

2012-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 apr 12, 10:54:54, Johan Grönqvist wrote:
> 2012-04-14 10:52, Johan Grönqvist skrev:
> 
> >I assume this kind of search would require downloading the changelog for
> >each upgradable package, and looking at all entries that are more recent
> >than the installed version, then returning a match to the search if any
> >of those versions are marked priority=meduim or above.
> 
> I do of course mean urgency=medium or above, not priority.
> 
> Sorry about the extra traffic.

apt-listchanges would be the first place I would look, since it already 
does changelog parsing.

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Computer freeze right after login [was: Re: Trouble with Nvidia driver]

2012-04-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 apr 12, 00:27:06, Eduardo Bearzoti wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'd like to thank the kind replies of Bob and Daniel. With regard to 
> their suggestions, they might like to know that:
> 
> - changing 'nvidia' for 'vesa' unfortunately didn't help;
> 
> - I had memtest86+ run for a long time, and no ram errors were 
> reported.
> 
> But Bob's guess that perhaps it is not a driver-related problem may be 
> correct. Today I finally decided to try Nvidia installer, and had the 
> newest driver installed. And - unfortunately - the system continues to 
> freeze. Therefore, the cause must lie somewhere else (if it is not a 
> bug).
> 
> I'll keep trying, but my ideas are running out. I would greatly 
> appreciate fresh suggestions from the community.

So I changed the subject accordingly ;)

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Re: Disk clicking and in increasing Load_Cycle_Count in laptop with debian/testing

2012-04-14 Thread wzab
>> to find how often the head get unloaded, I have completely prevented
>> this effect to occur.

>Notice that you have 2 problems:
>1- Unloading.
>2- Reloading.
>From where I stand, the unloading is normal, harmless, and even
>desirable so the real problem is: why is it re-loaded every 3 minutes?
>I'd recommend you use /proc/sys/vm/block_dump to try and figure it out.

OK. Unloading is normal harmless and so on... However what's strange in my case 
-
unloading occures, wehen I USE my laptop remotely.
(As my laptop has much higher performance than my desktop workstation, while the
workstation has better keyboard, mouse and monitor, I very often work via
remote ssh or X session).

When working remotely, the laptops screen remains black, and when I e.g.
edit my VHDL sources, loading may be simply caused by the autosave option in 
the editor.

So the problem is why there is a difference between work on local keyboard
 (no unloading/loading due to entering the idle state) and remote work?
I'd like to prevent the disk from entering the idle state, when working 
remotely...

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Re: ICMP handling in Linux

2012-04-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit :
> > Easy depriorizing is possible by outright dropping incoming ICMP packets
> > in the iptables layer, before it is processed by the IP stack.
> 
> iptables is not before the IP stack, it is a part of it.

I suppose you're correct, since it is the IPv4-specific part of netfilter,
and it does hook into several places of the IP stack, and it knows IPv4.

I should probably have written it as "drop it in the RAW table, which
happens very early in the packet's processing by the IP stack."

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Re: Squid as default gateway in proxy mode.

2012-04-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello,

> Muhammad Yousuf Khan  wrote:
> 
>> now the problem part is i want to ping outside host to verify the
>> connectivity of internet for that all the time i have to open the SSH
>> the console and ping. but what i want is, i should also ping it from
>> host computers as well. however i don't want to NAT all the traffic
>> coming from inside and going outside. rather what i want is just to
>> NAT only ICMP Echo Rep and Req so that i can at least ping outside
>> host

As Joe wrote, this is not the right way to do things. See below.

> with out SSH the Squid console. which is very bothering.
>> My network diagram is very simple
>>
>> > Box>eth0(192.18.30.2)--<192.168.30.1-ISP
>> Router>
>>I
>>I
>>eth1(192.168.1.1)
>>I
>>I
>>(local network 192.168.1.0/24)
>>
>>
>> And why i am using Squid as a Gateway because i just want to minimize
>> unwanted nods that needs to be monitor all the time and batter
>> control over traffic with IPtables firewall. i am using this line to
>> NAT very specific ports to allow certain facilities like Email ,
>> Remote desktop and stuff. and this is working for me.
>>
>> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p TCP --dport 110 -j MASQUERADE

This is not the right way to do things. NAT is not intended for
filtering. By not masquerading outgoing traffic, you just let packets go
out with their original source address instead of dropping them. You
just rely on the ISP router not knowing how to handle the original
source address. This is wrong.

The right way is to only accept specific through your router, and then
NAT all traffic that was allowed to go out. Ok, it is a bit more
complicated.

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
iptables -t filter -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED \
   -j ACCEPT
iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -o eth0 -m state --state NEW \
   -p tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT

>> now i am stuck on allowing the ping traffic. please help

iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -0 eth0 -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request \
   -j ACCEPT

Joe wrote :
> only TCP and UDP have 'ports'

No. ICMP does not have ports, but other protocols such as SCTP and DCCP
have ports too.


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Re: ICMP handling in Linux

2012-04-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello,

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit :
> 
> Easy depriorizing is possible by outright dropping incoming ICMP packets
> in the iptables layer, before it is processed by the IP stack.

iptables is not before the IP stack, it is a part of it.


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Re: Finding upgradable packages by priority

2012-04-14 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2012-04-14 10:52, Johan Grönqvist skrev:


I assume this kind of search would require downloading the changelog for
each upgradable package, and looking at all entries that are more recent
than the installed version, then returning a match to the search if any
of those versions are marked priority=meduim or above.


I do of course mean urgency=medium or above, not priority.

Sorry about the extra traffic.

/ johan


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Finding upgradable packages by priority

2012-04-14 Thread Johan Grönqvist

Hi,

I run testing and after 5 days without upgrading, I have around 100 
upgradable packages. Normally, I upgrade when reaching the (arbitrarily 
chosen) number 100, but I would like to have a better way of deciding 
when I want to upgrade something.


What I would like to have is a way of finding upgradable packages where 
the upgrade has a priority that is medium or high priority. The 
intention is to make it easier for me to find out what important 
upgrades are available, and decide based on that if when I want to upgrade.


I assume this kind of search would require downloading the changelog for 
each upgradable package, and looking at all entries that are more recent 
than the installed version, then returning a match to the search if any 
of those versions are marked priority=meduim or above.


Does anyone know of a way to accomplish what I want in an automated fashion?

Regards

Johan


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Re: Squid as default gateway in proxy mode.

2012-04-14 Thread Joe
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:04:08 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan  wrote:

>  i have lately installed SQUID proxy and to avail all the facilities
> i am using it as Proxy mod not as Transparent mode neither i wanted
> to.
> 
> now the problem part is i want to ping outside host to verify the
> connectivity of internet for that all the time i have to open the SSH
> the console and ping. but what i want is, i should also ping it from
> host computers as well. however i don't want to NAT all the traffic
> coming from inside and going outside. rather what i want is just to
> NAT only ICMP Echo Rep and Req so that i can at least ping outside
> host with out SSH the Squid console. which is very bothering.
> My network diagram is very simple
> 
> 
>  Box>eth0(192.18.30.2)--<192.168.30.1-ISP
> Router>
>I
>I
>eth1(192.168.1.1)
>I
>I
>(local network 192.168.1.0/24)
> 
> 
> And why i am using Squid as a Gateway because i just want to minimize
> unwanted nods that needs to be monitor all the time and batter
> control over traffic with IPtables firewall. i am using this line to
> NAT very specific ports to allow certain facilities like Email ,
> Remote desktop and stuff. and this is working for me.
> 
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p TCP --dport 110 -j MASQUERADE
> 
> now i am stuck on allowing the ping traffic. please help
> 
> 

Instead of specifying the TCP protocol, you need to specify the ICMP
protocol, and just the specific types of ICMP that you want (only TCP
and UDP have 'ports'). But the right way to do it is to NAT everything
going out with one rule, and then use iptables rules with other targets
to allow only what you want to go in or out. You can build more complex
and versatile rulesets that way. More importantly, they are easier to
read and modify later.

By the way, squid is a proxy only for the http protocol, i.e. web
pages. It does not process anything else, and is just one application
on your machine.

This isn't a Debian-specific enquiry, and you might get more replies in
a more general Linux and/or firewall newsgroup, or a forum for any
specific management software you may be using.

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Squid as default gateway in proxy mode.

2012-04-14 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
 i have lately installed SQUID proxy and to avail all the facilities i am
using it as Proxy mod not as Transparent mode neither i wanted to.

now the problem part is i want to ping outside host to verify the
connectivity of internet for that all the time i have to open the SSH the
console and ping. but what i want is, i should also ping it from host
computers as well. however i don't want to NAT all the traffic coming from
inside and going outside. rather what i want is just to NAT only ICMP Echo
Rep and Req so that i can at least ping outside host with out SSH the Squid
console. which is very bothering.
My network diagram is very simple


eth0(192.18.30.2)--<192.168.30.1-ISP
Router>
   I
   I
   eth1(192.168.1.1)
   I
   I
   (local network 192.168.1.0/24)


And why i am using Squid as a Gateway because i just want to minimize
unwanted nods that needs to be monitor all the time and batter control over
traffic with IPtables firewall. i am using this line to NAT very specific
ports to allow certain facilities like Email , Remote desktop and stuff.
and this is working for me.

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p TCP --dport 110 -j MASQUERADE

now i am stuck on allowing the ping traffic. please help


Thanks,


Re: samba VFS Quota or Quota tool

2012-04-14 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Then how about repartition the whole volume in small chunks? That way you
> will limiting the available space by the partition size, and this cannot
> be avoided, can be easily monitored, you will have more control over the
> resources permission...

but i am using RAID 1, and if i divide the partition in few or many chunks
it means i am creating more RAID 1 drives, is it practical ? i mean i never
tried that , according to you experience what you say?




On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 01:13:13 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>> To setup quotas in samba you basically need setup two things:
>>>
>>> - Enabling quotas for the mount point that holds the stored data (which
>>> usually means installing "quota" and "quota tool" packages).
>>>
>>> - Enabling samba quotas by configuring the corresponding samba VFS
>>> module.
>>>
>>> (there are many guides and information on how to setup these two things
>>> on the Internet...)
>>
>> did you mean that in order to apply quota i have to implement it in
>> samba config file and on mount point also. only applying quota on mount
>> point will not work, is that what you mean?
>
> If you want to control the available space from windows clients you have
> to enable the corresponding VFS module in samba, which is just editing a
> couple of samba configuration lines, nothing more.
>
>> can you please guide me to some proper step by step example?
>
> Nope, sorry. That information can be found easily over Internet ;-)
>
>>> Another thing you do is discarding the use of quotas in the samba share
>>> and monitor the available disk space in the linux volume, warning the
>>> admin when the disk capacity reaches a defined percentage of use.
>>>
>>>
>> no i can not do that. actually i am the admin and network engineer at
>> the same time i am a one man army doing everything :P anyways. our users
>> are very irresponsible i know they will dump their personal data to
>> their personal folder they think personal folder on fileserver means
>> storage for any thing ;) so better telling and teaching every one quota
>> is a best solution in my case
>
> Then how about repartition the whole volume in small chunks? That way you
> will limiting the available space by the partition size, and this cannot
> be avoided, can be easily monitored, you will have more control over the
> resources permission...
>
>>> But designing and defining a good policy for samba to fit your network
>>> requirements is not a simple task and requires high doses of trial and
>>> error tests, fighting with users and permissions before you can put it
>>> under production.
>>
>> thanks for sharing you experience, but i was reading an article the guy
>> was suggesting to use a virtual file system image. so that how big you
>> create the file your quota will be limited to that image size no matter
>> whoever is accessing that share. but definitely this is a work around.
>> any suggestion on that?
>
> Mmm... yes, I also have read something like that in some articles and
> forum threads but I'd be very hesitant to try it in my own systems (I
> value my data) and given that is not the usual case for using a samba
> share, should I wanted to explore that option to be implemented in my
> network I would first run some tests with unimportant data on the share
> and over a virtualmchine to see how it behaves. Sorry, I can't give you
> more feedback on this, I have never tried it, but you can do your own
> tests :-)
>
> Greetings,
>
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Re: Trouble with Nvidia driver

2012-04-14 Thread Eduardo Bearzoti
Hi!

I'd like to thank the kind replies of Bob and Daniel. With regard to their 
suggestions, they might like to know that:

- changing 'nvidia' for 'vesa' unfortunately didn't help;

- I had memtest86+ run for a long time, and no ram errors were reported.

But Bob's guess that perhaps it is not a driver-related problem may be correct. 
Today I finally decided to try Nvidia installer, and had the newest driver 
installed. And - unfortunately - the system continues to freeze. Therefore, the 
cause must lie somewhere else (if it is not a bug).

I'll keep trying, but my ideas are running out. I would greatly appreciate 
fresh suggestions from the community.

Best regards,
Eduardo

--- Em sex, 13/4/12, daniel jimenez  escreveu:

> De: daniel jimenez 
> Assunto: Re: Trouble with Nvidia driver
> Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Data: Sexta-feira, 13 de Abril de 2012, 17:34
> I recently had a similar problem with
> a 9300 gs (which I understand to
> be pretty much the same + dx9 support or smth).
> 
> Gdm3 would never start after installing a modded kernel. As
> a
> workaround, try changing 'nvidia' for 'vesa' in the grub
> config file
> and see where that leads. Maybe you can boot like that,
> there wont be
> any video acceleration though.
> 
> Maybe that kernel version is incompatible with the provided
> nvidia blob?
> 
> Hope it helps.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> On 4/13/12, Bob Proulx 
> wrote:
> > Eduardo Bearzoti wrote:
> >> Video card (lspci output):
> >> nvidia Corporation G86[GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)
> >
> > I have a system with the same graphics chip and it is
> working fine for
> > me at 1600x1200 with the default driver.  I am a
> little embarrassed to
> > say that after looking at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
> I am not sure
> > which driver it is actually using.  I do not have
> any special drivers
> > (e.g. nouveau or nvidia) installed.  It has been
> fine and I haven't
> > needed to look at it.  It worked out of the box by
> default.
> >
> >> when attempting to login trough gdm3, the whole
> system freezes again.
> >
> > Since you are reporting system freezes I am concerned
> that this may be
> > a ram problem.  If I were looking at this I would
> install memtest86+
> > as a bootable system.  Then reboot into memtest
> and let it run through
> > several cycles to verify that you are not having a
> system memory
> > problem.
> >
> >   # apt-get install memtest86+
> >   ...
> >   Setting up memtest86+ (4.10-1.1) ...
> >   Generating grub.cfg ...
> >   ...
> >   Found memtest86+ image:
> /memtest86+.bin
> >
> > That will configure grub automatically for a bootable
> memtest
> > environment.  Reboot and it can be selected.
> >
> > If I ever find a problem with ram then I am always very
> thankful
> > because replacing ram is pretty inexpensive and a much
> easier thing to
> > do than most other repairs or chasing down driver
> problems.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Bob
> >
> 
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