date:20120615

El Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:21:42 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Puedes descargar/sincronizar los paquetes/repositorio en el disco
externo y después usarlo como medio desde el que actualizar tu Debian,
sí. Lo único que necesitas es tener configurada la infraestructura para
el mirror local y apuntar al disco externo.
 
 
 Yo quiero darle a mi amigo un disco externo que tengo, donde tengo el
 repositorio de debian squeeze. Porque lo tengo ahí, pues porque para
 actualizar el repositorio debo ir a otra ciudad a cierta distancia de
 donde vivo donde tienen Linux y actualizar el repositorio, eso lo hago 2
 o 3 veces al año, pero quería actualizarlo más a menudo, ósea dándoselo
 a un amigo que trabaja en turismo y que el me actualice el repositorio
 que ya tengo en mi disco externo.

Entendido. Algo así me había imaginado.

 Pero quería saber si podía correr algún script en Windows que me
 actulice el repositorio que ya tengo en el disco externo directo desde
 internet.
 
 Agradezco grandemente las respuestas, pero a decir verdad no entendí
 bien que debo hacer.

Pues necesitarás alguna herramienta que esté disponible para windows 
(¿rsync, ftpsync...?) que te permita sincronizar/descargar/actualizar los 
paquetes desde Internet al disco duro externo.

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Re: [OT] Servicio Web, DMZ, dos ISP.

El Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:35:02 +0200, Sergio Villalba escribió:

(ese top-posting...)

 El día 14 de junio de 2012 15:42, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Aparte de realizar las configuraciones pertinentes en los servidores
 DNS, tengo que implementar una solución Multi-WAN + balanceador de
 carga, he pensado en estas dos soluciones: Vyatta o PFSense

 Mi duda es si existen otras alternativas o si alguien implementado
 algo parecido.

 Me imagio que buscando bien puedo encontrar algún Howto en Internet.

 No es un how-to sino una descripción de concepto por si te sirve para
 aplicarla este caso sin necesidad de complementos extra:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-robin_DNS

 No me vale
 
 Como comentado antes, mi ISP_A es prioritario, respondiendo todas las
 peticiones, en caso de caída o mal servicio, entraría en funcionamiento
 mi ISP_B, Round Robin no funciona así...

(...)

Todo eso está explicado en el enlace de la Wikipedia. Si no te sirve para 
lo que buscas eso es otra cosa :-) pero sí que puedes definir 
prioridades con los registros A.

Ya nos dirás qué has implementado al final.

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[OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM

Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado 
info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si alguien 
tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.


Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me 
gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi 
movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que soporta 
dualsim. o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.


Desde ya, muchas gracias.

Yoinier.



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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM

2012-06-15 Thread Juan Lavieri


El 15/06/12 11:20, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:
Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado 
info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si 
alguien tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.


Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me 
gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi 
movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que 
soporta dualsim. o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.




En tu mismo teléfono.

1)  Respalda todos los datos que tengas en el teléfono y que te interese 
mantener.


2)  Resetea (lindo verbo) toda la información del móvil.  Quedará como 
viene de fábrica.


3)  inserta el primer sim de 64 kB y copia todo su contenido en el móvil.

4)  Cambia el sim por el otro de 64 kB y copia su contenido al móvil.

5)  Cambia el sim por el de 128 kB y vacía todo el contenido del móvil 
dentro de él.


6)  Bota los sim de 64 kB.




Desde ya, muchas gracias.



De nada


Yoinier.






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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM

El Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:50:16 -0500, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:

 Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado
 info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si alguien
 tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.

¿Quieres clonar los contactos?

 Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me
 gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi
 movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que soporta
 dualsim. 

Si soporta dos tarjetas SIM podrás usar las dos al tiempo :-?

 o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.

Hay aparatos que sirven para clonar tarjetas SIM, yo tengo uno que compré 
en eBay que siendo una birrieta de plástico es una joyita para evitar 
tener que usar los penosos programas que ofrecen los fabricantes de los 
móviles. El funcionamiento del apartado es muy sencillo:

- Pones la SIM 1
- Copias al aparato (memoria 1)
- Pones la SIM 2
- Copias al apartado (memoria 2)
- Pones la SIM 128K
- Restauras de la memoria 1
- Restauras de la memoria 2 (añadir en lugar de reemplazar)

Ya tienes lista tu tarjeta SIM de 128K con los contactos de las dos 
tarjetas.

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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM


El 15/06/2012 11:09, Camaleón escribió:

El Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:50:16 -0500, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:


Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado
info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si alguien
tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.


¿Quieres clonar los contactos?


Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me
gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi
movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que soporta
dualsim.


Si soporta dos tarjetas SIM podrás usar las dos al tiempo :-?


o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.


Hay aparatos que sirven para clonar tarjetas SIM, yo tengo uno que compré
en eBay que siendo una birrieta de plástico es una joyita para evitar
tener que usar los penosos programas que ofrecen los fabricantes de los
móviles. El funcionamiento del apartado es muy sencillo:

- Pones la SIM 1
- Copias al aparato (memoria 1)
- Pones la SIM 2
- Copias al apartado (memoria 2)
- Pones la SIM 128K
- Restauras de la memoria 1
- Restauras de la memoria 2 (añadir en lugar de reemplazar)

Ya tienes lista tu tarjeta SIM de 128K con los contactos de las dos
tarjetas.

Saludos,



Camaleon, la idea es que al unir las dos sim pueda usar los dos numeros 
de telefonos en el mismo movil, no solo los contactos.


Un saludo, gracias.

yo.



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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM


El 15/06/2012 10:11, Juan Lavieri escribió:

El 15/06/12 11:20, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:

Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado
info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si
alguien tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.

Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me
gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi
movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que
soporta dualsim. o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.



En tu mismo teléfono.

1) Respalda todos los datos que tengas en el teléfono y que te interese
mantener.

2) Resetea (lindo verbo) toda la información del móvil. Quedará como
viene de fábrica.

3) inserta el primer sim de 64 kB y copia todo su contenido en el móvil.

4) Cambia el sim por el otro de 64 kB y copia su contenido al móvil.

5) Cambia el sim por el de 128 kB y vacía todo el contenido del móvil
dentro de él.

6) Bota los sim de 64 kB.




Desde ya, muchas gracias.



De nada


Yoinier.






me referia, a los datos de las operadoras?? algo asi como que pueda 
tener los dos numeros en el mismo movil.


Gracias.

Yoinier.




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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM

2012-06-15 Thread Alfonso

El 15/06/12, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves ynie...@lt.datazucar.cu escribió:
 El 15/06/2012 10:11, Juan Lavieri escribió:
 El 15/06/12 11:20, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:
 Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado
 info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si
 alguien tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.

 Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me
 gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi
 movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que
 soporta dualsim. o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.


 En tu mismo teléfono.

 1) Respalda todos los datos que tengas en el teléfono y que te interese
 mantener.

 2) Resetea (lindo verbo) toda la información del móvil. Quedará como
 viene de fábrica.

 3) inserta el primer sim de 64 kB y copia todo su contenido en el móvil.

 4) Cambia el sim por el otro de 64 kB y copia su contenido al móvil.

 5) Cambia el sim por el de 128 kB y vacía todo el contenido del móvil
 dentro de él.

 6) Bota los sim de 64 kB.



 Desde ya, muchas gracias.


 De nada

 Yoinier.





 me referia, a los datos de las operadoras?? algo asi como que pueda
 tener los dos numeros en el mismo movil.

Que yo sepa los teléfonos Dual-SIM simplemente tienen dos lectores de
tarjeta no?

Si se resuelve la duda en esta lista se merece un premio eh? ;)

Saludos y suerte,

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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM

El Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:32:01 -0500, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:

 El 15/06/2012 11:09, Camaleón escribió:

 Hay aparatos que sirven para clonar tarjetas SIM, yo tengo uno que
 compré en eBay que siendo una birrieta de plástico es una joyita para
 evitar tener que usar los penosos programas que ofrecen los fabricantes
 de los móviles. El funcionamiento del apartado es muy sencillo:

(...)

 Camaleon, la idea es que al unir las dos sim pueda usar los dos numeros
 de telefonos en el mismo movil, no solo los contactos.

Entonces necesitas un teléfono que admita esa funcionalidad (dual-sim), 
sí o sí, salvo que tu proveedor de telefonía tenga soporte para eso algo 
que dudo (las llamadas entrantes son factibles de gestionar si tienes 
varios números -desvío incondicional y listo-, pero las llamadas 
salientes es otro cantar ;-) )

Saludos,

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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM


El 15/06/2012 11:36, Alfonso escribió:

El 15/06/12, Yoinier Hernandez Nievesynie...@lt.datazucar.cu  escribió:

El 15/06/2012 10:11, Juan Lavieri escribió:

El 15/06/12 11:20, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:

Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado
info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si
alguien tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.

Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me
gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi
movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que
soporta dualsim. o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.



En tu mismo teléfono.

1) Respalda todos los datos que tengas en el teléfono y que te interese
mantener.

2) Resetea (lindo verbo) toda la información del móvil. Quedará como
viene de fábrica.

3) inserta el primer sim de 64 kB y copia todo su contenido en el móvil.

4) Cambia el sim por el otro de 64 kB y copia su contenido al móvil.

5) Cambia el sim por el de 128 kB y vacía todo el contenido del móvil
dentro de él.

6) Bota los sim de 64 kB.




Desde ya, muchas gracias.



De nada


Yoinier.







me referia, a los datos de las operadoras?? algo asi como que pueda
tener los dos numeros en el mismo movil.


Que yo sepa los teléfonos Dual-SIM simplemente tienen dos lectores de
tarjeta no?

Si se resuelve la duda en esta lista se merece un premio eh? ;)

Saludos y suerte,


mira, aqui hablan halgo parecido.

http://www.foroiphone.com/accesorios/33856-dual-sim-para-iphone-3gs-es-posible.html

Gracias.

yo.




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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM

2012-06-15 Thread Alfonso

El 15/06/12, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves ynie...@lt.datazucar.cu escribió:
El 15/06/2012 11:36, Alfonso escribió:
El 15/06/12, Yoinier Hernandez Nievesynie...@lt.datazucar.cu escribió:
El 15/06/2012 10:11, Juan Lavieri escribió:
El 15/06/12 11:20, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:
Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado
info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si
alguien tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.

Tengo dos SIM de 64kb, y una de 128k que no me interesa mantener, y me
gustaria saber si puedo unir las dos de 64kb en la de 128kb, porque mi
movil solo tiene para una sola entrada de sim, pero he leido que
soporta dualsim. o si puedo usarla en mi iPhone.

En tu mismo teléfono.

1) Respalda todos los datos que tengas en el teléfono y que te interese
mantener.

2) Resetea (lindo verbo) toda la información del móvil. Quedará como
viene de fábrica.

3) inserta el primer sim de 64 kB y copia todo su contenido en el
móvil.

4) Cambia el sim por el otro de 64 kB y copia su contenido al móvil.

5) Cambia el sim por el de 128 kB y vacía todo el contenido del móvil
dentro de él.

6) Bota los sim de 64 kB.

Desde ya, muchas gracias.

De nada

Yoinier.

me referia, a los datos de las operadoras?? algo asi como que pueda
tener los dos numeros en el mismo movil.

Que yo sepa los teléfonos Dual-SIM simplemente tienen dos lectores de
tarjeta no?

Si se resuelve la duda en esta lista se merece un premio eh? ;)

Saludos y suerte,

mira, aqui hablan halgo parecido.

http://www.foroiphone.com/accesorios/33856-dual-sim-para-iphone-3gs-es-posible.html

Intenta no utilizar html por favor.

Tanto en el link que dices como en el de samsung lo que tienes son 2
SIM. Yo dudo que sea posible (a día de hoy) que una SIM esté asociada
a dos números.

Lo que puedes hacer es esto y desviar las llamadas entrantes del
número B al número A, que siempre estará activo recibiendo las
llamadas entrantes de los dos números y para las salientes.

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Re: [OT] Como clonar tarjeta SIM

2012-06-15 Thread Debian GMail

El 15/06/12 12:50, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves escribió:

Saludos, se que esto no tiene que ver nada con debian, pero he buscado
info en sangoogle, pero sin resultados, y me gustaria conocer si alguien
tiene idea o ha visto como clonar lineas SIM de celulares.

Desde ya, muchas gracias.

Yoinier.

Sí se puede hacer.
Cuando se desarrollaron las sim, preveían la incorporación de dos
líneas, pero los teléfonos no las podían manejar en forma simultánea. Si
alguno usó alguna vez un Motorola C150, cuando uno recién los encendía
por primera vez, en su configuración recordará que uno podía saltar de
la lína A a la Línea B. Y era un teléfono de hace 10 años.
Mi actual Nokia E5-00, en su configuración de línea tiene la opción de
Línea 1 / Línea 2.
Pero los proveedores, por lo menos acá en Argentina, NUNCA las
programaron de esa manera, a pesar que se los he pedido de rodillas.

De hecho, acá van unos enlaces que tal vez te interesen.
En él puedes ver que los teléfonos están preparados para usar dos
líneas, los operadores son los que no lo quieren hacer.
Recordá que si el teléfono no está liberado, los dos números deben ser
de la misma compañía.
La limitación seguirá siendo que usa una u otra línea, a diferencia de
los dual sim que sí pueden usarlas en forma simultánea.

http://www.simore.ch/es/index.php

http://www.xatakamovil.com/movistar/movistar-lanza-segunda-linea-ahora-tu-sim-puede-tener-dos-numeros-distintos-asociados

http://www.consumer.es/web/es/tecnologia/software/2011/02/07/198409.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvupO0OofuE

http://www.teinspira.com/aplicacion-movil-permite-tener-dos-numeros-en-un-mismo-telefono/

JAP

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Servidor CAS y dovecot

2012-06-15 Thread Federico Alberto Sayd


Hola a todos:

Pregunto aquí después de haberme roto la cabeza y googleado toda la doc 
disponible.


¿Alguien que haya configurado la autenticación de dovecot (imap, pop3; 
debian squeeze) contra un servidor de CAS (Central Authentication 
Server, Single Sing-On)


He tratado de hacerlo a través del módulo pam_cas, que al parecer hace 
rato que no tiene mantenimiento pero por lo menos compila, el único 
problema que se me presenta es que cuando activo la conexión ssl con el 
servidor CAS el módulo falla con un el siguiente eror: Certificate 
verification error: 20
Sin embargo el servidor CAS contiene un certificado válido emitido por 
una CA externa (no autofirmado) y el mismo certificado está especificado 
en la configuración del módulo pam_cas en /etc/pam_cas.conf.


Alguna pista al respecto?

Gracias de antemano

Federico


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cierre inesperado de amarok

2012-06-15 Thread tattva das

Lo uso casi a diarioy de estar reproduciendo música se cierra
inesperadamente, abriéndose luego el diálogo de: se ha producido un
fallo.
He empezado a usar software libre a mi edad adulta y realmente soy un
neófito por eso pido disculpas por no saber reportar el fallo
adecuadamente.
   Muchas Gracias !
Application: Amarok (amarok), signal: Bus error
The current source language is auto; currently asm.
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f267ab10780 (LWP 3378))]

Thread 13 (Thread 0x7f2652ca6700 (LWP 3403)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:162
#1  0x7f267315f556 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtWebKit.so.4
#2  0x7f267315f599 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtWebKit.so.4
#3  0x7f26728378ca in start_thread (arg=value optimized out) at 
pthread_create.c:300
#4  0x7f267797692d in clone () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:112
#5  0x in ?? ()

Thread 12 (Thread 0x7f26534a7700 (LWP 3404)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:162
#1  0x7f2678e9ce6b in QWaitConditionPrivate::wait (this=value optimized 
out, mutex=0x36182a0, time=18446744073709551615) at 
thread/qwaitcondition_unix.cpp:87
#2  QWaitCondition::wait (this=value optimized out, mutex=0x36182a0, 
time=18446744073709551615) at thread/qwaitcondition_unix.cpp:159
#3  0x7f2674c51e56 in 
ThreadWeaver::WeaverImpl::blockThreadUntilJobsAreBeingAssigned (this=0x3617eb0, 
th=0x36186d0) at ../../../threadweaver/Weaver/WeaverImpl.cpp:365
#4  0x7f2674c546fb in ThreadWeaver::WorkingHardState::applyForWork 
(this=0x3616f00, th=0x36186d0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/WorkingHardState.cpp:71
#5  0x7f2674c54714 in ThreadWeaver::WorkingHardState::applyForWork 
(this=0x3616f00, th=0x36186d0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/WorkingHardState.cpp:74
#6  0x7f2674c54714 in ThreadWeaver::WorkingHardState::applyForWork 
(this=0x3616f00, th=0x36186d0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/WorkingHardState.cpp:74
#7  0x7f2674c52c7f in ThreadWeaver::ThreadRunHelper::run 
(this=0x7f26534a6e10, parent=0x3617eb0, th=0x36186d0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/Thread.cpp:87
#8  0x7f2674c531d8 in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run (this=0x36186d0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/Thread.cpp:142
#9  0x7f2678e9be15 in QThreadPrivate::start (arg=0x36186d0) at 
thread/qthread_unix.cpp:248
#10 0x7f26728378ca in start_thread (arg=value optimized out) at 
pthread_create.c:300
#11 0x7f267797692d in clone () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:112
#12 0x in ?? ()

Thread 11 (Thread 0x7f264d285700 (LWP 3405)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:162
#1  0x7f2678e9ce6b in QWaitConditionPrivate::wait (this=value optimized 
out, mutex=0x36182a0, time=18446744073709551615) at 
thread/qwaitcondition_unix.cpp:87
#2  QWaitCondition::wait (this=value optimized out, mutex=0x36182a0, 
time=18446744073709551615) at thread/qwaitcondition_unix.cpp:159
#3  0x7f2674c51e56 in 
ThreadWeaver::WeaverImpl::blockThreadUntilJobsAreBeingAssigned (this=0x3617eb0, 
th=0x3618df0) at ../../../threadweaver/Weaver/WeaverImpl.cpp:365
#4  0x7f2674c546fb in ThreadWeaver::WorkingHardState::applyForWork 
(this=0x3616f00, th=0x3618df0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/WorkingHardState.cpp:71
#5  0x7f2674c54714 in ThreadWeaver::WorkingHardState::applyForWork 
(this=0x3616f00, th=0x3618df0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/WorkingHardState.cpp:74
#6  0x7f2674c52c7f in ThreadWeaver::ThreadRunHelper::run 
(this=0x7f264d284e10, parent=0x3617eb0, th=0x3618df0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/Thread.cpp:87
#7  0x7f2674c531d8 in ThreadWeaver::Thread::run (this=0x3618df0) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/Thread.cpp:142
#8  0x7f2678e9be15 in QThreadPrivate::start (arg=0x3618df0) at 
thread/qthread_unix.cpp:248
#9  0x7f26728378ca in start_thread (arg=value optimized out) at 
pthread_create.c:300
#10 0x7f267797692d in clone () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:112
#11 0x in ?? ()

Thread 10 (Thread 0x7f264ca84700 (LWP 3406)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at 
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:162
#1  0x7f2678e9ce6b in QWaitConditionPrivate::wait (this=value optimized 
out, mutex=0x411be58, time=18446744073709551615) at 
thread/qwaitcondition_unix.cpp:87
#2  QWaitCondition::wait (this=value optimized out, mutex=0x411be58, 
time=18446744073709551615) at thread/qwaitcondition_unix.cpp:159
#3  0x7f265475bdf9 in XmlParseJob::run (this=value optimized out) at 
../../../../../src/core-impl/collections/sqlcollection/ScanManager.cpp:693
#4  0x7f2674c53935 in ThreadWeaver::JobRunHelper::runTheJob 
(this=0x7f264ca83d80, th=0x375bdd0, job=0x411be10) at 
../../../threadweaver/Weaver/Job.cpp:106
#5  0x7f2674c53c2e in ThreadWeaver::Job::execute (this=0x411be10,

Como monitorar tráfego pelo ppp0 ?

2012-06-15 Thread Instruisto Jose

Amigos e Amigas,
Tenho muitas vezes observado, no Debian (Lenny), no aplicativo que monitora o 
envio e recebimento de pacotes pela interface ppp0, um grande recebimento de 
pacotes mesmo quando não estou fazendo o download.
Como eu posso identificar a origem desses pacotes, ou qual aplicativo está 
envolvido nessas transferências para identificar o que está sobrecarrecando a 
minha conexão?
Obrigado,Jose

Re: Como monitorar tráfego pelo ppp0 ?

2012-06-15 Thread Gabriel Ricardo

coloca o ntop para monitorar essa interface

Atenciosamente,
*Gabriel Ricardo.*
www.tinotapa.com.br



Em 15 de junho de 2012 11:04, Instruisto Jose instr...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

 Amigos e Amigas,


 Tenho muitas vezes observado, no Debian (Lenny), no aplicativo que
 monitora o envio e recebimento de pacotes pela interface ppp0, um grande
 recebimento de pacotes mesmo quando não estou fazendo o download.


 Como eu posso identificar a origem desses pacotes, ou qual aplicativo está
 envolvido nessas transferências para identificar o que está sobrecarrecando
 a minha conexão?


 Obrigado,

 Jose

Script, via cronjob, que matava um processo parou de funcionar

2012-06-15 Thread Marcelo Luiz de Laia

Tenho o seguinte script:

  #!/bin/bash
  
  PID=$(pgrep offlineimap)
  
  [[ -n $PID ]]  kill $PID
  #[[ -n $PID ]]  exit 1
  
  #offlineimap -o -u Noninteractive.Quiet /dev/null 
  offlineimap -o -u TTYUI /dev/null 
  
  exit

No cron, tenho o seguinte:

# offlineimap
*/5 * * * * sh /home/marcelo/bin/scripts/offlineimap_run.sh  /dev/null
21

(tudo numa linha só)

Estava rodando belezinha até outro dia.

Agora, tenho sentido que ele nao esta matando o processo. Toda vez que o
notebook é suspendido ou hiberna, via controle de uso de energia, ele
volta e o offlineimap não é 'matado' (morto), mais.

Por outro lado, se eu rodar os seguintes comandos no shell, eu mato ele:


:~$ PID=$(pgrep offlineimap)
:~$ [[ -n $PID ]]  kill $PID


O que pode estar acontecendo?

OBS.: Eu sei que o offlineimap está rodando porque ao tentar executa-lo
via shell, ele retorna que já há uma instancia rodando.

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Re: [OT] google.com

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:15 +, Camaleón wrote:
 If Google says you are in Malaysia is that _you are_ there.

http://www.affiliateprograms.com/blog/what-to-know-about-duckduckgo/
(Didn't read the duckduckgo article completely myself.)
http://scroogle.org/
https://www.ixquick.com/

In the past other search engines started nice and became evil later,
e.g. Clusty became Yippy. Most nice search engines only work in
English, if they provide e.g. German it happens that you'll get original
English sides, automatically translated into a mix of broken and faked
German (similar to Chaplin's The Great Dictator ... Wiener Schnitzel
Sauerkraut). I get best search results using google.de and google.com.

 http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en

Take a look at Curt's link, you also can try http://www.google.com/ncr
instead.

 Sadly, you can only control Google settings _once_ you have login or by 
 keeping their cookies :-(

Or by Firefox addons.

- Ralf


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Re: [OT] google.com

Apologize
http://www.scroogle.org/sucks.html


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Re: what causes these apt-get/aptitude errors?

2012-06-15 Thread Claudius Hubig

Hello Neal,

Neal Murphy neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu wrote:
 Aptitude also reports W: GPG error on security.debian.org squeeze/updates 
 Release: the following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2

 So I give up. Next time I'm down there, I'm going to reinstall. Or maybe just 
 install wheezy to keep both sites the same (the other site's hardware is too 
 new for squeeze).

Uhm, did you try using a different mirror? The GPG error is probably
because APT feed GPG a non-existing/empty file (due to the networking
errors).

Best regards,

Claudius
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Re: what causes these apt-get/aptitude errors?

2012-06-15 Thread Jude DaShiell

No network problems over here either.  No firewall since I have nothing 
listening on my system and have no problem going out to web or ssh.

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Neal Murphy wrote:

 On Wednesday 13 June 2012 15:24:39 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  
  ..network problems.  Fix those, and try again.
 
 Checked. The host I'm working on shows no networking errors. The firewall 
 shows no errors. The resets do seem to come from the remote (seen using 
 tcpdump on the internet link). There've been no complaints from anyone at 
 that 
 site about poor or flaky network connections. It only seems to happen apt-
 get/aptitude.
 
 Aptitude also reports W: GPG error on security.debian.org squeeze/updates 
 Release: the following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
 
 I changed locale to C and it works better. But still erratic. And still no 
 errors on the local IFs.
 
 So I give up. Next time I'm down there, I'm going to reinstall. Or maybe just 
 install wheezy to keep both sites the same (the other site's hardware is too 
 new for squeeze).
 
 Thanks anyway!
 
 
 


Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net
http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html


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Re: dd_rescue No additional sense

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 15:01 -0400, KS wrote:
  Win7

Than forget my advice to copy the files instead. OTOH it's a good reason
to reconsider running an illegal Windows XP with service pack 2 (3 isn't
worth the hassle, but also possible to get, after installing a wga
remover and manually sorting SP3 files) on a virtual machine, if by
blackguards you're forced for what reason ever to use Windows, or drop
Windows completely.

Or drop Linux and wait until Win8 is released and pay for the license
and perhaps for a new mobo too :p.

If you're using a licensed version of Win7, why don't you have the
install medias?




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Re: Sound disappeared after unstable upgrade

2012-06-15 Thread Alan Chandler


On 14/06/12 22:27, Alan Chandler wrote:

I upgraded my sid system with the latest set of packages.

I have now lost by sound, but I am not sure why.



When I run alsamixer as root I see a device that appears to be the 
sound chip on my motherboard, and using aplay to send a .wav file works.


If I run as me - a user, alsamixer shows a pulseaudio card as the 
only card.  Playing the wave file does nothing.


I presume I have a pulseaudio problem, but I don't know what to do 
about it.


If I look at the sound settings in the Gnome System Settings, it says 
be sound output is a dummy card.  I don't know whether that just 
implies its going via pulse-audio, or that pulse audio has not found a 
real device and is using a dummy one.


NOTE: the same upgrade seemed to screw up udevd - I get an error 
message about failing to queue file, and I have to unplug and replug 
my usb mouse and keyboard to make them work.





I got my sound back - at least temporarily.

There appeared to be two copies of the udevd daemon running.  I killed 
all copies of it and then restarted it once.  Then I restarted 
pulseaudio and now I have sound.


So my instinct that the problem with udev is the root cause seems 
correct.  However I have yet to find out what is the problem with that.


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Re: Sound disappeared after unstable upgrade

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 22:27 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
 I presume I have a pulseaudio problem

I never heard about issues with PA. It's the best sound server ever. All
DEs should make it a dependency and people should stop whining about PA
and stop spreading FUD. There's nothing as fantastic as PA is.

Can't people stop to write about PA on mailing lists? It's unwanted to
talk about PA on mailing lists.

Sorry, I couldn't resist ;).

Even if your issue shouldn't be caused by PA. Having PA installed is
always a bad idea. Remove the pulseaudio package, but keep the lib. If
it's a dependency of your DE, file a bug report upstream + to
http://www.google.de/search?hl=enq=lennart
+poetteringbav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbbiw=1152bih=707um=1ie=UTF-8tbm=ischsource=ogsa=Ntab=wiei=cNjaT9v5CIbYsgaJvt2VCQ
, drop the DE or build an empty dummy package using equivs.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html

Hth,
Ralf


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Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 18:55 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
 The Advanced Bash Scripting Guide is quite thorough:
 http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/

There also is a beginners guide.

On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
 http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/



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Re: Up-gradation problem with gnome 2.14

2012-06-15 Thread Alberto Fuentes


On 06/14/2012 09:33 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Alberto Fuentes wrote:

Joy Sankar Sengupta wrote:

After executing the command I got the following output:-
# generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!


I dont know if you suffer from other problems/bugs as others said,
but your main problem is that you dont have a DNS server set in your
computer as seen in your empty /etc/resolv.conf and your previous
error

Err http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg
Could not resolve 'http.us.debian.org'


Agreed.  But why is resolv.conf empty?  That is the first problem to
solve.  Solve it first.


One way to fix it is to
$ sudo -i
# echo servername 8.8.8.8  /etc/resolv.conf


Almost but not quite.  The word is nameserver not servername.  And
to deal with potential broken lines there now I would truncate the
file with full contents.  This would fix it.


hehe silly me. God bless peer review :D



   # echo nameserver 8.8.8.8  /etc/resolv.conf

And of course 8.8.8.8 is Google's public dns service.  An easy to
remember address.  Should work to get you going.

HOWEVER!  The file is probably empty due to not having any network
connection.  Instead of doing the above at all I think it would be
better to determine what the network problem is all about and fixing
it first.  Then with that fixed the /etc/resolv.conf issue will be
fixed too.



Yeah, agreed. Check for the box that is giving you ip. Something is 
wrong with it as they usually gives you dns automatically too. If you 
dont have control of that box, the above is a nice workaround tho.




Bob



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Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?

2012-06-15 Thread Veljko

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 08:49:15AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 18:55 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
  The Advanced Bash Scripting Guide is quite thorough:
  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
 
 There also is a beginners guide.
 
 On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/

Another great tutorial for beginners.

Linux Shell Scripting Tutorial
A Beginner's handbook
http://freeos.com/guides/lsst/


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Re: [OT] google.com

On 2012-06-15, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr
 opened still the Malaysia language.

Did you say what browser you're using?  Do you have the same problem
with all browsers?


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Re: Face in Icedove

2012-06-15 Thread Virgo Pärna

On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:46:15 +0300, Mika Suomalainen 
mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Sure, http://picpaste.com/Selection_022-Pub3H0Bm.jpeg


 Open Config Editor from Advanced Preferences and check 
mailnews.customHeaders and 
mailnews.headers.extraExpandedHeaders values. If they contain face or face: 
then remove 
those form value.

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Re: [OT] google.com

What IP does a webpage see if you visit it? To ensure what they really
see go to

http://www.heise.de/netze/tools/meine-ip-adresse/

The German words [1] in English: Your request is from the IP address:

Then check the IP at

https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?form_type=simplefull_query_string=searchtext=do_search=Search

- Ralf

[1] Ihre Anfrage kommt von der IP-Adresse


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Re: [OT] google.com

On 2012-06-15, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
 On 2012-06-15, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr
 opened still the Malaysia language.

 Did you say what browser you're using?  Do you have the same problem
 with all browsers?


By the way, a technical evidence research project I have conducted in my
personal laboratory with iceweasal demonstrates that the
www.google.com/ncr url does not work as advertised if you're not
accepting cookies.

Are you accepting cookies in your browser?  Do you remember the ones Mom
you used to make, hot out of the oven?


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Re: [OT] google.com

From the German Google it usually is possible to switch to google.com by
the link at the right bottom corner, at the moment it stays at google.de
here.

When I'm using the link from http://www.google.com.my/ I also get the
German Google.

http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en is ok here and
http://www.google.com/ncr is ok here too, both will give me an English
Google.

Ubuntu Precise Firefox 13.0 for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0


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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-06-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 6/14/2012 9:45 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:38:27 -0500
 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
 
 Couldn't hurt.  And while you're at it, mount with inode64 in your
 fstab immediately after you create the XFS.  You were running with
 inode32, which sticks all the inodes at the front of AG0 causing lots
 of seeks.  Inode64 puts file/dir inodes in the AG where the file gets
 written.  In short, inode64 is more efficient for most workloads.  And
 this is also why getting the agcount correct is so critical with
 tiered linear/striped parity setups such as this.

 When you recreate the XFS use 'agcount=6'.  That's the smallest you
 can go with 2TB disks.  A force will be required since you already
 have an XFS on the device.
 
 Sorry I haven't much time now. I'm invoted to a BBQ and already
 hungry :-)
 
 I just wanted to create the filesystem and start to copy the files.
 
 So I tried and got this warning:
 
 ~$ sudo mkfs.xfs -f -d agcount=6,su=131072,sw=3 /dev/md0
 Warning: AG size is a multiple of stripe width.  This can cause
 performance problems by aligning all AGs on the same disk.  To avoid
 this, run mkfs with an AG size that is one stripe unit smaller, for
 example 244189120.

Grr.  This is another reason it is preferable to create the XFS atop the
linear array with both RAIDs already present, from the beginning, which
would allow the proper 11 AGs, and proper placement of them.

 Should I take this seriously?

This is a valid warning and relates to metadata performance, which is
important for everyday use.  So yeah, you should take it seriously.  So
what you should do now is, instead of making another attempt and
manually setting 7 AGs, just leave out that parm and let mkfs pick the
agcount/agsize on its own.  It will likely choose 7, but it may choose
more.  The fewer the better with 3 slow disks in this RAID5.  mkfs.xfs
doesn't take spindle speed into account, which is why I usually set
parms manually, to best fit the storage hardware.

 Btw: Should I mount every xfs filesystem (also the one for the mythtv
 recordings) with inode64.

Yes.  Especially with XFS atop a linear array.  The inode64 allocator
spreads directory and file metadata, and files relatively evenly across
all AGs, providing better locality between files and their metadata.
This improves performance for most workloads.

Inode32, the default allocator, puts all directory and file metadata in
AG0, so you end up with a hotspot, causing excessive disk seeking on the
first RAID5 (which is where AG0 is) in the linear array.

Inode64 will be the XFS default in the not too distant future.  It would
have been so already, but there are still some key applications in
production, namely some enterprise backup applications, that don't
understand 64bit inode numbers.  This is the only reason inode32 is
still the default.  Note than with 32bit Linux kernels you are limited
to inode32.  So make sure you're running an x64 kernel, which IIRC, you are.

Note that for any XFS filesystem greater than 16TB, you must use the
inode64 allocator as inode32 is limited to 16TB (and again you need an
x64 kernel). In your case you will be continuously expanding your XFS as
you add more 4 drive arrays in the future.  Once you add your 4x1.5TB
drives you'll be at 10.4TB.  When you add 3x4TB drives your XFS will hit
19.5TB.  It's best to already be using inode64 when you go over the 16TB
limit to avoid problems.

 This is not true for the smaller ext4 filesystems I use for the os and
 the home dir I suppose?

No, the inode64 mount option is unique to XFS.  It simply tells the XFS
kernel driver to use the inoe64 code path instead the inode32 code path
for a given XFS filesystem, in essence passing a 0 or 1 to an XFS
variable.  You can mount multiple XFS filesystems on one machine, some
with inode32 and others with inode64.  See:  'man mount'  XFS is waay
down at the bottom.  Note that it's possible, but not advisable, to
change the inodeXX mount option after the filesystem has some age on
it.  Pick the right one from the start and stick with it.  This is
usually inode64.  There are some unique workload cases where a highly
tweaked inode32 filesystem 16TB has a performance advantage, but your
workloads aren't such cases.

And make sure you're using linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 so you have
all the latest XFS features and fixes, mainly the delayed logging code
turned on by default.

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Re: [OT] google.com

2012-06-15 Thread rjc

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:44:11AM BST, lina wrote:
 Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr
 opened still the Malaysia language.

What web browser are you using and do you have cookies enabled?

Does this happen in any other browser?

Which country do you reside in?

P.S. Am I to assume that it is still on Debian?

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Re: dd_rescue No additional sense

2012-06-15 Thread keith

On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 08:24 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
 If you're using a licensed version of Win7, why don't you have the
 install medias? 

Because it is a factory install that reinstalls from a partition on
disk, most likely. 
However, there is a code sticker on the bottom of a laptop, that may let
you get a copy from the manufacturer.


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Re: Problem with Iceweasel and low-quality fonts

2012-06-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On 2012-05-28 14:17:08 +, Camaleón wrote:
 I wonder why is that this is still needed because Firefox should
 respect the system font settings.

It seems that Firefox and fontconfig have different ways of dealing
with missing fonts, and fontconfig works better. The bug I reported
with some recent explanations:

  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761022

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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
 On 2012-06-15, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr
 opened still the Malaysia language.

 Did you say what browser you're using?  Do you have the same problem
 with all browsers?

The problem only exist when I used the iceweasle
$ iceweasel -v
Mozilla Iceweasel 10.0.5

The cookies are enabled.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B93SVRfpVVg3cXU5R295RTZLMEE/edit?pli=1

On Web there is none such problems.


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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 What IP does a webpage see if you visit it? To ensure what they really
 see go to

 http://www.heise.de/netze/tools/meine-ip-adresse/

 The German words [1] in English: Your request is from the IP address:

 Then check the IP at

 https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?form_type=simplefull_query_string=searchtext=do_search=Search

Thanks, the reported IP the same as the ipaddress.

Seems IP no problem. Even I changed to different cable.

 - Ralf

 [1] Ihre Anfrage kommt von der IP-Adresse


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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 From the German Google it usually is possible to switch to google.com by
 the link at the right bottom corner, at the moment it stays at google.de
 here.

 When I'm using the link from http://www.google.com.my/ I also get the
 German Google.

This one I got the Malaysia one, but different from the www.google.com
malaysia one.


 http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en is ok here and
Here is okay too.
 http://www.google.com/ncr is ok here too, both will give me an English
 Google.
Here is not okay.

Thanks with best regards,

 Ubuntu Precise Firefox 13.0 for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0


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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:44:11AM BST, lina wrote:
 Even the first link given by Curt, not work. the www.google.com/ncr
 opened still the Malaysia language.

 What web browser are you using and do you have cookies enabled?

 Does this happen in any other browser?

 Which country do you reside in?

 P.S. Am I to assume that it is still on Debian?

Thanks for the question you asked.

It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem.

I checked log file,

Sun, Jun 10 2012 12:24:16 +0800

PGRADE] iceweasel:amd64 10.0.4esr-3 - 10.0.5esr-1

Is it due to the updating,


Thanks with best regards,


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Re: [OT] google.com

Try upgrading to 13 by stable backports. Perhaps this is useful:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/06/msg00892.html


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Re: [OT] google.com

IMO GOOGLE is borked.

For Firefox Ubuntu, the German Google shows English buttons and links
(selected languages are on top en - us, followed by en and on bottom de,
might cause the button and link language), the Link to google.com links
to google.de.

I didn't reboot to another Linux, e.g. Debian but installed
chromium-browser.

I e.g. could test Safari (Apple) on XP (Windows) on VBox (Arch Linux),
but suspect that Chromium is a good choice.

For Chromium www.google.com resulted in http://www.google.de/ with
German buttons and links, but the link to google.com linked to
http://www.google.de/ too.

Usually I start with google.de and if needed I use the link to
google.com, IIRC it did work yesterday, it at least did work this month.


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Re: [OT] google.com

2012-06-15 Thread rjc

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:36AM BST, lina wrote:
 It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem.

In that case quit Iceweasel and:

% mv $HOME/.mozilla/firefox $HOME/.mozilla/firefox.old

If it starts working again remove the new firefox directory, copy
the old one to the original name (keep a copy) and clear all cookies.
If that works, the answer is obvious, if it doesn't clear all the
other settings, etc.

 Is it due to the updating,

Highly unlikely.

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Syslogd message...............

2012-06-15 Thread Charlie


This happens with both powered and powered only through a
USB connection, external hard drives. Both with ext3 file systems:

Message from syslogd@nomad at Jun 16 08:04:30 ... kernel:[ 3187.986721]
journal commit I/O error

Seems to be more funny things happening with this testing system than
anything ever previously? [laughing]

But I shouldn't compare.

Be well,
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Re: Syslogd message...............

2012-06-15 Thread Alberto Fuentes


On 06/16/2012 12:14 AM, Charlie wrote:


This happens with both powered and powered only through a
USB connection, external hard drives. Both with ext3 file systems:

Message from syslogd@nomad at Jun 16 08:04:30 ... kernel:[ 3187.986721]
journal commit I/O error


This seems regular error in disks to me. If you have tried the disks in 
stable and it does not show in syslog, maybe it was just added to show, 
but it does not mean the error is not there.


Try to force check on the partition with fsck.ext -f and look for those 
entries in the lag again afterwards  :)


greets!
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Re: Syslogd message...............

2012-06-15 Thread Charlie

 On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:21:00 +0200 Alberto Fuentes
 alberto.fuen...@qindel.com suggested this:

On 06/16/2012 12:14 AM, Charlie wrote:

 This happens with both powered and powered only through a
 USB connection, external hard drives. Both with ext3 file systems:

 Message from syslogd@nomad at Jun 16 08:04:30 ...
 kernel:[ 3187.986721] journal commit I/O error

This seems regular error in disks to me. If you have tried the disks
in stable and it does not show in syslog, maybe it was just added to
show, but it does not mean the error is not there.

Try to force check on the partition with fsck.ext -f and look for
those entries in the lag again afterwards  :)

greets!
aL

Thank you, will try that.

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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:59 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:36AM BST, lina wrote:
 It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem.

 In that case quit Iceweasel and:

 % mv $HOME/.mozilla/firefox $HOME/.mozilla/firefox.old


Thanks. It works.

Best regards,


 If it starts working again remove the new firefox directory, copy
 the old one to the original name (keep a copy) and clear all cookies.
 If that works, the answer is obvious, if it doesn't clear all the
 other settings, etc.

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Re: [OT] google.com

2012-06-15 Thread hvw59601


Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:30:52 +0800, lina wrote:


I feel something weird, since yesterday when I opened www.google.com it
showed me Bahasa Malaysia, but I have never used the
www.google.com.my.


(...)

If Google says you are in Malaysia is that _you are_ there. Period. Or 
you think you know more than Google, eh? (just kidding ;-P)


Google has become very unfriendly, I always have to use a bookmarked page 
to get Google search in English instead Spanish though using the bookmark 
will work only for the first request, after that you're pissed again :-/


http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en

Sadly, you can only control Google settings _once_ you have login or by 
keeping their cookies :-(




Although I am a heavy Google user (except Google+), there is 
disappointment: although I live in Mexico and speak Spanish at home, I 
only Google search through that bookmark... and Google never catches on! 
How hard must it be to note this user never searches in the language 
where we think the user lives?


Hugo


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aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

Hello,

I'm using aptitude full-upgrade to keep my debian testing
installations up-to-date.

For a reason that I do not understand, currently full-upgrade wants to
install some rather huge packages.

Please consider the output of aptitude -D full-upgrade below.  I do
not see any reason to install texlive-fonts-extra, and aptitude also
does not seem to see one.  But it still wants to install the package.
Why?

Asking aptitude itself doesn't help:

# aptitude why texlive-fonts-extra
i   kernel-package  Suggests xmlto 
p   xmlto   Depends  docbook-xml (= 4.2-8)
p   docbook-xml Suggests docbook   
p   docbook Suggests psgml 
p   psgml   Suggests debiandoc-sgml
p   debiandoc-sgml  Suggests texlive-lang-all  
p   texlive-lang-allDepends  texlive-lang-polish (= 2012.20120516)
p   texlive-lang-polish Suggests texlive-fonts-extra   

Any suggestions?

Christoph




# aptitude -D full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  fonts-comfortaa{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-gfs-artemisia{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-gfs-complutum{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-gfs-didot{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-gfs-neohellenic{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-gfs-olga{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-gfs-solomos{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-inconsolata{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-junicode{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-linuxlibertine{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra, S: python-docutils)  
  fonts-oflb-asana-math{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  fonts-sil-gentium{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra, R: fonts-sil-gentium-basic)  
  fonts-sil-gentium-basic{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  ipython-notebook-common{a} (D: ipython-notebook)  
  libgegl-0.2-0{a} (D: gimp)  libnspr4  libnss3  
  otf-freefont{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  texlive-fonts-extra  
  texlive-fonts-extra-doc{a} (R: texlive-fonts-extra)  
  texlive-xetex{a} (R: fonts-oflb-asana-math)  
  valgrind-dbg{a} (R: valgrind)  
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libgegl-0.1-0{u} (D: gimp)  
  texpower{u} (R: texlive-latex-extra, R: texpower-manual)  
  texpower-manual{u} (R: texpower)  
The following packages will be upgraded:
  alsa-utils  audacious  audacious-plugins  audacious-plugins-data  
  autopoint  browser-plugin-gnash  bsdmainutils  bsdutils  
  debian-archive-keyring  dict  dictionaries-common  dmidecode  gdb-doc  
  gettext  gettext-base  gimp  gimp-data  glib-networking  
  glib-networking-common  glib-networking-services  gnash  gnash-common  
  gnome-themes-standard  gsettings-desktop-schemas  gvfs  gvfs-backends  
  gvfs-common  gvfs-daemons  gvfs-libs  ipython  ipython-doc  
  ipython-notebook  ipython-qtconsole  klibc-utils  kmod  libaprutil1  
  libasound2  libasound2-dev  libasound2-plugins  libasprintf0c2  
  libaudclient2  libaudcore1  libavcodec53  libavformat53  libavutil51  
  libblkid1  libdirectfb-1.2-9  libdnet  libevent-2.0-5  libfftw3-3  
  libgettextpo0  libgimp2.0  libglib2.0-0  libglib2.0-bin  
  libglib2.0-data  libglib2.0-dev  libklibc  libkmod2  libkpathsea6  
  liblcms1  libmount1  libmysqlclient16  libnautilus-extension1a  
  libnewt0.52  libnspr4-0d  libnss3-1d  libopenmpi-dev  libopenmpi1.3  
  libperl5.14  libpostproc52  libproxy0  libptexenc1  libpulse0  
  libsmbclient  libswscale2  libtdb1  libuuid1  libwbclient0  libxapian22  
  libxi-dev  libxi6  libxml-libxml-perl  libxml2  libxml2-utils  libyelp0  
  linux-headers-3.2.0-2-amd64  linux-headers-3.2.0-2-common  
  linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64  linux-libc-dev  logrotate  lsb-base  
  lsb-release  module-init-tools  mount  music123  myspell-pl  
  mysql-common  openmpi-bin  openmpi-checkpoint  openmpi-common  perl  
  perl-base  perl-doc  perl-modules  python-gi  python-gobject  
  python-pyexiv2  python-pyexiv2-doc  python-pyparsing  python-zmq  sudo  
  texlive  texlive-base  texlive-binaries  texlive-common  
  texlive-doc-base  texlive-extra-utils  texlive-font-utils  
  texlive-fonts-recommended  texlive-fonts-recommended-doc  
  texlive-generic-recommended  texlive-lang-dutch  texlive-lang-french  
  texlive-lang-german  texlive-latex-base  texlive-latex-base-doc  
  texlive-latex-extra  texlive-latex-extra-doc  texlive-latex-recommended  
  texlive-latex-recommended-doc  texlive-luatex  texlive-metapost  
  texlive-metapost-doc  texlive-pictures  texlive-pictures-doc  
  texlive-pstricks  texlive-pstricks-doc  texlive-publishers  
  texlive-publishers-doc  texlive-science  texlive-science-doc  
  traceroute  update-inetd  util-linux  valgrind  whiptail  xfce4-notifyd  
  xfce4-volumed  xinput  xserver-common  xserver-xephyr  
  xserver-xorg-core  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics  yelp-xsl  
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  gnome-keyring (R: gvfs-backends,

Re: configuring interface configuring MTA time out

On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:44:57 -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:

 On 06/14/2012 01:34 PM, Camaleón wrote:

 To be sincere, I don't know what's originating the problem. If you say
 the network settings are properly configured, why Exim4 is that lazy?
 :-?
 
 Searching for exim boot speed up in Google I found this:
 
 ***
 1.3.7. Why does exim take such a long time to start?
 http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ#Why_does_exim_take_such_a_long_time_to_start.3F
 ***
 
 Check if any of the suggested tips helps to mitigate the pain.
 
 
 Hi, Camaleón.
 
 I'm coming to the conclusion that, when Wicd is set to use a profile
 with a fixed IP address, the system is actually only connecting to the
 network as it actually comes up to the desktop (after login). That would
 be why exim4 is timing out on the fixed IP address profiles and working
 just fine on the profiles that are set to use DHCP.

To me sounds a bit unrealistic the fact a static network configuration 
can take longer than a dynamic one... Does not compute :-)

 The use of dc_minimaldns='true' didn't work to improve the situation,
 but it did cause the boot process to squawk. (It said that
 dc_minimaldns='true' will not work.) I've restored the exim4
 configuration and /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf to their default settings for
 now.

The wiki article included more tips you can try from the Exim's side.

Anyway, I'd also run the following tests:

1/ Just for testing purposes, you can momentary disable wicd and test 
with a static IP configuration defined at /etc/network/interfaces. If 
this boost the booting process then we can center exclusively in WICD 
(I still have my doubts about what is causing this).

(if 1/ makes no difference, stop here as we will have to find another 
culprit other than WICD, otherwise proceed with 2/)

2/ Ensure there's only one network daemon running (i.e., no n-m, no 
dhcpd, no networking services) to avoid any possible collision.

3/ Test with a fresh-new created user (configure WICD for him and boot), 
to discard something wrong with your current user configuration files for 
WICD.

 I think that the problem I'm seeing is a temporary (I hope) glitch
 between netscript and Wicd, and that it'll probably be resolved at some
 point by upgrades. 

You look very optimistic :-P

 That may take a while, though, because Wicd doesn't seem to be under
 terribly active development. Maybe I'll try to get in touch with the
 Debian maintainers for the two packages. Something tells me that the
 packages aren't working together the way they expect them to, and that
 it may be counterproductive to start changing default configurations
 that have been working just fine for years.

As you are running wheezy (and considering the freeze is going to be in 
about a few weeks) consider in opening a bug report.
 
 In the meantime, until I get a chance to really get into it, I can just
 continue to use Ctrl+C at the configuring interface prompt. The
 system boots up as quickly as normal, and everything appears to be
 working.

If Exim4 is started afterwards, then there should be no other gotchas.

 I'll let you know whether or not I learn anything.

Okay :-)

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Re: Fire and Thunder

2012-06-15 Thread Mika Suomalainen

On 12.06.2012 12:54, 张启德(Zhang Qide) wrote:
 2012/6/12 Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk:
 Hi,

 I know that Debian distributes its own variants, but could someone say what
 their experience of installing the latest Firefox and/or Thunderbird has
 been like in Squeeze?
 
 See http://mozilla.debian.net/
 
 

Isn't http://mozilla.debian.net/ only for newer versions of Iceweasel,
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Intermittent installation related problems

2012-06-15 Thread Richard Owlett

I have a used Lenovo R61 ThinkPad whose sole reason for 
existing is to host multiple repeated experimental installs 
of *nix. Debian is my current target. It has a Windows Vista 
install which I'm leaving untouched (used gparted iso to 
shrink its partition to half of hard disk).


My routine is to use gparted to delete whatever partition 
the previous Debian install was on and let subsequent 
install use all free space. As I only have dialup at home 
all installs requiring internet access are done using WiFi 
hotspot at local library. The netinst and LiveCD iso's were 
downloaded from the Debian site and MD5's verified.


Problem 1. With recent installs, neither netinst nor LiveCD 
could access the internet DURING the install. If I complete 
the install from the LiveCD having chosen do not configure 
network, it has *NO* problem connecting to the internet. 
What CLI tool can I use to attempt to connect to the Wifi 
hot spot?


Problem 2. On recent installs from liveCD, my root password 
is not being recognized. When this showed up I explicitly 
chose not to use the shadow password option so that I would 
be able to examine the passwords. But how do I access/change 
the password?


NOTE: In previous iterations, using the same physical CD's 
and laptop, I've done installs with no glitches.




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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:02:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:15 +, Camaleón wrote:
 If Google says you are in Malaysia is that _you are_ there.
 
 http://www.affiliateprograms.com/blog/what-to-know-about-duckduckgo/
 (Didn't read the duckduckgo article completely myself.)
 http://scroogle.org/
 https://www.ixquick.com/

(...)

Yes, I already have those added in my bookmarks but Google search results 
are by far more complete *in some cases* so I finally have to duplicate 
the searches which is a pain and a waste of time :-(

 http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en
 
 Take a look at Curt's link, you also can try http://www.google.com/ncr
 instead.

It takes me to www.google.com but it does not disable autocomplete 
which I avoid with complete=0 so I need a rather longish URI to remove 
Google's crap :-/

 Sadly, you can only control Google settings _once_ you have login or by
 keeping their cookies :-(
 
 Or by Firefox addons.

No add-on will be present in my Firefox if I can avoid it, they are 
forbidden :-)

Greetings,

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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 09:06 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:
 Although I am a heavy Google user (except Google+), there is 
 disappointment: although I live in Mexico and speak Spanish at home, I 
 only Google search through that bookmark... and Google never catches on! 
 How hard must it be to note this user never searches in the language 
 where we think the user lives?

Such companies have another policy than a FLOSS community. AFAIK Windows
in Germany is only available in German language. For Google the
customers aren't the users ;), for Windows the customers are the users.
Anyway, the users are nothing, but beast for slaughter.

Btw. they collect that much data, that I suspect, that it's impossible
today, to use all the data. Facebook lost customers, because the data is
useless for the marketing of those customers.

I always wonder why exclusive, limited editions of exclusive
manufactures with a noble and small circle of selected customers, who
are more friends than customers, still need to collect private data. How
much less CO2 emission would we have, if all those websites would limit
their pathological data collecting by using one tracker instead of seven
and more trackers? Perhaps the EU could allow me to use bulbs with
tungsten filament again, since I need light. I can't use the crippled
light modern bulbs cause and it didn't save even one kWh for my flat.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ghostery/
Blocking advertisings, customization off Google, suppressing scripts
etc.? I don't add tons of addons anymore, but
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/nuke-anything-enhanced/
If they flash, nuke'em all.

- Ralf


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Re: Problem with Dovecot

2012-06-15 Thread Keir Snow

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would try to disable ipv6 in Exim4 unless you can properly handle the new
 protocol, of course. I don't know Exim4 but Google suggests it can be done by
 setting disable_ipv6 = true at the config file. But this is Debian and
 Debian has its own way for doing things :-) so better wait until someone in
 the know can confirm this point or is able to facilitate a proper solution.

Have done so.

 Anyway, there's something I miss from the logs and is the lack of Dovecot,
 there is no single line about Dovecot, I wonder if you have configured it
 in the proper way. Configuration samples can be found here:

 http://wiki1.dovecot.org/LDA/Exim

 I forgot to mention that I have a .forward file in my home dir which is
 successfully redirecting mail to this address (all be it flagged as
 spam) even though I cant seem to read the same mails locally.

 How are you reading your e-mails? Where are the files stored? How is Dovecot
 configured? Is it pointing to the right path from where to read the user 
 mailbox?

Hmmm, in a bid to isolate the problem (and because Dovecott
configuration looks scary) I turned off Dovecot and tried Mutt with
Exim set up to dc_localdelivery='maildir_home'.  Though I could send
mails with Mutt I could not receive any, suggesting the problem is
indeed with Exim?  I had previously been using both Mutt and Roundcube
(via Dovecot) to get at mail.

Any suggestions on how to proceed? I am now thoroughly confused...
there do seem to be a lot of frozen messages in the log, could these
be something to do with it? For example:

2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfD4X-0002ZH-90 Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfFPh-0002if-F9 Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfDXZ-0002b9-Ub Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfC8T-0002VO-I2 Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfAGL-0002Mv-69 Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfGLl-0002mU-8r Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfOJJ-0003j9-Ig Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfIDt-0002u7-IY Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf8rF-0002HK-Ec Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SemNh-dL-Pm Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfK61-0003Nu-Us Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf7SB-00029X-1B Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SeuLF-0001Cm-3v Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SejZV-Mc-8U Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfNqH-0003hG-7T Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Seluf-Z7-55 Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf4dx-0001xL-Bu Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf2In-0001lj-A3 Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf8OD-0002FS-SC Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf2lp-0001nb-FO Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SelRd-Wv-3C Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf9KH-0002JC-Gw Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf5a1-00021P-NH Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SetPB-000190-GJ Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sek2X-PI-Pc Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1Sf3Es-0001pT-0J Message is frozen
2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfGon-0002oT-Ar Message is frozen

Thanks

Keir


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Re: Intermittent installation related problems

2012-06-15 Thread Brian

On Fri 15 Jun 2012 at 09:41:09 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

[Snip]

 My routine is to use gparted to delete whatever partition the previous 
 Debian install was on and let subsequent install use all free space. As 
 I only have dialup at home all installs requiring internet access are 
 done using WiFi hotspot at local library. The netinst and LiveCD iso's 
 were downloaded from the Debian site and MD5's verified.

It is unnecessary to use gparted. The installer will do it for you at
partitioning stage.

 Problem 1. With recent installs, neither netinst nor LiveCD could access 
 the internet DURING the install. If I complete the install from the 
 LiveCD having chosen do not configure network, it has *NO* problem 
 connecting to the internet.

The Wifi requires WPA. The installer does not allow WPA connections. The
installed system does.

A guess; but, with very little information, what else is there to do?

 What CLI tool can I use to attempt to connect 
 to the Wifi hot spot?

After installation?


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Re: [OT] google.com

On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 14:43 +, Camaleón wrote:
 No add-on will be present in my Firefox if I can avoid it, they are 
 forbidden :-)

:)

I limit the number off add-ons and sometimes I'm using different
profiles. Current Ubuntu has two defaults that can't be removed by
Firefox.
Global Menu Bar Integration - disbaled
Ubuntu Firefox Modification - enabled, I should disable it or take a
look if there should be packages that can be removed
I installed three myself.
Ghostery- enabled
Nuke Anything enhanced  - enabled
Secure Sanitizer- enabled, I should remove it
For Appearance there's the default, disabled and there are 7 Personas
themes, I only use(d) nine, oops, two of seven.
Just one profile, no additional browser, excepted of Chromium, I
installed today, to test the Google search engine.
On other installs I sometimes use Opera instead of Firefox/Iceweasel,
e.g. for my outdated Suse 11.2.

- Ralf

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Why do like that much people Seven of Nine? I preferred Jadzia Dax, from
all those US-American glam style alien women. Star Trek could be so
nice, if they would get rid of this US-American soap opera influences.

http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200307/dax-jadzia03/320x240.jpg 
Cheers!


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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

2012-06-15 Thread Wayne Topa


On 06/15/2012 10:24 AM, Christoph Groth wrote:

Hello,

I'm using aptitude full-upgrade to keep my debian testing
installations up-to-date.

For a reason that I do not understand, currently full-upgrade wants to
install some rather huge packages.

Please consider the output of aptitude -D full-upgrade below.  I do
not see any reason to install texlive-fonts-extra, and aptitude also
does not seem to see one.  But it still wants to install the package.
Why?

Asking aptitude itself doesn't help:

# aptitude why texlive-fonts-extra
i   kernel-package  Suggests xmlto
p   xmlto   Depends  docbook-xml (= 4.2-8)
p   docbook-xml Suggests docbook
p   docbook Suggests psgml
p   psgml   Suggests debiandoc-sgml
p   debiandoc-sgml  Suggests texlive-lang-all
p   texlive-lang-allDepends  texlive-lang-polish (= 2012.20120516)
p   texlive-lang-polish Suggests texlive-fonts-extra

Any suggestions?

Christoph




# aptitude -D full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   fonts-comfortaa{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-gfs-artemisia{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-gfs-complutum{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-gfs-didot{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-gfs-neohellenic{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-gfs-olga{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-gfs-solomos{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-inconsolata{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-junicode{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-linuxlibertine{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra, S: python-docutils)
   fonts-oflb-asana-math{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   fonts-sil-gentium{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra, R: fonts-sil-gentium-basic)
   fonts-sil-gentium-basic{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)
   ipython-notebook-common{a} (D: ipython-notebook)
   libgegl-0.2-0{a} (D: gimp)  libnspr4  libnss3
   otf-freefont{a} (D: texlive-fonts-extra)  texlive-fonts-extra
   texlive-fonts-extra-doc{a} (R: texlive-fonts-extra)
   texlive-xetex{a} (R: fonts-oflb-asana-math)
   valgrind-dbg{a} (R: valgrind)
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libgegl-0.1-0{u} (D: gimp)
   texpower{u} (R: texlive-latex-extra, R: texpower-manual)
   texpower-manual{u} (R: texpower)
The following packages will be upgraded:
   alsa-utils  audacious  audacious-plugins  audacious-plugins-data
   autopoint  browser-plugin-gnash  bsdmainutils  bsdutils
   debian-archive-keyring  dict  dictionaries-common  dmidecode  gdb-doc
   gettext  gettext-base  gimp  gimp-data  glib-networking
   glib-networking-common  glib-networking-services  gnash  gnash-common
   gnome-themes-standard  gsettings-desktop-schemas  gvfs  gvfs-backends
   gvfs-common  gvfs-daemons  gvfs-libs  ipython  ipython-doc
   ipython-notebook  ipython-qtconsole  klibc-utils  kmod  libaprutil1
   libasound2  libasound2-dev  libasound2-plugins  libasprintf0c2
   libaudclient2  libaudcore1  libavcodec53  libavformat53  libavutil51
   libblkid1  libdirectfb-1.2-9  libdnet  libevent-2.0-5  libfftw3-3
   libgettextpo0  libgimp2.0  libglib2.0-0  libglib2.0-bin
   libglib2.0-data  libglib2.0-dev  libklibc  libkmod2  libkpathsea6
   liblcms1  libmount1  libmysqlclient16  libnautilus-extension1a
   libnewt0.52  libnspr4-0d  libnss3-1d  libopenmpi-dev  libopenmpi1.3
   libperl5.14  libpostproc52  libproxy0  libptexenc1  libpulse0
   libsmbclient  libswscale2  libtdb1  libuuid1  libwbclient0  libxapian22
   libxi-dev  libxi6  libxml-libxml-perl  libxml2  libxml2-utils  libyelp0
   linux-headers-3.2.0-2-amd64  linux-headers-3.2.0-2-common
   linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64  linux-libc-dev  logrotate  lsb-base
   lsb-release  module-init-tools  mount  music123  myspell-pl
   mysql-common  openmpi-bin  openmpi-checkpoint  openmpi-common  perl
   perl-base  perl-doc  perl-modules  python-gi  python-gobject
   python-pyexiv2  python-pyexiv2-doc  python-pyparsing  python-zmq  sudo
   texlive  texlive-base  texlive-binaries  texlive-common
   texlive-doc-base  texlive-extra-utils  texlive-font-utils
   texlive-fonts-recommended  texlive-fonts-recommended-doc
   texlive-generic-recommended  texlive-lang-dutch  texlive-lang-french
   texlive-lang-german  texlive-latex-base  texlive-latex-base-doc
   texlive-latex-extra  texlive-latex-extra-doc  texlive-latex-recommended
   texlive-latex-recommended-doc  texlive-luatex  texlive-metapost
   texlive-metapost-doc  texlive-pictures  texlive-pictures-doc
   texlive-pstricks  texlive-pstricks-doc  texlive-publishers
   texlive-publishers-doc  texlive-science  texlive-science-doc
   traceroute  update-inetd  util-linux  valgrind  whiptail  xfce4-notifyd
   xfce4-volumed  xinput  xserver-common  xserver-xephyr
   xserver-xorg-core  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics  yelp-xsl
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
   gnome-keyring (R: gvfs-backends, S: libgnome-keyring0)
   uuid-runtime (R: libuuid1)
154 packages upgraded, 22 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,130 MB of archives. After unpacking 781 MB

Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:43:28PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 Agreed there are many reasons for speech computing, as unique and
 individual as those who so choose...I imagine even a  few who just
 want to work faster, since the human brain can process verbally with
 greater speed than visually.
 back to this though.

Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
reading it aloud?

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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
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Re: Problem with Iceweasel and low-quality fonts

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:29:01 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

 On 2012-05-28 14:17:08 +, Camaleón wrote:
 I wonder why is that this is still needed because Firefox should
 respect the system font settings.
 
 It seems that Firefox and fontconfig have different ways of dealing with
 missing fonts, and fontconfig works better. The bug I reported with some
 recent explanations:
 
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761022

For the sample page you mention in the report, I get the proper results, 
I mean, Firefox loads Lucida Sans Unicode which is the second 
alternative font face specified by the CSS style and I have it installed 
in my system.

sm01@stt008:~$ fc-match 'Lucida Sans Unicode'
l_10646.ttf: Lucida Sans Unicode Normal

It's a perfect match (1:1) so for me, Firefox does what fontconfig 
commands.

Do you have any of the mentioned fonts (Lucida Grande, Lucida Sans 
Unicode, Lucida, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif) installed in your system?

On the other hand, the font rendered in the image you're attaching to the 
bug report it looks like Bitstream Vera Sans instead Lucida Sans but 
this is just personal feeling...

Greetings,

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Re: mdadm error - superfluous RAID member

2012-06-15 Thread Tom H

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote:
 On 13/06/12 23:15, Tom H wrote:

 Since metadata 1.1 or 1.2 stores the metadata at the beginning rather
 than at the end, perhaps using a partitioned mdraid device with that
 metada works with squeeze.

 Good idea.  I'll boot it up with a live CD and report back soon.

I don't think that you can change metadata version without a re-format.


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Re: [OT] google.com

2012-06-15 Thread rjc

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 01:27:10PM BST, lina wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:59 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:36AM BST, lina wrote:
  It's iceweasle related, other browser no problem.
 
  In that case quit Iceweasel and:
 
  % mv $HOME/.mozilla/firefox $HOME/.mozilla/firefox.old
 
 Thanks. It works.
 
 Best regards,

No worries.

As suspected - coockies or config is at fault :^)

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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com writes:

 On 06/15/2012 10:24 AM, Christoph Groth wrote:

 For a reason that I do not understand, currently full-upgrade wants to
 install some rather huge packages.

 Install the debian-reference package and read section 2.3.5. System wide
 upgrade

Thanks.  I read section 2.3.5, but I don't see how this helps with my
problem.

aptitude -D is supposed to show for each package to be newly installed
the reason why it is needed.  In my case, aptitude wants to install
texlive-fonts-extra though this package is currently not installed and
also (to my knowledge) not required or recommended in any way.

apt-get full-upgrade wants to do the same, BTW.

Christoph


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Re: [OT] google.com

On 2012-06-15, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote:
 No worries.

 As suspected - coockies or config is at fault :^)

I asked if she had cookies enabled but I neglected to ask whether she
had tried getting rid of them (in the privacy settings) and starting
with a clean slate cookie-wise, but I guess we'll never know now
whether it was config or cookie (unless it happens again!).


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Re: configuring interface configuring MTA time out

2012-06-15 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

On 06/15/2012 10:35 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:44:57 -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
 
 On 06/14/2012 01:34 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 
 To be sincere, I don't know what's originating the problem. If you say
 the network settings are properly configured, why Exim4 is that lazy?
 :-?

 Searching for exim boot speed up in Google I found this:

 ***
 1.3.7. Why does exim take such a long time to start?
 http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ#Why_does_exim_take_such_a_long_time_to_start.3F
 ***

 Check if any of the suggested tips helps to mitigate the pain.


 Hi, Camaleón.

 I'm coming to the conclusion that, when Wicd is set to use a profile
 with a fixed IP address, the system is actually only connecting to the
 network as it actually comes up to the desktop (after login). That would
 be why exim4 is timing out on the fixed IP address profiles and working
 just fine on the profiles that are set to use DHCP.
 
 To me sounds a bit unrealistic the fact a static network configuration 
 can take longer than a dynamic one... Does not compute :-)
 

I know, but it's true. Not sure why, but it's true.

 The use of dc_minimaldns='true' didn't work to improve the situation,
 but it did cause the boot process to squawk. (It said that
 dc_minimaldns='true' will not work.) I've restored the exim4
 configuration and /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf to their default settings for
 now.
 
 The wiki article included more tips you can try from the Exim's side.
 

The FQDN tip didn't work, and I didn't think that the IPV6 tips were
appropriate, since none of these networks uses it, and my notebook isn't
set up to use it by default.

 Anyway, I'd also run the following tests:
 
 1/ Just for testing purposes, you can momentary disable wicd and test 
 with a static IP configuration defined at /etc/network/interfaces. If 
 this boost the booting process then we can center exclusively in WICD 
 (I still have my doubts about what is causing this).
 
 (if 1/ makes no difference, stop here as we will have to find another 
 culprit other than WICD, otherwise proceed with 2/)
 

Yup, I set Wicd up to not start at boot, and I configured static IP in
/etc/network/interfaces. At the next reboot, I saw the same 60 sec.
delay in configuring interface and the 60 sec. delay for starting MTA.

 2/ Ensure there's only one network daemon running (i.e., no n-m, no 
 dhcpd, no networking services) to avoid any possible collision.
 

I checked, just to be sure. No other GUI network manager has ever been
installed on the system.

 3/ Test with a fresh-new created user (configure WICD for him and boot), 
 to discard something wrong with your current user configuration files for 
 WICD.

Done, and no difference.

 
 I think that the problem I'm seeing is a temporary (I hope) glitch
 between netscript and Wicd, and that it'll probably be resolved at some
 point by upgrades. 
 
 You look very optimistic :-P
 

I'm trying. ;-)

 That may take a while, though, because Wicd doesn't seem to be under
 terribly active development. Maybe I'll try to get in touch with the
 Debian maintainers for the two packages. Something tells me that the
 packages aren't working together the way they expect them to, and that
 it may be counterproductive to start changing default configurations
 that have been working just fine for years.
 
 As you are running wheezy (and considering the freeze is going to be in 
 about a few weeks) consider in opening a bug report.
  

I'm thinking of doing that. I guess I'll file a bug against netscript.
The problem may not be there, but it sure as heck started when the
recent netscript upgrade was installed.

 In the meantime, until I get a chance to really get into it, I can just
 continue to use Ctrl+C at the configuring interface prompt. The
 system boots up as quickly as normal, and everything appears to be
 working.
 
 If Exim4 is started afterwards, then there should be no other gotchas.
 

Yes, Exim4 is starting up properly, and everything seems to be going well.

I'll run bugreport and file against netscript to see what happens.

Thank you for your ideas, and I'll return to this thread when I have any
kind of information.

Best regards,
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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

2012-06-15 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2012-06-15 18:15 +0200, Christoph Groth wrote:

 aptitude -D is supposed to show for each package to be newly installed
 the reason why it is needed.  In my case, aptitude wants to install
 texlive-fonts-extra though this package is currently not installed and
 also (to my knowledge) not required or recommended in any way.

Interesting.

 apt-get full-upgrade wants to do the same, BTW.

Please show the output of dpkg -l texlive-fonts-extra.

Cheers,
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Re: Problem with Dovecot

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:12:39 +0100, Keir Snow wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 How are you reading your e-mails? Where are the files stored? How is
 Dovecot configured? Is it pointing to the right path from where to read
 the user mailbox?
 
 Hmmm, in a bid to isolate the problem (and because Dovecott
 configuration looks scary) I turned off Dovecot and tried Mutt with Exim
 set up to dc_localdelivery='maildir_home'.  

Mmm... default Exim4 configuration should not require for you tweak 
nothing in order to send local messages so I would start from here and 
once this works as expected you can start the next step but if local 
mails do not work the rest will fail.

That said, try to send yourself an e-mail form the machine Exims runs:

***
sm01@stt008:~$ telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 stt008.linux.site ESMTP Exim 4.69 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:17:27 +0200
helo linux.site
250 stt008.linux.site Hello localhost [127.0.0.1]
mail from: sm01@localhost
250 OK
rcpt to: sm01@localhost
250 Accepted
data
354 Enter message, ending with . on a line by itself
test
.
250 OK id=1SfZDk-0002H5-5i
quit
221 stt008.linux.site closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.
***

Now you read it:

***
sm01@stt008:~$ mailx
Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
/var/mail/sm01: 1 message 1 new
N  1 sm01@localhost Fri Jun 15 18:18   15/473   
 1
Message 1:
From sm01@localhost Fri Jun 15 18:18:03 2012
Envelope-to: sm01@localhost
Delivery-date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:18:03 +0200
From: sm01@localhost
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:18:03 +0200

test

 
***

(by default messages are stored at %HOME/mbox)

If this simple test fails then you better stop here, read the log and 
solve the problem in first place :-)

 Though I could send mails with Mutt I could not receive any, suggesting
 the problem is indeed with Exim?  I had previously been using both Mutt
 and Roundcube (via Dovecot) to get at mail.

Forget by now about Mutt/Roundcube/Dovecot/.forward extras and put your 
efforts in making Exim to deliver your messages to the default mailbox 
settings. Once this is working fine you can continue adding things to the 
chain.

 Any suggestions on how to proceed? I am now thoroughly confused... there
 do seem to be a lot of frozen messages in the log, could these be
 something to do with it? For example:
 
 2012-06-15 06:45:02 1SfD4X-0002ZH-90 Message is frozen 

(...)

All those messages share the same time, they have to be all the failed 
tests you've been doing.

You can try to force Exim to deliver again (exim -d -M 1SfD4X-0002ZH-90 
where -d is to toggle on debug flag and -M is for the message 
identifier) but I'm afraid until Exim is not properly configured it will 
fail in the same way.

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101% OT: books on debian of a beginner nature?

On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
 reading it aloud?

Humans aren't equal.

Even healthy ears differ a little bit. My better ear is the left ear,
but to understand the contend of a spoken text, e.g. at the telephone,
I'm listening with my right ear.
I'm a dyslexic, when reading, words can become colored bars etc., but it
can be easier to read a scientific text, than to listen to it,
especially if a speech synth is reading the text.
Watching and listening a film is relaxing, listening to an audio drama
is exhausting for me.
And even the light is important. Old bulb light makes it easier to
understand a text for me, reading or listening, than energy-saving bulb
light. It's verifiable that the result of IQ tests differ much, much,
much more than just 3 points, regarding to the color of the room, where
people do such tests, while in the past it was claimed they are +- 3
points exact.

There are less rules for how to learn, that are true. To learn how to
draw, some people need to learn some tricks about anatomy, perspective
etc., while other people need to learn to use the right hemispherium
cerebri, instead of the left. Most artists are left-hander, dyslexic or
something that is related to the right hemispherium cerebri.

Disability and gift often is the same, just seen from a different point
of view.

We do know less about how our senses really work, about how our brain
really work.


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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

2012-06-15 Thread Javier Vasquez

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
 On 2012-06-15 18:15 +0200, Christoph Groth wrote:

 aptitude -D is supposed to show for each package to be newly installed
 the reason why it is needed.  In my case, aptitude wants to install
 texlive-fonts-extra though this package is currently not installed and
 also (to my knowledge) not required or recommended in any way.

 Interesting.

 apt-get full-upgrade wants to do the same, BTW.

 Please show the output of dpkg -l texlive-fonts-extra.

 Cheers,
       Sven

Some time back the policy changed to install by default the
recommended ones.  So I had to include in my setting:

APT::Install-Recommends false;

I'm not sure if that would help you.  Also I would turn off
suggested packages if you have them turned on (they are not by
default), like:

APT::Install-Suggests false;

Perhaps you could try those and see what happens, :-)  It might this
is not related to your problem, but if you know what you're doing,
it'd be worth giving it a try...

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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

2012-06-15 Thread Tom H

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Christoph Groth c...@falma.de wrote:
 Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com writes:
 On 06/15/2012 10:24 AM, Christoph Groth wrote:

 For a reason that I do not understand, currently full-upgrade wants to
 install some rather huge packages.

 Install the debian-reference package and read section 2.3.5. System wide
 upgrade

 Thanks.  I read section 2.3.5, but I don't see how this helps with my
 problem.

 aptitude -D is supposed to show for each package to be newly installed
 the reason why it is needed.  In my case, aptitude wants to install
 texlive-fonts-extra though this package is currently not installed and
 also (to my knowledge) not required or recommended in any way.

 apt-get full-upgrade wants to do the same, BTW.

Run aptitude search '?reverse-depends(texlive-fonts-extra)' and
you'll see that it's dpkg that's pulling it in.


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Re: dd_rescue No additional sense

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:51:03PM -0400, KS wrote:
 I might actually end up giving the machine to the owner with Linux
 slapped on it :p
 
 . searching for options now.

Just say its the new Windows 8, :)

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Re: something about slurm-llnl

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 04:28:09PM +, Curt wrote:
 On 2012-06-11, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am a bit confused. Today during upgrade,
 
  it showed me
 
  Not starting slurm-llnl
  slurm.conf was not found in /etc/slurm-llnl
  Please follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/slurm-llnl/README.Debian.gz
 
  Shall I configure the slurm on my personal laptop,
 
 It's for linux clusters, so I would say unless you're running or are
 part of a linux cluster, which doesn't seem to be the case, you
 shouldn't be running it.  I wonder why it's installed on your machine
 in the first place.

According to previous posts by this person you are incorrect.

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Re: dd_rescue No additional sense

On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 04:36 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:51:03PM -0400, KS wrote:
  I might actually end up giving the machine to the owner with Linux
  slapped on it :p
  
  . searching for options now.
 
 Just say its the new Windows 8, :)

:D

Windows 8 Server Pro without the need for unified extensible firmware
interface featuring hardware.


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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de writes:

 On 2012-06-15 18:15 +0200, Christoph Groth wrote:

 aptitude -D is supposed to show for each package to be newly installed
 the reason why it is needed.  In my case, aptitude wants to install
 texlive-fonts-extra though this package is currently not installed and
 also (to my knowledge) not required or recommended in any way.

 Interesting.

 apt-get full-upgrade wants to do the same, BTW.

 Please show the output of dpkg -l texlive-fonts-extra.

% dpkg -l texlive-fonts-extra
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
un  texlive-fonts- none (no description available)


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Re: configuring interface configuring MTA time out

2012-06-15 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

Hi, Camaleón.

FYI I filed a bug against netscript package -- 677...@bugs.debian.org

Best,
Gilbert


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Re: Syslogd message...............

2012-06-15 Thread Sthu Deus

Good time of the day, Charlie.


You worte:

 This happens with both powered and powered only through a
 USB connection, external hard drives. Both with ext3 file systems:
 
 Message from syslogd@nomad at Jun 16 08:04:30 ...
 kernel:[ 3187.986721] journal commit I/O error
 
 Seems to be more funny things happening with this testing system than
 anything ever previously? [laughing]
 
 But I shouldn't compare.

It may be USB-to-(S/P)ATA controller problem and can be on until You
either: find one that works well OR connect it to host directly
(through *ATA-cable).

I do not think it is FS problem in case You see the messages
periodically.


Sthu.


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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

Javier Vasquez j.e.vasque...@gmail.com writes:

 Some time back the policy changed to install by default the
 recommended ones.  So I had to include in my setting:

 APT::Install-Recommends false;

 I'm not sure if that would help you.  Also I would turn off
 suggested packages if you have them turned on (they are not by
 default), like:

 APT::Install-Suggests false;

 Perhaps you could try those and see what happens, :-)  It might this
 is not related to your problem, but if you know what you're doing,
 it'd be worth giving it a try...

I believe this is not related to my problem.  If some package depends,
recommends or suggests texlive-fonts-extra, this should be shown by
aptitude -D.  Also, aptitude -RD full-upgrade (this is equivalent to
setting APT::Install-Recommends to false) wants to install
texlive-fonts-extra as well.


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Re: something about slurm-llnl

On 2012-06-15, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
 
 It's for linux clusters, so I would say unless you're running or are
 part of a linux cluster, which doesn't seem to be the case, you
 shouldn't be running it.  I wonder why it's installed on your machine
 in the first place.

 According to previous posts by this person you are incorrect.

She's running or is part of a linux cluster (or has a multicore machine
that could benefit from this software, or is a tester/developer), this having
been mentioned in previous posts, and therefore should be running slurm?

Thanks for intervening on her behalf in any case.


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Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?

2012-06-15 Thread keith

On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
 reading it aloud? 

Perhaps not if you're blind


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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

2012-06-15 Thread Wayne Topa


On 06/15/2012 12:15 PM, Christoph Groth wrote:

Wayne Topalinux...@gmail.com  writes:


On 06/15/2012 10:24 AM, Christoph Groth wrote:



For a reason that I do not understand, currently full-upgrade wants to
install some rather huge packages.



Install the debian-reference package and read section 2.3.5. System wide
upgrade


Thanks.  I read section 2.3.5, but I don't see how this helps with my
problem.


You should make precautionary moves for the full upgrade while 
gathering latest information from mailing list and using common senses.


The cautions alone are enough to give you a hint.  Did you do the 13 
steps after the above?


In 19+ years of using Debian, I have done only 1 full-upgrade and that 
was a few years ago.  For me, once was enough. A safe-upgrade means just 
that, safe.


YMMV



aptitude -D is supposed to show for each package to be newly installed
the reason why it is needed.  In my case, aptitude wants to install
texlive-fonts-extra though this package is currently not installed and
also (to my knowledge) not required or recommended in any way.

apt-get full-upgrade wants to do the same, BTW.

Christoph





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Re: configuring interface configuring MTA time out

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:18:03 -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:

 On 06/15/2012 10:35 AM, Camaleón wrote:

 Anyway, I'd also run the following tests:
 
 1/ Just for testing purposes, you can momentary disable wicd and test
 with a static IP configuration defined at /etc/network/interfaces. If
 this boost the booting process then we can center exclusively in WICD
 (I still have my doubts about what is causing this).
 
 (if 1/ makes no difference, stop here as we will have to find another
 culprit other than WICD, otherwise proceed with 2/)
 
 
 Yup, I set Wicd up to not start at boot, and I configured static IP in
 /etc/network/interfaces. At the next reboot, I saw the same 60 sec.
 delay in configuring interface and the 60 sec. delay for starting MTA.

Wow :-O

Then forget about WICD, profiles and all that... if the traditional ifup 
method is exposing the same behaviour this has to be something else.

 As you are running wheezy (and considering the freeze is going to be in
 about a few weeks) consider in opening a bug report.
  
  
 I'm thinking of doing that. I guess I'll file a bug against netscript.
 The problem may not be there, but it sure as heck started when the
 recent netscript upgrade was installed.

I'm also running wheezy (and removed the said package which had to 
reinstall) but I'm using N-M and I haven't noticed this problem :-?

 In the meantime, until I get a chance to really get into it, I can
 just continue to use Ctrl+C at the configuring interface prompt.
 The system boots up as quickly as normal, and everything appears to be
 working.
 
 If Exim4 is started afterwards, then there should be no other gotchas.
 
 
 Yes, Exim4 is starting up properly, and everything seems to be going
 well.
 
 I'll run bugreport and file against netscript to see what happens.
 
 Thank you for your ideas, and I'll return to this thread when I have any
 kind of information.

Ok, keep us informed. I feel curious about what's going on here :-)

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Re: Fwd: Re: LXDE background shows my entire /home/USER as icons.

2012-06-15 Thread Mika Suomalainen

On 13.06.2012 19:47, Alexander Wirt wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 Hi,

 Could you force unsubscribe and ban joe1assis...@gmail.com from
 Debian-user.

 That address is sending random email like this to random people on
 Debian-user when they send something.

 As you can see, the sender identifies himself as
 debian-user@lists.debian.org and has it as reply-to address and it
 encourages top-posting.

 PS. Sorry for emailing about this again, I know that some people have
 done this before me, but it seems that nothing has been done about this
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 the user is still not subscribed, do you have the full message including all
 headers for me? (preferably as an rfc822 attachement)
 
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Adobe Flash in Chromium out of date: stable debian

2012-06-15 Thread John W. Foster

Far a while now the adobe flash player/plugin in Debian's Chromium
browser has been 'out of date' with the approriate warnings popping up ,
asking to update the flashplayer. I thought the flashplayer was 'built
in' in Chromium as it is in Google Chrome. I have both installed and
that appears to be the case in both cases. Neithe is up to date. When I
hit the 'update plugin' it sent me to adobes site to download the
updated flash player. Now I already have the debian
flashplugin-nonfree installed, so what is up with this. Are all of
these 'out of date'? or just the flashplugin. Does Chromium actually
have flashplayer built in? Yes I can hit 'run anyway, but its not what I
want to do. Any ideas on how to fix this. BTW: Iceweasel does not show
this issue. Just runs too slow for me.
Thanks!!
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Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

2012-06-15 Thread Dom


On 15/06/12 17:15, Christoph Groth wrote:

Wayne Topalinux...@gmail.com  writes:


On 06/15/2012 10:24 AM, Christoph Groth wrote:



For a reason that I do not understand, currently full-upgrade wants to
install some rather huge packages.


aptitude -D is supposed to show for each package to be newly installed
the reason why it is needed.  In my case, aptitude wants to install
texlive-fonts-extra though this package is currently not installed and
also (to my knowledge) not required or recommended in any way.

apt-get full-upgrade wants to do the same, BTW.


What does

aptitude why texlive-fonts-extra

say?

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Re: Fwd: Re: LXDE background shows my entire /home/USER as icons.

2012-06-15 Thread Alexander Wirt

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 On 13.06.2012 19:47, Alexander Wirt wrote:
  On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  Could you force unsubscribe and ban joe1assis...@gmail.com from
  Debian-user.
 
  That address is sending random email like this to random people on
  Debian-user when they send something.
 
  As you can see, the sender identifies himself as
  debian-user@lists.debian.org and has it as reply-to address and it
  encourages top-posting.
 
  PS. Sorry for emailing about this again, I know that some people have
  done this before me, but it seems that nothing has been done about this
  issue.
  the user is still not subscribed, do you have the full message including all
  headers for me? (preferably as an rfc822 attachement)
  
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 Is this OK?
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Re: resize pictures received by mailserver

2012-06-15 Thread Tixy

On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 04:34 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:37:18 -0500, Christofer wrote in message 
 caoevnyujsmftaqze+suzcvhjnvk48hnvjlngofzg5bxu-xv...@mail.gmail.com:
 
   It's much simpler to do:
  
mogrify -resize '800x600' testimage.jpg
  
   or to limit it to 800 in any dimension
  
mogrify -resize '800x800' testimage.jpg
  
   (These commands preserve aspect ratio and only resize if image is
   greater than the given dimensions.)  
  
  Well, color me impressed!  I didn't know about that notation.  That
  certainly would have saved me a lot of pain with some shell scripts I
  wrote awhile back for image management!  I'll keep that in my bag of
  tricks and thank you for the tip!
 
 ..I lost you guys here; is the new trick in the bag the use 
 of mogrify, or is it putting the  in '800x600', inside 
 the single quotes, typo style like?
 

It's the  but as that is treated specially by shells, you need to
include the argument in '' or take other precautions.

imagemagic has a wealth of options, it's well worth reading them
whenever you have an image manipulation task. [1] 

-- 
Tixy

[1] http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php



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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-06-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 6/14/2012 8:02 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:

AF drives are Advanced Format drives with more than 512 bytes per
sector right?

Correct. Advanced Format is the industry wide name chosen for drives
that have 4096B physical sectors, but present 512B sectors at the
interface level, doing translation internally, transparently.

I don't trust anybody ;-)

Good for you! :)

Here's what I was referring to:
http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html

JFS is the absolute best at
deletion, so you may want to try it if XFS gives you problems.

Interesting. Lets see:

~$ time dd if=/dev/zero of=myth-test bs=8192 count=512000
512000+0 records in
512000+0 records out
4194304000 bytes (4.2 GB) copied, 50.1455 s, 83.6 MB/s

real0m50.167s
user0m1.560s
sys 0m43.915s

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.0G Jun 15 04:52 myth-test

~$ echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
~$ time rm myth-test; sync

real0m0.027s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.004s

XFS and the kernel block layer required 4ms to perform the 4GB file
delete. The disk access required 23ms. What does this say about the
JFS claim? I simply don't get the if XFS gives you problems bit. The
author was obviously nothing close to a filesystem expert.

I additionally found a foum post from four years ago were someone
states that xfs has problems with interrupted power supply:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/xfs-or-jfs-685745/#post3352854

I found a forum post from 4 years ago

Myths, lies, and fairy tales. There was an XFS bug related to power
fail that was fixed over a year before this forum post was made. Note
that nobody in that thread posts anything from the authoritative source,
as I do here?

http://www.xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Why_do_I_see_binary_NULLS_in_some_files_after_recovery_when_I_unplugged_the_power.3F

I only advise XFS if you have any means to guarantee uninterrupted
power supply. It's not the most resistant fs when it comes to power
outages.

I advise using a computer only if you have a UPS, no matter what
filesystem you use. It's incredibe that this guy would make such a
statement, instead of promoting the use of UPS devices. Abrupt power
loss, or worse, voltage bumping which often accompanies brown
conditions, is not good for any computer equipment, especially PSUs and
mechanical hard drives, regardless of what filesystem one uses.

The only data lost due to power failure is inflight write data. The
vast majority of that is going to be due to Linux buffer cache. No
matter what FS you use, if you're writing, especially a large file, when
power dies the write has failed and you've lost that file. EXT3 was a
bit more resilient to power loss because of a bug, not a design goal.
The same bug caused horrible performance with some workloads because of
the excessive hard coded syncs.

I usually don't have blackouts. At least as long that the PC turn off.
But I don't have a UPS.

Get one. Best investment you'll ever make computer-wise. For your
Norco, we'll assume all 20 bays are filled for sizing purposes. One of
these should be large enough to run your server and your desktop:

http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR900G-GRtotal_watts=200
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR900GItotal_watts=200

(Sorry if I mis guessed your native language as German instead of French
or Italian) I listed both units as I don't know which power plug
configuration you need.

If these UPS seem expensive, consider the fact that they may continue
working for 20+ years. I bought my home office APC SU1400RMNET used in
2003 for US $250 ($1000+ new) after it had been in corporate service for
3 years on lease. It's at least 12 years old and I've been running it
for 9 years continuously. I've replaced the batteries ($80) twice,
about every 4 years. Buying this unit used, at a steal of a price, is
one of the best investments I ever made. I expect it to last at least
another 8 years, if not more.

I will get better performance if I have the correct parameters.

Yes.

2. If device is a single level md striped array, AGs=16, unless the
device size is 16TB. In that case AGs=device_size/1TB.

A single level md striped array is any linux raid containing disks.
Like my raid5.

I use single level simply to differentiate from a nested array, which
is multi-level.

In contrast would be my linear raid containing one or more raids?

This is called a nested array. The term comes from nested loop in
programming.

Ok, the chunck (=stripe)

chunk = strip, not stripe

Chunk and strip are two words for the same thing. Linux md uses the
term chunk. LSI and other hardware vendors use the term strip.
They describe the amount of data written to an individual array disk
during a striped write operation. Stripe is equal to all of the
chunks/strips added together.

E.g. A 16 disk RAID10 has 8 stripe spindles (8 are mirrors). Each
spindle has a

Re: aptitude full-upgrade installs unnecessary packages

2012-06-15 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2012-06-15 18:38 +0200, Tom H wrote:

 Run aptitude search '?reverse-depends(texlive-fonts-extra)' and
 you'll see that it's dpkg that's pulling it in.

Sorry, you seem to be mistaken: texlive-fonts-extra depends on dpkg, not
the other way around.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?

On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 17:55 +0100, keith wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
  reading it aloud? 
 
 Perhaps not if you're blind

Braille reading? Blind people have issues to type and to read at the
same time, but just reading shouldn't be an issue for trained braille
readers.


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