Re: (FUERA DE TEMA) Lo del admin despedido

2015-03-16 Thread Flako
   Yo trabajo de administradores de sistemas o sysadmin...

Y lo que cuentas  Altair es el riesgo de cualquier empleado
enojado y con bajo nivel de ética.. o mala persona, no solo sucede
en los sysadmin... en cualquier empleado que tenga algo de poder para
hacer danio... (un mecánico/empleados colocándole azúcar al tanque de
nafta yo lo escuchado del mismo empleado...)

Y como te dicen lo que esta haciendo el delincuente es extorsión..
y mal hecha  porque fácilmente lo podes denunciar...

Pregunta, 900 son euros? dolares? porque si son esos, aca en
argentina son como 10.000 pesos... y es muy poca plata!
Por otro lado con que explicación le bajan el sueldo? haca en
argentina te podes dar por despedido y te tienen que indemnizar si te
bajan el sueldo..


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A discussion on this list a few ago

2015-03-16 Thread Paul E Condon
I remember reading a thread on this list in which OP was asking about
software that would tag files on his computer, text files, pictures,
emails, etc. All sorts of thing, automatically so that he, or maybe she
could find retrieve things that are stored on it. I remember someone
suggesting a computer program that was already packaged and a .deb.
I want to look at that .deb, but I can't remember its name, precisely
the problem for which the .deb was designed and implemented. Does anyone
reading this remember the discussion that I'm describing, and the name
of the .deb? Please help be find it.

Thanks,
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Re: A discussion on this list a few ago

2015-03-16 Thread Alexis


On 2015-03-17T13:42:25+1100, Paul E Condon 
pecon...@mesanetworks.net said:


PEC I remember reading a thread on this list in which OP was 
asking PEC about software that would tag files on his computer, 
text files, PEC pictures, emails, etc. All sorts of thing, 
automatically so that PEC he, or maybe she could find retrieve 
things that are stored on PEC it. I remember someone suggesting 
a computer program that was PEC already packaged and a .deb.  I 
want to look at that .deb, but I PEC can't remember its name, 
precisely the problem for which the PEC .deb was designed and 
implemented. Does anyone reading this PEC remember the 
discussion that I'm describing, and the name of the PEC .deb? 
Please help be find it.


Was it `tmsu`?

http://tmsu.org/


Alexis.


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Re: A discussion on this list a few ago

2015-03-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul E Condon wrote:
 I remember reading a thread on this list in which OP was asking about
 software that would tag files on his computer, text files, pictures,
 emails, etc. All sorts of thing, automatically so that he, or maybe she
 could find retrieve things that are stored on it. I remember someone
 suggesting a computer program that was already packaged and a .deb.
 I want to look at that .deb, but I can't remember its name, precisely
 the problem for which the .deb was designed and implemented. Does anyone
 reading this remember the discussion that I'm describing, and the name
 of the .deb? Please help be find it.

It was this discussion thread starting here:

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/03/msg00080.html

Bob


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Joris Bolsens
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On 03/16/2015 02:59 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:23:43 -0700, Joris Bolsens wrote:
 
 [snip...] I'm assuming they moved it to here: 
 https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-

 
and-mysql
 
 
 
 Yup, that's the one.  Gonna have to update my link then (wrote the
 note in 2014, didn't think to check it before posting, sorry)
 
 
 
just a quick question, if I get an ssl cert for mail.mydomain.com does
that mean my email addresses all have to be u...@mail.mydomain.com or
does that just mean that the mail server listens on mail.mydomain.com?

Thanks,
~Joris
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Servicio DHCP en Debian

2015-03-16 Thread Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez
Les comparto una nueva sesión, en el cual se hablara sobre DHCP y como 
configurarlo en un servidor Debian.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLcPK3h0D7DZVICmZZWECc6L0-9nrGxg

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Re: Problema con gnome

2015-03-16 Thread Juan Lavieri
Hola.


El 16 de marzo de 2015, 16:48, Paradix ;) rayn...@infomed.sld.cu escribió:

 El 16/03/15 a las 12:17, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
  me llegó por error al correo privado
 
  El lun, 16-03-2015 a las 11:18 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió:
 
  ejecuta: glxinfo | head
 
  deberías ver esta línea para que te funcione la aceleración 3d que
  necesita gnome para no andar en modo fallback
  direct rendering: Yes
 
 
  gracias gonzalo, pero no es lo que busco. Te explico, sucede que puedo
  trabajar sin problemas en gnome, pero cuando entro en gnome clásico (lo
  que yo entiendo como fallback, a lo mejor estoy equivocando términos y
  lo que yo digo fallback debería entenderse como gnome clásico) me sale
  un mensaje diciendo que ha ocurrido un problema cuya única solución es
  salir de sesión.
 
  Lo que me molesta es que no puedo ver en que parte casca, ni en dmesg y
  en /var/log no veo ningún log q pueda estar relacionado con gnome.
  Reinstale todo lo relacionado con este modo de gnome pero me sigue dando
  ese problemita
 
 
  fijate en ~/.xsessions_errors tal vez encuentres algo
 

 Gonzalo, ya resolvi el problema ..

 tal vez fui demasiado drástico, tome mi .config y le cambie el nombre y
 el sistema generó uno nuevo y fue como he podido entrar a gnome clásico
 y me aparecen todo lo que me debía aparecer en gnome shell


​Respecto a las aplicaciones que dices que no teparecen en gnome-shell, si
están solo que no se ordenan como antes.  Si quieres algo mas clásico
dale un vistazo a esta extensión;

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/

​




 como conserve el viejo .config fui copiando de uno en uno hace el
 .config nuevo a ver donde petaba ... y fue en el directorio menus

 bueno, al menos resolvi algo ... gracias por tu ayuda

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 Haciendo abogacía por el software libre adonde voy



​Saludos.


error: SSH2 library not found

2015-03-16 Thread Keppler

Olá pessoal!
Alguém pode me dar uma ajudinha nisso?

Estou tentando instalar o Zabbix, mas ao compilar, está aparecendo o 
seguinte erro: _*configure: error: SSH2 library not found*_
Pesquisando no Google, muitos mencionaram que para resolver isto bastava 
instalar os pacotes: _*libssh2-1*_, _*libssh2-1-dev*_ e _*libssh2-php*_.


Bem...instalei e ainda continua o erro.

Alguém pode me sabe o que acontece?

PS: Estou rondando o Debian-7.

Grato,
Keppler



Re: locale problems

2015-03-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Frank wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
cat /etc/default/locale
 
 root@frank-debian:/home/frank# cat /etc/default/locale
 #LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 
 Unexpected..I thought it would be empty ?

For whatever reason the locales package postinst script simply
comments out the lines it manages there.  I don't know why.

I realized I should have said something else too.  Let me fix that and
say it now.

The /etc/default/locale sets the system's default locale.  All of the
boot time init scripts use it.  But PAM also uses it.  PAM is the
Plugable Auth Modules.  Meaning that it also sets the locale for users
when they log in.  However users that care can also set their locale
themselves too.  Layers and layers and PAM is almost he lowest layer
when logging in.

LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in your environment will tell X terminals that they
should configure themselves for UTF-8 character sets.  Umlauts and
accents and all of those.  And other things.  That should be the
default these days.  But I fear that I may have led you to not have
LANG set in your normal desktop environment now.  Because I always set
it myself and then also set LC_COLLATE too so that I get a sane sort
order and therefore didn't think of it.

  export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  export LC_COLLATE=C

If, and only if, you don't have LANG set anymore due to these actions
then you will probably want them.  Probaby the easiest for you is to
put those two lines in your ~/.xsessionrc file that you would need to
create.  If you log into systems using ssh then ~/.profile.

Bob


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Re: Problema con gnome

2015-03-16 Thread Juan Lavieri
Hola.

El 16 de marzo de 2015, 20:36, Paradix ;) rayn...@infomed.sld.cu escribió:

 El 16/03/15 a las 20:29, Juan Lavieri escribió:
  Hola.
 
 
  El 16 de marzo de 2015, 16:48, Paradix ;) rayn...@infomed.sld.cu
  mailto:rayn...@infomed.sld.cu escribió:
 
  El 16/03/15 a las 12:17, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
   me llegó por error al correo privado
  
   El lun, 16-03-2015 a las 11:18 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió:
  
   ejecuta: glxinfo | head
  
   deberías ver esta línea para que te funcione la aceleración 3d
 que
   necesita gnome para no andar en modo fallback
   direct rendering: Yes
  
  
   gracias gonzalo, pero no es lo que busco. Te explico, sucede que
 puedo
   trabajar sin problemas en gnome, pero cuando entro en gnome
 clásico (lo
   que yo entiendo como fallback, a lo mejor estoy equivocando
 términos y
   lo que yo digo fallback debería entenderse como gnome clásico) me
 sale
   un mensaje diciendo que ha ocurrido un problema cuya única
 solución es
   salir de sesión.
  
   Lo que me molesta es que no puedo ver en que parte casca, ni en
 dmesg y
   en /var/log no veo ningún log q pueda estar relacionado con gnome.
   Reinstale todo lo relacionado con este modo de gnome pero me
 sigue dando
   ese problemita
  
  
   fijate en ~/.xsessions_errors tal vez encuentres algo
  
 
  Gonzalo, ya resolvi el problema ..
 
  tal vez fui demasiado drástico, tome mi .config y le cambie el
 nombre y
  el sistema generó uno nuevo y fue como he podido entrar a gnome
 clásico
  y me aparecen todo lo que me debía aparecer en gnome shell
 
 
  ​Respecto a las aplicaciones que dices que no teparecen en gnome-shell,
  si están solo que no se ordenan como antes.  Si quieres algo mas
  clásico dale un vistazo a esta extensión;
 
  https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/
 

 hola juan  luego del tratamiento drástico ya me aparece todo lo q
 debe aparecer en gnome shell


​A mi me sucedió una vez así, pero recordé la solución que le di, cuando tu
la mencionaste.

Respecto a las aplicaciones, pensé que te referías al hecho de que
gnome-shell ya no presenta los menúes clásicos;  de todos modos hay
extensiones para todo.  Bueno al menos te quedó el enlace.

Muchos Saludos.​





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Re: error: SSH2 library not found

2015-03-16 Thread Tiago Rocha

Caro Keppler,

Se você precisa apenas para usar em produção eu recomendo adicionar o 
repositório do zabbix.com(tipo instalando esse pacote 
http://repo.zabbix.com/zabbix/2.4/debian/pool/main/z/zabbix-release/zabbix-release_2.4-1+wheezy_all.deb).


Agora se você está desenvolvendo zabbix eu não vou saber lhe ajudar, mas 
gostaria de lhe agradecer por estar ajudando a melhorá-lo ainda mais, 
pois estou usando o zabbix e acho que é uma excelente ferramenta.=)



On 16-03-2015 23:32, Keppler wrote:

Olá pessoal!
Alguém pode me dar uma ajudinha nisso?

Estou tentando instalar o Zabbix, mas ao compilar, está aparecendo o
seguinte erro: _*configure: error: SSH2 library not found*_
Pesquisando no Google, muitos mencionaram que para resolver isto bastava
instalar os pacotes: _*libssh2-1*_, _*libssh2-1-dev*_ e _*libssh2-php*_.

Bem...instalei e ainda continua o erro.

Alguém pode me sabe o que acontece?

PS: Estou rondando o Debian-7.

Grato,
Keppler



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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-16 Thread Gary Dale

On 16/03/15 12:37 PM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 16 Mar 2015 at 10:46:25 -0500, David Wright wrote:


Quoting James (bjloc...@lockie.ca):


You can't telnet to an ssl port.
Use:
openssl s_client -connect [IP]:smtps

I'm sorry if I muddied the waters by suggesting using telnet.
I find it a useful tool to quickly test whether I can reach a port,
whether anything is listening, and whether the response is the same as
I got last time/when things were working, even if that response is
to connect for a few seconds and then disconnect (like 80 does).
And I can get the results from ten differnet ports in one screenful
of text.

A slight mistake; but now the OP is back on the right track all he
should have to do is issue the helo, mail from:, rcpt to: and data
commands to test whether sending mail is possible. If it is he can
then take a closer look at his exim setup.
OK, following the doc at http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mail.htm, I could 
enter:

HELO my domain
MAIL FROM account@mydomain

but things get interesting when I enter the rcpt to:

RCPT TO: g...@extremeground.com
RENEGOTIATING
depth=2 C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST 
Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority

verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
verify return:0

After that, I can't enter DATA. It says 503 valid RCPT command must 
precede DATA


I've tried a few different RCPT TO: addresses but I get the same result. 
Also tried using the ISP's mail server's domain in the HELO with the 
same results.


I tried creating a local certificate and updating the 
exim4.conf.template with MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = yes but that didn't help either.



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[OT] Convenios laborales en Argentina (era: Consulta)

2015-03-16 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:50:19 -0300, MARCELO IGNACIO nigro escribió:

(ese html...)

 Hola un tema nada que ver con la lista. 

Pues entonces márcalo como OT.

 En argentina saben en que convenio laboral entra informatica 

Buscador de Convenios Colectivos de Trabajo 
https://convenios.trabajo.gob.ar/ConsultaWeb/Aviso.asp

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Re: Consulta

2015-03-16 Thread Alexis Saucedo
Marce deberias consultar en el polo tecnologico de tu ciudad si es que
esta constituido.

2015-03-16 10:21 GMT-03:00 Ricardo Eureka! ricardoeur...@gmail.com:
 Tengo entendido que en ninguno de manera general, depende lo que cada
 empresa decida.

 2015-03-16 9:50 GMT-03:00 MARCELO IGNACIO nigro elcap...@gmail.com:

 Hola un tema nada que ver con la lista. En argentina saben en que convenio
 laboral entra informatica




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Re: Problema con gnome

2015-03-16 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El lun, 16-03-2015 a las 09:38 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió: 
 Saludos lista
 
 Como dije anteriormente (con el tema de /usr llena el cual
 afortunadamente ya se soluciono ... en parte porque aunque he liberado
 espacio todavía me parece excesiva la cantidad de 7.6 G q esta ocupado
 aun, pero entre aptitude/synaptic y deborphan voy liberando el buque)
 hace poco actualice de squeeze a wheezy y estoy presentando un pequeño
 problema ahora con gnome en el modo fallback .. cada vez que inicio
 sesión en modo fallback me aparece un mensaje de error (hay un problema
 ... o algo así) y la única opción que me da es de salir de la sesión ...
 
 A raíz de esto he tenido q instalar xfce para poder trabajar porque con
 gnome3 se me hace un poco difícil ... no me muestra las aplicaciones,
 supongo sea porque me falta algo por instalar. No encuentro solución al
 tema de gnome fallback porque no se por donde mirar, en /var/log no veo
 ninguno q tenga q ver con gnome (de gnome lo unico q tengo es gdm3/) ...
 si a alguien le ha sucedido algo similar por favor que diga que via uso
 para resolverlo
 
 Xaire
 
 
 -- 
 Paradix  ;)
 
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ejecuta: glxinfo | head

deberías ver esta línea para que te funcione la aceleración 3d que
necesita gnome para no andar en modo fallback 
direct rendering: Yes

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Re: Insert a script into systemd boot order at a specific location

2015-03-16 Thread Christoph Pleger
Hello,

 What you probably want, is hook into basic.target or sysinit.target, use
 DefaultDependencies=no, and specify the dependencies/orderings
 explicitly.

a post from debian-user-ger...@lists.debian.org helped me further: I do
not have to change anything, just calling update-rc.d for my init script
works, just like it did before in wheezy. I had read that systemd supports
LSB init scripts, but i did not expect that this compatibility goes so
far.

But there is still one problem: The output of my script is not displayed
on the screen.

Regards
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Re: Consulta

2015-03-16 Thread Ricardo Eureka!
Tengo entendido que en ninguno de manera general, depende lo que cada
empresa decida.

2015-03-16 9:50 GMT-03:00 MARCELO IGNACIO nigro elcap...@gmail.com:

 Hola un tema nada que ver con la lista. En argentina saben en que convenio
 laboral entra informatica




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Problema con gnome

2015-03-16 Thread Paradix ;)
Saludos lista

Como dije anteriormente (con el tema de /usr llena el cual
afortunadamente ya se soluciono ... en parte porque aunque he liberado
espacio todavía me parece excesiva la cantidad de 7.6 G q esta ocupado
aun, pero entre aptitude/synaptic y deborphan voy liberando el buque)
hace poco actualice de squeeze a wheezy y estoy presentando un pequeño
problema ahora con gnome en el modo fallback .. cada vez que inicio
sesión en modo fallback me aparece un mensaje de error (hay un problema
... o algo así) y la única opción que me da es de salir de la sesión ...

A raíz de esto he tenido q instalar xfce para poder trabajar porque con
gnome3 se me hace un poco difícil ... no me muestra las aplicaciones,
supongo sea porque me falta algo por instalar. No encuentro solución al
tema de gnome fallback porque no se por donde mirar, en /var/log no veo
ninguno q tenga q ver con gnome (de gnome lo unico q tengo es gdm3/) ...
si a alguien le ha sucedido algo similar por favor que diga que via uso
para resolverlo

Xaire


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Re: Consulta

2015-03-16 Thread MARCELO IGNACIO nigro
Si algunos te ponen fuera de convenio. Y ahí fue
El mar 16, 2015 10:22 AM, Ricardo Eureka! ricardoeur...@gmail.com
escribió:

 Tengo entendido que en ninguno de manera general, depende lo que cada
 empresa decida.

 2015-03-16 9:50 GMT-03:00 MARCELO IGNACIO nigro elcap...@gmail.com:

 Hola un tema nada que ver con la lista. En argentina saben en que
 convenio laboral entra informatica




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Re: Consulta

2015-03-16 Thread Sergio Daniel Gomez

El 16/03/15 a las 09:50, MARCELO IGNACIO nigro escibió:

Hola un tema nada que ver con la lista. En argentina saben en que
convenio laboral entra informatica

Hasta hace un tiempo (unos años) solo había convenios no aplicables a 
todo el país, por lo que habría que ver mas en detalle tu caso, pero tal 
vez te sirve empezar por esta página de una unión de trabajadores 
http://www.utsasoftware.org.ar/

Saludos.


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RE: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Joris,

 I've got a smallish Debian server that I'm currently not really using for 
 anything.
 At the moment I have it as my own imagehost, general fileserver, vpn, and a 
 pastebin like thing.
 
 What are some cool/fun/weird things you use your servers for?

Ik have a server that I use for testing. Whem I am not using it for testing I 
run folding@home on it.
https://folding.stanford.edu/home/guide/linux-install-guide/


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Re: Overwrite kernel from installation ISO

2015-03-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Mar 2015 at 11:51:33 +0100, Pavlos Parissis wrote:

 I ran into this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=779922
 which prevents me to install latest debian using USB-stick method.
 
 In the bug report it was mentioned that using latest kernel works around
 the problem. But, I can't find a way to copy from another jessie system
 the latest kernel as the ISO on the stick is write-protected.
 
 Any ideas?
 I guess I could download again ISO, mount it, replace the kernel and
 recreate the ISO. But, I was thinking for a possible faster/easier solution.

The released images do not suffer from #779922. Using one of them is the
fastest and easiest route to installing the latest Debian.


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Re: Overwrite kernel from installation ISO

2015-03-16 Thread Pavlos Parissis
On 16/03/2015 12:18 μμ, Brian wrote:
 On Mon 16 Mar 2015 at 11:51:33 +0100, Pavlos Parissis wrote:
 
 I ran into this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=779922
 which prevents me to install latest debian using USB-stick method.

 In the bug report it was mentioned that using latest kernel works around
 the problem. But, I can't find a way to copy from another jessie system
 the latest kernel as the ISO on the stick is write-protected.

 Any ideas?
 I guess I could download again ISO, mount it, replace the kernel and
 recreate the ISO. But, I was thinking for a possible faster/easier solution.
 
 The released images do not suffer from #779922. Using one of them is the
 fastest and easiest route to installing the latest Debian.
 
 

Thanks for the tip, that was indeed the fastest and cleanest way to
resolve my issue.

Cheers,
Pavlos




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Consulta

2015-03-16 Thread MARCELO IGNACIO nigro
Hola un tema nada que ver con la lista. En argentina saben en que convenio
laboral entra informatica


Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-16 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le dimanche 15 mars 2015 à 22:52, mrr a écrit :
 On 03/14/2015 11:40 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
 Tout ce que je sais c'est que c'est une option qui existe en 4.9 et pas en 
 4.7.
 
 Je me demandais si cette histoire de version de gcc n'était pas une histoire
 de dépendance de compilation (c'est possible d'ailleurs?).

Oui c'est possible.

Dans le fichier « control » de Debian, on définit les dépendances du paquet
binaire (tag « Depends ») mais on peut aussi définir les dépendances de
construction (tag « Build-Depends »). Par exemple, pour dpkg :

https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/dpkg/dpkg.git/tree/debian/control

Mais on n'y voit pas de dépendance de construction sur gcc = 4.9… Bug dans le
paquet ?

Sébastien

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Unattended upgrades, how do stable et al work after upgrade?

2015-03-16 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
I can't understand how unattended upgrades continues to work after
Jessi is stable. In wheezy the config file has 

   origin=Debian,archive=stable,label=Debian-Security;
   origin=Debian,archive=oldstable,label=Debian-Security;

I don't want to upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie immediately when Jessie
is release. Sometime when version 8.1 or 8.2 comes might be a good
time to upgrade. Meanwhile I would like the unattended-upgrades to
keep Wheezy updated until I upgrade to Jessie. And I do not want
unattended-upgrades to start installing packages from Jessie. 

I read about the changes made after Squeeze which indicate this setup
does work in the above situation. But I do not understand how. 

Is there some mechanism that prevents updates from stable if the
distro codename is not the same as the installed distro? What happens
if there is wheezy-lts like there is now Squeeze Long Term Support
version. 

Would unattended-upgrades work, if I remove oldstable-lines and
replace every string stable with wheezy? And after upgrading to Jessie,
replace wheezy with jessie?

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Re: construire une série de paquets interdépendants

2015-03-16 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour,

Le samedi 14 mars 2015 à 23:53, mrr a écrit :
 xfce4-settings dépend de upower = 0.99 qui dépend de glib2.0 = 2.36 qui
 dépend de python = 2.7.5 qui dépend de dpkg = 1.17.11 et c'est là que le
 problème arrive car lors du configure il y a une erreur car le gcc 4.7 ne
 connait pas l'option stack-protector-strong donc il faudrait mettre gcc à 
 jour
 mais pour installer gcc 4.9 il faut dpkg-dev = 1.17.11 ...
 
 Peut être que tu serais gagnant à vérifier ton CFLAGS lors de la
 compilation, et virer le cas échéant cette option.
 Et vérifier le makefile.

J'ai déjà été confronté à ce problème d'option « stack-protector-strong »
non-disponible dans le GCC de Wheezy.

Plusieurs solutions :
- compiler GCC de Jessie pour Wheezy (mais ça va te conduire à recompiler la
  moitié de Debian, ce n'est sûrement pas ce que tu cherches…);
- désactiver l'option.

J'avais désactivé l'option. Par contre, je ne me souvient plus très bien à quel
endroit…

Peut-être qu'un grep dans l'arborescence de sources pourra t'aiguiller. Tu
trouveras peut-être des références dans les fichiers « Makefile » ou dans le
fichier « debian/rules ».

Sébastien

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Répondre à la liste dans mutt (Re: visio sous Jessie)

2015-03-16 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le samedi 14 mars 2015 à 23:12, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit :
 Et désolé pour la réponse perso, un r malencontreux à la place du L

Dans ma conf, j'ai mis un « folder-hook » qui modifie le comportement de la
touche « r » :
folder-hook .Listes 'macro index r list-reply; macro pager r list-reply'

Comme ça je n'ai pas à me préoccuper de quoi que ce soit, il le fait pour moi
;-)

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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting James (bjloc...@lockie.ca):

 You can't telnet to an ssl port.
 Use:
 openssl s_client -connect [IP]:smtps

I'm sorry if I muddied the waters by suggesting using telnet.
I find it a useful tool to quickly test whether I can reach a port,
whether anything is listening, and whether the response is the same as
I got last time/when things were working, even if that response is
to connect for a few seconds and then disconnect (like 80 does).
And I can get the results from ten differnet ports in one screenful
of text.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Battery performance predictor

2015-03-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:55:06AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
 Is there a good utility out there to predict the remaining
 running/charging time of my battery?
 
 For the remaining runtime most of the utilities out there seem to just
 divide the remaining capacity by the current power usage, which doesn't
 account for the fact that the current power usage may not be
 representative of the longer-term average (e.g. my power usage may
 switch regularly between 6W while editing a file (i.e. mostly idle) and
 15W while processing the result, neither of which is representative of
 the longer term average which may be something like 10W).
 
 So a good utility would need to monitor/learn your typical average usage,
 and remember it in some kind of file.
 
 For the remaining charge time the problem is fundamentally similar,
 tho details are quite different:
 - the charging rate changes over time (as the battery gets full, it
   charges more slowly).  So dividing the missing charge by the current
   rate is not a good predictor (as is often done).
 - the charging rate may also depend on the computer's own power usage
   (e.g. the sum of the power's own use and the battery's charging use
   may be bound by the power adapter's max power output).
 - sometimes reaching 100% of charge takes a long time, but reaching
   (say) 90% is much faster.
 So for the remaining charge time I might like to have a more detailed
 info, telling me (for example):
 - how much time remains before I get to 90% while I keep using the machine
 - how much time remains before I get to 90% if I put it to sleep
 - how much time remains before I get to 100% while I keep using the machine
 - how much time remains before I get to 100% if I put it to sleep
 And again, this info usually can't be just computed from current data,
 it instead needs to be learned by monitoring the system's behavior
 over time.

There's a great utility called ibam which pays attention to
the historical performance of your battery. The main benefit is if your
battery is dying and the last 10 or 20% only lasts a couple of
minutes, then the adjusted runtime takes this into account.

The package needs a bit of love (the best way to run it is to use the
gkrellm plugin - see bug 260530) but it might suit you.

 
 
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Re: Problema con gnome

2015-03-16 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
me llegó por error al correo privado

El lun, 16-03-2015 a las 11:18 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió: 
  
  ejecuta: glxinfo | head
  
  deberías ver esta línea para que te funcione la aceleración 3d que
  necesita gnome para no andar en modo fallback 
  direct rendering: Yes
  
 
 gracias gonzalo, pero no es lo que busco. Te explico, sucede que puedo
 trabajar sin problemas en gnome, pero cuando entro en gnome clásico (lo
 que yo entiendo como fallback, a lo mejor estoy equivocando términos y
 lo que yo digo fallback debería entenderse como gnome clásico) me sale
 un mensaje diciendo que ha ocurrido un problema cuya única solución es
 salir de sesión.
 
 Lo que me molesta es que no puedo ver en que parte casca, ni en dmesg y
 en /var/log no veo ningún log q pueda estar relacionado con gnome.
 Reinstale todo lo relacionado con este modo de gnome pero me sigue dando
 ese problemita
 

fijate en ~/.xsessions_errors tal vez encuentres algo

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Re: An odd warning message?

2015-03-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:42:50AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 Hi all,
 Going to ask about this on other lists, but thought I would check here.
 I use a shell service called shellworld.
 www.shellworld.net
 they also host my domain karenlewellen.com
 One of the many advantages is that I can ssh -l between both workspaces for
 tasks.
 However when I  tried doing this a few moments ago,
 ssh -l karen karenlewellen.com
 I got the message,
 warning permanently added to the dsa key for ip address address stated
 correctly for karenlewellen.com
 It then asked for my password as normal.
 I did not complete this ssh because of the warning.
 should I be concerned about the warning added to the shellworld ip address?
 the ip was stated correctly, I recognize it from other uses.

I suspect the warning you got was Permanently added 'karenlewellen.com'
(RSA) to the list of known hosts.

The typical sequence of events is that, when you connect to a machine,
SSH establishes a connnection and both sides exchange keys. You
authenticate to the server, but also the server authenticates itself to
you. The first time you connect, the key the server presents will be
unknown so you get a message like:

  The authenticity of host 'penguin.example.net' can't be established.
  DSA key fingerprint is 94:68:3a:3a:bc:f3:9a:9b:01:5d:b3:07:38:e2:11:0c.
  Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?

If you answer yes here, the key is cached (in ~/.ssh/known_hosts) and
you get the message:

  Warning: Permanently added 'penguin.example.net' (RSA) to the list of
  known hosts.

Now, if the key on the remote hosts changes (either because you
regenerated the host key on the server, or because you're connecting to
a different host - possibly not to your knowledge), then you get a big
warning saying 

@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@

However - and this is the part I'm not too sure on - if you connect to a
different host and receive a key you already know (for example, if the
host changes IP address), then I think SSH will do what you've seen:
warn you that it's using a key that you already trust to connect to a
different machine. This is only a warning. The chance of somebody being
able to reproduce your host key on a different machine are considered
slim.

In summary, your remote host's IP may have changed.

 Thanks,
 Karen
 
 
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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Mar 2015 at 10:46:25 -0500, David Wright wrote:

 Quoting James (bjloc...@lockie.ca):
 
  You can't telnet to an ssl port.
  Use:
  openssl s_client -connect [IP]:smtps
 
 I'm sorry if I muddied the waters by suggesting using telnet.
 I find it a useful tool to quickly test whether I can reach a port,
 whether anything is listening, and whether the response is the same as
 I got last time/when things were working, even if that response is
 to connect for a few seconds and then disconnect (like 80 does).
 And I can get the results from ten differnet ports in one screenful
 of text.

A slight mistake; but now the OP is back on the right track all he
should have to do is issue the helo, mail from:, rcpt to: and data
commands to test whether sending mail is possible. If it is he can
then take a closer look at his exim setup.


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Re: An odd warning message?

2015-03-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Mar 2015 at 16:08:07 +, Darac Marjal wrote:

 However - and this is the part I'm not too sure on - if you connect to a
 different host and receive a key you already know (for example, if the
 host changes IP address), then I think SSH will do what you've seen:
 warn you that it's using a key that you already trust to connect to a
 different machine. This is only a warning. The chance of somebody being
 able to reproduce your host key on a different machine are considered
 slim.
 
 In summary, your remote host's IP may have changed.

I think you are correct here. It is what happens here when the connection
is to an Amazon AMI which is on dynamic addressing.


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Dan Purgert
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:42:38 -0700, Joris Bolsens wrote:


 Confirming mail server will keep you busy - especially the initial
 configuration (there will be a lot of WTF, now what'd I do!? moments,
 if you're like me).
 
 But yeah, postfix + dovecot (or other sasl agent) is pretty 'secure' in
 terms of not getting blindly turned into a mail relay.  Throw
 spamassassin, greylists, and sieve scripts (server-side routing rules)
 on top of the basic configuration and you'll end up with a really nice
 MTA. I like mine better than gmail.
 Do you have any tutorials or something on how to setup spamassassin,
 greylists, and sieve scripts?

Honestly, I can't remember /where/ I got all the tutorials from.  Most of 
them were probably google for a bit, oh hey, that sounds promising.

Though, I have this page bookmarked; so it must've been something 
important when I was initially stumbling through things.

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_spam_postfix

 
 If you've got a need to reach it from anywhere, and don't necessarily
 always have a laptop, then adding a web MUA (such as horde) is another
 project.
 
 Horde's webmail looks pretty awesome, will definitely look into that.

Yeah, it's pretty nice (once you kick it a couple of times and get it 
playing nice with the server -- or maybe I'm just bad at following 
instructions :) ).  For mine, it even includes a mobile-friendly 
interface right out of the box; although it unfortunately doesn't include 
PGP or S/MIME support in that mode.  Desktop version does though, you 
just have to choose that instead when you log in.

Kind of a pain when I have to send mail from my phone (no one I know 
encrypts mail to me in the first place, so I can just use a generic mail 
app on said phone).  But honestly, I'm sending little enough mail from my 
mobile that I haven't bothered really digging into it and seeing about 
changing that.

 In either event, I strongly recommend that you purchase a certificate
 for mail.yourdomain.com, and use it.  It's overall easier (or at least
 in my experience, switching from the self-signed to the CA-signed cert
 made things easier).
 
 Where do you recommend I get one of these? I tried the startssl thing,
 but chrome still complains that its not legit.

I used the 60 (90?) day freebie one from comodo until purchasing one from 
them.  Biggest problem I ran into was needing to update one PCs root 
certificates.

Though you have to be specific -- if your server is server.yourdomain.com; 
but you're giving it the hostname mail.yourdomain.com for use with 
postfix/dovecot/horde, you've got to request the cert for 
mail.yourdomain.com.

Same goes for www or any other hostname / prefix that you want to use 
(unless you go with a wildcard, which is crazy expensive).


 Since it's remote, maybe a reverse ssh setup so you can get home?
 
 
 I know what those words mean,  but I have no idea what they mean when
 they are put in that order, care to elaborate? xD
 

A reverse SSH tunnel is a SSH tunnel that works in reverse -- i.e. 
you're making a connection from host1 to server that's intended to 
let host2 hop through, and get back to host1.

Let's say you're on a typical residential setup (DHCP), and your ISP has 
a REALLY terrible modem / router / firewall combo unit wherein you're 
unable to open ports or swap it over to bridge mode. So, even if you set 
up dyndns, you're not getting through your ISP crapbox.

So, you create a reverse ssh tunnel from your home desktop (or NAS, 
whatever) over to your AWS server (or whatever).

ssh -R :localhost:22 someuser@AWS_Server

This sets up a ssh tunnel from your AWS server to your box behind the 
crappy firewall on port .

So then to connect to it (say from your local starbucks)

1. ssh youruser@AWS_Server -- this logs you into the AWS server you have
2. ssh localhost -p  -- this connects you to the reverse tunnel back 
to your home PC / NAS / whatever.


I've actually used this a couple of times to help out family who I've 
upgraded to Linux -- put a shell script on their desktop named something 
like PC Help  which fires up the reverse SSH connection for them to my 
server, and I just keep a list of who's computers are on what ports.

I'm sure there are more automatic ways to get around it, but having it be 
something they have to click on works out better as it's easier to 
explain on the phone.



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Re: Battery performance predictor

2015-03-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 03/16/2015 at 11:55 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

 Is there a good utility out there to predict the remaining 
 running/charging time of my battery?
 
 For the remaining runtime most of the utilities out there seem to
 just divide the remaining capacity by the current power usage, which
 doesn't account for the fact that the current power usage may not be 
 representative of the longer-term average (e.g. my power usage may 
 switch regularly between 6W while editing a file (i.e. mostly idle)
 and 15W while processing the result, neither of which is
 representative of the longer term average which may be something like
 10W).
 
 So a good utility would need to monitor/learn your typical average
 usage, and remember it in some kind of file.

Try ibam, and (if you use gkrellm) gkrellm-ibam. I've been using them on
my laptop for a month or so now, and they seem like roughly what you're
looking for.

If you don't use the krell, you may need to read the documentation in
some detail and do manual configuration to get it checking your battery
state on a regular basis (and thus building a meaningful usage/charge
profile), but I believe it's doable.

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An odd warning message?

2015-03-16 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi all,
Going to ask about this on other lists, but thought I would check here.
I use a shell service called shellworld.
www.shellworld.net
they also host my domain karenlewellen.com
One of the many advantages is that I can ssh -l between both workspaces 
for tasks.

However when I  tried doing this a few moments ago,
ssh -l karen karenlewellen.com
I got the message,
warning permanently added to the dsa key for ip address address stated 
correctly for karenlewellen.com

It then asked for my password as normal.
I did not complete this ssh because of the warning.
should I be concerned about the warning added to the shellworld ip 
address?

the ip was stated correctly, I recognize it from other uses.
Thanks,
Karen


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RE: Consulta

2015-03-16 Thread Romero, Fernando
En Argentina no tenemos ni convenio colectivo de trabajo ni ningún gremio que 
nos ampare
Estamos a la buena de dios.

Saludos


 Mensaje original 
De: Sergio Daniel Gomez sergiogo...@tostado.com.ar
Fecha: 16/03/2015 10:57 (GMT-03:00)
A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: Consulta

El 16/03/15 a las 09:50, MARCELO IGNACIO nigro escibió:
 Hola un tema nada que ver con la lista. En argentina saben en que
 convenio laboral entra informatica

Hasta hace un tiempo (unos años) solo había convenios no aplicables a
todo el país, por lo que habría que ver mas en detalle tu caso, pero tal
vez te sirve empezar por esta página de una unión de trabajadores
http://www.utsasoftware.org.ar/
Saludos.


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Battery performance predictor

2015-03-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
Is there a good utility out there to predict the remaining
running/charging time of my battery?

For the remaining runtime most of the utilities out there seem to just
divide the remaining capacity by the current power usage, which doesn't
account for the fact that the current power usage may not be
representative of the longer-term average (e.g. my power usage may
switch regularly between 6W while editing a file (i.e. mostly idle) and
15W while processing the result, neither of which is representative of
the longer term average which may be something like 10W).

So a good utility would need to monitor/learn your typical average usage,
and remember it in some kind of file.

For the remaining charge time the problem is fundamentally similar,
tho details are quite different:
- the charging rate changes over time (as the battery gets full, it
  charges more slowly).  So dividing the missing charge by the current
  rate is not a good predictor (as is often done).
- the charging rate may also depend on the computer's own power usage
  (e.g. the sum of the power's own use and the battery's charging use
  may be bound by the power adapter's max power output).
- sometimes reaching 100% of charge takes a long time, but reaching
  (say) 90% is much faster.
So for the remaining charge time I might like to have a more detailed
info, telling me (for example):
- how much time remains before I get to 90% while I keep using the machine
- how much time remains before I get to 90% if I put it to sleep
- how much time remains before I get to 100% while I keep using the machine
- how much time remains before I get to 100% if I put it to sleep
And again, this info usually can't be just computed from current data,
it instead needs to be learned by monitoring the system's behavior
over time.


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OT: viquipedista

2015-03-16 Thread Blackhold
Hola,
Necessito que algun viquipedista es posi en contacte amb mi.

Moltes gràcies!


Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 16 March 2015 17:10:31 Joris Bolsens wrote:
 On 03/16/2015 03:44 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
  Ik have a server that I use for testing. Whem I am not using it for
  testing I run folding@home on it.
  https://folding.stanford.edu/home/guide/linux-install-guide/

 Really looking for something that I'll get utility out of, interesting
 idea though.

 I have installed and started it up.  So your post was not in vain, Bonno.

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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Joris Bolsens


On 03/16/2015 09:14 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
 
 --lots of snippage--
 
Thanks a ton, I will definitely look into all those things xD
I've got a few days to kill and an entire week off next week.


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Joris Bolsens


On 03/16/2015 03:44 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
 
 Ik have a server that I use for testing. Whem I am not using it for testing I 
 run folding@home on it.
 https://folding.stanford.edu/home/guide/linux-install-guide/
 
 
Really looking for something that I'll get utility out of, interesting
idea though.

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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:07:23 -0700, Joris Bolsens wrote:

 On 03/16/2015 09:14 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
 
 --lots of snippage--
 
 Thanks a ton, I will definitely look into all those things xD I've got a
 few days to kill and an entire week off next week.
 
 
 ~Joris

Good deal :)  

I found this one too.  It's specific to dovecot + mysql on linode boxes, 
but it should be relatively easy to sort through and work out for you (or 
at least easier than the postfix and dovecot manuals ... those are hardly 
light reading)

https://library.linode.com/email/postfix/postfix2.9.6-dovecot2.0.19-mysql

I believe they had several good tutorials for postfix, and may have 
actually been one of the primary sources I used to get it working at 
first.


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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Joris Bolsens
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On 03/16/2015 10:27 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:

 Good deal :)
 
 I found this one too.  It's specific to dovecot + mysql on linode
 boxes, but it should be relatively easy to sort through and work
 out for you (or at least easier than the postfix and dovecot
 manuals ... those are hardly light reading)
 
 https://library.linode.com/email/postfix/postfix2.9.6-dovecot2.0.19-mysql

  I believe they had several good tutorials for postfix, and may
 have actually been one of the primary sources I used to get it
 working at first.
 
 
Awesome! that looks great, I'm gonna get started on this right away :p

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Re: Insert a script into systemd boot order at a specific location

2015-03-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.03.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Christoph Pleger:
 Hello,
 
 What you probably want, is hook into basic.target or sysinit.target, use
 DefaultDependencies=no, and specify the dependencies/orderings
 explicitly.
 
 a post from debian-user-ger...@lists.debian.org helped me further: I do
 not have to change anything, just calling update-rc.d for my init script
 works, just like it did before in wheezy. I had read that systemd supports
 LSB init scripts, but i did not expect that this compatibility goes so
 far.
 
 But there is still one problem: The output of my script is not displayed
 on the screen.

I suggest getting it from the journal:

journalctl -u your_service.service
where your_service means /etc/init.d/your_service



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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Joris Bolsens


On 03/16/2015 02:59 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
Well you were definitely correct in that this will keep me busy for
awhile, can't get thunderbird to connect properly.

I have verified that the SSL cert is good (got one from comodo) followed
instruction to the letter and checked to make sure that all users/pass
are set correctly in DB. Here is what I see in

mail.log:
Mar 17 05:08:11 hawk961 dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.7 starting up
(core dumps disabled)
Mar 17 05:08:12 hawk961 postfix/master[2983]: daemon started -- version
2.9.6, configuration /etc/postfix
Mar 17 05:09:27 hawk961 postfix/smtpd[3092]: connect from
c-my-host-name[76.102.110.154]
Mar 17 05:09:27 hawk961 dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth
attempts in 1 secs): user=, rip=my.ip.addr, lip=srvr.ip.addr, TLS,
session=4BWJ+HQRhQBMZm6a
Mar 17 05:09:37 hawk961 postfix/smtpd[3092]: lost connection after
UNKNOWN from my-host-name.net[my.ip.addr]
Mar 17 05:09:37 hawk961 postfix/smtpd[3092]: disconnect from
my-host-name.net[76.102.110.154]
Mar 17 05:09:49 hawk961 dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth
attempts in 0 secs): user=, rip=my.ip.addr, lip=srvr.ip.addr, TLS,
session=nHnk+XQRiQBMZm6a


and mail.info:
 Mar 17 05:08:11 hawk961 dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.7 starting up
(core dumps disabled)
Mar 17 05:08:12 hawk961 postfix/master[2983]: daemon started -- version
2.9.6, configuration /etc/postfix
Mar 17 05:09:27 hawk961 postfix/smtpd[3092]: connect from
my.host.name.net[my.ip.addr]
Mar 17 05:09:27 hawk961 dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth
attempts in 1 secs): user=, rip=my.ip.addr, lip=srvr.ip.addr, TLS,
session=4BWJ+HQRhQBMZm6a
Mar 17 05:09:37 hawk961 postfix/smtpd[3092]: lost connection after
UNKNOWN from my.host.name.net[my.ip.addr]
Mar 17 05:09:37 hawk961 postfix/smtpd[3092]: disconnect from
my.host.name.net[my.ip.addr]
Mar 17 05:09:49 hawk961 dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth
attempts in 0 secs): user=, rip=my.ip.addr, lip=srvr.ip.addr, TLS,
session=nHnk+XQRiQBMZm6a
Mar 17 05:12:57 hawk961 postfix/anvil[3099]: statistics: max connection
rate 1/60s for (smtps:my.ip.addr) at Mar 17 05:09:27
Mar 17 05:12:57 hawk961 postfix/anvil[3099]: statistics: max connection
count 1 for (smtps:my.ip.addr) at Mar 17 05:09:27
Mar 17 05:12:57 hawk961 postfix/anvil[3099]: statistics: max cache size
1 at Mar 17 05:09:27

Been googling for hours and I cannot for the life of me find what the
problem is.
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Re: configuring exim4 smtp to use SSL

2015-03-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gary Dale (garyd...@torfree.net):
 On 16/03/15 12:37 PM, Brian wrote:
 On Mon 16 Mar 2015 at 10:46:25 -0500, David Wright wrote:
 
 Quoting James (bjloc...@lockie.ca):
 
 You can't telnet to an ssl port.
 Use:
 openssl s_client -connect [IP]:smtps
 I'm sorry if I muddied the waters by suggesting using telnet.
 I find it a useful tool to quickly test whether I can reach a port,
 whether anything is listening, and whether the response is the same as
 I got last time/when things were working, even if that response is
 to connect for a few seconds and then disconnect (like 80 does).
 And I can get the results from ten differnet ports in one screenful
 of text.
 A slight mistake; but now the OP is back on the right track all he
 should have to do is issue the helo, mail from:, rcpt to: and data
 commands to test whether sending mail is possible. If it is he can
 then take a closer look at his exim setup.
 OK, following the doc at http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mail.htm, I
 could enter:
 HELO my domain

I always use EHLO but have no idea if it makes a difference.

 MAIL FROM account@mydomain
 
 but things get interesting when I enter the rcpt to:
 
 RCPT TO: g...@extremeground.com

Shouldn't that be in  according to rfc2821?

 RENEGOTIATING
 depth=2 C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST
 Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
 verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
 verify return:0
 
 After that, I can't enter DATA. It says 503 valid RCPT command must
 precede DATA

Yes, until you see a 250 from RCPT TO: it hasn't been accepted.

 I've tried a few different RCPT TO: addresses but I get the same
 result. Also tried using the ISP's mail server's domain in the HELO
 with the same results.
 
 I tried creating a local certificate and updating the
 exim4.conf.template with MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = yes but that didn't help
 either.

I don't think those verify items above are necessarily a problem in themselves.
Your sequence of commands (with the changes I suggested) worked for me.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Unattended upgrades, how do stable et al work after upgrade?

2015-03-16 Thread Seeker



On 3/16/2015 3:57 AM, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:

I can't understand how unattended upgrades continues to work after
Jessi is stable. In wheezy the config file has

origin=Debian,archive=stable,label=Debian-Security;
origin=Debian,archive=oldstable,label=Debian-Security;

I don't want to upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie immediately when Jessie
is release. Sometime when version 8.1 or 8.2 comes might be a good
time to upgrade. Meanwhile I would like the unattended-upgrades to
keep Wheezy updated until I upgrade to Jessie. And I do not want
unattended-upgrades to start installing packages from Jessie.

I read about the changes made after Squeeze which indicate this setup
does work in the above situation. But I do not understand how.

Is there some mechanism that prevents updates from stable if the you
distro codename is not the same as the installed distro? What happens
if there is wheezy-lts like there is now Squeeze Long Term Support
version.

Would unattended-upgrades work, if I remove oldstable-lines and
replace every string stable with wheezy? And after upgrading to Jessie,
replace wheezy with jessie?

If you don't have any packages from oldstable, then you don't need a a 
line that will

try to pull in updates for oldstable.

Unless you have stuff in your 'sources.list' 'sources.list.d/files' I'm 
not seeing where

it's a requirement to specify which archives to pull from.

https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades

But if you do specify, it's the same as sources.list.

If you want to stick with stable, specify stable as the archive.
If you want to stick with wheezy, specify wheezy as the archive.

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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Joris Bolsens


On 03/16/2015 10:24 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 Been googling for hours and I cannot for the life of me find what the
 problem is.
 ~Joris
 

I can connect just fine to IMAP, it's SMTP that gives me issues.

the response when i EHLO the smtps delio i get;
joris@debian:~$ telnet mail.mydomain.com smtps
Trying srvr.ip.addr...
Connected to mydomain.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mail.mydomain.com ESMTP Postfix
EHLO mail.mydomain.com
250-mail.mydomain.com
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 1024
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8BITMIME
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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-16 Thread Felix Perez
El día 16 de marzo de 2015, 18:19, Juan Carlos Rebate
fhuv...@gmail.com escribió:
 en primer lugar yo no falte nunca el respeto a nadie ok? asi que eso
 te lo guardas para ti mismo, en segundo lugar este espécimen consiguió
 lo que se poponia gracias a la comunidad red hat y centos, en centos 7
 si se puede hacer, debian no proporciona buenos controladores y peor
 soporte.


Pues entonces que esperas y que haces aquí?
El respeto a las normas y a lo que te piden los que intentan ayudarte
es fundamental. Si no lo entiendes y más encima pretendes que los
demás deban adaptarse a tus condiciones pues problema tuyo y a
buscarte la vida.
Y ahora si última respuesta.

 El día 15 de marzo de 2015, 21:18, Felix Perez
 felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:


 El domingo, 15 de marzo de 2015, Juan Carlos Rebate fhuv...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Por favor no le den más bola a este espécimen.


 no no lo diste solo preguntaste que dirver cargaba

 2015-03-15 19:13 GMT+01:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
  El Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:57:58 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
 
  no necesito ayuda con eso, eso gmail no lo permite y ya,
 
  No, eso no es cierto.
 
  lo que pedi fue ayuda con el driver, si no tienen información diganlo y
  punto no pasa nada
 
  Ya te la di en otro hilo, hace días.
 
  Saludos,
 
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Re: error: SSH2 library not found

2015-03-16 Thread Leandro
Keppler,bom dia.

Tudo sussa?

Esse site deve ajudar da um look e posta se der certo.


http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=243793



Em 17 de março de 2015 00:10, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org
escreveu:

 Caro Keppler,

 Se você precisa apenas para usar em produção eu recomendo adicionar o
 repositório do zabbix.com(tipo instalando esse pacote
 http://repo.zabbix.com/zabbix/2.4/debian/pool/main/z/zabbix-
 release/zabbix-release_2.4-1+wheezy_all.deb).

 Agora se você está desenvolvendo zabbix eu não vou saber lhe ajudar, mas
 gostaria de lhe agradecer por estar ajudando a melhorá-lo ainda mais, pois
 estou usando o zabbix e acho que é uma excelente ferramenta.=)


 On 16-03-2015 23:32, Keppler wrote:

 Olá pessoal!
 Alguém pode me dar uma ajudinha nisso?

 Estou tentando instalar o Zabbix, mas ao compilar, está aparecendo o
 seguinte erro: _*configure: error: SSH2 library not found*_
 Pesquisando no Google, muitos mencionaram que para resolver isto bastava
 instalar os pacotes: _*libssh2-1*_, _*libssh2-1-dev*_ e _*libssh2-php*_.

 Bem...instalei e ainda continua o erro.

 Alguém pode me sabe o que acontece?

 PS: Estou rondando o Debian-7.

 Grato,
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Re: problema con driver wifi (actualizado)

2015-03-16 Thread Juan Carlos Rebate
en primer lugar yo no falte nunca el respeto a nadie ok? asi que eso
te lo guardas para ti mismo, en segundo lugar este espécimen consiguió
lo que se poponia gracias a la comunidad red hat y centos, en centos 7
si se puede hacer, debian no proporciona buenos controladores y peor
soporte.

El día 15 de marzo de 2015, 21:18, Felix Perez
felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:


 El domingo, 15 de marzo de 2015, Juan Carlos Rebate fhuv...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Por favor no le den más bola a este espécimen.


 no no lo diste solo preguntaste que dirver cargaba

 2015-03-15 19:13 GMT+01:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
  El Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:57:58 +0100, Juan Carlos Rebate escribió:
 
  no necesito ayuda con eso, eso gmail no lo permite y ya,
 
  No, eso no es cierto.
 
  lo que pedi fue ayuda con el driver, si no tienen información diganlo y
  punto no pasa nada
 
  Ya te la di en otro hilo, hace días.
 
  Saludos,
 
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Re: directories mounten als een andere gebruiker

2015-03-16 Thread Jan Claeys
Wouter Verhelst schreef op do 12-03-2015 om 20:53 [+0100]:
 Je zou het kunnen vervangen door een FUSE-bestandssysteem ofzo,
 vermoed ik.

http://bindfs.org/ ?

(packaged in Debian)


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Re: Problema con gnome

2015-03-16 Thread Paradix ;)
El 16/03/15 a las 12:17, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
 me llegó por error al correo privado
 
 El lun, 16-03-2015 a las 11:18 -0400, Paradix ;) escribió: 

 ejecuta: glxinfo | head

 deberías ver esta línea para que te funcione la aceleración 3d que
 necesita gnome para no andar en modo fallback 
 direct rendering: Yes


 gracias gonzalo, pero no es lo que busco. Te explico, sucede que puedo
 trabajar sin problemas en gnome, pero cuando entro en gnome clásico (lo
 que yo entiendo como fallback, a lo mejor estoy equivocando términos y
 lo que yo digo fallback debería entenderse como gnome clásico) me sale
 un mensaje diciendo que ha ocurrido un problema cuya única solución es
 salir de sesión.

 Lo que me molesta es que no puedo ver en que parte casca, ni en dmesg y
 en /var/log no veo ningún log q pueda estar relacionado con gnome.
 Reinstale todo lo relacionado con este modo de gnome pero me sigue dando
 ese problemita

 
 fijate en ~/.xsessions_errors tal vez encuentres algo
 

Gonzalo, ya resolvi el problema ..

tal vez fui demasiado drástico, tome mi .config y le cambie el nombre y
el sistema generó uno nuevo y fue como he podido entrar a gnome clásico
y me aparecen todo lo que me debía aparecer en gnome shell

como conserve el viejo .config fui copiando de uno en uno hace el
.config nuevo a ver donde petaba ... y fue en el directorio menus

bueno, al menos resolvi algo ... gracias por tu ayuda

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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:23:43 -0700, Joris Bolsens wrote:

[snip...]
 I'm assuming they moved it to here:
 https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-
and-mysql
 


Yup, that's the one.  Gonna have to update my link then (wrote the note 
in 2014, didn't think to check it before posting, sorry)



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Laptop met hoge resolutie scherm

2015-03-16 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hoi,

Ik moet voor een klant een laptop inrichten met HDPI scherm (erg hoge
resolutie dus). Dat had ik nog niet eerder gedaan. Het installeren ging
prima. Daarna was veel echter onleesbaar klein (2560x1440 op een 13
scherm).

Onderstaande is een ervaringsverhaal met Debian 8. Sommige dingen gaan
goed, andere nog wat minder.

In de grafische omgeving (Cinnamon) leek het wel aardig, maar sommige
programma's zoals Iceweasel en Chromium ondersteunen geen HDPI. Daarom
heb ik maar voor een lage resolutie gekozen. Dat ging goed en het beeld
is bleek scherp. Je moet na het wijzigen de desktop wel opnieuw starten,
anders zijn de letters van de desktop te groot (ze waren automatisch
aangepast voor HDPI).

Ik heb LightDM vervangen door GDM3, wat alles automatisch groter maakt
bij HDPI.

Grub en initramfs heb ik leesbaar gekregen met:
GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
GRUB_GFXMODE_LINUX=keep
in /etc/default/grub, met daarna een update-grub.
Daarna was grub groot en ook de meldingen van initramfs.

( Het is me niet helemaal duidelijk of je een update-initramfs -u of
zoiets moet draaien voordat het goed gaat in initramfs. Ik denk dat het
niet nodig is.)

Welke resoluties je mag gebruiken voor grub kun je zien met
hwinfo --framebuffer
tenminste als je het pakket hwinfo hebt geïnstalleerd.
Lang niet alle resoluties mogen, bij mij mocht er maar 1 breedbeeld
resolutie, en dat was 2560x1440, dus onleesbaar.

Verder heb ik ook /etc/default/console-setup gewijzigd. Ik heb daar daar
FONTSIZE=8x16 in FONTSIZE=16x32 gewijzigd. Dat zorgt er voor dat na
het draaien van /etc/init.d/console-setup start tijdens het booten de
letters leesbaar worden.

Ook bij een emergency mode die je krijgt bij een corrupt filesystem
zijn de letters dan leesbaar. Ik heb dat getest door in /etc/fstab een
partitie te mounten die niet bestaat, je komt dan na een reboot in die
emergency mode en moet daar /etc/fstab terug veranderen om uit de
problemen te komen.

Na initramfs zie ik nog wat kleine letters, dat begint met Loading
please wait. Als er een fsck gedraaid wordt, dan gebeurd dat vrijwel
onleesbaar klein. Dit is nog voor verbetering vatbaar, ik weet echter
niet hoe. GRUB_GFXMODE_LINUX geeft voor zover ik weet een resolutie aan
Linux door vergelijkbaar met de vga= parameter. Het schijnt o.a. met de
fase van de maan te maken te hebben zeggen ze in de grub manual ;-)
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/gfxpayload.html

Daarna worden de letters dus wel groot door console-setup, maar het gaat
normaal toch zo snel voorbij dat je het niet ziet.

Wat op het moment nog niet helemaal goed gaat is de resolutie in de
console, als je b.v. op ctrl-alt-F1 drukt. Wat ik nu maar voor nood doe
is setupcon zetten in /etc/rc.local, dat werkt.

Groet,
Paul.


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Re: hard-to-reproduce bugs (was: plugged in thumb drive, which disconnected another USB drive)

2015-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015, at 00:16, Mike Kupfer wrote:
 Chris Bannister wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 09:04:51AM -0700, Mike Kupfer wrote:
   - Do I need to have a reproducible test case before opening a bug?
  
  If it is not reproducible, then how does one go about fixing it?
 
 I deal with hard-to-reproduce bugs in my day job fairly frequently.
 Sometimes I'm able to suggest refinements to the test case to make the
 problem easier to reproduce.  Sometimes I can tell the submitter what
 additional information to gather the next time the problem occurs.
 Sometimes the bug report sits idle for awhile as I wait for additional
 reports and additional clues.  In theory I can provide a special debug
 binary in the hopes of getting more information, though in practice I
 can't remember the last time I did this.  Sometimes I just find where a
 particular message is generated and poke through the source code to see
 if any causes leap out at me.
 
 I don't mean to suggest that I expect Debian package maintainers to do
 all that.  I asked because I've had mixed results asking support
 questions on this list, and I'm not sure what the cultural norms are in
 Debian for filing a formal bug report.

Fair enough.  Anyway, in this specific case, it is likely caused by the
hardware layer: it really looks like what would happen if the IOMEGA
device was subject to a sudden and short-term power loss/drop for
whatever reason when you plugged the other USB device on the same hub.

I don't think it is worth reporting it as a kernel bug, unless you have
enough details to show it was bad behavior on the USB host side, or a
bug in the available power allocation done by the kernel before it
decides whether it can activate the new USB device endpoints or not.

Also, IMHO, you should get rid of that USB hub and connect important
devices directly to the motherboard USB ports, using a proper USB cable
(and finding a non-substandard USB cable might be more challenging than
expected).

I won't go into details unless people around here are very interested on
the specifics.   But since it starts with way too many USB devices and
cables do not implement the USB specification properly, and goes
downhill from there, it is not likely to be very helpful.

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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett

Joris Bolsens wrote:


On 03/16/2015 10:27 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:


Good deal :)

I found this one too.  It's specific to dovecot + mysql on linode
boxes, but it should be relatively easy to sort through and work
out for you (or at least easier than the postfix and dovecot
manuals ... those are hardly light reading)

https://library.linode.com/email/postfix/postfix2.9.6-dovecot2.0.19-mysql

  I believe they had several good tutorials for postfix, and may
have actually been one of the primary sources I used to get it
working at first.



Awesome! that looks great, I'm gonna get started on this right away :p

~Joris


You must live right, I repeatedly get a 404 error on that link.
However all not lost as https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix 
lists

several articles - the first applying to my preferred distro ;/



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Overwrite kernel from installation ISO

2015-03-16 Thread Pavlos Parissis
Hoi,

I ran into this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=779922
which prevents me to install latest debian using USB-stick method.

In the bug report it was mentioned that using latest kernel works around
the problem. But, I can't find a way to copy from another jessie system
the latest kernel as the ISO on the stick is write-protected.

Any ideas?
I guess I could download again ISO, mount it, replace the kernel and
recreate the ISO. But, I was thinking for a possible faster/easier solution.

Cheers,
Pavlos



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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 03/15/2015 02:26 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote:



You could give Proxmox a whirl!! Then install Turnkey Linux containers
to it. I'm a perfect idiot and had containers like Wordpress and
Owncloud running in no time. Since proxmox is headless, you need a
machine on the same localnet to ssh in to admin Proxmox. Then you admin
it through your browser with an https interface to load the containers.
Way cool. Ric
http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
https://www.proxmox.com/


Does turnkey do something or have some feature that docker does not?
seems pretty similar from just looking at the website.

Also I don't have physical access to the server, its a virtual server in
a data center near me so I don't think I can install that :/


Turnkey provides several hundred containers. Check them out at that 
link. Proxmox installs the manager (like Docker) so you ~usually~ would 
need access to the physical iron to install from scratch. It does use 
Debian Wheezy, so you might get by installing their apt/sources.list 
entries and try that. I haven't tried that method yet. Proxmox has been 
around for quite some time and it has devoted users. You can pay for 
support or use their beta program and have it for free. It is open 
source and GPL'd. After the install, it is admin'd remotely either with 
ssh directly or with an https front-end. It will run handily from one 
machine or a cluster of a thousand. The people who really dig down into 
it's innards are doing things like snapshots of ram. That stuff goes by 
me in both lanes. :) Ric




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Re: Cool things to do with server

2015-03-16 Thread Joris Bolsens
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On 03/16/2015 12:14 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
 Joris Bolsens wrote:
 
 On 03/16/2015 10:27 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
 
 Good deal :)
 
 I found this one too.  It's specific to dovecot + mysql on
 linode boxes, but it should be relatively easy to sort through
 and work out for you (or at least easier than the postfix and
 dovecot manuals ... those are hardly light reading)
 
 https://library.linode.com/email/postfix/postfix2.9.6-dovecot2.0.19-mysql



 
I believe they had several good tutorials for postfix, and may
 have actually been one of the primary sources I used to get it 
 working at first.
 
 
 Awesome! that looks great, I'm gonna get started on this right
 away :p
 
 ~Joris
 
 You must live right, I repeatedly get a 404 error on that link. 
 However all not lost as https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix
 lists several articles - the first applying to my preferred distro
 ;/
 
 
 
I'm assuming they moved it to here:
https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-and-mysql

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