Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > How would this be accomplished? (Answer cannot contain a use of sudo! > > No circular logic please.) > > ... > > Right. Because normal users can't change the system time. > > Sorry, wrong. With 'folk ALL=(ALL) ALL', user folk can run as root AN

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 12/12/2013 1:11 PM, Goren Buckwalk wrote: ... > I have a system with two AMD Athlon 2400 MP processors and the > motherboard has 4 slots for RAM. That makes this board ~10 years old. ... > About a month ago, I found the box crashed again and beeping on > reboot, so going through the same elimi

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Goren Buckwalk wrote: > Pics I can do. However, the angles a bit rough, me leaning on one > leg, system is up and running at the end of rack near the wall, Oh those photos were difficult! :-) But I think you definitely have the bad capacitor problem. Read about it here. http://en.wikipedia.o

Re: [solved] How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 05:13:53AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Thank you Gregory, this is what I (for what reasons ever, maybe because > I've got a cold) couldn't find. I clicked on the download and downloaded > the iso from the same directory ;), but I wasn't aware about it. As far > as I can see

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > May we look a little closer at one or two of the things you say? > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Because startx does not use .xsession. You have things criss-crossed. Oops! I was definitely wrong with that statement. > 1. Running startx basically runs xinit. > > 2. startx first looks

[solved] How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
It's not in the Archive, but I already sent it 39 minutes ago. Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: [solved] How to verify install iso? Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:34:55 +0100 Mailer: Evolution 3.10.3 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/12/13 13:15, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > You misunderstand me. > > If I've got a checksum from the iso, e.g. > > [rocketmouse@archlinux downloads]$ sha1sum > debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso > c7050ae8ccda40456f6a1c4936ea8f170736b440 > debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso > > where can I find a file wit

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/13/13, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 03:52:34AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> And where is a file to check if this is the correct checksum? > > I honestly can't remember the last time I ran across a list discussion > which had replies going all around the question, but didn'

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 14:02 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Loopback mount the .iso file, and do a gpg signature check on the > .../Release.gpg file. [rocketmouse@archlinux downloads]$ sudo mount -o loop debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso iso/ [sudo] password for rocketmouse: mount: /dev/loop0 is wri

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 03:52:34AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > And where is a file to check if this is the correct checksum? I honestly can't remember the last time I ran across a list discussion which had replies going all around the question, but didn't satisfactorily answer the actual question

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 03:53 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 09:50 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote: > > You don't need one, you run : > > > > /usr/bin/md5sum /file/you/downloaded > > > > in a shell. That will give you the number to compare. ;) > > To compare with what? > > There i

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 13:20 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> But have you done a self-check. This a first step: >> check SHAs. > > That is what I want to do, not a self-test, but before I burn the iso, I > want to verify the checksum. > > I have this > > [rocketm

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 13:28 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > If I've got a checksum from the iso, e.g. > > > > [rocketmouse@archlinux downloads]$ sha1sum > > debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso > > c7050ae8ccda40456f6a1c4936ea8f170736b440 debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.is

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 09:50 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote: > You don't need one, you run : > > /usr/bin/md5sum /file/you/downloaded > > in a shell. That will give you the number to compare. ;) To compare with what? There is no file to compare! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 13:20 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > But have you done a self-check. This a first step: > check SHAs. That is what I want to do, not a self-test, but before I burn the iso, I want to verify the checksum. I have this [rocketmouse@archlinux downloads]$ sha1sum debian-7.2.0-i

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Diogene Laerce
You don't need one, you run : /usr/bin/md5sum /file/you/downloaded in a shell. That will give you the number to compare. ;) On 12/13/2013 09:28 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: If I've got a checksum from the iso, e.g. [rocketmouse@archlinux downloads]$ sha

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If I've got a checksum from the iso, e.g. > > [rocketmouse@archlinux downloads]$ sha1sum > debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso > c7050ae8ccda40456f6a1c4936ea8f170736b440 debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso > > where can I find a file with checksums to check/compare? > I ca

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 12:27 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> - you can also use the installer to self-check. > > If it's compromised a self-check could be done compared with what ever > source. True. But have you done a self-check. This a first step: check SHAs.

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
You misunderstand me. If I've got a checksum from the iso, e.g. [rocketmouse@archlinux downloads]$ sha1sum debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso c7050ae8ccda40456f6a1c4936ea8f170736b440 debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso where can I find a file with checksums to check/compare? I need a source and don't kn

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/12/13 12:41, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 12:27 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> - you can also use the installer to self-check. > > If it's compromised a self-check could be done compared with what ever > source. I don't understand what you are trying to say. > >> I'm guess

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 12:27 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > - you can also use the installer to self-check. If it's compromised a self-check could be done compared with what ever source. > I'm guessing you should read the FAQ (link is top-right of that page > [*2]) if that's over your head. There

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/12/13 11:59, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > How can I verify that the debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso is ok? Aside from the methods exhaustively detailed in the links I've provided - you can also use the installer to self-check. e.g. with debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso:- Advanced options -> Expert insta

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 12:14 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > How can I verify that the debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso is ok? > > > > http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.en.html > > http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.de.html > > Try this: > http://forums.debian.net/view

Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > How can I verify that the debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso is ok? > > http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.en.html > http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.de.html Try this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=47699 Good luck Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

startx (with no per-user config) works, kdm has _issues_

2013-12-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
So I have no per-user config, such as ~/.xinitrc , ~/.xsession and ~/.xsessionrc . startx after linux console login works well. When I login to Linux console, then run sudo service kdm start, and then login from there to xfce, my XFCE4 keyboard shortcuts don't work (Settings -> Keyboard -> Applic

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/13/13, Brian wrote: > On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 17:23:31 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> What seemed like a good idea, at, the, time ... is longer looking so >> good. Any ideas why this odd behaviour would appear as it does? > > You could try following the advice given in > >/usr/share/do

How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
How can I verify that the debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso is ok? http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.en.html http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.de.html I neither understand the English nor the German explanation. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I would replace all capacitors in that area, not only the leaking. The others will leak soon too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1386894222.688.70.cam

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Doug
On 12/12/2013 05:03 PM, Goren Buckwalk wrote: - Original Message - From: Ralf Mardorf Sent: 12/12/13 04:01 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:45 -0500, Doug wrote: On 12/12/2013 02:11 PM, Goren Buckwalk wr

Re: Jesse install images?

2013-12-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jon wrote: >On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Kailash Kalyani >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The I've found that the netbootcd works best for me... >> http://netbootcd.tuxfamily.org/ >> >> You can choose the distro and the release at install time. >> >> Sincerely, >> Kailash >> > >Hi Kailash, > >I checked

Changing Week start

2013-12-12 Thread Alois Mahdal
Hello, regarding locales and my user account, I have kind of strange taste, but I would like to know if it's possible to achieve this (or at least indicate my preference to applications): * As a language of display (e.g. GUI messages), I want to use English * As date format, I want to us

Re: Jesse install images?

2013-12-12 Thread Jon N
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > Hi, > > The I've found that the netbootcd works best for me... > http://netbootcd.tuxfamily.org/ > > You can choose the distro and the release at install time. > > Sincerely, > Kailash > Hi Kailash, I checked out the netbootcd site, and

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
The photos are not that good but I guess the capacitors are broken, they seem to leak. Are some caps curved? It's unlikely that there would be flux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arc

Re: Having weird seqfaults

2013-12-12 Thread Goren Buckwalk
> - Original Message - > From: Gregory Nowak > Sent: 12/12/13 03:28 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Having weird seqfaults > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 01:21:21PM -0500, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > > I have let it run over night, it is still going, but no errors so far. >

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Goren Buckwalk
> - Original Message - > From: Ralf Mardorf > Sent: 12/12/13 04:01 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors > > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:45 -0500, Doug wrote: > > On 12/12/2013 02:11 PM, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > > A agree regarding to

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Joe
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:11:32 -0500 "Goren Buckwalk" wrote: > > Are three rusty capacitors and 3 bad slots just a coincidence? Thanks. > > The exactly matching numbers is a coincidence, but overall it isn't. Dying capacitors mean that the power rails they are attached to are no longer nice and

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:13:50 + Brian sent: > [When talking about .xsessionrc versus .xsession] > > > I might just revert it back to ~/.xsession and see what error > > messages I receive, if any? > > You won't get any error messages. The system will execute valid > commands in .xessionrc ju

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:23:48 + Brian sent: > Putting commands in .xsessionrc is very naughty. Are you still there, > Charlie? For your own good, please stop doing it. I've renamed the file to ~/.xsession after reading the information Bob kindly supplied and it's all working great, as normal.

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Goren Buckwalk
I draw the line at soldering. I can do legos, insert cards and cables into sockets or slots, and tighten screws into pre-drilled holes, but anything bordering skilled work is beyond me. You should see the case I tried to use a drill to make a window and a hole for a huge exhaust fan. Not pretty.

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for > > Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic > > claims that a dependenc

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:45 -0500, Doug wrote: > On 12/12/2013 02:11 PM, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > > [snip] rusty looking coating on the top. > > > > [snip] > > > > Are three rusty capacitors and 3 bad slots just a coincidence? Thanks. > > > > > As a subscriber to various electronics lists, I can tel

Re: Having weird seqfaults

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 12:28 -0800, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 01:21:21PM -0500, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > > I have let it run over night, it is still going, but no errors so > far. Would memtest restart if it seg faulted midway through? Or just > sit there not doing anything or di

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Doug
On 12/12/2013 02:11 PM, Goren Buckwalk wrote: Having not been warned off, I'll post another. I have a system with two AMD Athlon 2400 MP processors and the motherboard has 4 slots for RAM. It still runes squeeze (too lazy to upgrade, sorry). About a year ago it locked-up and on reboot it beepe

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 > > Kailash Kalyani wrote: > > > > > My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports > > > without breaking a stable in

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 > Kailash Kalyani wrote: > > > My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports > > without breaking a stable install. What am I missing? > > Sure, it is possible. You're just using

Re: Having weird seqfaults

2013-12-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 01:21:21PM -0500, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > I have let it run over night, it is still going, but no errors so far. Would > memtest restart if it seg faulted midway through? Or just sit there not doing > anything or display an error message? As far as I know, memtest will j

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 23:37:31 +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: > I've browsed through the hot debates here > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem > > and the LWN article https://lwn.net/Articles/572805/ > > But there's no mention about when the deadline for the final decision on > future > in

Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-12 Thread Pavel Volkov
I've browsed through the hot debates here https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem and the LWN article https://lwn.net/Articles/572805/ But there's no mention about when the deadline for the final decision on future init system(s) is. I have to prepare my heart for it, does anybody know? --

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 17:47:12 +1100, Charlie wrote: > I'm happy with what happens when I boot my system - same as when I > used .xsessionrc with FVWM. But will look into it and read a bit when > time permits. I could be doing the wrong thing entirely. You are. But you will never know until you e

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Dan Hitt
If you're really feeling ambitious, you can replace the capacitors on the motherboard (or at least in the old days you could). Good luck! dan On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > Having not been warned off, I'll post another. > > I have a system with two AMD Athlon 2400 MP

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 22:18:31 +1100, Charlie wrote: [When talking about .xsessionrc versus .xsession] > I might just revert it back to ~/.xsession and see what error messages > I receive, if any? You won't get any error messages. The system will execute valid commands in .xessionrc just as well

Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Goren Buckwalk
Having not been warned off, I'll post another. I have a system with two AMD Athlon 2400 MP processors and the motherboard has 4 slots for RAM. It still runes squeeze (too lazy to upgrade, sorry). About a year ago it locked-up and on reboot it beeped like crazy before the POST got very far. I st

Re: Installing TrueType Fonts (TTF)

2013-12-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hello Siard, * Siard wrote on 2013-12-12 at 16:48 (+0100): > On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:30:40 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > > To keep things clear I simply don't want to put all these > > files into one single directory, > > Note that ~/fonts would be sufficient here. For > your own convenience yo

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 Kailash Kalyani wrote: > My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports > without breaking a stable install. What am I missing? Sure, it is possible. You're just using wrong tool for the task. Try: apt-get install -t wheezy-backpor

Re: Jesse install images?

2013-12-12 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Thursday 12 December 2013 07:29 AM, Shane Johnson wrote: Sorry I also should have stated that you can use either a Live CD or a Rescue CD. Shane On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Shane Johnson mailto:s...@rasmussenequipment.com>> wrote: Nope, It's a little more difficult, but you can do

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 19:06:41 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I have been trying to get a setup that works properly with startx, as > well as with kdm. Do you have a recommendation as to how best to Your original query concerned startx only. You have now escalated the problem to include kdm :).

Re: Having weird seqfaults

2013-12-12 Thread Goren Buckwalk
> >> Just re-seating your RAM can sometimes fix RAM problem. > > > > I pushed on everything before I connected it up to do the reinstall. > > Re-seating means pulling it out, and putting it back in. Same with CPU. That's a good point, i only made sure everything was tight. > > It mostly seems

Re: sound problems after upgrade

2013-12-12 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Thursday 12 December 2013 09:12 PM, Christopher Judd wrote: Hi, I have a testing box, kernel 3.2.0-3-amd64, using KDE. After an upgrade earlier this week, I am having problems with sound. The system is an MSI 760GM-P23 motherboard with onboard RealTek ALC887, and sound has always worked fine

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Brian
May we look a little closer at one or two of the things you say? On Wed 11 Dec 2013 at 23:36:51 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Because startx does not use .xsession. You have things criss-crossed. 1. Running startx basically runs xinit. 2. startx first looks for ~/.xinitrc which, unless there is a

Re: udev rule for a kindle

2013-12-12 Thread Sharon Kimble
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 02:02:06 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/12/13 01:30, Sharon Kimble wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:43:32 +1100 > > Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > >> On 12/12/13 01:01, Sharon Kimble wrote: > >>> > >>> I have a script for backing up my kindle when its first mounted, > >>>

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-12 Thread David Guntner
Jean-Marc grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:11:58 -0800 > David Guntner wrote: >> >> Really? As I understand it, a 32-bit operating system cannot address >> more than 4G of memory. >> >> What am I missing here? > > Some more infos about PAE (Physical Address Extension): > ht

Re: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 22:14 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > 'sudo sh' is as easy on finger (no shift) and do not feel as bad. Doesn't it have any side-effects? I wonder about the prompt of an Arch Linux install. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Aug 25 14:06 /bin/sh

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-12 Thread David Guntner
PaulNM grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > On 12/12/2013 02:11 AM, David Guntner wrote: >> Scott Ferguson grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >>> On 12/12/13 17:42, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: Dear List - I am running 32 bit sid with a pae kernel. What is the maximum RAM that

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 17:23:31 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > What seemed like a good idea, at, the, time ... is longer looking so > good. Any ideas why this odd behaviour would appear as it does? You could try following the advice given in /usr/share/doc/xfce4-session/README.Debian Selecti

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-12 Thread Doug
On 12/12/2013 03:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:49 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 12/12/13 18:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Ethan, still HTML, really ;)? On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 01:42 -0500, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: Are there any command line statement(s) that will

Re: Using an AOS 1600x900 monitor with Wheezy

2013-12-12 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:03:13AM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: > I am in the process of assembling a new box in which Wheezy will be > installed. The CPU I am planning to use is based on the Intel i5-4670 > which has integrated in it the Intel HD4600 GPU. The mainboard I want to > use is a Gigabyte G

Re: Installing TrueType Fonts (TTF)

2013-12-12 Thread Siard
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:30:40 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote: > My ~/.fonts.conf lists several directories: > > snip > > > > ~/.fonts > ~/fonts/sourcecodepro > ~/fonts/sourcesanspro > > > snip > > Each font fa

sound problems after upgrade

2013-12-12 Thread Christopher Judd
Hi, I have a testing box, kernel 3.2.0-3-amd64, using KDE. After an upgrade earlier this week, I am having problems with sound. The system is an MSI 760GM-P23 motherboard with onboard RealTek ALC887, and sound has always worked fine previously. The problem is that there is no

Re: Debian Wheezy Compromised - www-data user is sending 1000 emails an hour

2013-12-12 Thread Stephen Allen
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:12:57AM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 08:57:57PM -0600, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: > > >I run my own site, and I do have postfix, apache, wordpress, > >and moinmoin installed. www-data is sending 100s of emails a > >minute. > > I hope

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:21:34 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 19:17 +0400, Reco wrote: > > Still, if one has desire to blow legs off: > > :D > > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y ; poweroff" > > but I would recommend > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get

Re: XFCE4 DateTime applet - custom timezone

2013-12-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2013 12 Dec 03:05 -0600, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I would like a second copy of DateTime in my panel, with a custom > timezone - UTC for now. > > Is this possible with xfce4-panel ? I just added the Orage Clock Applet to my panel and can select the timezone and configure it to display the ti

Re: VirtualBox kernel mod compile fails

2013-12-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 11 December 2013 21:53:18 Kent West wrote: > On 12/11/2013 03:47 PM, Kent West wrote: > > Looks like there may be a bug, as suggested by Ralf's first link: > >> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=53126 > > > > I'll try Ralf's solution: > >> Likely a Debian related issue.

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 16:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 19:17 +0400, Reco wrote: > > Still, if one has desire to blow legs off: > > :D > > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y ; poweroff" > > but I would recommend > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get di

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 19:17 +0400, Reco wrote: > Still, if one has desire to blow legs off: :D > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y ; poweroff" but I would recommend sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y ; poweroff" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: udev rule for a kindle

2013-12-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/12/13 01:30, Sharon Kimble wrote: > On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:43:32 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 12/12/13 01:01, Sharon Kimble wrote: >>> >>> I have a script for backing up my kindle when its first mounted, >>> but its not running on mounting, but *does* run when invoked >>> manually!

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:10:44 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:57 +0400, Reco wrote: > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && poweroff" > > > > That's more like it. Depending on a hardware, 'shutdown -h now' can > > leave the power on. > > :D We are close to so

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 16:10 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y ; poweroff" sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run ; apt-get dist-upgrade -y ; poweroff" -y without a dry run :S, OTOH, the OP want's to go to sleep, so the dry-run

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:57 +0400, Reco wrote: > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && poweroff" > > That's more like it. Depending on a hardware, 'shutdown -h now' can > leave the power on. :D We are close to solve it :D. && apt-get upgrade -y && poweroff ^^^

Re: XFCE4 DateTime applet - custom timezone

2013-12-12 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Thursday 12 December 2013 02:34 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I would like a second copy of DateTime in my panel, with a custom timezone - UTC for now. Is this possible with xfce4-panel ? Seen this? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/23218/how-to-add-a-custom-timezone-clock-to-an-xfce-pa

Re: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 22:14:50 +0900 Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sun, Dec 08, 2013 at 09:09:53PM -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: > > On Sunday, December 08, 2013 07:27:41 PM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Du, 08 dec 13, 19:14:49, Neal Murphy wrote: > > > > For me, I usually set up 'sudo su' > > > > > > sudo

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:58:35 +0100 "Gian Uberto Lauri" wrote: > Osamu Aoki writes: > > But I want one line solution :-) > > > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; shutdown -h now" > > But there is the case where apt-get want a reply for the user and that > is 'N' :) !! Ba

Re: nautilus -> spacefm

2013-12-12 Thread Kailash Kalyani
I'm using 'nemo' now, and things like my kindle appear when plugged in but need to be manually mounted, but I can live with that. Have you looked at udisks-glue? udisks-glue is useful for automatically mounting removable devices or running arbitrary commands. Sincerely, Kailash -- To UNSUB

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Ralf Mardorf writes: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:33 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > Sorry, it may ask if it has to preserve or not a configuration file > > modified locally when a new version arrives with the package. > > Good point, I don't use apt that often, because my "main" distro isn

Re: udev rule for a kindle

2013-12-12 Thread Sharon Kimble
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:43:32 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 12/12/13 01:01, Sharon Kimble wrote: > > > > I have a script for backing up my kindle when its first mounted, > > but its not running on mounting, but *does* run when invoked > > manually! When the kindle is mounted it should trigger

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:33 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Sorry, it may ask if it has to preserve or not a configuration file > modified locally when a new version arrives with the package. Good point, I don't use apt that often, because my "main" distro isn't Debian. I guess there's an option

Re: How to install Packages on Debian-Wheezy

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 01:29 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/12/13 00:59, Wally Lepore wrote: > > http://www.aboutdebian.com/packages.htm > > Wow! What a... site :/ For newbies it's hard to search for information about Linux, because they don't know the terms, as long as they don't know the s

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Ralf Mardorf writes: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 14:58 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > Osamu Aoki writes: > > > But I want one line solution :-) > > > > > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; shutdown -h now" > > > > But there is the case where apt-get want a reply for the

Re: How to install Packages on Debian-Wheezy

2013-12-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/12/13 00:59, Wally Lepore wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Recently completed a successful install of Wheezy in Virtual Box. Runs > great but slow (for obvious reasons). I'm not looking for > speed/performance at this point but just looking to learn the > interface, access and perform functions in ter

Re: How to install Packages on Debian-Wheezy

2013-12-12 Thread Ron Leach
On 12/12/2013 13:59, Wally Lepore wrote: I would like to locate a link that explains in simple terms (if that's possible), "How to Install Packages". I've been hours reading about this topic via many links but find them helpful to some extent but too advanced. I'm searching for a complete be

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 14:58 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Osamu Aoki writes: > > But I want one line solution :-) > > > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; shutdown -h now" > > But there is the case where apt-get want a reply for the user and that > is 'N' :) !! Baka!!! :) a

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 00:21:18 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > The man page for Xsession documents ~/.xsessionrc and ~/.xsession. It > says that ~/.xsessionrc is only for setting variables and the > ~/.xsession is for executing commands. (But in reality this is a grey > area.) Let's attempt to get a

How to install Packages on Debian-Wheezy

2013-12-12 Thread Wally Lepore
Hi Folks, Recently completed a successful install of Wheezy in Virtual Box. Runs great but slow (for obvious reasons). I'm not looking for speed/performance at this point but just looking to learn the interface, access and perform functions in terminal (as well as root terminal) and run basic prog

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Osamu Aoki writes: > But I want one line solution :-) > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; shutdown -h now" But there is the case where apt-get want a reply for the user and that is 'N' :) !! Baka!!! :) -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient /_

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:38:45PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > One way would be to use a script that runs e.g. apt-get and then the > shutdown command. > > #!/bin/sh > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade > shutdown -h now # or poweroff or halt > > >> If you want it shut down regardless of the

Re: Installing TrueType Fonts (TTF)

2013-12-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 07:53:20PM +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > Hi, > I was a GNOME user and recently I switched to XFCE in Debian to see > how things works here after reading that XFCE would be the default > DE in the upcoming Debian Jessie. BTW, TrueType Fonts (TTF) would > open in GNOM

Re: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Dec 08, 2013 at 09:09:53PM -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Sunday, December 08, 2013 07:27:41 PM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 08 dec 13, 19:14:49, Neal Murphy wrote: > > > For me, I usually set up 'sudo su' > > > > sudo has the '-s' and '-i' switches, why mix with 'su'? > > > > Kind re

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 12/12/13 11:43, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Iain M Conochie writes: > > I got it about 20 years ago. Is it enough? > Mayeb - just maybe ;) Indeed, never be sure! :) > > You say it. It is not bullet proof. The bullet has already pierced the > > target once. Therefore it may happen again

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 12/12/2013 2:42 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Perhaps because 64-bit gives their use case brings disadvantage but no > advantages? Perhaps for other reasons. To assume that you *should* use > 64-bit in all cases is incorrect. There are old 32 bit PAE only machines around with plenty of capabilit

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Iain M Conochie writes: > > I got it about 20 years ago. Is it enough? > Mayeb - just maybe ;) Indeed, never be sure! :) > > You say it. It is not bullet proof. The bullet has already pierced the > > target once. Therefore it may happen again. > May - but not assured. Indeed. You usually p

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-12 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:28:54 -0700 Bob Proulx sent: > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc > Source global environment variables. This script > will source anything in $HOME/.xsessionrc if the file is > present. This allows the user to set global environment variable

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