minidebconf Lyon 11-12 avril (et minidebconf suivante)
Bonjour, Un mail rapide pour vous rappeler que la prochaine minidebconf France aura lieu à Lyon le week-end prochain, 11 et 12 d'avril. Le programme est disponible sur : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2015/Minidebconf#Talks_Schedule_.2F_Programme L'inscription dans le wiki n'est pas obligatoire mais recommandée. Je profite pour vous encourager à envoyer un Lightning talk : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2015/Minidebconf#Lightning_talks Et pour vous noter si vous souhaitez participer au dîner du conférence samedi : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2015/Minidebconf#Conference_dinner Si vous vous posez la question du lieu de la prochaine mini-debconf, il est temps de vous impliquer et l'organiser dans votre ville ! Ana -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150405200056.ga30...@pryan.ekaia.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ad7946c9-0099-47bf-8c97-4b79d9bcd...@tinet.cat
Re: Trailing ms at the end of every line when viewing man pages
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 04:01:10 -0400 (EDT), Bob Proulx wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: ... But when I issue the MAN command, I see lower-case ms at the end of each line. How does the terminal handle control-m carriage returns? Normally at the terminal will receive a CR-NL pair and will move the cursor left and then down. It seems likely those 'm's are CR characters. It would be good to verify that. $ printf This is a CR char: ==\r==\n If it is a normal terminal we would see this. Because the CR moves the cursor to the left and the next two == chars overwrite the Th of This. Then the newline is translated to a CR-NL pair and moves the cursor left and down. ==is is a CR char: == But if it is the CR chars producing the 'm' for you then it would print this: This is a CR char: ==m== Then at least you would know it is the CR that isn't handled like in a standard terminal. When I run the above test, I see ==is is a CR char: == as expected. That was my first thought too. But I only see these ms when viewing man pages. Standard Linux text files look fine when viewed natively in less. Something in man, or in something invoked under the covers by man, is responsible for these ms. I did discover that the ibm3151 terminal definition in ncurses falsely advertises support in the terminal for scrolling backward, which the 3151 does not, in reality, support. Therefore, I have switched to using ncurses terminal definition ibm3161 instead of ibm3151. The ibm3161 terminal definition does not advertise support for scrolling backward. The 3161 is the 3151's closest relative, and predecessor. I now get the message WARNING: terminal is not fully functional from less every time I invoke less, including when I invoke man. But I can overcome this with LESS=-h 0 -d export LESS Now I don't get the error message, and less uses screen repainting instead of backward scrolling when I press the b key in less. But man still shows those ms at the end of every line. -- .''`. Stephen Powellzlinux...@wowway.com : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1369962878.18732337.1428279239692.javamail.zim...@wowway.com
Re: Trailing ms at the end of every line when viewing man pages
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:59:49 -0400 (EDT), Paul E Condon wrote: Times change. If one waits even a short while, they can change a lot. When this terminal was new, a 'standard' terminal was a mechanical teletype manufactured by Teletype Corp. in Skokie, IL. The generic name for this 'terminal' was, I think, a 'glass teletype' Each computer company had its own special glass teletypes that interfaced to its computer. All proprietary. None of the glass teletypes had the very useful scroll back feature of the real teletype that they were trying to emulate. Teletype paper came in rolls. A single roll was a many meters long. It would pile up behind the teletype as one worked. It could always be pulled out and reviewed back to initial login at the beginning of the session. Some people left the paper behind for someone else to clear away. Others saved it, rolled up and labeled at their desks. It took 0.1 sec. to mechanically process one character, except for carriage return. That took up to 0.2 sec. The placement of the carriage return character before the non-printing line feed character allowed the carriage to get all the back to the left before a printing character arrived. It was in the design of teletype that this cr/lf feature was baked into our history. Interesting history, thank you. The IBM 3151 is a dumb terminal in the sense that it doesn't support scrolling backward. But my idea of a dumb terminal is a line-mode terminal, such as a mechanical teletype machine. The IBM 3151 is a full-screen terminal. You can run ncurses-based applications on it. You can use full-screen editors, such as vi. It supports high-intensity, underscore, blinking, and reverse video, though it does not support color. It supports clearing the screen. (It is a non-standard clear code, so the standard code used by (a)getty does not clear the screen. But the clear command works.) None of these things can be done on a line-mode (dumb) terminal, such as a mechanical teletype machine. It is more than a glass teletype. -- .''`. Stephen Powellzlinux...@wowway.com : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/147246682.18737453.1428280689780.javamail.zim...@wowway.com
Re: Icedove stopped sending and receiving e-mail
On 05/04/15 03:23 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:44:34 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: I've just had a rather bad time with my Debian/Jessie AMD64 system. I had to reset it yesterday after a hardware-related lockup (it doesn't like my optical drive connected to an add-in PCIe SATA card - usually freezes after writing an ISO image to DVD). The lockup wouldn't respond to sysrq so I needed the reset button. Trying to get back up was painful. I finally got it back by reverting to SysV Init, which fortunately was an option on the Grub menu. However now that it's running, I'm having a weird problem with Icedove. I can't receive e-mail on any of the accounts it's configured to check. Moreover, I have three accounts that it's not showing the inbox, etc. for. These are all configured for pop e-mail and the e-mail folders are all on a single NFS share that is also used by the accounts that are showing the inboxes, etc.. The e-mail in the folders that I can see are complete - back to the time the machine froze, but nothing since. Interestingly, when I try to Get Messages on an account, I get the status bar message e-mail account: Connected to pop server name. I tried uninstalling and re-installing Icedove but nothing changed. I can access the accounts via their web-mail interfaces. I tried sending this message via Icedove but it failed to send. I just get the sending message box and status bar. Any ideas? I don't know if it will help you, but it is possible that somehow your Icedove configuration has become corrupted - have you tried moving it out of the way so Icedove can't find it, before starting Icedove and setting it up again? I don't use Icedove, but I just installed it to see what it creates, and I would move at least ~/.cache/icedove and ~/.mozilla out of the way. Just a suggestion. Petter Thanks Peter. I've just got it back working. The issue that was causing the systemd init to fail was that it was looking for an external (USB interface) drive with the wrong drive letter. When I fixed that, it was able to boot normally again. With the systemd init, Icedove started working again. I'm going to switch the external drive to use UUID or a disk label instead of the drive letter and that should be a permanent fix. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5521b320.8080...@torfree.net
Re: e2fsck.conf and ssh_known_hosts: where?
While attempting to debug a flaky HDD under Jessie, I had occasion to
inspect the conf file /etc/e2fsck.conf, and found that it doesn't
exist on any of my computers. But the man e2fsck mentions file
e2fsck.conf and man e2fsck.conf states that the default location is
/etc/e2fsck.conf . Has support for site specific configuration been
abandoned? Or where is it kept?
You probably have this file on your system but only in /initrd.img,
ever since they added that early fsck before root is mounted. It reads
[options]
broken_system_clock=1
and is put there by /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/fsck thusly
# e2fsck may fail or warn if the system time is not yet correct, which
# will happen if the RTC driver is modular or the RTC is set to local
# time. Disable this behaviour. (No other fsck does this,
# apparently.)
mkdir -p ${DESTDIR}/etc
cat ${DESTDIR}/etc/e2fsck.conf EOF
[options]
broken_system_clock=1
EOF
Cheers,
David.
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Re: md5sums and shasums
On Sunday 05 April 2015 09:46:49 Brian wrote: On Sun 05 Apr 2015 at 07:33:18 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20150404_2240+0200, deloptes wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my feeling In the present, Debian relies on Ubuntu, but there are still short passages of text in our web site that remind me of a earlier time. A time before Ubuntu existed. Oh, well ... Ubuntu did is all a favour by choosing to be based on Debian. Its affect and influence have been largely beneficial. But there is always someone with a moan. Oh, well ... +10 or more Brian. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504051118.10599.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: md5sums and shasums
On 20150404_2240+0200, deloptes wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my feeling In the present, Debian relies on Ubuntu, but there are still short passages of text in our web site that remind me of a earlier time. A time before Ubuntu existed. Oh, well ... Best regards, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150405133318.ga8...@big.lan.gnu
Re: firefox-37, where to put
On Sunday 05 April 2015 09:03:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:57:02 Gene Heskett wrote: The film show seems to be the only way I can present what I've done in a manner that should not generate a 6 week long thread arguing about what I did or did not do to cause my own headache if indeed it is my mistake. If you would like help, then please DON'T do a film show. Just a series of still shots, the equivalent of screenshots, showing each step you take. Preferably before taking the next one. That is my intention. Tell us by email what you want to do next, with a hyperlink to the picture, and we'll try to help you do it. That won't fly, its this machine that does the serving and its this machine that I will be doing the install on. So the email per pix taken isn't possible. Pix yes, but they will be after the fact, wether I succeed or not, and likely put up after I swap back to this drive boot to it, upload the pix to this machine and process them. Do a step, send the email, wait for a reply instructing next step for each step isn't possible on the same machine, and none of the others are even close to being setup to do that. Lisi Cheers Lisi, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504050942.55255.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: md5sums and shasums
On Sun 05 Apr 2015 at 07:33:18 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20150404_2240+0200, deloptes wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my feeling In the present, Debian relies on Ubuntu, but there are still short passages of text in our web site that remind me of a earlier time. A time before Ubuntu existed. Oh, well ... Ubuntu did is all a favour by choosing to be based on Debian. Its affect and influence have been largely beneficial. But there is always someone with a moan. Oh, well ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/05042015144308.8e492cf94...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: firefox-37, where to put
On Sunday 05 April 2015 14:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2015 09:03:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:57:02 Gene Heskett wrote: The film show seems to be the only way I can present what I've done in a manner that should not generate a 6 week long thread arguing about what I did or did not do to cause my own headache if indeed it is my mistake. If you would like help, then please DON'T do a film show. Just a series of still shots, the equivalent of screenshots, showing each step you take. Preferably before taking the next one. That is my intention. Tell us by email what you want to do next, with a hyperlink to the picture, and we'll try to help you do it. That won't fly, its this machine that does the serving and its this machine that I will be doing the install on. So the email per pix taken isn't possible. Pix yes, but they will be after the fact, wether I succeed or not, and likely put up after I swap back to this drive boot to it, upload the pix to this machine and process them. Oh, well. Needs must. We must do the best with what is possible. Yes, you have said that you only have the one machine. My bad. Lisi Do a step, send the email, wait for a reply instructing next step for each step isn't possible on the same machine, and none of the others are even close to being setup to do that. Lisi Cheers Lisi, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504051457.41808.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: A question about deleting a big file structure from a big disk in Jessie: Why does this work? I'm really worried.
[Sat, 4 Apr 2015 09:44:13 +0200] Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:01:26 -0600 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: It could also be that I was unlucky in my purchase of cheap USB disk enclosures. Which is why I was careful to relate my experience but not cast blame. Your experiences and others may very well be different! You will have different hardware at the least. That will make a big difference. I encourage everyone to generate their own experience and collect and report the data from it. It is obvious what I am thinking but that doesn't mean it is correct. I am simply communicating in what I hope to be a helpful way. My experience has only recently shown that USB 3.0 disks are not that reliable (compare https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg00602.html). Still I do not know if this also applies to USB 2.0 disks. As far as I can tell, much of the USB instability originates from the fact, that USB uses extremly cheap cables and controllers to transfer data very quickly which results in data being often corrupted. Using the ``slower'' USB 2.0, this problem arises less frequently. I also have a USB disk enclosure, in which sits a 3,5 IDE-ATAPI drive, encrypted with LUKS. It is a really cheap, no-name enclosure that I've had for years, and so far I have had no problems with it. I'd be interested to know, if this is an USB 3.0 or USB 2.0 model, because I think USB 2.0 is much more reliable (although also slower). [...] That means I have to decide between eSATA and IEEE-1394 as interfaces. Only this machine has eSATA, I think, while both machines I might want to connect it to has Firewire. Which of these would be the best choice from a technical standpoint, and do they work well with Linux? I'd imagine eSATA would simply be seen as a SATA device? Although I have never used eSATA or IEEE-1394, I'd generally recommend eSATA because the internal SATA is not very different and works very reliable here. Also, eSATA is much faster than IEEE-1394 and USB 2.0 (although minimally slower than USB 3.0, I'd still prefer eSATA for reliability). Might it also be better to go with a little bit more expensive enclosure? I wonder whether the quality of controllers and cables really depends on the prices of the enclosure or if the higher price only accounts for a trademarked or nicer design? Btw: This is my first list-mail using Claws-Mail. I hope it arrives just as usual :) Linux-Fan -- http://masysma.lima-city.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: firefox-37, where to put
On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:57:02 Gene Heskett wrote: The film show seems to be the only way I can present what I've done in a manner that should not generate a 6 week long thread arguing about what I did or did not do to cause my own headache if indeed it is my mistake. If you would like help, then please DON'T do a film show. Just a series of still shots, the equivalent of screenshots, showing each step you take. Preferably before taking the next one. Tell us by email what you want to do next, with a hyperlink to the picture, and we'll try to help you do it. If, on the other hand, you just what to show off your camera and don't want any help with the installer, go ahead and do a film show. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504051403.08456.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 8 release
Den 2015-04-05 12:08, Andreas Ronnquist skrev: Ifyllt. Jag kan den 25:e och några andra datum - Angående 11:e tycker jag ju att det skulle kännas lite märkligt att fira utgåvan innan den verkligen har hänt ... :) Ok, om det är det som mötet ska handla om, så håller jag helt med dig. ;) Och angående plats så är det väl mest logiskt att välja platsen där vi kan minimera antalet som måste resa långt - och med det i åtanke så lutar det ju mot Göteborg... Som sagt. Det funkar för mig. Också - angående det - jag kör, så jag kan ordna samåkning om det skulle bli norrut (Jag bor ju i Halmstad, och kan skulle exempelvis kunna plocka upp folk på vägen till Göteborg så vi kan dela på resekostnader). Har du plats för lilla mig, så åker jag gärna med dig. Så länge dagen för mötet funkar för mig. (Jag toppostar eftersom jag svarar på en toppostning) ( Jag gör något mitt emellan :) -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552139fa.9080...@gmail.com
Re: Icedove stopped sending and receiving e-mail
Quoting Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no: On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:44:34 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: I've just had a rather bad time with my Debian/Jessie AMD64 system. I had to reset it yesterday after a hardware-related lockup (it doesn't like my optical drive connected to an add-in PCIe SATA card - usually freezes after writing an ISO image to DVD). The lockup wouldn't respond to sysrq so I needed the reset button. Trying to get back up was painful. I finally got it back by reverting to SysV Init, which fortunately was an option on the Grub menu. However now that it's running, I'm having a weird problem with Icedove. I can't receive e-mail on any of the accounts it's configured to check. Moreover, I have three accounts that it's not showing the inbox, etc. for. These are all configured for pop e-mail and the e-mail folders are all on a single NFS share that is also used by the accounts that are showing the inboxes, etc.. The e-mail in the folders that I can see are complete - back to the time the machine froze, but nothing since. Interestingly, when I try to Get Messages on an account, I get the status bar message e-mail account: Connected to pop server name. I tried uninstalling and re-installing Icedove but nothing changed. I can access the accounts via their web-mail interfaces. I tried sending this message via Icedove but it failed to send. I just get the sending message box and status bar. Any ideas? I don't know if it will help you, but it is possible that somehow your Icedove configuration has become corrupted - have you tried moving it out of the way so Icedove can't find it, before starting Icedove and setting it up again? I don't use Icedove, but I just installed it to see what it creates, and I would move at least ~/.cache/icedove and ~/.mozilla out of the way. Just a suggestion. Petter Perhaps. I'm leaning at this point to doing a fresh install of Jessie (after saving /etc) to see if I can get it boot using systemd. I also tried removing and recreating an account. When I did, I get an error message after filling in the initial dialogue box (Your name, email address, Password). Error in errorCallback for fetchhttp [Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x804b0033 (NS_ERROR_UNKNOWN_SOCKET_TYPE) [nsISocketTransportService.createTransport] nsresult: 0x804b0033 (NS_ERROR_UNKNOWN_SOCKET_TYPE) location: JS frame :: chrome://messenger/content/accountcreation/guessConfig.js :: SocketUtil :: line 1058 data: no] I don't know which package would be generating that message but it looks like it could be the source of the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150405104626.15451apaj6joc...@www.torfree.net
Re: Jessie and /var
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 16:35:02 -0600 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Petter Adsen wrote: Jerome BENOIT wrote: Petter Adsen wrote: I am preparing to set up Jessie on my home server today, with mdadm RAID and LVM. Even though I am using LVM, I want to get the volume sizes about right when I first set them up. You can always expand the volume very trivially. You can't shrink it easily however. So don't go crazy-too-large or you will have unusuable space. A comfortable amount is fine. Here are some very active systems of mine. In review now I could probably bump up the space there a little bit but at the same time those haven't had space issues ever either. I set /var much bigger, because I intend to have several VMs and containers there. But I know what images are to be stored there and how big they are, so I could figure it out pretty accurately. snip VM images and containers are stored under /var - is there anything else that systemd stores under /var that might take up enough space that I should be aware of when setting up? why not mount a dedicated partition inside /var for such usage ? /var/local ? I mount an additional volume at /var/lib/libvirt/images in order to handle the image sizes. Or with LVM build the VM images directly in a logical volume. That is the recommendation for performance anyway. I rarely actually use the VMs on that machine, and I didn't want to bother converting them to logical volumes, so I just left everything in /var. This may change in the future, as I left some space in the VG mostly for this purpose. On my workstation I have now also set up LVM on a spare disk, that I intend to use mostly for VMs. So far, I have kept them as images on an SSD, so performance has been good. That is a possibility, but I will either: a) simply set up a /var large enough for all I need, or b) symlink to /srv, if necessary I am hoping to avoid symlinking, though. Why do you want to avoid the symlink? Just a personal preference. I just prefer instantly knowing what partition everything is on, and to me, symlinking can make things a bit messy. I think this is related to the fact that I have Aspergers. Some things can be harder to wrap my head around. Alternatively use a bind mount. This is what I do system. In this example I had a large /home partition and I wanted to share the space there. I bind mounted /home/images to /var/lib/libvirt/images. That was a good idea, I didn't think of that. Thank you. The /etc/fstab entry: /home/images /var/lib/libvirt/images none bind 0 0 This will create an error on purge because the postrm can't remove the directory but since we know what we did that is okay to ignore and cleanup after the package purge. Understand and ignore it. I don't have plans to purge the production use of this anytime soon. Just noting it for the record. I will keep a mental note of that. But what I was wondering is if there is anything other than containers/VM images that systemd introduces in /var that takes a significant amount of space? It depends completely upon what you install. Everyone will install a Of course. :) different set of things. As David mentioned apt-cacher-ng caches packages and will consume in its cache up to the configured size. On my other machine with it installed I have it using its own logical volume. Yes, I was seriously wondering about installing apt-cache-ng. I have plenty of bandwidth, but there is absolutely no point in wasting more than I need. Will that also cache packages for other architectures? I have a Pi, running Raspbian - will it cache packages for that too, or just the multi-arch ones? FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/vg1-acng 9.9G 3.3G 6.2G 35% /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng BTW: Whoever came up with the ability to do parts of the installer via ssh - thank you, thank you, thank you! :) _Very_ convenient, I just hadn't actually tried it before. That is a pretty cool feature. It is :) Can't believe I haven't tried it before, it's so much nicer to sit at a proper workstation and do the install. Thank you for all the advice, I'm now going to carefully read the manpage on mount and learn more about bind mounting :) HAND! Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpSeEvWF5_Mu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Icedove stopped sending and receiving e-mail
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:44:34 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: I've just had a rather bad time with my Debian/Jessie AMD64 system. I had to reset it yesterday after a hardware-related lockup (it doesn't like my optical drive connected to an add-in PCIe SATA card - usually freezes after writing an ISO image to DVD). The lockup wouldn't respond to sysrq so I needed the reset button. Trying to get back up was painful. I finally got it back by reverting to SysV Init, which fortunately was an option on the Grub menu. However now that it's running, I'm having a weird problem with Icedove. I can't receive e-mail on any of the accounts it's configured to check. Moreover, I have three accounts that it's not showing the inbox, etc. for. These are all configured for pop e-mail and the e-mail folders are all on a single NFS share that is also used by the accounts that are showing the inboxes, etc.. The e-mail in the folders that I can see are complete - back to the time the machine froze, but nothing since. Interestingly, when I try to Get Messages on an account, I get the status bar message e-mail account: Connected to pop server name. I tried uninstalling and re-installing Icedove but nothing changed. I can access the accounts via their web-mail interfaces. I tried sending this message via Icedove but it failed to send. I just get the sending message box and status bar. Any ideas? I don't know if it will help you, but it is possible that somehow your Icedove configuration has become corrupted - have you tried moving it out of the way so Icedove can't find it, before starting Icedove and setting it up again? I don't use Icedove, but I just installed it to see what it creates, and I would move at least ~/.cache/icedove and ~/.mozilla out of the way. Just a suggestion. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpCkf0IcWf3D.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Trailing ms at the end of every line when viewing man pages
Stephen Powell wrote: I am experiencing a very strange phenomenon. I have an old IBM 3151 ASCII display terminal that has been lying around the house; and today I decided to see if I could get it connected up to one Fun! I never used one of those models and am unfamiliar with it in particular. of my PCs, which runs Debian GNU/Linux (jessie). I was successful in doing this. But when I login to Debian from the IBM 3151 terminal, I have noticed some strange goings on. The system locale is en_US.UTF-8. But of course this old terminal is mostly 7-bit ASCII, though it does support vt100 graphic character escape sequences for box drawing. I have modified ~/.bashrc so that if the terminal type ($TERM) is ibm3151, I set LANG to en_US, and that has solved some problems. But when I issue the MAN command, I see lower-case ms at the end of each line. How does the terminal handle control-m carriage returns? Normally at the terminal will receive a CR-NL pair and will move the cursor left and then down. It seems likely those 'm's are CR characters. It would be good to verify that. $ printf This is a CR char: ==\r==\n If it is a normal terminal we would see this. Because the CR moves the cursor to the left and the next two == chars overwrite the Th of This. Then the newline is translated to a CR-NL pair and moves the cursor left and down. ==is is a CR char: == But if it is the CR chars producing the 'm' for you then it would print this: This is a CR char: ==m== Then at least you would know it is the CR that isn't handled like in a standard terminal. Ideas, anyone? I would see if there is a setting on the terminal to change. Having it work normally would be best. Additionally maybe you can avoid sending CR chars to the terminal. Does it interpret NLs as a CR-NL just by itself? If so then turn off onlcr. Try setting the stty settings to avoid sending a CR. man stty * [-]onlcr translate newline to carriage return-newline Normally that is set. $ stty -a ... opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel ... The onlcr translates NL into CR-NL pairs. It might be that your terminal wants it unset. $ stty -onlcr On a standard terminal that would cause the cursor to move down vertically at the end of the line but not return to the left. If that happens just set it back to on again. $ stty onlcr Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Fwd: add a remote login to the window login
Hi, I read in the features of lightdm Supports remote login (incoming - XDMCP, VNC, outgoing - XDMCP, pluggable). But I can't find where to configure it. *I want to enter from a local machine running to a remote server using XDMCP. I did it with without problem from a thin client. ligh...@lists.freedesktop.org Now I want to do it from an old PC, that I want to use it as a simple terminal. ligh...@lists.freedesktop.orgIn the window of the login I have only local accounts on my local machine, I want to configure the lightdm in order to get in the menu of the login window of lightdm the remote servers running XDMCP? ligh...@lists.freedesktop.org* *on one word : I want to add a remote XDMCP login to my menu in window login* * thanks for help best regards ligh...@lists.freedesktop.org*
Re: Icedove stopped sending and receiving e-mail
On 04/05/2015 10:46 AM, Gary Dale wrote: Perhaps. I'm leaning at this point to doing a fresh install of Jessie (after saving /etc) to see if I can get it boot using systemd. Same thing I did back 6 months or so ago. Installing fresh fixed everything. I would back up /etc for reference, but allow Jessie to do it's own thing. If you want to keep your emails, running Thunderbird I have a ~/.thunderbird folder. I would guess that you have a ~/.icedove folder as well. Save that to your backup. Also ~/.mozilla to backup. I also tried removing and recreating an account. When I did, I get an error message after filling in the initial dialogue box (Your name, email address, Password). Error in errorCallback for fetchhttp [Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x804b0033 (NS_ERROR_UNKNOWN_SOCKET_TYPE) [nsISocketTransportService.createTransport] nsresult: 0x804b0033 (NS_ERROR_UNKNOWN_SOCKET_TYPE) location: JS frame :: chrome://messenger/content/accountcreation/guessConfig.js :: SocketUtil :: line 1058 data: no] When it's borked, it's usually borked REAL GOOD! Fresh install. And, if you have an entire drive to play with, I always create a large partition for /opt ...sorta like the old /usr/local scheme but you're not dinking with /usr . Then I create links from the usual user folders to there, like Desktop -- /opt/user/ric/Desktop and so on with Music, Video, Documents, Downloads and the rest. After a fresh install, just re-link painlessly. I also link some dot-directories like email and browser there. If you have more than one user, just add them to /opt/user. Piece O CAKE! My opt partition is 1/2 of my drive and I wish I had made it bigger. ric@iam:~$ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 355657652 47327040 290241192 15% / udev 10240 0 10240 0% /dev tmpfs3293888 9368 3284520 1% /run tmpfs8234716 2300 8232416 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock tmpfs8234716 0 8234716 0% /sys/fs/cgroup /dev/sdb2 365154236 278354304 68244456 81% /opt tmpfs1646944 4 1646940 1% /run/user/106 tmpfs1646944 8 1646936 1% /run/user/1000 ric@iam:~$ As you can see, /opt really gets used, especially with videos and downloads. I wouldn't leave home without it. So I would give it 2/3 of a drive, at least, in the future. A fresh install is now a breeze. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552182cb.4030...@gmail.com
Re: sshfs: problem with rsync
Le lundi 30 mars 2015, 10:45:25 Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : I'm using sshfs to copy some files from my PC to Android devices. With the cp command, no problem, but trying with rsync -av gives the error: rsync: rename /gs2/mnt/sdcard/.file.txt.xK3ZiH - file.txt: Operation not permitted (1) You don't need to use sshfs with rsync. rsync is able to use ssh with something like rsync -av /some/where remote_system:/to/some/where Hope this helps -- https://github.com/dod38fr/config-model/ -o- http://search.cpan.org/~ddumont/ http://ddumont.wordpress.com/-o- irc: dod at irc.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/33217922.xg71DCmHoR@gandalf
Re: Trailing ms at the end of every line when viewing man pages
On 20150405_0201-0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: I am experiencing a very strange phenomenon. I have an old IBM 3151 ASCII display terminal that has been lying around the house; and today I decided to see if I could get it connected up to one Fun! I never used one of those models and am unfamiliar with it in Yes! particular. -- snip -- Then at least you would know it is the CR that isn't handled like in a standard terminal. Times change. If one waits even a short while, they can change a lot. When this terminal was new, a 'standard' terminal was a mechanical teletype manufactured by Teletype Corp. in Skokie, IL. The generic name for this 'terminal' was, I think, a 'glass teletype' Each computer company had its own special glass teletypes that interfaced to its computer. All proprietary. None of the glass teletypes had the very useful scroll back feature of the real teletype that they were trying to emulate. Teletype paper came in rolls. A single roll was a many meters long. It would pile up behind the teletype as one worked. It could always be pulled out and reviewed back to initial login at the beginning of the session. Some people left the paper behind for someone else to clear away. Others saved it, rolled up and labeled at their desks. It took 0.1 sec. to mechanically process one character, except for carriage return. That took up to 0.2 sec. The placement of the carriage return character before the non-printing line feed character allowed the carriage to get all the back to the left before a printing character arrived. It was in the design of teletype that this cr/lf feature was baked into our history. Cheers, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150405155949.gb8...@big.lan.gnu
Re: sshfs: problem with rsync
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015, Dominique Dumont wrote: You don't need to use sshfs with rsync. rsync is able to use ssh with something like rsync -av /some/where remote_system:/to/some/where my Android ssh server uses the port 2223, and I could not find how to force rsync to use this port. (you need to call a remote rsync, which exists on Unix but not on Android) Anyway, Kushal Kumaran gave 5 days ago the way to fix the sshfs issue.. thanks for your help best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.11.1504052145110.16...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
minidebconf Lyon 11-12 avril (et minidebconf suivante)
Bonjour, Un mail rapide pour vous rappeler que la prochaine minidebconf France aura lieu à Lyon le week-end prochain, 11 et 12 d'avril. Le programme est disponible sur : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2015/Minidebconf#Talks_Schedule_.2F_Programme L'inscription dans le wiki n'est pas obligatoire mais recommandée. Je profite pour vous encourager à envoyer un Lightning talk : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2015/Minidebconf#Lightning_talks Et pour vous noter si vous souhaitez participer au dîner du conférence samedi : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2015/Minidebconf#Conference_dinner Si vous vous posez la question du lieu de la prochaine mini-debconf, il est temps de vous impliquer et l'organiser dans votre ville ! Ana -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150405200056.ga30...@pryan.ekaia.org
