Re: Dropbox nao sincroniza
Já que vc tem urgencia, vou tentar ajudar. Primeiro, aparentemente vc tá executando o dropbox pelo terminal como root. É isso mesmo? Vc não deveria executar o dropbox como seu usuário? Segundo, porque vc não usa o icone do Dropbox instalado pelo cliente oficial? Ou vc não tá usando o cliente oficial? Depois que você resolver seu problema com o Dropbox, recomendo fortemente que você abandone este serviço e migre para um serviço de armazenamento em nuvem pago e seguro. Existem muitas opções por aí. O Dropbox espiona sua máquina toda, não só o diretório onde o cliente deveria sincronizar. -- Esta mensagem não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluindo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridículas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 8:37, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu: Estou com um problema do dropboxe preciso resolver isso o mais rápido possível. Atualizei o debian e consequentemente o dropbox foi desisntalado.Reinstalei porém ele nao sincroniza com meu PC, quando rodo o comando~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd ele mostra a seguinte mesnsagem:/root/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado -- Manoel
Encrypting an External HDD
Hi list, I have a USB external HDD that I would like to encrypt with a passphrase. After looking into filesystems, I decided to go with Ext4. What's the recommended way of encrypting a drive? Do I partition it first, then encrypt that partition? Internet searches lead me to LUKS cryptsetup. However, the blog and forum posts I've read are a bit old. I'm running Jessie. Thank you! pgp6YupcK1LZU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 07:53:20 -0400 Stephen R Guglielmo srguglie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I have a USB external HDD that I would like to encrypt with a passphrase. After looking into filesystems, I decided to go with Ext4. What's the recommended way of encrypting a drive? Do I partition it first, then encrypt that partition? Yes, you create a partition (or LV), encrypt it, and then mkfs. Unless if you want to use LVM and retain the ability to re-size volumes, then you set up encryption before LVM. That's a guess, though - I haven't done that yet. Internet searches lead me to LUKS cryptsetup. However, the blog and forum posts I've read are a bit old. I'm running Jessie. I used this guide, and it worked perfectly for me: http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/ It's from 2012, but I had no problems with it at all, and I was also encrypting an external USB drive. If you run into any problems, feel free to ask. Good luck! Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpwHUqSXF1eI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Can't isntall Debian on UEFI system
On Wednesday 15 April 2015 11:22:49, German wrote : Hi all, I am trying to install live image from USB stick, but my comp's BIOS doesn't see the drive. I tried to dd .iso to stick, I tried to copy it, still, BIOS doesn't see it. I also don't see any efi folders on the stick when I look at it with a file manager. Any ideas? Thanks I did it no later than yesterday. I downloaded the netinst image of jessie rc2 on this page: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ In my case, it was the amd64 image. I copied it to the usb key with this command cp debian-jessie-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdc Then the key booted just fine on an EFI system and it installed on a CF disk booted by EFI (checked it by making sure /sys/firmware/efi exists). Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504151425.24187.frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com
Re: Has the rescatux and supergrubdisk project been terminated
On 2015-04-15, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: What I actually want it for, is the functionality to reset passwords on both Debian 5 and MS Win8. Does what you have, have that functionality? http://sourceforge.net/projects/rescatux/ Says it can Clear Windows passwords under Features. For debian maybe you can try the following and report back in case of failure: http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-reset-debian-root-password.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmispfp.395.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Can't isntall Debian on UEFI system
On 04/15/2015 at 05:22 AM, German wrote: Hi all, I am trying to install live image from USB stick, but my comp's BIOS doesn't see the drive. I tried to dd .iso to stick, I tried to copy it, still, BIOS doesn't see it. I also don't see any efi folders on the stick when I look at it with a file manager. Any ideas? Thanks What test are you using to determine that the UEFI doesn't see the USB stick? If you're basing that conclusion on the observation that the computer won't boot from the USB stick, even when explicitly told to, the problem might be Secure Boot. In order to boot a non-signed kernel (or one signed by a key not in the list known to the UEFI), in my workplace we have to both A: disable Secure Boot and B: switch from UEFI boot to legacy boot. Otherwise, when told to boot from that device, the system reacts as if there were no boot media present there. If you're basing the conclusion on some other observation, however, I may be barking up entirely the wrong tree. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Problemas com codeblocks
Olá gente bom dia. Estou em um gNewSense 3.1 Parkes derivado do Debian Squeeze, portanto old-stable. Logo, estável mais que velho, e prosseguirei com ele até onde conseguir. Instalado há bastante tempo. Tem gente dizendo no fórum do Codeblocks ainda em 2013 que esse problema acontecia já naquela época com a versão 12.11 do programa Codeblocks, compilador de algoritmos. Utilizo ele no curso técnico em informática no IFET, só que no Windows. É um software GNU GPL que instalei aqui com alguns problemas de dependências e agora toda vez que vou desinstalar ou instalar alguma coisa nova aparece isso: Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto Construindo árvore de dependências Lendo informação de estado... Pronto Pacotes virtuais como 'unrar' não podem ser removidos Você deve querer executar 'apt-get -f install' para corrigí-los: Os pacotes a seguir têm dependências desencontradas: codeblocks : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Recomenda: gdb mas não será instalado codeblocks-contrib : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Recomenda: valgrind mas não será instalado Recomenda: cppcheck mas não será instalado Recomenda: cscope mas não será instalado Recomenda: mas não será instalado codeblocks-libwxcontrib0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado libcodeblocks0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado libwxsmithlib0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado E: Dependências desencontradas. Tente 'apt-get -f install' sem nenhum pacote (ou especifique uma solução). root@FSR:/home/fsr/Downloads/Setup/Codeblocks# apt-get remove unrar-free Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto Construindo árvore de dependências Lendo informação de estado... Pronto Você deve querer executar 'apt-get -f install' para corrigí-los: Os pacotes a seguir têm dependências desencontradas: codeblocks : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Recomenda: gdb mas não será instalado codeblocks-contrib : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Recomenda: valgrind mas não será instalado Recomenda: cppcheck mas não será instalado Recomenda: cscope mas não será instalado Recomenda: mas não será instalado codeblocks-libwxcontrib0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado libcodeblocks0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado libwxsmithlib0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado E: Dependências desencontradas. Tente 'apt-get -f install' sem nenhum pacote (ou especifique uma solução). Minha dúvida é se terei de substituir os pacotes com cuidado não pelo repositório, mas substituindo um por um pelas versões oficiais liberados nos sites deles. Alguem poderia dar uma luz? Estou verificando a disponibilidade da substituição desses pacots na internet, mas não sei o impacto deles no sistema. Se alguém puder/quiser ajudar responde aí. O Codeblocks está rodando, já até fiz uns dois algoritmos. Att.
Re: Dropbox nao sincroniza
Então fera, seu dropbox já tá rodando, é só vc configurar ele. -- Esta mensagem não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluindo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridículas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 9:04, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu: Quando dou o comado ~$ ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd Aparece essa mensagem Another instance of Dropbox (4060) is running! Em 15 de abril de 2015 08:54, Márcio de Araújo Benedito china...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Já que vc tem urgencia, vou tentar ajudar. Primeiro, aparentemente vc tá executando o dropbox pelo terminal como root. É isso mesmo? Vc não deveria executar o dropbox como seu usuário? Segundo, porque vc não usa o icone do Dropbox instalado pelo cliente oficial? Ou vc não tá usando o cliente oficial? Depois que você resolver seu problema com o Dropbox, recomendo fortemente que você abandone este serviço e migre para um serviço de armazenamento em nuvem pago e seguro. Existem muitas opções por aí. O Dropbox espiona sua máquina toda, não só o diretório onde o cliente deveria sincronizar. -- Esta mensagem não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluindo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridículas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 8:37, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu: Estou com um problema do dropboxe preciso resolver isso o mais rápido possível. Atualizei o debian e consequentemente o dropbox foi desisntalado.Reinstalei porém ele nao sincroniza com meu PC, quando rodo o comando~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd ele mostra a seguinte mesnsagem:/root/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado -- Manoel -- Manoel
Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !
On 2015-04-15 15:10:55 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Franchement, je te conseille d'essayer et de te faire ta propre opinion. J'attends la sortie de jessie. J'espère pouvoir essayer dans une machine virtuelle afin de voir comment ça se passe. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415134029.gb26...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: Dropbox nao sincroniza
Quando dou o comado ~$ ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd Aparece essa mensagem Another instance of Dropbox (4060) is running! Em 15 de abril de 2015 08:54, Márcio de Araújo Benedito china...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Já que vc tem urgencia, vou tentar ajudar. Primeiro, aparentemente vc tá executando o dropbox pelo terminal como root. É isso mesmo? Vc não deveria executar o dropbox como seu usuário? Segundo, porque vc não usa o icone do Dropbox instalado pelo cliente oficial? Ou vc não tá usando o cliente oficial? Depois que você resolver seu problema com o Dropbox, recomendo fortemente que você abandone este serviço e migre para um serviço de armazenamento em nuvem pago e seguro. Existem muitas opções por aí. O Dropbox espiona sua máquina toda, não só o diretório onde o cliente deveria sincronizar. -- Esta mensagem não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluindo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridículas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 8:37, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu: Estou com um problema do dropbox e preciso resolver isso o mais rápido possível. Atualizei o debian e consequentemente o dropbox foi desisntalado. Reinstalei porém ele nao sincroniza com meu PC, quando rodo o comando ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd ele mostra a seguinte mesnsagem: /root/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado -- Manoel -- Manoel
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 23:18, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-14 13:26:16 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Yeah, that's a bad habit to have as it slows down way too many utilities (lots of stuff benefit for extremely lightweight ultra-fast tmpfs in /tmp and $TMPDIR, from sort to gcc without -pipe), but it is indeed widespread. Can't disk caching be as fast as tmpfs (or almost)? Never subestimate the needs of a persistent filesystem to care for metadata and data safety, unless it has an eatmydata mount option or something to that effect. But it really depends on the workload and filesystems involved. You should test your usecase. Yes, there are a few workloads where ext4 or XFS should be able to come somewhat close to the performance of tmpfs. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1429101144.3686512.254022569.24042...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !
On 14/04/15 at 15:57 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-09 15:22:15 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 09/04/15 at 12:46 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-08 20:35:06 +0200, maderios wrote: On 04/08/2015 05:50 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-07 18:59:29 +0200, maderios wrote: Systemd ne sera jamais fini mais pour le moment, avec Debian, c'est stable par rapport aux débuts. Il faudrait surtout qu'il n'y ait plus de régression par rapport à sysvinit. Vu la prudence légendaire de Debian, dernière distrib à adopter systemd, le risque est mince... Tu as constaté une régression? Pas encore testé systemd (vu que mes deux vieilles machines vont bientôt être remplacées), mais d'après ce que j'ai lu, il y a le verbose qui n'est pas implémenté. Qu'appeles-tu le verbose ? (quelles infos veux-tu ?) Des messages sur ce qui est fait lors du boot. Il y a aussi ça: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/TODO - Add a verbose mode to systemctl start and friends that explains what is being done or not done Cf la discussion | Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:16:48 -0300 | From: Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com | To: Debian User debian-u...@lists.debian.org | Subject: No feedback from systemd / systemctl stop X... Nothing | on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see... Franchement, je te conseille d'essayer et de te faire ta propre opinion. Concernant les messages de boot, ils sont cachés par défaut, mais tu peux appuyer sur ESC pour les voir. Et une grosse différence entre systemd et sysvinit, c'est qu'avec systemd, tu peux voir ce qui a effectivement démarré, après le boot, avec 'systemctl status'. Lucas -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415131055.ga3...@xanadu.blop.info
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
Nate Bargmann wrote:
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote {with restored context
;/}
FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked.
*BUT* is there any reference that would provoke investigating
questions I have yet thought to ask? Can there be?
This partially prompted by a personal project whose working title
is A Minimalist's Minimal (but very INSTRUCTIVE) Install via
debootstrap. {d-i does too much too silently for my tastes ;)
We're all cynics!
For some odd reason I seem to have questions that are lightly or not
covered by the documentation.
*DEFINITELY* Part of the solution would be to encourage/ALLOW
technologically oriented Jr. and Sr. High students to write about
technology. It wasn't until my late 40's that had a writing
course that was a thinly disguised Literature course [more
pathetically it was at a small Bible college I attended part-time
instead of the Ivy League institution at which I had pursued an
engineering degree.]
For Richard, many of my searches lead me to the Stack Overflow
collection of web sites. The answers I find are usually very good and
often times there are one or two additional detailed explanations.
My searches have lead there as well. I'd likely not post there as
they have a strong orientation to how rather than why. I
attract enough static on that already grin
Of course someone will weigh in saying that all questions are ansered in
the source...
;/
- Nate
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Re: [HS] L'écran tactile sous Linux
Tiré de mon expérience Xubuntu sur un prototype de tablette (Le Tablo) : Il existe différents modèles de claviers virtuels, j'avais essayé OnBoard et Florence. J'avais également mis en place le cache automatique du clavier, ou plutôt le décache automatique quand on a besoin du clavier : http://florence.sourceforge.net/francais/how-to.html#auto-hide Bon, je sais! c'est pas Debian, ne tirez pas c'est inutile :-) Pierre -- Pro. Signature Pierre Touzeau -- Chargé de mission / Préfecture de region Basse-Normandie SGAR/rue Daniel HUET/14038 CAEN CEDEX/Tel: +33 231 306 306 pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr / Fax: ... 564 --
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
On Wednesday 15 April 2015 13:53:20, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote : Hi list, I have a USB external HDD that I would like to encrypt with a passphrase. After looking into filesystems, I decided to go with Ext4. What's the recommended way of encrypting a drive? Do I partition it first, then encrypt that partition? Internet searches lead me to LUKS cryptsetup. However, the blog and forum posts I've read are a bit old. I'm running Jessie. I followed this procedure on Monday and got an encrypted USB disk with LUKS: http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks- cryptsetup-command/ It contains a neat trick to monitor the progress when filling the partition with zeros: pv -tpreb /dev/zero | dd of=/dev/mapper/backup2 bs=128M It is convenient to monitor the progression as it took more than 4h to fill a 1TB USB3 disk. I understand that filling the encrypted partition (/dev/mapper/backup2) with zeros is equivalent to filling the unencrypted partition (/dev/sdb1) with random data as explained by other procedures. There is one thing I didn't do as described. I initialized the LUKS partition with this command cryptsetup -y --use-urandom -v luksFormat /dev/sdb1 It use /dev/urandom instead of the default /dev/random to generate the master key. The documentation says it is better to use urandom as random may block if the computer entropy is low. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504151417.48084.frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
On 2015-04-15 09:32:24 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 23:18, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Can't disk caching be as fast as tmpfs (or almost)? Never subestimate the needs of a persistent filesystem to care for metadata and data safety, unless it has an eatmydata mount option or something to that effect. Yes, such a mount option would be useful. Or alternatively tmpfs should be able to get some specific swap space on disk (this swap space would be used *only* for tmpfs, not for the main memory). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415133539.ga26...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
On 04/15/2015 05:17 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: I understand that filling the encrypted partition (/dev/mapper/backup2) with zeros is equivalent to filling the unencrypted partition (/dev/sdb1) with random data as explained by other procedures. I've found 'shred' to be the fastest way to fill a drive or partition with random data. Filling a dm-crypt mapped device file with all zeros gives an attacker lots of predictable plain text for cracking your password. (Formatting a dm-crypt mapped device file also provides a certain amount of predictable plain text, but is unavoidable.) It use /dev/urandom instead of the default /dev/random to generate the master key. The documentation says it is better to use urandom as random may block if the computer entropy is low. /dev/random is for cryptographically secure random numbers, such as for cryptographic keys. It requires a source of entropy to operate, and will block until entropy is available. Thus, on most desktop computers, it is only suitable for small amounts of random numbers. On Linux, /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail contains the kernel's estimate of available entropy (in bits): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_%28computing%29 2015-04-15 07:37:24 dpchrist@t2250 ~ $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail 2364 If /dev/random blocks, wiggle your mouse to create entropy. /dev/urandom is for non-cryptographic/ low-security random numbers, such as for games. It will use entropy as available, otherwise it will mathematically generate pseudo-random numbers. It does not block and can generate large amounts of random data quickly, but is vulnerable to attack. ISAAC seems to be a respected PRNG algorithm: http://burtleburtle.net/bob/rand/isaacafa.html Hardware random number generators promise the best of both worlds -- security and speed. For example, Intel SecureKey technology provides a 5 Gb/s stream of cryptographically secure random numbers: https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2012/05/14/what-is-intelr-secure-key-technology Intel AES-NI technology accelerates software encryption/ decryption. My 3.2 GHz HT P4 machine without AES-NI is CPU bound around ~70 MB/s on one HDD. My quad HT Core i7-2600S (1.6~3.8 GHz) with AES-NI has no problem keeping up with 400+ MB/s RAID. https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-advanced-encryption-standard-instructions-aes-ni Error-correcting code (ECC) memory has higher reliability than non-ECC memory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_memory ECC memory is strongly advised for ZFS, as ZFS can destroy your data on disk if you have memory problems: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=zfs+ecc David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e83fc.4090...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Sobre squid.....
Perdon por el cross-posting, no volvera a ocurrir... Leeré la referencia que me dan y el parametro maximum_object_size jamas lo he usado. y el cache_mem esta en 128mb.. Gracias por la atención y la ayuda que me brindan Yo tuve un problema similar, pero no estas dando muchos datos de tu configuración, pueden ser muchas cosas. En mi caso el problema estaba en un parámetro del Kernel en la cantidad máxima de archivos que puede abrir el Sistema ( limit.conf ). Si tienes mucho trafico, puede estar ahí. Pero es una conexión muy chica para saturar ese parámetro. Puedes revisarlo con: squidclient -p PUERTOSQUID mgr:info y revisa el detalle. creo que el parámetro era el file director. Saludos --
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
On 04/15/2015 05:04 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/ That article shows how to create a LUKS container on the raw drive. I prefer creating a partition table, creating one large primary partition, and putting a LUKS container into that. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e7aca.4020...@holgerdanske.com
Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !
On 04/15/2015 12:25 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-15 11:54:37 +0200, maderios wrote: Sauf erreur de ma part, le noyau affiche les messages concernant les services. Non, ce n'est pas le noyau, mais simplement la sortie et l'erreur standard des scripts d'init, qui sont redirigées sur la console avec une copie éventuelle dans /var/log/boot. Encore une lacune à combler... Merci pour cette rectification. -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e858b.7080...@gmail.com
Re: wheezy drive recognition?
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): Greetings drive guru's; I have a 3 drive hot swap cage in my machine for a couple years now, and no it is NOT setup as a raid of any kind. It has had a triplet of 1T seagate drives in it since installing it. My main boot drive had a 10.04-4 LTS Ubuntu install on it, but the drive went read only a couple months back, so I swapped the top 2 and put wheezy on what is now /dev/sda. I eventually had copied off what I needed from the old drive so I removed it, leaving slot 2 empty while I ordered up 2 more drives from TigerDirect, but had to settle for the 2Tb version this time. Tonight I cut the blisterpack off the first of the 2Tb drives and slid it into slot 2. Wheezy, with SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux kernel running cannot connect to it, doing this from /var/log/messages: Apr 14 21:14:33 coyote kernel: [1098002.318613] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:14:39 coyote kernel: [1098008.240015] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19) Apr 14 21:14:43 coyote kernel: [1098012.328022] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:14:49 coyote kernel: [1098018.256019] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19) Apr 14 21:14:53 coyote kernel: [1098022.344027] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:14:59 coyote kernel: [1098028.264018] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19) Followed by quite a few megabytes of this: Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934065] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934070] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934074] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934081] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935512] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935515] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935518] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935522] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 I got the impression that it was not even spinning up. I don't know what you did 50 seconds after you plugged in your new drive, but those sr0 messages look as if you/the system tried to read an empty DVD/CD drive. If you get no more lines like the ones below, (ata/sd) then it would seem it hasn't recognised what's on the new disk. If it's straight from the blister pack, what might you find on it? (All the naked drives I've acquired have been second-hand.) Big disks I've bought recently have NTFS filesystems on them. So I plugged the old, read-only drive in to see if the slot was bad, but it signs on like this: Apr 14 21:35:05 coyote kernel: [1099234.688032] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:35:11 coyote kernel: [1099240.608030] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19) Apr 14 21:35:15 coyote kernel: [1099244.704026] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.588034] ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.596577] ata2.00: ATA-8: ST31000340AS, SD1A, max UDMA/133 Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.596582] ata2.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32) Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.612502] ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133 Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.612512] ata2: EH complete Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.612633] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST31000340AS SD1A PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.612851] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0 Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.612895] sd 1:0:0:0: [sde] 1953525168 512-byte logical blocks: (1.00 TB/931 GiB) Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.612993] sd 1:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.613034] sd 1:0:0:0: [sde] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.665063] sde: sde1 sde2 sde3 Apr 14 21:35:16 coyote kernel: [1099245.665558] sd 1:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI disk Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415153638.ga31...@alum.home
Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared to simply starting a ConsoleKit session? exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm instead of exec your-wm None really, except to keep system overhead as small as possible. [...] I wanted the smallest, lightest install of Wheezy 64-bit I could get. I started with a basic terminal system and added the rest piece by piece. That's what I do too. I have a script that installs a few packages and configurations on top of a basic Debian server installation. So, I just don't run (or have installed) a lot of support stuff that normal desktop systems do. I even boot to a terminal where I login, then manually start X and Openbox with startx. I agree, for me a display manager is one of those unnecessary features. Since I almost always want to use a GUI, however, my ~/.profile ends with #start an X session when logging in on the first virtual console if [ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ] [ -z $DISPLAY ]; then exec startx ~/.xsession-errors 21 fi I didn't get that fancy. I just type in startx. As I leave my system running 24/7, it's not that inconvenient. Writing my own udev rules was in keeping with that minimalism. I tried to do that myselft but I never got it working. That's why I had to resort to ck-launch-session. It took me a while to get the hang of rule writing, and I still am not that good at it. Lots of research and trial and error. I still haven't gotten the cd/dvd rule working 100%. Can't get the unmounting to work when the disc is ejected. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415083043.4163d...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: apt stuck at Reading database
On 04/14/2015 03:59 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:42:45AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: IIRC apt-listbugs or apt-listchanges (or both) don't work without the deb-src entries in /etc/apt/sources.list. Works fine for me. Did you *actually* try it? It works fine for me, too -- now. But, as I've said elsewhere, I remember that aptitude stopped being able to display changelogs when I removed the deb-src lines from my sources.list. That was years ago, and someone on this list (I think) told me to place the deb-src lines back in the sources.list file. After that, everything was fine. I don't think I'm misremembering because I did find old notes about the problem in a journal. Unfortunately, those notes don't mention whether this was a bug or a feature. I should have checked before offering my recollection. My only defense is that I did preface it with IIRC. But I also neglected to mention that I was talking about the display of changelogs on files that were available for upgrade from within aptitude. That's a pretty specific set of circumstances. I shall now don the pointy hat and sit in the corner. ;-) Regards, JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e7edf.6080...@comcast.net
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 07:50:50 -0700 David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 04/15/2015 05:04 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/ That article shows how to create a LUKS container on the raw drive. I prefer creating a partition table, creating one large primary partition, and putting a LUKS container into that. And you are free to do so. The approach is still basically the same. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpSWBr35153R.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
On 04/15/2015 10:50 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 04/15/2015 05:04 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/ That article shows how to create a LUKS container on the raw drive. I prefer creating a partition table, creating one large primary partition, and putting a LUKS container into that. David Being that I'm looking at doing pretty much the same, i.e., encrypting an external 1T USB drive, this thread is interesting to me too. What options or features does one get by putting the LUKS container in a partition rather than putting it on a raw drive? tnx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e7d2d.4050...@mousecar.com
samba issue
Hi folks :-) on debian stable I've a default samba file sharing config. Everything works perfectly (almost...). From linux and windows clients (wired and wifi too) when I (i.e. listen musics) often (one time every 4/5 minutes) networks collapse (for less one second) and later goes up. So I've an interrupt of broadcast. Using rsync or wget for transfer files from same server I don't have the problem (avoiding samba service). I've several network interfaces, this problem happens on all interfaces. samba logs (debug) nothing of good to audit, system log none, iptables is ok, I tried with minimal services (samba only), I try to modify tcp socks to tuning samba but nothing... also rebooting the server :-D now: what should I do? thanks for help! :-) Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e832f.7030...@fuckaround.org
Re: L'écran tactile sous Linux
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 22:24:46 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:41:35 +0200 Daniel Huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit: Le 11/04/2015 18:52, André a écrit : Sous Trinity c'est décevant. Le point noir : pas de clavier virtuel qui apparaît automatiquement lors d'un formulaire par exemple C'est pas la faute à l'écran tactile, c'est à l'application de gérer cela Je ne vois pas en quoi ça intéresse l'appli de savoir que les données sont saisies depuis un clavier tactile ou depuis un clavier physique ? Gaëtan Et quand tu utilises ton PC tactile 100% en tablette, il faut bien un clavier virtuel, comme les mobiles. Mais peut-être tu n'as pas saisi la question qui était : l'activation automatique du clavier virtuel, lorsque on utilise le PC tactile en mode tablette. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504151836.31183.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
On 04/15/2015 08:01 AM, ken wrote: What options or features does one get by putting the LUKS container in a partition rather than putting it on a raw drive? I am not aware of any technical advantages or disadvantages of LUKS on a raw drive vs. LUKS on a partition. For me, it's more a matter of personal habit/ psychology in the face of several computers, many drives, and changing conditions over the years. Prior to running encrypted drives, I used to wipe (zero) drives when I took them out of service. Since migrating to LUKS partitions, sometimes I wipe, sometimes I shred, and sometimes I just put the drive aside. So now when I grab a spare drive off the shelf, I look for a partition table: 1. If the first megabyte has been zeroed: 2015-04-15 08:54:44 root@t2250 ~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1M count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 1.10429 s, 950 kB/s 2015-04-15 08:56:11 root@t2250 ~ # parted /dev/sdc u s p free Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label 2. If the first megabyte has been filled with random numbers: 2015-04-15 08:56:14 root@t2250 ~ # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdc bs=1M count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 0.459263 s, 2.3 MB/s 2015-04-15 08:56:41 root@t2250 ~ # parted /dev/sdc u s p free Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label 3. If the raw drive has a LUKS container: 2015-04-15 08:56:54 root@t2250 ~ # cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sdc WARNING! This will overwrite data on /dev/sdc irrevocably. Are you sure? (Type uppercase yes): YES Enter LUKS passphrase: Verify passphrase: 2015-04-15 08:57:49 root@t2250 ~ # parted /dev/sdc u s p free Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label Note that the output of parted is the same for all three cases -- Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label. So, if the drive had a raw LUKS container, I'd mistake it as zeroed or shredded, and proceed to destroy the data. If the drive has a partition table and one large partition with a LUKS container: 2015-04-15 08:57:52 root@t2250 ~ # parted /dev/sdc mklabel gpt Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab. 2015-04-15 09:00:00 root@t2250 ~ # parted /dev/sdc mkpart primary 0% 100% Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab. 2015-04-15 09:00:32 root@t2250 ~ # cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sdc1 WARNING! This will overwrite data on /dev/sdc1 irrevocably. Are you sure? (Type uppercase yes): YES Enter LUKS passphrase: Verify passphrase: 2015-04-15 09:00:48 root@t2250 ~ # parted /dev/sdc u s p free Model: SanDisk SanDisk Cruzer (scsi) Disk /dev/sdc: 7913471s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Number Start End Size File system Name Flags 34s 2047s 2014s Free Space 1 2048s 7911423s 7909376s primary 7911424s 7913437s 2014s Free Space Now '/dev/sdc u s p free' shows a partition table with an entry, so I would be prompted to figure out what is in that partition. LUKS? LVM? ZFS? Something else? Better not stomp on it just yet... David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e92f4.7010...@holgerdanske.com
Re: bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd
'soir, @maderios Sauf que l'utilisation des BSD étant très confidentielle... Confidentielle ?? ...pauvreté de l'offre des logiciels... *BSD et *Linux sont très similaires sur le fond, mais sur la forme Debian te mâche le plus gros du travail. La richesse (ou pauvreté comme tu disais) des logiciels est en fonction de l'orientation de la distribution et de tes besoins. Si tu espères faire du PlayOnLinux sur du pfSense c'est que tu t'es planté de distrib, mais cela ne veut pas dire qu'elle est pauvre dans son offre. De plus il me semble que FreeBSD propose en général, bien avant Debian, les nouvelles releases des logiciels les plus couramment utilisés. Et je n'aborde pas les ports de FreeBSD pour tous les mordus de la compil. Matériel mal supporté, des problèmes d'Irq, des bugs, ma machine transformée en brouette... Il est évident que FreeBSD c'est pas : je clique, j'installe et ça marche. C'est ce qui freine la plupart des nouveaux venus. Mais vois cela comme une chance que d'apprendre à configurer ta machine de A à Z plutôt que de laisser passer les scripts d'install pour faire une config standard. La doc de FreeBSD est bien fournie, les mailing lists sont dynamiques et en bonus tu as un forum ultra actif. Il est vrai que les *BSD ont un temps de retard sur les distributions Linux en terme de support matériel, mais en général sur des machines grand public de plus de 5 ans tout se passe plutôt bien. Par exemple sur mon laptop (Thinkpad X201) FreeBSD 11 offre des performances qui n'ont rien à voir avec une Debian 8, même si à la base la config a été plus longue, au final je dispose des mêmes outils que sous Debian avec un gain de performance non négligeable (et dans la foulée je n'ai pas à me plier à systemd qui est imposé à l'installation de Debian, mais c'est un autre débat). Si tu te sens mieux avec Debian c'est que tu as trouvé ce qu'il te fallait. Si Tito pense trouver son bonheur sur FreeBSD il a très certainement ses raisons et il est le bienvenu (que ça te plaise ou non). Si tu penses que FreeBSD te fait revenir 15 ans en arrière c'est que c'est pas fait pour toi et que tu ne t'ai certainement pas pris la peine de l'exploiter autant que ta Deb. FreeBSD n'est pas le meilleur système et Debian non plus. D'ailleurs le meilleur système ne veut rien dire, c'est relatif, tout dépend de ce qu'on en fait, de ses besoins. Pour finir je rejoins Tito sur la déception que Debian kFreeBSD soit abandonné car FreeBSD et Debian sont d'excellents systèmes et je me fais une joie quotidienne de travailler avec. Salutations Grégory Reinbold On 04/14/2015 12:13 PM, maderios wrote: On 04/14/2015 11:19 AM, BERTRAND Joël wrote: maderios a écrit : On 04/13/2015 08:23 PM, Grégory Reinbold wrote: Welcome on FreeBSD! Grégory Reinbold Ouai... Je vais être dur. J'ai installé et utilisé Freebsd l'année dernière, je n'ai pas du tout été convaincu. Matériel mal supporté, des problèmes d'Irq, des bugs, ma machine transformée en brouette, pauvreté de l'offre des logiciels. Impression de revenir 15 ans en arrière. Désolé... Mais bon, quand on aime... Bonjour Avec les BSD, tu as les mêmes problèmes qu'avec Linux. Matériels plus ou moins supportés, BIOS/UEFI moisis et j'en passe. J'ai des exemples de machines qui tournent vraiment mieux sous xBSD que sous Linux et d'autres qui fonctionnent mieux sous Linux. Mais je dois dire que l'Aspire 1700 que ma femme utilise au quotidien fonctionne vraiment mieux avec un FreeBSD 10.1 qu'avec une debian Jessie. Sauf que l'utilisation des BSD étant très confidentielle, l'effort pour développer et maintenir les programmes est moindre, d'où le fait que certains matériels récents ne sont pas bien supportés, ce fut certainement le cas pour moi. Après, il est vrai qu'un BSD arrive brut de fonderie et qu'il faut le configurer. Mais une fois configuré, il n'y a pas vraiment de différence. Si la configuration du système te fait peur, il peut te rester Nexenta. C'est un noyau Solaris avec un userland GNU (et apt-get). La dernière fois que je l'ai installé, ça s'est fait tout seul, les doigts dans le nez jusqu'à la configuration du serveur X et du réseau. Je préfère réserver mon temps à des systèmes qui apportent un plus, par exemple *Openwrt* sur un routeur. Les possibilités sont immenses, surtout avec 'extroot' sur usb, et ça marche bien. Il existe même une Debian pour Openwrt. Pour celles et ceux que cela intéresse: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWRT http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07/ar71xx/generic/packages/ http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/extroot/extroot.theory -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:
Re: Encrypting an External HDD
You can try this guide: http://kaivanov.blogspot.com/2015/03/block-device-encryption-with-cryptsetup.html On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Stephen R Guglielmo srguglie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I have a USB external HDD that I would like to encrypt with a passphrase. After looking into filesystems, I decided to go with Ext4. What's the recommended way of encrypting a drive? Do I partition it first, then encrypt that partition? Internet searches lead me to LUKS cryptsetup. However, the blog and forum posts I've read are a bit old. I'm running Jessie. Thank you!
.listadmin.ini and Mailman 2.1.14
Hi,
I'm using listadmin (
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=listadmin ) to manage
my Mailman lists on several different Mailman installations. I'm
having trouble with one of the Mailman installations, which is
version 2.1.14 (it should work with listadmin).
I suspect I have some syntactic error in the .listadmin.ini file.
Mailman is running at a subdomain, mailman.efn.no . One of the
lists has this address: datahisto...@mailman.efn.no
and I have this entry for the list in .listadmin.ini :
username tho...@efn.no
spamlevel 5
default discard
password ..
adminurl http://{domain}/mailman/admin/{list}
datahisto...@mailman.efn.no
Is the adminurl syntax correct? Or is there something else which
is wrong or lacking?
(The Mailman users list directed me to ask my question here.)
Thomas Gramstad
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Re: [HS] L'écran tactile sous Linux = Recherches dans les archives de la liste :
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 21:16:36 maderios wrote: On 04/14/2015 07:32 PM, André wrote: Je proteste vigoureusement sur : ne pas faire l'effort de chercher sur le Net. Me concernant, j'ai passé beaucoup de temps via Google : tactile sous linux , tactile sous Jessie... , onscreen and Linux sans résultat probant, sans compter les infos et ML des tutos d'Ubuntu. Heu... La moindre recherche Gougueule 'tactile+debian' fait apparaître (Environ 115 000 résultats) 'Synaptics' (pas Synaptic) Sinon: apt-cache search touchpad xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server Maderios Heu... j'avais vu ces résultats... Il ne s'agit pas d'un pavé tactile (touchpad) mais d'un clavier tactile azerty complet, comme sur les mobiles, en anglais onscreen virtual keyboard. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504151843.02053.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: Problemas com codeblocks
Como EU resolveria essa questão, levando em conta que EU não quero atualizar a distro: pegava os fontes dos pacotes acusados como dependencia, criava os pacotes debian de cada um colocando no debian/rules os detalhes do pacote que está sendo solicitado (nome, versão, etc), e instalava na mão com o dpkg. Pegar pacotes por aí não resolverá o problema, pois as chances do codeblock não reconhecer que a dependencia está instalada porque tem um - (traço) no nome em vez de _ (underline) são maiores do que qualquer coisa. Além disso, vc pode danificar outros pacotes e até inviabilizar sua distro. Pegue esta linha como exemplo:codeblocks : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Aí fala que o pacote solicitado tem de ser maior o igual a versão 2.8.12, mas apenas a versão 2.8.10, portanto uma versão menor, está disponível para a instalação. Portanto a ação a ser tomada é pegar os fontes da versão 2.8.12 ou maior, que pode ser no próprio repositório source de sua distro já preparado para ser compilado e empacotado, e editar o debian/rules para ajustar aos valores de sua distro, e gerar seu próprio pacote do libwxbase2.8-0. Desde que a versão dos pacotes necessários para compilar o libwxbase na versão mais nova estejam disponíveis na sua distro, é um trabalho relativamente simples e rápido. Tem muito tutorial de como fazer isso por aí, o mais prático é o guia de pacotes debian escrito pelo Kov. Mas genericamente é o seguinte: apt-get build-dep libwxbase (baixa toda a tralha necessária para compilar) pegar os fontes da versão maior que 2.8.12 e compilar criando o pacote deb. Ainda existe um truque: adicionar uma linha de repositório Debian de uma versão superior com apenas os repositórios fontes no seu source.lists, depois executar: apt-get source -b libwxbase (baixa o fonte do pacote, compila e constrói o pacote deb pra vc) PS: se o pacote codeblocks está plenamente funcional sem o pacote libwxbase2.8-0 apontado como dependência, você pode fazer uma gambiarra e criar um pacote vazio com esse nome e instalar para enganar o sistema de dependencias. Eu fiz isso uma vez, quando o Debian Slink ainda era testing ... -- Esta mensagem não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluindo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridículas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 11:21, Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br escreveu: Olá gente bom dia. Estou em um gNewSense 3.1 Parkes derivado do Debian Squeeze, portanto old-stable. Logo, estável mais que velho, e prosseguirei com ele até onde conseguir. Instalado há bastante tempo. Tem gente dizendo no fórum do Codeblocks ainda em 2013 que esse problema acontecia já naquela época com a versão 12.11 do programa Codeblocks, compilador de algoritmos. Utilizo ele no curso técnico em informática no IFET, só que no Windows. É um software GNU GPL que instalei aqui com alguns problemas de dependências e agora toda vez que vou desinstalar ou instalar alguma coisa nova aparece isso: Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto Construindo árvore de dependências Lendo informação de estado... Pronto Pacotes virtuais como 'unrar' não podem ser removidos Você deve querer executar 'apt-get -f install' para corrigí-los: Os pacotes a seguir têm dependências desencontradas: codeblocks : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Recomenda: gdb mas não será instalado codeblocks-contrib : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Recomenda: valgrind mas não será instalado Recomenda: cppcheck mas não será instalado Recomenda: cscope mas não será instalado Recomenda: mas não será instalado codeblocks-libwxcontrib0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado libcodeblocks0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado libwxsmithlib0 : Depende: libwxbase2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado Depende: libwxgtk2.8-0 (= 2.8.12.1) mas 2.8.10.1-3+b1 está para ser instalado E: Dependências desencontradas. Tente 'apt-get -f install' sem nenhum pacote (ou especifique uma solução).
Re: Debian 8 release
Den 12 april 2015 14:06 skrev Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com: Men Hotell Gästis ligger ju i Varberg! ..och har en välkänd persons porträtt målad på ytterdörren. En gång när jag gick förbi den dörren, så stog det en gubbe utanför, och sa till mig vet du vem detta är som är målad här. Nej svarade jag, eftersom jag då inte visste vem det var. Sen frågade han mig flera gånger, och fick samma svar. Efter det så har jag förstått vem gubben jag träffade var. Det var han själv.. :). Gissa om jag kände mig dum, när jag väl kom på det. -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADT_QgvFmmM9+N3M5E1-BR7jr1kpYw=fg9n1tuvfbhj4ma6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: samba issue
Pol Hallen wrote: now: what should I do? /etc/samba/smb.conf: socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 do you have this in the smb.conf file? might help regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mgmafn$2nq$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: wheezy drive recognition?
On Wednesday 15 April 2015 11:36:38 David Wright wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): Greetings drive guru's; I have a 3 drive hot swap cage in my machine for a couple years now, and no it is NOT setup as a raid of any kind. It has had a triplet of 1T seagate drives in it since installing it. My main boot drive had a 10.04-4 LTS Ubuntu install on it, but the drive went read only a couple months back, so I swapped the top 2 and put wheezy on what is now /dev/sda. I eventually had copied off what I needed from the old drive so I removed it, leaving slot 2 empty while I ordered up 2 more drives from TigerDirect, but had to settle for the 2Tb version this time. Tonight I cut the blisterpack off the first of the 2Tb drives and slid it into slot 2. Wheezy, with SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux kernel running cannot connect to it, doing this from /var/log/messages: Apr 14 21:14:33 coyote kernel: [1098002.318613] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:14:39 coyote kernel: [1098008.240015] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19) Apr 14 21:14:43 coyote kernel: [1098012.328022] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:14:49 coyote kernel: [1098018.256019] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19) Apr 14 21:14:53 coyote kernel: [1098022.344027] ata2: hard resetting link Apr 14 21:14:59 coyote kernel: [1098028.264018] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19) Followed by quite a few megabytes of this: Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934065] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934070] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934074] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.934081] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935512] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935515] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935518] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track Apr 14 21:15:27 coyote kernel: [1098055.935522] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 I got the impression that it was not even spinning up. I don't know what you did 50 seconds after you plugged in your new drive, but those sr0 messages look as if you/the system tried to read an empty DVD/CD drive. I tend to think the drive caused udev to lose its mind, but thats just a SWAG at this point as I have not powered down and attached the drive to another pair of currently unused cables hanging out that would be sata-4. 5 is indeed a dvd writer If I properly recall which cable is plugged in where. From what I am seeing, the cables could be swapped and I don't recall doing it. Short term memory would be to blame in that case, I'll need to get out a flashlight and verify in any event since I don't trust my memory of something 3+ years old anyway. If you get no more lines like the ones below, (ata/sd) then it would seem it hasn't recognised what's on the new disk. If it's straight from the blister pack, what might you find on it? (All the naked drives I've acquired have been second-hand.) Big disks I've bought recently have NTFS filesystems on them. Generally, I would assume it has an NTFS on it, and that is an option rarely enabled in one of my home-brew kernels. This one however is a Wheezy supplied kernel. A quick lsmod does not disclose any NTFS stuff loaded after the log explosion. I think I'll burn that cd of the seagate dos utils and see what it says, which will entail a power down reboot if I put it on the spare cables, or something along those lines that will force me to do a P.D. reboot. Uptime is currently about 12 days. And we have at least 10 days before Jessie is declared, so I haven't been in a life or death hurry. Since I woke up this morning, which is a good sign at my age, I'll put that off a few hours. ;-) [...] Cheers, David. Thanks David. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504151337.43912.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: [HS] L'écran tactile sous Linux = Recherches dans les archives de la liste :
On 04/15/2015 06:43 PM, André wrote: Il ne s'agit pas d'un pavé tactile (touchpad) mais d'un clavier tactile azerty complet, comme sur les mobiles, en anglais onscreen virtual keyboard. Ok = Je prends la [] (faut avouer que le 'tactile' me gonfle, c'est plein de microbes...) Par ailleurs Gougueule 'debian onscreen virtual keyboard' = Environ 1 640 000 résultats (0,72 secondes) -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552ea4e9.4050...@gmail.com
Re: Checksum controle tijdens installeren package
Paul van der Vlis schreef op di 07-04-2015 om 13:47 [+0200]: [...] Het lijkt me ook behoorlijk zinloos eigenlijk. Stel je download zo'n package en de bron is niet veilig, dan is daar vast ook die checksum aangepast lijkt me. Is er hier iemand die meer weet? Daarvoor is er de GPG-ondertekening... Zie https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt voor meer uitleg. -- Jan Claeys -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1429120195.25489.251.ca...@janc.be
Re: Book questions
On 04/14/2015 11:11 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: I find the Friedman books better. Which books? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552ea548.6040...@holgerdanske.com
Re: OpenVPN doesn't restart after sleep
lukn555 wrote: Sorry for the late reply, I suffered the same but I only just found out how to fix this: I am glad you have something that works for you. However I read this and it feels like a workaround for a deeper problem. I applaud you sharing your solution with us. Thank you for doing that. But it should not be needed. $ cat /lib/systemd/system-sleep/openvpn.sh ... /bin/systemctl restart openvpn $ cat /etc/pm/sleep.d/99openvpn ... /etc/init.d/openvpn restart Basically restart openvpn after suspending. For both init systems. That is a big hammer. My question would be why that is needed. Openvpn will periodically test connectivity. After suspend the clock time will have expired and openvpn will probe connectivity. This will cause openvpn to restart the connection itself. That is what it does in my examination of the behavior on my laptops. I use openvpn all of the time on my laptops. I don't need to restart it specially when resuming from suspend. There are still some open questions about the nature of the failure. Such as whether the failure is actually networking related or DNS related. If one can ping by address then openvpn itself has successfully created a network connection. If it is DNS related then there is a different tree of questions to work down through. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problemas com codeblocks
On 15-04-2015 11:20, Thiago Zoroastro wrote: Estou em um gNewSense 3.1 Parkes derivado do Debian Squeeze, portanto old-stable. Logo, estável mais que velho, e prosseguirei com ele até onde conseguir. Instalado há bastante tempo. Tem gente dizendo no fórum do Codeblocks ainda em 2013 que esse problema acontecia já naquela época com a versão 12.11 do programa Codeblocks, compilador de algoritmos. Utilizo ele no curso técnico em informática no IFET, só que no Windows. É um software GNU GPL que instalei aqui com alguns problemas de dependências e agora toda vez que vou desinstalar ou instalar alguma coisa nova aparece isso: [...] Minha dúvida é se terei de substituir os pacotes com cuidado não pelo repositório, mas substituindo um por um pelas versões oficiais liberados nos sites deles. Alguem poderia dar uma luz? Estou verificando a disponibilidade da substituição desses pacots na internet, mas não sei o impacto deles no sistema. Se alguém puder/quiser ajudar responde aí. O Codeblocks está rodando, já até fiz uns dois algoritmos. Olá! Seguinte, quando preciso de algo assim, crio uma jaula com uma versão do Debian que tenho certeza que rodaria, tipo a stable, com o comando [1], depois entro na jaula com os comandos [2,3,4], configuro o locales com [5,6,7,8,9], procuro dependências com o comando [10] e instalo com o [11], sendo assim o menos traumático possível. Contudo, para rodar a parte gráfica, precisa editar editar o [GKX]DM para aceitar conexões TCP, no caso do GDM seria acionar em [12] as linhas [13,14] e reiniciar o GDM ou o computador, depois dentro da jaula direcionar o display com [15], depois é só instalar o que você quer e rodar dentro da jaula. Nas próximas vezes que for usar a jaula, use [4], se reiniciar, executar [2,3] antes, [1] debootstrap stable diretório_da_jaula [2] mount -t proc none diretório_da_jaula/proc [3] mount -t sysfs none diretório_da_jaula/sys [4] chroot diretório_da_jaula [5] apt-get update [6] apt-get install locales [7] sed -i 's/# \(pt_...UTF-8\)/\1/' /etc/locale.gen [8] sed -i 's/# \(en_US.UTF-8\)/\1/' /etc/locale.gen [9] locale-gen [10] apt-cache search pacote_a_procurar # exemplo libwx [11] apt-get install pacote_a_instalar # exemplo libwxgtk2.8-0 [12] /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf [13] [security] [14] DisallowTCP = false [15] export DISPLAY=ip_de_alguma_interce:tela # exemplo 192.168.0.100:0 Obs: no [15], às vezes apenas :0 funciona, que é o padrão, não necessitando o [15], teste instalando x11-apps e rodando xclock sem o [15], depois teste com o :0 e então com o ip:0. Coloque esse export em /root/.bashrc dentro da jaula para não ter que ficar digitando toda vez. -- []'s Junior Polegato
variable globale d'environnement
Bonjour à toutes et à tous. J'utilise une Debian 8 (Jessie) avec lightdm et MATE. Je cherchais un moyen de définir une variable, appelons la MA_VARIABLE et sa valeur : ma_valeur. Si j'ai bien lu et compris toutes les documentations de ces dernières 72 heures (entre autres [1], [2], [3] et [4]), il y a plusieurs endroits où je peux définir ceci : Côté système avec : * /etc/profile * /etc/profile.d/* * /etc/environment * /etc/bash.bashrc Côté utilisateur : * ~/.bash_profile * ~/.bashrc * ~/.profile * ~/.pam_environment Je cherche à définir cette variable de manière globale, c'est à dire pour le système et donc, pour tous les utilisateurs du système. Dehors donc les ~/.* . Si j'ai bien compris : - lorsque le processus 1 démarre, il regarde dans /etc/profile qui lui dit de regarder aussi les /etc/profile.d/* - lorsque lightdm démarre, il regarde à nouveau dans /etc/profile (et donc aussi dans /etc/profile.d/*) puis dans /etc/environment J'ai donc mis : MA_VARIABLE=ma_valeur. export MA_VARIABLE dans /etc/profile À partir de là, si je redémarre, et que j'arrive sous MATE, j'ai ces 2 choses : - avec le ALT-CTRL-F1 (c'est TTY1 ça, il me semble), alors env |grep MA_VARIABLE me montre bien que ma variable est propagée ici. Pas de soucis. - si je lance un mate-terminal depuis MATE, le même env |grep MA_VARIABLE ne me retourne rien. Je trouve ça étrange puisque de mon point de vue, les définitions dans /etc/profile devraient s'appliquer partout. Ceci dit, j'ai lu sur les différentes doc que ça n'est pas aussi simple. Du coup, j'ai essayé de placer MA_VARIABLE dans /etc/environment puisque en censé lightdm lit ce fichier [4]. Marche pas non plus, même cas qu'au dessus. Puis j'ai placé dans /etc/bash.bashrc : MA_VARIABLE=ma_valeur. export MA_VARIABLE Et là, ça fonctionne. Vu que les fichiers dans /etc/ sont utilisés pour tous les utilisateurs, je pense être arrivé à peu près à ce que je voulais. (Ceci dit, ça ne me semble pas très propre.) Cependant, j'aimerai comprendre : * pourquoi ça ne fonctionne pas simplement en mettant ma variable dans /etc/profile ? Pour ça, j'imagine que la réponse est lightdm ne regarde pas dans /etc/profile mais je ne l'ai pas lu sur la toile. Une confirmation serait chouette. * pourquoi ça ne fonctionne pas simplement en mettant ma variable dans /etc/environment ? Ça, j'ai l'impression que c'est sensé fonctionner si j'en crois [4]. Si j'ai bien compris la gestion des variables, elles sont héritées de processus-parent en processus-enfant. Et si je suis juste dans ma compréhension, le démarrage (à partir d'init) se passe ainsi : 1a) init démarre et lance ce qui se trouve dans init.d - à ce stade, aucun environnement général n'est défini et les variables sont définies en interne par chaque script présent dans /etc/init.d/* 1b) puis init démarre le login text qui regarde dans /etc/passwd quel shell utiliser 1c) init lance le shell (dans mon cas, bash) et lit les fichiers de configuration suivants : * /etc/profile (définition globale) * ~/.bash_profile , ~/.bash_login et ~/.profile (définition par utilisateur, donc pas intéressant dans mon cas) Ceci fait en sorte que les variables sont bien propagées dans mes TTY (en root et en utilisateur) 2a) init démarre lightdm qui est censé lire /etc/environment (configuration multi-user - donc, ça aurait dû fonctionner lorsque j'ai essayé de déclarer ma variable ici) 2b) lightdm démarre MATE (qui devrait donc aurait dû hériter de ce qu'il y avait dans /etc/environment ) 2c) sous MATE, je démarre mate-terminal qui aurait dû hériter de MATE, donc de lightdm, et donc in fine, de /etc/environment Il doit forcément y avoir quelque chose de faux dans mon raisonnement mais j'ai beau tourné et retourné les docs, je ne vois pas. Vos lumières seront appréciées ici. Il me reste un deuxième point d'interrogation : MA_VARIABLE est bien propagée dans mes TTY et dans mes mate-terminal grâce aux configurations de /etc/profile et /etc/bash.bashrc . Ceci dit, il y a une petite voix qui me dit que, si mate-terminal n'a pas hérité automatiquement de MA_VARIABLE par son ascendance, et qu'il m'a fallu coller une deuxième fois cette variable dans le /etc/bash.bashrc , alors certainement que mon environnement MATE tout entier n'a pas hérité de cette variable et ne la connaît donc pas, ce qui m'embête car je cherche à définir cette variable de manière globale. Ceci étant, je suis bien nu su cette question car je ne sais pas comment vérifier si mon environnement de bureau (MATE) connaît cette variable ou pas. La logique où j'en suis arrivé me dit que non. Merci d'avance pour vos lumières, Olivier PS : J'ai bien vu qu'il devait y avoir une possibilité de scripter quelque chose grâce aux /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf et autres fichiers de conf de lightdm. Je regarderai certainement plus avant ces possibilités dans les jours qui viennent, mais j'aimerai vraiment comprendre pourquoi ça ne fonctionne pas avec
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015, at 16:57, Bob Proulx wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: 2. unmount filesystem and run e2fsck -D on it every so often. Every so often? That phrase roused my interest. Wouldn't exactly once be enough? Yes, as long as nobody ever creates a massive number of entries in a directory that is not going to be rmdir'd again after you did the e2fsck -D... So, every so often... I think there are two issues under discussion. One is if dir_index has been applied. For that once would be enough. Yes. But dir_index is about locating files fast for open() or stat() in massive directories, not shrinking a very sparse one. And BTW, a directory has very little information about a file. In fact, in simplified terms it usually has only the file name and the inode number, everything else is related to how the filesystem implements the directory itself (such as h-tree topology information). Everything else about the file is in the inode (including size, access times, attributes, ACLs, xattrs, hardlink count). And inode tables are not stored together with the directory: they're in reserved areas of the filesystem for inode tables, while the directories are inside the data area, at least in ext4 and XFS. Do note that it can happen that a directory with very few entries could be stored entirely inside the inode for (.), should it be small enough. Depends on the filesystem. This means you effectively loaded that directory when you caused its parent to be loaded. # fsck -D /dev/v1/test fsck from util-linux 2.25.2 e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) /dev/mapper/v1-test: clean, 13/25688 files, 9121/102400 blocks This produced no change in that directory size. It does not appear to me that e2fsck -D compacts existing empty directories. Hmm, you could try e2fsck -D, not fsck -D. If e2fsck also refuses to do anything, try e2fsck -D -f to force it to check a clean filesystem. I am not immediately sure how to create a new ext file system without dir_index. Otherwise I would do a quick test to verify that it does actually add dir_index to existing directories. tune2fs -O ^dir_index, then e2fsck -D (maybe with -f) should remove dir_index, AFAIK. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1429129567.3798432.254285589.3c57a...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Re: Subject: network-console installation and ssh keys
On 20150414_2134+, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-04-14, David Wright da...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: I like the new Network Console option in the installer. However, when I reinstall Debian onto a machine called, say, desk select the necessary options, type in the password for the installer session, and then sit back with a machine called, lap, when I type ssh installer@desk I get the usual @@@ @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ @@@ IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! It is also possible that a host key has just been changed. The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is because the installer has generated and is running with fresh keys. (I frequently connect from lap to desk and vice versa and so have authorised_keys as well as know_hosts there.) What do most people do here? On this one, I think *most*people* are like me. I ignore the warning. Unless I am doing the install in a coffee shop with 'free' internet access that I have never used before. But at home, if I am using an ISP that I have been using for several years, and that has a good reputation in my part of the world, I know the warning does not apply to me, in my particular situation. HTH, YMMY, etc., etc. Cheers, David. Put the following in ~/.ssh/config: Host desk UserKnownHostsFile /dev/null StrictHostKeyChecking no See the man page of ssh_config for details. I think this will silence the warning forever, or at least until you think to delete those lines from your ~/.ssh/config. I do not want to do that, because I am too cautious to commit, long term, to such a departure from what Debian gurus consider to be best practice. ;-) YMMV, Cheers, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415202628.ga16...@big.lan.gnu
Re: paquet wifi
Le Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:05:02 +0100 Alex PADOLY apado...@padoly.besaba.com a écrit: Bonsoir, J'ai installé le paquet wicd, il apparait près de l'horloge, mais il indique aucune connexion wifi, pourtant j'utilise celle de ma box Internet. Faut-il configurer wicd? Oui, il faut lui indiquer les noms des interfaces dans les préférences. F.Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415222757.dec79a8516924e2c9050d...@maison.homelinux.net
Re: L'écran tactile sous Linux
Le Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:36:31 +0200 André andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 22:24:46 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:41:35 +0200 Daniel Huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit: Le 11/04/2015 18:52, André a écrit : Sous Trinity c'est décevant. Le point noir : pas de clavier virtuel qui apparaît automatiquement lors d'un formulaire par exemple C'est pas la faute à l'écran tactile, c'est à l'application de gérer cela Je ne vois pas en quoi ça intéresse l'appli de savoir que les données sont saisies depuis un clavier tactile ou depuis un clavier physique ? Gaëtan Et quand tu utilises ton PC tactile 100% en tablette, il faut bien un clavier virtuel, comme les mobiles. Mais peut-être tu n'as pas saisi la question qui était : l'activation automatique du clavier virtuel, lorsque on utilise le PC tactile en mode tablette. Doit y avoir un truc qui m'échappe parce que je ne vois toujours pas en quoi ça serait à l'appli de gérer ça. Quand on passe en mode tablette pour moi c'est au système à mettre ce qu'il faut à disposition pour que l'on puisse saisir des données. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415223659.bf9f118442a82fcff6954...@neuf.fr
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: 2. unmount filesystem and run e2fsck -D on it every so often. Every so often? That phrase roused my interest. Wouldn't exactly once be enough? Yes, as long as nobody ever creates a massive number of entries in a directory that is not going to be rmdir'd again after you did the e2fsck -D... So, every so often... But I think it doesn't actually work to shrink directories. :-( I think there are two issues under discussion. One is if dir_index has been applied. For that once would be enough. Yes. But dir_index is about locating files fast for open() or stat() in massive directories, not shrinking a very sparse one. Right. That is why I said there were two issues under discussion. :-) # fsck -D /dev/v1/test fsck from util-linux 2.25.2 e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) /dev/mapper/v1-test: clean, 13/25688 files, 9121/102400 blocks This produced no change in that directory size. It does not appear to me that e2fsck -D compacts existing empty directories. Hmm, you could try e2fsck -D, not fsck -D. Of course we know that fsck simply passed through to the appropriate underlying driver fsck, e2fsck in this case. The output says say. But this is trivially easy for me to do too so here it is. (It really is the same.) root@havoc:~# lvcreate -L100M -ntest v1 Logical volume test created root@havoc:~# mkfs -t ext4 /dev/v1/test mke2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) Creating filesystem with 102400 1k blocks and 25688 inodes Filesystem UUID: 47bf1774-75b9-4783-958c-7cbcab2e219b Superblock backups stored on blocks: 8193, 24577, 40961, 57345, 73729 Allocating group tables: done Writing inode tables: done Creating journal (4096 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done root@havoc:~# mount /dev/v1/test /mnt root@havoc:~# mkdir -p /mnt/junk/junk root@havoc:~# cd /mnt/junk/junk root@havoc:/mnt/junk/junk# for i in $(seq -w 1 1); do touch $i;done root@havoc:/mnt/junk/junk# for i in $(seq -w 1 1); do rm -f $i;done root@havoc:/mnt/junk/junk# cd root@havoc:~# \ls -ld /mnt/junk/junk drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 227328 Apr 15 14:35 /mnt/junk/junk root@havoc:~# umount /mnt root@havoc:~# e2fsck -D /dev/v1/test e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) /dev/v1/test: clean, 13/25688 files, 9119/102400 blocks root@havoc:~# mount /dev/v1/test /mnt root@havoc:~# \ls -ld /mnt/junk/junk drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 227328 Apr 15 14:35 /mnt/junk/junk Using 'e2fsck -D' by itself isn't shrinking the size of the empty directory. If e2fsck also refuses to do anything, try e2fsck -D -f to force it to check a clean filesystem. Ah! That was the secret! root@havoc:~# umount /mnt root@havoc:~# e2fsck -D -f /dev/v1/test e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 3A: Optimizing directories Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information /dev/v1/test: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED * /dev/v1/test: 14/25688 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 8899/102400 blocks root@havoc:~# \ls -ld /mnt/junk/junk drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Apr 15 14:35 /mnt/junk/junk It was necessary to -f force the fsck. So 'e2fsck -D -f' is required. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
Quoting Kushal Kumaran (kus...@locationd.net): Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: Petter Adsen wrote: Can someone please enlighten me as to why the entry for this directory is so large, even though it is empty? Since it's apparently obvious to everyone else, I would very much like to know :) snipped If a directory became full it was easy to extend it by writing the array longer. But if an early entry in the array was deleted the system would zero it out rather than move each and every entry in the file system down a slot. (I always wondered why they didn't simply take the *last* entry and move it down to the deleted entry and simply keep the array always compacted. I wonder. But they didn't do it that way.) I think the reason for this is that the entries have different lengths corresponding to the filenamelength, so you'd have to search for a slot small enough. Were this slot not the last entry, then keep repeating... I think I can see a pathological end-case here. Once you have trees, I'm out of my depth. But I read that trees have to be balanced, which may mean a whole new set of algorithms for pruning them. Moving entries around breaks ongoing readdir operations. If a readdir has gone past the file being removed, and you moved the last entry there, the entry being moved would be missed, despite *it* not being the entry added or removed. I don't think this matters. There's no guarantee that another process isn't writing to that directory while you are working your way along the entries. This whole discussion touches on one of the facts of life: people generally design things for extending, not for contracting. Ability to extend a design is an important criterion in its success. In the field of computers this is often coupled with backwards compatibility, so you can keep the old design going. People extend their houses, but they don't demolish an extension. They raze it all and start over. But they don't do it very often, so one doesn't select a house on the basis that it's easy to shrink, or quick to raze and rebuild. One looks at its steady-state performance, and that patch of waste ground next to it. The OP is happy to use a filesystem that can accomodate half a million files with no advance warning. Ext4 filesystems are designed to be able to grow by three orders of magnitude. I'm sure they won't be easy to shrink. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415191343.gb31...@alum.home
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
Cam Hutchison wrote: I don't think dir_index has anything to do with it. An index speeds up lookups. You are not doing lookups; you are traversing the entire data structure. I think you might be right about Vincent's problem. It seems there is a large amount of uncached data that needs to be read from disk. It takes a long time to read a lot of data from a large number of files. A B-tree data structure can take longer to traverse than a contiguous array data structure due to prefetching generally being beneficial to arrays, but less so to pointer-based structures. It's slow because every block of the directory needs to be read to get the contents, even if every block contains empty entries. You don't know that until you've read it. This depends exactly upon what you are doing, how you are doing it, and where do you enclose the boundary of the problem. For the usual case of opening a file the answer is no. It doesn't need to read the entire thing. That is the key point in B-trees and other external index data structures. When looking up a name only a much reduced set of disk blocks need to be read. With a B-tree the root node is stored first and read as the first disk block. That first block contains as many index entries as will fit. Let's say at least a 1000. Those entries are sorted and contain a multi-level index of other nodes. If the directory is small it may contain all of them in a single level index. If the directory is large then those entries will point to other directory nodes in a multi-level index. One page was loaded for the root node. Root nodes will usually be kept in cache ram making their accesses very fast. Using information from the root node will allow seeking to the next directory node that contains the filename being opened. Assuming 1000 entries per page this additional page load will contain another 1000 entries. A directory huge by today's standards may require 2-3 page reads only in order to open any file in a huge directory. Opening a file does not require reading the entire directory database. What is the order of lookup for a binary tree? Log base 2. A B-tree with a 1000 entries per page would have a page lookup order as per the number of entries per page. Log base 1000 in this case. This makes for a very shallow tree structure. This is the magic that allows a very few page reads to open any individual file. As compared to a linear array search. On the other hand if you enclose the problem at the highest level and look at the work needed to read every file in the directory then of course you will be traversing all of the data in both cases. That work outside of opening files is going to be the same. The file opening part will still be much better in the B-tree case because in the linear directory array case opening the file takes much longer. drwx-- 2 vlefevre vlefevre 8409088 2015-03-24 14:04:33 Mail/oldarc/cur/ Your large directory is about 3.5 times the size of this one, so we would expect all things being equal that it would take 30s to read the larger directory based on the time of reading your maildir. One thing that is likely not equal is fragmentation. It is quite possible that your 30MB directory is fragmented across the disk and involves many seeks to read it all. If you really want to know if this is the case, use debugfs(8) to have a look: Use filefrag to determine the file fragmentation? $ filefrag /var/tmp /var/tmp: 2 extents found $ filefrag -v ~/Mail/Lists/debian/user/cur ...lots of information... Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Swap?
On 15 Apr 2015 17:44 +0200, from rolfew...@gmail.com (Rolf Edlund): Hej Michael och Fredrik! Hoppas jag nu kan lita på er. ;) För om det är som ni säger, så kan jag helt strunta i att skippa swap. Jag kör själv med swap på SSD, dock har jag rejält tilltaget 32 GB RAM men ger istället SSDn stryk på annat sätt. Har en Intel 530 (180 GB) där både rotfilsystem, hemkatalog, ofta skrivna kataloger (dokument, epost, ...) och swap ligger. Jag har använt den i daglig drift sedan slutet av 2013 (säg ett och ett halvt år) inklusive en del suspend-to-disk hibernate, och SMART på den rapporterar media wearout indicator som 99 av 100, med threshold 0. Dvs en procent beräknad livslängd utnyttjad. På den sidan på Server Fault som jag länkade till tidigare finns några allmänna utlåtanden om olika SSDer, bl.a. att Intel med Sandforce-chipset är en robust men inte supersnabb lösning. Däremot, _oavsett om man har SSD eller roterande HDD_ som lagringslösning så ska man se till att ha bra säkerhetskopior! Det har jag lärt mig den hårda vägen och ser gärna att andra tar efter. Dels så är den siste klantskallen inte född än och dels så _kan_ hårdvara trots allt krångla eller gå sönder. Poängen är inte att en SSD inte kan gå sönder, utan att om/när den väl gör det i en klientmaskin så är det _förmodligen_ inte flashminnet som ger upp först. (Skrivintensiva serverapplikationer kan ställa till det för billigare SSDer, men i det fallet har man inte dimensionerat rätt.) Btw, det spelar alltså ingen roll vilken typ av flash minne som används ? Som MLC SLC NAND osv ? SLC/MLC/TLC spelar roll för antalet skrivcykler flashminnet klarar av (där är SLC bättre än MLC bättre än TLC) men ger dig också större lagringskapacitet i samma fysiska mängd chip vilket ger wear levelingen mer att jobba med. Det finns en anledning till att SLC SSDer är svåra att få tag på idag utanför väldigt specifika tillämpningar. sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSD-minne Det det bl.a står under Nackdelar Antalet skrivningar påverkar livslängden. Men det gäller ju även en vanlig HDD. Kan också jämföras med vad som står under Livslängd lite högre upp på sidan, till exempel nedstående exempel på hur tidigare SSDer hade en mer begränsad livslängd: Exempelvis Intels SSD X-25 från år 2009 skulle enligt företaget hålla i minst fem år om man skrev upp emot 20 GB/dag. Hur många hårddisktillverkare ger fem års garanti? Största nackdelen med SSD som jag ser det är fortfarande kostnaden per gigabyte lagringsyta, som trots allt ligger på i storleksordningen det tiodubbla mot sett till lagringsyta jämförbara hårddiskbaserade lösningar. Men behöver man inte mer än ett par hundra gigabyte så är priserna fullt överkomliga idag. -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • mich...@kjorling.se OpenPGP B501AC6429EF4514 https://michael.kjorling.se/public-keys/pgp “People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415200407.gy4...@yeono.kjorling.se
Re: paquet wifi
Bonsoir, J'ai installé le paquet wicd, il apparait près de l'horloge, mais il indique aucune connexion wifi, pourtant j'utilise celle de ma box Internet. Faut-il configurer wicd? Merci pour votre aide. Alex PADOLY Le 2015-04-07 19:02, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Tue, 07 Apr 2015 18:06:44 +0100, Alex PADOLY apado...@padoly.besaba.com a écrit : Bonsoir à tous, Je recherche un paquet debian qui me permettrait de recenser sur mon ordinateur portable tout les réseau wifi environnant et m'offrant la possibilité de me connecter à l'un d'entre eux. A la maison, je suis connecté à ma ''box'' mais quand j'étais chez des voisins, il ne trouvait pas ma box et ne m'a pas indiqué d'autres réseaux wifi. Merci pour votre réponse. Alex bonjour, serait il possible de tester wicd ? slt bernard
Re: Dropbox nao sincroniza
Como eu devo fazer para criar seu ícone no menu de aplicações? Em 15 de abril de 2015 09:19, Márcio de Araújo Benedito china...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Então fera, seu dropbox já tá rodando, é só vc configurar ele. -- Esta mensagem não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluindo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridículas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 9:04, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu: Quando dou o comado ~$ ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd Aparece essa mensagem Another instance of Dropbox (4060) is running! Em 15 de abril de 2015 08:54, Márcio de Araújo Benedito china...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Já que vc tem urgencia, vou tentar ajudar. Primeiro, aparentemente vc tá executando o dropbox pelo terminal como root. É isso mesmo? Vc não deveria executar o dropbox como seu usuário? Segundo, porque vc não usa o icone do Dropbox instalado pelo cliente oficial? Ou vc não tá usando o cliente oficial? Depois que você resolver seu problema com o Dropbox, recomendo fortemente que você abandone este serviço e migre para um serviço de armazenamento em nuvem pago e seguro. Existem muitas opções por aí. O Dropbox espiona sua máquina toda, não só o diretório onde o cliente deveria sincronizar. -- Esta mensagem não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluindo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridículas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! Em Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2015 8:37, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu: Estou com um problema do dropbox e preciso resolver isso o mais rápido possível. Atualizei o debian e consequentemente o dropbox foi desisntalado. Reinstalei porém ele nao sincroniza com meu PC, quando rodo o comando ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd ele mostra a seguinte mesnsagem: /root/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado -- Manoel -- Manoel -- Manoel
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: 2. unmount filesystem and run e2fsck -D on it every so often. Every so often? That phrase roused my interest. Wouldn't exactly once be enough? I think there are two issues under discussion. One is if dir_index has been applied. For that once would be enough. The second issue is reducing the size of the directory. I tried a test using ext4 and e2fsck -D and e2fsck -D did not reduce the size of the directory. Maybe I didn't push the size large enough. for i in $(seq -w 1 1); do touch $i;done for i in $(seq -w 1 1); do rm -f $i;done drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 229376 Apr 15 13:52 junk Then unmounted the file system and ran e2fsck -D upon it. # fsck -D /dev/v1/test fsck from util-linux 2.25.2 e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) /dev/mapper/v1-test: clean, 13/25688 files, 9121/102400 blocks This produced no change in that directory size. It does not appear to me that e2fsck -D compacts existing empty directories. I am not immediately sure how to create a new ext file system without dir_index. Otherwise I would do a quick test to verify that it does actually add dir_index to existing directories. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): On 2015-04-13 15:50:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: That's staggering. My /var/lib/dpkg/info has ~8900 files and occupies 462848 bytes. So that would be over ½million files in your case. Does eftests stand for excessive files tests! It means elementary function tests, but what this doesn't say is that these tests are exhaustive: 1 file = a small interval on which the double-precision function (e.g. exp, log) can be approximated by a small-degree polynomial, and the whole double-precision domain must be covered. Now, more interestingly, the fault is due to... proprietary software. I wrote these tests about 15 years ago and I needed rigorous interval arithmetic in multiple precision, and at that time, the Maple intpak package was the only thing I found (though a few years later, despite what its documentation said, it was shown that it was not rigorous at all, and I might have chosen a better solution with free software). So, I had to use Maple, and still use it (now with intpakX, which is better but still based on assumptions that could be wrong) because I haven't rewritten my tests completely. Maple is only used for ISO C code generation. In normal use, code is generated, then run, and after a few minutes (to get the result), the corresponding program can be removed, so that few files are present in such a directory at the same time. But some colleague in another lab needed these test files and he didn't have Maple. So, I had to generate all of them (yes, something like half a million) and give him a huge compressed tar file (not sent by e-mail, of course!). Good to see people testing their tools. Perhaps someone like you came across the famous HP35 bug. In the past, I expect you would have been forced to store your files in a tree using a method similar to Debian's pool to avoid running out of directory entries. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415191940.gc31...@alum.home
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
Vincent Lefevre wrote: Filesystem created: Mon Jan 4 16:26:16 2010 My machine is old, but I've never changed anything concerning the file system. 2010 isn't that old. Just a baby! :-) After a quick look on my network I located these. desolation: Filesystem created: Tue Feb 26 13:46:27 2008 despair: Filesystem created: Thu Oct 11 17:58:10 2007 devastation: Filesystem created: Tue Feb 26 15:31:37 2008 thrill: Filesystem created: Sun Jun 3 14:50:55 2007 I have been rolling over systems or I am sure I would have located older ones. If I turned on some archived systems I could almost certainly produce older ones. I also notice slowness with a large maildir directory: drwx-- 2 vlefevre vlefevre 8409088 2015-03-24 14:04:33 Mail/oldarc/cur/ In this one, the files are real (145400 files), but I have a Perl script that basically reads the headers and it takes a lot of time (several dozens of minutes) after a reboot or dropping the caches as you suggested above. With a second run of this script, it just takes 8 seconds. This is going to be at least two different points of slowness. One is the directory that must be read. Two is simply opening 145400 files and reading the mail header from each of them is going to take a while. Opening many files will have a quantifiable time. Try this experiment. Cache the directory and the inodes without opening the file. Then run your perl script to read the mail headers. That should # echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches # ls -lR Mail/oldarc/cur /dev/null Then run your perl script: $ time yourperlscript Mail/oldarc/cur $ time yourperlscript Mail/oldarc/cur Divide 145400 files by the time in seconds to run the first uncached run and you should be able to quantify the files per second performance to open and read the mail headers from those files uncached. Then repeat and determine the cached performance time. That is a lot of files! I expect it would take a while. But the second run cached should be much better. As long as you have enough file system buffer cache to hold those blocks in memory. It would also be interesting to convert the Maildir with 145400 files to a compressed mbox format single file. (That will convert ^From lines if that is a concern for you.) I expect that if you were to modify your perl script program to read the compressed mbox file and do the same task that it might be faster! It would remove the overhead time needed to open each of those 145400 files. It all depends upon the distribution of data size of the body of the messages since then it would need to read and skip the message bodies. But let's say that all of the bodies were small less than 50k then I expect that converging them to a single mbox file would make them much faster than the individual files. Also compressing the file reduces the amount of I/O needed to pull the data into memory. With today's fast cpus decompression is faster than disk I/O and reading a compressed file and decompressing it is usually faster in my experience. Every case is individually different however. If you run that experiment I would be interested in knowning the result. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Need help with a broken Jessie/Xfce4 desktop box
I was trying to get sound working again. It last worked many wks ago, but I hardly ever use it. So I don't know when it became broken (again). Current problem is that aptitude feels that it needs to install a libuuid-perl in order to install linux-base (which somehow became uninstalled, or needs to be upgraded, I can't tell which) but libuuid-perl needs a different kernel than I am currently running and aptitude advises not replacing the running kernel. And doesn't suggest any alternative. I think I am running kernel 3.16.0-4-686-pae That is the number string on both initrd.img and vmlinuz. How can I break this deadlock? Until very recently, I have been following all the upgrades to Jessie on a daily basis, may not have in the last few days. The system rebooted in its current condition, with the deaklock still there. (How can a linux system boot without a working version of linux-base?) Thanks, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415233913.ga1...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Algo raro con las memorias flash y Debian 7 LXDE
El 23/3/15, Rodolfo Edgar sololistasdecor...@gmail.com escribió: El 21/3/15, c...@pinarte.cult.cu c...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió: Hola lista. En mi trabajo tengo instalado en las estaciones de trabajo Debian 7 LXDE. Todo muy bien, solo un detalle, por ejemplo, cuando un usuario inserta una memoria flash o pendrive por vez primera y luego la retira, al insertar otra memoria diferente, pues le sale la información de la primera que retiró o anterior. Ya muchos usuarios se me han quejado al respecto y la única solución que le he dado es decirles que cierren la sesión y la vuevan a abrir, de esta forma es que se puede visualizar la información de la última memoria insertada, y así sucesivamente. Esta forma que utilizo es algo tediosa. Pudiera alguien darme una ayuda al respecto. Muchas gracias Es fácil, que hagan clic derecho en la unidad que se visualiza en el escritorio y diganle desmontar, debe salir un mensaje que diga sehan desmontado o algo asi, yo tengo Debian 7.8 con xfce y no tengo problemas con memorias usb. Si hacen locorrecto y sigue apareciendo la etiqueta de la memoria anterior pues es problema del entorno xlde y no de Debian, salvo mejor parecer, saludos y suerte. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/62342.10.0.1.2.1426981817.squir...@www.correo.pinarte.cult.cu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadncxc1uqzrfzsfb+bycia6ugxsracwu1ksdjgjzjkcahtt...@mail.gmail.com El topic es algo viejo: yo uso Lxde en un barebone, va muy bien. Liviano y rápido. El problema radica en que cuando retiras una memoria, desmontándola, retirándola de forma segura, etc... cuando insertas una segunda memoria el sistema piensa que es la anterior y pcfman muestra un listado del contenido anterior, tal vez cacheado. Yo lo solucione creando entradas en fstab, para cada pendrive, en base a su UUID, con opción de montaje por parte del usuario y sin auto montaje al inicio. Creé unos directorios dentro de media para pen y unos link en el escritorio. Salud2s :) -- El cielo es para los dragones lo que el agua es para las ninfas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+924hqh-qkqx3jylcn8+9zdtjqe_hquve7rttujar+epzy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: variable globale d'environnement
On 04/15/2015 10:30 PM, humbert.olivie...@free.fr wrote:
Si j'ai bien compris la gestion des variables, elles sont héritées de
processus-parent en processus-enfant. Et si je suis juste dans ma
compréhension, le démarrage (à partir d'init) se passe ainsi :
Salut, ben long message, désolé j'ai survolé la fin!
Une petite histoire des variables dans sysvinit (Ça a du changer depuis!):
1 - Démarrage du système, le noyau rempli
HOME=/
TERM=linux
2 - Il lance init qui configure à son tour quelques variables:
PATH, RUNLEVEL, CONSOLE...
3 - init va voir dans /etc/inittab et en fonction du runlevel lance des
getty sur les tty. getty positionne TERM=linux et lance /bin/login en
général de tty1 à 6.
4 - login conserve l'environnement ou le détruit en conservant TERM et
met en place les variables {HOME,SHELL,TERM,PATH,MAIL,LOGNAME,USER}. Il
lance le shell lu dans /etc/passwd.
5 - le shell configure en interne des variables puis va en général lire
les fichiers profile (et éventuellement bashrc, tout ça dépend du shell
bien sûr) et en déduire les dernières variables à positionner.
4 bis - Le DM a ses propres mécanisme, c'est normal d'avoir des
variables différentes entre les tty et la session graphique.
- Il faut différencier les variables que tu vois dans un shell et les
variables du système. Je sais pas comment dire ça, quand tu lances un
shell, que tu sois en graphique ou tty, peu lui importe ce qui se
passait avant. C'est pas parce qu'une variable a telle valeur en lançant
env qu'un autre programme quelconque aura le même couple
valeur/variable (sauf s'il descends du shell en question).
- Le système lance des login shells de tty1 à tty6, en gros ils
lisent les fichiers profile (qui souvent sourcent les bashrc).
Par contre les shells lancés en graphique dans un émulateur de terminal
ne sont pas forcément des shells de connexion comme on traduit en
français. Ils ne lisent pas les profile en n'ont donc pas forcément
les mêmes variables.
Il semble que ton DM ne lance pas des login shells, si tu as besoin de
ta variable juste dans bash, le bashrc c'est cool.
Et si tu veux lancer un login shell, tu fais juste su -
nom_utilisateur. Y'a le tiret en plus.
Tu peux aussi t'amuser à te mettre en root et lancer login.
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Re: samba issue
I had a similar problem with samba (on jessie), but under slightly different conditions. Under full load the interface went down and it took several minutes to retrieve connectivity. I solved the problem by switching from the default driver (r8169) to the optional r8168 kernel module available through r8168-dkms. If you're also using a realtek nic compatible with the r8168 module that might be worth a try. Btw: I wouldn't specify any socket options unless you're having performance problems. Under normal conditions the parameters are automatically adjusted and manually tuning these parameters might worsen you're performance (see man smb.conf). Janis Am 15.04.2015 um 17:26 schrieb Pol Hallen: Hi folks :-) on debian stable I've a default samba file sharing config. Everything works perfectly (almost...). From linux and windows clients (wired and wifi too) when I (i.e. listen musics) often (one time every 4/5 minutes) networks collapse (for less one second) and later goes up. So I've an interrupt of broadcast. Using rsync or wget for transfer files from same server I don't have the problem (avoiding samba service). I've several network interfaces, this problem happens on all interfaces. samba logs (debug) nothing of good to audit, system log none, iptables is ok, I tried with minimal services (samba only), I try to modify tcp socks to tuning samba but nothing... also rebooting the server :-D now: what should I do? thanks for help! :-) Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552edaf4.4020...@hamme.info
Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
i'll second the use of openbox. i use it with fbpanel.
i too believe that gnome just pulls in way too much stuff.
the most inconvenient thing about not using gnome is not having a way
to handle USS mass storage devices.
I wrote a generic udev rule for that. Of course, there are also
mounting utilities that do the same thing. But I opted for the
light-on-resources rule instead.
The rule mounts and unmounts flash drives -- just plug and unplug -- and
cards (any type using an external card or multi-card reader. The
caveat is: you must plug the card in first, then plug the reader in.
Unmount by unplugging reader with the card still in it, then remove the
card. Doesn't work with internal multi-card readers. Probably not with
single internal readers either. For that you need a daemon like
udisks-daemon set to poll each card slot of the reader.
Thanks for posting that. I've got some homework to do!
I can understand the plugging in, and I think I understand the bit
about card readers: if I plug an SD card into my laptop slot, it
appears in a completely different manner from how it appears if the
SD card is in a USB converter (the card reader).
So in goes the USB plug, udev applies the rule and the device gets
mounted.
But I don't understand how unplugging works. My experience is that
with FAT-ish devices, if sync has been executed and time elapsed,
the only problem with pulling the plug (not having umounted) is that
the user may not be able to umount the mount point, but need to do it
as root. With extX filesystems, that wouldn't work at all because the
filesystem would still be marked as dirty.
Are you using some sort of safe-to-remove-hardware button like windows?
# remove the symbolic link to ~/{usb_folder}
ACTION==remove, RUN+=/bin/rm -f '/home/aardvark/Desktop/%E{dir_name}'
# clean up after device removal
ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/umount -l
'/media/%E{dir_name}', RUN+=/bin/rmdir '/media/%E{dir_name}'
I need to figure out precisely what terms like detach, clean up
and busy mean in man umount -l.
Cheers,
David.
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Re: wheezy drive recognition?
On Wednesday 15 April 2015 13:37:43 Gene Heskett wrote: [...] I think I'll burn that cd of the seagate dos utils and see what it says, which will entail a power down reboot if I put it on the spare cables, or something along those lines that will force me to do a P.D. reboot. Uptime is currently about 12 days. And we have at least 10 days before Jessie is declared, so I haven't been in a life or death hurry. Since I woke up this morning, which is a good sign at my age, I'll put that off a few hours. ;-) I finally found enough of a round tuit to burn the cd and try it. Seatools found and tested all 3 drives, no hits no runs no errors. But I am now smarter on two fronts. 1. DONT leave your cell phone plugged in when rebooting, you get drive C has no boot capability messages from the bios, while I am shaking my head and muttering that famous 3 letter acronym. So I wasted several hours letting it go thru one cycle of memtest, then doing a bios reset re-putz with some on the options before in dawned on me my tracfone is still plugged in AND a POS. Turned off, it still shows up as a 50 megabyte removeable disk! Unforgivable idiocy. 2. that solved rebooted, with one of the 2T's in the sdb slot, gparted said it had NO partition table! So I expect the 2nd one has no partition table on it either. So I partitioned and labeled it half half as /home and /opt. Reboot, lshw and blkid are now happy as clams. So, progress from the WV version of Lake Woebegone. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504152354.52177.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Algo raro con las memorias flash y Debian 7 LXDE
El 21/03/15 a las 16:50, c...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió: Hola lista. En mi trabajo tengo instalado en las estaciones de trabajo Debian 7 LXDE. Todo muy bien, solo un detalle, por ejemplo, cuando un usuario inserta una memoria flash o pendrive por vez primera y luego la retira, al insertar otra memoria diferente, pues le sale la información de la primera que retiró o anterior. Ya muchos usuarios se me han quejado al respecto y la única solución que le he dado es decirles que cierren la sesión y la vuevan a abrir, de esta forma es que se puede visualizar la información de la última memoria insertada, y así sucesivamente. Esta forma que utilizo es algo tediosa. Pudiera alguien darme una ayuda al respecto. Muchas gracias tienes que expulsarla correctamente : en NAUTILUS click derecho sobre la memoria y DESMONTAR en algunas versiones dice EXPULSAR DE MODO SEGURO en KDE es igual, pero desde la bandeja del sistema saludos -- ** software libre no significa gratis: richard m. stallman http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista#resumen http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista/Gmail http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552f44eb.7060...@gmail.com
Re: Book questions
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 11:30:04 PM UTC+5:30, David Christensen wrote: On 04/14/2015 11:11 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: I find the Friedman books better. http://www.amazon.com/Scheme-Art-Programming-George-Springer/dp/0262192888 http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Programming-Languages-Daniel-Friedman/dp/0262062798 http://www.amazon.com/The-Seasoned-Schemer-Daniel-Friedman/dp/026256100X http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/reasoned-schemer I personally used and liked and taugh using the 1st 2. Others are famous but I am not familiar MIT Press list here but misses my favorites: http://mitpress.mit.edu/authors/daniel-p-friedman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ed1df5f0-5907-4e83-8a09-cf834a27b...@googlegroups.com
Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?
Quoting August Karlstrom (fusionf...@gmail.com): On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared to simply starting a ConsoleKit session? exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm instead of exec your-wm None really, except to keep system overhead as small as possible. [...] I wanted the smallest, lightest install of Wheezy 64-bit I could get. I started with a basic terminal system and added the rest piece by piece. That's what I do too. I have a script that installs a few packages and configurations on top of a basic Debian server installation. So, I just don't run (or have installed) a lot of support stuff that normal desktop systems do. I even boot to a terminal where I login, then manually start X and Openbox with startx. I agree, for me a display manager is one of those unnecessary features. Since I almost always want to use a GUI, however, my ~/.profile ends with #start an X session when logging in on the first virtual console if [ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ] [ -z $DISPLAY ]; then exec startx ~/.xsession-errors 21 fi Writing my own udev rules was in keeping with that minimalism. I tried to do that myselft but I never got it working. That's why I had to resort to ck-launch-session. I, too, boot to a VC and run startx whereupon .xsession runs fvwm and opens a bunch of xterms (using xtoolwait from squeeze to serialise them). But I don't understand what starting a ConsoleKit session does. Will I see something different on the screen? I looked at http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5220/what-are-consolekit-and-policykit-how-do-they-work but don't understand it. If several users are logged in, does each user run on the same Xserver? Do their sessions keep running while one user is actively using their own session? What are the resource implications? This little laptop is already running much more slowly with jessie/systemd. That page has a link to http://www.freedesktop.org/software/ConsoleKit/doc/ConsoleKit.html which is one of those pages that looks as if it's written for a computer science course. The first page also says that ConsoleKit has been largely replaced by systemd-logind. Well, I have that and it appears to be running: $ dpkg -S systemd-logind systemd: /usr/share/man/man8/systemd-logind.8.gz systemd: /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/systemd-logind.service systemd: /lib/systemd/systemd-logind systemd: /lib/systemd/system/systemd-logind.service systemd: /lib/systemd/systemd-logind-launch systemd: /usr/share/man/man8/systemd-logind.service.8.gz $ loginctl list-seats | tee SEAT seat0 1 seats listed. $ man systemd-logind points me to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/ which makes me none the wiser. The Uses section assumes I am writing system software, and the very last sentence on the page implies I'm running a DM. Neither of these is true. So when you say you resorted to simply starting a ck-launch-session, how did that make up for not being able to get udev rules to work? Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150416043704.gb4...@alum.home
vsftpd Chinese garbled
Is there anyone noticing Chinese garbled in vsftpd package ? I use the default configure after installing vsftpd by apt-get. But when I use filezilla to upload / download things , it will occur Chinese garbled! mudongliang -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu437-smtp52ac2dce0b4492f1eaeb0dbc...@phx.gbl
Re: samba issue
/etc/samba/smb.conf: socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 I've: socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 I tried change 8192 values and also comments socket options but same problem... thanks for help -- Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552ed30e.1080...@fuckaround.org
Re: Subject: network-console installation and ssh keys
On 2015-04-15, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20150414_2134+, Liam O'Toole wrote: SNIP Put the following in ~/.ssh/config: Host desk UserKnownHostsFile /dev/null StrictHostKeyChecking no See the man page of ssh_config for details. I think this will silence the warning forever, or at least until you think to delete those lines from your ~/.ssh/config. SNIP To overcome that concern, you could do: Host desk_temporary HostName desk UserKnownHostsFile /dev/null StrictHostKeyChecking no -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmitlc3.5hq.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
compilation openvpn version dev
bonjour à tous, pour tester une option qui n'est que dans la version dev d'openvpn à ce jour, je cherche a compilé celui-ci depuis les sources sur ma debian. Seule problème, je n'est pas le fichier ./configure mais, j'ai le configure.ac. en cherchant sur le net, j'ai trouvé uniquement ./configure make make install. il y a t'il une autre façon de compilé ce genre d'application ou c'est un oubli coté dev ? jerem -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e0373.4020...@prego-network.net
[solved] Re: Error message on console at logging in
Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com writes: Hi all. With Debian 8: on my Acer netbook, when logging in, if I rotate the screen, many undesired lines appear on the console complaining: usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 . No usb device is inserted in the machine, but the error message disturbs the logging in. With previous Debian versions, such kernel messages were avoided simply appending to /etc/init.d/rc.local the line: dmesg -n 1 , but now this does not help any more. Apparently, the message does not seem to correspond to any effective problem, so I wish I could prevent it to appear. It seems to be solved appending to the file /etc/init.d/rc.local the following stuff: dmesg -n 1 ; and, besides, in /etc/sysctl.conf uncommenting the following line: kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3 Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87618xsxkh@gmail.com
Re: Sharing LVM storage
Hi. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 08:41:07AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: I just want to try it out to see how it works, it's not something I need by any stretch of the imagination, so there's a limit to how far down that rabbit-hole I want to go. As long as you don't forget to run lvscan on partner node after doing basically anything with LV on main node - you should be OK. But just to be on the safe side - don't export PV via iSCSI. Export LVs. May I ask why, so I don't mess anything up? I was thinking of exporting maybe my VM VG, so that all LV's for VM's were available to both machines. Or just the device itself. That's the main reason. Creating PV-via-iSCSI configuration from the scratch is simple. It's maintaining it (or worse - changing it) is complex. For example, imagine the need to migrate all LVs from one PV to another. Without downtime, of course. Is it doable - yes. Is it simple - no. Besides, there's a *small* matter of backups, and in cases such as this I prefer straightforward approach. I.e. there's storage host, and there are VM hosts. Storage host provides LVs as /dev/sd* devices to VM hosts *and* manages backups. VM hosts merely do their VM thing. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415065509.GA17616@x101h
Re: Sharing LVM storage
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 18:14:31 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:01:02PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: I'm using LVM as storage for virtual machines, and would like to share a PV between two machines with iSCSI to be able to migrate the VM's. I did the thing some time ago. It worked, although I used ietd and not today's tgtd. The main reason was - ietd had configuration file, tdtd had not (as in 'our daemon does not need config at all, use tdtadm'). I've already set up iSCSI, and went with ietd, too. To be fair, I didn't know about tgtd :) Wikipedia says this: The LVM will also work in a shared-storage cluster (where disks holding the PVs are shared between multiple host computers), but requires an additional daemon to propagate state changes between cluster nodes. But nothing else. Is the clvm (with dependencies) package everything I need to do this? Or would I need to mess with all sorts of clustering stuff to get that working? Not strictly as the main role of clvm is to guarantee that one LV will always be used by one node. Secondary role of clvm is to handle LV addition and removal by principle of least surprise. I.e. lvcreate on node one should add the same LV on node two. That sounds reasonable. I just want to try it out to see how it works, it's not something I need by any stretch of the imagination, so there's a limit to how far down that rabbit-hole I want to go. As long as you don't forget to run lvscan on partner node after doing basically anything with LV on main node - you should be OK. But just to be on the safe side - don't export PV via iSCSI. Export LVs. May I ask why, so I don't mess anything up? I was thinking of exporting maybe my VM VG, so that all LV's for VM's were available to both machines. Or just the device itself. Thank you for the advice! Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgp6KFb6sdCkK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: Petter Adsen wrote: Can someone please enlighten me as to why the entry for this directory is so large, even though it is empty? Since it's apparently obvious to everyone else, I would very much like to know :) snipped If a directory became full it was easy to extend it by writing the array longer. But if an early entry in the array was deleted the system would zero it out rather than move each and every entry in the file system down a slot. (I always wondered why they didn't simply take the *last* entry and move it down to the deleted entry and simply keep the array always compacted. I wonder. But they didn't do it that way.) Moving entries around breaks ongoing readdir operations. If a readdir has gone past the file being removed, and you moved the last entry there, the entry being moved would be missed, despite *it* not being the entry added or removed. snipped -- regards, kushal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87h9shlvve@carbon.locationd.net.
Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:35:12 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772:~$ grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [26.440] (II) Module intel: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.440] compiled for 1.15.1, module version = 2.99.910 [26.440] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.449] (II) Module nouveau: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.449] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 1.0.10 [26.449] Module class: X.Org Video Driver OK, so you have both an Intel and an nVidia GPU. snip Now, I do not know much about hardware, in this context, but it appears to me that the nVidia graphics thing should be being used, but is not being used by either Ubuntu or Debian (neither has drivers for it?), and Ubuntu has a more comprehensive driver set (?) for the Intel Haswell graphics controller (is/should the nVidia graphics thing, be subordinate to / driven by the Intel Haswell graphics controller?), part of which, is missing from Debian 7 (as installed and configured)?. I am not exactly sure how you configure two GPUs from two different vendors, as I haven't done that myself, but I do know this: many machines has a setting in the BIOS (or, I would assume, UEFI) that lets you select to use either on-board or discrete graphics. You may want to check that. Also, there are proprietary drivers available for nVidia cards. Those drivers have a GUI for configuring them, which you might find easier to use. I found this link, that might help you: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers It doesn't appear that these instructions use the latest available drivers at the time, but those that have been tested with your version of Debian, and that is probably a good thing. If you, for some reason, want the latest drivers, you can do a search for nvidia linux drivers, and I am sure you will find them easily enough. Be adviced, though, that messing too much with graphics drivers can quite thoroughly mess up your X configuration, so you might want recent backups :) I hope this is of some help to you. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgprFZ2qFwGGP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:53:55 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The same WM that LXDE uses. A little more work, but worth it. Thanks. I'm trying it. In the web browser, I open a new tab with C-t, but don't know how to do that in the terminal emulator. The usual `C-shift-t' does not work. Depends on which terminal emulator you're using. I use xterm, and it doesn't support tabbed windows -- as far as I can tell. Never bothered to check. But that's okay. I prefer multiple terminals instead of a single one with multiple tabs. Or, to get something in between, use screen :) Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpio24ZABzUv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sharing LVM storage
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 09:55:10 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 08:41:07AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: I just want to try it out to see how it works, it's not something I need by any stretch of the imagination, so there's a limit to how far down that rabbit-hole I want to go. As long as you don't forget to run lvscan on partner node after doing basically anything with LV on main node - you should be OK. But just to be on the safe side - don't export PV via iSCSI. Export LVs. May I ask why, so I don't mess anything up? I was thinking of exporting maybe my VM VG, so that all LV's for VM's were available to both machines. Or just the device itself. That's the main reason. Creating PV-via-iSCSI configuration from the scratch is simple. It's maintaining it (or worse - changing it) is complex. For example, imagine the need to migrate all LVs from one PV to another. Without downtime, of course. Is it doable - yes. Is it simple - no. In my setting, that is quite simply not going to ever happen. I have a separate disk with one PV on it, devoted entirely to VM's. But I do see your point, if I ever were to use it in a production system. Right now, downtime only means that one of my personal toys is broken :) Besides, there's a *small* matter of backups, and in cases such as :) this I prefer straightforward approach. I.e. there's storage host, and there are VM hosts. Storage host provides LVs as /dev/sd* devices to VM hosts *and* manages backups. VM hosts merely do their VM thing. I see, thank you. Well, that sort of fits in with my setup, too, except that the VM disk is not in the storage server, it is in the fastest machine I have, with the most cores available to run VMs. It's just a toy project, anyhow, but it's best to learn good practices. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpNFuHuRR3LL.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: debian 8
On 13/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:23:54 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: 2. As indicated in earlier posts, the two computers to which I have referred; the Acer V3-772G and the Acer E5-521-238Q (I think that is the model number of the newer one - it is in my previous posts), both have the poor quality Insyde20 (?) (Inshite20) (I think it is) Setup Utility, that controls whether the computer boots into UEFI or BIOS, and forces Secure Boot when the computer boots into UEFI. So the The problem is really caused by halfbaked IOS/UEFI/EC firmware sounds quite credible. Acer needs to provide a decent Setup Utility with its computers. The Setup Utitility (the Inshite20 one) appears to be third party, and, not from the motherboards manufacturer(s), but, I could be wrong in that. They very often are. Unfortunately, the newer computer being a computer less than ten years old, did not come with a printed manual, and I can not easily remove the battery, so I will need to make a warranty claim on it - it is, I think, less than a month old, or, at most, less than three months old. I do not know if this will solve your problem, but I found a manual for what I believe is your machine on Acer's website, and put it on my Dropbox account for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/09lfo01vnl9z9d7/UM_asE5-571_531_551_521_511_EN_Win8.1_v2.pdf?dl=0 Page 49 describes how to remove the battery pack, so with that guide in hand you can try to do it yourself without handing it in for a two week wait. I can't imagine that doing this would in any way affect your warranty. Good luck. Petter The whole thing (getting the E5-521-238Q working again) ended up being a witchcraft and entrails kind of thing. 1. A suitable tool for applying to the battery latch hole, is something like a paper clip or a pin or something, so, for safety, I used the blunt end of a straight sewing needle (where is a paper clip, when one is needed?). 2. Step one - make sure computer is disconnected from power supply. 3. Step 2 - insert appropiate tool into battery release hole, five times. 4. Step 3 - use appropriate tool to slide battery release latch sideways, and remove battery. 5. Step 4 - press power button five times. 6. Step 5 - re-insert batter. 7. Step 6 - connect to power supply. 8. Step 7 - press power button. System is restored, as is session that existed when crash occurred. Probaby best not done when dancing widdershins around a bonfire while surrounded by twelve naked virgins of the user's preferred gender (too many distractions). Oh, and I found the purchase receipt for the computer - purchased on 02 April - did not last long, before first problem that required warranty assistance. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8m2teclhcvc7zoosgy3nmeuufdrv-rbuwmoatb2laz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Book questions
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 9:20:06 PM UTC+5:30, David Christensen wrote: I mentioned SICP before. The concepts are great, but the Scheme programming language and REPL environment aren't my favorite. If you're serious about computer science and computer programming, read it first and then choose what's next: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html I guess I am the diagonally opposite corner: personally I enjoyed scheme (along with APL) more than any other language; SICP not so much However if the content of SICP calls you and not scheme the medium, here's SICP in python http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs61a/sp12/book/ Well I suppose I am coming across as a python fanboy.. anyways... that's SICP in python -- if that calls you. Why SICP-the-book doesn't get SICP-the-contents: http://blog.languager.org/2013/08/applying-si-on-sicp.html I find the Friedman books better. On a more tangential note here are the Tears of Donald Knuth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAXdDEQveKw And a historian commenting on the same: http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/1/181633-the-tears-of-donald-knuth/fulltext Should give a picture of how CS has shifted in ½ a century -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/668cd205-865e-4507-90c1-7b1c5d27a...@googlegroups.com
Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors
On 15/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/04/2015, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. The best thing would be to look at the log file for X (on Squeeze LTS that is to be found at the following location: '/var/log/Xorg.0.log') in order to know which driver you're using (amongst other things--errors, warnings, etc.). For the driver the following grep ditty seems to work fine: curty@einstein:~$ grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) Module fglrx: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc. compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.95.3 Module class: X.Org Video Driver Thank you for that. I have just ran it on this (Dell Inspire) desktop system running Debian 6, to check it, and got :~$ grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) Module nouveau: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.0.15 Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- (II) Module nv: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.1.17 Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- (II) Module vesa: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.3.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver and this system shows :~$ lspci | grep -i vga 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310] (rev a2) so I intend to run those two commands in each of the Ubuntu and Debian installations on the Acer V3-772G system, tomorrow. On the Acer V3-772G, for Ubuntu, I have bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772:~$ grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [26.440] (II) Module intel: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.440] compiled for 1.15.1, module version = 2.99.910 [26.440] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.449] (II) Module nouveau: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.449] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 1.0.10 [26.449] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.449] (II) Module modesetting: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.449] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 0.8.1 [26.449] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.450] (II) Module fbdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.450] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 0.4.4 [26.450] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.450] (II) Module vesa: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.450] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 2.3.3 [26.450] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.450] (II) Module intel: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.450] compiled for 1.15.1, module version = 2.99.910 [26.450] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.450] (II) Module nouveau: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.450] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 1.0.10 [26.450] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.451] (II) Module modesetting: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.451] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 0.8.1 [26.451] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.451] (II) Module fbdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.451] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 0.4.4 [26.451] Module class: X.Org Video Driver -- [26.451] (II) Module vesa: vendor=X.Org Foundation [26.451] compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 2.3.3 [26.451] Module class: X.Org Video Driver and bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772:~$ lspci | grep -i vga 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) and in the ouput from sudo lshw, is *-pci description: Host bridge product: Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 100 bus info: pci@:00:00.0 version: 06 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-pci:0 description: PCI bridge product: Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor PCI Express x16 Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1 bus info: pci@:00:01.0 version: 06 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci pm msi pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:40 ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:d200-d2ff ioport:a000(size=536870912) *-display description: 3D controller product: GK107M [GeForce GT 750M] vendor: NVIDIA Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz
Flash update
Hi there The most recent version is 11,2,202,457. For i386 that's: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.457/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz Regards, Rob -- Comet: A very large bouncy castle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mgl7d8$k7e$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Has the rescatux and supergrubdisk project been terminated
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:16:49 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: If you really need Rescatux, I have an image of v0.32b3. The timestamp on it says 2014-12-21. Let me know if you need it. What I actually want it for, is the functionality to reset passwords on both Debian 5 and MS Win8. Does what you have, have that functionality? I haven't used it, so I really would not know for sure, but I believe it should be able to reset passwords on Linux, at least. If you really need to know, I guess I can spin it up in a VM, but it might take me a little bit of time. For Windows, you might need something called Hiren's Boot CD, which I am pretty sure has this functionality. At least, I know that it can do it for Win7. You will find it at hiren.info. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpxUIbbdZT7H.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Has the rescatux and supergrubdisk project been terminated
Am Mittwoch, 15. April 2015, 10:28:25 schrieb Petter Adsen: On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:16:49 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: If you really need Rescatux, I have an image of v0.32b3. The timestamp on it says 2014-12-21. Let me know if you need it. What I actually want it for, is the functionality to reset passwords on both Debian 5 and MS Win8. Does what you have, have that functionality? You might want to have a look at Trity Rescue Kit (TRK) as an alternative. Maybe it is that, what you are looking for. Good luck! Hans signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Can't isntall Debian on UEFI system
Hi all, I am trying to install live image from USB stick, but my comp's BIOS doesn't see the drive. I tried to dd .iso to stick, I tried to copy it, still, BIOS doesn't see it. I also don't see any efi folders on the stick when I look at it with a file manager. Any ideas? Thanks -- German gentger...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415052249.01c1bf9e3c5aed690c414...@gmail.com
Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !
On 2015-04-14 21:00:32 +0200, maderios wrote: Ton lien concerne Systemctl et non le noyau lui-même. Systemd ne change rien concernant la verbosité du noyau lors du boot. Avec systemd, je n'ai constaté aucun changement par rapport à Sysvinit. Il n'y a pas que le noyau qui affiche des messages, mais aussi les services qui sont lancés. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415092735.ga14...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: Has the rescatux and supergrubdisk project been terminated
Bret Busby wrote: On 07/02/2015, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: snip You could give a try to Grub Rescue : http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ Good luck ! Hello. I have just tried to find the Rescatux web site, to try to download a copy, and I found, at http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ Website disabled also at http://rescatux.org which redirects to http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ Does anyone know what is happening with the supergruubdisk thing and rescatux? Have they been terminated? Interestingly, a subdomain of rescatux.org; http://wiki.rescatux.org/wiki/Main_Page still appears to be functional. Rescatux 0.30.2 - Live CD (32-bit) @2.95 + shipping appears to be in stock at https://www.osdisc.com/products/linux/rescue/rescatux-0302-live-cd-pc.html As I'm on dial-up, I find them quite convenient. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e2ee6.30...@cloud85.net
Re: Swap?
Michael Kjörling wrote: Rolf Edlund skrev: Sen är det vad jag läst inte bra, att att skriva mycket till en SSD. Att SSDer inte klarar av att användas är *en myt* med dagens modeller. Precis, det är vid det här laget rätt många år sedan SSD var begränsade av antalet skrivningar. Det är intressant hur hårt denna historiska parantes lyckas hålla sig vid liv. Om du fortfarande är skeptisk, läs the ssd endurance experiment: The first lesson came quickly. All of the drives surpassed their official endurance specifications by writing hundreds of terabytes without issue. Delivering on the manufacturer-guaranteed write tolerance wouldn't normally be cause for celebration, but the scale makes this achievement important. Most PC users, myself included, write no more than a few terabytes per year. Even 100TB is far more endurance than the typical consumer needs. http://techreport.com/review/24841/introducing-the-ssd-endurance-experiment http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead Debian-wiki har för övrigt en mycket bra sammanfattning om hur man ska resonera om det här med storlek på swap, se rubriken: Things to consider... https://wiki.debian.org/Swap -- Fredrik Jonson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmis4jt.ulj.fred...@biggles.jonson.org
Re: Has the rescatux and supergrubdisk project been terminated
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 03:37:49 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/2015, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: snip You could give a try to Grub Rescue : http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ Good luck ! Hello. I have just tried to find the Rescatux web site, to try to download a copy, and I found, at http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ Website disabled also at http://rescatux.org which redirects to http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ Does anyone know what is happening with the supergruubdisk thing and rescatux? Have they been terminated? Interestingly, a subdomain of rescatux.org; http://wiki.rescatux.org/wiki/Main_Page still appears to be functional. I don't really know anything about it, but there is a similar project called Boot-Repair. It is, however, not a boot disk, but a tool to be run within the OS. You can find it at: http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ There is a sort of boot disk version of it, but I think it's just an Ubuntu image with the application on it. If you really need Rescatux, I have an image of v0.32b3. The timestamp on it says 2014-12-21. Let me know if you need it. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpE2FHfP1A_Y.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: compilation openvpn version dev
Prego Jérémy a écrit : bonjour à tous, Bonjour, pour tester une option qui n'est que dans la version dev d'openvpn à ce jour, je cherche a compilé celui-ci depuis les sources sur ma debian. Seule problème, je n'est pas le fichier ./configure mais, j'ai le configure.ac. en cherchant sur le net, j'ai trouvé uniquement ./configure make make install. il y a t'il une autre façon de compilé ce genre d'application ou c'est un oubli coté dev ? Un coup d'autoconf/automake peut-être ? Le fichier configure.in ou configure.ac est un script permettant de générer le configure. De deux choses l'une. Soit tu as un script autogen.sh qui s'occupe de toute la configuration, soit il faut utiliser directement autoconf puis automake pour générer les scripts de compilation. Cordialement, JKB -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e19b7.7050...@systella.fr
Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?
On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote: What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared to simply starting a ConsoleKit session? exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm instead of exec your-wm None really, except to keep system overhead as small as possible. [...] I wanted the smallest, lightest install of Wheezy 64-bit I could get. I started with a basic terminal system and added the rest piece by piece. That's what I do too. I have a script that installs a few packages and configurations on top of a basic Debian server installation. So, I just don't run (or have installed) a lot of support stuff that normal desktop systems do. I even boot to a terminal where I login, then manually start X and Openbox with startx. I agree, for me a display manager is one of those unnecessary features. Since I almost always want to use a GUI, however, my ~/.profile ends with #start an X session when logging in on the first virtual console if [ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ] [ -z $DISPLAY ]; then exec startx ~/.xsession-errors 21 fi Writing my own udev rules was in keeping with that minimalism. I tried to do that myselft but I never got it working. That's why I had to resort to ck-launch-session. -- August -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mgl7j1$utj$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Debain Jessie two dictionary software
Le 15/04/2015 11:05, mudongliang a écrit : Can someone tell me why the newest Jessie version has two basic dictionary software : goldendict and gnome dictionary? Can maintainers delete one ? mudongliang Why should they ? gnome dictionary is a gnome app, and goldendict a qt one. Gnome user do not necessarily want a qt non-gnome dictionary, and similarly non gnome users do not necessarily want an application dependending on gnome libs and component. Strength of free system is about giving choice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e2acc.5080...@rail.eu.org
Re: [wheezy] ocs plugin pour glpi
bonjour, la solution a été une installation par les sources. ça fonctionne. Merci. Le 11 avril 2015 03:12, Bernard Schoenacker bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit : Le Fri, 10 Apr 2015 22:47:36 +0200, Patrice Go patgsios...@gmail.com a écrit : bonjour, je n'ai rien trouvé à ce sujet sur le net. après une installation de glpi et ocsinventory je veux installer le plugin ocs pour glpi, mais il n'y a pas de version ocs plugin pour la version glpi (0.83.*). il y a le plugin ocs pour la version glpi 0.84.*, mais glpi en version 0.84 est en jessie. la version plugin ocs pour glpi 0.84 n'est évidemment pas reconnue par la version glpi 0.83. y a t il moyen de faire cohabiter un (ou plusieurs) logiciel en jessie sur un systeme en wheezy ? merci. pat G bonjour, prière de passer en jessie du fait de sa sortie le 25 avril, ça fera un travail de moins à faire https://packages.qa.debian.org/f/fusioninventory-for-glpi.html slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150411031206.68ae3fea.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !
On 2015-04-15 11:54:37 +0200, maderios wrote: On 04/15/2015 11:27 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-14 21:00:32 +0200, maderios wrote: Ton lien concerne Systemctl et non le noyau lui-même. Systemd ne change rien concernant la verbosité du noyau lors du boot. Avec systemd, je n'ai constaté aucun changement par rapport à Sysvinit. Il n'y a pas que le noyau qui affiche des messages, mais aussi les services qui sont lancés. Sauf erreur de ma part, le noyau affiche les messages concernant les services. Non, ce n'est pas le noyau, mais simplement la sortie et l'erreur standard des scripts d'init, qui sont redirigées sur la console avec une copie éventuelle dans /var/log/boot. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415102527.gb14...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: Jessie: No VGA signal after gdm3 login
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 18:10:11 -0400 Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:22:24PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:50:45 +0200 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:42:03 -0400 Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info wrote: Just returned from vacation, booted up. After gdm3 login screen goes blank, then No VGA Signal Installed xdm. Same result Ran apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade Repeated xdm login. Same result Before vacation login opened Gnome and I ran several programs with no problems. Even now consoles F1 through F6 work normally and I can run command line programs. What could have happened? Found nothing about this in April lists.debian.org archives. Can you tell us what is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors? I can't tell you what might have happened, though, at least not without starting with the contents of those two files. Petter You really should send your reply to the list, not to me personally, so that more people can see it, and potentially help you. I agree and this reply is to the list. I only replied directly to you because last week I received a sharp rebuke from an individual who had responded to one of my posts. He claimed it is very bad manners to post his responce - it was a very helpful one which I acknowledged - to the list when he had responded from his personal address. I didn't mean to sound harsh, and I apologize if I did, I was in a hurry, and just wanted to forward your message to the list so that more people could see the message and potentially help you. Strictly speaking, I shouldn't have done that, as it's considered quite impolite to forward personal mail to a list, but since you didn't actually say much except including the log files, I concluded that no harm would be done. What is the protocol? In reponding should I hit r or L? Obviously a continuing string of discussion posted to the list should be advantageous to all. When you are responding to something in a list thread, send your reply to the list. That's considered the right thing. It is generally frowned upon to reply in private, although there are occasions where it is appropriate to do so. In this case, you should probably have sent your reply to the list instead of to me, partly because you want as many people as possible to get a look at the logs to see if there is anything wrong there. Also, if you discuss something with someone off-list, you should always get their consent to forward something they wrote to a list. I didn't do that with your message, and for that I apologize. Does that explain things to you? Now, to your original question: I must admit I haven't had the time to take a good look at your logs, although nothing jumped out at me. I will take a closer look at them, hopefully someone else with more experience can also do so. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgplY8RiIQgAV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Has the rescatux and supergrubdisk project been terminated
On 15/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 03:37:49 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/02/2015, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: snip You could give a try to Grub Rescue : http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ Good luck ! Hello. I have just tried to find the Rescatux web site, to try to download a copy, and I found, at http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ Website disabled also at http://rescatux.org which redirects to http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ Does anyone know what is happening with the supergruubdisk thing and rescatux? Have they been terminated? Interestingly, a subdomain of rescatux.org; http://wiki.rescatux.org/wiki/Main_Page still appears to be functional. I don't really know anything about it, but there is a similar project called Boot-Repair. It is, however, not a boot disk, but a tool to be run within the OS. You can find it at: http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ There is a sort of boot disk version of it, but I think it's just an Ubuntu image with the application on it. If you really need Rescatux, I have an image of v0.32b3. The timestamp on it says 2014-12-21. Let me know if you need it. What I actually want it for, is the functionality to reset passwords on both Debian 5 and MS Win8. Does what you have, have that functionality? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8pdkbcalsk1gvkrx+wvxleeiqujpgm4vpux9pmcq0t...@mail.gmail.com
Debain Jessie two dictionary software
Can someone tell me why the newest Jessie version has two basic dictionary software : goldendict and gnome dictionary? Can maintainers delete one ? mudongliang -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu437-smtp38a41e46019715cf7b615bc...@phx.gbl
Re: Debain Jessie two dictionary software
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 05:05:27PM +0800, mudongliang wrote: Can someone tell me why the newest Jessie version has two basic dictionary software : goldendict and gnome dictionary? Can maintainers delete one ? In a word, choice. Debian is not here to dictate to users you must use this program. Everything can be replaced. Don't like the web browser? There are a handful (IceWeasel, Chromium, Lynx) to choose from. Don't like the init system? SystemV is still supported. Don't like Linux? Well, you can run Debian on kFreeBSD, too! Now, it maybe that not all of those options are are well-tested or as well-maintained as the others. Packages are added to Debian at the whim of maintainers. The most popular packages are maintained by teams of people to ensure the package works well for everyone. But the less popular packages might be maintained by someone who only gets time to work on it after coming home from their main job, or on an occasional weekend when they're not focussed on their family. If a package accumulates too many bug reports, and receives too little maintenance, then yes, the maintainers can remove the package. They can remove packages for other reasons, too, such as finding that distributing it is contrary to its license. However, if the reason is simply because you don't like one of the packages, then no, it is unlikely that the maintainers will remove it. mudongliang -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu437-smtp38a41e46019715cf7b615bc...@phx.gbl signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow
On 2015-04-15 12:29:49 +0530, Kushal Kumaran wrote: Moving entries around breaks ongoing readdir operations. If a readdir has gone past the file being removed, and you moved the last entry there, the entry being moved would be missed, despite *it* not being the entry added or removed. Indeed. I have an alternative proposition: Add a counter to each block in order to count the non-free entries. When the counter reaches 0, the block can be removed from the directory. This would allow the directory to shrink when all or almost all the files are removed. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415094216.ga14...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !
On 04/15/2015 11:27 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-04-14 21:00:32 +0200, maderios wrote: Ton lien concerne Systemctl et non le noyau lui-même. Systemd ne change rien concernant la verbosité du noyau lors du boot. Avec systemd, je n'ai constaté aucun changement par rapport à Sysvinit. Il n'y a pas que le noyau qui affiche des messages, mais aussi les services qui sont lancés. Sauf erreur de ma part, le noyau affiche les messages concernant les services. -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e355d.2010...@gmail.com
Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?
Em 12 de abril de 2015 13:49, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu: onde eu compro um laptop (i7, 8G RAM, 1T de HD) compatível com software livre numa loja de internet (americanas, extra, walmart, etc) aqui no brasil? No Brasil não conheço. No exterior eu recomendaria x200 [0] ou a Purism Librem [1] 0 - http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200/ 1 - http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/purism-librem-15-review Albino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAHAf8Wm-JrqWrQ2r6ddjzKm=czUKLeHa�+2f=lsn5myo9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OpenVPN doesn't restart after sleep
Hi Tony Sorry for the late reply, I suffered the same but I only just found out how to fix this: Add the following script to /lib/systemd/system-sleep (in case you are using systemd): $ cat /lib/systemd/system-sleep/openvpn.sh #!/bin/bash case $1 in post) /bin/systemctl restart openvpn ;; esac or the following script to /etc/pm/sleep.d in case you are still using sysv init: $ cat /etc/pm/sleep.d/99openvpn #!/bin/bash case $1 in resume|thaw) /etc/init.d/openvpn restart ;; esac Of coure in either case the script has to be executable (chmod +x) hope this helps regards lukn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mgli7i$de4$1...@ger.gmane.org
Dropbox nao sincroniza
Estou com um problema do dropbox e preciso resolver isso o mais rápido possível. Atualizei o debian e consequentemente o dropbox foi desisntalado. Reinstalei porém ele nao sincroniza com meu PC, quando rodo o comando ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd ele mostra a seguinte mesnsagem: /root/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado -- Manoel
