Re: Wheezy/Gnome 3: le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier

2014-10-29 Thread Olivier
En débranchant le câble USB qui transmet à l'UC les actions sur
l'écran tactile, le pb semble disparaître.

Ca reste à confirmer et ne me dit pas comment résoudre ce pb sur le
fond, mais c'est une piste.
À suivre

Le 29 octobre 2014 01:02, Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit :
 Le Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:45:45 +0100,
 Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit :


 Le Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:13:52 +0100,
 Olivier oza.4...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Un truc que je n'ai pas précisé est que mon écran est tactile.

 N'ayant pas les moyens pour ce genre de jouet, je ne vais pas t'aider
 sur ce coup. Ça peut effectivement avoir un rapport.

 J'ai un souvenir d'avoir cherché quelques minutes pourquoi mon curseur
 vibrait sur place et faisait n'importe quoi avant de comprendre qu'il
 ne fallait pas que je pose mon stylet sur la tablette graphique...

 Bonne recherche.


 En y réfléchissant et à propos de tablette graphique, il n'y aurait pas
 une fonction de calibrage susceptible de se déclencher
 intempestivement sur ton écran (sur un événement acpi par exemple ) ?
 En sortie de mise en veille d'écran ça pourrait être un fonctionnement
 normal par exemple. Je n'y connais rien en écran tactile, ce n'est
 qu'une hypothèse.

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systemd et clamd

2014-10-29 Thread BERTRAND Joël

Bonjour à tous,

	Encore un truc pas net avec clamd... Je viens de m'apercevoir que mon 
daemon clamd ne fonctionne plus avec sendmail et j'avoue ne pas comprendre.


	Lorsque je lance à la main clamd, ça fonctionne parfaitement et la 
socket pour le milter de sendmail est créée :


Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Received 0 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu, 
ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)

Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
Wed Oct 29 09:35:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Unix socket file 
/var/run/clamav/clamd.sock

Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 15

	Lorsque je lance le même daemon avec avec systemd, cette socket n'est 
pas créée :


Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Received 1 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu, 
ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)

Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - TCP: No tcp AF_INET SOCK_STREAM socket 
received from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - LOCAL: Received AF_UNIX SOCK_STREAM socket 
from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600 
bytes.

Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Recursion level limit set to 10.

	Naturellement, dans les deux cas, le fichier de configuration est censé 
être /etc/clamav/clamd.conf (d'un côté, c'est le chemin par défaut et 
d'un autre, il est spécifié dans le fichier init.d).


Une idée ?

Cordialement,

JKB

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Re: systemd et clamd

2014-10-29 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le mercredi 29 octobre 2014, 09:40:44 BERTRAND Joël a écrit :
   Bonjour à tous,
 
   Encore un truc pas net avec clamd... Je viens de m'apercevoir que mon
 daemon clamd ne fonctionne plus avec sendmail et j'avoue ne pas comprendre.
 
   Lorsque je lance à la main clamd, ça fonctionne parfaitement et la
 socket pour le milter de sendmail est créée :
 
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Received 0 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu,
 ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
 Wed Oct 29 09:35:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
 Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Unix socket file
 /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock
 Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 15
 
   Lorsque je lance le même daemon avec avec systemd, cette socket n'est
 pas créée :
 
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Received 1 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu,
 ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - TCP: No tcp AF_INET SOCK_STREAM socket
 received from systemd.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - LOCAL: Received AF_UNIX SOCK_STREAM socket
 from systemd.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600
 bytes.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes.
 Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Recursion level limit set to 10.
 
   Naturellement, dans les deux cas, le fichier de configuration est censé
 être /etc/clamav/clamd.conf (d'un côté, c'est le chemin par défaut et
 d'un autre, il est spécifié dans le fichier init.d).
 
   Une idée ?
 
   Cordialement,
 
   JKB
Je n'ai pas d'idée sur on problème, mais une suggestion :
essaye de lancer la commande : systemctl
puis regarde les services lancés et sélectionne celui qui se rapporte à 
clamd
puis fait : systemctl status le service en question
il te donnera certainement des infos sur la façon dont est lancé  ou pas 
clamd
Pour ma part sur mon poste je n'ai que le service  clamav-freshclam lancé.

En espérant que cela t'aidera.
Philippe Merlin

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Re: systemd et clamd

2014-10-29 Thread BERTRAND Joël

MERLIN Philippe a écrit :

Le mercredi 29 octobre 2014, 09:40:44 BERTRAND Joël a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Encore un truc pas net avec clamd... Je viens de m'apercevoir que mon
daemon clamd ne fonctionne plus avec sendmail et j'avoue ne pas comprendre.

Lorsque je lance à la main clamd, ça fonctionne parfaitement et la
socket pour le milter de sendmail est créée :

Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Received 0 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu,
ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
Wed Oct 29 09:35:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Unix socket file
/var/run/clamav/clamd.sock
Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 15

Lorsque je lance le même daemon avec avec systemd, cette socket n'est
pas créée :

Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Received 1 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu,
ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - TCP: No tcp AF_INET SOCK_STREAM socket
received from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - LOCAL: Received AF_UNIX SOCK_STREAM socket
from systemd.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600
bytes.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes.
Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Recursion level limit set to 10.

Naturellement, dans les deux cas, le fichier de configuration est censé
être /etc/clamav/clamd.conf (d'un côté, c'est le chemin par défaut et
d'un autre, il est spécifié dans le fichier init.d).

Une idée ?

Cordialement,

JKB

Je n'ai pas d'idée sur on problème, mais une suggestion :
essaye de lancer la commande : systemctl
puis regarde les services lancés et sélectionne celui qui se rapporte à
clamd
puis fait : systemctl status le service en question
il te donnera certainement des infos sur la façon dont est lancé  ou pas
clamd


La seule information que j'aie est celle-ci :

  clamav-daemon.service
loaded active running   Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon

	J'ai aussi ceci :Root rayleigh:[/var/run/clamav]  
/etc/init.d/clamav-daemon status

● clamav-daemon.service - Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since mer. 2014-10-29 11:56:40 CET; 1min 
48s ago

 Docs: man:clamd(8)
   man:clamd.conf(5)
   http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/doc/
 Main PID: 16367 (clamd)
   CGroup: /system.slice/clamav-daemon.service
   └─16367 /usr/sbin/clamd --foreground=true

oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: ELF support enabled.
oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Detection of broken executables 
enabled.

oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Mail files support enabled.
oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: OLE2 support enabled.
oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: PDF support enabled.
oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: SWF support enabled.
oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: HTML support enabled.
oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Phishing: Always checking for 
cloake...s
oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Phishing: Always checking for 
ssl mi...s

oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Self checking every 3600 seconds.
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.

Mais ça n'éclaire pas vraiment ma lanterne.

En revanche :

Root rayleigh:[/var/run/clamav]  systemctl status clamav-daemon.socket
● clamav-daemon.socket - Socket for Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.socket; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since mer. 2014-10-29 08:26:40 CET; 3h 
34min ago

 Docs: man:clamd(8)
   man:clamd.conf(5)
   http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/doc/
   Listen: /run/clamav/clamd.ctl (Stream)

	La question est maintenant de savoir pourquoi systemd outrepasse la 
configuration de /etc/clamav/clamd.conf.


Cordialement,

JKB

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Re: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-29 Thread maderios

On 10/27/2014 10:44 PM, François Boisson wrote:



http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.16.5-1_changelog


il y a les modifications upstream puis les modfications Debian.


Merci. On peut tout de même dire que cette façon de présenter tout en
vrac (c'est d'ailleurs général chez Debian) engendre de la confusion.
Je pense vraiment que Debian n'a pas envie de communiquer, sauf avec les
initiés. Tant pis pour les utilisateurs...



Ce document est le changelog du noyau, Debian ne rajoute ces modifications
qu'à la fin. Je pense que les patches debian se trouvent dans les sources des
paquets du noyau (pas le linux-source, mais les paquets de deb-src). Par
exemple, tu prends le fichier
linux_3.2.63-2.debian.tar.xz
Tu le déplies et va dans deboan/patches
Tu lis bugfix/x86/net-wireless-ipw2200-Fix-WARN_ON-occurring-in-wiphy_.patch
et tu as les commentaires précis
Bien  sûr mais c'est dommage de devoir installer un paquet source de 83 
MB dans le seul but de lire quelques lignes


«The problem was found by Larry Finger:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-wirelessm=133702401700614w=2

The problem is identical to the one for ipw2200 which is already fixed:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-wirelessm=133457257407196w=2
[description du problème, etc]»

Tu as également les rajouts (par exemple
features/x86/x86-Add-amilo-rfkill-driver-for-some-Fujitsu-Siemens.patch
ou encore bien sûr et surtout :features/all/aufs3/ qui rajoute aufs (qui n'est
pas dans le noyau de kernel.org).

Bref, je trouve ça très détaillé et ordonné. Le changelog n'est là que pour
faire une recherche par mot clef pour savoir si une modification a été fait ou
un bug précis corrigé, par pour expliquer les modifs.


Les changelogs de kernel.org sont en ligne, bien faits et clairs.
Debian devrait donner la possibilité de lire en ligne ou avec Apt les 
changelogs séparément mais bon, c'est à l'utilisateur de s'adapter ...



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Re: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-29 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le mercredi 29 octobre 2014, 15:00:56 maderios a écrit :
 Debian devrait donner la possibilité de lire en ligne

  Depuis https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-source-3.16 ¹ :
http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.16.5-1_changelog

¹ auquel on peut arriver par :
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-source-3.16
(ou deb:linux-3.16 dans Konqueror)

 ou avec Apt les changelogs séparément

  aptitude changelog linux-source-3.16

 mais bon, c'est à l'utilisateur de s'adapter ...

  Ouais, l’utilisateur, il doit savoir chercher sur le web ou 
RTFM. Quelle plaie !

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Re: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-29 Thread François Boisson
Le Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:00:56 +0100
maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit:

 Bien  sûr mais c'est dommage de devoir installer un paquet source de 83 
 MB dans le seul but de lire quelques lignes
 


Tu peux ne charger que le fichier contenant les patch (le debian.tar.xz) si tu
veux. Les patchs sont classés. Va voir, c'est plutôt bien fait je trouve.

François Boisson

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Re: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-29 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour,

Le mercredi 29 octobre 2014 à 15:09, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
 ¹ auquel on peut arriver par :
 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-source-3.16
 (ou deb:linux-3.16 dans Konqueror)

Ou « !dpkg linux-source-3.16 » dans DuckDuckGo !

Seb

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Re: systemd et clamd

2014-10-29 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le mercredi 29 octobre 2014, 12:03:17 BERTRAND Joël a écrit :
 MERLIN Philippe a écrit :
  Le mercredi 29 octobre 2014, 09:40:44 BERTRAND Joël a écrit :
 Bonjour à tous,
 
 Encore un truc pas net avec clamd... Je viens de m'apercevoir que mon
  
  daemon clamd ne fonctionne plus avec sendmail et j'avoue ne pas
  comprendre.
  
 Lorsque je lance à la main clamd, ça fonctionne parfaitement et la
  
  socket pour le milter de sendmail est créée :
  
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Received 0 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu,
  ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:58 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
  Wed Oct 29 09:35:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
  Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Unix socket file
  /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock
  Wed Oct 29 09:35:06 2014 - LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 15
  
 Lorsque je lance le même daemon avec avec systemd, cette socket n'est
  
  pas créée :
  
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - +++ Started at Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Received 1 file descriptor(s) from systemd.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - clamd daemon 0.98.5-rc1 (OS: linux-gnu,
  ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Running as user clamav (UID 109, GID 115)
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Log file size limited to 4294967295bytes.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:00 2014 - Bytecode: Security mode set to TrustSigned.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:05 2014 - Loaded 3661002 signatures.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - TCP: No tcp AF_INET SOCK_STREAM socket
  received from systemd.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - LOCAL: Received AF_UNIX SOCK_STREAM socket
  from systemd.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600
  bytes.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: File size limit set to 26214400
  bytes.
  Wed Oct 29 09:34:07 2014 - Limits: Recursion level limit set to 10.
  
 Naturellement, dans les deux cas, le fichier de configuration est censé
  
  être /etc/clamav/clamd.conf (d'un côté, c'est le chemin par défaut et
  d'un autre, il est spécifié dans le fichier init.d).
  
 Une idée ?
 
 Cordialement,
 
 JKB
  
  Je n'ai pas d'idée sur on problème, mais une suggestion :
  essaye de lancer la commande : systemctl
  puis regarde les services lancés et sélectionne celui qui se rapporte à
  clamd
  puis fait : systemctl status le service en question
  il te donnera certainement des infos sur la façon dont est lancé  ou pas
  clamd
 
   La seule information que j'aie est celle-ci :
 
clamav-daemon.service
 loaded active running   Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
 
   J'ai aussi ceci :Root rayleigh:[/var/run/clamav] 
 /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon status
 ● clamav-daemon.service - Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled)
 Active: active (running) since mer. 2014-10-29 11:56:40 CET; 1min
 48s ago
   Docs: man:clamd(8)
 man:clamd.conf(5)
 http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/doc/
   Main PID: 16367 (clamd)
 CGroup: /system.slice/clamav-daemon.service
 └─16367 /usr/sbin/clamd --foreground=true
 
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: ELF support enabled.
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Detection of broken executables
 enabled.
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Mail files support enabled.
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: OLE2 support enabled.
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: PDF support enabled.
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: SWF support enabled.
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: HTML support enabled.
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Phishing: Always checking for
 cloake...s
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Phishing: Always checking for
 ssl mi...s
 oct. 29 11:56:47 rayleigh clamd[16367]: Self checking every 3600 seconds.
 Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
 
   Mais ça n'éclaire pas vraiment ma lanterne.
 
   En revanche :
 
 Root rayleigh:[/var/run/clamav]  systemctl status clamav-daemon.socket
 ● clamav-daemon.socket - Socket for Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.socket; enabled)
 Active: active (running) since mer. 2014-10-29 08:26:40 CET; 3h
 34min ago
   Docs: man:clamd(8)
 man:clamd.conf(5)
 http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/doc/
 Listen: /run/clamav/clamd.ctl (Stream)
 
   La question est maintenant de savoir pourquoi systemd outrepasse la
 configuration de /etc/clamav/clamd.conf.
 
   Cordialement,
 
 

Re: Wheezy/Gnome 3: le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier

2014-10-29 Thread Haricophile
Le Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:05:32 +0100,
Olivier oza.4...@gmail.com a écrit :

 En débranchant le câble USB qui transmet à l'UC les actions sur
 l'écran tactile, le pb semble disparaître.
 
 Ca reste à confirmer et ne me dit pas comment résoudre ce pb sur le
 fond, mais c'est une piste.
 À suivre

Ça pourrait donc être quelque chose du genre de ce que je disais. Je ne
connais pas le fonctionnement de ces jouets, mais il y a
peut-être une nécessité de calibrage ou de rafraîchissement de temps à
autre pour conserver un fonctionnement optimum. Ça serait logique que
ce soit planifié après un certain délai d'inutilisation.

Il faudrait trouver une doc technique. Ceci dit je ne vois pas en quoi
ça serait gênant, sinon pour la curiosité naturelle.

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Re: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-29 Thread maderios

On 10/29/2014 03:11 PM, François Boisson wrote:

Le Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:00:56 +0100
maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit:


Bien  sûr mais c'est dommage de devoir installer un paquet source de 83
MB dans le seul but de lire quelques lignes



Tu peux ne charger que le fichier contenant les patch (le debian.tar.xz) si tu
veux. Les patchs sont classés. Va voir, c'est plutôt bien fait je trouve.


OK, merci pour toutes ces info

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Re: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-29 Thread maderios

On 10/29/2014 03:09 PM, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

Le mercredi 29 octobre 2014, 15:00:56 maderios a écrit :

Debian devrait donner la possibilité de lire en ligne


   Depuis https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-source-3.16 ¹ :
http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.16.5-1_changelog

¹ auquel on peut arriver par :
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-source-3.16
(ou deb:linux-3.16 dans Konqueror)


ou avec Apt les changelogs séparément


   aptitude changelog linux-source-3.16


mais bon, c'est à l'utilisateur de s'adapter ...


   Ouais, l’utilisateur, il doit savoir chercher sur le web ou
RTFM. Quelle plaie !


Merci infiniment.
Avec tout ce qui a été dit dans ce fil, il y a maintenant de quoi écrire 
un vrai FM...  :-)  :-)

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Re: OT: Navegador web

2014-10-29 Thread unciegobailando

El 28/10/14 a las 04:59, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena escibió:

Con fecha Domingo, 26 de Octubre de 2014, 09:43:29 a.m., Octavio
Ávalos escribió:

Tan solo una pequeña cuestión, queria saber que navegador os parece a
vosotros que obtiene mejor rendimiento.


Yo uso Firefox/iceweasel como principal navegador. Funciona bien en
todas las PC.
Como segunda opción tengo al Midori que trabaja bien aunque es medio
viejo... pero muy seguro.
El Chrome NO LO USO por una cuestión de antipatía :-( (Te saca datos,
te trackea, no le tengo ninguna confianza)



Que casualidad, justo en estas ultimas dos semanas se me dio por andar 
probando navegadores... porque se necesitan unos dias y varias webs para 
formar una buena opinion del navegador.
 Mi vision es muy similar a la tuya, mi guerrero para la web es 
firefox, y su suplente debe ser si o si alguno con motot webkit, ya que 
algunas cosas en la web o mismo facebook no funcionan bien con gecko. 
Asi use chromiun, pero me molestaba en sobremanera que sea tan comilon 
de ram (tengo solo 2 gb) y lo descarte por midori que tambien usa webkit.
 Te comento que en los repositorios de debian no esta mantenido midori 
 o de estarlo no lo esta muy bien. La ultima version es la 5 y picos, y 
te podes descargar el .deb del sitio oficial de midori. Despues de 
instalar el binario haces un aptitude install -f y asi instalas las 
dependencias imcumplidas. Es mucho mejor la ultima version!!
 Sabemos que midori es algo mas rapido que papa firefox pero tambien 
adolece de muchos addons y accesos directos... 2da opcion.
 Tambien use qupzilla como segundo durante un tiempo pero tiraba algun 
que otro error, asi que lo abandone.
 Ahora, si de vez en cuando te gusta navegar y solo leer texto en html 
y discretos css instalate dillo. No admite javascript y esta pensado 
para navegar con baja transferencia de datos y en pentium 1 o menor.


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OpenStack - Qué es???

2014-10-29 Thread Mauro Antivero
Estimados, estuve dando vueltas un buen rato por la red para tratar de 
entender que es y para que sirve OpenStack. La duda que me surge es cual 
sería la diferencia en si entre tener una nube privada y en ella 
virtualizar servidores contra tener un hardware dedicado con VirtualBox, 
KVM, etc. y virtualizar sobre este?


Serán acaso las herramientas que ofrece OpenStack para crear máquinas 
virtuales?


Les agradecería mucho su ayuda para entender esto ya que en muchas 
páginas webs no explican esto que para mi es fundamental como para 
empezar a entender el asunto.


Saludos y muchas gracias.

Mauro.


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Re: OpenStack - Qué es???

2014-10-29 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El 29 de octubre de 2014, 12:32, Mauro Antivero mauro.antiv...@gmail.com
escribió:

 Estimados, estuve dando vueltas un buen rato por la red para tratar de
 entender que es y para que sirve OpenStack. La duda que me surge es cual
 sería la diferencia en si entre tener una nube privada y en ella
 virtualizar servidores contra tener un hardware dedicado con VirtualBox,
 KVM, etc. y virtualizar sobre este?

 Serán acaso las herramientas que ofrece OpenStack para crear máquinas
 virtuales?

 Les agradecería mucho su ayuda para entender esto ya que en muchas páginas
 webs no explican esto que para mi es fundamental como para empezar a
 entender el asunto.

 Saludos y muchas gracias.

 Mauro.


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para hacertela rapida y simple es un cluster que sobre ella corre maquinas
virtuales
solo sirve cuando tenes varias maquinas haciendo lo mismo
digamos que un minimo de 6 igual se puede con menos

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Re: OpenStack - Qué es???

2014-10-29 Thread Antonio Insuasti Recalde
Para enterder mejor imagina esto:

Las maquinas virtuales en KVM VirtualBox Vmware RHEV etc. son máquinas
que tu cuidas que tienen una aplicacion y funciona bien,
ahora que pasa si de una maquina en especifico en un momento necesitas
crear 10 o mas servidores Ejemplo: El sistema de registro de
estudiantes universitarios, cada 6 meses que son las inscripciones
tienes que clusterizarlo y de una maquina pasa a ser 10 para soportar
la cantidad, no solo eso necesitas que la base de datos pase de 1
servidor a 6 servidores, entonces es ahi donde entra openStack, te
crea las maquinas a necesidad.

haciendo una analogia las maquinas de VirtualBox/KVM son tus mascotas
que quieres, amas y las de OpenStack es el ganado que si quires matas
y solo mantienes para que den leche o carne.

Saludos.


El día 29 de octubre de 2014, 10:37, Cristian Mitchell
mitchell6...@gmail.com escribió:


 El 29 de octubre de 2014, 12:32, Mauro Antivero mauro.antiv...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Estimados, estuve dando vueltas un buen rato por la red para tratar de
 entender que es y para que sirve OpenStack. La duda que me surge es cual
 sería la diferencia en si entre tener una nube privada y en ella virtualizar
 servidores contra tener un hardware dedicado con VirtualBox, KVM, etc. y
 virtualizar sobre este?

 Serán acaso las herramientas que ofrece OpenStack para crear máquinas
 virtuales?

 Les agradecería mucho su ayuda para entender esto ya que en muchas páginas
 webs no explican esto que para mi es fundamental como para empezar a
 entender el asunto.

 Saludos y muchas gracias.

 Mauro.


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 virtuales
 solo sirve cuando tenes varias maquinas haciendo lo mismo
 digamos que un minimo de 6 igual se puede con menos

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Re: OpenStack - Qué es???

2014-10-29 Thread Antonio Insuasti Recalde
Sorry por el top posting anterior


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[OT] Re: OpenStack - Qué es???

2014-10-29 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:32:48 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 Estimados, estuve dando vueltas un buen rato por la red para tratar de
 entender que es y para que sirve OpenStack. 

Es una plataforma (conjunto de herramientas) que permiten gestionar los 
servicios de los servidores de manera unificada.

 La duda que me surge es cual sería la diferencia en si entre tener una
 nube privada y en ella virtualizar servidores contra tener un hardware
 dedicado con VirtualBox, KVM, etc. y virtualizar sobre este?

La diferencia entre OpenStack y un sistema virtualizado es que en 
OpenStack la virtualización es opcional, es decir, trabaja sobre hierros, 
no hay una segunda capa de software ni emulación/virtualziación.

Virtualizar OpenStack podría tener su gracia pero me parece excesivo.

 Serán acaso las herramientas que ofrece OpenStack para crear máquinas
 virtuales?

(...)

Tal y como lo entiendo, no es una herramienta de virtualización 
(hardware) sino de gestión (servicios).

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Re: [OT] Re: OpenStack - Qué es???

2014-10-29 Thread juanlu
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:09:27 + (UTC), Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
wrote:
 El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:32:48 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:
 
 Estimados, estuve dando vueltas un buen rato por la red para tratar de
 entender que es y para que sirve OpenStack. 
 
 Es una plataforma (conjunto de herramientas) que permiten gestionar los 
 servicios de los servidores de manera unificada.
 
 La duda que me surge es cual sería la diferencia en si entre tener una
 nube privada y en ella virtualizar servidores contra tener un hardware
 dedicado con VirtualBox, KVM, etc. y virtualizar sobre este?
 
 La diferencia entre OpenStack y un sistema virtualizado es que en 
 OpenStack la virtualización es opcional, es decir, trabaja sobre
hierros, 
 no hay una segunda capa de software ni emulación/virtualziación.

Esto no me acaba de quedar claro. Sin ser experto, había entendido que
OpenStack es una capa de servicios que te facilitan gestionar máquinas
virtuales: crearlas, gestionarlas, migrarlas, todo ellos sobre una
infraestructura compuesta de varias máquinas físicas que son las que se
encargan de ejecutar los hipervisores (KVM, Xen, la tecnología de
virtualización que quieras) y demás servicios (almacenamiento, por
ejemplo). Siempre lo he entendido como una capa que pones por encima de la
virtualización para no tener que hacer toda la gestión de las máquinas
virtuales manualmente, sino poder delegar y automatizar cosas como la
creación de 10 instancias como se comentaba en uno de los anteriores
mensajes. Si no me equivoco mucho, OpenNebula está en la misma liga.

 
 Virtualizar OpenStack podría tener su gracia pero me parece excesivo.
 
 Serán acaso las herramientas que ofrece OpenStack para crear máquinas
 virtuales?
 
 (...)
 
 Tal y como lo entiendo, no es una herramienta de virtualización 
 (hardware) sino de gestión (servicios).
Esto sí me queda más claro y creo que estamos de acuerdo
 
 Saludos,
 
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Re: [OT] Re: OpenStack - Qué es???

2014-10-29 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:29:14 +0100, juanlu escribió:

 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:09:27 + (UTC), Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:32:48 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:
 
 Estimados, estuve dando vueltas un buen rato por la red para tratar de
 entender que es y para que sirve OpenStack.
 
 Es una plataforma (conjunto de herramientas) que permiten gestionar los
 servicios de los servidores de manera unificada.
 
 La duda que me surge es cual sería la diferencia en si entre tener una
 nube privada y en ella virtualizar servidores contra tener un hardware
 dedicado con VirtualBox, KVM, etc. y virtualizar sobre este?
 
 La diferencia entre OpenStack y un sistema virtualizado es que en
 OpenStack la virtualización es opcional, es decir, trabaja sobre
 hierros,
 no hay una segunda capa de software ni emulación/virtualziación.
 
 Esto no me acaba de quedar claro. Sin ser experto, había entendido que
 OpenStack es una capa de servicios que te facilitan gestionar máquinas
 virtuales: 

(...)

¿Tienes alguna referencia? Yo creo que no sirve para eso. Por poner un 
ejemplo y a modo de comparativa, sería más parecido a hearbeat/
pacemaker (servicio de monitorización de clústers en HA).

Cosa distinta es que alguno de los nodos o equipos gestionados por 
OpenStack sean máquinas virtuales pero las VM se crean/gestionan aparte, 
con sus herramientas correspondientes (VMwares, KVMs, Xenes, 
contenedores, etc...).

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Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-10-29 Thread Maykel Franco
Buenas tardes, me preguntaba si existe alguna forma de monitorizar las
visitas, el trafico y estadísticas ya no solo por vhost de apache, que se
puede, sino por url ...

Conozco awstats y webalizer pero creo que para este caso se quedan cortos...

Saludos.


Re: Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-10-29 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:22:36 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:

 Buenas tardes, me preguntaba si existe alguna forma de monitorizar las
 visitas, el trafico y estadísticas ya no solo por vhost de apache, que
 se puede, sino por url ...

Mejor si explicas eso de por url.
 
 Conozco awstats y webalizer pero creo que para este caso se quedan
 cortos...

Precisamente acabo de desactivar uno de esos servicios de análisis 
exhaustivos de un servidor, a mí me vale con el Analog, me encanta 
ese programita :-)

En cuanto a tu consulta, en Wikipedia tienes algunas opciones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_analytics_software#Free_.2F_Open_source_.28FLOSS.29

Open Web Analytics y Piwik podrían ser de tu interés.

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Re: Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-10-29 Thread Maykel Franco
El 29/10/2014 19:53, Maykel Franco Hernández Mo2o may...@mo2o.com
escribió:


 El 29/10/2014 19:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 
  El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:22:36 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:
 
   Buenas tardes, me preguntaba si existe alguna forma de monitorizar las
   visitas, el trafico y estadísticas ya no solo por vhost de apache, que
   se puede, sino por url ...
 
  Mejor si explicas eso de por url.

 Me refiero dependiendo si entras a http://www.example.com/test1.html o si
entras a http://www.example.com/test2.html refleje las estadísticas, a
parte del dominio.

 
   Conozco awstats y webalizer pero creo que para este caso se quedan
   cortos...
 
  Precisamente acabo de desactivar uno de esos servicios de análisis
  exhaustivos de un servidor, a mí me vale con el Analog, me encanta
  ese programita :-)

 Um el analog tiene para estadísticas por dirección url diferentes dentro
del mismo dominio?

 
  En cuanto a tu consulta, en Wikipedia tienes algunas opciones:
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_analytics_software#Free_.2F_Open_source_.28FLOSS.29

 Gracias lo echo un vistazo.

 
  Open Web Analytics y Piwik podrían ser de tu interés.
 
  Saludos,

 Saludos.

 
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Open web analytics me gusta bastante y tiene la opción que quiero que
concretamente es estadísticas por page path. E visto la demo, lo único que
interesaría que pusiera el tráfico por page path, y no el porcentaje.


Re: Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-10-29 Thread Maykel Franco Hernández Mo2o
El 29/10/2014 19:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:22:36 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:

  Buenas tardes, me preguntaba si existe alguna forma de monitorizar las
  visitas, el trafico y estadísticas ya no solo por vhost de apache, que
  se puede, sino por url ...

 Mejor si explicas eso de por url.

Me refiero dependiendo si entras a http://www.example.com/test1.html o si
entras a http://www.example.com/test2.html refleje las estadísticas, a
parte del dominio.


  Conozco awstats y webalizer pero creo que para este caso se quedan
  cortos...

 Precisamente acabo de desactivar uno de esos servicios de análisis
 exhaustivos de un servidor, a mí me vale con el Analog, me encanta
 ese programita :-)

Um el analog tiene para estadísticas por dirección url diferentes dentro
del mismo dominio?

 En cuanto a tu consulta, en Wikipedia tienes algunas opciones:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_analytics_software#Free_.2F_Open_source_.28FLOSS.29

Gracias lo echo un vistazo.

 Open Web Analytics y Piwik podrían ser de tu interés.

 Saludos,

Saludos.


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descargar repo de debian 7

2014-10-29 Thread luis

Buenas tardes

Que tengo que hacer para que el repo completo de Debian 7 tanto 32 como 
64 se descargue a el un servidor, se actualice a diario o cada 1 
semana..


Es posible que no descargue testing..???

Pues así todas las pc clientes se actualizarian de la red local y 
actualizao el repo siempre



Alguna idea??

Agradezco toda ayuda...


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Re: descargar repo de debian 7

2014-10-29 Thread Debian GMail

El 29/10/14 a las 17:14, l...@ida.cu escibió:

Buenas tardes

Que tengo que hacer para que el repo completo de Debian 7 tanto 32 como
64 se descargue a el un servidor, se actualice a diario o cada 1 semana..

Es posible que no descargue testing..???

Pues así todas las pc clientes se actualizarian de la red local y
actualizao el repo siempre


Alguna idea??

Agradezco toda ayuda...




RTFM

man apt-mirror


JAP


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Re: descargar repo de debian 7

2014-10-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 04:14:20PM -0400, l...@ida.cu wrote:
 Buenas tardes
 
 Que tengo que hacer para que el repo completo de Debian 7 tanto 32 como 64
 se descargue a el un servidor, se actualice a diario o cada 1 semana..
 
 Es posible que no descargue testing..???
 
 Pues así todas las pc clientes se actualizarian de la red local y actualizao
 el repo siempre
 
 
 Alguna idea??

No te hace falta hacer un mirror completo para eso.

También puedes instalar squid3 en un servidor y en los clientes pones
un fichero /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/40myproxy con este contenido:

Acquire::http::Proxy http://tuproxy.cu:3128;;

Con esto gastarás menos ancho de banda que con un mirror completo.


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Re: descargar repo de debian 7

2014-10-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 05:24:34PM -0300, Debian GMail wrote:
 RTFM

No me parece que la respuesta sea evidente de ninguna forma.

Para leer el fantástico manual primero hay que saber el manual de qué
es lo que hay que leer.


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Re: någon som har tid för en newbie

2014-10-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 20:21 +0100, e...@erikkylin.net wrote:
 Tja allihop. 
 
 I dag har jag äntligen köpt en bärbara pc och hoppas sakta med säkert få över 
 till debian från 15 års användande av osx. 
 Jag är 34 år, pluggar systemvetenskap på Göteborgs Universitet och driver 
 också ett filmproduktions bolag. 
 
 Fins det någon som har lust att svara några av alla tusentals frågor som 
 dyker upp, skriver helst på svenska pga av min dyslexi? 
 IRC, e-post, Skype, FB? 

Välkommen!

Var inte rädd för att ställa frågor direkt här på listan, på så vis ökar
du chansen för att få fler och bättre svar.

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Re: någon som har tid för en newbie

2014-10-29 Thread e...@erikkylin.net
Hej så mycket entusiasm :)

Men Sven ingen tycker väll om e-post listor så mycket att man skall basha ut 
alla frågor? 

I vilket fall det första dygnen med ett nytt OS så har man fult med frågor och 
för lite tid. 

När jag installerade Debian så fick det blir med Lilo som väll har med bottning 
att göra, är det ett problem. Hittills inga problem med prestanda. 
Jag skall som rekommenderat till Fscons under helgen och behöver komma igång 
med wifi. 
Jag har en Lenovo E330 och koden jag behöver är propritär och jag vit intre 
riktigt var i filsystemet den skall installeras. 

Just nu vägrar ownclouds desktop klienten att synka, jag har fel behörigheter 
för att flyta javas JDK till rätt map för att komma igång med ellips och 
netbeans. Hur svårt är det att synka Evolution Kontker och Kalender med 
Owncloud och cyanogenmod på mobilen. Vill ha så lite som möjligt att göra med 
Google. 
 
Tack på förhand. Erik 


On 29 Oct 2014, at 16:22, Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 20:21 +0100, e...@erikkylin.net wrote:
 Tja allihop. 
 
 I dag har jag äntligen köpt en bärbara pc och hoppas sakta med säkert få 
 över till debian från 15 års användande av osx. 
 Jag är 34 år, pluggar systemvetenskap på Göteborgs Universitet och driver 
 också ett filmproduktions bolag. 
 
 Fins det någon som har lust att svara några av alla tusentals frågor som 
 dyker upp, skriver helst på svenska pga av min dyslexi? 
 IRC, e-post, Skype, FB? 
 
 Välkommen!
 
 Var inte rädd för att ställa frågor direkt här på listan, på så vis ökar
 du chansen för att få fler och bättre svar.
 
 -- 
 Cheers,
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Re: någon som har tid för en newbie

2014-10-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 17:32 +0100, e...@erikkylin.net wrote:
 Hej så mycket entusiasm :)
 
 Men Sven ingen tycker väll om e-post listor så mycket att man skall basha ut 
 alla frågor? 

Det är ganska låg aktivitet här på listan, så lite mer frågor (och svar
förstås!) vore nog bara kul.

Men som andra föreslagit är ju IRC ett alternativ.

Fördelen med mailinglistan är ju att svaren arkiveras så andra kan få
hjälp efteråt, jag vet inte om IRC-kanalen loggas iofs.

 I vilket fall det första dygnen med ett nytt OS så har man fult med frågor 
 och för lite tid. 
 
 När jag installerade Debian så fick det blir med Lilo som väll har med 
 bottning att göra, är det ett problem. Hittills inga problem med prestanda. 
 Jag skall som rekommenderat till Fscons under helgen och behöver komma igång 
 med wifi. 
 Jag har en Lenovo E330 och koden jag behöver är propritär och jag vit intre 
 riktigt var i filsystemet den skall installeras. 

Vad jag kan se har den datorn Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 och du
behöver i så fall paketet firmware-iwlwifi som finns non-free
kategorin. 

Jag föreslår också att du installerar paketet intel-microcode (även det
i non-free) för uppdatering av CPU:n.

När paketen väl är installerade hamnar de på rätt plats, det brukar dock
behövas en omstart för att den ska laddas in.

Överhuvudtaget har Lenovos Intel-modeller bra stöd i Linux, så det borde
fungera utan problem.

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Ajuda com Squid3 Performace.

2014-10-29 Thread alan inacio
Srs. Bom dia.
Estou montando um servidor cache.
Cenário link adsl 2mb isso mesmo 2 mb infelizmente não temos outra opção de
link, Divido a internet com 11 pessoas a ideia não é fazer bloqueis por
enquanto rs mas sim aumentar a performance da internet a servidor já esta
em produção.
Montei o script abaixo com base em pesquisa em alguns sites e gostaria de
uma ajuda para aperfeiçoar o serviço com a ajuda de vc’s.

Algumas linha estão apresentando erro não consigo declara toda a minha rede
no cache. como estou no trabalho não consigo posta o erro no momento mas
assim que possível irei postar.

Hardware
Intel i3
Memoria 2gb
Hd 350gb
SO. Debian 6
Squid 3.X

#PORTA DO PROXY
http_port 3128 transparent
always_direct allow all
# Nome do servidor - contato
visible_hostname SRV-CACHE
cache_mgr alan.ina...@yahoo.com.br
# CONFIGURACAO DOS LOGS
access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log
access_log /var/log/squid3/cache.log
cache_store_log /var/log/squid3/store.log
error_directory /usr/share/squid3/errors/Portuguese
# DIRETORIO DO CACHE LIBERADO 240GB NO HD DE 350GB
cache_dir aufs /var/cache/squid3 24 16 256
# MEMORIA TOTAL DO SRV 2GB DDR3 1066
cache_mem 1024 MB
memory_pools off

maximum_object_size_in_memory 512 KB
memory_replacement_policy heap GDSF
quick_abort_min -1 KB

maximum_object_size 1024 MB
minimum_object_size 0 KB

cache_swap_low 80
cache_swap_high 90
ipcache_size 1024
ipcache_low 80
ipcache_high 90
fqdncache_size 1024

# client_request_buffer_max_size 512 KB  DESATIVADO ESTA COM ERRO
# reply_body_max_size 100 MB  DESATIVADO ESTA COM ERRO

detect_broken_pconn on
# ACL
# acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0  DESATIVADO ESTA COM ERRO
acl manager proto cache_object
acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/32

acl SSL_ports port 443 563 873 # https, snews
acl Safe_ports port 80 # http
acl Safe_ports port 21 # ftp
acl Safe_ports port 443 563 973 # https
acl Safe_ports port 70 # gopher
acl Safe_ports port 210 # wais
acl Safe_ports port 1025-65535 # portas altas
acl Safe_ports port 280 # http-mgmt
acl Safe_ports port 488 # gss-http
acl Safe_ports port 591 # filemaker
acl Safe_ports port 777 # multiling http
acl Safe_ports port 3389 # acesso remoto windows
acl CONNECT method CONNECT

http_access allow manager localhost
http_access allow manager
http_access allow !Safe_ports
http_access allow CONNECT !SSL_ports
http_access allow all
# DNS
dns_nameservers 8.8.8.8
dns_nameservers 8.8.4.4

refresh_pattern ^ftp: 1440 20% 10080
refresh_pattern ^gopher: 1440 0% 1440
refresh_pattern -i (/cgi-bin/|\?) 0 0% 0
refresh_pattern . 0 20% 4320
# Atualizacoes do cache
hierarchy_stoplist cgi-bin ?
hierarchy_stoplist html ?

refresh_pattern -i \.jpg$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.gif$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.png$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.jpeg$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.bmp$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.tif$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.tiff$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.swf$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.exe$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.php$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.html$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.htm$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.shtml$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i \.shtm$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
# Videos
refresh_pattern -i \.(mp3|mp4|m4a|ogg|mov|avi|wmv|flv)$ 10080 90% 99
ignore-no-cache override-expire ignore-private
# Widows UPDATE
refresh_pattern -i
microsoft.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|psf) 4320 80%
43200 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i
windowsupdate.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|psf) 4320 80%
43200 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i
update.microsoft.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft) 4320
80% 432000 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i
microsoft.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft) 4320 80%
432000 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i
windowsupdate.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft) 4320 80%
432000 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i
windows.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft) 4320 80%
432000 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i
c2r.microsoft.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft) 4320 80%
432000 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern -i
download.windowsupdate.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft)
4320 80% 432000 reload-into-ims
# Antivirus
refresh_pattern guru.avg.com/.*\.(bin) 4320 100% 43200 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern bguru.avg.com/.*\.(bin) 4320 100% 43200 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern af.avg.com/.*\.(bin) 4320 100% 43200 reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern mbam-cdn.malwarebytes.org/.*\.(exe) 4320 100% 43200
reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern data-cdn.mbamupdates.com/.*\.(ref) 4320 100% 43200
reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern avast.com/.*\.(vpu|cab|stamp|exe) 10080 100% 43200
reload-into-ims
refresh_pattern 

Re: Alinhamento de disco setor 128

2014-10-29 Thread Thiago T. Faioli
Leandro

A única vez que precisei fazer esse tipo de alinhamento, foi para atender
um requisito específico de uma implementação Oracle onde tal conf geraria
melhor performance. .. Mas isso pra mim permaneceu na teoria pois não fiz
testes ... Tive retorno positivo dos DB's

No geral, acredito ser usado em casos bem específicos onde exige uma
geometria diferente
Em 27/10/2014 22:22, Leandro leandro...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Galera o motivo para entrarmos no modo expert do fdisk,e setar o inicio do
 setor para 128 isso se dá por qual motivo?


 Abraços.

 --
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Re: Ajuda com Squid3 Performace.

2014-10-29 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Boa tarde .

Se o seu objetivo é performance, o seu hardware foi muito mau dimencionado !

Para começar, 2 GB de RAM é pouco para este uso .

E em segundo, um HD SSD de 64 GB terá um resultado melhor do que um HD
mecânico de 350 GB .

Se for possível colocar um HD SSD de 128 GB, melhor ainda ...

E eu não usaria um I3 nesta função ...

Monitore de perto o uso da CPU .


Fábio Rabelo

2014-10-29 9:28 GMT-02:00 alan inacio alanbrawdeb...@gmail.com:

 Srs. Bom dia.
 Estou montando um servidor cache.
 Cenário link adsl 2mb isso mesmo 2 mb infelizmente não temos outra opção
 de link, Divido a internet com 11 pessoas a ideia não é fazer bloqueis por
 enquanto rs mas sim aumentar a performance da internet a servidor já esta
 em produção.
 Montei o script abaixo com base em pesquisa em alguns sites e gostaria de
 uma ajuda para aperfeiçoar o serviço com a ajuda de vc’s.

 Algumas linha estão apresentando erro não consigo declara toda a minha
 rede no cache. como estou no trabalho não consigo posta o erro no momento
 mas assim que possível irei postar.

 Hardware
 Intel i3
 Memoria 2gb
 Hd 350gb
 SO. Debian 6
 Squid 3.X

 #PORTA DO PROXY
 http_port 3128 transparent
 always_direct allow all
 # Nome do servidor - contato
 visible_hostname SRV-CACHE
 cache_mgr alan.ina...@yahoo.com.br
 # CONFIGURACAO DOS LOGS
 access_log /var/log/squid3/access.log
 access_log /var/log/squid3/cache.log
 cache_store_log /var/log/squid3/store.log
 error_directory /usr/share/squid3/errors/Portuguese
 # DIRETORIO DO CACHE LIBERADO 240GB NO HD DE 350GB
 cache_dir aufs /var/cache/squid3 24 16 256
 # MEMORIA TOTAL DO SRV 2GB DDR3 1066
 cache_mem 1024 MB
 memory_pools off

 maximum_object_size_in_memory 512 KB
 memory_replacement_policy heap GDSF
 quick_abort_min -1 KB

 maximum_object_size 1024 MB
 minimum_object_size 0 KB

 cache_swap_low 80
 cache_swap_high 90
 ipcache_size 1024
 ipcache_low 80
 ipcache_high 90
 fqdncache_size 1024

 # client_request_buffer_max_size 512 KB  DESATIVADO ESTA COM ERRO
 # reply_body_max_size 100 MB  DESATIVADO ESTA COM ERRO

 detect_broken_pconn on
 # ACL
 # acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0  DESATIVADO ESTA COM ERRO
 acl manager proto cache_object
 acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/32

 acl SSL_ports port 443 563 873 # https, snews
 acl Safe_ports port 80 # http
 acl Safe_ports port 21 # ftp
 acl Safe_ports port 443 563 973 # https
 acl Safe_ports port 70 # gopher
 acl Safe_ports port 210 # wais
 acl Safe_ports port 1025-65535 # portas altas
 acl Safe_ports port 280 # http-mgmt
 acl Safe_ports port 488 # gss-http
 acl Safe_ports port 591 # filemaker
 acl Safe_ports port 777 # multiling http
 acl Safe_ports port 3389 # acesso remoto windows
 acl CONNECT method CONNECT

 http_access allow manager localhost
 http_access allow manager
 http_access allow !Safe_ports
 http_access allow CONNECT !SSL_ports
 http_access allow all
 # DNS
 dns_nameservers 8.8.8.8
 dns_nameservers 8.8.4.4

 refresh_pattern ^ftp: 1440 20% 10080
 refresh_pattern ^gopher: 1440 0% 1440
 refresh_pattern -i (/cgi-bin/|\?) 0 0% 0
 refresh_pattern . 0 20% 4320
 # Atualizacoes do cache
 hierarchy_stoplist cgi-bin ?
 hierarchy_stoplist html ?

 refresh_pattern -i \.jpg$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.gif$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.png$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.jpeg$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.bmp$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.tif$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.tiff$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.swf$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.exe$ 0 50% 21600 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.php$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.html$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.htm$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.shtml$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i \.shtm$ 0 20% 1440 reload-into-ims
 # Videos
 refresh_pattern -i \.(mp3|mp4|m4a|ogg|mov|avi|wmv|flv)$ 10080 90% 99
 ignore-no-cache override-expire ignore-private
 # Widows UPDATE
 refresh_pattern -i
 microsoft.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|psf)
 http://microsoft.com/.*%5C.(cab%7Cexe%7Cms%5Bi%7Cu%7Cf%5D%7Casf%7Cwm%5Bv%7Ca%5D%7Cdat%7Czip%7Cpsf)
 4320 80% 43200 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i
 windowsupdate.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|psf)
 http://windowsupdate.com/.*%5C.(cab%7Cexe%7Cms%5Bi%7Cu%7Cf%5D%7Casf%7Cwm%5Bv%7Ca%5D%7Cdat%7Czip%7Cpsf)
 4320 80% 43200 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i
 update.microsoft.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft)
 http://update.microsoft.com/.*%5C.(cab%7Cexe%7Cms%5Bi%7Cu%7Cf%5D%7Casf%7Cwm%5Bv%7Ca%5D%7Cdat%7Czip%7Cdsft)
 4320 80% 432000 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i
 microsoft.com/.*\.(cab|exe|ms[i|u|f]|asf|wm[v|a]|dat|zip|dsft)
 http://microsoft.com/.*%5C.(cab%7Cexe%7Cms%5Bi%7Cu%7Cf%5D%7Casf%7Cwm%5Bv%7Ca%5D%7Cdat%7Czip%7Cdsft)
 4320 80% 432000 reload-into-ims
 refresh_pattern -i
 

Auto moto gume zimska ponuda

2014-10-29 Thread Zimske Gume

Postovani,

ovim putem zelimo da Vam ponudimo asortiman zimskih guma putem nase
veleprodaje - zastupnici smo za SAVU, DUNLOP, GY i mogucnost ugradnje
istih u nasem servisu.

Servis se nalazi u ulici Jovanke Radakovic 25i ( od Bogoslovije ka
Mirijevu na samom glavnom putu).

Uz ponudu pneumatika za zimu za trenutnu sezonu nudimo Vam ugradnju
istih, balans, centriranje trapa i laku mehaniku po potrebi .
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LZ4 decompression on Boot

2014-10-29 Thread Andre Massena
Hello all,


having trawled through several search engines and perused various Debian
lists, I am still in the dark...

I am running Debian Jessie (Kernel 3.17.1) on a Thinkpad X230. I would like
to use LZ4 to compress/decompress the kernel on booting.
As per apt-get, the release of liblz4-1 I am running is r122-2.

I have the following kernel settings -

CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
CONFIG_ZRAM_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4=y
CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4HC=y
CONFIG_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
CONFIG_LZ4HC_COMPRESS=y
CONFIG_LZ4_DECOMPRESS=y
CONFIG_DECOMPRESS_LZ4=y

in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d I have a file called lz4 which contains the
line 
COMPRESS=lz4c.
I subsequently run update-initramfs with the appropriate switches and reboot.


Result is a initramfs unpacking failed: junk in compiled archive message
at boot.


Does anyone have an idea what I might have done wrong/incorrect or indeed
any pointers?



Regards,



Andre


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Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-29 Thread Bram Diederik
2014-10-28 15:59 GMT+01:00 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org:



 Le 28.10.2014 15:19, Bram Diederik a écrit :

  I am able to connect to the databases

 here is the config of the default site , dev site only has a
 different  X_DEBIAN_SITEID  setting e.g.  FcgidInitialEnv
 X_DEBIAN_SITEID dev

 ---


 IfModule mod_ssl.c
 VirtualHost *:443
 FcgidInitialEnv RAILS_RELATIVE_URL_ROOT 
 FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default

 Alias /plugin_assets/ /var/cache/redmine/default/plugin_assets/
 DocumentRoot /usr/share/redmine/public
 Directory /usr/share/redmine/public
 Options +FollowSymLinks +ExecCGI
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
 RewriteEngine On
 RewriteRule ^$ index.html [QSA]
 RewriteRule ^([^.]+)$ $1.html [QSA]
 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [OR]
 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} dispatch.fcgi$
 RewriteRule ^(.*)$ dispatch.fcgi [QSA,L]
 /Directory
 SSLEngine on
 SSLCertificateFile/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
 SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key

 /VirtualHost
 /IfModule


 Hello.

 I think the problem comes from your apache's configuration. This should
 help you:
 https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/index.html

 In short, you need to setup different VirtualHosts. They can differ with
 name, but this will imply a correct DNS configuration I guess, or by
 IPs/port, which might be easier if you do not have access to your DNS. In
 that case, users will have to know the correct IP/port of the instance.
 If you go to a different port, users will have to use it when accessing
 the server, for example: http://localhost:443/redmine;, or 
 http://localhost:444/redmine;. You will have to take care no daemon is
 listening to ports you used.
 If you go for a different IP, you can simply add it in
 /etc/network/interface, by adding (for example) a eth0:0 address. Users
 will need to know that address, which might be static, or set by a DHCP.

 I'm not an expert on that, so I might be wrong.

 PS: There are some usages on this (and some other) mailing list:

 Only reply to the list, do not reply to both the guy which replied and the
 list, or worse, only to the guy (except special cases).
 Try to reply at the end of the message, quoting only the parts of the
 message your are replying to. It makes it easier for other people to
 contribute to a discussion (since the history is read from top to bottom).
 Do not use HTML when posting. It does not always behave correctly
 everywhere (in my case, it seems my webmail is not able to understand that
 the xml parts were not beacons, which made my quote almost unreadable), and
 is heavier (some people may have very limited bandwidth).


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I dont think changing a virtualhost will fix any thing.

I have two sites the only difference is that One has https 443  and
X_DEBIAN_SITEID default
the other one (sandbox) has http port 3000 and X_DEBIAN_SITEID sandbox

as described in the README.debian.


Re: LZ4 decompression on Boot

2014-10-29 Thread John-John Tedro
On 29 Oct 2014 10:29, Andre Massena andre_mass...@lavache.com wrote:

 Hello all,


 having trawled through several search engines and perused various Debian
 lists, I am still in the dark...

 I am running Debian Jessie (Kernel 3.17.1) on a Thinkpad X230. I would
like
 to use LZ4 to compress/decompress the kernel on booting.
 As per apt-get, the release of liblz4-1 I am running is r122-2.

 I have the following kernel settings -

 CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_ZRAM_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4HC=y
 CONFIG_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_LZ4HC_COMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_LZ4_DECOMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_DECOMPRESS_LZ4=y

 in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d I have a file called lz4 which contains
the
 line
 COMPRESS=lz4c.
 I subsequently run update-initramfs with the appropriate switches and
reboot.


I believe this causes the initramfs image to be compressed differently.
It would then seem that your boot loader is unable to decompress it.


 Result is a initramfs unpacking failed: junk in compiled archive message
 at boot.


 Does anyone have an idea what I might have done wrong/incorrect or indeed
 any pointers?



 Regards,



 Andre



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My guess is that your version/variant of grub (or lilo) doesn't understand
lz4.


Re: LZ4 decompression on Boot

2014-10-29 Thread Andre Massena
John,



I was not aware that Grub played a role in decompressing a kernal at boot as
that is a kernel function.

I am running Grub 2.02 if that matters.

What I should have mentioned in my first post is that gzip (of course) and
xz work flawlessly in decompressing at boot, if selected.


Regards,



Andre
 

En réponse à John-John Tedro johnjohn.te...@gmail.com :
 -- Début du message d'origine 
 
 On 29 Oct 2014 10:29, Andre Massena
 andre_mass...@lavache.com wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
 
  having trawled through several search engines and perused
 various Debian
  lists, I am still in the dark...
 
  I am running Debian Jessie (Kernel 3.17.1) on a Thinkpad
 X230. I would
 like
  to use LZ4 to compress/decompress the kernel on booting.
  As per apt-get, the release of liblz4-1 I am running is
 r122-2.
 
  I have the following kernel settings -
 
  CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y
  CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
  CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
  CONFIG_ZRAM_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
  CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4=y
  CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4HC=y
  CONFIG_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
  CONFIG_LZ4HC_COMPRESS=y
  CONFIG_LZ4_DECOMPRESS=y
  CONFIG_DECOMPRESS_LZ4=y
 
  in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d I have a file called lz4
 which contains
 the
  line
  COMPRESS=lz4c.
  I subsequently run update-initramfs with the appropriate
 switches and
 reboot.
 
 
 I believe this causes the initramfs image to be compressed
 differently.
 It would then seem that your boot loader is unable to
 decompress it.
 
 
  Result is a initramfs unpacking failed: junk in compiled
 archive message
  at boot.
 
 
  Does anyone have an idea what I might have done
 wrong/incorrect or indeed
  any pointers?
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  Andre
 
 


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 doesn't understand
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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:52:54 -0400,
Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com a écrit :

 On 10/28/2014 05:10 PM, Christian Seiler wrote:
  Am 28.10.2014 20:53, schrieb Marty:
  This just being one example of context being leaked. Some of this
  context could be cleaned up if uuidd were setuid root (and not
  setuid uuidd), but not all of it necessarily.
 
   From what you write it's not clear if a) there is an unavoidable
  security threat in all use cases,
 
  Not necessarily a security threat, it could also just be unexpected
  behavior due to leakage of context. The problem is that there are so
  many possibilities of things that could happen in certain
  circumstances with things like this that it's not clear as to what
  the security implications are going to be, not that there
  necessarily are any.
 
  and b) there is no way the systemd
  replacement can co-exist with on-demand UUID in the same
  executable.
 
  No, it could, no question.
 
  Then if I read you correctly, the old mechanism may not work with a
  promised future kernel security feature, but could be working
  securely now in some use cases, albeit as a hack.
 
  I was never talking about future kernel versions. I was talking
  about lots of stuff that is still in the *current* kernel that
  incurs state that is passed on to children of processes. To name a
  few off the top of my head, that might cause problems, depending on
  the circumstances:
 
- capability bounding set (cannot be directly escaped for a
  process, even as root)
- SELinux context (depending on transition rules, maybe can't be
  escaped and certainly would need a specific rule for uuidd from
  every daemon that uses it)
- seccomp syscall filters (usually can't be reset, even as root)
- prctl(PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS) (can't be reset)
- nice priority (needs root to reset)
- cgroup membership (needs root to reset)
- PID namespace (if init of a PID namespace dies, all processes
  inside that namespace get SIGKILL)
- and that's just off the top of my head
 
 So granted, these are problems that need to be fixed, but they are in 
 Wheezy then people are already living with them and probably doing OK.

Problems are identified, some people wants to solve them. And we
shouldn't solve them, because of what?

There is a difference between being OK and being technically correct.

 
 
  Now I'm not saying that all of them are necessarily a problem, it
  really depends on what the concrete circumstances are. But the
  issue here is that for a general-purpose library that may be used
  by different services that may be subject to any number of the
  aforementioned contexts.
 
 Could they have instead made the library call a no-op if systemd is 
 installed, instead of requiring the new dependency? People not using 
 systemd would not be any worse off than currently, and they would
 likely be small in number. For those, the risk of using the old hack
 should be weighed against the risk of a new, complex, and relatively
 untested solution, relative to its size. Should the user be able to
 decide that?

You still need to have something handling the systemd activation
protocol for systemd users. You either need to reimplement in the
executable (code duplication is bad) or depends against the library
that does that for you... And the later is the way (lot of) upstreams
have chosen.

Leaking context information seems more a problem to me that using code
that actually does NOTHING if systemd is not used as PID1.
(Did you actually looked at the code?)

The users who actually care are still free to revert patches and/or
drop configure flags to remove systemd socket activation support.

 
  So instead of shipping something that kind of sort of works in many
  cases now but that may cause some weird, unexpected and probably
  really hard to debug problems later, the authors decided to drop
  this logic and say: on systems without socket activation, it just
  has to always be started. uuidd, if always started, still works on
  those systems.
 
  If that's right, then the way it was removed is the problem.
 
  As I said in my earlier mail: even if there had been no possibility
  to do a safe and secure on-demand activation (no init system with
  socket activation available) I still would have said that removing
  this on-demand hack and always starting uuidd would have probably
  been the best solution.
 
 By problem I meant what I consider the problem of not having an 
 overlap between old and new solutions, and no deprecation period or 
 warning. I don't argue that it should not be corrected. My point was 
 more of a policy and design strategy issue.

There is NO functional change at all, what was working before is still
working now. The only difference is that you have an extra daemon
running from the start (and running in a clean context).

The daemon here on my machine is using 1224KiB of resident memory, this
is nothing on modern machines. I personally don't even see 

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis

Στις 27-10-2014 18:15, Christian Seiler έγραψε:

Am 27.10.2014 15:05, schrieb Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:

Στις 27-10-2014 14:53, Christian Seiler έγραψε:

To me a lot of the anti-systemd response here seems to be a purely
gut-driven emotional response. I realize that what kind of 
preferences
we have in the software we want to use has a large emotional 
component.
For example, I don't think you can put my opinion of GNOME into 
purely

technical terms.[3] So I don't think that it's a bad thing for people
to
say I am emotionally attached to sysvinit and want to keep using 
it,
but to rant against a dependency on something that DOES NOT PREVENT 
YOU

from doing so, doesn't seem to be a very rational way of going about
things to me.


A quick search reveals the following.

I've a software that use libuuid. Until now, the uuidd had the ability
to start on-demand the uuidd if the later, quotting ... setuid to an
unprivileged user (e.g. uuidd:uuidd).

After that commit[1], i'm forced to use systemd, if i don't want to
start uuidd from the beginning. That's new for me...

[1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg09698.html


Could you do me a favor and reread the paragraph I wrote? I explicitly
said that I didn't have a problem with people saying that they wanted 
to
continue using sysvinit for whatever reasons, I was merely responding 
to

the fact that some people have an allergic reaction to anything that
contains the word 'systemd' (going so far that some people extend that
disdain to the compatibility layer called 'systemd-shim' that is NOT
written by the systemd authors), and I was directly responding to an
email where somebody was complaining about libsystemd0.


snip 

  I was trying to understand the implications of systemd adoption to my 
daily work, which for me are not only technical. I'm avoiding to write 
technical cause for me, for the same reason. I could write software for 
Windows and OS X but I choose not to do it for non technical reasons.


  AFAIU, after reading, whatever i could find and seems to me relevant, 
regarding the direction of Linux/GNU OS the systemd developers and 
supporters have envisioned, i concluded that i don't agree with them.


  Currently ( even if it's not correct 100% ), I had the feeling that I 
was in the driver seat of my OS, giving back-pressure to the upstreams 
with my choices reg. the software I use. With the adoption of systemd 
from all ( ? ) Desktop Enviroments AND from the OS core, the feeling is 
that i loose control of the very core services which are going to the 
hands of some we know best people. If i wanted or agreed with such an 
approach, then I will used the BSD's, OS X or even Windows. The mix and 
match at the most possible low level aspect of Debian, attracted me for 
using it, not it's technical superiority or corporate acceptance of it.


  Anyway, thank you for your very informative replies and suggestions.

Regards,
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bc menu files? (Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...)

2014-10-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Christian Seiler christ...@iwakd.de wrote:
 [...]
 Quite a few packages ship Debian menu files and/or freedesktop.org
 .desktop files for the inclusion in menus. For example, bc installs a
 Debian menu file.

No kidding?

(Looking in my menus and not seeing anything bc-ish.)

What menus should I be looking in?

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Re: Thinking about preserving freedom of choice of init systems and future of udev...

2014-10-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/28/2014 8:45 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 John Hasler wrote:
 Martinx writes:
 I'm wondering here about this subject and what it means...
 So, what if `udev` becomes useless without `systemd` as PID1?

 The someone will fork it.  But it won't happen, partly for that reason.

 I believe it's called eudev - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/eudev/

Right. eudev was forked by some gentoo devs when systemd consumed udev.

The biggest problem (actually, it is more like snarky criticisms from
systemd fanbois) I've heard about it right now is that because it only
has one or two maintainers, that it doesn't keep up with
changes/improvements (especially security related things) with current udev.

So, please, by all means, if you are a developer, please go talk to the
eudev guys and see about helping with keeping eudev updated with the
*good* things in udev development...


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Re: Thinking about preserving freedom of choice of init systems and future of udev...

2014-10-29 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 09:11:12PM -0200, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
 Guys,

  I'm wondering here about this subject and what it means...

  So, what if `udev` becomes useless without `systemd` as PID1?

Then we'll use busybox's mdev instead of it. Has less features, yet all
the needed parts are there.
Failing that, there's always kernel's devtmpfs :)

Reco


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Re: bc menu files? (Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...)

2014-10-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/10/14 22:35, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Christian Seiler christ...@iwakd.de wrote:
 [...]
 Quite a few packages ship Debian menu files and/or freedesktop.org
 .desktop files for the inclusion in menus. For example, bc installs a
 Debian menu file.
 
 No kidding?
 
 (Looking in my menus and not seeing anything bc-ish.)
 
 What menus should I be looking in?
 

/usr/share/menu/bc

(A debian menu inclusion)


refs:-
man mlocate
man grep


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Re: bc menu files? (Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...)

2014-10-29 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 29.10.2014 12:35, schrieb Joel Rees:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Christian Seiler christ...@iwakd.de wrote:
 [...]
 Quite a few packages ship Debian menu files and/or freedesktop.org
 .desktop files for the inclusion in menus. For example, bc installs a
 Debian menu file.
 
 No kidding?
 
 (Looking in my menus and not seeing anything bc-ish.)
 
 What menus should I be looking in?

root@jessie1:~# dpkg -L bc | grep menu
/usr/share/menu
/usr/share/menu/bc
root@jessie1:~# cat /usr/share/menu/bc
?package(bc):needs=text section=Applications/Science/Mathematics
title=Bc hints=Calculators command=/usr/bin/bc

Taken from a current Jessie VM, bc version 1.06.95-9.

See: https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/

See also current TC bug about Debian menu system vs. freedesktop.org
.desktop files, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741573

Christian


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Re: Lets make `eudev + uselessd` Debian packages?

2014-10-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/27/2014 10:20 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
  I would like to evaluate both `eudev` (or any other *udev), plus
 `uselessd`, on Debian sid/testing.
 
  Lets do it?!
 
  I' m planning to achieve, at least, CGroups Process with `uselessd`
 (no init scripts).

I would strongly encourage you to get in touch with the eudev
maintainers and offer to help.

The biggest criticism I heard on the gentoo list when eudev was forked
from udev (by a couple of gentoo devs a long time ago when systemd
consumed udev) - by systemd proponents - and actually, it was more
snarky derisive remarks - was that eudev was not keeping up with all of
the 'improvements' that were being pushed into udev by the systemd devs,
and so the systems of anyone using eudev were somehow less secure and/or
at risk...

So, the first thing to do is start helping out the eudev devs to get it
fully up to date with the current state (non-systemd-related) of the
mainline udev, and see what can be done about keeping it there (at least
with respect to anything critical/important)...

Who knows, uselessd+eudev may become the new default gentoo init system,
and alternative init system for anyone wanting a systemd-less system.

I imagine there would at the very least have to also be maintained
something like the systemd-shim, that would act as the interface for
programs that require systemd, to provide an alternate means of
accomplishing whatever is needed by the dependency.


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Re: LZ4 decompression on Boot

2014-10-29 Thread Andre Massena
No takers here? 

I would have thought that compress/decompress at Boot would have been mildly
interesting for some...


Regards,



Andre

 


En réponse à Andre Massena andre_mass...@lavache.com :
 -- Début du message d'origine 
 
 John,
 
 
 
 I was not aware that Grub played a role in decompressing a
 kernal at boot as
 that is a kernel function.
 
 I am running Grub 2.02 if that matters.
 
 What I should have mentioned in my first post is that gzip
 (of course) and
 xz work flawlessly in decompressing at boot, if selected.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 Andre
  
 
 En réponse à John-John Tedro johnjohn.te...@gmail.com :
  -- Début du message d'origine
 
  
  On 29 Oct 2014 10:29, Andre Massena
  andre_mass...@lavache.com wrote:
  
   Hello all,
  
  
   having trawled through several search engines and perused
  various Debian
   lists, I am still in the dark...
  
   I am running Debian Jessie (Kernel 3.17.1) on a Thinkpad
  X230. I would
  like
   to use LZ4 to compress/decompress the kernel on booting.
   As per apt-get, the release of liblz4-1 I am running is
  r122-2.
  
   I have the following kernel settings -
  
   CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y
   CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
   CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
   CONFIG_ZRAM_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
   CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4=y
   CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4HC=y
   CONFIG_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
   CONFIG_LZ4HC_COMPRESS=y
   CONFIG_LZ4_DECOMPRESS=y
   CONFIG_DECOMPRESS_LZ4=y
  
   in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d I have a file called lz4
  which contains
  the
   line
   COMPRESS=lz4c.
   I subsequently run update-initramfs with the appropriate
  switches and
  reboot.
  
  
  I believe this causes the initramfs image to be compressed
  differently.
  It would then seem that your boot loader is unable to
  decompress it.
  
  
   Result is a initramfs unpacking failed: junk in compiled
  archive message
   at boot.
  
  
   Does anyone have an idea what I might have done
  wrong/incorrect or indeed
   any pointers?
  
  
  
   Regards,
  
  
  
   Andre
  
  
 


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Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-29 Thread berenger . morel



Le 29.10.2014 11:04, Bram Diederik a écrit :

2014-10-28 15:59 GMT+01:00 :


Le 28.10.2014 15:19, Bram Diederik a écrit :


I am able to connect to the databases

here is the config of the default site , dev site only has a
different  X_DEBIAN_SITEID  setting e.g.  FcgidInitialEnv
X_DEBIAN_SITEID dev

---

        FcgidInitialEnv RAILS_RELATIVE_URL_ROOT 
        FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default

        Alias /plugin_assets/
/var/cache/redmine/default/plugin_assets/
        DocumentRoot /usr/share/redmine/public
       
                Options +FollowSymLinks +ExecCGI
                Order allow,deny
                Allow from all
                RewriteEngine On
                RewriteRule ^$ index.html [QSA]
                RewriteRule ^([^.]+)$ $1.html [QSA]
                RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [OR]
                RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME}
dispatch.fcgi$
                RewriteRule ^(.*)$ dispatch.fcgi [QSA,L]
       
        SSLEngine on
        SSLCertificateFile   
/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
        SSLCertificateKeyFile
/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key


Hello.

I think the problem comes from your apache's configuration. This
should help you:
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/index.html [1]

In short, you need to setup different VirtualHosts. They can
differ with name, but this will imply a correct DNS configuration I
guess, or by IPs/port, which might be easier if you do not have
access to your DNS. In that case, users will have to know the
correct IP/port of the instance.
If you go to a different port, users will have to use it when
accessing the server, for example: http://localhost:443/redmine
[2], or http://localhost:444/redmine [3]. You will have to take
care no daemon is listening to ports you used.
If you go for a different IP, you can simply add it in
/etc/network/interface, by adding (for example) a eth0:0 address.
Users will need to know that address, which might be static, or set
by a DHCP.

I'm not an expert on that, so I might be wrong.

PS: There are some usages on this (and some other) mailing list:

Only reply to the list, do not reply to both the guy which replied
and the list, or worse, only to the guy (except special cases).
Try to reply at the end of the message, quoting only the parts of
the message your are replying to. It makes it easier for other
people to contribute to a discussion (since the history is read

from

top to bottom).
Do not use HTML when posting. It does not always behave correctly
everywhere (in my case, it seems my webmail is not able to
understand that the xml parts were not beacons, which made my quote
almost unreadable), and is heavier (some people may have very
limited bandwidth).

--


I dont think changing a virtualhost will fix any thing.

I have two sites the only difference is that One has https 443  and
X_DEBIAN_SITEID default

the other one (sandbox) has http port 3000 and X_DEBIAN_SITEID
sandbox

as described in the README.debian.



Links:
--
[1] https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/index.html
[2] http://localhost:443/redmine
[3] http://localhost:444/redmine
[4] mailto:berenger.mo...@neutralite.org


So, you probably should have one virtual host like

VirtualHost *:443

and the other one like

VirtualHost *:3000

?


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Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread berenger . morel



Le 29.10.2014 06:38, Charlie a écrit :

On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:47:26 -0400 Charles Kroeger sent:

It's very maintained on linux. I suggest you try Opera beta. It's 
the

best browser I've used in a long time.

Version:26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date
Update stream:  beta
System: Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid (x86_64; XFCE)

http://deb.opera.com


But dependency hell. [laughing] Which gstreamer*

None seem to work without leading to another dependency.

I think I stopped using Opera years ago because it was too closed 
down.


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Considering that I do not use gstreamer at all, I have simply worked 
around this problem by building fake gstreamer packages.



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Re: Understanding DNS, Create an Failover

2014-10-29 Thread Florian Weimer
 If the DNS information does not change frequently, then you can make
 the changes to both databases manually. You may be able to just copy
 the zone files, I'm not sure, but you will need to update the serial
 numbers.

Basti asked about resolvers, you are talking about authoritative
servers.

Basti, if the timeout from the first listed name server bothers you
can either install a local resolver such as BIND or Unbound and
configure it as a forwarder (the local resolver will react more
gracefully to unavailable upstream resolvers), or use techniques such
as IP anycast or some other high-availability approach to make sure
that there is always a server responding under the IP address you have
configured.


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Re: bc menu files? (Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...)

2014-10-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Christian Seiler christ...@iwakd.de wrote:
 Am 29.10.2014 12:35, schrieb Joel Rees:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Christian Seiler christ...@iwakd.de wrote:
 [...]
 Quite a few packages ship Debian menu files and/or freedesktop.org
 .desktop files for the inclusion in menus. For example, bc installs a
 Debian menu file.

 No kidding?

 (Looking in my menus and not seeing anything bc-ish.)

 What menus should I be looking in?

 root@jessie1:~# dpkg -L bc | grep menu
 /usr/share/menu
 /usr/share/menu/bc
 root@jessie1:~# cat /usr/share/menu/bc
 ?package(bc):needs=text section=Applications/Science/Mathematics
 title=Bc hints=Calculators command=/usr/bin/bc

And that tells me exactly zip about why bc doesn't show up in my XFCE4
menus. (I mean the pointy-clicky ones.)

I suppose I should try booting non-gui and starting up a desktopless
window manager to see if I can get those menus in one of those?

Not that I'm interested in running bc from the menu. What I'm really
interested in is a way not to lose track of all those cool hex editors
and network analyzers that I've installed and forgotten about.

 Taken from a current Jessie VM, bc version 1.06.95-9.

Non-vm Wheezy, FWIW. The bc entry in the debian menu declaration does
not seem to have changed.

 See: https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/

Great. Next time I create a package, I'll know where to look for
instructions for setting up menu entries. (No sarcasm intended. I'm
likely to need that within a year, one way or another.)

Which, I must suppose, seeing things as they are, will have a certain
probability of being ignored. But that's okay. The package I will
likely be putting together doesn't really want a gui for most of its
potential users. (All five or so of them. Heh.)

 See also current TC bug about Debian menu system vs. freedesktop.org
 .desktop files, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741573

Okay, that gives me the background. Read something about menu-xdg and
about exmenen, but I still can't tell how I can get the menu where bc,
et. al., should be to show up in my actual menus. (Either exmenen
needs something more in the extra menus directories, or I can't figure
out the parameters, or it's not the wookie I'm looking for.)

Thanks anyway. If you have any more suggestions, I'm all ears. There's
something there I just haven't been able to find yet.

-- 
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Look first in your own heart,
and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself.


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Re: bc menu files? (Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...)

2014-10-29 Thread Christian Seiler

Am 2014-10-29 15:42, schrieb Joel Rees:
And that tells me exactly zip about why bc doesn't show up in my 
XFCE4

menus. (I mean the pointy-clicky ones.)


I suspect XFCE4, like most DEs available, only parses XDG .desktop
files, and doesn't parse Debian's menu system. If you read through the
TC bug, you'll see that the current situation is complicated[tm].


I suppose I should try booting non-gui and starting up a desktopless
window manager to see if I can get those menus in one of those?


Probably, I haven't tried.


Not that I'm interested in running bc from the menu. What I'm really
interested in is a way not to lose track of all those cool hex 
editors

and network analyzers that I've installed and forgotten about.


apt-get install pdmenu

Doesn't even need X11, has next to no dependencies. You could even
install it on a server without loosing your 'real server admins[tm]
don't use GUIs' credentials. ;-)

Christian


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Can't assemble 7.7 DVDs with jigdo

2014-10-29 Thread st

Hey, folks,

Has anybody else get a bunch of 404 File Not Found trying to put
together 7.7's install DVDs for amd64 and i386? And if so, have
you found a workaround?

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Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-29 Thread Bram Diederik
2014-10-29 15:20 GMT+01:00 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org:



 Le 29.10.2014 11:04, Bram Diederik a écrit :

 2014-10-28 15:59 GMT+01:00 :

  Le 28.10.2014 15:19, Bram Diederik a écrit :

  I am able to connect to the databases

 here is the config of the default site , dev site only has a
 different  X_DEBIAN_SITEID  setting e.g.  FcgidInitialEnv
 X_DEBIAN_SITEID dev

 ---

 FcgidInitialEnv RAILS_RELATIVE_URL_ROOT 
 FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default

 Alias /plugin_assets/
 /var/cache/redmine/default/plugin_assets/
 DocumentRoot /usr/share/redmine/public

 Options +FollowSymLinks +ExecCGI
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
 RewriteEngine On
 RewriteRule ^$ index.html [QSA]
 RewriteRule ^([^.]+)$ $1.html [QSA]
 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [OR]
 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME}
 dispatch.fcgi$
 RewriteRule ^(.*)$ dispatch.fcgi [QSA,L]

 SSLEngine on
 SSLCertificateFile
 /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
 SSLCertificateKeyFile
 /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key


 Hello.

 I think the problem comes from your apache's configuration. This
 should help you:
 https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/index.html [1]

 In short, you need to setup different VirtualHosts. They can
 differ with name, but this will imply a correct DNS configuration I
 guess, or by IPs/port, which might be easier if you do not have
 access to your DNS. In that case, users will have to know the
 correct IP/port of the instance.
 If you go to a different port, users will have to use it when
 accessing the server, for example: http://localhost:443/redmine
 [2], or http://localhost:444/redmine [3]. You will have to take

 care no daemon is listening to ports you used.
 If you go for a different IP, you can simply add it in
 /etc/network/interface, by adding (for example) a eth0:0 address.
 Users will need to know that address, which might be static, or set
 by a DHCP.

 I'm not an expert on that, so I might be wrong.

 PS: There are some usages on this (and some other) mailing list:

 Only reply to the list, do not reply to both the guy which replied
 and the list, or worse, only to the guy (except special cases).
 Try to reply at the end of the message, quoting only the parts of
 the message your are replying to. It makes it easier for other
 people to contribute to a discussion (since the history is read

 from

 top to bottom).
 Do not use HTML when posting. It does not always behave correctly
 everywhere (in my case, it seems my webmail is not able to
 understand that the xml parts were not beacons, which made my quote
 almost unreadable), and is heavier (some people may have very
 limited bandwidth).

 --


 I dont think changing a virtualhost will fix any thing.

 I have two sites the only difference is that One has https 443  and
 X_DEBIAN_SITEID default

 the other one (sandbox) has http port 3000 and X_DEBIAN_SITEID
 sandbox

 as described in the README.debian.



 Links:
 --
 [1] https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/index.html
 [2] http://localhost:443/redmine
 [3] http://localhost:444/redmine
 [4] mailto:berenger.mo...@neutralite.org


 So, you probably should have one virtual host like

 VirtualHost *:443

 and the other one like

 VirtualHost *:3000

 ?


 --
 Yes and both there own FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID setting.

 FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default  for the 443 site

 FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID dev  for the 3000 site


but both sites connect to the default site when i visit them with some
browser


Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Marty wrote:
 Could they have instead made the library call a no-op if systemd is
 installed, instead of requiring the new dependency?

No. The way shared libraries work is that the symbols must be resolved
at start up (or at dlopen()). Furthermore, even if you were to use
dlopen(), if the systemd library changes soname, you'd still need a
dependency or you'd potentially have breakage.

 For those, the risk of using the old hack should be weighed against
 the risk of a new, complex, and relatively untested solution, relative
 to its size. Should the user be able to decide that?

Having the user decide that is complex, and would require allowing the
user to rebuild whole swaths of packages with different dependencies.
You can do that even in Debian, but not without a great deal of work,
and it's not something that we're going to support for such a trivial
set of libraries.

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Missing Changelog for Iceweasel/xulrunner wheezy repo

2014-10-29 Thread James Davis
Apologies if this is the wrong mailing list, I wasn't sure of where would
be most appropriate.

This is only a minor issue, but the packages for the current iceweasel
package 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 and xulrunner in wheezy appear to be missing
both their changelog and copyright file as pointed to by debian packages at:

http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1_changelog

and

http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1_copyright

I assume the appropriate file has just gone awry for some reason (I imagine
it's automated but perhaps something was overlooked?)

Best Regards


Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-29 Thread berenger . morel

Le 29.10.2014 16:11, Bram Diederik a écrit :


So, you probably should have one virtual host like

and the other one like

?

--
Yes and both there own FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID setting. 

FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default  for the 443 site

FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID dev  for the 3000 site


but both sites connect to the default site when i visit them with
some browser


Can you show the whole exact content of your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 
please?
Could you also show the content of /etc/redmine/ (for i in $(find 
/etc/redmine); do echo $i;cat $i;done will do the job)?



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Kile 2.1.0-1: No more Config kile. forward view and inverse search not working anymore

2014-10-29 Thread laurent debian

Hi all,
This does not seems do be known as a bug.
But on my last kile (from sid) I can not find the configure Kile from 
tools menu.

Moreover the inverse search with okular is not working anymore.
 Neither the forward view from Kile.
Without the configure kile  buttons I am stuck.
Any information about what is going on ?


Laurent.


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Re: Can't assemble 7.7 DVDs with jigdo

2014-10-29 Thread Steve McIntyre
Serge wrote:
Hey, folks,

Has anybody else get a bunch of 404 File Not Found trying to put
together 7.7's install DVDs for amd64 and i386? And if so, have
you found a workaround?

Hi Serge,

As far as I know it *should* be working. What mirror are you using?

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Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Siard
Charlie:
 Charles Kroeger:
  I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the best browser I've used in a
  long time.
  
  Version:26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date
  Update stream:  beta
  System: Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid (x86_64; XFCE)
  
  http://deb.opera.com
 
 But dependency hell. [laughing] Which gstreamer*
 
 None seem to work without leading to another dependency.

I just installed the x86_64 version in my new PC (amd64) with 'dpkg -i'.
After trying to 'apt-get install' the 3 gstreamer*-dependencies,
I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages)
and voilà: all dependencies were neatly solved.


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Re: LZ4 decompression on Boot

2014-10-29 Thread Andre Massena
I cannot believe that nobody has tried to boot using LZ4 kernel
compression/decompression.

According to the (very sparse) documentation, this feature has been
available since the end of 2013.


Regards,


Andre


En réponse à Andre Massena andre_mass...@lavache.com :
 -- Début du message d'origine 
 
 No takers here? 
 
 I would have thought that compress/decompress at Boot would
 have been mildly
 interesting for some...
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 Andre
 
  
 
 
 En réponse à Andre Massena andre_mass...@lavache.com :
  -- Début du message d'origine
 
  
  John,
  
  
  
  I was not aware that Grub played a role in decompressing a
  kernal at boot as
  that is a kernel function.
  
  I am running Grub 2.02 if that matters.
  
  What I should have mentioned in my first post is that gzip
  (of course) and
  xz work flawlessly in decompressing at boot, if selected.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  
  
  Andre
   
  
  En réponse à John-John Tedro johnjohn.te...@gmail.com :
   -- Début du message d'origine
  
   
   On 29 Oct 2014 10:29, Andre Massena
   andre_mass...@lavache.com wrote:
   
Hello all,
   
   
having trawled through several search engines and
 perused
   various Debian
lists, I am still in the dark...
   
I am running Debian Jessie (Kernel 3.17.1) on a Thinkpad
   X230. I would
   like
to use LZ4 to compress/decompress the kernel on booting.
As per apt-get, the release of liblz4-1 I am running is
   r122-2.
   
I have the following kernel settings -
   
CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
CONFIG_ZRAM_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4=y
CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4HC=y
CONFIG_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
CONFIG_LZ4HC_COMPRESS=y
CONFIG_LZ4_DECOMPRESS=y
CONFIG_DECOMPRESS_LZ4=y
   
in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d I have a file called
 lz4
   which contains
   the
line
COMPRESS=lz4c.
I subsequently run update-initramfs with the appropriate
   switches and
   reboot.
   
   
   I believe this causes the initramfs image to be compressed
   differently.
   It would then seem that your boot loader is unable to
   decompress it.
   
   
Result is a initramfs unpacking failed: junk in
 compiled
   archive message
at boot.
   
   
Does anyone have an idea what I might have done
   wrong/incorrect or indeed
any pointers?
   
   
   
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Re: Can't assemble 7.7 DVDs with jigdo

2014-10-29 Thread st

Steve McIntyre wrote:


Has anybody else get a bunch of 404 File Not Found trying to put
together 7.7's install DVDs for amd64 and i386? And if so, have
you found a workaround?


As far as I know it *should* be working. What mirror are you using?


Yes, always Just Worked™ for me.

First, jigdo tries my local one, recently updated from
ftp.fi.debian.org, then snapshot.debian.org, then
us.cdimage.debian.org. None of them has these files.

Strange thing is, the last attempt did assemble the amd64
main images (not the debian-update ones though, perhaps because
I just killed the job when 404s started coming.) The i384 ones
still lack things like initrd.gz and vmlinuz.

Here are the full URLs in case it gives somebody a clue:

http://localhost/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-i386/20130613+deb7u2+b3/images/cdrom/initrd.gz
http://localhost/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-i386/20130613+deb7u2+b3/images/cdrom/gtk/vmlinuz

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Re: LZ4 decompression on Boot

2014-10-29 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Andre,

Le mercredi, 29 octobre 2014, 11.43:18 Andre Massena a écrit :
 I was not aware that Grub played a role in decompressing a kernal at
 boot as that is a kernel function.
 (…)

Le mercredi, 29 octobre 2014, 13.21:37 Andre Massena a écrit :
 No takers here?
 (…)

Le mercredi, 29 octobre 2014, 18.21:40 Andre Massena a écrit :
 I cannot believe that nobody has tried to boot using LZ4 kernel
 compression/decompression.

I would suggest that you wait slightly more than 5 hours before re-
pinging the list… Please be patient.

Now, for the subject at hand, I suspect most users don't care switching 
away from the default kernel compression scheme, which happens to just 
work. It also has a minor impact on disk-space and an even smaller 
impact on boot time. I'm not really surprised you aren't getting many 
answers.

Cheers,
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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread lee
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:

 On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, lee wrote:
 That's an abuse of dependencies, and I consider it a bug. The package
 management needs to take care of this itself.

 That shouldn't need to be installed when systemd isn't used.

 libselinux might then also fall under abuse of dependencies.

 If a binary links against a library, the library must be present for
 the binary to run. It doesn't matter if the codepaths you are using
 don't use those symbols, they still must be there.

 The only way around this is to dlopen(), and that produces its own host
 of problems.

 To sum it up:  No matter whether you use systemd or not, Debian depends
 on it.

 Debian has packages which have dependencies on some of the libraries
 that systemd provides. That's orthogonal to whether Debian requires
 systemd to be PID 1 or not.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.  That Debian might not require
you to run something in particular (never speak a daemons' name, see
below) as pid 1 doesn't mean that Debian doesn't depend on it.


As to package management: When you don't have a software installed,
other software you have installed shouldn't depend on the software you
don't have installed when the installed software doesn't use the
software which is not installed.

That's one of the things packet management is supposed to take care of,
isn't it?

Otherwise, we all could just install all software, perhaps with a few
exceptions of software that doesn't go together with some other software
until these softwares have been fixed or removed from Debian.  Then we
won't even need package management anymore, which would probably save a
lot of work.

All the software you have to install and don't use is, of course,
harmless and doesn't matter because you don't use it.


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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread lee
Christian Seiler christ...@iwakd.de writes:

 Am 26.10.2014 23:38, schrieb lee:
 libsystemd0 is just 140 KiB and contains utility functions that might be
 useful for programs interfacing with systemd. It is absolutely harmless
 on systems with another init system, it will just tell the programs that
 systemd is not running.

 logger itself works just fine without systemd being PID1, just the
 --journald option will not work then.
 
 So now we are supposed to install packages to have software with no
 other function than to tell other software that software we don't have
 installed on our system isn't running.

 Yes, but that has always been the case. If you look at Wheezy, then
 coreutils (cp, mv, ls, ...) requires the following libraries:

  - libacl1
  - libattr1
  - libselinux1

 If you don't use extended attributes, POSIX ACLs or SELinux, you
 technically won't need either of those, and you could use coreutils not
 linked against these.

 [...]

 Of course, you could devise ever-complicated schemes on how to
 dynamically load these dependencies at runtime so that you save a few
 KiB in install size and a couple of CPU cycles (which are probably
 canceled out by the amount of CPU cycles this more complicated scheme
 takes).

Why at runtime?  There would have to be different packages, depending on
what you need.  That, too, is a feature of package management:  You
install those packages you need and not those you don't need.

 But why bother? These types of libraries are relatively small (of the
 order of 100 KiB) and have no side effects if the features are not used.

 Sure, if you are building an embedded system with just a few megabytes
 of flash storage, then even 100 KiB might be a bit much - but Debian
 wasn't designed for that, and coreutils (which is the example here that
 depends on the aforementioned libraries) is itself ~ 13-14 MiB on Wheezy...

 That's an abuse of dependencies, and I consider it a bug.

 If you really want to expunge all code that is even remotely related to
 $X (with $X being systemd, SELinux or whatever), you should probably
 consider a distribution that allows you to customize your build process,
 such as Gentoo.

I am considering Funtoo.

 Binary distributions, unless they wanted to have builds for all possible
 combination of features in software (which is an exponentially large
 number) will ALWAYS have code installed you are not going to use.

That's certainly a problem.  I think it's somewhat different in this
case, though:  In one case, you have some libraries for things you might
not use.  In the other, you have a library just to tell some software
that another software isn't running.

  - libsystemd0
systemd utility functions for use in software interfacing with
systemd. Does not require systemd to be PID1.
 
 That shouldn't need to be installed when systemd isn't used.

 Let's say I write a daemon that implements systemd's readiness protocol,
 and instead of linking against libsystemd0 I just implement the protocol
 itself. This will be a bit of code inside the daemon that checks how the
 daemon was started and depending on the outcome uses that protocol or
 not. This is exactly what the sd_notify() function in libsystemd0 does,
 but the protocol is so simple that one can easily do that by hand. Since
 the code is harmless when used on non-systemd systems, I always leave it
 in and don't provide a possibility for disabling it (since it's not
 necessary to disable it).

 Then somebody goes on and packages this daemon for Debian. And you find
 the functionality provided by that daemon to be useful. Do you then not
 use the daemon because it knows how to talk to systemd? The daemon
 doesn't use that functionality if started from something else, so it's
 not like it's going to affect your system. But it has code in it that in
 some way in some shape or form relates to systemd.

I would rather stay free of systemd.  The problem is that this is
already pretty much impossible.

 A few packages don't only ship init scripts but also systemd service
 files. On non-systemd systems those files just lie around and do
 nothing. Should packages stop installing them because it's related to
 'systemd'? What about upstart init files?

I've always preferred to have only installed what is needed.
Unfortunately, this has become more and more difficult.

 Quite a few packages ship Debian menu files and/or freedesktop.org
 .desktop files for the inclusion in menus. For example, bc installs a
 Debian menu file. On a server, you might want to have bc (for shell
 script automation or the such), but you are probably not going to
 install a software that processes the menu files. (Before I get lots of
 replies to this: I said probably. ;-)) Should bc not ship this menu file
 then?

It's ok to ship it.  It shouldn't be installed when it's not needed.

 So basically, if you don't want systemd:

  - you will not get around libsystemd0, but that is really, really
harmless (you also 

Re: LZ4 decompression on Boot

2014-10-29 Thread Vanessa Blöchinger
On 2014-10-29 10:22, Andre Massena wrote:
 Hello all,


 having trawled through several search engines and perused various Debian
 lists, I am still in the dark...

 I am running Debian Jessie (Kernel 3.17.1) on a Thinkpad X230. I would like
 to use LZ4 to compress/decompress the kernel on booting.
 As per apt-get, the release of liblz4-1 I am running is r122-2.

 I have the following kernel settings -

 CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_ZRAM_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4=y
 CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZ4HC=y
 CONFIG_LZ4_COMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_LZ4HC_COMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_LZ4_DECOMPRESS=y
 CONFIG_DECOMPRESS_LZ4=y

 in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d I have a file called lz4 which contains the
 line 
 COMPRESS=lz4c.
 I subsequently run update-initramfs with the appropriate switches and reboot.


 Result is a initramfs unpacking failed: junk in compiled archive message
 at boot.


 Does anyone have an idea what I might have done wrong/incorrect or indeed
 any pointers?



 Regards,



 Andre

Hi Andre,

looks like the kernel is using an older, less standardized format for
its lz4 compression. Use the -l switch on lz4c for  linux kernel support.

See the lz4 man page and
https://code.google.com/p/lz4/issues/detail?id=66#c2

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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread golinux

On Tue, 10/28/14, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:

 Subject: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014, 2:54 PM



I am considering Funtoo.


I would rather stay free of systemd.  The problem is that this is
already pretty much impossible.



Hard but not impossible.  See this list.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3t=118319

Funtoo is on there as as well as Debian-based Refracta which just posted 
a systemd-free 'Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit' iso (without 
libsystemd0):


:~$ cat package_list | grep systemd
:~$



I've always preferred to have only installed what is needed.
Unfortunately, this has become more and more difficult.

It's ok to ship it.  It shouldn't be installed when it's not needed.



Yes to all of this.

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Installing Debian in Xen VM no /dev/xvda

2014-10-29 Thread Mario Castelán Castro

Hello.

I'm trying to install Debian remotely in a virtual machine. During 
installation, there is no /dev/xvda but only /dev/xvda1 and /dev/xvda2. 
Before installing Debian remotely, the system has a GNU/Linux image in 
which the former block device contains a filesystem with no swap, and 
the later is for swap. During installation, the Debian installer 
inconsistently recognized /dev/xvda1 as a partition and then as a whole 
disk.


I intend to install LVM here. In the section “formatting disks”, 
/dev/xvda1 is handled as a partition, and there is no option to use it 
as a PV for LVM. I tried to manually perform partitioning by first 
DD'ing the first 4 MiB, then using cfdisk, but I get this error message 
just after using “w” to write the partition table and quit fdisk:


  The partition table has been altered!

  Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.

  WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid 
argument.

  The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at
  the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)
  Syncing disks.

And no /dev/xvda1p1 or similar is created. There is neiter “partprobe” 
nor “kpartx” in the Debian installation image (It's a custom netboot 
loaded from GRUB rather than through PXE as described in 
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Remote, with some additional 
tinkering).


I have also tried to create a LVM physical volume with no partitions, 
This fails in the step “Installing GRUB”. How can I install Debian with 
LVM over this pathological setup?.


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Re: Understanding DNS, Create an Failover

2014-10-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Florian Weimer a écrit :
 
 Basti asked about resolvers

I am not sure about this. IMO it requires clarification.


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Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, lee wrote:
 As to package management: When you don't have a software installed,
 other software you have installed shouldn't depend on the software you
 don't have installed when the installed software doesn't use the
 software which is not installed.

Except that it the software does depend on the shared library being
installed. Binaries which link against shared libraries must have the
shared library present to run. Otherwise they have a linker failure, and
never start running in the first place.

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Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:56:25 +0100 Siard sent:

 I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages)
 and voilà: all dependencies were neatly solved.

Thank you, I have to be honest, I was a bit wary about doing that, so
didn't try it.

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Re: Missing Changelog for Iceweasel/xulrunner wheezy repo

2014-10-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 29 oct 14, 15:38:36, James Davis wrote:
 Apologies if this is the wrong mailing list, I wasn't sure of where would
 be most appropriate.
 
debian-www, but...

 This is only a minor issue, but the packages for the current iceweasel
 package 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 and xulrunner in wheezy appear to be missing
 both their changelog and copyright file as pointed to by debian packages at:
 
 http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1_changelog
 
 and
 
 http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1_copyright
 
 I assume the appropriate file has just gone awry for some reason (I imagine
 it's automated but perhaps something was overlooked?)

See #490848 (and friends):
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=490848

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Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 30 oct 14, 07:52:37, Charlie wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:56:25 +0100 Siard sent:
 
  I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages)
  and voilà: all dependencies were neatly solved.
 
 Thank you, I have to be honest, I was a bit wary about doing that, so
 didn't try it.

The '-f' is not short for '--force', but '--fix-broken' ;)

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Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

2014-10-29 Thread Paul Duncan

Hi Don,

Only just seen this!

On 27/10/14 15:31, Don Armstrong wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Paul Duncan wrote:

Thanks very much for that. Purging exim4-config and then doing a complete
apt-get install of exim4 did the trick :-)

For the record, you don't need to purge and reinstall to get back
configuration files you may have accidentally deleted.

Just use:

UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=true apt-get -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' 
reinstall foopkg;
Well, if I ever mess things up again like that, I will try your solution 
- I'll file this message away :-)


Cheers!

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Re: Understanding DNS, Create an Failover

2014-10-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:41:15 +0100
Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote:

  If the DNS information does not change frequently, then you can make
  the changes to both databases manually. You may be able to just copy
  the zone files, I'm not sure, but you will need to update the serial
  numbers.
 
 Basti asked about resolvers, you are talking about authoritative
 servers.
 

I understood from this...

 For understanding:
 Is the secondary DNS just a backup of the Master for
 loadBalancing?
 What does the secondary DNS do if master is down?

...that he was also asking about the behaviour of multiple DNS servers.

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Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/10/14 07:52, Charlie wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:56:25 +0100 Siard sent:
 
 I followed apt's advice to try 'apt-get -f install' (without packages)
 and voilà: all dependencies were neatly solved.
 
 Thank you, I have to be honest, I was a bit wary about doing that, so
 didn't try it.

Wise to be wary, however you can test the outcome before committing the
change using the simulate switch:-

apt-get -sf install | more

If it looks like it won't shoot-foot then proceed with:-

apt-get -f install

 
 Charlie
 

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Re: packages.debian.org

2014-10-29 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, 

On Wed Oct 29, 2014 at 06:31:04 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:01:45PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
  On Tue Oct 28, 2014 at 22:55:44 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
   Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:25:01 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 25 oct 14, 20:31:25, Mechtilde wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm missing update of the package information
 
 Many packages are updated these days before the freeze but the website
 named above didn't show the newest versions.

Can you point to some specific examples?
   
   https://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sogo-connector.html
   reported in 
   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-dutch/2014/10/msg00100.html
   at Sun, 26 Oct 2014 00:41:21 +0200
   
   Meanwhile it is fixed.
   
   Not by me.
   
   This posting is to tell that it is fixed
   and that I missed a message about it.
 
 Okay, now there is more information what is going on
 and what what could/should be do, which is good.
 
 
   A short 'done' or 'fixed' in response to the original posting
   would have said it has been handled, thanks for reporting.
   And would made it possible to close this thread,
   to allow us to work other Debian stuff we care about.
   
  
  
  no, it is not fixed. 
  
  /usr/bin/perl -w ./bin/parse-translations --english-only currently
  hangs. When i kill this process, the rest of the packages cronjob parts
  run fine after that and update the website. If someone can find out why
  parse-translations hangs, that would be very helpful.
 
 
 I have seen the request for help. What I not can see is if it only
 involves getting familiar with the website build process
 or it also needs getting access to the server where it runs.
 
 In other words: When someone steps forward, what are his / her chances
 to make a contribution?

this needs to be fixed on picconi.debian.org (packages-master).

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Re: Fork debian als systemd? (rant waarschuwing)

2014-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:08:24PM +0200, Winfried Tilanus wrote:
 Wat mij echter het meeste stoort is de houding van: doe wat we zeggen
 of we forken Debian, waarbij het dreigen met forken voorop staat. Ik
 ben dergelijk stampvoet-gedrag vooral van mijn kinderen gewend. De
 discussie over systemd is al veel eerder gevoerd en heeft een ander
 besluit opgeleverd. Als je met (heel) goede argumenten komt het besluit
 terug te draaien, dan vind ik het prima om die discussie over te doen.
 Als je gaat jengelen als een kind, dan kan ik dat niet echt serieus
 nemen. Sterker nog, ik vind ik deze site een prima reden om de overstap
 naar systemd door te zetten. Wordt volwassen of laat je behandelen als
 een kind.

Hehe.

Helaas is het zo dat de systemd discussie redelijk grote vormen aan
het aannemen is onder bepaalde groeperingen. De engelstalige -user zit
momenteel vol met mensen die er alleen maar over willen zeuren.

Nu ja.

Forken is een basisrecht in de open source wereld: Ubuntu is een
Debian-fork, Linux Mint is een Ubuntu-fork, MATE is een Gnome-fork,
avconv is een ffmpeg-fork, Joomla is een Mambo-fork, en zo kan je nog
wel even doorgaan. Daar is niks mis mee; als mensen Debian willen forken
om niet met systemd te moeten omgaan, dan moeten ze dat vooral doen.

Of ze succes gaan hebben kan ik niet vertellen, maar dat zien we later
wel.

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Re: Fork debian als systemd? (rant waarschuwing)

2014-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:12:28PM +0200, Huub Reuver wrote:
 Systemd is noodzakelijk als je gebruik wilt maken van instances als 
 security mechanisme. Systemd zit nu al zo diep verankert in Debian dat een 
 installatie zonder systemd onmogelijk is.

Let op: het systemd package zal je systeem niet naar systemd migreren,
alleen het systemd-sysv package doet dat. Net zoals bij heel veel
dingen in Debian is het zo dat systemd libraries standaard
ingecompileerd worden waar dat mogelijk is, wat tot gevolg heeft dat
bepaalde _delen_ van systemd inderdaad op elk systeem geïnstalleerd
moeten worden, zelfs wanneer je dat niet gebruikt; twee voorbeelden van
zo'n dingen zijn die ik me direct voor de geest kan halen zijn
libselinux en libkrb5.

Het is nog steeds mogelijk om Debian te draaien zonder systemd, en dat
zal voor jessie niet veranderen, om de simpele reden dat anders updates
moeilijk worden. Wat de situatie na jessie betreft, daar is nog geen
beslissing over genomen (daar is het ook te vroeg voor).

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